las teorías puden ser muchísimas teniendo en cuenta que Satriani compone y luego lanza en sus discos sus canciones así que si en algún trailer o algo así Satriani demostró que había hecho If I Could Fly, los Enanitos Verdes podrían haber plagiado o talvez no. Yo en lo personal prefiero a Satriani. En todo caso teoricen con Heaven de Warrant y el tema de los Babasónicos que dice: Cómanse a besos esta noche total nadie lo va a notar. Eso si que es un plagio maestros! Bueno... Saludos y suerte!
except Frances Limon follows different chord progression and music theory than Satriani's, where Satriani's and Coldplay's are identical. And if you want to take it that far, look up Cat Steven's 'foreigner's suite', where Enanitos probably stole their song. You can take this back to the Crusades for all I care, all melodies have been discovered and played at some point, it's just fact
hahaha xD lol, satriani just got owned by the intro riff and chorus, however, i'm a huge fan of satriani but this is just undeniable. btw is that my granny behind the drums?
jajajjajajja miren el video de satriani Satch boogie.... haber si el guitarrista de estos petardos toca mas que el mismisimo satriani , la estupides hasta donde llega
i kind of lost respect for satriani after he sued coldplay for a song he had stole already lol as a guitarist hes awsome but ehh...btw coldplay stole from satriani, satriani stole from enenitos verdes, and enanitos verdes stole from a 60s band i think or something like that
@3RRV no lo creo felipe el guitarrista de los enanitos es muy cabron no creo que satriani le gane ademas esta rola esta bien chida con los enanos le dieron su propio estilo asi que no hay comparacion enanitos son enanitos ayer ahora y siempre
@SocalDNM well i doubt it since they made this song years before joe´s version...im a follower of both but yeah coldplay stole from joe, and joe copied from enanitos verdes, and i think they took it from a 70s not well known band
Temaso! y la verdad es q es una melodia muy natural de surgir... es una secuencia muy simple... se le puede ocurrir a cualqueira cantando en la ducha. En fin, todo es posible... lo mejor de todo es q el violero toca con un sonido muy parecido al de Joe jejeje... Al fin y al cabo tampoco se dice q es plagiar un tipo de efecto o distorcion para la viola.
Me quedo con LEV. ke chingue su madre satriani, ni lo conozco ni me interesa y coldplay tambien puede chingar su madre, Radiohead rifa mas cabron ke esos weyes.
@chingonm1 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahh siiii ahuevo satriani es un pendejo aparte ese wey que importa solo le dio clases a steve vai que de seguro nisiquiera conoces tampoco y tambn al kirk hammet we pinche poser ponte a escuchar mas musica pinche reaggetonero de cagada
its bound to happen, notes are always tending to sound the same u got a chords and its scales...whatever maybe all three should get together and jam HARD!!
@systematicdesign una cosa es escribir la canción y otra es crear los compaces para grbar en estudio, asi q muy facilmente pudo haber tenido la letra y luego mezclarla con el ritmo plagiado!
a mi me parece q tal vez ninguno de los 2 halla plagiado a otro por lo menos no concientemente, solo coincidencia, pero si me paarece un descaro que satriani halla impuesto una demanda teniando rabo de paja!
entonses yo voii a copiar todas las rolas de enanitos verdes ii las voii a cambiar aa secuensias mayores ii ya van aser mias ii voii aser bn exitoso ii no sera una copia porqe yo uso secuensias mayores o como........ sii los enanos quisieran pudieran meter una demanda ii yaa son identicas ambas
el guitarrista de enanitos verdes es principalmente influenciado por satriani, en uno de sus conciertos lo escuche tocando el intro de summer song en el final de una de sus canciones, no es raro que haya hecho algo que tenga mucha similitud
Son como 4 notas, eso no se considera plagio, esto es una exageración, además, con todo el respeto que se merecen Enanitos Verdes y sin quitarles mérito, no creo que Satriani los conozca.
correcto segun la ley internacional maximo de 8 notas mas se considera plagio, ademas enanitos dijo q no hay plagio q ellos usan secuencis menores y satriani en secuencias mayores
this is why i don't approve of joe suing coldplay. With that three note beginning with that rhythem, there's not too much that leads out of it. So it was bound to happen. Songs are similar, get over it.
yaaa cada quien satriani sabe lo q ue hace, enanitos verdes sabe lo que hace, coldplay sabe lo que hace, si, yaa mientras a ustedes no les afecte muy sus rolas
no jodamos muchachos.....cuantas chances hay de q satriani haya escuchado a los enanitos verdes....?? todo bien, pero a un genio como satriani no le hace falta copiar medio riff de una banda (buenisima banda) con poca llegada al mercado anglo
Its MELODY you daft, lilliputians! The cord progression and notes can be used, and be exact to other songs, in a myriad of ways. Its the MELODY that is EXACTLY the same from Coldplay vs. Satrianis' song. The illegal alien group, and Cat Stevens (some muslim now) sound NOTHING like 'If I could Fly' and THAT is what makes the Coldplay theft opf Satrianis' song the issue...not the progression or notes per se. Study some music theology before you attempt to write a clarified, intellectual point.
@MrSinister99 Maybe you could open a dictionary before you go trying to make yourself sound smarter than you obviously aren't. Please, tell me about this "music theology" that you apparently know so much about. I'm intrigued! Idiot. It's music THEORY you retard, not theology!! LOL
the·ol·o·gy
noun,plural-gies.
1. the field of study and analysis that treats of God and of God's attributes and relations to the universe; study of divinethings or religious truth; divinity.
Ah, what the hell, i'll beat you up as well. Now, daft one, this is called a TYPO, I of course meant THEORY (any two bit azz wipe could have figured that out, too bad you're a one bit) Next, if you had even a smidgen of intellect, you'd know that "dictionary" is the idiots terminology for the book, it's actually called a LEXICON! Now, need I continue, and prove your momma should swallowed? Or would you like to match that half wit (Obama like) primate brain, with mine? Like perhaps music THEORY?
LOL!!! Your unnecessarily verbose, pretentious vocab. neither intimidates, nor impresses me (or anyone else for that matter, I'm sure). As much as I would love to pick apart and argue your rambling, pompous reply line by line, I won't. I have more important things to do than play "whose vocabulary has the bigger dick". Now get back to your game of Warcraft, or masturbating to Battlestar Galactica or whatever it was you were doing.
Oh yea, I almost forgot -- I'll be sure to contact Webster's and let them know just what "idiots" they are. I'm sure that once they are so humbled by knowing that MrSinister99 has chosen the word "lexicon" over "dictionary" as the appropriate terminology, they'll see the error of their ways and immediately make the change to "Webster's Lexicon".
Any sensible musician will say that it is exaggerated. The resemblance is surprising but the coincidence is far from being improbable. I am guitarist and several years ago I composed a theme of 9 notes completely similar to a phrasing from the piano concerto #3 of Rachmaninov. I had still never listened to this artist before! By chance, I 'm not so famous than Coldplay, I believe that one would judge me systematically...
Emm creo k sta totalmente claro k coldplay a cogido un riff k le a gustado d Joe Satriani y lo an metido una cancion sulla. No solamente se an limitado a tocar el mismo riff, sino k el ritmo y todo es identico, DEMASIADA CASUALIDAD. Ademas, cuando compones una canion t aseguras d k no se parezca demasiado (o se identica) a alguna d otro artista.
parecida si , no identica.. esta progresion es muy comun en acordes menores ... yo uso progresiones similares con miles de variantes dependiendo del mood y la cancion... No creo nadie se copiara a nadie
También sucede que esa secuencia de acordes base es muuuuuy común. Es más... seguramente a más de un lector de estos comentarios se le habrá ocurrido alguna vez algo parecido.
La cuestión de estas canciones, (a diferencia de la Cat Stevens, Balin, Enanitos Verdes, etc), es que el coro Coldplay comparte la misma sección, melodía, armonía, ritmo, metro, ritmo y el tempo, como Satriani pieza.
Hay junto a las canciones que no comparten esta muchos de los elementos de la música, y, por tanto, será muy interesante ver lo que pasa a ser de todo esto en los tribunales según el caso avanza.
no manche si no estas enterado ni comentes caon, solo quedas mal, la rola de enanitos verdes salio antes que la de satriani y me vale que los fans de este digan que el ya llevaba 10 años haciendo esta cancion! enanitos la saco primero en un disco, a satriani se le ocurriio despues
and here goes another one...i mean, it's a pretty easy and basic chord progression...let's all chalk it up to coincidence and the fact that maybe musicians are not that creative when it comes to chords? at least not as much we would like to believe...
Como si a Chris Martin le hiciera falta copiar...Si escuchárais más música os daríais cuenta de muchísimas más coincidencias. Acordes hay los que hay y es normal que se repitan en más de una estrofa..
is very close, i saw the video and in 3:19 is the moment that you said that are the same, the thing is more closer enanitos verdes to satriani than the others....
this song is very very very similar to Coldplay's Viva la Vida. the intro and of course the solo. Towards the middle the lyrics sound similar as well. 1:35
satrianis song doesnt sound anything like this song with the exception of three notes and you cant put a copyright on a note!!!But you can copyright a phrasing of notes which is called a melody and satriani didnt do that but coldplay certainlty did so.People get inspired by other peoples music to get ideas but to blatantly rip off a complete section of a song is plagiarism.
It's VERY difficult to prove plagiarism. And Viva la vida is a chord progression in the key of Fminor, thats starts with the sixth , then goes with the seventh, the third and the tonic (Fminor). Satriani STARTS with the fourth, then goes on with the same chords. So what you say that Coldplay ripped off a "complete" chord progression is false. And if you say that Coldplay copied Satriani, then SAtriani copied Enanitos Verdes... so... is Satriani plagied... can he sue for plagiarism too??
You make a good point but its way too close to say its just a coincidence.He substituted one chord but the timing the rythme and the phrasing is all the same.
The case with enanito a couple of notes are similar satriani didnt ripp off the whole song.If you want to hear a real ripp off look up the beatles dont let me down and bon jovi i'll be there for you.Listen to the chorus of the beatles and the opening vocals of bonjovi.
Yeah, could be... but like I said, proving that Coldplay plagied Satriani is very very hard. Anyone could present a very good point, favorizing both sides
PD: sorry for my english it's not my birth language
The issue for these songs, (unlike the Cat Stevens, Balin, Enanitos Verdes, etc.), is that the Coldplay chorus section shares the same; Melody, Harmony, Rhythm, Meter, Beat and Tempo, as the Satriani piece.
There are next to no songs that share this many of the elements of music, and therefore it will be very interesting to see what becomes of all of this in court as the case progresses.
Yes, actually the same standards and chord progressions are used over and over in music, the same goes for rythms and styles. For example, try to listen to "Frontera", a song recorded by Phil Manzanera an Robert Wyatt around 1975, and you could hear the resemblance between that and lots of tunes to be recorded later, by Latinamerican bands. By the way, Manzanera is Peruvian an Coldplay sucks
There's no copy from Satch at the song of Enanitos verdes cuz there's no more than 15% of the song that have the same melody, Satch only play this part 3 times in like 30 segs, so there's no copy. But Coldplay use the melody and almost the same things of "If I could fly" like a 60% of the song
Enanitos Verdes, i never heard of em & i dont think Satch ever heard of em also! Btw thats not the same melody AT ALL!
Satch music is more beautiful, thats why Copyplay, Coldgay,or Coldplay copy it bcoz their song Viva..shit..la..shit specially the intro & the riff are very similar to Satch's song If i could fly! Admit it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it's an ascending minor scale, melodic sequence, this isn't copying joe satriani. joe satriani's song is in major, meaning for all the noobs, it's a different chord progression.
this type of riff is common. the riff is going up the scale and its a melodic sequence. the simplest of simple.
it is very different. if you haven't noticed any differences between songs that sound happy and songs that sound gloomy then you need to get your ears checked. using different chords can change the structure of the song. everyone already knows the minor scale is a major 3rd of a major scale, so you don't have to mention simplistic things.
how common is going up a scale, and then using a melodic sequence or going up a scale? man, cmon. satriani's has a different rhythm, and at points hitsamenote
Unfortunately in the goerge harrison case the judge didn't care for notes and scales they sound the same and like you said it is common.Cold play nor joe or enanitos verdes own this tune.The case will be dissmissed .
I love Satch. I like Coldplay. That said. Joe should withdraw his lawsuit. His melody and chords are more similar to this than coldplay is to his song. Especially as this features a guitar playing that very 5 or 6 note melody.
The melody of If I could fly starts out similar to this one, but they resolve differntly so I could infer that Satriani did get inspiration from this, but it's not the same melody.
satriani/ verdes / coldplay / cat stevens,who gives a shit, just listen to the music these guys put out for our pleasure as well as thier own.....dog eat dog its all bollocks, just play the fucking music again and enjoy... any version will do, the're all good....................{-_-}/")
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I usually don't reply to retadarded people but I'll give you a sugestion: Stop sucking cock sometimes, it's fucking up you brain. Take a coffee break between you cock and other.
sorry i'm not a tone-deaf fucking idiot and i can pick out obvious similarities in songs... get your mouth off of satriani's balls for 5 seconds and maybe you'll hear it too. faggot
Don't forget to bring your mama's dinner tonight. She is working hard selling that old ass to truck drivers by the freeway so she can pay your sex change surgery.
emm, son solo las primeras notas, no tiene la misma armonia, y aparte sin menospreciar a enanitos, pero joe satriani, jamas se fijaria en copiarles algo por el puro nivel musikal, en el caso de colplay esta en la misma tonalidad, y es toda uan frase melodicA la ke toman
Okay guys lets be mature about this. Either we can say that great minds think alike or that Coldplay should get sued to hell for plagiarizing a song that was plagiarized.
On the grounds of all the three artists music being similar, I personally vote for Satriani's If I could Fly, being the best and most musically complex piece of art compared to the other two. For me 'If I could Fly' with my eyes closed take me to a subconscious land of memories. I prefer music more than songs any day.
If Enanitos Verdes or whoever he is thought that Satriani copied his rhythm and melody, he(Verdes) could have sued Joe four years ago over plagiarism. Why did all the hue and cry begin when Joe filed a law suit against Coldplay?
Are people actually serious. I'm sorry, but you can't copyright 3 notes, because that's the only similarity between these two songs. The rhthm is different, the tempo is different, the chord progression is completely different, and the melody is different except for those first three notes...
The guitarist is a big fan of Steve Vai and Joe Satriani. So, I'm sure that he'd be happy to here him or the song compared to one of Satirani's songs. No biggie. Leave the technicalities out and just enjoy the music as it is.
This person in the video has to realize that being an artist means creating your own music, not replicating somebody elses .. *cough* satriani *cough*
las teorías puden ser muchísimas teniendo en cuenta que Satriani compone y luego lanza en sus discos sus canciones así que si en algún trailer o algo así Satriani demostró que había hecho If I Could Fly, los Enanitos Verdes podrían haber plagiado o talvez no. Yo en lo personal prefiero a Satriani. En todo caso teoricen con Heaven de Warrant y el tema de los Babasónicos que dice: Cómanse a besos esta noche total nadie lo va a notar. Eso si que es un plagio maestros! Bueno... Saludos y suerte!
LudicrudSpeed 4 months ago
@LudicrudSpeed acabo escuchar ese tema y no se parecen en nada me hiciste escuchar una banda terrible de los 80 para nada...
paulmcjagger 1 month ago
@paulmcjagger ¡Idiota!
Kyerte 2 weeks ago
i can hear a lot of differences more than similarities
mahler666 5 months ago
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mahler666 5 months ago
except Frances Limon follows different chord progression and music theory than Satriani's, where Satriani's and Coldplay's are identical. And if you want to take it that far, look up Cat Steven's 'foreigner's suite', where Enanitos probably stole their song. You can take this back to the Crusades for all I care, all melodies have been discovered and played at some point, it's just fact
damanwithdaskillz 8 months ago
Are you guys kidding me? COLDPLAY CAME FIRST!!! LAWL. deh arguments iz so funnah
bigtemarifan 1 year ago
hahaha xD lol, satriani just got owned by the intro riff and chorus, however, i'm a huge fan of satriani but this is just undeniable. btw is that my granny behind the drums?
Thompsongast 1 year ago
satriani no creo ke escuche grupos como este asi ke no hay plagio ....
RockHostil70 1 year ago
satriani´s song is 2004 and Enanitos verdes´s song is 2002, so fuck you satriani, you fuckin loser
perjanan 1 year ago 5
jajajjajajja miren el video de satriani Satch boogie.... haber si el guitarrista de estos petardos toca mas que el mismisimo satriani , la estupides hasta donde llega
juangokufisher 1 year ago
Satriani should sue these fuckers! They stole his song!!!!!
SocalDNM 1 year ago
i kind of lost respect for satriani after he sued coldplay for a song he had stole already lol as a guitarist hes awsome but ehh...btw coldplay stole from satriani, satriani stole from enenitos verdes, and enanitos verdes stole from a 60s band i think or something like that
alekssr7 1 year ago
Satriani es muchisimo mejor que el gutarrista de los enanos,hasta donde podiamos llegar
3RRV 1 year ago
@3RRV no lo creo felipe el guitarrista de los enanitos es muy cabron no creo que satriani le gane ademas esta rola esta bien chida con los enanos le dieron su propio estilo asi que no hay comparacion enanitos son enanitos ayer ahora y siempre
atlixcoradio 1 year ago
@atlixcoradio Estas hablando de Joe Satriani maestro de Steve Vai y de Kirk Hammett? O de cual fumas pa estar igual
anl291987 8 months ago
gabos original
dredoful 1 year ago
They all copied Satriani!!!!
SocalDNM 1 year ago
@SocalDNM well i doubt it since they made this song years before joe´s version...im a follower of both but yeah coldplay stole from joe, and joe copied from enanitos verdes, and i think they took it from a 70s not well known band
alekssr7 1 year ago
haha los enanitos verdes sn buenos pero satriani es satriani asi que se le perdona a satriani por el simple echo de que es dios hahaha
aggguy666 1 year ago
Temaso! y la verdad es q es una melodia muy natural de surgir... es una secuencia muy simple... se le puede ocurrir a cualqueira cantando en la ducha. En fin, todo es posible... lo mejor de todo es q el violero toca con un sonido muy parecido al de Joe jejeje... Al fin y al cabo tampoco se dice q es plagiar un tipo de efecto o distorcion para la viola.
Saludos!
AgusAndRaven 1 year ago
el tema de los enanitos se hizo antes que el de satriani
manicomix13 1 year ago
acuazero213 como puedes pensar que es coincidencia que alguien componga exactamente lo mismo............ yo creo que eres fan de Cold Play
ringos001 1 year ago
JAJAJAJAJJA BOLUDO QUE INCREÍBLE, QUÉ FENÓMENOS LOS ENANITOS
PabloMaffioli 1 year ago
Me quedo con LEV. ke chingue su madre satriani, ni lo conozco ni me interesa y coldplay tambien puede chingar su madre, Radiohead rifa mas cabron ke esos weyes.
chingonm1 1 year ago
@chingonm1 es increible como uno se da cuenta de lo ignorante que es la gente por medio de un comentario de youtube...
pendejo
xXwarstuserXx 1 year ago
@xXwarstuserXx chingas a tu madre tambien puto maricon.
chingonm1 1 year ago
@chingonm1 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahh siiii ahuevo satriani es un pendejo aparte ese wey que importa solo le dio clases a steve vai que de seguro nisiquiera conoces tampoco y tambn al kirk hammet we pinche poser ponte a escuchar mas musica pinche reaggetonero de cagada
aggguy666 1 year ago
satrani ladron!
willow834 1 year ago
The Originator Is Cat Stevens which was back in 1973, so cat should sue everyone, even you the reader.....lol just kidding but check it out,
jonguitarist 1 year ago
its bound to happen, notes are always tending to sound the same u got a chords and its scales...whatever maybe all three should get together and jam HARD!!
jonguitarist 1 year ago 2
@jonguitarist you're f*ck*n' right!
AgusAndRaven 1 year ago
The only similarity is the bend. that's it...
McKinneyMichael 1 year ago
la cancion de satriani se estreno en el 2004, pero la escribió en la epoca de flying in a blue dream, es imposible que se la robara a enanitos verdes
systematicdesign 1 year ago
@systematicdesign una cosa es escribir la canción y otra es crear los compaces para grbar en estudio, asi q muy facilmente pudo haber tenido la letra y luego mezclarla con el ritmo plagiado!
a mi me parece q tal vez ninguno de los 2 halla plagiado a otro por lo menos no concientemente, solo coincidencia, pero si me paarece un descaro que satriani halla impuesto una demanda teniando rabo de paja!
acuazero213 1 year ago
JAJA all copies, enanitos verdes should sue satriani, the same way satriani sue coldplay
dddshuffle 1 year ago
mm pues sii fuera como dise
dRaK0RaMone
entonses yo voii a copiar todas las rolas de enanitos verdes ii las voii a cambiar aa secuensias mayores ii ya van aser mias ii voii aser bn exitoso ii no sera una copia porqe yo uso secuensias mayores o como........ sii los enanos quisieran pudieran meter una demanda ii yaa son identicas ambas
GAESRI 1 year ago
me mato de risa! Satriani mi idolo tamb es un copion! jajajaaj, :(
xdipax 2 years ago
jaja pero q mamada , si primero fue de los enanitos xDD estais locos ...
AUGUSTOEXEQUIEL 2 years ago
el guitarrista de enanitos verdes es principalmente influenciado por satriani, en uno de sus conciertos lo escuche tocando el intro de summer song en el final de una de sus canciones, no es raro que haya hecho algo que tenga mucha similitud
wuki333 2 years ago
Son como 4 notas, eso no se considera plagio, esto es una exageración, además, con todo el respeto que se merecen Enanitos Verdes y sin quitarles mérito, no creo que Satriani los conozca.
eltiogamboin 2 years ago
correcto segun la ley internacional maximo de 8 notas mas se considera plagio, ademas enanitos dijo q no hay plagio q ellos usan secuencis menores y satriani en secuencias mayores
dRaK0RaMone 2 years ago
Cat Stevens 1973 "Foreinger"
Enanitos Verdes 2002 "Francés Limón"
Joe Satriani 2004?? "Obvious plagiarism"
Coldplay ??????????
ZaratustraOK 2 years ago
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These beaners copied Joe Satriani!!
SocalDNM 2 years ago
Thess "beaners" came up with the song 2 years before satriani.. why the racism you moron?
frankibiris76r 2 years ago 17
@frankibiris76r lol They can't even be called beaners they're from Argentina. Just like me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FunkyArgentinean 1 year ago
@FunkyArgentinean some people are jsut stupid... mostly rednecks!! hahaha
cheloba1 1 year ago
@cheloba1 Fuck you beaner, White poeple are supreme to your people LOL
SocalDNM 1 year ago
@SocalDNM lol what a dumbfuck.
SoFarAreWe 1 year ago
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@SocalDNM "white people"... are you Gasper?.... xD...
cbuelot 1 year ago
@FunkyArgentinean Fuck argentina.
SocalDNM 1 year ago
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Psychadelixx 1 year ago
sera el sereno pero yo amo "frances limon"...esta cancion me transporta y no es solo musica...es letra y musica y satriani es pura musica
mayamile1 2 years ago
this is why i don't approve of joe suing coldplay. With that three note beginning with that rhythem, there's not too much that leads out of it. So it was bound to happen. Songs are similar, get over it.
rifall 2 years ago
Ladies Ladies... jajaja.
Enanitos Verde write this song on 2002 (amores lejanos)
Joe show his "Is there love in space" on 2004.
Niñas, Niñas.. enanitos verdes presentó el disco en 2002 y Joe en el 2004. Lean antes de comentar.. jajajaja ColdPlay es indefendible jajaja
FoxLalo!!!
foxlalo 2 years ago
yaaa cada quien satriani sabe lo q ue hace, enanitos verdes sabe lo que hace, coldplay sabe lo que hace, si, yaa mientras a ustedes no les afecte muy sus rolas
Dhanyel16 2 years ago
no jodamos muchachos.....cuantas chances hay de q satriani haya escuchado a los enanitos verdes....?? todo bien, pero a un genio como satriani no le hace falta copiar medio riff de una banda (buenisima banda) con poca llegada al mercado anglo
ben400 2 years ago
Its MELODY you daft, lilliputians! The cord progression and notes can be used, and be exact to other songs, in a myriad of ways. Its the MELODY that is EXACTLY the same from Coldplay vs. Satrianis' song. The illegal alien group, and Cat Stevens (some muslim now) sound NOTHING like 'If I could Fly' and THAT is what makes the Coldplay theft opf Satrianis' song the issue...not the progression or notes per se. Study some music theology before you attempt to write a clarified, intellectual point.
MrSinister99 2 years ago
Illegal alien group? What comment is that?
By the way, Satriani obviously copied this song here (and improved, of course) and Coldplay stole the copy from Satriani.
Now, we have to find who Enanitos are copying :-)
caravaggio31 2 years ago
@MrSinister99 Maybe you could open a dictionary before you go trying to make yourself sound smarter than you obviously aren't. Please, tell me about this "music theology" that you apparently know so much about. I'm intrigued! Idiot. It's music THEORY you retard, not theology!! LOL
the·ol·o·gy
noun,plural-gies.
1. the field of study and analysis that treats of God and of God's attributes and relations to the universe; study of divinethings or religious truth; divinity.
Thudpaw2006 1 year ago
Ah, what the hell, i'll beat you up as well. Now, daft one, this is called a TYPO, I of course meant THEORY (any two bit azz wipe could have figured that out, too bad you're a one bit) Next, if you had even a smidgen of intellect, you'd know that "dictionary" is the idiots terminology for the book, it's actually called a LEXICON! Now, need I continue, and prove your momma should swallowed? Or would you like to match that half wit (Obama like) primate brain, with mine? Like perhaps music THEORY?
MrSinister99 1 year ago
LOL!!! Your unnecessarily verbose, pretentious vocab. neither intimidates, nor impresses me (or anyone else for that matter, I'm sure). As much as I would love to pick apart and argue your rambling, pompous reply line by line, I won't. I have more important things to do than play "whose vocabulary has the bigger dick". Now get back to your game of Warcraft, or masturbating to Battlestar Galactica or whatever it was you were doing.
Thudpaw2006 1 year ago
Oh yea, I almost forgot -- I'll be sure to contact Webster's and let them know just what "idiots" they are. I'm sure that once they are so humbled by knowing that MrSinister99 has chosen the word "lexicon" over "dictionary" as the appropriate terminology, they'll see the error of their ways and immediately make the change to "Webster's Lexicon".
Thudpaw2006 1 year ago
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Any sensible musician will say that it is exaggerated. The resemblance is surprising but the coincidence is far from being improbable. I am guitarist and several years ago I composed a theme of 9 notes completely similar to a phrasing from the piano concerto #3 of Rachmaninov. I had still never listened to this artist before! By chance, I 'm not so famous than Coldplay, I believe that one would judge me systematically...
esthetichaos 2 years ago
Watch out Enanitos, Joe may come after you next!!! :O
iamthebstgirly 2 years ago
i dont thinks so cause ithink enanitos verdes made the song before joe satriani made his song
destinationpsp 2 years ago 9
unless satriani can prove that he had been righting the song for several years as he claims.
DanielCriticalMX 2 years ago
Emm creo k sta totalmente claro k coldplay a cogido un riff k le a gustado d Joe Satriani y lo an metido una cancion sulla. No solamente se an limitado a tocar el mismo riff, sino k el ritmo y todo es identico, DEMASIADA CASUALIDAD. Ademas, cuando compones una canion t aseguras d k no se parezca demasiado (o se identica) a alguna d otro artista.
guitarristajeldn 2 years ago
parecida si , no identica.. esta progresion es muy comun en acordes menores ... yo uso progresiones similares con miles de variantes dependiendo del mood y la cancion... No creo nadie se copiara a nadie
gnramon 2 years ago
Enanitos verdes 2002
Satriani 2004
dudas? =)
XDSSD 2 years ago 3
También sucede que esa secuencia de acordes base es muuuuuy común. Es más... seguramente a más de un lector de estos comentarios se le habrá ocurrido alguna vez algo parecido.
JAvo
JAviDavi 2 years ago
Frances Le mon, love that part
pdllczr 2 years ago
La cuestión de estas canciones, (a diferencia de la Cat Stevens, Balin, Enanitos Verdes, etc), es que el coro Coldplay comparte la misma sección, melodía, armonía, ritmo, metro, ritmo y el tempo, como Satriani pieza.
Hay junto a las canciones que no comparten esta muchos de los elementos de la música, y, por tanto, será muy interesante ver lo que pasa a ser de todo esto en los tribunales según el caso avanza.
SirGougeAlot 2 years ago
Satriani no se ve a los perdedores para copiar canciones. Verdes es sólo tratar de obtener de esta publicidad. Deberían callarse y desaparecer.
SirGougeAlot 2 years ago
@SirGougeAlot los enanitos no estan reclamando nada, ademas que ellos hiceron la cancion en el 2002 y satriani en el 2004.
NNachtschatteNN 2 years ago
no es idéntica a la de satriani, pero si tiene mucho parecido =S
rodrigocgak 2 years ago
si, igual vaya xD
golitupeador 2 years ago
suckerss
CAT STEVENS crated the song in 1973, called FOREIGNER SUITE
Then ENANITOS VERDES did the same in Frances Limon in 2002
Then Satriani in 2004 in if I Could Fly
And then Colplay did it with Viva la Vida
And also Alizze did it once
elfelposo2008 2 years ago
there was alos a unsighned new york band called the sqeaky boards or creaky boards onvolved
rune6134 2 years ago
I totally agree on the Alizee part but stupid ppl keep on disagreein.
jorgeaguirrethomasmx 2 years ago
thats only one melody line...
this may be only my opinion but coldplay have the same melody(vocal), same chord progression, same tempo as satch's.
zactakahawk 2 years ago
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo nooooooooooooooooo maten a esos enanos x dios q barbarie q facil falsifican todo
Ravalenciano777 2 years ago
Los enanitos verdes hicieron esta rola primero. Checa las fechas de los discos.
LGshwm 2 years ago 3
no manche si no estas enterado ni comentes caon, solo quedas mal, la rola de enanitos verdes salio antes que la de satriani y me vale que los fans de este digan que el ya llevaba 10 años haciendo esta cancion! enanitos la saco primero en un disco, a satriani se le ocurriio despues
cuajito4 2 years ago
Joe Satriani tardó 10 años en componer If I Could Fly !...
zadkielz 2 years ago
OOO QUE ASCO WN
AdlejandroP 2 years ago
Come on, don't be immature. Satriani has got TEMPO, GROOVE, CHORD PROGRESSION, and MELODY on coldplay, this would only have melody on Satriani
xX0Isaac0Xx 2 years ago
true that but very similar
lukeschennFTW 2 years ago
Don't forget to add this band, "creaky boards - the songs i didn't write" at least they were honest with their song title
NotaneR 2 years ago
and here goes another one...i mean, it's a pretty easy and basic chord progression...let's all chalk it up to coincidence and the fact that maybe musicians are not that creative when it comes to chords? at least not as much we would like to believe...
animetronic 2 years ago
jajajaja esa cancion mas plagio para donde escuchen a Jen ai marre, de Alizée, que data del 2003
Keitgeist 2 years ago
Band or musician: Enanitos Verdes / Song: Frances Limon / Year: 2002
Band or musician: Joe Satrini / Song: If I Could Fly / Year: 2004
Band or musician: Coldplay / Song: Viva la Vida / Year: 2008
Thief who robs thief, 100 years of forgiveness!!
Ladrón que roba a ladrón 100 años de perdón!
thinktankgirl 2 years ago
Como si a Chris Martin le hiciera falta copiar...Si escuchárais más música os daríais cuenta de muchísimas más coincidencias. Acordes hay los que hay y es normal que se repitan en más de una estrofa..
CurithirObila 2 years ago
Band or musician;Cat Steven/Song: Love / Heaven / Year :1973
gmontes 2 years ago
Really? ha ha ha It must be the most used melody in the history. I will search that song! :D
thinktankgirl 2 years ago
is very close, i saw the video and in 3:19 is the moment that you said that are the same, the thing is more closer enanitos verdes to satriani than the others....
jftatru 2 years ago
How could Satrani have stolen this?
It took him 10 years to write it, and it was for his wife!!
CherryKarin 2 years ago 2
dude that sounds pretty close...but which song came out first?
IwishIwereJoe 2 years ago
Aguanten los enanitos verdeeesss!!!
Por que no cierran la boca y disfrutan la buena musica! Enanos, ColdPlay, Satriani y Cat Stevens.....todos una masa!
nasuad 2 years ago 3
coldplay wrote viva la vida years before if i could fly, take that into concideration
vitamincool 2 years ago
Are you nuts joe satriani released the song in 2004.
jimmys511 2 years ago
there is more than one great musical mind in the world.
vitamincool 2 years ago
Wow get over it, there are thousands of guitarists and melodies, its bound to be played a couple of times by different people all over the world
AlexandBrendan 2 years ago
this song is very very very similar to Coldplay's Viva la Vida. the intro and of course the solo. Towards the middle the lyrics sound similar as well. 1:35
darthshnider23 2 years ago
satrianis song doesnt sound anything like this song with the exception of three notes and you cant put a copyright on a note!!!But you can copyright a phrasing of notes which is called a melody and satriani didnt do that but coldplay certainlty did so.People get inspired by other peoples music to get ideas but to blatantly rip off a complete section of a song is plagiarism.
jimmys511 2 years ago
It's VERY difficult to prove plagiarism. And Viva la vida is a chord progression in the key of Fminor, thats starts with the sixth , then goes with the seventh, the third and the tonic (Fminor). Satriani STARTS with the fourth, then goes on with the same chords. So what you say that Coldplay ripped off a "complete" chord progression is false. And if you say that Coldplay copied Satriani, then SAtriani copied Enanitos Verdes... so... is Satriani plagied... can he sue for plagiarism too??
sortilegiosrock 2 years ago
You make a good point but its way too close to say its just a coincidence.He substituted one chord but the timing the rythme and the phrasing is all the same.
The case with enanito a couple of notes are similar satriani didnt ripp off the whole song.If you want to hear a real ripp off look up the beatles dont let me down and bon jovi i'll be there for you.Listen to the chorus of the beatles and the opening vocals of bonjovi.
peace.
jimmys511 2 years ago
Yeah, could be... but like I said, proving that Coldplay plagied Satriani is very very hard. Anyone could present a very good point, favorizing both sides
PD: sorry for my english it's not my birth language
PD2: my pleasure jimmy ;-)
sortilegiosrock 2 years ago
sortile thanx for not being arrogant.Its very rare to have an intelligent conversation when disagreeing on something or being corrected on a topic.
jimmys511 2 years ago
tengo el pene hinchado...
m4r1lynm4n50n 2 years ago
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The issue for these songs, (unlike the Cat Stevens, Balin, Enanitos Verdes, etc.), is that the Coldplay chorus section shares the same; Melody, Harmony, Rhythm, Meter, Beat and Tempo, as the Satriani piece.
There are next to no songs that share this many of the elements of music, and therefore it will be very interesting to see what becomes of all of this in court as the case progresses.
SirGougeAlot 2 years ago
Yes, actually the same standards and chord progressions are used over and over in music, the same goes for rythms and styles. For example, try to listen to "Frontera", a song recorded by Phil Manzanera an Robert Wyatt around 1975, and you could hear the resemblance between that and lots of tunes to be recorded later, by Latinamerican bands. By the way, Manzanera is Peruvian an Coldplay sucks
cyburied 2 years ago
ey no es tan solo el solo d guitarra
tambien cuando canta.. me recuerda mucho a la cancion d satriani
mmm esto es una cadena de demandas!!! jajjaa
para q tanto lio!!!
dejense d joder!!
Gabytatrejo 2 years ago
this is like michael jackson/rihanna/jamaicanguy
moniicold 2 years ago
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The main thing we should all understand here is that Enanitos SUCKS and Joe does NOT.
SirGougeAlot 2 years ago
LOL, enanitos sucks, no, you suck
i like them both
but i like more enanitos verdes
by the way im mexican
Metallicapocalyptic 2 years ago
Frankly, if you sucked anymore you would inhale your own dick.
SirGougeAlot 2 years ago
no if i sucked more i would be american
by the way.....im sorry to confuse you, mexico , another country besides usa
Metallicapocalyptic 2 years ago
lol i liked that that's reall funny you made my day i'm bolivian but watch all these other people ask if that's a city in mexico
14yearoldxboxfan 2 years ago
Frances limon was made after If I Could fly
xXxYamatoxXx 2 years ago
No it wasn't I had the album in 2002.the song was recorded in 2001. Go to there web site it tells you the year of release.
bigbrova2 2 years ago
Gee doesn'this make joe look like an ass!
bigbrova2 2 years ago 4
Its really just the beginning of the solo,
so if this band should sew anyone its coldplay
Nirvanarien 2 years ago
this band shld sue coldplay and satriani then.
trefoil666 2 years ago
There's no copy from Satch at the song of Enanitos verdes cuz there's no more than 15% of the song that have the same melody, Satch only play this part 3 times in like 30 segs, so there's no copy. But Coldplay use the melody and almost the same things of "If I could fly" like a 60% of the song
albertw666 2 years ago
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leprozac 2 years ago
Satch never copy music, he create music!
Enanitos Verdes, i never heard of em & i dont think Satch ever heard of em also! Btw thats not the same melody AT ALL!
Satch music is more beautiful, thats why Copyplay, Coldgay,or Coldplay copy it bcoz their song Viva..shit..la..shit specially the intro & the riff are very similar to Satch's song If i could fly! Admit it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well that's my opinion, sorry!
milanistatea 2 years ago
it's an ascending minor scale, melodic sequence, this isn't copying joe satriani. joe satriani's song is in major, meaning for all the noobs, it's a different chord progression.
this type of riff is common. the riff is going up the scale and its a melodic sequence. the simplest of simple.
again, it's in MINOR. very different.
GuitarDude1 2 years ago 3
Hmm, that makes sense.
And it's genius, I believe I'm about to go and rewrite every song and flip minor/major keys.
You're welcome, everybody; I've just doubled the number of songs out there.
Ha, I'm joking. But major to minor doesn't mean very different. It just means it's changed.
Oh, and not taking sides here.
k7rod 2 years ago
it is very different. if you haven't noticed any differences between songs that sound happy and songs that sound gloomy then you need to get your ears checked. using different chords can change the structure of the song. everyone already knows the minor scale is a major 3rd of a major scale, so you don't have to mention simplistic things.
how common is going up a scale, and then using a melodic sequence or going up a scale? man, cmon. satriani's has a different rhythm, and at points hitsamenote
GuitarDude1 2 years ago
Lol, yeah, but it's a different sound, not too different a structure. It's like building something out of lego's or k'nex.
And when it's supposed to sound different, and it still sounds that similar, lol, that's not good.
k7rod 2 years ago
Unfortunately in the goerge harrison case the judge didn't care for notes and scales they sound the same and like you said it is common.Cold play nor joe or enanitos verdes own this tune.The case will be dissmissed .
bigbrova2 2 years ago
I love Satch. I like Coldplay. That said. Joe should withdraw his lawsuit. His melody and chords are more similar to this than coldplay is to his song. Especially as this features a guitar playing that very 5 or 6 note melody.
He is acting like a plonker and is so not cool.
TrueGroup 2 years ago
The melody of If I could fly starts out similar to this one, but they resolve differntly so I could infer that Satriani did get inspiration from this, but it's not the same melody.
ShawnOfTheDead1982 2 years ago
satriani/ verdes / coldplay / cat stevens,who gives a shit, just listen to the music these guys put out for our pleasure as well as thier own.....dog eat dog its all bollocks, just play the fucking music again and enjoy... any version will do, the're all good....................{-_-}/")
brogen4679 2 years ago 2
Sounds more like Santana than Satriani.
Newworldman66 2 years ago
All 3 sound the same, lets just be honest.
I believe its all just a pure coincidence
harrilewis 2 years ago
this doesn't sound the same at all, just that one bend sounds the same
xxRockst4r 2 years ago
Sounds quite similar to Satriani's version however, they way both Satriani and Verdes jazzes up the melody makes the sound different in the end.
Verdes' melody kinda makes me feel sad and then gives me a feeling that it'll be alright somehow...is that weird?
crispen1151 2 years ago
we can not compare each is very talented this song is awesome.
jamgarza1 3 years ago
great bass
verysilvery445 3 years ago
reminds me of Santana
zaxmania 3 years ago
no way, not that similar to Satriani's song
infidel100 3 years ago
you must not have listened to around 3:15....it's a dead ringer
joeatmovinginstereo 3 years ago
It's a bit of a stretch to say they sound the same.
Viva la vida and If I could fly do sound the same, you could play both at the same time in harmony. It's almost the same.
infidel100 3 years ago
This song here and Satriani's song sound more alike than Satriani's song and Viva la Vida.
They all sound like Cat Stevens' Heaven.
cphil006 3 years ago
what are you a fucking idiot? this sounds more like satriani's song than coldplay does. pull your head out of your ass moron
lakerspirate 2 years ago
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I usually don't reply to retadarded people but I'll give you a sugestion: Stop sucking cock sometimes, it's fucking up you brain. Take a coffee break between you cock and other.
infidel100 2 years ago
sorry i'm not a tone-deaf fucking idiot and i can pick out obvious similarities in songs... get your mouth off of satriani's balls for 5 seconds and maybe you'll hear it too. faggot
lakerspirate 2 years ago
Don't forget to bring your mama's dinner tonight. She is working hard selling that old ass to truck drivers by the freeway so she can pay your sex change surgery.
infidel100 2 years ago
This sounds like a great Wedding Band !
tonyaldi 3 years ago
lol,
still, your opinion sucks. The resemblance is uncanny.
ArcadiusKol 3 years ago
They should get all the credit
They have more talent than Satriani and Cockplay put together
WKaliber1 3 years ago
que verguenza
satchzzz 3 years ago
apestan
bolibicazul 3 years ago
felipe staiti rocks
quinosfan87 3 years ago
Todos lo hacen es la copia universal
gordonmantecas 3 years ago
perros de mierda
pumpkinhead63 3 years ago
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Noooooooooooooooooo suerte con esta banducha tan peye! Satriani es música pura, no anda copiandose y menos de grupejos suramericanos.
Saludos a todos.
gosiman 3 years ago
asi es amigo tienes razon satriani es la ley
lonelyjedi19 3 years ago
why doesn't everyone just shut up and comment about the video. this is youtube, not a debating society.
konsybob 3 years ago
Youtube IS a debating society, or it wouldn't be a comment box here
LolzNdolz 3 years ago 2
Because ESP out sells an American Guitar market somehow Japan is on the cutting edge of technology? What kind of dumb comment is this?
Yes, Japan is in the inside track of technology but mentioning ESP sales is retarded.
Ed Roman can build a guitar better than any ESP model but what teenager can afford it?
You should mention Japan's work with components used in the United State's Fighter Jets instead of some dumb Guitar.
Whocaresifyoucare 3 years ago
emm, son solo las primeras notas, no tiene la misma armonia, y aparte sin menospreciar a enanitos, pero joe satriani, jamas se fijaria en copiarles algo por el puro nivel musikal, en el caso de colplay esta en la misma tonalidad, y es toda uan frase melodicA la ke toman
malmsteenwashburn 3 years ago
idiotas lod enanitos es solo parecido.en cambio cold play si es completo plagio
chumbirayhp 3 years ago
ENANITOS VERDES -AMORES LEJANOS (FRANCES LIMON)-2002
JOE SATRIANI- Is There Love in Space?(IF I COULD FLY)-2004
COLDPLAY(VIVA LA VIDA)-2008
IT'S TOO OBIOUS ¬¬
TAN OBIO ¬¬
ENANITOS VERDES ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!
sliperuknot 3 years ago
Okay guys lets be mature about this. Either we can say that great minds think alike or that Coldplay should get sued to hell for plagiarizing a song that was plagiarized.
realguitarist07 3 years ago
On the grounds of all the three artists music being similar, I personally vote for Satriani's If I could Fly, being the best and most musically complex piece of art compared to the other two. For me 'If I could Fly' with my eyes closed take me to a subconscious land of memories. I prefer music more than songs any day.
guitardude20 3 years ago
If Enanitos Verdes or whoever he is thought that Satriani copied his rhythm and melody, he(Verdes) could have sued Joe four years ago over plagiarism. Why did all the hue and cry begin when Joe filed a law suit against Coldplay?
guitardude20 3 years ago
Are people actually serious. I'm sorry, but you can't copyright 3 notes, because that's the only similarity between these two songs. The rhthm is different, the tempo is different, the chord progression is completely different, and the melody is different except for those first three notes...
fishqwer 3 years ago 5
The guitarist is a big fan of Steve Vai and Joe Satriani. So, I'm sure that he'd be happy to here him or the song compared to one of Satirani's songs. No biggie. Leave the technicalities out and just enjoy the music as it is.
senorv6 3 years ago
AGUANTE LOS ENANITOS ARGENTINOS!!
SLASHMPI 3 years ago
the cord progression is not the same, the melody is not the same, its not a copy
loborneta 3 years ago 3
Coldplay's Chris Martin has admitted their 2000 hit single 'Shiver' had been a Buckley rip-off.
azlanpermatahati 3 years ago 4
Seems like Satriani copied the great Enanitos Verdes. Thumbs up if you want Enanitos Verdes to sue Satriani!
tonatiuhnitor 3 years ago
satriani satriani! poor satriani!!! n yet u said cold play copied part of theirs, HUH!! shame . . . !
lin945 3 years ago
This person in the video has to realize that being an artist means creating your own music, not replicating somebody elses .. *cough* satriani *cough*
1337radiantEnergy 3 years ago 2