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  • Wheres obamas change now?

  • Mccain serve in the Officer not enlisted, he had serve the enlist tough life. I was originalv out for Mccain but switch after he oppose the new gi bill.

  • I hate female politicians.

  • now tell me how happy you are of your children over in a far off country, breathing chemicals and killing inocent people, because the troops I talked to say they hate being there. And when they come home....you can pay for the hospital of your choice to try to save your babies life. So no hatefull answers cause, your wrong and you know it, love is the way brother......HALE THE RESISTANCE!

  • ACTUALLY, loving your neighbor doesn't entail allowing him to murder you. Unless you live in an attic, and dont realize what is going in in the world,

    they will kill you simply because you are an infidel. I would rather live next door to one of those christians anyday.

  • Biden is an effin idiot who was in FACT expelled from Syracuse University for one year for CHEATING! Yet he is one heartbeat away from the White House!

  • McCain is a hero, but he was wrong on the new G.I. bill.

  • what hero? he has been in prison the whole war, he aint no hero, he is a dickhead!

  • Look at Obama reading that speech that someone else wrote for him. Governor Huckabee does not have speechwriters. He doesn't need them.

  • Obama has never shown a iota of respect for military, not once. To want the federal government to renege on its obligation to those who fought for our & others freedom? Liberal feel good programs like taxing smokers 1000% underprivileged childrens health care, thats okay but when it comes to forking out a chunk of change to the warmongering military, well, Obama doesn't go for that! This is only the beginning of the outrages well see towards our military during Obamas reign

  • These liberal media just make me sick the way they will bend over backwards for their liberal candidate at the expense of Senator mcCain who is a HERO.....Time will tell what kind of president Obama will be. It's time for a NEW kind of leader and that is Mike Huckabee.

  • Hey McCain, I have military experience and I think you're full of shit!

  • I concur with that argument. It's like he wants us to be as ignorant as he was in Officer School(895th of 899).

  • I think Biden meant Post hok ergo hok not ad hominen... but eh.. i got his point.

  • John Mcsame is F**king Crazy

  • looking to be rated in private any takers?

  • The NEW GI Bill grants a 4 year paid College Education to our returning War Vetereans.

    McCain voted against the New GI Bill because the enrollment of new troops have gone down & McCain fears that War Veterans will not re-enlist for a 4th, 5th or 6th Middle East campaign, but would instead choose to go to College paid by the GI Bill.

    By voting against the New GI Bill, McCain proves that he doesn't give a damn about our War Veterans. He's more concerned about winning Bush's war in Iraq.

  • Tideofcrimson--Like a good Ratpublican, you mouth off without anything to back it off!!

    Beside the New G.I. Bill, McCain opposed 9 times out of 12 the Health Benefits Increase for War Vets. The US Vets have given McCain a low "D" rating for not supporting them.

    Check the Congressional Records you moron. The records DO NOT LIE ... but you, McCain & Palin all do!!

    VOTE ON THE SERIOUS ISSUES--VOTE OBAMA~BIDEN 08

  • And just like a great Liberal, you have something snide to say about it. Let me ask you... What are your views(views that are orginally yours and not your favorite canidate's) about this GI bill? I want to know what you thinks, not what you have heard tha brotha say to you. I apologize for the language, I just get ralled up on this subject.

  • Obama/Biden '08

  • 58,300 men and women have effected by stop loss

    You know what stop loss is? it is when unwilling men and women get called back into Iraq and/or Afghanistan because there are not enough troops enlisting. We have to take action, We are in Iraq for what reason?

    We will be having a draft if McCain gets in office.

    So if you vote for McCain and then your son gets drafted into war, don't cry , and certainly don't bitch,

    you helped put McCain there

    We can't have this nonsense

    Obama '08

  • Nice name.

  • THe whole Truth is that McCain has his own Bill on Veterans education Benefits and the Webb Bill Contained Hidden earmarks for Home heating subsidies Obama wanted.

    So tell me Joe, What did Obama tell you as the reason he didn't care about Saving "Thousands of american lives"?

  • That would be worth losing over! Hundreds of lives are being saved,and will be saved by us sending these vehicles over which we are funding with this supplmental legislation. And I want to ask any of my other colleages ...Would they in fact cut off the money for those troops to protect them? That's the right question! This isn't cutting off the war, this is cutting off support, that will SAVE the LIVES of thousands of American troops!

  • Tim Russert to Biden "many democrats will say senator Biden is to cut off Funding, everything else is small talk and unless your willing to do that you will not be the democratic nominee!

    Biden" If you tell me I've got to take away the protection for these kids, in order to win the election, some things aren't worth it! Some things are worth losing over! That would be worth losing over!

  • McCain is not against funding for scholarships for veterans....could it be that the bill was packed with ridiculous earmarks and other attachments he opposed? These important issues should not come with socialist attachments.

  • for goodness sake some americans reallllly are idiots lol, "The Europeans like him because he has very socialist views and that is the type of government they have their"- firstly Europe is a CONTINENT encompassing MANY different and dicerse NATIONS, as an irish man my political ideals are very different from say a turks or agermans, and barack obama and the gvernments (PLURAL!) of europe are about as 'socialist' as my little finger! hes central right, so is the EU for goodness sake!

  • OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!!

    Don't hate

  • I have to agree with mcCain on this one. I'm still neck-deep in my own student loans, I work hard, I don't own a car and live poorly; on top off that I'm paying for the salaries for all these thugs to quell a civil war in Iraq via taxes; I shouldn't have to pay for their college education as well as my own.

    If some Americans want to pay for college for soldiers then they should CHOOSE to do so; the government shouldn't make me spend money on bullshit i don't need, with money i don't have.

  • Biggest-ever national deficit. President Bush inherited a $236 billion surplus -- the largest ever -- and turned it into the largest deficit in American history, including a record $413 billion hole in 2004.[ President Bush's Budget for Fiscal Year 2002, "A Blueprint for New Beginnings," Office of Management and Budget, 2/28/01]

  • Tied for worst job creation since Herbert Hoover. President Bush is tied with his father for the worst job-creation record since the Great Depression. [Bureau of Labor Statistics]

  • Greatest income disparity on record. The starkly uneven growth in America as the rich get rich and the poor get poorer has brought the highest levels of inequality since at least 1979, when this data was first collected.["Income Inequality Hits Record Levels, New CBO Data Show", Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, 12/14/07]

  • Soldiers deserve every bit of anything they can get. Do you have any military friends and/or family? They provide the defense for our country. Yes, they did CHOOSE to join, just like I did, BUT, in case you have not noticed, recruitment is down. You have to have some honey to attract the bees, if not, I guess you would rather go to a draft. Do you want a draft? McCain denied that because he thinks today's military has it TOO good. But he has to remember that he was in YEARS ago. He forgot this.

  • We could just leave Iraq! I'm paying for an optional war, that kids who played to much counterstrike are fighting for entertainment purposes. Yes I do have friends that left the military. It increase hatred of America world wide and has prompted thousands of people world wide to become anti-American terrorists; ultimately putting us all in much greater danger. I don't mind spending money on a defensive military.

  • Well, sorry to tell you, but it would HAVE to include incentives such as educational benefits such as this GREAT GI Bill, bonuses, and good training for trades to be converted in the civilian sector. Because lets be honest, some military members might say now a days that they joined solely on patroitism, and hey that's great, but I assure you the military wouldn't have HALF the people that are in it right now if it wasn't for the incentives that they offer. Just being honest here.

  • OBAMA IS THE BEST CHOICE

  • shut up faggot. He's awful. He doesn't know anything and he's a nigger

  • ... Whats the problem that he is black ? Ok , seriously the whole of America is a laughing stock to us . Us , Europeans . 80 % of the Europe is voting on Obama to win . Do you know how DAMN huge he is here ? They sell Obama cups ,underwear , t-shirts And most Europeans are white . And we dont think your country is the worlds greatest.Atleast not the greatest people because the people that have problem with skincolour are idiots.The only reason someone is black is because of sun rays&genes.

  • Im am not racist at all and I am glad a black man has desided to run for president but Barack obama is not nearly qualified to run a country. The Europeans like him because he has very socialist views and that is the type of government they have their. Its not like it even matters if they like him, are the voting? No

  • what qualifies you to run a country? please almost every president has said there is no experience in the world could prepare you for that job. besides george bush had more experience than Obama right. and you see what happened there

  • Some people need to be reminded of this. But I never forgot.

  • Obama is the ONLY choice.

  • they took about some parts to make obama look bad. people need to stop doing what ever it takes to win.

  • Oh ok all the dems and liberal biased media has been blasting the hell out of Sarah Palin for everything that she has no control over, oh wow her husband got a DUI 22 years ago, as i recall about the same time Mr Barack was smoking dope and snorting cocaine. so you tell me who is trying to make people look bad, the media has hounded her because her 17 year old daughter is pregnant, wow and you say people will do anything to win, look at both sides

  • what is it with his fucking eyes?

  • McCain doesn't support anything that might help the average person. He supports corparate greed, the wealthy, and perpetual war.

    A McCain presidency would continue the disasterous agenda of George Bush.

    Havn't we had enough?

  • Biden is a perfect VP for Obama.

  • Hahahahaah, But Obama voted against it too, why is he not blasting Obama?, oh, I forgot, he is his VP.

  • The first draft of the GI Bill tried to give the same benifits to everybody in the military whether they serve only three years or thirty years. It's not good for the military nor it is fair. Giving money to everybody no matter if they deserve it or not will just create lazy americans that will just wait for the goverment to feed and cloth them.

  • did you really just say that?

    im really confused about what you just said

    because it sounds to me like you believe some people dont deserve it

  • joe biden is the balls.

  • mccain is a vet but that not make you a good president it no make me have to vote for him

  • McCain DOESNT SUPPORT THE TROOPS he OPPOSED the G.I. Bill.......WTF?!!! So fuck any of you who say Obama is unpatriotic because he supported it!

  • senate . gov / legislative / LIS / roll_call_lists / roll_call_vote_cfm . cfm?congress=107&vote=00237&se­ssion=2

    See how Mr Biden voted on the use of force against Iraq...

    Hypocrites..

  • Stop Blinking so much, you can tell McCain is being deceptive.

  • Yeah McCain, you served bravely in the military. But a lot of people don't have a rich navy admiral for a father like you did. And college tends to be getting more and more expensive, something you never had to worry about. If someone decides to serve this country willingly, why is it unreasonable to at least give soldiers, who may not be able to afford it, the opportunity to get an education so they might be just a little better for themselves and the job they do?

  • john mccain is a fake, self-righteous prick.

  • Biden spot on as always.

  • We can give up a little in the short run for our future's good. After WW II we did the right thing we tightened our belts and gave all returning soldiers a college education, at any college, and a stipend to live - the rusult a strong American middle class

    Most middle class Americanss and a lot of the very rich, would not be here today if their fathers, grandfathers, or great grandfathers hadn't had the GI BIll. DO what is right for America and our soldiers. Support another Bill -

  • Look at these smart-*** NBC Liberals.

    At least Bush served in the Coast Guard.

    The fact is, Obama doesn't need to go to war to serve our country. He doesn't deserve to be president.

  • Why do people think jarheads make good presidents? They never have.

    Obama served his country by working with charity and helping the community. Which was more beneficial for the country than the three planes McCain crashed and the terrible policy's he has flip-flopped to get GOP-base votes over the centuries.

  • Ok well how does being a "community organizer" qualify you to be the president of the united states and neither does 4 years in the senate and 1 being a Illinois senator. And out of the 4 years he was on senate he did not vote yes or no on any bill he voted "present". How does that qualify you to be the president of the US. John McCain was a war hero yes, but its not like he just jumped out of the war and desided to run for president, he was also a senator for 22 years.

  • And he actually voted yes or no not just "present". John McCain has served more time in a war camp in solitary confinement in a small totally inclosed shack with broken bones and sicknesses than Barack Obama has served in the US senate and been a politician all together

  • hckyboy14 i hope you see that mccain will further plunge this country into an economic depression because that is exactly whats going on. mccain is a war hero doesnt mean hell make a good president.

  • Absolutely, Most of these guys know nothing about Obama. His legislative Career was padded by being handed bills to take to the floor by Emil Jones. He uses the Saul Alinsky method of organizing...tell the what they want to hear.

    The man is a Marxist and a liar.

  • Yes you are exactly right, visfen is a liberal jackass who trys to defend his canidate with negitive remarks about others, visfen what has obama and you say jarheads dont make good presidents, look at the facts ass hole all of our presidents have been in the military except 2, so your saying all of our presidents have been bad besides Clinton who didnt serve?

  • Clinton was one of the best US presidents within modern times.

  • No, it doesn't, but good judgment and experience in law does. I don't think anyone really can say what makes someone ready for the presidency, being shot down and being a POW certainly does not qualify you.

    He did vote yes and no, check the senate voting record.

    No, I'm not saying he jumped, it's the experience that makes him qualified, but the problem is that he has terrible judgment. He's McBush! 95%!

    Something needs to be said, it's McCains fault for being a POW, he was a terrible pilot.

  • And your a good pilot?

  • Yes, I'm an excellent pilot. I can fly fifteen jets all at once with my toes.

  • These men have given up so much for us - they deserve the American dream - Please contact your Congressman and Senators and ask them to support this Bill. Many join for a chance in life, in the future, we wil have less volunteers because they will know they are deserted when they come home. They deserve the equivelent GI benefits our fathers, grandfathers got after WW II. It is good for all. It made the middle class - we are losing the middle class - we need an educated workforce.

  • catndryer is right. McCain knows far more about how veterans feel than Obama or Biden could grasp. their GI Bill gives you full benefits after 3 years. John McCain says it should be on a tiered level you get more benefits for more years of service and that is how it should be. I've served. you will spend at least a year and a half training! you would easily never deploy and get to milk it. thats not fair to others that are in our military for a career they should have the better benefits.

  • You're a fucking idiot, and a damn poser. No damn veteran would take the McCain garbage. We spend in several months in Iraq what the Jim Webb bill would cost over 10 years...

    Go crawl back under the rock you came out of...

    /Former Army Ranger....

  • Liar.

  • McCain had 100% of his college paid by the military. He gets 58k a year in disability. he knows nothing about the modern military. his father was an admiral. most are not born with the advantages he was. you need to learn some stuff, really.

  • I wonder how many women and children John McCaine slaughtered in Vietnam before he was taken prisioner? Maybe there is someone out there that can speak out about that and present the evidence. Can you imagine?

  • and maybe you can let us know how many TENS OF MILLIONS of SE Asians were slaughtered after the US pulled out of Vietnam.

  • More Vietnamese died during the Vietnam war than in the post war humanitarian crisis, the war with Cambodia and the Sino-Vietnamese war combined.

    The war was a terrible tragedy that was prolonged by the American unnecessary involvement.

    What was proven from this war is that modern warfare spread to neighboring countries, that it is impossible to stop a civil war and that trade can heal all wounds.

    Even though it was the longest war of the 20th century the involved countries are now trading.

  • I hope civil war spreads and the mullahs in Iran/ Saudi Arabia/ Syria get deposed.

    BTW Democrat Johnson escalated the US War in Viet Nam and started a War on Poverty. He lost both. LIBERALISM FAILED

  • Yeah that would be awesome for the stability of the oil prices... you can not seriously support that.

    I wish however that the US would stop supporting the dictatorship in Saudi Arabia, that they didn't overthrow the democracy in Iran, and that there would be a peaceful process that brought about democracy in the middle east.

    Escalating the war is not liberalism, peace and freedom is liberalism. The democratic party is not the same as liberalism. They are corrupted just like the GOP by the IMC.

  • Well according to McSame, the only people who matter are Americans right?

    The fact of the matter is that THIS country's president decides what is best for THIS country first. And we'd be much worse off still in Vietnam...

  • hahahah mcsame

  • Patriots are opposing this bill because it gives the military incentive NOT to re-enlist.

    It is just bad legistlation.

    The democrats haven't presented legistlation supporting the military in twenty years....this is a purely political move....and America aint buying it.

  • I'm buying it.

  • Brlliant

  • how does barack obama sound like osama bin laden? and so what that castro supports him, that doesn't mean that obama is a bad canidate. it just means a bad person supports him

  • ok, so castro supports obama. big deal. how does that effect obamas ability to run this country? it doesn't. Obama is down to earth, good overall and moral person. I have yet to see any lack of integrity in the man. now for the rest of the canidates, I'm sure we can all agree they have lied a few times or more and its all on tape. obama lieing, I have yet to see that.

  • Grow this country??? and he 'grows' this country because hes 'down to earth'. He is one or two steps away from being a card carrying socialist. Obama want to increase capital gains tax & abolish the tax cuts and re-distribute wealrth. ie make thousands of companies pay taxes resluted in thousands of pink slips. I doubt Obama could grown a hot dog stand.

  • yeah, I never said "grow this country." make sure to not be another bill o'reilly and put words in peoples mouths.

    and that is just your opinion that companies will have to fire workers due to tax increases.

  • You've got to be legally retarded or something, the Obama tax plan actually gives more money back to low income and middle income workers. It is high income, super-wealthy, people that make over 2,9 million dollars that will bear a heavier burden.

    And this has nothing to do with the federal corporate tax, on which I've heard him suggest we should add more incremental tax levels, which would result in lower taxes for smaller companies.

    And taxing profit doesn't affect expenditure you moron.

  • government does not create jobs. "Taxing profit does not affect expenditure'??? Nice, try. When 'the Obama {sounds like Osama}takes money from people who earned it and gives money to people who did not earn it it sounds alot like communism to me. And if you havn't noticed, the entire former Soviet block has not embraced capitalism and low corporate taxes. MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Where did I say it should, or that it does? Obama have never proposed such a thing.

    McCain takes money from people who earn it too, he just takes more money from the poor and middle class, while Obama wants to put that burden on the super-wealthy.

    And adding more incremental stages on the corporate tax would lower the burden for small business who have the highest potential for growth. That would open for investment and create more jobs.

    You're a moron... what are you even talking about?

  • We already have the third highest corporate tax rate in the world. Exactly how fast do you want more jobs to be shipped overseas? Do you know that the richest 1% of income earners earn aproximately 18% of the wealth in the USA, yet they pay over 40% of all the income taxes? Yeah, lets tax the rich and successful more, lets tax the successful, lets tax the people that make the economy run and create jobs. Obama is a idiot when it comes to many things, the economy just happens to be one of them.

  • Adding incremental tax stages is not increasing taxes. It's shifting the burden. And small businesses employ 70% of the working population, and have the highest potential for growth, so giving them more back on the profit, and the largest corporations less is just intelligent.

    Rich people don't make the economy run, that is the middle class. Consumption drives the economy, middle and lower class consume more of their income than rich people. Taxing the rich more benefits the entire society.

  • big time liar.

  • AMEN I completly agree he obviously supports him for a reason right? Obama has also had connections with pentigon bomber Williams Ayers, he was also acciated with bernidine dorhn who openly suported the acts and being of Charles Manson

  • so you don't think Obama is an electable canidate because his name sounds similar to another person you don't like. do you have any idea how silly and ridiculous that sounds. maybe you should stop drinking this koolaid that you speak of from fox news. fox news is not fair and is biased, and will take your brain and feed it garbage.

  • Ok parrot. This muslim crap is getting old. I know people with muslim names that are christians and people NAMED Christian who are muslim. Idiot. Being muslim isn't bad just like being Christian isn't bad. When it gets bad is when it goes fundamentalist and extreme. Moron. AND WE'RE 'DEFLECTING'... Stupid topic..

    I'd rather see what Obama wants to do than all the bad that McCain has done and WILL do if he becomes president...

    How about parroting a talking point that matters?.... Keating. Ding!

  • And McCain have? No.

    I'm so tired of hearing this tirade of him being a hero. I don't care what he did in Vietnam, I really don't, not when he has been wrong on so many issues, flip-flopped like a schizophrenic and doesn't know anything about social, economic and military policy.

    I'm sure he was a fine soldier, oh wait.. no.. he wasn't. Only reason he made any progress was because of the military tradition of his family, he finished almost last in his class.

    He'd make a terrible president.

  • So, Bush supports McCain, that is worse.

  • I didnt like McCain's comments, but McCain's stance on the G.I bill is probably what is best for the military and the vets.

  • Liked what Biden said the most. He was my second favorite Dem candidate after Obama.

  • WOW! thank you, as always, Joe Biden, for you consistent straight shooting. I'd love to see you as Obama's VP, sir!

    Peace!

  • McCain was right to go against the Webb bill, at least as of now.The Webb bill would provide $1,900 per month,after a soldier serves the first 36 months.McCain's bill would,although less,pay $1,500 per month,but then rise,to provide incentives for the soldiers to stay in the military.According to one estimate,16% of the soldiers will not reenlist after receiving the new Webb bill.This is terrible considering the way our military is currently stretched.McCains bill will be better in the long run.

  • I think it's at least reasonable to ask whether an unintended consequence will be to increase the need for Stop-Loss orders. However, rather than make the benefits less generous, they might delay the time the funds become available until after we've been able to put the orderly withdrawal from Iraq into effect.

  • Two posters above make good points: the proposed GI Bill offers greater incentive to get out of the military than it does to stay. This would lead to increased manpower deficiencies on top of the bleak recruiting/retention situation already, leading to more stop-loss orders and IRR activations, etc.

    But it doesn't address the root of the problem (unpopular war), or the gross ABUSE of our veterans under the Stop-Loss policy. Congress needs to pass this GI bill, then reinstate the draft.

  • Don't get me wrong, on balance I favor the Webb bill. And I am beyond pissed at the way McCain attacked Obama. As if enlisitng when there is no major war is more important than pitching in to help decimated neighborhoods. I very nearly wrote a letter to the editor of the LA Times about it. I was only saying what I believe is the ONLY substantive issue worth discussing, which is being careful not to unintentionally increase the burden on those already in the field of combat. Doable I think.

  • People aren't reenlisting NOW! So what is the difference? You may as well put out SOME honey to attract people, unless you want to bring the draft back. I served 4 years in the United States Navy, deployed twice, and I have lots of underway time out to sea. With the way we are treated sometimes, we deserve EVERY benefit possible!

  • Mc'Cain is not in favor of the GI bill because he doesn't really care about the veterans! It was a pleasure though to see Cindy dressed modestly today. Hope she keeps it up! A conservative republican nominee's wife should dress in decent clothes and should not pose for fashion magazines!

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