Haha, what idiots those two commentators were at the end. That bridge to nowhere argument doesn't stand anymore. They didn't even have a real reason for liking her. If she were a democrat, man oh man would she get it. And that last commercial was really dumb, too. Whatever. I don't care.
Already been proven the intelligence was cooked. You have no defense. And while some Dems voted for political reasons you can't blame them for believing Bush's lies rather than blame the liar himself.
And Barack always opposed the war- he's smart and principled and that's why we nominated him.
i meant that i don't want a spurious argument made about my opinion of the armed forces. and i wasn't refering to the current administration- their strides to protect or enhance the first ammendment are non-existant. they wasted billions of dollars, and have sacrificed several thousand american lives to their hubris in an invented front of the war on terror. yes, i know why we engaged in this war- on the flimsiest of excuses. and i still haven't seen a shred of proof for 'divine guidance'.
you're not a moderator here, so back up off the hall monitor schtick. if he claims divine inspiration, i can ask for evidence of that. if my comments bother you, leave a thumbs down and move on.
and don't try to play the 'support for the military card' with me pal. nearly every generation of my family has sent soldiers and airmen to a war, and i have plenty of friends in uniform. there have been plenty of others- politicians and statesmen who have likewise defended my constitutional rights.
If approached by a PUMA LIKE RAZDICK, mention the words "Iraq," "winning fair and square," and/or "maybe in 2012″ and they will, according to rumor and latest reports, burst into flames and be reborn again from the ashes of their vindictiveness and callousness.
PUMA's are very dangerous creatures, inhabiting every state and major city. These predators congregate wherever sore losers are found, feasting on the blood of the ill-informed and the apathetic. PUMA's are vicious hunters, usually attacking from behind or underneath their prospective prey.
They are known to be afraid of 47-year-old African-American men, changing the status quo in Washington. blue dresses, and the word "hope." Their demeanor is characterized by bitterness and frenzy.
Majority of Clinton voters are voting McCain and Palin?? Give me the link to where any site or paper or anything says that. Maybe if you would pay attention to Obama when he speaks instead of fingering your cunt to the Sean Hannity poster above your tv, you would know what he stands for. I mean my god...even people that watch Bill O'Reilly ADMIT they know what Obama stands for.
So how high is this unemployment rate gonna go with Republicans in the white house? its already at 6 percent the highest in five years....so with more of the same McCain maybe we can get it up to 10% 15%? All while McCain enjoys a meal at one of his 8 kitchen tables.
Razdick, the only FAILURE is the republican party. They have put this country thru 8 yrs of hell. There is NO WAY AROUND IT. IT IS TIME FOR CHANGE..WE DONT NEED MORE OF THE SAME!!! OBAMA 08 !!!!!!
demliars...Mcacin???? Does he need his diaper changed too???? Is palin going to wipe it for him since she doesnt know what a vp does??? Or is she too busy having events with the Alaska Independence party and with her un-american husband???
Is she going to give the woman a voice? What kind of voice?? A shaky annoying one??? Will there be tasks from God in the message?? Whatever voice it is, it will be heard from Alaska cuz you aint winning this election, Whatever it takes,
One other thing. you liberals have teams of immature faggots that really piss me off.
I have a "First Responders for McCain" sticker on my truck, and my buddy who has done 2 tours in Iraq has a "Veterans for McCain" sticker, and BOTH of them were scratched off our bumpers. what peices of shit you liberals are.
HAve we found the WMD's? Yes, they are in the true threat countries, like pakistan, and eventualy Iran.
When are we winning Iraq? My friend we have kicked more ass than the media shows, trust me. You have no idea because your stuck behind your computer reading tainted newsflahses from CNN, and we will win the war on terror sooner, when you Liberal pussies and hard left bitches get the hell out of the way of progress.
you liberals have teams of immature faggots that really piss me off.
I have a "First Responders for McCain" sticker on my truck, and my buddy who has a "Veterans for McCain" sticker, and BOTH of them were scratched off our bumpers. what peices of shit you liberals are.
I WOULDVE FLIPPED IT & lit that bitch on fire cuz thats how we roll here in the most important swing state of OHIO!!!!
Fuck you and fuck McCain....You WILL NOT win this state!! Whatever it takes!!
Pfft, your more useless trash. Your respect no one. Must be nice living at home with your mom, because thats where most Obama supporters are! ahahahaha losers!
Yeah, you are Obama w/o the veneer of civility and slick packaging- though I will say that too many on both sides revert to the weak, pathetic "F" bomb to strengthen a weak argument, or just overall weak character. NObama in '08, or ever- 40 million dead babies in this country is 40 million too many. McCain/Palin 2008!
uh-oh Clinton is being unleashed Friday....this could get very very interesting considering Obama cant say a word right now without having the sexism card pulled. Very good move by the Obama camp to unleash her. PUT THE BITCH IN HER PLACE PLEASE HILLARY.
I don't dislike Obama (in fact I love his personality), I just am not impressed at all with his record of actual results. Contrast that to McCain & Palin, and it looks even worse.
lol I hate Obama so much. I just didnt understand how a useless ass like him became the presidential nominee for the dems. Then I sat back and remembered that democrats are stupid, mindless, psychopathic, socialist sheep, and realized thats how he got in lol
LMAO I feel the same way about McCain...he's an old ass man that just doesnt get the economy and I just dont understand how being a pow qualifies you to become the Republican nominee. Then I sat back and remembered that Republicans are, stupid, mindless, psychopathic, war monglers, and realized even palin sounds the same.
FACTS: Sara Palin was the FIRST mayor in the history of her little town to hire a City Manager (at $60,000 per year that 5500 residents had to pay for) to manage the town! She couldn't even manage that small hamlet. She also pulled in $27 million of the earmarks she now so opposes and on top of that left a town with no debt when she was elected saddled with $27 million in debt when she left.
FACTS: Sarah Palin ran a state with 15,000 employees, and an $11 billion budget. Biden and Obama run campaign offices. Actually since you are into splitting this hair it cuts both ways. They pay others to run their campaings and senatorial offices. There staffs total around 60 employees and a $4.6 million budget. Obama has not done a thing other than campaign and he is attacking her saying this experience has him better qualified for the office. He is now feeding the debate on who is ready.
Your numbers are bogus and a gross misrepresentaion as usual, but it is of no consequence. As long as Obama and/or his supportes continue to roll in this debate, the more it will undermine his own qualifications. Is that good judgment on Obama's part? It's change you can't be sure of.
Even you have to bend the facts to make them work for you. You combine his senate terms into a 12 year stretch and claim his US senatorial credentials for his entire term. That is dishonest and sophomoricly transparent. When Obama wnt to work as a state senator, palin had already been a Mayor for 3 years. She also has more environmental credentials than either Obama or Biden. Obama has fulfilled none of those responsibilities you mentioned either, as he has been running for POTUS the whole time.
I could also make the argument that Palin's executive experience as govenor of less than 600,000 and mayor of 6,700 gives her more experience than McCain himself and should therefore be the top of the Republic ticket and not the bottom.
Funny, most objective folks get all caught up trying to debate who's more experienced. The GOP's VPOTUS candidate or DNC's POTUS candidate, and the debate finishes up differently each time. It seems debatable either way, but there is no debate whether or not McCain has more experience now. Also, if Donks are saying Palin is not even qualified for VP, how is Obama qualified for POTUS, when their experience is so comparable? This debate only helps the GOP!
Obama ran a charity that made decisions including staffing, budgets, etc. And when he left in 1988 to go to law school, he had grown its budget from $70,000 to $400,000, its staff from 1 to 13 people. More important, he created a job training program for this community and a college prep tutoring program.
Palin doesn't seem to understand the Constitution. Religion should stay out of publicly funded schools. Creationism is not science, folks. Why are supporters of ID so gung ho about it being taught in public schools? Do they think their churches aren't doing a good enough job educating their children about it? Or is it that they just want to cram it down others' throats?
Aha! Force feed Christianity to people! Great... Long live the American Taliban!
Uhhh.... she has left nothing but surplusses and never trust anything on Wickopedia. Everyone knows this except those who depend on falsified news to prompt further investigations. Your data should be sourced by something better.
All you conservatives have had a lot of fun in the last few months spreading half-truths and guilt by association with Rezko & Ayers/Ethnic Clothing/"Terrorist Fist Jabs"/Flag Pins.
Now we get to have some fun with Trooper-Gate/DUI-Husband/$27 M Lobbying Firm/Illegitimate Grandchild/Illegitimate Daughter/Book Banning/PTA experienced/Elopement on a Budget/Felony Record/Nepotismic Hockey Mom/Bridge to nowhere
not much there to have any fun with, but please feel free to weaken your own candidate's credibility by spreading half truths (as you just not only admitted to doing, but managed to justify as well). It is this type of attack that weakens the credibilty of all donks and undermines the obama campaign. You have no issue anywhere in that entire jumble of words you so carefuly regurgitated. Like most donks, you got sucked in to a trap. Why are you attacking this woman again. Standby for backlash.
seriously, you are comparing Edwards to Palin? Maybe I missed it, but I don't see all that much hypocrisy. maybe it's just not an issue that I care about though. Please enlighten me as to which of her positions she has been hypocritical on. I just don't buy her as radical either. She dropped pushing creationism along with evolution (the fact that she wanted both is moderate enough)in schools when she was elected governor as it was more in line with her constituents. Clearly not a hardliner.
I don't think pot is unethical, or that it should be illegal. But I am a progressive, thinking individual, not a radical right, bitchy, born-again "Christian".
If it's not unethical, you don't think it should be illegal, and it's not illegal.... what was your point exactly? For a second there I thought you might actually know her. Seems to me you already have your mind made up. Alaskans have an 80% approval rating of her, I might think they know her better than you. Just me though. Enjoy your pot.
er.. make that 85% approval after today's polls. She can't be all bad can she, or are you just one of those focussing on any negative you can cling onto?
Also, Sarah Palin got more votes running for Mayor back home than Joe Biden got in his entire time as a Donk POTUS candidate in the primaries and caucuses.
75% of Donks in Alaska approve of her. Hello. Would this be the case if she even smelled like a threat to them? Paintinf here as a hard right winger is just silly and shows those who attempt it for what they are.
The point is: she's just another bullshit right wing hypocrite. And I very rarely smoke pot. But I don't mind if other people do- it's their choice.
John Edwards presents a similar case. I don't give a damn if he had a fling. But, given the (obviously fake) image he was attempting to project... I am sure you see the blatant hypocrisy.
In fact, I doubt there's one politician in a hundred who "practice what they preach"- especially the radical right wingers.
seriously, you are comparing Edwards to Palin? Maybe I missed it, but I don't see all that much hypocrisy. maybe it's just not an issue that I care about though. Please enlighten me as to which of her positions she has been hypocritical on. I just don't buy her as radical either. She dropped pushing creationism along with evolution (the fact that she wanted both is moderate enough)in schools when she was elected governor as it was more in line with her constituents. Clearly not a hardliner.
Pretty simple comparison. Edwards paraded as a brave supporter of his wife during her breast cancer ordeal- and turns out he was sleeping around. Palin advocates "family values" -no sex education, no contraception- and her own daughter gets knocked up.
As to what views she had or claims to now have, I trust that about as far as I can throw a piano.
She does not preech for no sex education you dolt. teaching abstinance still teaches you about sex, it simply finishes up with don't do it. You aren't even educated in what you are talking about are you. Go check out their cousre material. They simply put more emphasis on the consequences. pailn, by the way wanted both approaches in Alaskan public schools, not just creationism.
The Republicans have drastically cut funding and other support for sex education. And, as her own case proves, abstinence is... not too effective.
And so-called "Creation Science" is complete bullshit. I believe in God and The Creation, but that's a belief, not science, and it has no place in schools. Period. (I'm also a scientist.)
I'm an agnostic republican, don't lump us all together.. it's stereotypical and politicaly incorrect. This would make you a shoddy progressive. I agree with your views on creation science. I think she relized our shared position and that is why she sacked the idea of it in schools. WHy would any religious leader want their religion tought by a public school? How do you fund each denomination? She dropped it and this clearly proves she is no zealot. Would you consider an engineer a scientist?
* You sound like a centrist Republican, not a far-right Republican.
* Good points about the teaching.
* Of course engineers can be scientists. Engineering is a science. (Example: The theory of beam deflection was first deduced by a Russian railroad bridge designer.)
Not quite, though I weant around my elbow to get there, I said she sacked the idea of teaching creationism in schools, Thus proving that she follows logic before religious conviction when discharges the duties of her office. 75% of DOnks in Alaska approve of and support this woman. I am a moderate life long "Reagan Republican". As a scientist, how do you in God, but not creationism. That is complex I would bet. Can go private if you'd like to discuss the religious aspect. Very interesting.
Sarah Palin was a member of the INDEPENDENT PARTY OF ALASKA whose main platform is secession from the United States. I can't believe I'm saying this, but really, how un-American can you get?
It should be noted that the group of which you speak today withdrew its' claim that Sarah Palin was EVER a member. No doubt you'll have the integrity to check this out and retract your left wing talking point.
Ok sooo the McCain campaign covers it up for her but they arent denying her husband was part of this group and she just stood by and didnt divorce him ? should she not have disassociated herself from this anti-american ?
We also need to know more about her potential abuse of power. Do we really need 4 more years with a new VP that would continue to abuse power as the Bush Administration and Cheney have done for the last 8???
Dude this has been totally debunked. READ more or get out more. Hell, it's on the internet even. CHeck your e-mail or watch tv or something. You got sucked in. the GOP let those things hang until last night. It gets donks all sucked in and then makes them look like fools at the same time reving up the GOP funraisers. Watch McCain's money go way up now. You need to learn how this works and you won't be tricked out so much.
so please explain, do you as well think the IRAQ war was a task from God? Unlike Barack, the words actually came out of her mouth instead of someone elses.
I'm whats known as a reverent agnostic. Read my home page before comming up with such ridiculous questions. If you were religious, a thought like that would go without saying, who are you to judge? You know something about god that I don't? Don't bring this to a theological discussion toolshed, it makes you look even more desparate. There is nothing wrong with anyone believing god chose the path they walk for them. Prove them wrong? It's their right to do that in this country is it not?
THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere.
Oh keep going. Please. Get all of those negative you're "clinging to" out. Then I'll go list her positives and attach about 10 videos you'll hate and what will this do for you? You aren't objective? Have you looked at anything you like about her? Honestly? Your mind was made up about McCain's running mate, before Palin was ever announced. She has you sooo scared and it's funny. Not one issue you have mentioned so far even compares to the things Obama has gotten a pass on. They'll have no effect.
no, really big guy- i would like a direct answer- even as an agnostic, do you see anything that could be divine inspiration in the current administration's choice to go to war ? and if you do, which god delivered this imperative ?
Define devine inspiration. WHo used that word? You may need to lok up what it means to be an agnostic. It means I can't answer the question, but that I believe that nearly anything is possible. Prove it's not. If you understand agnostics you'd know that the "which god" question is a stupid one. Crack a book.
there's no need for me to look it up; i'm quite sure i know what agnostics are as i am one.
i won't go off on a tangent arguing epistemologies with you, but agnosticism don't prohibit you from weighing the evidence of any claims of supernatural influence. or as for the 'which god' question, comparing the evidence to the religions that are out there.
I submit you call yourself an agnostic without knowing what one is. If you did look it up you would know it's a 2 part greek word. "Ag" means not & "nostic" means know. to be agnostic is to not know even as you search for the answers or "weigh" the evidence. As agnostics we are admitting that we cannot prove either the existence of god nor the absence of god. We see no proof. If I knew the answer to you dumbassed question, I would no longer be agnostic now would I?
Agnostic: a 2 part gree word. AG means not, and NOSTIC means know. To be agnostic means to not know. By calling ourseves agnostics, we are saying that we see no proof of any particular religion's existence or otherwise regardless of the evidence we have weighed. To believe that a religion does not exist makes you an Athiest. Are you sure you know what you are? I would point out that if I were to know the answer to that moronic question you just posed, I would no longer be agnostic. I still am.
i don't see how agnosticism prevents someone from saying that one event is more or less likely to be bona fide as supernatural than another. professed doubt does not mean that we cannot compare alleged phenomena with the belief systems claim them for consistency, or as in this case, ask for verification of a supposed religious experience.
also, you may want to study up on the hard distinction between weak and strong agnosticism. i'm done.
Bona fide compared to what? Verification from whom or what source? If you are agnostic, you are looking for proof one way or the other but have found none. Until we have proof, every conclusion we reach is simply an unproven and unprovable assumption unless you have sources exclusive from the rest of the educated world. You are boring me with this tedious crap. You may be the first "so called" agnostic example of religious hypocracy I have seen to date. At least I'm still looking for god.
Out of all the good women in the Republican Party with tangible experience that Juan McCain could have picked, he chose the token drama queen with no experience that abuses power and has an out of control family. It reminds me of the Demwit Party choosing Ferarro. This ticket has bust written all over it! As old as McCain is, there is a very good chance this woman could actually be President. That is too big of a risk!
Secession, now that's change we can.... er... what now. Seriously, I'm ok with "America, love it or leave it," but I'm confused why they didn't pick a running mate who loved it.
Keep it up! I hope these Obama followers keep spreading those moronic smear attempts. It's only helping McCain and Palin by showing what classles people their opponents are.
Don't worry, there's a lot more shit we can pull out on Palin then those lies. She's an awful choice, and there are plenty of reasons for that, just as McCain is a horrible choice for President of the United States.
If this story is true, Palin lied, covered up this story and the irony would be amazing considering she believes in teaching high schoolers abstinance vice birth control. If this is true.
How do you know she is a nympho? Define redneck and explanin how you are better. How does this prove a lack of judgement again or are you just regurgitating someone ele's talking points? Please ellaborate. And PTSD means what to you? Your lack of objectivity and intelligence is astonishing. You also come off as an elitist. Statutory rape requires (in most states) the minor be more than 2 years younger than the adult. These two are 17 & 18. Wow.. never heard of 17/18 year olds messin around!?
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despinapjr 1 year ago
lol palin what a joke. ahahah that backfired like crazy. if hed picked romney it wouldnt have been a blowout.
benyblancofrmthabrnx 1 year ago
OBama IS president SO FUCK you who ever put this up
fighterfang3 3 years ago
bullshit. She supported the "bridge to no where until she saw it was going to lose"
imthebigbadwolf 3 years ago 6
this dumbass is worse than bush, we need Obama/Biden to save the Economy, please don't sell out our great nation.
bign3ck 3 years ago 5
haha, American politics is so funny:)
this women SUCKS!!!
yondergirl83 3 years ago 2
Ya know, I kinda like her EXCEPT for the fact she must be a fool to have accepted the offer to run as VP. Like WTF?
lizzyb24 3 years ago
I can see the ocean from my house. Can I be secretary of the Navy?
ProlefeedTV 3 years ago 2
Haha, what idiots those two commentators were at the end. That bridge to nowhere argument doesn't stand anymore. They didn't even have a real reason for liking her. If she were a democrat, man oh man would she get it. And that last commercial was really dumb, too. Whatever. I don't care.
deburteaga 3 years ago 2
She was just put there so it would attract female voters and McCain is just using her for that.
Chickenwing1313 3 years ago
McFAILIN 0 never'
Tochin 3 years ago
Already been proven the intelligence was cooked. You have no defense. And while some Dems voted for political reasons you can't blame them for believing Bush's lies rather than blame the liar himself.
And Barack always opposed the war- he's smart and principled and that's why we nominated him.
tomsoppe 3 years ago
You said she would slap, not punch. So you must be sexist.
(there a taste of the GOP's own medicine)
tomsoppe 3 years ago
The Republicans had no ideas so they stole Obama's and they are proud of it. Can it get more pathetic?
frigoria 3 years ago
i meant that i don't want a spurious argument made about my opinion of the armed forces. and i wasn't refering to the current administration- their strides to protect or enhance the first ammendment are non-existant. they wasted billions of dollars, and have sacrificed several thousand american lives to their hubris in an invented front of the war on terror. yes, i know why we engaged in this war- on the flimsiest of excuses. and i still haven't seen a shred of proof for 'divine guidance'.
mikebott 3 years ago
That's your opinion, and it's fairly ill-informed.
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
you're not a moderator here, so back up off the hall monitor schtick. if he claims divine inspiration, i can ask for evidence of that. if my comments bother you, leave a thumbs down and move on.
and don't try to play the 'support for the military card' with me pal. nearly every generation of my family has sent soldiers and airmen to a war, and i have plenty of friends in uniform. there have been plenty of others- politicians and statesmen who have likewise defended my constitutional rights.
mikebott 3 years ago
If approached by a PUMA LIKE RAZDICK, mention the words "Iraq," "winning fair and square," and/or "maybe in 2012″ and they will, according to rumor and latest reports, burst into flames and be reborn again from the ashes of their vindictiveness and callousness.
clevelandcrew 3 years ago
PUMA's are very dangerous creatures, inhabiting every state and major city. These predators congregate wherever sore losers are found, feasting on the blood of the ill-informed and the apathetic. PUMA's are vicious hunters, usually attacking from behind or underneath their prospective prey.
They are known to be afraid of 47-year-old African-American men, changing the status quo in Washington. blue dresses, and the word "hope." Their demeanor is characterized by bitterness and frenzy.
clevelandcrew 3 years ago
Majority of Clinton voters are voting McCain and Palin?? Give me the link to where any site or paper or anything says that. Maybe if you would pay attention to Obama when he speaks instead of fingering your cunt to the Sean Hannity poster above your tv, you would know what he stands for. I mean my god...even people that watch Bill O'Reilly ADMIT they know what Obama stands for.
clevelandcrew 3 years ago
So how high is this unemployment rate gonna go with Republicans in the white house? its already at 6 percent the highest in five years....so with more of the same McCain maybe we can get it up to 10% 15%? All while McCain enjoys a meal at one of his 8 kitchen tables.
clevelandcrew 3 years ago
Razdick, the only FAILURE is the republican party. They have put this country thru 8 yrs of hell. There is NO WAY AROUND IT. IT IS TIME FOR CHANGE..WE DONT NEED MORE OF THE SAME!!! OBAMA 08 !!!!!!
clevelandcrew 3 years ago
demliars...Mcacin???? Does he need his diaper changed too???? Is palin going to wipe it for him since she doesnt know what a vp does??? Or is she too busy having events with the Alaska Independence party and with her un-american husband???
clevelandcrew 3 years ago
Palin's the best shes gonna kick obama's ass!! I love her!! GO PALIN!!!!!!!!!!!! Shes gonna give the women and teens of this country a voice
trumpetplayer54ever 3 years ago
Is she going to give the woman a voice? What kind of voice?? A shaky annoying one??? Will there be tasks from God in the message?? Whatever voice it is, it will be heard from Alaska cuz you aint winning this election, Whatever it takes,
No way, no how, no McSame.
Ohio 4 Obama 08!!!
clevelandcrew 3 years ago
One other thing. you liberals have teams of immature faggots that really piss me off.
I have a "First Responders for McCain" sticker on my truck, and my buddy who has done 2 tours in Iraq has a "Veterans for McCain" sticker, and BOTH of them were scratched off our bumpers. what peices of shit you liberals are.
McCain 08
The2ndAmendmentGuy 3 years ago
Have you found the WMD's yet? What exactly are we "winning" in Iraq?
ride446 3 years ago
HAve we found the WMD's? Yes, they are in the true threat countries, like pakistan, and eventualy Iran.
When are we winning Iraq? My friend we have kicked more ass than the media shows, trust me. You have no idea because your stuck behind your computer reading tainted newsflahses from CNN, and we will win the war on terror sooner, when you Liberal pussies and hard left bitches get the hell out of the way of progress.
The2ndAmendmentGuy 3 years ago
Guess who WON the election!
ride446 3 years ago
LMAO..the2ndamendment wrote:
you liberals have teams of immature faggots that really piss me off.
I have a "First Responders for McCain" sticker on my truck, and my buddy who has a "Veterans for McCain" sticker, and BOTH of them were scratched off our bumpers. what peices of shit you liberals are.
I WOULDVE FLIPPED IT & lit that bitch on fire cuz thats how we roll here in the most important swing state of OHIO!!!!
Fuck you and fuck McCain....You WILL NOT win this state!! Whatever it takes!!
clevelandcrew 3 years ago
Pfft, your more useless trash. Your respect no one. Must be nice living at home with your mom, because thats where most Obama supporters are! ahahahaha losers!
Mccain 08!
The2ndAmendmentGuy 3 years ago
Yeah, you are Obama w/o the veneer of civility and slick packaging- though I will say that too many on both sides revert to the weak, pathetic "F" bomb to strengthen a weak argument, or just overall weak character. NObama in '08, or ever- 40 million dead babies in this country is 40 million too many. McCain/Palin 2008!
WryTwingR 3 years ago
uh-oh Clinton is being unleashed Friday....this could get very very interesting considering Obama cant say a word right now without having the sexism card pulled. Very good move by the Obama camp to unleash her. PUT THE BITCH IN HER PLACE PLEASE HILLARY.
clevelandcrew 3 years ago
I don't dislike Obama (in fact I love his personality), I just am not impressed at all with his record of actual results. Contrast that to McCain & Palin, and it looks even worse.
NoLawyers4President 3 years ago
lol I hate Obama so much. I just didnt understand how a useless ass like him became the presidential nominee for the dems. Then I sat back and remembered that democrats are stupid, mindless, psychopathic, socialist sheep, and realized thats how he got in lol
The2ndAmendmentGuy 3 years ago
LMAO I feel the same way about McCain...he's an old ass man that just doesnt get the economy and I just dont understand how being a pow qualifies you to become the Republican nominee. Then I sat back and remembered that Republicans are, stupid, mindless, psychopathic, war monglers, and realized even palin sounds the same.
BUSH = PALIN ...MORE OF THE SAME
clevelandcrew 3 years ago
So how exactly, does Obama know more about the economy than McCain? Obama is a noob to everything. hes a joke
McCain-Palin 08
The2ndAmendmentGuy 3 years ago
True that
Same with Cindy Lou
SJamesGray 3 years ago
you pick one. Either way Mcain's qualifying experiences and qualities are clearly no longer in question compared to either.
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
So while Obama was helping to get people jobs and get themselves out of poverty. Sara Palin was a pageant girl...
clevelandcrew 3 years ago
FACTS: Sara Palin was the FIRST mayor in the history of her little town to hire a City Manager (at $60,000 per year that 5500 residents had to pay for) to manage the town! She couldn't even manage that small hamlet. She also pulled in $27 million of the earmarks she now so opposes and on top of that left a town with no debt when she was elected saddled with $27 million in debt when she left.
clevelandcrew 3 years ago
FACTS: Sarah Palin ran a state with 15,000 employees, and an $11 billion budget. Biden and Obama run campaign offices. Actually since you are into splitting this hair it cuts both ways. They pay others to run their campaings and senatorial offices. There staffs total around 60 employees and a $4.6 million budget. Obama has not done a thing other than campaign and he is attacking her saying this experience has him better qualified for the office. He is now feeding the debate on who is ready.
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
Your numbers are bogus and a gross misrepresentaion as usual, but it is of no consequence. As long as Obama and/or his supportes continue to roll in this debate, the more it will undermine his own qualifications. Is that good judgment on Obama's part? It's change you can't be sure of.
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
WWJD? He'd organize the community.
WWSPD? She'd say, "Thanks, but no thanks."
clevelandcrew 3 years ago
Even you have to bend the facts to make them work for you. You combine his senate terms into a 12 year stretch and claim his US senatorial credentials for his entire term. That is dishonest and sophomoricly transparent. When Obama wnt to work as a state senator, palin had already been a Mayor for 3 years. She also has more environmental credentials than either Obama or Biden. Obama has fulfilled none of those responsibilities you mentioned either, as he has been running for POTUS the whole time.
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
I could also make the argument that Palin's executive experience as govenor of less than 600,000 and mayor of 6,700 gives her more experience than McCain himself and should therefore be the top of the Republic ticket and not the bottom.
So please, don't spin the facts.
clevelandcrew 3 years ago
Funny, most objective folks get all caught up trying to debate who's more experienced. The GOP's VPOTUS candidate or DNC's POTUS candidate, and the debate finishes up differently each time. It seems debatable either way, but there is no debate whether or not McCain has more experience now. Also, if Donks are saying Palin is not even qualified for VP, how is Obama qualified for POTUS, when their experience is so comparable? This debate only helps the GOP!
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
Obama ran a charity that made decisions including staffing, budgets, etc. And when he left in 1988 to go to law school, he had grown its budget from $70,000 to $400,000, its staff from 1 to 13 people. More important, he created a job training program for this community and a college prep tutoring program.
clevelandcrew 3 years ago
Palin doesn't seem to understand the Constitution. Religion should stay out of publicly funded schools. Creationism is not science, folks. Why are supporters of ID so gung ho about it being taught in public schools? Do they think their churches aren't doing a good enough job educating their children about it? Or is it that they just want to cram it down others' throats?
Aha! Force feed Christianity to people! Great... Long live the American Taliban!
(the pargraph above is sarcastic)
Trillidotia 3 years ago
CHRISTIAN JIHAD ON YOU PEOPLE!
BoOyaH1388 3 years ago
Palin also came into Wasilla with zero debt and left them with $22 million in debt. Haven't we had 8 years of that?
gramatoncleric2105 3 years ago
where did you get this info. from?
jawad2082 3 years ago
it was on wikipedia earlier,now it has been edited out since the page is under dispute.
gramatoncleric2105 3 years ago
information needs documentation
jawad2082 3 years ago
You are absolutely right.a similar comment is at the bottom of the page.
gramatoncleric2105 3 years ago
Uhhh.... she has left nothing but surplusses and never trust anything on Wickopedia. Everyone knows this except those who depend on falsified news to prompt further investigations. Your data should be sourced by something better.
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
FOX NEWS....WE DECEIVE YOU BELIEVE!
merylrox22 3 years ago
All you conservatives have had a lot of fun in the last few months spreading half-truths and guilt by association with Rezko & Ayers/Ethnic Clothing/"Terrorist Fist Jabs"/Flag Pins.
Now we get to have some fun with Trooper-Gate/DUI-Husband/$27 M Lobbying Firm/Illegitimate Grandchild/Illegitimate Daughter/Book Banning/PTA experienced/Elopement on a Budget/Felony Record/Nepotismic Hockey Mom/Bridge to nowhere
It seems you are about to reap what you sow.
clevelandcrew 3 years ago
not much there to have any fun with, but please feel free to weaken your own candidate's credibility by spreading half truths (as you just not only admitted to doing, but managed to justify as well). It is this type of attack that weakens the credibilty of all donks and undermines the obama campaign. You have no issue anywhere in that entire jumble of words you so carefuly regurgitated. Like most donks, you got sucked in to a trap. Why are you attacking this woman again. Standby for backlash.
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
Obama supports the troops in iraq bring me and my brothers home Obama 08
canibus26177 3 years ago
seriously, you are comparing Edwards to Palin? Maybe I missed it, but I don't see all that much hypocrisy. maybe it's just not an issue that I care about though. Please enlighten me as to which of her positions she has been hypocritical on. I just don't buy her as radical either. She dropped pushing creationism along with evolution (the fact that she wanted both is moderate enough)in schools when she was elected governor as it was more in line with her constituents. Clearly not a hardliner.
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
"ethics reforms"????
Alaska brags about legal pot.
stone1home 3 years ago
is pot unethical now as well? holy shit. is alchohol ethical because it is legal?
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
I don't think pot is unethical, or that it should be illegal. But I am a progressive, thinking individual, not a radical right, bitchy, born-again "Christian".
stone1home 3 years ago
If it's not unethical, you don't think it should be illegal, and it's not illegal.... what was your point exactly? For a second there I thought you might actually know her. Seems to me you already have your mind made up. Alaskans have an 80% approval rating of her, I might think they know her better than you. Just me though. Enjoy your pot.
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
er.. make that 85% approval after today's polls. She can't be all bad can she, or are you just one of those focussing on any negative you can cling onto?
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
Also, Sarah Palin got more votes running for Mayor back home than Joe Biden got in his entire time as a Donk POTUS candidate in the primaries and caucuses.
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
75% of Donks in Alaska approve of her. Hello. Would this be the case if she even smelled like a threat to them? Paintinf here as a hard right winger is just silly and shows those who attempt it for what they are.
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
The point is: she's just another bullshit right wing hypocrite. And I very rarely smoke pot. But I don't mind if other people do- it's their choice.
John Edwards presents a similar case. I don't give a damn if he had a fling. But, given the (obviously fake) image he was attempting to project... I am sure you see the blatant hypocrisy.
In fact, I doubt there's one politician in a hundred who "practice what they preach"- especially the radical right wingers.
stone1home 3 years ago
seriously, you are comparing Edwards to Palin? Maybe I missed it, but I don't see all that much hypocrisy. maybe it's just not an issue that I care about though. Please enlighten me as to which of her positions she has been hypocritical on. I just don't buy her as radical either. She dropped pushing creationism along with evolution (the fact that she wanted both is moderate enough)in schools when she was elected governor as it was more in line with her constituents. Clearly not a hardliner.
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
Pretty simple comparison. Edwards paraded as a brave supporter of his wife during her breast cancer ordeal- and turns out he was sleeping around. Palin advocates "family values" -no sex education, no contraception- and her own daughter gets knocked up.
As to what views she had or claims to now have, I trust that about as far as I can throw a piano.
stone1home 3 years ago
She does not preech for no sex education you dolt. teaching abstinance still teaches you about sex, it simply finishes up with don't do it. You aren't even educated in what you are talking about are you. Go check out their cousre material. They simply put more emphasis on the consequences. pailn, by the way wanted both approaches in Alaskan public schools, not just creationism.
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
The Republicans have drastically cut funding and other support for sex education. And, as her own case proves, abstinence is... not too effective.
And so-called "Creation Science" is complete bullshit. I believe in God and The Creation, but that's a belief, not science, and it has no place in schools. Period. (I'm also a scientist.)
stone1home 3 years ago
I'm an agnostic republican, don't lump us all together.. it's stereotypical and politicaly incorrect. This would make you a shoddy progressive. I agree with your views on creation science. I think she relized our shared position and that is why she sacked the idea of it in schools. WHy would any religious leader want their religion tought by a public school? How do you fund each denomination? She dropped it and this clearly proves she is no zealot. Would you consider an engineer a scientist?
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
Hi.
* You wrote that she sacked evolution?
* You sound like a centrist Republican, not a far-right Republican.
* Good points about the teaching.
* Of course engineers can be scientists. Engineering is a science. (Example: The theory of beam deflection was first deduced by a Russian railroad bridge designer.)
stone1home 3 years ago
Not quite, though I weant around my elbow to get there, I said she sacked the idea of teaching creationism in schools, Thus proving that she follows logic before religious conviction when discharges the duties of her office. 75% of DOnks in Alaska approve of and support this woman. I am a moderate life long "Reagan Republican". As a scientist, how do you in God, but not creationism. That is complex I would bet. Can go private if you'd like to discuss the religious aspect. Very interesting.
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
Sarah Palin was a member of the INDEPENDENT PARTY OF ALASKA whose main platform is secession from the United States. I can't believe I'm saying this, but really, how un-American can you get?
clevelandcrew 3 years ago
It should be noted that the group of which you speak today withdrew its' claim that Sarah Palin was EVER a member. No doubt you'll have the integrity to check this out and retract your left wing talking point.
complawyer 3 years ago
Ok sooo the McCain campaign covers it up for her but they arent denying her husband was part of this group and she just stood by and didnt divorce him ? should she not have disassociated herself from this anti-american ?
We also need to know more about her potential abuse of power. Do we really need 4 more years with a new VP that would continue to abuse power as the Bush Administration and Cheney have done for the last 8???
clevelandcrew 3 years ago
Dude this has been totally debunked. READ more or get out more. Hell, it's on the internet even. CHeck your e-mail or watch tv or something. You got sucked in. the GOP let those things hang until last night. It gets donks all sucked in and then makes them look like fools at the same time reving up the GOP funraisers. Watch McCain's money go way up now. You need to learn how this works and you won't be tricked out so much.
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
so please explain, do you as well think the IRAQ war was a task from God? Unlike Barack, the words actually came out of her mouth instead of someone elses.
clevelandcrew 3 years ago
I'm whats known as a reverent agnostic. Read my home page before comming up with such ridiculous questions. If you were religious, a thought like that would go without saying, who are you to judge? You know something about god that I don't? Don't bring this to a theological discussion toolshed, it makes you look even more desparate. There is nothing wrong with anyone believing god chose the path they walk for them. Prove them wrong? It's their right to do that in this country is it not?
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere.
clevelandcrew 3 years ago
Oh keep going. Please. Get all of those negative you're "clinging to" out. Then I'll go list her positives and attach about 10 videos you'll hate and what will this do for you? You aren't objective? Have you looked at anything you like about her? Honestly? Your mind was made up about McCain's running mate, before Palin was ever announced. She has you sooo scared and it's funny. Not one issue you have mentioned so far even compares to the things Obama has gotten a pass on. They'll have no effect.
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
no, really big guy- i would like a direct answer- even as an agnostic, do you see anything that could be divine inspiration in the current administration's choice to go to war ? and if you do, which god delivered this imperative ?
mikebott 3 years ago
Define devine inspiration. WHo used that word? You may need to lok up what it means to be an agnostic. It means I can't answer the question, but that I believe that nearly anything is possible. Prove it's not. If you understand agnostics you'd know that the "which god" question is a stupid one. Crack a book.
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
there's no need for me to look it up; i'm quite sure i know what agnostics are as i am one.
i won't go off on a tangent arguing epistemologies with you, but agnosticism don't prohibit you from weighing the evidence of any claims of supernatural influence. or as for the 'which god' question, comparing the evidence to the religions that are out there.
mikebott 3 years ago
I submit you call yourself an agnostic without knowing what one is. If you did look it up you would know it's a 2 part greek word. "Ag" means not & "nostic" means know. to be agnostic is to not know even as you search for the answers or "weigh" the evidence. As agnostics we are admitting that we cannot prove either the existence of god nor the absence of god. We see no proof. If I knew the answer to you dumbassed question, I would no longer be agnostic now would I?
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
Agnostic: a 2 part gree word. AG means not, and NOSTIC means know. To be agnostic means to not know. By calling ourseves agnostics, we are saying that we see no proof of any particular religion's existence or otherwise regardless of the evidence we have weighed. To believe that a religion does not exist makes you an Athiest. Are you sure you know what you are? I would point out that if I were to know the answer to that moronic question you just posed, I would no longer be agnostic. I still am.
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
i don't see how agnosticism prevents someone from saying that one event is more or less likely to be bona fide as supernatural than another. professed doubt does not mean that we cannot compare alleged phenomena with the belief systems claim them for consistency, or as in this case, ask for verification of a supposed religious experience.
also, you may want to study up on the hard distinction between weak and strong agnosticism. i'm done.
mikebott 3 years ago
Bona fide compared to what? Verification from whom or what source? If you are agnostic, you are looking for proof one way or the other but have found none. Until we have proof, every conclusion we reach is simply an unproven and unprovable assumption unless you have sources exclusive from the rest of the educated world. You are boring me with this tedious crap. You may be the first "so called" agnostic example of religious hypocracy I have seen to date. At least I'm still looking for god.
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
I wouldn't bet on any retraction. I doubt you are speaking with the personification of objectivity or intellectual honesty.
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
er... perhaps you should check your e-mail. That was a bogus report and had been retracted. Sounded cool though didn't it?
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
Nooo the report on her husband has not been retracted....and yes it does sound VERY UN-AMERICAN.
EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS WOMAN IS CORRUPT..
clevelandcrew 3 years ago
EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS WOMAN IS CORRUPT..
Can you say hyperbole? get a grip!
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago 3
How's that abstinence and no sex-ed working for ya, family values people? Ha Ha Ha~
unsee1ie 3 years ago 2
Out of all the good women in the Republican Party with tangible experience that Juan McCain could have picked, he chose the token drama queen with no experience that abuses power and has an out of control family. It reminds me of the Demwit Party choosing Ferarro. This ticket has bust written all over it! As old as McCain is, there is a very good chance this woman could actually be President. That is too big of a risk!
runningchance 3 years ago
Religious extremist, all abortion illegal , against contraception, teach creationism, against sex education
Denies humans cause global warming. drill for polluting oil. Remove Polar Bears from the endangered list, cruel aerial hunting of wolves and bears.
Supported the bridge to nowhere, then lied about it.
Wants Alaska to separate from the United States, infiltrate political parties.
And she could be our president, Chilling.
Elderberry4 3 years ago
Religious extremist, all abortion illegal , against contraception, teach creationism, against sex education
Denies humans cause global warming. drill for polluting oil. Remove Polar Bears from the endangered list, cruel aerial hunting of wolves and bears.
Supported the bridge to nowhere, then lied about it.
Wants Alaska to separate from the United States, infiltrate political parties.
Elderberry4 3 years ago
Secession, now that's change we can.... er... what now. Seriously, I'm ok with "America, love it or leave it," but I'm confused why they didn't pick a running mate who loved it.
flyboi4u 3 years ago
This woman couldn't even slap her brother-in-law. The only crack in the ceiling she cares about is the kind she can smoke. Moose eating nut.
But her daughter is hot. I would have knocked her up, too. Mmmm... thick, moose meat fed tits. lol
naturalmystic33 3 years ago
Uh, more like Goerge W. in a dress, which is why she is being so well recieved by the rightwingnuts.
73ohjohnnyboy73 3 years ago
Kind of knocks the "not experienced enough" words out of John's mouth, though. Donchathink???
bugabudon 3 years ago
What a liar she is
drewvonnie 3 years ago
Keep it up! I hope these Obama followers keep spreading those moronic smear attempts. It's only helping McCain and Palin by showing what classles people their opponents are.
omgomg53 3 years ago
Don't worry, there's a lot more shit we can pull out on Palin then those lies. She's an awful choice, and there are plenty of reasons for that, just as McCain is a horrible choice for President of the United States.
Thugmunk 3 years ago
Dude.. I don't know if you got the memo .. but she admited the baby is her daughters.. so she lied.. sorry .. cats out of the bag
naturerockgirl25 3 years ago
Like they say abaxteria, it takes one to know one.
rdemarco1956 3 years ago
Ouch!
abaxteria 3 years ago
Check out the story and pictures on Daily Kos.
Abaxteria, like they say it takes one to know one.
rdemarco1956 3 years ago
yes yes vote for republicans again.. sink this country yes.
piratatrillo 3 years ago
If this story is true, Palin lied, covered up this story and the irony would be amazing considering she believes in teaching high schoolers abstinance vice birth control. If this is true.
Zona992006 3 years ago
When the news media break the news in the next few days.
That is just another republican liar. John McCain will be toast.
Sarah Palin is not the mother of Trig, her Daugther is the mother.
rdemarco1956 3 years ago
What lie do you reference? And why would you think Trig is her grandson? That smacks of daily-pot-smoker logic to me.
abaxteria 3 years ago
hes just jealous that liberal scum loses again. He knows shes pro life and gonna smash liberals faces.
automaticAEV 3 years ago
Just do a google on the subject, or check out the story on
the Daily Kos.
And like they say, it takes one to know one.
rdemarco1956 3 years ago
pot smokers don't have gaps in logic that big.
not that I would know.
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
rdemarco1956, could you please show me some proof of this? Did you just try to use the Daily Kos as a source of credible information?
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago
The little Nympho is Pregnant though right? By that son of a bitchin redneck. He should be arrested for Statutory rape.
Has for your Great Great Grand daddy McCain.
His pick of her shows his lack of Judgement. Just like Bush
with the Iraq War, Katrina "Heck of a job Brownie" and
on and on.
He is unfit to serve the highest office. Because of his
Reckless decisions and bad temperment. He was also a POW which means he more then likely suffers from P.T.S.D..
rdemarco1956 3 years ago
How do you know she is a nympho? Define redneck and explanin how you are better. How does this prove a lack of judgement again or are you just regurgitating someone ele's talking points? Please ellaborate. And PTSD means what to you? Your lack of objectivity and intelligence is astonishing. You also come off as an elitist. Statutory rape requires (in most states) the minor be more than 2 years younger than the adult. These two are 17 & 18. Wow.. never heard of 17/18 year olds messin around!?
ESSAYONSMFER 3 years ago