this guy is a bit of a fool all he is thinks about is the long term horizon of course the dollar is dead in the long term. the debt cartel would mark to market their asset and wount come to tell the truth about there liabilities until they have position themselves to have a large enough stake in real assets. Also why doesnt he acknowledge credit as a form of money (currency) which it is and probable one of the biggest contrubuter to the velocity of money. No government what a joker.
18:25 Keiser: "It's not the government that's the problem, it's the banks..."
Sure, it's the banks that run 1.5 trillion dollar deficits. It's the banks that created the Federal Reserve so as to finance wars and those deficits.
Central Banks are a government creation. A central bank cannot exist without a government creating it. Central bank Keynesianism is government policy, not individual banks trying to make a buck.
@Panpiper Yes, bad central bank policy does advantage bankers and speculators to the detriment of everyone else, but the problem is 'caused' by the central bank enacting Keynesian, government policy. The problem is not caused by the individual banks. The profits of the individual banks are a 'symptom', not a cause.
The government is not just the 'referee', the government has written the rules of the game. And it has written those rules specifically so as to advantage the government and the wealthiest of bankers and speculators, at the expense of everyone else. The problem was 'created' by the government. This is all the result of deliberate policy, policy of the government! To eat the bankers without addressing the one who has written the rules is sheer insanity.
No, no, no! Google: Wall Street Isn't Winning – It's Cheating. Then Google OccuptMarines. You're trying to make me believe OccupyMarines are communist? It's not about "more" laws. It's about upholding the friggin laws that "already exist". Last time I checked thievery is already illegal in America. Rigging the stock market is already illegal in America. Monopolies that are to big to fail are already illegal in America. ALL THESES LAWS ALREADY EXIST, but no one is applying them!!!!! *&(%^%^&
1) I am not a Zietgiester, they have some stuff right but also make some serious errors.
2) I do not engage in "debate" with those who forever and always want to be confrontational rather than seek truth, it's a waste of my time. I do not believe that you have any genuine interest in anarchic theory but just want to bash any ideas put forward. Maybe I'm wrong but there are plenty of sources out there for the truly curious. Namely, Rothbard on the right and Chomsky on the left.
Nothing wrong or illegal about being a communist or liberal.
Problem is the entire world is either extreme rightwing or wishywashy middle-of-the-road. True liberals and true radicals support war against the corporations stealing all our money and resources, war against corporate welfare, war to free all prisoners over trivial crimes like spitting on a cop or hitting a cop, war to outlaw human overpopulation and breeding, war against factory farming.
More proof the Austrian school doesn't know what the hell it's talking about. This is stagflation, not inflation. The price of assets (esp. housing) is drastically decreasing, not increasing. Printing money isn't the issue, trying to flood insolvent banks with money is.
People who reproduce themselves ought to be forced to give up all property rights, because they now force conditions on their kids who are forced to leave their parents' home when they turn 18 and find a job and a home of their own. But that necessarily impacts and forces constraints on those already there and THEIR private property. So, you either allow people to fight and (if necessary) kill to survive and live well and NOT arrest them for "murder" or "theft", or outlaw having kids.
Lol "regulation". Max is a caring human being as evidenced by his passion and obvious disgust at the crimes perpetrated against tax payers, at civilian casualties etc...but his philosophical limitations are on full display here. The Idea that you have the RIGHT to things like a guaranteed return on savings is fucking ludicrous. Wanna save? THEN SAVE. If it weren't for the veneer of a legitimacy the govt gives banks et al, almost NO ONE would risk the fruits of their labour in these entities.
you start with a psychopathic idea: enforcement of "laws" in an arbitrarily defined area with the threat of violence, that is funded by wealth extracted also with the threat of violence, and you will end with psychopathic results: billionaires extracting wealth at the point of a financial gun. Its not rocket science,unless I've harmed someone else, you have no right to tell me what to do on my property or that of a fellow freeman. If that simple principle eludes you, you may have downs syndrome.
Every country subjugated another country to get a grip of specif resources to feed it's economy. These economic machines have indulges the populations with resources not produced on their terrain. When those resources are no longer available nations will look for the scarce resources. And continue the military buildups etc. That why all economic models need to shift into something new.
For example Texas doesn't have water so is Mexico going to be exporting water? Or India who has no source of water? Are they to invade another country to get hold of that water supply for it's population? We need to construct new economies that are environmentalist in nature
The world resources are being devoured and for that reason are becoming fewer. We have to change the economic machines for the common interest of each nation not just one. If we continue on this path we are all heading into a collision course. Nuclear perhaps? But eventually it will lead to more wars and unrest.
That branch should included people from all walks of life,teachers, students,doctors to have a say in their democracy. But I also agree in government oversite. Like the Cuban model. But I believe it most be democratically ruled by the poor. It most be banned any elites to run for office. Remove a debt based society and shift all world economies to a communal societies.
I still maintain we need to go further - do everything you recommend - but ALSO outlaw human reproduction -at least until life is fair and the world is not overpopulated with humans - by mandating vasectomies of males.
It was because of free capital that banks and financial firms did this to America today. Deregulation. And I understand that government can become corrupt like what we see in the US. With banks who have hijacked the little democracy the people have had. That why I purpose a 4th branch of government by the people to influence all other branches.
Jeff "I´m an Anarchist"..."(Max Kaiser) Well, that´s all the time we have", talk about self-censorship,"We need a referee", We never had a Referre per se, the banks are a goverment creation, they wouldnt exist, as of today, if it hasnt for the state. What the bankers want is you to go crie for mommy goverment for help, what they dont realise is that the banks are goverments(Mom´s) sugar daddy.
"Government is just a fancy word to describe the things we as a community do together"
Not really,government is a group of individuals who claim the moral authority and duty to initiate violence against legally disarmed citizens within a certain geographical region, i.e., a monopoly on the initiation of violence. This is reality, I don't know where you live. It is morally wrong to use violence against peaceful people, sorry you do not see it this way.
Stunning, the misconceptions about anarchic principles here. MAX, if you're going to pick on anarchy you need to get someone more articulate on here, like Molyneux. I know you've interviewed him before but these topics did not come up. Hmmmm...
@viehe69 im so tired of this 10 year-old-brain anarchists
is it so hard to understand that people are animals? those who have guns will kill and steal from the rest, its our instincts, study prehistory and then evolution to understand that no changes have occured or are you suggesting to get rid of all the guns, cause that would be equally ludacris
I'm not saying anything except that this guy is not the best advocate of anarchic principles. Just understand that anarchy does not imply lawlessness, that is pure propaganda. It ONLY means no involuntary hierarchies. It does not mean an absence of rules, it means that the same rules apply for all. The situation today is one where the morality for rulers is exactly opposite to that of the ruled. We shouldn't steal, they MUST steal. We shouldn't murder, they MUST murder. etc, etc, etc
@cardplayer07 Statists. It doesn't matter if it's left or right. Communists are as bad as fascists. So perhaps some folks may have terminology off, the principles remain.
@Rustyshackleford08@Rustyshackleford08 Yes because the 60 million killed in ww2 and the 1 million in Rwanda and the 1 million in Iraq were all killed by Anarchism. Oh wait government, government and government. And that's why the Amazonian natives and San people of the Kalahari regularly slaughter each other without the ever present influence of government in their lives...thanks for playing. Sorry bud, Nothing makes mass killing easier than disarmed tax animals funding an enforced hierarchy.
Without any kind of law and order someone could just kill you and they could just walk. Anarchy is just that ANARCHY, you would end up someones slave or whatever. It would be like Mad Max, a real government thats not bought off would be nice but its the peoples fault for being so ignorant we are in the situation we are in. Too much tv.
@SynapticTransmission Who's going to stop you from breaking the laws? Who picks the laws? Who makes the rules? I don't see how you could NOT end up with another leadership.
@SynapticTransmission on an abstract level its still a paradox, someone has to make the laws and they would have to be considered rulers. Even if 99% of the population worked to gather to create the laws and all agreed with them they would still be "ruling" the 1%.
@Rustyshackleford08 Once I'm dead I don't give a crap if the guy is caught or not. Ive never understood this obsession with punishing people. The only goal worth a damn is prevention...and with 15,000 murders per year in the US alone I'm not sure how much the fear of the law is worth. The US incarcerates more people than any other country in the world and certainly doesn't have the lowest crime rate. Its not your fault. You've just been fed Statism your whole life.Its the only Language you know.
"We're grateful to media whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would've been impossible for us to implement our NWO if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto determination practiced in past centuries."
This just highlights how important it is to elect politicians who have a high moral compass and strong policical will, who follow and make good on "Good Laws" and reject the seductive powers of greed and corruption.
Jeff is correct Max, the Government, Bankers and Corporations are "The Same Thing". This whole mess has occurred because Government Officials have been seduced (Through Financial kickbacks) to do the bidding of Bankers and Corporations. If Political Will had prevailed, none of this would have been possible. I think it is a falsity to think that we need to simply focus on the wrong doing of the Bankers and expect the Government to be the Umpire that sets things straight.
I'm not advocating the removal of the Umpire, because that would insinuate we still had one. It is pretty obvious that the Umpire has defected to the Bankers Team making any chance of victory for the peasants impossible. So in short, this is a disease that has been allowed to enter, spread and thrive due to an astonishing lack of political will.
The capitalists are so dishonest in their argument. Everyone good they say is capitalism. Everything bad is "corporatism". If you had to sum up capitalism, it's the belief that individual greed benefits society as a whole. That has never been adequately proven.
The banks, corporations, and capitalism are to blame.
Yeah, bro except this isn't capitalism. This is corporatism.
Well what's the difference? They're both a system of greed except it's not the individual but a group of money interests.
@harveybirdmannequin Ummm...it's just isn't ok. Fine be that way. As long as we get those banks and corporations that control the gov't. Whoa, buddy. Let's not attack the banks and corporations. After all it's the gov't that's bad. But you just said- Gov't bad. But you just said that banks and corporations control the gov't bad. Gov't bad. What? GOV'T BAD!!!! OK! We'll do it your way. Gov't is gone. What do we do about those banks and corporations that are still here? Believe in the free market.
So you're saying if the rich people or "the market" doesn't have a use for us or is actively trying to kill us we should just lie down and die?
Do you not believe in the market, friend? Do you not trust in the market's infinite wisdom? The market knows what it is doing.
So you're not even going to try and fight back?
The market blesses those it deems worthy with money. We don't have money. We are not worthy. We should be grateful the market has let us lived this long.
Trying to kill you? Fight back? "The Market" isn't some singular, anthropomorphized entity with thoughts and desires of it's own. You sound like a crazy person.
If Berwick is going to support anarchism he needs to be a little more articulate about what that means because he sounds like somebody that needs to learn some farming, not TV commentary....Like he hasn't really thought about it at all.
These capitalists bash gov't saying it's "freedom" and honestly believe they are helping the poor.
Ok. Destroy gov't. That's the fastest way the poor mobs will kill you and take your property. They only want gov't to protect the moneyed interests. See, they don't say anything bad about the police holding back the Occupy Whatever movement. Without the police those protesters would have looted the place. Oh but the capitalists like that form of coercive force because it protects the money.
These "capitalists/libertarians" think they are rugged individuals. Oh look at me I have a gun. I can fight back against anyone who tries to take MAH MOE NAY.
Yeah well the mob can have guns too. Also try surviving on your own. Imagine how much effort it would take to be truly self sufficient.
We need to drop these capitalists into lawless countries see how long they survive. They would love it. Put them in some city in Mexico. No gov't. Just druglords.
The interviewed guy reminds me of the old communists saying "Well...communism failed because it wasn't the real original one" ".
Fair enough.
The point is that communism in its original shape was utopian and the same is true for free market tout court. You need a solution in the middle. An example is Scandinavian countries. It can work though only if there is no massive immigration and if there is some Protestant like ethic of work.
I think it's says a great deal when you have two experts [who to me seem to be from different schools of thought] know the system is unsustainable. I'm extremely sceptical of the idea that government is the problem and the notion that it was regulation caused the economic crisis.
I'm happy to say I'm not completely in favour of capitalism and the financial system. but it is clear that the system we have is definitley not a free market system.
Keiser really has no clue. Gvt is no referee:they take your money through force and give it to your enemy. If they were not there, you would not be forced to fund your enemies, end of problem.
As long as you support a guy with special coercive privileges because he has a uniform, this weak point will be the attacked by the most capable lobbiest and they will always win from Joe six pack. Like parasites attacking a hole in your skin. Control the gvt and you control the populous,it's a hole.
@modelmark Max is very knowledgeable, however the fact that he can't quite seem to realize the true problem which is government frustrates me as well. Maybe someday he'll see things the Anarcho-capitalist way. Love your point though
The FED will buy the gvt debt and the gvt will spend it into the economy for bailouts and crony friends. It does not matter if banks are unwilling to lend. half a billion to Solyndra and it is gone, spent, out there competing for goods and services.
Max needs to get Steve Keen back on to explain the difference between "stocks" and "flows"-- total "money supply" in a system is not restricted to the "stocks" available, but also depends how fast it is "flowing"
But people who bought into the "barter economy" myth-- and can't/won't distinguish between commodity money like gold/silver vs credit/currency money -- tend to think of money as something physical which follows the law of conservation of energy.
Max made a great point at the end: it's not governments the reason why we are in so much trouble, it's the banks and the financial markets. Going against the governments, the ones who regulate financial institutions will not solve anything at this point; it would actually make things even worse by setting the bankers and the speculators loose.
In Communism, the government engages in central planning for the benefit of the multitudes of workers. In Amerika, the Crony Capitalists manipulate and centrally plan the economy for the further enrichment of their elitist, capitalist class. There's a big difference there. These stupid libertarians don't seem to understand this. They lie, and try to identify the banksters as "socialist," when in fact they are Fascists. That's why I didn't get past the first 3 minutes of this video.
In Communist, the government engages in central planning for the benefit of the multitudes of workers. In Amerika, the Crony Capitalists manipulate and centrally plan the economy for the further of enrichment of their wealthy, elitist, capitalist class. There's a big difference there. These stupid libertarians don't seem to understand this. They lie, and try to identify the banksters as "socialist," when in fact they are Fascists. That's why I did get past the first 3 minutes of this video.
@overseachininadoll absolutely, not all of them but most of them...beware! Savers/speculators/debtors....Im with the savers! Max is wrong here and just jumping on another bandwagon like Michal moore and rosanne barr
To the last comment below.... Fiat money is anything printed that is not backed by something... We used to have the gold standard but we don't anymore. The bill is marked as "legal tender" which "guarantees" its value. The problem is that it is not fixed to a standard or intrinsic value which means that it is subject to things like inflation. Now the Communism part is a little more difficult and I think it is not entirely correct an Oligarchy system is what it is now, maybe even a Kleptocracy.
I think this anarchy crap is dangerous. The money'd interest took us to the cresipous, and now we want to give them even more power? These Jeff Berwich's ideas are clearly loony toon LaLa land stuff. The anarchists are very dangerous over in Europe protests right now, they are creating all the violence and coopting peaceful demonstrations.
Max, you may be the only one who knows how to strip the trading crimes, markets, and command and control criminals. Perhaps you can share more strategies to beat the economic terrorists and leave NOTHING for the perpetrators.
A game of football that has no referee, and the players negotiate all the rules and judgements as they are playing. . . . I don't think it would work . . . Not at the professional level at least.
someone knows how to bet on the crash of euro ? how,where,and what curency should i ask to be payed afrter euro crashes ? if almost all curencies are unstable in what i can take my proffit ?
Buy the Canadian dollar it's backed by platium, gold, silver, nickel, oil, iron, uranium, wheat, barley, potash, softwood, anything you want. Canada has lots of everything.
Take your money out of the Jewish Federal Reserve banks, get out of debt and STAY out of debt (cut the parasites off), leave the US if you can, refuse to fight in Zionist wars, turn off their propaganda news channels, and boycott Hollywood (watch for free on internet). Fuck Israel
anyone who believes that free markets are possible anywhere except on paper is a moron. if we started afresh as a free market system, within months there would be cartels forming and the end would be nigh. all these clowns hate govts until they need a bailout. if you completely remove the govt (anarchism), the most ruthless, most brutal would take over and an al capone type would become a de facto president.
@Herv3 you're right!....but, so am i (ha!). the problem is the system (capitalism). all the talk about free markets, gold standards, end the fed etc is irrelevant. the fact is this system simply does not (and never did) work! i'm not saying everyone should dash out and buy das kapital but, it needs replacing, not reforming. reforms (eg, glass-steagal) will just be undone by the powerful.
@donkiddick08 I don't see how you're right here. All you've done is presented a slipper slope argument, and a weak at that. A society beyond government is not only prudent, it's vital to human growth.
@donkiddick08 Obama is an Al Capone type, he sent troops to Africa on the 14th , lets see how many die on this joke humanitarian mission, his own people too jeez. The word government means mind control, mind control is a thing of the past now that people are getting informed See video - courts afraid of us now and lawful bank - Society ( the 99% ) will stand on its own.
@ahamatmabrahman i've nothing against the 99% but, govts aren't inherently bad. the US govt is bad because it is corrupt and cannot do what is right but, has to do what it's paymasters demand - whether they agree or not
@ahamatmabrahman surely, the media is more responsible for mind control than the govt? the media is also owned by the 1% that own the govt so, if the message is the same from both, this is no surprise. switzerland makes a lot of money out of sheltering money from the US taxman. i wouldn't be surprised if a high % of the bailout money isn't over there. this would account for the increase in the value of the swiss franc.
@ahamatmabrahman that's good but, not that good. the bildeberg group is a society of powerful people that holds meetings every so often. so, they would just shift their meeting somewhere else. i don't like alex jones. he points out all that's wrong with the world and yet, he's a republican! thus, he doesn't understand that the problem is capitalism- in any guise. watch 'the creature from jekyll island' to see how the rich will fight to ensure that the market remains anything but free.
@ahamatmabrahman The more they open up immigration it won't, the majority will become alien with different beliefs who will vote against the native population.
@ih8regs The whole idea of aliens is NWO brainwash, without racism it would be very hard to start a war. Everyone is unique but everyone has roughly the same life goal 1 . To have an occupation in order to provide for themselves and their family 2 To live a life suited to their gifts and abilities 3 To fulfill their dreams 4 Liberation
@ahamatmabrahman People have an inclination to the similar, that includes race, religion, other beliefs. Society is a reflection of those who created it. You replace the Swiss with those who aren't Swiss, you get society that isn't Swiss.
@ih8regs Its fine for people to maintain their culture and customs if that's what they like My likes are different from my neighbor but that's fine as long as everyone minds their own business. The world is big enough for everyone. In large city's we see that theirs a China town, Italian town etc that way people can speak their language, find the food they like etc There's only a problem when you think that you are superior/inferior to everyone else
@ahamatmabrahman Yes, free association, people decide who they will and will not associate with, that includes immigration policy. The example of large cities you point to highlights undesired Balkanization. Speaking of programming, your reflecting political correctness programming, there's nothing wrong with being truthful, everything isn't equal, some societies are better than others.
@ih8regs I love all the different towns and villages where I live, other people have to go on holiday but I can easily go to India for the day, go to a restaurant, shop for Indian products that are not available in my neighborhood At the same time I know that people go to the city's for economic reasons. This will change when we get rid of the NWdisorder Everyone should and will have plenty wherever they choose live very soon
You can't have a logical argument with the "gov't bad" crowd. It doesn't matter how well gov't reflects the will of the people (gov't's purpose) they will still not be happy. It could be direct democracy, the purest form of democracy, and they still will not be happy. It's not because they oppose gov't philosophically. The capitalists hate gov't or any expression of collective will because only the collective social will can stand up to the economic will of the moneyed interests.
Ok, let gov't disappear tomorrow. What forces will then dominate? Violence and money/capital. Oh yeah, that's a real change. The "gov't bad" crowd don't even know the infant stages of gov't. Gov't started out as warrior clans or moneyed families and proclaimed ownership over these lands and people. That's the beginning of the monarchies/kingdoms in Europe.
The free market types/Austrian assholes/gov't bad crowd live in utopia.
@harveybirdmannequin This is a total contradiction. Isn't it the collective will of people who buy good products exactly what capitalists like? If they didn't like the collective will of people to buy their good products they wouldn't be rich and capitalists, would they?
What ? Dont believe in govt ? That thinking has gotten us into the mess were in now. Government has been sidelined throughout the whole prop bubble. If govt had stepped in and said to the banks "' STOP" "NO MORE"' They could've prevented a lot of heartache. But people like this idiot had the belief that government had no right to interfere.
The free market brought you the collapse you moron!
You can't have free market ergo free competition if you want decent living standards unless the competitor has those also. Us neoliberalism transfered technology to china for practicaly free. Those few decades of higher economic growth don't count, cause only a few profited from it. The wrokers who actualy invented were left emptyhanded and now they work at mcdonalds if they have a job at all.
Get Saved people .... Jesus is Coming Soon .... and be reminded nothing of this world is going to matter in the after life the only matter will be ... did you accept Jesus as your Savior or did you reject Jesus and His Saving Grace?
We all have an eternal appointment...
So whats your souls destination?
To not choose Jesus*... is eternal death and encase you dont know ... thats eternal hell fire torment nashing of teeth sobs of sorrow grief ....ou
@Solosohi Tell us all about people who do have a clue then. Do you have a clue? Making assertions like this makes you look defensive and silly. You have not backed your claim with any evidence.
So you're saying believe in the free market and let the banks and big corporations continuing doing as they do now?
Yes. I mean no. I mean BELIEVE IN THE FREE MARKET. The free market is the answer. Ask the market.
What is this market that is free that you speak of? If by market, do you mean the democratic will of the people as represented by the gov't or do you mean those with money dictate society?
Gov't smash. Gov't hurt me. Gov't want my money. Gov't want MAH MOE NAY!
Market good. Market good. Market good.
Market friend. Market take care of me. Believe in market yes.
Me no like rules. Me no like people tell me what to do. Me look out for me. Me no care about other people. Me no like the representation of collective will, the gov't. Me like it when everyone fight one another. Me strong. Me survive OK. Me kill the weaklings. Take money.
@harveybirdmannequin i KNOW. This "no govt" mindset has infected western societies for decades. Its so ingrained in successive generations that most people dont even notice anymore. This idiot is blaming the victim.
what a laugh, OWS are the savers? most of them are just looters and plunderers! Once again Max shows his ignorance. The referee is bought and paid for by the banks and fascist based corporations . Except for the libertarian wing of the OWS (end the Fed and corporatism aka fascism) they are clueless sheep bleating about nothing.
But it is logically inconsistent CHERRY-PICKING to pick on Marxists, socialists, and communists to accuse THEM of wanting more laws and government THAN ANY OTHER GROUP OF PEOPLE. Corporations and big banks want laws against burning them down. Cops want laws against spitting in their faces. And so on. But cops SHOULD be spat upon.
If you don't help us, then govt has NO right to punish us.
So I'm not going to support laws to protect or help you if you don't for me.
Nothing wrong with being socialist or communist or Marxist.
However, it IS fundmentally WRONG to single out and attack socialists, communists, Marxists.
Everybody wants some set of laws to protect them from the attacks and impositions of others and to give THEM power to impose their greed and selfishness onto others. There are laws against ALL SORTS of human activities. Marx, socialists, communists, at least fight for FAIR laws.
If this guy is an anarchist - fine. Then why isn't the VERY first thing he demands is BLOW UP THE PRISONS AND FREE ALL PRISONERS? Free every single "murderer" and "child molestor". Let the free market decide how much revenge each person takes upon another.
I'd agree to that, because I would then cut the balls off any guy who intends to have kids in this overpopulated world, or who eats meat.
@mphello no thats not true and you're being dishonest if you think that anarchists are sympathetic to child molesters and murderers. The state has been he biggest example of a murderer throught man's history. you have to be a total blockhead
And you're a total shithead and deliberate liar if you think socialists and Marxists are sympathetic to the state stealing poor people's money and property, and extremist hypocrite if you blame socialists and Marxists for the current corporate-control of government, which is fascism, the opposite of Marxism. All the governments in the world which have had MINIMAL corporate domination (Cuba, Iceland, Scandinavia) have had strong socialist parties.
And you're a liar if you now claim that it is impossible for a person to be simultaneously unsympathetic to a person's actions (molesting children, big corporate ownership) while at the same time oppose a law (government) against it
because you anarchist pro-capitalist libertarians HAVE said that there's NO contradiction in that.
According to the "capitalists", there is no such thing as morality, laws, or any higher social order for that matter. There is only the all knowing, infallible market. The market has the answers. The market knows best.
Those with the money have been blessed by the market. Only the market can judge. If you have the most capital accumulated from child pornography, slavery, murder, and drug dealing, you are good according to the market.
This guest is an idiot to equate Cuba with North Korea. Cuba heroically pulled itself out of starvation and dependence on oil, in spite of horrendous laws that blockaded Cuba.
20m20s - this shithead now bashes Karl Marx without a clue what Marx is about. He preaches against all government, when he really means he doesn't like SPECIFIC LAWS.
This moron guest is typical of all these "no government" fanatics who hypocritically NEVER say: release all prisoners.
@mphello we have both. Inflation in energy, healthcare, education for example. Deflation in Commodities, & housing for example. Money does not flow to everything equally especially when there is manipulation and corruption.
No...You both got it wrong...we need to get rid of this referee. This referee has been bought off by the speculator team, and until we can get an unbiased, limited-action referee who has no stake in the match but to ensure the speculators have a limited charter. A referee who ensures fair play, and not put 50 players on the speculator team instead of 5, and who is running with NBA players instead of in the pee-wee league, then all bets are off. We need a match that is not rigged every time.
Assets are OVERPRICED - why run out of currencies and into assets which will continue to deflate for the next decade. It makes sense to take positions which are being propped up - like USD.
So this guy being interviewed believes in the fairitarian market. Doesn't he understand that it's a bad bad world out there and bad bad men who would do bad bad things to his liberatarian ass if there was no law or govt.
Max you could tell libtarians to invest money in Haiti. It's an anachy paradise.
Its everyone elses fault that fat greedy gits cant pay there bills? yea blame everyone else for YOU racking up a huge debt!,No one forced you to take a 7 bedroom mansion if your only a school teacher know what i mean! nor does anyone take a gun to your head to drive a hummer! buy a honda or something & if your single just stay in a 1 bedroom place! dont blame jews etc when you all cant pay.
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downturnabbie 2 months ago
this guy is a bit of a fool all he is thinks about is the long term horizon of course the dollar is dead in the long term. the debt cartel would mark to market their asset and wount come to tell the truth about there liabilities until they have position themselves to have a large enough stake in real assets. Also why doesnt he acknowledge credit as a form of money (currency) which it is and probable one of the biggest contrubuter to the velocity of money. No government what a joker.
BullColapse 3 months ago
@mikerowphone it's enforced not through physical force but through financial restitution, blacklisting etc.
Sivels 3 months ago
@mikerowphone contractual law...
Sivels 3 months ago
Capitalism needs voluntary contractual regulation, not regulation from the extortion racket that government is.
Sivels 3 months ago
@Sivels wasn't that Greenspan's line . . .
lifeonanotherplanet 3 months ago
@lifeonanotherplanet no.
Sivels 3 months ago
18:25 Keiser: "It's not the government that's the problem, it's the banks..."
Sure, it's the banks that run 1.5 trillion dollar deficits. It's the banks that created the Federal Reserve so as to finance wars and those deficits.
Central Banks are a government creation. A central bank cannot exist without a government creating it. Central bank Keynesianism is government policy, not individual banks trying to make a buck.
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Panpiper 3 months ago
@Panpiper Yes, bad central bank policy does advantage bankers and speculators to the detriment of everyone else, but the problem is 'caused' by the central bank enacting Keynesian, government policy. The problem is not caused by the individual banks. The profits of the individual banks are a 'symptom', not a cause.
Panpiper 3 months ago
The government is not just the 'referee', the government has written the rules of the game. And it has written those rules specifically so as to advantage the government and the wealthiest of bankers and speculators, at the expense of everyone else. The problem was 'created' by the government. This is all the result of deliberate policy, policy of the government! To eat the bankers without addressing the one who has written the rules is sheer insanity.
Panpiper 3 months ago
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Max knows nothing of free banking and unlimited liability era of the Scottish banking system
mike6459 3 months ago
No, no, no! Google: Wall Street Isn't Winning – It's Cheating. Then Google OccuptMarines. You're trying to make me believe OccupyMarines are communist? It's not about "more" laws. It's about upholding the friggin laws that "already exist". Last time I checked thievery is already illegal in America. Rigging the stock market is already illegal in America. Monopolies that are to big to fail are already illegal in America. ALL THESES LAWS ALREADY EXIST, but no one is applying them!!!!! *&(%^%^&
TheLadyMichele 4 months ago
freedom is a simple idea, you cant use force and violence to get your way.
skykensok 4 months ago
@mikerowphone
1) I am not a Zietgiester, they have some stuff right but also make some serious errors.
2) I do not engage in "debate" with those who forever and always want to be confrontational rather than seek truth, it's a waste of my time. I do not believe that you have any genuine interest in anarchic theory but just want to bash any ideas put forward. Maybe I'm wrong but there are plenty of sources out there for the truly curious. Namely, Rothbard on the right and Chomsky on the left.
viehe69 4 months ago 2
FUCK THE REFEREE HE IS BIASED!
The420Gunslinger 4 months ago
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The420Gunslinger 4 months ago
Poor Max. He still has a way to go.
Without governments forcing us into their game, there is no need for a referee.
No one voluntarily uses fiat currencies. They are forced to use them by crooks with legal tender 'laws' enforced ultimately by men with guns.
Truely free markets don't have referees as they don't need them.
Try getting a monopoly without a government to crush your opposition with 'regulations'.
I hope to see a free market in my lifetime.
nanciqwerty 4 months ago
Nothing wrong or illegal about being a communist or liberal.
Problem is the entire world is either extreme rightwing or wishywashy middle-of-the-road. True liberals and true radicals support war against the corporations stealing all our money and resources, war against corporate welfare, war to free all prisoners over trivial crimes like spitting on a cop or hitting a cop, war to outlaw human overpopulation and breeding, war against factory farming.
mphello 4 months ago
pretty weak guest max.
martymar66 4 months ago
More proof the Austrian school doesn't know what the hell it's talking about. This is stagflation, not inflation. The price of assets (esp. housing) is drastically decreasing, not increasing. Printing money isn't the issue, trying to flood insolvent banks with money is.
binhthanhvo 4 months ago
@binhthanhvo housing prices need to drop dramatically, they're artificially inflated-
Sivels 3 months ago
@Sivels Right. Again, this just reinforces my point that inflation/deflation are not the problems we face but stagflation.
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kopellhinex 4 months ago
People who reproduce themselves ought to be forced to give up all property rights, because they now force conditions on their kids who are forced to leave their parents' home when they turn 18 and find a job and a home of their own. But that necessarily impacts and forces constraints on those already there and THEIR private property. So, you either allow people to fight and (if necessary) kill to survive and live well and NOT arrest them for "murder" or "theft", or outlaw having kids.
mphello 4 months ago
Wasn't the "death of the referee" what caused this whole mess to begin with i.e., the death of Glass-Steagal?
chegvra 4 months ago
Lol "regulation". Max is a caring human being as evidenced by his passion and obvious disgust at the crimes perpetrated against tax payers, at civilian casualties etc...but his philosophical limitations are on full display here. The Idea that you have the RIGHT to things like a guaranteed return on savings is fucking ludicrous. Wanna save? THEN SAVE. If it weren't for the veneer of a legitimacy the govt gives banks et al, almost NO ONE would risk the fruits of their labour in these entities.
AcresofAnarchy 4 months ago
you start with a psychopathic idea: enforcement of "laws" in an arbitrarily defined area with the threat of violence, that is funded by wealth extracted also with the threat of violence, and you will end with psychopathic results: billionaires extracting wealth at the point of a financial gun. Its not rocket science,unless I've harmed someone else, you have no right to tell me what to do on my property or that of a fellow freeman. If that simple principle eludes you, you may have downs syndrome.
AcresofAnarchy 4 months ago
What is he on about that its communism? Its not communism.
ciarandots77 4 months ago
@ciarandots77
Exactly!
mphello 4 months ago
Every country subjugated another country to get a grip of specif resources to feed it's economy. These economic machines have indulges the populations with resources not produced on their terrain. When those resources are no longer available nations will look for the scarce resources. And continue the military buildups etc. That why all economic models need to shift into something new.
EmeterioBetances 4 months ago
@EmeterioBetances
Excellent comment!
= Every country subjugated another country to get a grip of specific resources to feed it's economy. =
All you libertarians can't seem to get this.
mphello 4 months ago
@mphello How much are you paid, exactly, for these posts?
SilverMahouShinobi 4 months ago
@SilverMahouShinobi
So now you think everybody gets paid for posting their comments?
Where'd you make THAT fantasy up?
mphello 4 months ago
For example Texas doesn't have water so is Mexico going to be exporting water? Or India who has no source of water? Are they to invade another country to get hold of that water supply for it's population? We need to construct new economies that are environmentalist in nature
EmeterioBetances 4 months ago
Debt based economies are a thing of the past. We have to bring a new economic model that is environmentalist in nature.
EmeterioBetances 4 months ago
The world resources are being devoured and for that reason are becoming fewer. We have to change the economic machines for the common interest of each nation not just one. If we continue on this path we are all heading into a collision course. Nuclear perhaps? But eventually it will lead to more wars and unrest.
EmeterioBetances 4 months ago
That branch should included people from all walks of life,teachers, students,doctors to have a say in their democracy. But I also agree in government oversite. Like the Cuban model. But I believe it most be democratically ruled by the poor. It most be banned any elites to run for office. Remove a debt based society and shift all world economies to a communal societies.
EmeterioBetances 4 months ago
@EmeterioBetances
Superb comments!
I still maintain we need to go further - do everything you recommend - but ALSO outlaw human reproduction -at least until life is fair and the world is not overpopulated with humans - by mandating vasectomies of males.
mphello 4 months ago
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@EmeterioBetances Great comment! Especially this part:
= But I also agree in government oversite. Like the Cuban model. But I believe it most be democratically ruled by the poor. =
mphello 4 months ago
It was because of free capital that banks and financial firms did this to America today. Deregulation. And I understand that government can become corrupt like what we see in the US. With banks who have hijacked the little democracy the people have had. That why I purpose a 4th branch of government by the people to influence all other branches.
EmeterioBetances 4 months ago
Jeff "I´m an Anarchist"..."(Max Kaiser) Well, that´s all the time we have", talk about self-censorship,"We need a referee", We never had a Referre per se, the banks are a goverment creation, they wouldnt exist, as of today, if it hasnt for the state. What the bankers want is you to go crie for mommy goverment for help, what they dont realise is that the banks are goverments(Mom´s) sugar daddy.
megatherium100 4 months ago
@mikerowphone
"Government is just a fancy word to describe the things we as a community do together"
Not really,government is a group of individuals who claim the moral authority and duty to initiate violence against legally disarmed citizens within a certain geographical region, i.e., a monopoly on the initiation of violence. This is reality, I don't know where you live. It is morally wrong to use violence against peaceful people, sorry you do not see it this way.
anarchy - without hierarchy
viehe69 4 months ago
Even in anarchism you have referees. The referee's are competitive law makers, also called dispute resolution agencies.
alalelalex 4 months ago
this guest is all over the place...
aliaandreadi 4 months ago
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RequiemForChange 4 months ago
Stunning, the misconceptions about anarchic principles here. MAX, if you're going to pick on anarchy you need to get someone more articulate on here, like Molyneux. I know you've interviewed him before but these topics did not come up. Hmmmm...
viehe69 4 months ago
@viehe69 im so tired of this 10 year-old-brain anarchists
is it so hard to understand that people are animals? those who have guns will kill and steal from the rest, its our instincts, study prehistory and then evolution to understand that no changes have occured or are you suggesting to get rid of all the guns, cause that would be equally ludacris
mHalfLife 4 months ago
@mHalfLife
I'm not saying anything except that this guy is not the best advocate of anarchic principles. Just understand that anarchy does not imply lawlessness, that is pure propaganda. It ONLY means no involuntary hierarchies. It does not mean an absence of rules, it means that the same rules apply for all. The situation today is one where the morality for rulers is exactly opposite to that of the ruled. We shouldn't steal, they MUST steal. We shouldn't murder, they MUST murder. etc, etc, etc
viehe69 4 months ago
@viehe69 alright, it could be propaganda
what is an anarchist's definition of an anarchy?
mHalfLife 4 months ago
@mHalfLife
see my responses to mikerowphone...
viehe69 4 months ago
@mphello No. Some error in terminology doesn't negate principle. Communists and fascists are both equally horrible. Study up.
mhradek 4 months ago
@cardplayer07 Statists. It doesn't matter if it's left or right. Communists are as bad as fascists. So perhaps some folks may have terminology off, the principles remain.
mhradek 4 months ago
Anarchy is stupid, masses of people would end up dead.
Rustyshackleford08 4 months ago
@Rustyshackleford08 @Rustyshackleford08 Yes because the 60 million killed in ww2 and the 1 million in Rwanda and the 1 million in Iraq were all killed by Anarchism. Oh wait government, government and government. And that's why the Amazonian natives and San people of the Kalahari regularly slaughter each other without the ever present influence of government in their lives...thanks for playing. Sorry bud, Nothing makes mass killing easier than disarmed tax animals funding an enforced hierarchy.
AcresofAnarchy 4 months ago
@AcresofAnarchy
Without any kind of law and order someone could just kill you and they could just walk. Anarchy is just that ANARCHY, you would end up someones slave or whatever. It would be like Mad Max, a real government thats not bought off would be nice but its the peoples fault for being so ignorant we are in the situation we are in. Too much tv.
Rustyshackleford08 4 months ago
@Rustyshackleford08 Anarchy simply means the absence of rulers. Not the absence of laws.
You're the one who watches too much TV.
SynapticTransmission 4 months ago 20
@SynapticTransmission Who's going to stop you from breaking the laws? Who picks the laws? Who makes the rules? I don't see how you could NOT end up with another leadership.
Watchdawg 3 months ago
@SynapticTransmission on an abstract level its still a paradox, someone has to make the laws and they would have to be considered rulers. Even if 99% of the population worked to gather to create the laws and all agreed with them they would still be "ruling" the 1%.
xcvsdxvsx 3 weeks ago
@Rustyshackleford08 Once I'm dead I don't give a crap if the guy is caught or not. Ive never understood this obsession with punishing people. The only goal worth a damn is prevention...and with 15,000 murders per year in the US alone I'm not sure how much the fear of the law is worth. The US incarcerates more people than any other country in the world and certainly doesn't have the lowest crime rate. Its not your fault. You've just been fed Statism your whole life.Its the only Language you know.
AcresofAnarchy 4 months ago
"We're grateful to media whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would've been impossible for us to implement our NWO if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto determination practiced in past centuries."
-David Rockefeller June, 1991
wolfgangfaust 4 months ago
Max, there is plenty of inflation, go to the grocery store.
Rustyshackleford08 4 months ago
What kind of 'match' is it when the referee is working with one of the teams Max?
dmurphy25 4 months ago 9
This just highlights how important it is to elect politicians who have a high moral compass and strong policical will, who follow and make good on "Good Laws" and reject the seductive powers of greed and corruption.
cobra60six 4 months ago
Jeff is correct Max, the Government, Bankers and Corporations are "The Same Thing". This whole mess has occurred because Government Officials have been seduced (Through Financial kickbacks) to do the bidding of Bankers and Corporations. If Political Will had prevailed, none of this would have been possible. I think it is a falsity to think that we need to simply focus on the wrong doing of the Bankers and expect the Government to be the Umpire that sets things straight.
cobra60six 4 months ago
I'm not advocating the removal of the Umpire, because that would insinuate we still had one. It is pretty obvious that the Umpire has defected to the Bankers Team making any chance of victory for the peasants impossible. So in short, this is a disease that has been allowed to enter, spread and thrive due to an astonishing lack of political will.
cobra60six 4 months ago
The capitalists are so dishonest in their argument. Everyone good they say is capitalism. Everything bad is "corporatism". If you had to sum up capitalism, it's the belief that individual greed benefits society as a whole. That has never been adequately proven.
The banks, corporations, and capitalism are to blame.
Yeah, bro except this isn't capitalism. This is corporatism.
Well what's the difference? They're both a system of greed except it's not the individual but a group of money interests.
harveybirdmannequin 4 months ago
harveybirdmannequin 4 months ago
@harveybirdmannequin
What? What's the free market going to do?
Just believe in it ok? It will work out just believe in it and our lives will get better.
But they have all the money. So you're saying trust the people with all the money to make lives better for us?
Ah ah ah. Trust the market. The market knows all. The market is infallible.
No, I'm pretty sure they're going to use their wealth to try and kill us.
Surrender yourself to the market and be judged. If the market wills it, we must obey.
harveybirdmannequin 4 months ago
@harveybirdmannequin
So you're saying if the rich people or "the market" doesn't have a use for us or is actively trying to kill us we should just lie down and die?
Do you not believe in the market, friend? Do you not trust in the market's infinite wisdom? The market knows what it is doing.
So you're not even going to try and fight back?
The market blesses those it deems worthy with money. We don't have money. We are not worthy. We should be grateful the market has let us lived this long.
harveybirdmannequin 4 months ago
@harveybirdmannequin
Trying to kill you? Fight back? "The Market" isn't some singular, anthropomorphized entity with thoughts and desires of it's own. You sound like a crazy person.
17Spartacus76 4 months ago
If Berwick is going to support anarchism he needs to be a little more articulate about what that means because he sounds like somebody that needs to learn some farming, not TV commentary....Like he hasn't really thought about it at all.
Mezocosm 4 months ago
These capitalists bash gov't saying it's "freedom" and honestly believe they are helping the poor.
Ok. Destroy gov't. That's the fastest way the poor mobs will kill you and take your property. They only want gov't to protect the moneyed interests. See, they don't say anything bad about the police holding back the Occupy Whatever movement. Without the police those protesters would have looted the place. Oh but the capitalists like that form of coercive force because it protects the money.
harveybirdmannequin 4 months ago
@harveybirdmannequin
These "capitalists/libertarians" think they are rugged individuals. Oh look at me I have a gun. I can fight back against anyone who tries to take MAH MOE NAY.
Yeah well the mob can have guns too. Also try surviving on your own. Imagine how much effort it would take to be truly self sufficient.
We need to drop these capitalists into lawless countries see how long they survive. They would love it. Put them in some city in Mexico. No gov't. Just druglords.
harveybirdmannequin 4 months ago
@harveybirdmannequin Bewick is a;ready in Mexico
vmyhdz 4 months ago
@harveybirdmannequin
Greatest reply ever! Wish I had the time to copy and paste it everywhere!
mphello 4 months ago
The interviewed guy reminds me of the old communists saying "Well...communism failed because it wasn't the real original one" ".
Fair enough.
The point is that communism in its original shape was utopian and the same is true for free market tout court. You need a solution in the middle. An example is Scandinavian countries. It can work though only if there is no massive immigration and if there is some Protestant like ethic of work.
76tombecker 4 months ago
I think it's says a great deal when you have two experts [who to me seem to be from different schools of thought] know the system is unsustainable. I'm extremely sceptical of the idea that government is the problem and the notion that it was regulation caused the economic crisis.
I'm happy to say I'm not completely in favour of capitalism and the financial system. but it is clear that the system we have is definitley not a free market system.
WAAAAAAAAAAAY 4 months ago
Keiser really has no clue. Gvt is no referee:they take your money through force and give it to your enemy. If they were not there, you would not be forced to fund your enemies, end of problem.
As long as you support a guy with special coercive privileges because he has a uniform, this weak point will be the attacked by the most capable lobbiest and they will always win from Joe six pack. Like parasites attacking a hole in your skin. Control the gvt and you control the populous,it's a hole.
modelmark 4 months ago
@modelmark Max is very knowledgeable, however the fact that he can't quite seem to realize the true problem which is government frustrates me as well. Maybe someday he'll see things the Anarcho-capitalist way. Love your point though
wakeupandthinkabout 4 months ago
The FED will buy the gvt debt and the gvt will spend it into the economy for bailouts and crony friends. It does not matter if banks are unwilling to lend. half a billion to Solyndra and it is gone, spent, out there competing for goods and services.
modelmark 4 months ago
Max needs to get Steve Keen back on to explain the difference between "stocks" and "flows"-- total "money supply" in a system is not restricted to the "stocks" available, but also depends how fast it is "flowing"
But people who bought into the "barter economy" myth-- and can't/won't distinguish between commodity money like gold/silver vs credit/currency money -- tend to think of money as something physical which follows the law of conservation of energy.
ApocalypticAang 4 months ago
Max made a great point at the end: it's not governments the reason why we are in so much trouble, it's the banks and the financial markets. Going against the governments, the ones who regulate financial institutions will not solve anything at this point; it would actually make things even worse by setting the bankers and the speculators loose.
flyermay 4 months ago
In Communism, the government engages in central planning for the benefit of the multitudes of workers. In Amerika, the Crony Capitalists manipulate and centrally plan the economy for the further enrichment of their elitist, capitalist class. There's a big difference there. These stupid libertarians don't seem to understand this. They lie, and try to identify the banksters as "socialist," when in fact they are Fascists. That's why I didn't get past the first 3 minutes of this video.
cardplayer07 4 months ago
In Communist, the government engages in central planning for the benefit of the multitudes of workers. In Amerika, the Crony Capitalists manipulate and centrally plan the economy for the further of enrichment of their wealthy, elitist, capitalist class. There's a big difference there. These stupid libertarians don't seem to understand this. They lie, and try to identify the banksters as "socialist," when in fact they are Fascists. That's why I did get past the first 3 minutes of this video.
cardplayer07 4 months ago 2
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mphello 4 months ago
the occupiers are not the savers, but the debtors.
overseachininadoll 4 months ago 2
@overseachininadoll absolutely, not all of them but most of them...beware! Savers/speculators/debtors....Im with the savers! Max is wrong here and just jumping on another bandwagon like Michal moore and rosanne barr
theMAXILOPEZpsycho 4 months ago
To the last comment below.... Fiat money is anything printed that is not backed by something... We used to have the gold standard but we don't anymore. The bill is marked as "legal tender" which "guarantees" its value. The problem is that it is not fixed to a standard or intrinsic value which means that it is subject to things like inflation. Now the Communism part is a little more difficult and I think it is not entirely correct an Oligarchy system is what it is now, maybe even a Kleptocracy.
lockedustin81 4 months ago
I think this anarchy crap is dangerous. The money'd interest took us to the cresipous, and now we want to give them even more power? These Jeff Berwich's ideas are clearly loony toon LaLa land stuff. The anarchists are very dangerous over in Europe protests right now, they are creating all the violence and coopting peaceful demonstrations.
Dean0000007 4 months ago
Max, you may be the only one who knows how to strip the trading crimes, markets, and command and control criminals. Perhaps you can share more strategies to beat the economic terrorists and leave NOTHING for the perpetrators.
Margaret4612 4 months ago
The minute Max's guest said the global monetary system was a "Communist style" fiat currency system, I quit watching.
cardplayer07 4 months ago
@cardplayer07 Look up the planks of the communist manifesto sometime.
ih8regs 4 months ago
A game of football that has no referee, and the players negotiate all the rules and judgements as they are playing. . . . I don't think it would work . . . Not at the professional level at least.
KevinSolway 4 months ago
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KevinSolway 4 months ago
This man is FOR corporations. LISTEN to what he's saying. CITIZENS UNITED would basically love this guy.
CanterburyCat 4 months ago
Hope no one leaves or dies , then every family will owe 2 Million
louis12346 4 months ago
someone knows how to bet on the crash of euro ? how,where,and what curency should i ask to be payed afrter euro crashes ? if almost all curencies are unstable in what i can take my proffit ?
astifan1 4 months ago
PressTv has got to change this intro something that doesn't seem to come out of the early 90's. Max Keiser on RT is a much more tolerable intro.
Rcwatson83 4 months ago
I'm glad to see there's a healthy interest in this video
ahamatmabrahman 4 months ago
Buy the Canadian dollar it's backed by platium, gold, silver, nickel, oil, iron, uranium, wheat, barley, potash, softwood, anything you want. Canada has lots of everything.
HannoverFisk 4 months ago
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TheJewRegulator 4 months ago
iNFLATION is an increase in the money supply in the REAL economy, banks are withholding lending to the REAL economy.
Max is right Jeff is dickhead with limited economic knowledge. Don't waste your time with this dick again with his stupid shoelace necklace.
Max, bring back a Phd in economics like Marc Faber!
mercuryrazvedka 4 months ago 2
anyone who believes that free markets are possible anywhere except on paper is a moron. if we started afresh as a free market system, within months there would be cartels forming and the end would be nigh. all these clowns hate govts until they need a bailout. if you completely remove the govt (anarchism), the most ruthless, most brutal would take over and an al capone type would become a de facto president.
donkiddick08 4 months ago
@donkiddick08 That's what we have now.
Herv3 4 months ago
@Herv3 you're right!....but, so am i (ha!). the problem is the system (capitalism). all the talk about free markets, gold standards, end the fed etc is irrelevant. the fact is this system simply does not (and never did) work! i'm not saying everyone should dash out and buy das kapital but, it needs replacing, not reforming. reforms (eg, glass-steagal) will just be undone by the powerful.
donkiddick08 4 months ago
@donkiddick08 I don't see how you're right here. All you've done is presented a slipper slope argument, and a weak at that. A society beyond government is not only prudent, it's vital to human growth.
Herv3 4 months ago
@Herv3 so, anarchy works?
donkiddick08 4 months ago
@donkiddick08 Obama is an Al Capone type, he sent troops to Africa on the 14th , lets see how many die on this joke humanitarian mission, his own people too jeez. The word government means mind control, mind control is a thing of the past now that people are getting informed See video - courts afraid of us now and lawful bank - Society ( the 99% ) will stand on its own.
ahamatmabrahman 4 months ago
@ahamatmabrahman i've nothing against the 99% but, govts aren't inherently bad. the US govt is bad because it is corrupt and cannot do what is right but, has to do what it's paymasters demand - whether they agree or not
donkiddick08 4 months ago
@donkiddick08 Mind control is inherently bad in my opinion eg Switzerland has direct democracy from the people , this works well for them.
ahamatmabrahman 4 months ago
@ahamatmabrahman surely, the media is more responsible for mind control than the govt? the media is also owned by the 1% that own the govt so, if the message is the same from both, this is no surprise. switzerland makes a lot of money out of sheltering money from the US taxman. i wouldn't be surprised if a high % of the bailout money isn't over there. this would account for the increase in the value of the swiss franc.
donkiddick08 4 months ago
@donkiddick08 The Swiss recently threw the Bilderbergers out of Switzerland , you can see the videos on infowars
ahamatmabrahman 4 months ago
@ahamatmabrahman that's good but, not that good. the bildeberg group is a society of powerful people that holds meetings every so often. so, they would just shift their meeting somewhere else. i don't like alex jones. he points out all that's wrong with the world and yet, he's a republican! thus, he doesn't understand that the problem is capitalism- in any guise. watch 'the creature from jekyll island' to see how the rich will fight to ensure that the market remains anything but free.
donkiddick08 4 months ago
@ahamatmabrahman The more they open up immigration it won't, the majority will become alien with different beliefs who will vote against the native population.
ih8regs 4 months ago
@ih8regs The entire world is protesting , there are no more aliens
ahamatmabrahman 4 months ago
@ahamatmabrahman Your comment is meaningless. The whole world protesting doesn't make aliens to a country cease to be alien.
ih8regs 4 months ago
@ih8regs The whole idea of aliens is NWO brainwash, without racism it would be very hard to start a war. Everyone is unique but everyone has roughly the same life goal 1 . To have an occupation in order to provide for themselves and their family 2 To live a life suited to their gifts and abilities 3 To fulfill their dreams 4 Liberation
ahamatmabrahman 4 months ago
@ahamatmabrahman No, it's not, it's mother nature.
ih8regs 4 months ago
@ih8regs Elaborate please
ahamatmabrahman 4 months ago
@ahamatmabrahman People have an inclination to the similar, that includes race, religion, other beliefs. Society is a reflection of those who created it. You replace the Swiss with those who aren't Swiss, you get society that isn't Swiss.
ih8regs 4 months ago
@ih8regs Its fine for people to maintain their culture and customs if that's what they like My likes are different from my neighbor but that's fine as long as everyone minds their own business. The world is big enough for everyone. In large city's we see that theirs a China town, Italian town etc that way people can speak their language, find the food they like etc There's only a problem when you think that you are superior/inferior to everyone else
ahamatmabrahman 4 months ago
@ahamatmabrahman Yes, free association, people decide who they will and will not associate with, that includes immigration policy. The example of large cities you point to highlights undesired Balkanization. Speaking of programming, your reflecting political correctness programming, there's nothing wrong with being truthful, everything isn't equal, some societies are better than others.
ih8regs 4 months ago
@ih8regs s/your/you're/
ih8regs 4 months ago
@ih8regs I love all the different towns and villages where I live, other people have to go on holiday but I can easily go to India for the day, go to a restaurant, shop for Indian products that are not available in my neighborhood At the same time I know that people go to the city's for economic reasons. This will change when we get rid of the NWdisorder Everyone should and will have plenty wherever they choose live very soon
ahamatmabrahman 4 months ago
like!
merryfourtwenty 4 months ago
You can't have a logical argument with the "gov't bad" crowd. It doesn't matter how well gov't reflects the will of the people (gov't's purpose) they will still not be happy. It could be direct democracy, the purest form of democracy, and they still will not be happy. It's not because they oppose gov't philosophically. The capitalists hate gov't or any expression of collective will because only the collective social will can stand up to the economic will of the moneyed interests.
harveybirdmannequin 4 months ago
@harveybirdmannequin
Ok, let gov't disappear tomorrow. What forces will then dominate? Violence and money/capital. Oh yeah, that's a real change. The "gov't bad" crowd don't even know the infant stages of gov't. Gov't started out as warrior clans or moneyed families and proclaimed ownership over these lands and people. That's the beginning of the monarchies/kingdoms in Europe.
The free market types/Austrian assholes/gov't bad crowd live in utopia.
harveybirdmannequin 4 months ago
@harveybirdmannequin This is a total contradiction. Isn't it the collective will of people who buy good products exactly what capitalists like? If they didn't like the collective will of people to buy their good products they wouldn't be rich and capitalists, would they?
scrufduf 4 months ago
What ? Dont believe in govt ? That thinking has gotten us into the mess were in now. Government has been sidelined throughout the whole prop bubble. If govt had stepped in and said to the banks "' STOP" "NO MORE"' They could've prevented a lot of heartache. But people like this idiot had the belief that government had no right to interfere.
Get a grip.
ANTIDALLARD 4 months ago
The free market brought you the collapse you moron!
You can't have free market ergo free competition if you want decent living standards unless the competitor has those also. Us neoliberalism transfered technology to china for practicaly free. Those few decades of higher economic growth don't count, cause only a few profited from it. The wrokers who actualy invented were left emptyhanded and now they work at mcdonalds if they have a job at all.
2009zigi 4 months ago
this is taking us to the new world order...
Get Saved people .... Jesus is Coming Soon .... and be reminded nothing of this world is going to matter in the after life the only matter will be ... did you accept Jesus as your Savior or did you reject Jesus and His Saving Grace?
We all have an eternal appointment...
So whats your souls destination?
To not choose Jesus*... is eternal death and encase you dont know ... thats eternal hell fire torment nashing of teeth sobs of sorrow grief ....ou
Terri3210 4 months ago
This was the worst guest ever, a crappy anarcho-capitalist without a clue.
Solosohi 4 months ago
@Solosohi Tell us all about people who do have a clue then. Do you have a clue? Making assertions like this makes you look defensive and silly. You have not backed your claim with any evidence.
scrufduf 4 months ago
Gov't bad. Gov't bad. Gov't bad.
The gov't is controlled by the banks and big corporations. Gov't bad. Gov't bad. Gov't bad.
So the banks and corporations are the problem?
No. No? NO! Gov't bad. Gov't bad. Gov't bad. Blame the gov't not the banks or corporations. Gov't bad. Gov't bad. Gov't bad.
Ok... hypothetically what force could stop these banks and corporations?
Belief.
In what?
The free market. Believe in the all knowing infallible free market. Gov't bad. Gov't bad. Gov't bad.
harveybirdmannequin 4 months ago
@harveybirdmannequin
So you're saying believe in the free market and let the banks and big corporations continuing doing as they do now?
Yes. I mean no. I mean BELIEVE IN THE FREE MARKET. The free market is the answer. Ask the market.
What is this market that is free that you speak of? If by market, do you mean the democratic will of the people as represented by the gov't or do you mean those with money dictate society?
Gov't bad. Gov't bad. Gov't bad. Market good. Market good. Market good.
harveybirdmannequin 4 months ago
@harveybirdmannequin
Gov't bad. Gov't bad. Gov't bad.
Gov't smash. Gov't hurt me. Gov't want my money. Gov't want MAH MOE NAY!
Market good. Market good. Market good.
Market friend. Market take care of me. Believe in market yes.
Me no like rules. Me no like people tell me what to do. Me look out for me. Me no care about other people. Me no like the representation of collective will, the gov't. Me like it when everyone fight one another. Me strong. Me survive OK. Me kill the weaklings. Take money.
harveybirdmannequin 4 months ago
@harveybirdmannequin i KNOW. This "no govt" mindset has infected western societies for decades. Its so ingrained in successive generations that most people dont even notice anymore. This idiot is blaming the victim.
ANTIDALLARD 4 months ago
what a laugh, OWS are the savers? most of them are just looters and plunderers! Once again Max shows his ignorance. The referee is bought and paid for by the banks and fascist based corporations . Except for the libertarian wing of the OWS (end the Fed and corporatism aka fascism) they are clueless sheep bleating about nothing.
elricmlbone 4 months ago
@elricmlbone Better than fuck all!
ANTIDALLARD 4 months ago
That guy would fit in at the Pride Parade.
harveybirdmannequin 4 months ago
-1
rdm240967 4 months ago
I love how he starts off right away stating clearly that free-market capitalism is NOT to blame for this. I like this guy
natritious1 4 months ago
But it is logically inconsistent CHERRY-PICKING to pick on Marxists, socialists, and communists to accuse THEM of wanting more laws and government THAN ANY OTHER GROUP OF PEOPLE. Corporations and big banks want laws against burning them down. Cops want laws against spitting in their faces. And so on. But cops SHOULD be spat upon.
If you don't help us, then govt has NO right to punish us.
So I'm not going to support laws to protect or help you if you don't for me.
mphello 4 months ago
Nothing wrong with being socialist or communist or Marxist.
However, it IS fundmentally WRONG to single out and attack socialists, communists, Marxists.
Everybody wants some set of laws to protect them from the attacks and impositions of others and to give THEM power to impose their greed and selfishness onto others. There are laws against ALL SORTS of human activities. Marx, socialists, communists, at least fight for FAIR laws.
mphello 4 months ago
If this guy is an anarchist - fine. Then why isn't the VERY first thing he demands is BLOW UP THE PRISONS AND FREE ALL PRISONERS? Free every single "murderer" and "child molestor". Let the free market decide how much revenge each person takes upon another.
I'd agree to that, because I would then cut the balls off any guy who intends to have kids in this overpopulated world, or who eats meat.
mphello 4 months ago
@mphello no thats not true and you're being dishonest if you think that anarchists are sympathetic to child molesters and murderers. The state has been he biggest example of a murderer throught man's history. you have to be a total blockhead
natritious1 4 months ago
@natritious1
And you're a total shithead and deliberate liar if you think socialists and Marxists are sympathetic to the state stealing poor people's money and property, and extremist hypocrite if you blame socialists and Marxists for the current corporate-control of government, which is fascism, the opposite of Marxism. All the governments in the world which have had MINIMAL corporate domination (Cuba, Iceland, Scandinavia) have had strong socialist parties.
mphello 4 months ago
@natritious1
And you're a liar if you now claim that it is impossible for a person to be simultaneously unsympathetic to a person's actions (molesting children, big corporate ownership) while at the same time oppose a law (government) against it
because you anarchist pro-capitalist libertarians HAVE said that there's NO contradiction in that.
mphello 4 months ago
@mphello
According to the "capitalists", there is no such thing as morality, laws, or any higher social order for that matter. There is only the all knowing, infallible market. The market has the answers. The market knows best.
Those with the money have been blessed by the market. Only the market can judge. If you have the most capital accumulated from child pornography, slavery, murder, and drug dealing, you are good according to the market.
Question the market and you're a heretic.
harveybirdmannequin 4 months ago
@harveybirdmannequin A straw man.
erelpc 4 months ago
@harveybirdmannequin niiiiiice, very nice! trans: well said
donkiddick08 4 months ago
This guest is an idiot to equate Cuba with North Korea. Cuba heroically pulled itself out of starvation and dependence on oil, in spite of horrendous laws that blockaded Cuba.
20m20s - this shithead now bashes Karl Marx without a clue what Marx is about. He preaches against all government, when he really means he doesn't like SPECIFIC LAWS.
This moron guest is typical of all these "no government" fanatics who hypocritically NEVER say: release all prisoners.
mphello 4 months ago
Isn't Max always the one saying we're in hyperinflation? Why is he NOW saying we're in deflation?
mphello 4 months ago
@mphello we have both. Inflation in energy, healthcare, education for example. Deflation in Commodities, & housing for example. Money does not flow to everything equally especially when there is manipulation and corruption.
Plat465 4 months ago
It's Stagflation Stup!
YouriCarma 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Dr Ron Paul 2012 or it's over
liagog 4 months ago
"I don't believe there should be a referee, I'm an anarchist" -> End of the show. Thats a shame, wish it was an hour long programme.
god0fgod 4 months ago
No...You both got it wrong...we need to get rid of this referee. This referee has been bought off by the speculator team, and until we can get an unbiased, limited-action referee who has no stake in the match but to ensure the speculators have a limited charter. A referee who ensures fair play, and not put 50 players on the speculator team instead of 5, and who is running with NBA players instead of in the pee-wee league, then all bets are off. We need a match that is not rigged every time.
clbackus 4 months ago
Austrian School Of Economics = Koch Brothers Cock Suckers
theH0UNDSofD00M 4 months ago
Assets are OVERPRICED - why run out of currencies and into assets which will continue to deflate for the next decade. It makes sense to take positions which are being propped up - like USD.
So this guy being interviewed believes in the fairitarian market. Doesn't he understand that it's a bad bad world out there and bad bad men who would do bad bad things to his liberatarian ass if there was no law or govt.
Max you could tell libtarians to invest money in Haiti. It's an anachy paradise.
vicj0r 4 months ago
@doomz78 IMF= International Mafia Federation....
BabylonsKing 4 months ago
Its everyone elses fault that fat greedy gits cant pay there bills? yea blame everyone else for YOU racking up a huge debt!,No one forced you to take a 7 bedroom mansion if your only a school teacher know what i mean! nor does anyone take a gun to your head to drive a hummer! buy a honda or something & if your single just stay in a 1 bedroom place! dont blame jews etc when you all cant pay.
Kingdoc1976 4 months ago
@Kingdoc1976 Did you ever go to school? I think not. Critical thinking would have been wasted on you anyway!
MrCharlieSurf 4 months ago
@Kingdoc1976 Finally, somebody out there who is not a moron.
Lundquvist 4 months ago