Mac FTW!!! Here in 2011 the Mac is much better than Windows. Programs like JAWS cost more than $1000.. Check out my tutorials here on YouTube. they are "blind friendly"
I know this discussion is about computers, but Apple has really revolutionized accessibility for mobile devices. I have an iPhone and find VoiceOver to be the most intuitive, unobtrusive screen reader I've ever used. It's hard to imagine the Mac version of VoiceOver could be so limited and restrictive. This video is a few years old now; is it possible the Mac VoiceOver program has been improved since? I still use a PC.
@MegaCrasher3000 I have started posting in depth tutorials on using the Mac voice over. I will never use a Windows based screen reader again. Look yup "How to be lind" for my series of videos.
@thenoob30 Do note the time when I uploaded this. Also, my glasses make my eyes look sleepy, due to their thickness. Without them, though, I cannot see.
@whatisthiscoconut Also too dangerous. My condition makes my retina fragile. We don't want to do anything unecessarily (i.e. unless there's a true risk of permanently losing my vision if we don't do it), which for the moment there is no risk.
Well, 90's, rather. Or just about, at least. Typos go well. Also, you don't need to worry about scripts for VoiceOver if apps are written in Cocoa for the most part. Cocoa has builtin accessibility frameworks, meaning a lot of the time, the programmer doesn't have to spend effort perfecting accessibility, like Unlike Windows screen readers. I see that as a big plus on Mac.
Just to make an important point, Mac had Outspoken in the 80's or so which worked well for blind users. Also, you forgot to mention that all Windows apps that work with JAWS or Window Eyes need scripts to run, VO does not. Were you to remove the scripts that Windows readers come with, it will error horribly. Outspoken in the 80's was not built in, but separate like Windows technology when it came in 90's. But it worked well.
As a macintosh fan boy I appreciate your comments. I love my mac and was happy to spend the extra money simply get what I want and be happy. I spent £1349 (UK sterling) on my mac. I would not have a windows PC if you gave it to me free. That is my choice and I have been very happy with my mac since I bought it in February 2007. I will pass your comments onto apple and over apple developers to considerably improve their assistive technology. Very good video with fine constructive comments!
iTunes was inaccessible for quite a long time, even with VoiceOver. It's accessible now, but even when VoiceOver first came out, you couldn't use iTunes with it, so you're right, the ownus is on the application developer to make their applicaions useable with VoiceOver, and of course most Mac software is developed by Apple you need to nag Apple to make their software accessible. Is the latest version of Office for the Mac accessible?
Have you used OutSPOKEN for the Mac? The screen reader was around in the 90's, and was used before VoiceOver came out. Are you dual booting Windows 7 using Boot Camp? I am planning on upgrading to a new computer soon, currently I'm using Windows XP with no access technology, but I'm thinking about buying a Mac, and then I'd have access to both VoiceOver and Zoom without having to buy the software.
I've heard of OutSpoken but never used it. In the 90s, though, I don't think the Mac was a true alternative to Windows because of the incredibly steep learning curve & viruses that plagued it. It wasn't until OS X that they got the virus thing under control.
Mac FTW!!! Here in 2011 the Mac is much better than Windows. Programs like JAWS cost more than $1000.. Check out my tutorials here on YouTube. they are "blind friendly"
Eyelessguy1987 2 months ago
I know this discussion is about computers, but Apple has really revolutionized accessibility for mobile devices. I have an iPhone and find VoiceOver to be the most intuitive, unobtrusive screen reader I've ever used. It's hard to imagine the Mac version of VoiceOver could be so limited and restrictive. This video is a few years old now; is it possible the Mac VoiceOver program has been improved since? I still use a PC.
MegaCrasher3000 5 months ago
@MegaCrasher3000 I have started posting in depth tutorials on using the Mac voice over. I will never use a Windows based screen reader again. Look yup "How to be lind" for my series of videos.
Eyelessguy1987 2 months ago
dude... get Lasik
pickle430 1 year ago
@pickle430 Can't - my condition is such that we cannot afford to do anything with lasers unless absolutely necessary.
rml695 1 year ago
@rml695 damn I'm sry
pickle430 1 year ago
Oh sorry it just looks like u are tired
thenoob30 1 year ago
@thenoob30 Nope. :)
rml695 1 year ago
DUDE GET SOME SLEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thenoob30 1 year ago
@thenoob30 Do note the time when I uploaded this. Also, my glasses make my eyes look sleepy, due to their thickness. Without them, though, I cannot see.
rml695 1 year ago
dude get some lenses ffs
whatisthiscoconut 1 year ago
@whatisthiscoconut Too dangerous. We tried that before, it actually made my condition worse.
rml695 1 year ago
@rml695 laser surgery?
whatisthiscoconut 1 year ago
@whatisthiscoconut Also too dangerous. My condition makes my retina fragile. We don't want to do anything unecessarily (i.e. unless there's a true risk of permanently losing my vision if we don't do it), which for the moment there is no risk.
rml695 1 year ago
Well, 90's, rather. Or just about, at least. Typos go well. Also, you don't need to worry about scripts for VoiceOver if apps are written in Cocoa for the most part. Cocoa has builtin accessibility frameworks, meaning a lot of the time, the programmer doesn't have to spend effort perfecting accessibility, like Unlike Windows screen readers. I see that as a big plus on Mac.
TheNicolaisvendsen 2 years ago
Just to make an important point, Mac had Outspoken in the 80's or so which worked well for blind users. Also, you forgot to mention that all Windows apps that work with JAWS or Window Eyes need scripts to run, VO does not. Were you to remove the scripts that Windows readers come with, it will error horribly. Outspoken in the 80's was not built in, but separate like Windows technology when it came in 90's. But it worked well.
TheNicolaisvendsen 2 years ago
As a macintosh fan boy I appreciate your comments. I love my mac and was happy to spend the extra money simply get what I want and be happy. I spent £1349 (UK sterling) on my mac. I would not have a windows PC if you gave it to me free. That is my choice and I have been very happy with my mac since I bought it in February 2007. I will pass your comments onto apple and over apple developers to considerably improve their assistive technology. Very good video with fine constructive comments!
nobarriersradio 2 years ago
Where do you download windows 7? does it cost anything?Will it improve the internet speed?
siccxninjaxh2o 2 years ago
internet speed is determined by your ISP.
TheOriginalRootbrian 2 years ago
iTunes was inaccessible for quite a long time, even with VoiceOver. It's accessible now, but even when VoiceOver first came out, you couldn't use iTunes with it, so you're right, the ownus is on the application developer to make their applicaions useable with VoiceOver, and of course most Mac software is developed by Apple you need to nag Apple to make their software accessible. Is the latest version of Office for the Mac accessible?
Lachlant1984 2 years ago
I can't speak to Office for the Mac. I have version 2004 which is inaccessible. I don't have Office 2008.
rml695 2 years ago
Have you used OutSPOKEN for the Mac? The screen reader was around in the 90's, and was used before VoiceOver came out. Are you dual booting Windows 7 using Boot Camp? I am planning on upgrading to a new computer soon, currently I'm using Windows XP with no access technology, but I'm thinking about buying a Mac, and then I'd have access to both VoiceOver and Zoom without having to buy the software.
Lachlant1984 2 years ago
I've heard of OutSpoken but never used it. In the 90s, though, I don't think the Mac was a true alternative to Windows because of the incredibly steep learning curve & viruses that plagued it. It wasn't until OS X that they got the virus thing under control.
rml695 2 years ago
windows 8
1mdjsabvr 2 years ago
that'll be in 5 years IF 7 gets to be loved like XP, remember, 7 is repacked vista, the RTM could be worse in ways you DON'T want it.
Like Undisableable UAC, more restrictions.
Keep that in mind. Nobody knows until it's official.
TheOriginalRootbrian 2 years ago
agencies don't tend to buy people macs either, good vid, you covered a lot of important ground here.
jls1114 2 years ago