I didn't scoff ... first, I have an open mind and was hoping you had a valid point in this, but the "emanations" had me thinking "I could easily duplicate that" and thought of the many ways it could be done. One was Adobe After Effects, another was Open Movie Editor. LOL
@rozeboosje Not too badly, it was a well received point. I am just excessively open minded and often look for as many explanations for something then rule them out one at a time until ... I'm usually left with the truth or something that could lead to it. ;) I'm also highly technical to a fault, so my first guesses tend to follow that line.
, and these statements instantly turn me off from listening to him let alone a believer in the paranormal.
All that is needed is to say... look, I feel this way... and here's why... There is no need to insult people or make to topic emotive, you will always either lose the argument, or have people simply switch off to you.
@taramcnamara That's fine. I have no problem with you wishing to continue to live your life afraid of monsters under the bed and jumping at shadows. But I will laugh at you. Good thing for you is that nobody says you must listen to that. I state my case here, and if you find that objectionable, feel free to turn your back on it and "switch off". No hard feelings from me.
Awww. What a shame... I stopped watching this at 2.5mins... and there was a chance that it was going somewhere too. For the record, I don't believe in ghosts, but some people do, and they believe that they have evidence to support their belief.
Whererozeboosje has gone wrong here is in "dissing" believers. He has insulted them by saying things such as "what's more likely"... "crazy ideas..." ghosts in mid air - whooo hoo hooo"
Yeah I remember this old QualliaSoup video. Kinda surprises me that you're making a comment on this one now. Vid is old and I see no actual events where we have been served this "close-minded" line? Did soemeone told you that recently?
@Knr911 It was three months ago when I posted this, but if I remember correctly, I was watching a v00d00sixxx video in which he was talking about open-mindedness and it reminded me of that old QualiaSoup video, and I thought it was a very memorable one and I had never given it props. So I reckoned better late than never :-)
@jerrygreg2 I think Shamus is busy 'googling' Tyrese right now! Apparently he is the lad's 'nigga' who was interested in the size of my noodly appendage!
@rozeboosje you cause you're a fucking HOWLY SHIT LOL OMG AHAHAHA DUDE IM HAVING A BATHE AND I ALMOST DROPPED MY LAPTOP LOL HOL SHIT DUDE, THIS IS HEAVY
@Shamus8b8 That can happen, especially if your butt REALLY hurts. Perhaps you could take some solpadeine as well. The pharmacist will give you a lecture but just let it go in one ear and out the other. Nod and smile.
@rozeboosje At 104, I'm surprised you can blush without your head exploding, but to be honest, I didn't really get it either. Just Shamus's fantasy I suppose.
@jerrygreg2 Feel free to. I do enjoy indulging in the occasional display of pomposity or pedantry, especially when I know it's going to wind somebody up [grin].
@rozeboosje Just out of interest, you do realise that YT ticks all your sharing options when they change the setup don't you? You can't fart without your subscribers knowing about it!
@jerrygreg2 What a pain! And my subscription box disappears from my channel unless I share new channels I sub to. Ah, I'm not getting started on that. I was happy to have actually learned something new here. Tiresias is new to me. Cheers, Jerry!
@DaithiDublin that's it you're fucking dead man, let's do this shit you fucker, i don't care if people are offended by me beating up an aspergegetic waste of sentience, you are miiine
@Shamus8b8 It is of the utmost importance that one capitalises one's sentences correctly. Appropriate punctuation is equally important and it is a testament to the inadequacy of your education that you fail to spell "pompous" in accordance with the Queen's English. One is not amused. Not amused at all.
@Shamus8b8 Pray tell, what would be the consequences of my failure to comply with your demands? Please don't sulk or threaten to hold your breath until your head explodes.
@Shamus8b8 If I don't cease my pompousness you will respond by drawing out sentences like a pompous goodly appendage? That seems rather ambitious of you but by all means knock yourself out.
@Shamus8b8 I am terribly sorry if your native language puts unbearable demands on your limited mental capacity and if my failure to comply causes you the kind of mental anguish that drives you to return to this comment section like a female dog in oestrus, but your statement "stop being shallow", despite its deplorable lack of proper capitalisation and punctuation was clearly an imperative sentence and thus a command. What is it like to have the memory span of a goldfish?
@Shamus8b8 Again I must ask you: failure to comply with this second command will result in what penalties against me, exactly? What are you suggesting will happen if I do not do what you tell me to do? Are you going to throw a tantrum? Are you going to go tell teacher? It's a mystery to confound, but enquiring minds need to know.
@Shamus8b8 That is entirely possible. You, on the other hand, have rather a long way to go before the L plates can come off your trollmobile. I suggest you start focusing on becoming a bit less repetitive and to actually find out a bit more about what buttons you need to push in order to get the desired result.
@Shamus8b8 People with Asperger syndrome often display intense interests, such as this boy's fascination with this comment section. Asperger's Syndrome is an autistic spectrum disorder that is characterised by significant difficulties in social interaction, alongside restrictive and repetitive patterns of behaviour and interests.
@rozeboosje cause you got autism, I can't just come up with complex shit you probably might won't understand, for all I know you probably oblongs and swirls where normal words go.
@Shamus8b8 "When an argument or a battle of wills develops, sometimes the AS child tries to drag the dialogue on and on, just so he can have the final word".
@rozeboosje I have to disagree in the strongest possible terms to the idea that this wee troll has AS. As you know, two of the key indicators of AS that separates it from classic autism is an above average IQ and no delays in the onset of language acquisition. I'm leaning towards troll.
@Shamus8b8 Ah, so you want to make love, not war? Sorry, brah, that doesn't float my boat. But hey, it's a free and colourful world. You and Tyrese have at it. Carpe Diem, lad. Carpe Diem!
a technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated. Usually associated with people with Autism"
You may assert that you've edited in virtual wisps of smoke. I however know the truth. It's the visual manifestation of body odour. My proof? I've seen it in Viz comic, so take a shower young man.
Its absolutely central. You made a glaring assumption which you are no more in a position to do than someone assuming a lampshade was subject to the attention of a passing poltergeist. You and I sir are not going to agree on this; its apples and oranges I'm afraid - please try avoid the temptation of assuming you are 'right' though. I'll try and keep an open mind if you will. I wish you all the best.
In the sense that something that previously didn't exist now does (by whatever means). The specific set of events/circumstances at a particular time would provide the catalyst that results in the 'creation' of a new set of circumstances/phenomena.
@fishybishbash "previously"? In the original sense of the word, "Universe" equates to "Reality", all that ever was, is and will be. Where would "previous" to that be?
@rozeboosje In this case the 'instance' of the Universe in which we find ourselves. This 'instance' apparently depends on a process which exists in time and has a beginning, middle and an end. So, previous to that. If you're nervous of the word 'created', substitute 'generated'.
@fishybishbash It's not entirely sure that we exist in an "instance" of "the Universe" rather than in the "actual" Universe, so I see no reason why I should adopt that as an a priori assumption. Reality certainly doesn't exist "in time", it transcends time along with anything else.
@rozeboosje Basically I think qualiasoups viewpoint is coloured by his own assumptions just like anyone elses and I find it patronising. He offers a definition of open-mindedness which I think is only partially true and I dislike the implication that anyone who is drawn to the idea of divinity in nature is a deluded idiot. Now I must go and do some washing. Thanks for the chat.
@fishybishbash I'm not sure he is actually implying that. I certainly wouldn't have a problem per se with the idea of "divinity" in nature although I don't see the need to label anything in nature as such, because the term has so often been used to indicate something "supernatural" and literally "outside reality" that I think that to revert to it will only lead to confusion. I can buy into the idea of transcendence, with "reality" ultimately transcending all.
@rozeboosje That brings us back to the starting point for all these discussions - the nature of reality, which science does not seem to have a handle on at all. Presumably your definition of 'reality' would involve some kind of dynamic between your imagination and that which exists 'in actuality' - there are fundamental problems with that approach. Subjective consciousness and its relationship to experience for example. Is reality a constant? Science seem to be implying not.
@fishybishbash No, it doesn't involve that, and I agree with your assessment that there are fundamental problems with that, not least that thinking about it that way imagines you as being separated from reality. You picture yourself as "outside" reality "looking in" or, conversely as You "over here" and Reality "over there" interacting with each other, when instead reality transcends you. That need not stop you from recognising reality's internal consistency when appropriate ...
@rozeboosje Reality is transcendent then? Pretty subtle difference between transcendent and supernatural. Seems to me you just acknowledged that you have include such esoteric concepts if you want to arrive at anything like a sensible conception of the state of things as we currently understand them. Qualiasoup would disagree with you.
@fishybishbash I don't know about "subtle" but it's certainly an important one. Transcendence does not imply the need to believe in anything "outside reality" or "supernatural" or even "mystical".
@rozeboosje I would argue with that because to transcend means to go beyond normal limits and we're discussing reality, so that would equate to 'outside reality' (or above, if you like, still outside though). You don't perceive the universe as 'mystical', fair enough. i personally would go further and say the universe, in reality, is a truly magical place, at least for me. That may not be your point of view, which is fine, but it is NOT the product of 'highly flawed thinking'.
@fishybishbash That's not how I use "transcend". I use it in the sense of "surpass" but without the exclusive idea of other phrases such as being "better than" or "greater than". The Universe transcends us because it surpasses us even while we are an inextricable part of it. "magical", too, is one of those ambiguous words that I prefer not to use as it is often used to denote something that happens in complete contradiction with how reality ticks. And *that* is nonsense.
@fishybishbash Now you're throwing a red herring into the soup, my friend, and I am extremely intolerant of such tactics. Do not equivocate one interpretation of that phrase, i.e. nobody can grasp the whole of reality, and with that I fully agree, with you can't grasp any aspect of reality, which is nonsensical. If somebody tells you they saw a guy step off the edge of one skyscraper and walk through thin air on to the roof of another, you'd be perfectly entitled to tell them to get lost.
thanx for giving a shout out to qualiasoup. i have been subscribed to him and thermintrees for a long time now. and honestly they are my favorite channels to see new videos from, i can always depend on them giving me the top end quality of videos and arguments.
@rozeboosje What you're actually talking about here are states of mind. Surely 'open-mindedness' is in truth the suspension of pre-conception. Anyone who thinks that life is a Boris Karloff movie is not close minded, they're just an idiot. By the same token if you're determined not to accept anything until its splayed out on the lab table in front of you then you're presuming existence works in a certain way. The 2 viewpoints are 2 sides of the same coin.
@fishybishbash Certainly, but it's perfectly fair and reasonable to recognise, for example that an "argument" that starts with "you can't explain" should instead be read as "I can't explain", and that when the presenter then concludes that something "HAS to be ...", they are merely admitting that they lack the ability to imagine alternatives. It is perfectly valid to dismiss an "argument" construed on that template out of hand.
@rozeboosje So an example of your point would be to say 'I cant explain the origin of existence therefore it HAS to be that it was created by God'? Is that what you mean?
@fishybishbash That would be an excellent example. Add to that also that the person making that claim does not bother at all to explain what the eff a "god" is supposed to be.
@rozeboosje Well I suppose the universe is either 'self creating' which you could argue means the universe IS God - or it was made by some guy with a beard and glasses floating on a cloud. Either way, God did it.
@fishybishbash I wonder what would make someone think the universe (and I don't just mean what may be our own little local bubble in what people have started calling the "multiverse") was "created" at all?
Good video, that was a difficult point put very very simply I really liked it. Unfortunately you can make videos explaining dis-proof of religion at the most primitive level, spelling everything out and their ignorance will still allow them to ignore EVERYTHING you just said.
You're saying that ghosts don't exist and that they're just special effects. But I can't still explain why I've seen black figures rush across me if I turn around for a second.
@LivingdeadMetal if you caught it on camera it absorbed and/or reflected photons. That makes whatever you saw and photographed an object or entity made from ordinary matter, not a "ghost".
Well I don't have an animal the size of a human being, and the figure sure wasn't an illusion caused by the light and casting a shadow, it wasn't on the wall or floor.
@LivingdeadMetal I don't know the layout of your house. But if you took a photograph of it then it wasn't in your head. So it's in your house. Go find it. Stay open minded as to what it could possibly be, but remain sane and look for a natural phenomenon.
I've looked, no reflection or shadows or anything of the kind. It doesn't react to light like a shadow would, I rarely see it but it can appear anywhere, light or dark.
@LivingdeadMetal How the hell would *I* know. I don't know what your house is like, what's in it, where it's located, what the light conditions are, etc, etc, etc. All I know is that whatever the hell it is, it's *not* a "ghost". Have you ever published your photograph? Show it to someone like chattiestspike2 who has some idea of how to interpret imagery like that.
I'm just saying it wasn't a natural phenomenon. It was fog, like the fog you get in the woods. But my house isn't dusty, it's not cold so there cant be any fog, and if there was it wouldn't be moving by itself and in an almost sphere form.
@LivingdeadMetal You're just talking out of your back passage. "It was fog", well, then, fog is a natural phenomenon. You claim to have photographed it? More proof that it's a natural phenomenon. And if you didn't photograph it, even then it is a natural phenomenon, but it could be neurons misfiring in your brain in that case.
@LivingdeadMetal No. It's a fog-like black (black fog!?) 3-d shape that isn't fucking real? It was amusing for a few comments but now you're boring me. Pics or it didn't happen.
@LivingdeadMetal I think you're pissed because you've already tied down the idea that it's something outside of our descriptive abilities.
You have been told several minds that you are describing it with things that have already been defined as natural, yet you keep returning to the idea it is unnatural. Why are you so daft?
I'm not pissed, I've just gave all the descriptions I can of the thing that I've seen. If it was natural how come it never happened at the house I use to live in?
@LivingdeadMetal you assume that because something is natural it repeats itself everywhere.
Snowstorms are natural, why can't I seem to find any in Mexico this time of year?
And everything you've described COULD be rationalized, just because you can't find an answer doesn't mean it's automatically the cause of a higher power. For all you know aliens with technology beyond our comprehension could be playing tricks on your mind.
@rozeboosje BTW: When I wanted to watch the video you recommended, it said that because of the GEMA-situation (some german company that collects royalty for artists) I can't watch it. So in order to "get the word out" I now feel oblieged to make such a video... gonna post it as a reply to this one.
@rozeboosje I create everything in my vids (scripts, graphics and any music) but GEMA has made the inexplicable decision that when partners declare they're using music - even when they declare it's their own, as I did with the Open-mindedness vid - they still block videos from viewers in Germany.
It's just another one of the 'weird and wonderful' complications of the YouTube experience...
@QualiaSoup Oh...... I see what happened here. When you fill out that thing to enable revenue sharing, you only ever tick the box when you are using material created by *somebody else*. If all the music in your video was created by yourself you leave that box unchecked. German copyright law is odd, to say the least. Concepts such as "fair use" do not exist in Germany. I don't know how they put up with that sort of BS.
"Ghosts" require something for nothing. We can image and sense the entirety of the universe from the quantum foam to the entirety of the universe. "Ghosts" do not register and have never been detected or recorded by any equipment operated and run by those that both know what they are doing and have no stake either way in understanding the "supernatural". After all, electronic equipment (and film and other sensors) cannot be "close minded" because they do not have minds :D
Roae, sometimes the accusation of 'close mindedness' is 'almost' accurate as often a sceptic will announce an alternative dogmatically & without evidence.
In that sense, I am often sceptic of people that proclaim to be 'sceptics'. Otherwise, 'being sceptical' does not mean someone is a 'sceptic' but only within a specified context to an assertion they are being 'sceptical' about.
I have never been able to enjoy zucchini... It just tastes unpleasant to me so I'm not open-minded to it. Worse still it is way too hot for hot soup.
Hmmm a chilled cucumber soup with some shallots, fume blanc, yogurt... a dash of white pepper, and sea salt, and garnished with a pinch of dill weed... and medallions of pain ordinaire with some brie or camembert on the side... Ahhhh.
Now that is something in which I could blindly believe.
@DeathofSpeech I wouldn't like to eat soup with chunks of zucchini in it, but in this soup the zucchini are blended in, and it really is rather nice :-)
I didn't scoff ... first, I have an open mind and was hoping you had a valid point in this, but the "emanations" had me thinking "I could easily duplicate that" and thought of the many ways it could be done. One was Adobe After Effects, another was Open Movie Editor. LOL
KittenKoder 1 day ago
@KittenKoder Yeah, and it wasn't even as sophisticated as all that. LOL - I was illustrating a point. Badly, I guess XD
rozeboosje 1 day ago
@rozeboosje Not too badly, it was a well received point. I am just excessively open minded and often look for as many explanations for something then rule them out one at a time until ... I'm usually left with the truth or something that could lead to it. ;) I'm also highly technical to a fault, so my first guesses tend to follow that line.
KittenKoder 1 day ago
, and these statements instantly turn me off from listening to him let alone a believer in the paranormal.
All that is needed is to say... look, I feel this way... and here's why... There is no need to insult people or make to topic emotive, you will always either lose the argument, or have people simply switch off to you.
taramcnamara 2 weeks ago
@taramcnamara That's fine. I have no problem with you wishing to continue to live your life afraid of monsters under the bed and jumping at shadows. But I will laugh at you. Good thing for you is that nobody says you must listen to that. I state my case here, and if you find that objectionable, feel free to turn your back on it and "switch off". No hard feelings from me.
rozeboosje 2 weeks ago
Awww. What a shame... I stopped watching this at 2.5mins... and there was a chance that it was going somewhere too. For the record, I don't believe in ghosts, but some people do, and they believe that they have evidence to support their belief.
Whererozeboosje has gone wrong here is in "dissing" believers. He has insulted them by saying things such as "what's more likely"... "crazy ideas..." ghosts in mid air - whooo hoo hooo"
taramcnamara 2 weeks ago
Yeah I remember this old QualliaSoup video. Kinda surprises me that you're making a comment on this one now. Vid is old and I see no actual events where we have been served this "close-minded" line? Did soemeone told you that recently?
Knr911 2 months ago
@Knr911 It was three months ago when I posted this, but if I remember correctly, I was watching a v00d00sixxx video in which he was talking about open-mindedness and it reminded me of that old QualiaSoup video, and I thought it was a very memorable one and I had never given it props. So I reckoned better late than never :-)
rozeboosje 2 months ago
LOL: I just got asked to enter a validation code for that last comment. And the word was 'ranting'. :))
DaithiDublin 2 months ago
@DaithiDublin ROTFLMAO
rozeboosje 2 months ago
The stinky rape bit?
jerrygreg2 2 months ago
@jerrygreg2 Yeah, just saw it now. I guess "projection" seems to be this wee lad's main modus operandi.
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@rozeboosje I think you should just let him get it out of his system. It's therapy
jerrygreg2 2 months ago
@jerrygreg2 I'm just hoping poor Tyrese feels the same way! :¬)
DaithiDublin 2 months ago
@DaithiDublin I know I'm getting old now. I had to google Tyrese.
jerrygreg2 2 months ago
@jerrygreg2 I think Shamus is busy 'googling' Tyrese right now! Apparently he is the lad's 'nigga' who was interested in the size of my noodly appendage!
DaithiDublin 2 months ago
@DaithiDublin At first I thought it was an Anglicisation of Tiresias. Now there was a man. Er . . .
jerrygreg2 2 months ago
@jerrygreg2 I'm even older. I DID google Tyrese and I still don't get it. [blush]
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@rozeboosje you cause you're a fucking HOWLY SHIT LOL OMG AHAHAHA DUDE IM HAVING A BATHE AND I ALMOST DROPPED MY LAPTOP LOL HOL SHIT DUDE, THIS IS HEAVY
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
@Shamus8b8 Make sure you towel all the cracks and crevices afterwards as a rash can be very unpleasant.
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@rozeboosje I've got sudocream it doesn't work
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
@Shamus8b8 That can happen, especially if your butt REALLY hurts. Perhaps you could take some solpadeine as well. The pharmacist will give you a lecture but just let it go in one ear and out the other. Nod and smile.
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@rozeboosje i don't talk to pharmacist they're racist
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
@Shamus8b8 If in doubt, ask your mammie to powder your bumbum with talcum powder. Mixed with sudocrem in the worst case scenarios.
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@rozeboosje At 104, I'm surprised you can blush without your head exploding, but to be honest, I didn't really get it either. Just Shamus's fantasy I suppose.
jerrygreg2 2 months ago
@jerrygreg2 HIGH FIVE
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
@Shamus8b8 An American custom, how quaint.
jerrygreg2 2 months ago
@jerrygreg2 CHEERS
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
Oh, I forgot the rape bit . . .
jerrygreg2 2 months ago
@jerrygreg2 The what now?
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@jerrygreg2 Oh I see. LOL
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@rozeboosje Remind me not to call you pompus . . . er, pompous!
jerrygreg2 2 months ago
@jerrygreg2 Feel free to. I do enjoy indulging in the occasional display of pomposity or pedantry, especially when I know it's going to wind somebody up [grin].
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@rozeboosje Don't you live in Ireland? You can watch the fight too. Troublemaker ;)
jerrygreg2 2 months ago
@jerrygreg2 I do, but I no longer work down where DaithiDublin is right now. We moved down to Sandyford.
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@rozeboosje Just out of interest, you do realise that YT ticks all your sharing options when they change the setup don't you? You can't fart without your subscribers knowing about it!
jerrygreg2 2 months ago
@jerrygreg2 Apparently XD
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@jerrygreg2 What a pain! And my subscription box disappears from my channel unless I share new channels I sub to. Ah, I'm not getting started on that. I was happy to have actually learned something new here. Tiresias is new to me. Cheers, Jerry!
DaithiDublin 2 months ago
@DaithiDublin ;) I'm battening down the hatches now, 90mph winds about to hit here. My building's shaking! Bye . . .
jerrygreg2 2 months ago
@jerrygreg2 Aspergers build shitty homes
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
@DaithiDublin You are fucking autism man
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
@Shamus8b8 There's no T in awesome!
DaithiDublin 2 months ago
@DaithiDublin that's it you're fucking dead man, let's do this shit you fucker, i don't care if people are offended by me beating up an aspergegetic waste of sentience, you are miiine
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
@Shamus8b8 Vowels, consonants.. ..it's all very confusing for you, isn't it?
DaithiDublin 2 months ago
@DaithiDublin I'm putting on some fingerless gloves, you're it
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
I wanna see this . . . could you wait awhile, I've got to get to Cairnryan . . . ?
jerrygreg2 2 months ago
@jerrygreg2 Oh wow. In THIS weather? Are you driving or taking a ferry!?
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@rozeboosje Driving? I'l cycle as fast as my wee legs can pedal, then I'll swim!
jerrygreg2 2 months ago
@jerrygreg2 LOL
rozeboosje 2 months ago
What is this with mocking mental disorders? Let it go boys! ;)
jerrygreg2 2 months ago
@jerrygreg2 We have to be patient with our friend. He seems a little resistant to education :-)
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@jerrygreg2 racist fucker
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
lol what a pompus guy
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
@Shamus8b8 It is of the utmost importance that one capitalises one's sentences correctly. Appropriate punctuation is equally important and it is a testament to the inadequacy of your education that you fail to spell "pompous" in accordance with the Queen's English. One is not amused. Not amused at all.
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@rozeboosje stop being shallow you pompus prick
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
@Shamus8b8 Pray tell, what would be the consequences of my failure to comply with your demands? Please don't sulk or threaten to hold your breath until your head explodes.
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@rozeboosje drawing out a sentence like a pompus prick
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
@Shamus8b8 If I don't cease my pompousness you will respond by drawing out sentences like a pompous goodly appendage? That seems rather ambitious of you but by all means knock yourself out.
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@rozeboosje adding more syllables doesn't make you sound smart, pompus asshole
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
@Shamus8b8 While your feeble attempt to order me about on my own channel is a perfect illustration of your tenuous grasp on reality.
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@rozeboosje Just because I'm calling you what you are doesn't mean I'm ordering you around you pompus prick
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
@Shamus8b8 I am terribly sorry if your native language puts unbearable demands on your limited mental capacity and if my failure to comply causes you the kind of mental anguish that drives you to return to this comment section like a female dog in oestrus, but your statement "stop being shallow", despite its deplorable lack of proper capitalisation and punctuation was clearly an imperative sentence and thus a command. What is it like to have the memory span of a goldfish?
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@rozeboosje stop being an aspergers ridden aspergec autistic
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
@Shamus8b8 Again I must ask you: failure to comply with this second command will result in what penalties against me, exactly? What are you suggesting will happen if I do not do what you tell me to do? Are you going to throw a tantrum? Are you going to go tell teacher? It's a mystery to confound, but enquiring minds need to know.
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@rozeboosje you may have a pompus developmental disorder
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
@Shamus8b8 That is entirely possible. You, on the other hand, have rather a long way to go before the L plates can come off your trollmobile. I suggest you start focusing on becoming a bit less repetitive and to actually find out a bit more about what buttons you need to push in order to get the desired result.
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@rozeboosje Lol you got autism, that's cool man, also learn what trolling is before you try and use it
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
@Shamus8b8 Talking to one's self is the first sign of mental instability.
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@rozeboosje lol aspergers ruins lives
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
@Shamus8b8 People with Asperger syndrome often display intense interests, such as this boy's fascination with this comment section. Asperger's Syndrome is an autistic spectrum disorder that is characterised by significant difficulties in social interaction, alongside restrictive and repetitive patterns of behaviour and interests.
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@rozeboosje Sounds like you mr.autism
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
@Shamus8b8 And you're repeating yourself more than Friends.
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@rozeboosje cause you got autism, I can't just come up with complex shit you probably might won't understand, for all I know you probably oblongs and swirls where normal words go.
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
@Shamus8b8 "When an argument or a battle of wills develops, sometimes the AS child tries to drag the dialogue on and on, just so he can have the final word".
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@rozeboosje I have to disagree in the strongest possible terms to the idea that this wee troll has AS. As you know, two of the key indicators of AS that separates it from classic autism is an above average IQ and no delays in the onset of language acquisition. I'm leaning towards troll.
DaithiDublin 2 months ago
@DaithiDublin Dude look up what trolling is, you're using so fucking wrong
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
@Shamus8b8 re-arrange those words into a sentence and get back to me.
DaithiDublin 2 months ago
@DaithiDublin yo man you wanna fight? Let's meet up man where you live? Let's do this
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
@Shamus8b8 I'm next door to you. Meet you outside in five, let me finish my cup of tea first. Dress casual.
DaithiDublin 2 months ago
@DaithiDublin I'm gonna rape you so hard the room will stink. Yeah meet me in my room faggot, ma nigga tyrese wants to know how big yo dick is
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
@Shamus8b8 Ah, so you want to make love, not war? Sorry, brah, that doesn't float my boat. But hey, it's a free and colourful world. You and Tyrese have at it. Carpe Diem, lad. Carpe Diem!
DaithiDublin 2 months ago
@Shamus8b8 It's a bit strange calling someone a faggot and then wanting to compare dicks . . . just saying.
jerrygreg2 2 months ago
@DaithiDublin That is a very good point and very well made.
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@rozeboosje thank you
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
@Shamus8b8 Maybe I spoke too soon. Looks like we don't even know who is talking to whom.
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@rozeboosje "i·ro·ny
a technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated. Usually associated with people with Autism"
Shamus8b8 2 months ago
@Shamus8b8 Shamus has discovered the dictionary. There is hope for you yet, boy.
rozeboosje 2 months ago
@rozeboosje *noodly appendage - I hate the HTC autocorrection XD
rozeboosje 2 months ago
You may assert that you've edited in virtual wisps of smoke. I however know the truth. It's the visual manifestation of body odour. My proof? I've seen it in Viz comic, so take a shower young man.
jerrygreg2 4 months ago
@jerrygreg2 I humbly stand exposed. It's limburger cheese. I ADMIT it ... *sob* ... ARE YOU HAPPY NOW!?!?!?
rozeboosje 4 months ago
@rozeboosje Happy now. You made me Google Limburger Cheese!
jerrygreg2 4 months ago
this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life
Entropian2012 5 months ago
@Entropian2012 As you typed that you were looking at your own comment.
rozeboosje 5 months ago
@rozeboosje good one bro
Entropian2012 5 months ago
@Entropian2012 :-) Good sport
rozeboosje 5 months ago
rubbish
Omnicron4735 5 months ago
@Omnicron4735 satellite dish
rozeboosje 5 months ago
Its absolutely central. You made a glaring assumption which you are no more in a position to do than someone assuming a lampshade was subject to the attention of a passing poltergeist. You and I sir are not going to agree on this; its apples and oranges I'm afraid - please try avoid the temptation of assuming you are 'right' though. I'll try and keep an open mind if you will. I wish you all the best.
fishybishbash 5 months ago
@fishybishbash Good day
rozeboosje 5 months ago
In the sense that something that previously didn't exist now does (by whatever means). The specific set of events/circumstances at a particular time would provide the catalyst that results in the 'creation' of a new set of circumstances/phenomena.
fishybishbash 5 months ago
@fishybishbash "previously"? In the original sense of the word, "Universe" equates to "Reality", all that ever was, is and will be. Where would "previous" to that be?
rozeboosje 5 months ago
@rozeboosje In this case the 'instance' of the Universe in which we find ourselves. This 'instance' apparently depends on a process which exists in time and has a beginning, middle and an end. So, previous to that. If you're nervous of the word 'created', substitute 'generated'.
fishybishbash 5 months ago
@fishybishbash It's not entirely sure that we exist in an "instance" of "the Universe" rather than in the "actual" Universe, so I see no reason why I should adopt that as an a priori assumption. Reality certainly doesn't exist "in time", it transcends time along with anything else.
rozeboosje 5 months ago
@rozeboosje Basically I think qualiasoups viewpoint is coloured by his own assumptions just like anyone elses and I find it patronising. He offers a definition of open-mindedness which I think is only partially true and I dislike the implication that anyone who is drawn to the idea of divinity in nature is a deluded idiot. Now I must go and do some washing. Thanks for the chat.
fishybishbash 5 months ago
@fishybishbash I'm not sure he is actually implying that. I certainly wouldn't have a problem per se with the idea of "divinity" in nature although I don't see the need to label anything in nature as such, because the term has so often been used to indicate something "supernatural" and literally "outside reality" that I think that to revert to it will only lead to confusion. I can buy into the idea of transcendence, with "reality" ultimately transcending all.
rozeboosje 5 months ago
@rozeboosje That brings us back to the starting point for all these discussions - the nature of reality, which science does not seem to have a handle on at all. Presumably your definition of 'reality' would involve some kind of dynamic between your imagination and that which exists 'in actuality' - there are fundamental problems with that approach. Subjective consciousness and its relationship to experience for example. Is reality a constant? Science seem to be implying not.
fishybishbash 5 months ago
@fishybishbash No, it doesn't involve that, and I agree with your assessment that there are fundamental problems with that, not least that thinking about it that way imagines you as being separated from reality. You picture yourself as "outside" reality "looking in" or, conversely as You "over here" and Reality "over there" interacting with each other, when instead reality transcends you. That need not stop you from recognising reality's internal consistency when appropriate ...
rozeboosje 5 months ago
@rozeboosje Reality is transcendent then? Pretty subtle difference between transcendent and supernatural. Seems to me you just acknowledged that you have include such esoteric concepts if you want to arrive at anything like a sensible conception of the state of things as we currently understand them. Qualiasoup would disagree with you.
fishybishbash 5 months ago
@fishybishbash I don't know about "subtle" but it's certainly an important one. Transcendence does not imply the need to believe in anything "outside reality" or "supernatural" or even "mystical".
rozeboosje 5 months ago
@rozeboosje I would argue with that because to transcend means to go beyond normal limits and we're discussing reality, so that would equate to 'outside reality' (or above, if you like, still outside though). You don't perceive the universe as 'mystical', fair enough. i personally would go further and say the universe, in reality, is a truly magical place, at least for me. That may not be your point of view, which is fine, but it is NOT the product of 'highly flawed thinking'.
fishybishbash 5 months ago
@fishybishbash That's not how I use "transcend". I use it in the sense of "surpass" but without the exclusive idea of other phrases such as being "better than" or "greater than". The Universe transcends us because it surpasses us even while we are an inextricable part of it. "magical", too, is one of those ambiguous words that I prefer not to use as it is often used to denote something that happens in complete contradiction with how reality ticks. And *that* is nonsense.
rozeboosje 5 months ago
@rozeboosje You have absolutely no idea of 'how reality ticks'. Nobody does.
fishybishbash 5 months ago
@fishybishbash Now you're throwing a red herring into the soup, my friend, and I am extremely intolerant of such tactics. Do not equivocate one interpretation of that phrase, i.e. nobody can grasp the whole of reality, and with that I fully agree, with you can't grasp any aspect of reality, which is nonsensical. If somebody tells you they saw a guy step off the edge of one skyscraper and walk through thin air on to the roof of another, you'd be perfectly entitled to tell them to get lost.
rozeboosje 5 months ago
thanx for giving a shout out to qualiasoup. i have been subscribed to him and thermintrees for a long time now. and honestly they are my favorite channels to see new videos from, i can always depend on them giving me the top end quality of videos and arguments.
greycloud24 6 months ago
@greycloud24 absolutely
rozeboosje 6 months ago
@rozeboosje What you're actually talking about here are states of mind. Surely 'open-mindedness' is in truth the suspension of pre-conception. Anyone who thinks that life is a Boris Karloff movie is not close minded, they're just an idiot. By the same token if you're determined not to accept anything until its splayed out on the lab table in front of you then you're presuming existence works in a certain way. The 2 viewpoints are 2 sides of the same coin.
fishybishbash 5 months ago
@fishybishbash Certainly, but it's perfectly fair and reasonable to recognise, for example that an "argument" that starts with "you can't explain" should instead be read as "I can't explain", and that when the presenter then concludes that something "HAS to be ...", they are merely admitting that they lack the ability to imagine alternatives. It is perfectly valid to dismiss an "argument" construed on that template out of hand.
rozeboosje 5 months ago
@rozeboosje So an example of your point would be to say 'I cant explain the origin of existence therefore it HAS to be that it was created by God'? Is that what you mean?
fishybishbash 5 months ago
@fishybishbash That would be an excellent example. Add to that also that the person making that claim does not bother at all to explain what the eff a "god" is supposed to be.
rozeboosje 5 months ago
@rozeboosje Well I suppose the universe is either 'self creating' which you could argue means the universe IS God - or it was made by some guy with a beard and glasses floating on a cloud. Either way, God did it.
fishybishbash 5 months ago
@fishybishbash I wonder what would make someone think the universe (and I don't just mean what may be our own little local bubble in what people have started calling the "multiverse") was "created" at all?
rozeboosje 5 months ago
Good video, that was a difficult point put very very simply I really liked it. Unfortunately you can make videos explaining dis-proof of religion at the most primitive level, spelling everything out and their ignorance will still allow them to ignore EVERYTHING you just said.
no1here1 6 months ago
@no1here1 Of course, but I'm not doing it for their benefit ;-)
rozeboosje 6 months ago
Not all are fake!
LivingdeadMetal 6 months ago
@LivingdeadMetal not sure I know what you're talking about here?
rozeboosje 6 months ago
@rozeboosje
You're saying that ghosts don't exist and that they're just special effects. But I can't still explain why I've seen black figures rush across me if I turn around for a second.
LivingdeadMetal 6 months ago
@LivingdeadMetal I get that, too. Most of the time it's my cat.
rozeboosje 6 months ago
@rozeboosje
I don't even have a cat, and it's happened when I'm home alone.
LivingdeadMetal 6 months ago
@LivingdeadMetal It's probably your brain catching up with your eyes. I get that too, sometimes. Especially in high contrast settings.
rozeboosje 6 months ago
@rozeboosje
So you're saying it's probably my brain even when I saw a full 3d black figure? I even once catched it on camera.
LivingdeadMetal 6 months ago
@LivingdeadMetal if you caught it on camera it absorbed and/or reflected photons. That makes whatever you saw and photographed an object or entity made from ordinary matter, not a "ghost".
rozeboosje 6 months ago
@rozeboosje
A ghost is an entity, and it wasn't anything like a shadow from someone or an object, it moved by itself.
LivingdeadMetal 6 months ago
@LivingdeadMetal so it was an animal or a self propelled machine. It sure wasn't "supernatural".
rozeboosje 6 months ago
@rozeboosje
Well I don't have an animal the size of a human being, and the figure sure wasn't an illusion caused by the light and casting a shadow, it wasn't on the wall or floor.
LivingdeadMetal 6 months ago
@LivingdeadMetal I don't know the layout of your house. But if you took a photograph of it then it wasn't in your head. So it's in your house. Go find it. Stay open minded as to what it could possibly be, but remain sane and look for a natural phenomenon.
rozeboosje 6 months ago
@rozeboosje
I've looked, no reflection or shadows or anything of the kind. It doesn't react to light like a shadow would, I rarely see it but it can appear anywhere, light or dark.
LivingdeadMetal 6 months ago
@LivingdeadMetal You didn't look hard enough.
rozeboosje 6 months ago
@rozeboosje
What do you think it is then?
LivingdeadMetal 6 months ago
@LivingdeadMetal How the hell would *I* know. I don't know what your house is like, what's in it, where it's located, what the light conditions are, etc, etc, etc. All I know is that whatever the hell it is, it's *not* a "ghost". Have you ever published your photograph? Show it to someone like chattiestspike2 who has some idea of how to interpret imagery like that.
rozeboosje 6 months ago
@rozeboosje
I'm just saying it wasn't a natural phenomenon. It was fog, like the fog you get in the woods. But my house isn't dusty, it's not cold so there cant be any fog, and if there was it wouldn't be moving by itself and in an almost sphere form.
LivingdeadMetal 6 months ago
@LivingdeadMetal You're just talking out of your back passage. "It was fog", well, then, fog is a natural phenomenon. You claim to have photographed it? More proof that it's a natural phenomenon. And if you didn't photograph it, even then it is a natural phenomenon, but it could be neurons misfiring in your brain in that case.
Where's your photograph?
rozeboosje 6 months ago
@rozeboosje
It was FOG-LIKE? Happy?
LivingdeadMetal 6 months ago
@LivingdeadMetal No. It's a fog-like black (black fog!?) 3-d shape that isn't fucking real? It was amusing for a few comments but now you're boring me. Pics or it didn't happen.
rozeboosje 6 months ago
@rozeboosje
What's the matter, pissed because I've told you the truth? Seriously, stop being so declining.
LivingdeadMetal 6 months ago
@LivingdeadMetal final warning. Pics or GTFO
rozeboosje 6 months ago
@LivingdeadMetal I think you're pissed because you've already tied down the idea that it's something outside of our descriptive abilities.
You have been told several minds that you are describing it with things that have already been defined as natural, yet you keep returning to the idea it is unnatural. Why are you so daft?
Ingmatter 6 months ago
@Ingmatter
I'm not pissed, I've just gave all the descriptions I can of the thing that I've seen. If it was natural how come it never happened at the house I use to live in?
LivingdeadMetal 6 months ago
@LivingdeadMetal you assume that because something is natural it repeats itself everywhere.
Snowstorms are natural, why can't I seem to find any in Mexico this time of year?
And everything you've described COULD be rationalized, just because you can't find an answer doesn't mean it's automatically the cause of a higher power. For all you know aliens with technology beyond our comprehension could be playing tricks on your mind.
Ingmatter 6 months ago
@Ingmatter
I never said it was any "higher power", I was just desrcibing what I've seen.
LivingdeadMetal 6 months ago
@LivingdeadMetal Excuse my wording, I should've stated supernatural.
Ingmatter 6 months ago
Now you really got me thinking... about making such a video. Thanks, Roze!
tmafkap 6 months ago
@tmafkap :-) Looking forward to it!
rozeboosje 6 months ago
@rozeboosje BTW: When I wanted to watch the video you recommended, it said that because of the GEMA-situation (some german company that collects royalty for artists) I can't watch it. So in order to "get the word out" I now feel oblieged to make such a video... gonna post it as a reply to this one.
tmafkap 6 months ago
@tmafkap WTF - I thought QualiaSoup either produced his own artwork or he had somebody work with him.
rozeboosje 6 months ago
@rozeboosje I create everything in my vids (scripts, graphics and any music) but GEMA has made the inexplicable decision that when partners declare they're using music - even when they declare it's their own, as I did with the Open-mindedness vid - they still block videos from viewers in Germany.
It's just another one of the 'weird and wonderful' complications of the YouTube experience...
QualiaSoup 6 months ago
@QualiaSoup Oh...... I see what happened here. When you fill out that thing to enable revenue sharing, you only ever tick the box when you are using material created by *somebody else*. If all the music in your video was created by yourself you leave that box unchecked. German copyright law is odd, to say the least. Concepts such as "fair use" do not exist in Germany. I don't know how they put up with that sort of BS.
rozeboosje 6 months ago
@rozeboosje They don't make that clear, do they? They just ask if your video contains music. But I'll know for the future. Thanks!
QualiaSoup 6 months ago
"Ghosts" require something for nothing. We can image and sense the entirety of the universe from the quantum foam to the entirety of the universe. "Ghosts" do not register and have never been detected or recorded by any equipment operated and run by those that both know what they are doing and have no stake either way in understanding the "supernatural". After all, electronic equipment (and film and other sensors) cannot be "close minded" because they do not have minds :D
RyuDarragh 6 months ago
** corrections **
"Roze" &
" I am often sceptical of people that proclaim to be 'sceptics'"
MilitantPeaceist 6 months ago
Roae, sometimes the accusation of 'close mindedness' is 'almost' accurate as often a sceptic will announce an alternative dogmatically & without evidence.
In that sense, I am often sceptic of people that proclaim to be 'sceptics'. Otherwise, 'being sceptical' does not mean someone is a 'sceptic' but only within a specified context to an assertion they are being 'sceptical' about.
MilitantPeaceist 6 months ago
There are a ghost on this table. LOL hahah
carrotshead 6 months ago
Both are really good vids !
55ella2007k 6 months ago
Soup-er Natural.
Darw1n1st 6 months ago
@Darw1n1st "Suop-er Natural"
Oh Touché!
MilitantPeaceist 6 months ago
@Darw1n1st hehe, good one.
Knightyme 6 months ago
I propose the possibility that you have a steaming bowl of soup on the table and a ghost... though the ghost is completely invisible. ;-)
Lentils?
DeathofSpeech 6 months ago
@DeathofSpeech courgette
rozeboosje 6 months ago
@rozeboosje
I have never been able to enjoy zucchini... It just tastes unpleasant to me so I'm not open-minded to it. Worse still it is way too hot for hot soup.
Hmmm a chilled cucumber soup with some shallots, fume blanc, yogurt... a dash of white pepper, and sea salt, and garnished with a pinch of dill weed... and medallions of pain ordinaire with some brie or camembert on the side... Ahhhh.
Now that is something in which I could blindly believe.
Call it perceptual bias. LOL
DeathofSpeech 6 months ago
@DeathofSpeech I wouldn't like to eat soup with chunks of zucchini in it, but in this soup the zucchini are blended in, and it really is rather nice :-)
rozeboosje 6 months ago