The Pumpkins, such a great band. But after Jimmy died they slowly fell apart. Just wasn't the same. Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie was definitely their prime. How did he write all that music? Just a genius.
I love smashing pumpkins, and they as a band did a great job, i just thought Billy kind of screwed up the vocals. Now I don't think he sucks at singing, it's just I feel like he didn't even try.
I feel Billy's voice is incredible, I couldnt imagine anyone else singing Smashing Pumpkins songs. He has a unique voice with passion. To ever say he doesnt try is an insult ;). Has to be one of my favorite musicians, both lyrically, musically and singing ability. I suppose thats Billy's style, perhaps hes that comfortable with his songs that he seems calm and uninterested. I dont think anyone could sing them with this charisma.
ha ha my kids will too well im trying my best. trying to decide whether to see them live at birmingham next month, will it ever be as good as reading 95 or N.E.C birmingham when i saw them last with original line up???????
Billy Corgan siempre me ha parecido un personaje muy peculiar, es muy buen musico por una razón: Sabe exteriorizar, sabe expresar con su musica, es un buen interprétete, con una clara mentalidad artista y como consecuencia, en la vida real, seguramente un escéntrico.
Le admiro muchisimo por esa capacidad que tiene de "transmitir". Billy Corgan its a Great Music!!
@workingclassbum Good luck. Having lived the punk era I was forced to play grunge when I wanted to join a band in the mid-90s - and I loved it. As exciting as punk but all round better musically. My kids prefer listening to some ***** twat talking his way over someone else's music. Completely talentless as far as I'm concerned and banned from the car.
U know.id really love.to see them. Always been a fan, but.as much as I support billy in his new stuff.i cant.truly get into.it as much as these.classics and I dread tht if I do go see them, they wont play any old stuff.but all the.new stuff instead, sure enough I.hesistated and.they rolled.thru chicago this.weekend :/ kickin myself
@LiamKeez sorry for that mate... im 29 years old. first time i saw them i was 12 years old. it was a memory for all life! it was in the melln collie tour :D
The end part from minute 5:18 to the very ends is just... something else... O como diriamos aquí en México, el final es otro pedo!!!... What a great song, chingona rola!
Incredible how many people have commented how this song brings them back to a certain point of their life. Same here. Same with this whole album, if there was a "10 albums you could bring with you to an island" list, Siamese Dream is on that list.
as far DISLIKES go,i was tought if you have nothing nice to say,then don't say anything.Siamese Dream is one of the most beutiful and powerful albums ever made.every song is special.
it is just such a shame hearing Billy sing like this - it is agonising and destroys this beautiful song. At least I saw them in their peak when Billy still had his real singing voice........and of course there is always Siamese Dream
Billy Corgan must have the worst, most out of tune, screetchiest voice in rock ... but god damn does it work! Feel the hairs on the back of my neck every time I listen to this song. Pumpkins forever!!
@frididjurhuus Man I wish I could, my family is in a tight spot at the moment, but I've heard the whole album, it really is incredible, Spaceboy, Mayonaise, Hummer, Geek USA, cherub rock, disarm, ect I havent heard song I didnt love.
I cried just now....because great music like this is a thing of the past. I feel sorry for kids today. They will never have the great music that came out of the 90's. They get Lady Ga Ga and Bieber. So sad.
@JeffroTV I'm right there with you. Used to see so many great live bands....Sonic Youth, Bad Brains, Smashing Pumpkins, Jane's Addiction, the Pixies, Nirvana, et al. It's sad that my kids won't know the anticipation waiting for a concert, waiting for a CD to release, the energy of live shows, etc.
@TheWowMart - completely agree. I don't know the guys that played with them in Melbourne but Billy and Jimmy are enough for me. They sounded fabulous although they didn't play for the six or seven hours I was hoping. You can't always get what you want.
Has anyone thought, and i may be going out on a limb here, but maybe just maybe The Smashing Pumpkins could be considered the Pink Floyd of our generation? I mean when pink floyd came around the air waves were dominated my pop rock. They had a dark mystic dreamy style of music with hints of pop. They came out and captured the minds of true music lovers. The pumpkins did the same but stood up against grunge. But like i said I could be going out on a limb here.
how exactly debate on youtube ? they should bewatching something theyLIKE dont comin hating on what people like just save ur self the time idioy , justlike i wish i would have
@radddogg Being a teenager in the mid-90s, this song was soothing and always made me feel better. Those 58 people can eat a bag of weiners. Uncooked. No toppings. Frig off.
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Billy's the man right here yo.
vegasnegas111 2 days ago
Green Man!
MultiTanjo 3 days ago
Best song on SD, hands down. Trust me that says a lot.
bolivarBBF 5 days ago
do these guys get high?
bolinjosh2012 6 days ago
Is mayonnaise an instrument?
amosthree 1 week ago 2
is thw singer to smashing pumpkins the same singer to oasias or wezzer
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@justin20111000 no stupid
kshattz91 1 week ago
@kshattz91 its just a question. You don'y have to be a jerk about it.
justin20111000 1 week ago
@justin20111000 It's pretty sad that you thought there was any resemblance. lol
iGrunt 2 days ago
@workingclassbum : same here! rock on!!
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hartinb 3 weeks ago
Seen them sooo many times. Once in a high school gym. Practice show for Mellon Collie tour.
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@jeniowa really? you're lucky!
guilleskitz 3 weeks ago
magical
ihaveaverybadcold 3 weeks ago
The Pumpkins, such a great band. But after Jimmy died they slowly fell apart. Just wasn't the same. Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie was definitely their prime. How did he write all that music? Just a genius.
spyu 3 weeks ago
@spyu jimmy is alive the keyboardist died
thekidfromyesterday 3 weeks ago 2
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Zombiegeuse1977 3 weeks ago
incredible song,amazing.....from barcelona
TheMiki9876 4 weeks ago
Golden age for the Pumpkins.
satellax 4 weeks ago
So many warm summer nights at 3am in my dorm room jamming to this song with my headphones. Such an amazing song!
acp2483 1 month ago 4
I like a sandwich with my Mayonnaise!
brenhouse 1 month ago
That is the ultimate version of Mayonaise....the only thing missing is D'arcy
jackboot78 1 month ago
this is a song.
pumpkinsdrown 1 month ago
Fool nuff 2 almost b it, cool nuff 2 not quit see it =(
felixXxiano 1 month ago
Que cancionsota! Lo maximo!
adolfomontilva 1 month ago
Any pumpkins fan always comes back to this song,at least every couple of years .God bless billy. God bless you .
nomatawot 1 month ago 4
This song is one of my ten favorite songs of all time.
TheChevy0 2 months ago 5
epic
Bigschwang 2 months ago
Beautiful song. Always good to listen to when you're feeling down.
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gave me serious chills.like my soul seperates and came back to me. after this i felt iike iam reborn =) what a fuckn great song.
God bless you.thank you.goodnight.
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illdieyoung 2 months ago
Musically one of the most beautiful songs ever.
pegasuswindows 2 months ago 7
I love smashing pumpkins, and they as a band did a great job, i just thought Billy kind of screwed up the vocals. Now I don't think he sucks at singing, it's just I feel like he didn't even try.
BnHwrd 2 months ago
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I feel Billy's voice is incredible, I couldnt imagine anyone else singing Smashing Pumpkins songs. He has a unique voice with passion. To ever say he doesnt try is an insult ;). Has to be one of my favorite musicians, both lyrically, musically and singing ability. I suppose thats Billy's style, perhaps hes that comfortable with his songs that he seems calm and uninterested. I dont think anyone could sing them with this charisma.
Listn2CKY 2 months ago
@bnz500 were you born too stupid to understand a joke or was it something you had to work hard at?
workingclassbum 2 months ago
Q_Q
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esta mayonesa si me gusta
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smashingradiohead 2 months ago
なんだ頭緑色じゃないじゃんw
tomigon0306 2 months ago
rock it Billy!
satanicinternational 2 months ago
epicness right here folks..kids today have no clue what real music is....
HotShotVQ35 2 months ago
@HotShotVQ35 I'm 13 and the pumpkins are one of my favorite bands. Yea, most kids suck today, but not all of them.
TheJaded1039 2 months ago
@TheJaded1039 you must have some cool person in you life with great taste! And you do too
pic1632 2 months ago
when someone asks me what my favorite song is i always say that i don't have one
but every time i hear this song i question that...
RawrBiznatch 2 months ago
that is so cool at 3:20
redbluffhill1 2 months ago
this song is all that..
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ThiefMuzik 3 months ago
ha ha my kids will too well im trying my best. trying to decide whether to see them live at birmingham next month, will it ever be as good as reading 95 or N.E.C birmingham when i saw them last with original line up???????
chippyglenn1 3 months ago
@chippyglenn1 Short answer no, long answer? There isn't one :)
theonekeyblade 2 months ago
武道館!!あ~行きたかったなあ~~
kuokouz 3 months ago
Billy Corgan siempre me ha parecido un personaje muy peculiar, es muy buen musico por una razón: Sabe exteriorizar, sabe expresar con su musica, es un buen interprétete, con una clara mentalidad artista y como consecuencia, en la vida real, seguramente un escéntrico.
Le admiro muchisimo por esa capacidad que tiene de "transmitir". Billy Corgan its a Great Music!!
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I missed you. I'm sorry. I forgive you. I forget you. I just want you. Doomed.
MentalTeleprosy 3 months ago
My kids are going to grow up to 90's rock/grunge whether they like it or not!
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@workingclassbum Ooooooh, they WILL like it (:
FriedChickenofDeath6 3 months ago
@workingclassbum Fascist pig
bnz500 2 months ago
@workingclassbum Good luck. Having lived the punk era I was forced to play grunge when I wanted to join a band in the mid-90s - and I loved it. As exciting as punk but all round better musically. My kids prefer listening to some ***** twat talking his way over someone else's music. Completely talentless as far as I'm concerned and banned from the car.
rippenburn 1 month ago 2
U know.id really love.to see them. Always been a fan, but.as much as I support billy in his new stuff.i cant.truly get into.it as much as these.classics and I dread tht if I do go see them, they wont play any old stuff.but all the.new stuff instead, sure enough I.hesistated and.they rolled.thru chicago this.weekend :/ kickin myself
pwr70 3 months ago
I'm eating sausage rolls while listening to this.
Served with ketchup and MAYONAISE.
tarvupriest 3 months ago
@tarvupriest i get it. good one
anderghandi 3 months ago
the heaviest mellow band ever!!
98maximatom 3 months ago
beautiful song
period.
mdogg094 3 months ago
So close to the big 1,000,000!
brandonraytyler 3 months ago
WE NEED THE REISSUES.
QuarantineThePast 3 months ago
God bless you Billy. This music makes me cry with my nostalgie.
The top 10 music list in my life has at least 5 from SP.
xistotube 3 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Smashing Pumpkins
The music is really nostalgic for me but Billy's voice is just terrible here...
BarstoolBlues33 3 months ago
I'm so happy I grew up with this music, and it helped shape me to be the person I am today... dream
ressedeltoro 4 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Smashing Pumpkins
My mood is falling down......
paniko77 4 months ago
I like how he doesn't skip the high notes live. I know how hard it is not to sometimes.
manka6 4 months ago
I clicked on this because Billy looks like an alien in the thumbnail
thespainisharmada 4 months ago 38
@thespainisharmada He is an alien! :o
loonatic7 1 month ago
@thespainisharmada I thought his head was a floating green ball XD
heartshapedlife2 3 weeks ago
I just wish I could go back in time and see these guys live. I'm a massive fan but im 15 :\
LiamKeez 4 months ago
@LiamKeez dude they're touring uk this year, get yoself a ticket!
2bobthetramp 4 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Smashing Pumpkins
@2bobthetramp live in Australia D:
LiamKeez 3 months ago
@LiamKeez sorry for that mate... im 29 years old. first time i saw them i was 12 years old. it was a memory for all life! it was in the melln collie tour :D
efloraeff 3 months ago
Makes me cry!!
Perom83 4 months ago
this song just added another reason to why mayonaise is awesome.
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ACLVmusic 4 months ago
us us us us us
pereort 4 months ago
Que música mais linda e foda ao mesmo tempo!
etierl 4 months ago
my fav song!!!!!!!
ilovesui 4 months ago
The end part from minute 5:18 to the very ends is just... something else... O como diriamos aquí en México, el final es otro pedo!!!... What a great song, chingona rola!
eeeeelliot 4 months ago
awesome;;;;
77jennifertorres 4 months ago
I miss Jimmy. Screw that bloody adolescent he's got drumming for him now
bobm3k 4 months ago in playlist Smashing Pumpkins Vids & Live Gems 2
my favorite smashing pumpkin song...i started the chant in houston to sing this song last year!! It felt great!!
Spidervsvenom 5 months ago
great song!!
edijef 5 months ago
Incredible how many people have commented how this song brings them back to a certain point of their life. Same here. Same with this whole album, if there was a "10 albums you could bring with you to an island" list, Siamese Dream is on that list.
theMidnightGoggles 5 months ago 2
as far DISLIKES go,i was tought if you have nothing nice to say,then don't say anything.Siamese Dream is one of the most beutiful and powerful albums ever made.every song is special.
dkitty8124 5 months ago 2
i didnt know voldemort could sing and play guitar
javitojh 5 months ago 2
@javitojh everybody knows that Voldemort's real name is Joe Satriani
JendoN14 5 months ago
@JendoN14 Satriani is a robot. Corgan cums in his musical ear hole anyday
louiscfc93 5 months ago
@javitojh yes but joe satriani has a nose
javitojh 5 months ago
I just accidentally ate miracle whip that expired about a year and a half ago and thought of this song.
TheTolczyk 5 months ago
it is just such a shame hearing Billy sing like this - it is agonising and destroys this beautiful song. At least I saw them in their peak when Billy still had his real singing voice........and of course there is always Siamese Dream
kramasop 5 months ago
fuhhhh nostalgia :'(
95AnnieAnnie95 5 months ago
sounds horrble lolol
teskourneofgoldshire 5 months ago
Many a bong hits were taken with this playing in my apartment in Chicago between 1993-1997.
calstevelee 5 months ago
It just doesn't get much better than this....does it? Viva los 90's!!!
albertinoRRT 5 months ago
Billy Corgan must have the worst, most out of tune, screetchiest voice in rock ... but god damn does it work! Feel the hairs on the back of my neck every time I listen to this song. Pumpkins forever!!
headofwords 5 months ago
Wow i hate my generation. i wish i was born before the 90's -.-
Kelexable 5 months ago
58 fatties thought this video was about real mayonaise
h0b0ch1c 5 months ago 57
@h0b0ch1c hahahahahaha sooo goood
GibbyGlove 5 months ago
I want to go back to that time too..........:(Just amazing and complete, take me home.
yikescat56 5 months ago
Anyone reckon they'll tour after tear garden by kaleidoscope?
ihatejamesbp 5 months ago
I cannot find a fucking album version of this ): this is still amazing though...
MutantCheeseBurgers 5 months ago
@MutantCheeseBurgers Get the album, you won't regret it!
frididjurhuus 5 months ago
@frididjurhuus Man I wish I could, my family is in a tight spot at the moment, but I've heard the whole album, it really is incredible, Spaceboy, Mayonaise, Hummer, Geek USA, cherub rock, disarm, ect I havent heard song I didnt love.
MutantCheeseBurgers 5 months ago
que Nostalgia ... los90`fueron dificiles e inmensamente melancolicos
HAZCORRERLABOLA 5 months ago
nostalgic.
kaweichan1 5 months ago
I am torn right now. I have always been a big Smashing Pumpkins fan but never realized they wrote a tribute song for the worst condiment ever.
HOLDTHATMAYO 5 months ago 4
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liveslowlivesimple 5 months ago
what kind of tuning is this song in??
hyghiaumtym 6 months ago
@hyghiaumtym
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Bb
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Crazy, huh?
rokrguy93 5 months ago 3
@rokrguy93 only from the mind of corgan haha \m/
hyghiaumtym 5 months ago
ahh European tour in November! Hope they come to Ireland!
roisina1 6 months ago
mayonnaise is delicious but Mayonnaise rocks
chemicalswings 6 months ago
loucelmwlgksddg
anamali1 6 months ago
I miss the SP.. i grew up with their songs...
dhagz32rock 6 months ago
@dhagz32rock me too, siamese dream is their best album and was the soundtrack to my youth!
daveballard3 5 months ago
what a brilliant song!!!!
electronicmedium 6 months ago
First time I hear this song, thought I heard Oasis...
fvanheck 6 months ago
57 people eat Mayonaise from the jar
pokeyplant 6 months ago
Jimmy Chamberlain is irreplaceable. Unquestionably.
cvframer 6 months ago
@cvframer Totally!
ollieann33 6 months ago
@cvframer agreed... look a the band when they didnt have him. He is irreplaceable
electronicmedium 6 months ago
I don't like mayonnaise, but I like Mayonaise. :p
ColorfulHyena 6 months ago
its hard to take this song seriously... mayonaise haha
Chimpaliciousness 6 months ago
i love the pumpkins and the pumpkins love me
krapach1 6 months ago
How in the hell could someone dislike this song.
It has gotten me through my parents divorce, stupid break ups, and my mom having cancer.
I love you mom
R.I.P
MutantCheeseBurgers 6 months ago 5
I miss Smashing Pumpkins so much! I never had the chance to see them live.... so sad... :( But their music is in my heart.
mieschglenn 6 months ago
@mieschglenn See them live on the next tour, the new lineup is great. I think you'll enjoy seeing them.
nicholsjoshua15 6 months ago
I cried just now....because great music like this is a thing of the past. I feel sorry for kids today. They will never have the great music that came out of the 90's. They get Lady Ga Ga and Bieber. So sad.
JeffroTV 7 months ago 2
@JeffroTV I'm right there with you. Used to see so many great live bands....Sonic Youth, Bad Brains, Smashing Pumpkins, Jane's Addiction, the Pixies, Nirvana, et al. It's sad that my kids won't know the anticipation waiting for a concert, waiting for a CD to release, the energy of live shows, etc.
bongzynskywycz 7 months ago
@JeffroTV
There are plenty of great bands today. People your age in the 90s were saying the same thing about your generation's music.
SLDPotato 7 months ago 2
beautiful. one of my favorite songs
RatmTelecaster 7 months ago
I typed in Pumpkins live, as I clicked search, this song came into my head, and it was first on the list. weird!
chronicreptile 7 months ago
i can't tell you how many times, in the 90's, i laid down on the floor of my room, with my head between two speakers and played this song.
i want to go back to that time in my life :(
ri394 7 months ago 103
@ri394 i was born in the 90s i still do this
waesk1 7 months ago
@ri394 i posted your comment on my fb and said 'where are these cool ppl? cuz they aren't on facebook' lol
TheKellbrad 5 months ago
@ri394 Live life through the windshield, not the rearview mirror.
purebusiness11 5 months ago
@ri394 This album defines the whole summer i met my first ever serious girlfriend. A happy time in my life
poontangsta1 5 months ago
@ri394 did exactly the same thing, but with prodigy.... So want to go back
kotsaris87 4 months ago
THE song of the album
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This song still raises the goosebumps and brings a reminiscent tear.
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This song still raises the goosebumps and brings a reminiscent tear.
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if the world ended this would be the last song i'd want to hear.
marielle0319 7 months ago
greatness
SkirtSoPlain 7 months ago
i saw them that year in edmonton and they sucked.... i don't know why? i love them ... just wish they could have rocked when i saw them
MrDax099 7 months ago
@MrDax099 Perhaps your mind was elsewhere on the night, under stress perhaps?
leopheard 7 months ago
55 people have their ears painted on
TheMoofloyd 7 months ago
@TheWowMart - completely agree. I don't know the guys that played with them in Melbourne but Billy and Jimmy are enough for me. They sounded fabulous although they didn't play for the six or seven hours I was hoping. You can't always get what you want.
ChildrenOfAtlantis 7 months ago
Has anyone thought, and i may be going out on a limb here, but maybe just maybe The Smashing Pumpkins could be considered the Pink Floyd of our generation? I mean when pink floyd came around the air waves were dominated my pop rock. They had a dark mystic dreamy style of music with hints of pop. They came out and captured the minds of true music lovers. The pumpkins did the same but stood up against grunge. But like i said I could be going out on a limb here.
Musician926 7 months ago 6
how exactly debate on youtube ? they should bewatching something theyLIKE dont comin hating on what people like just save ur self the time idioy , justlike i wish i would have
josephlabombard 7 months ago
@sailorblumoon billy plus jimmy equals win rest can be session guys
TheWowmart 7 months ago
55 deaf people clicked on this?
TheWowmart 7 months ago
this song is a gift from god.
johnpatricklopez 7 months ago 4
55 people's lives are so empty they think disliking something awesome makes them special.
radddogg 8 months ago 90
@radddogg I doubt that's what they were thinking, I mean really
cartelwarlord 7 months ago
@radddogg Haha I love this comment! Why dislike something? negitivity shmegitivity, I say.
BAM4420 7 months ago
@radddogg i think thats the real reason why there are always some dislikes in great songs on youtube lmao
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@radddogg or...they disliked the song...
borncolorful 5 months ago 3
@radddogg Being a teenager in the mid-90s, this song was soothing and always made me feel better. Those 58 people can eat a bag of weiners. Uncooked. No toppings. Frig off.
Drakkhim 5 months ago
@Drakkhim not even some MAYONAISE?
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cafeledavid 4 months ago
@radddogg Or maybe they just weren't impressed with the way Billy missed those pinch harmonics during the intro?
meelzonweelz69 4 months ago
Mr.Bung needs to put down the bong. Most dislike comments here are from full who probably think Sum41 and avril combine are the most talented. Opinions vary but, even God would tell you to stfu.
Drew978 8 months ago
an all time favorite top 3, if not, nr. 1!
To me this song will remain BREATHTAKING, till the day I die,
no matter how old that'll be. Awesome & gracious at the same time.
esmereldah 8 months ago
This is my probably my favorite vlive video ever. GO BILLY!!!
freakboy1992 8 months ago
Jauuuwwwn.
mdustinelliott 8 months ago
True fact, did you all know he is the grandson of Uncle Fester
2chillout 8 months ago 3
oh how i love the memories that you are
thestarlajune 8 months ago
Gotta love mayonaise
electronicmedium 8 months ago
One of their best songs
MrDylanWright 8 months ago
I have a smashed pumpkin heart
Anassuir 8 months ago
solid tune !! solid band !!!
busty1986 8 months ago
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billy corgin sucks balls. overated!! more like smashing penises because they sucks
falexarzan 8 months ago
Pure sonic genius.
calstevelee 8 months ago
How to play tihs song? What the chords?
VladislavYe 9 months ago