lol this guy does the same thing as i do THE EXACT SAME STUFF LOL i always end up in first place no matter if i just joined my highest point record (n i didn't even realize tis ) was 930 points i think on final ignition
Some other dudes comment. Youtube of course messed it up and it appeared as a normal comment. Btw, as I asked in another video of his: Why doesn't you compensate for the tank movement and missile travel time when RPG'ing? Srsly. Maybe you being the Number 1 fan can enlighten me.
I didn't see a dot, i did not see him glitching, and he is not making vidoes about politics. Therefore, yo are incorrect. Knifing people isn't cheating, editing isn;t cheating.
Hmm, that was alright, just wish I met more of a challange on BFBC, I seem to beat everyone every game, 200+ points than the person who comes 2nd (I know I never heard of second either)
Alright I will, even though I havn't been playing BFBC since Killzone 2 and have been playing BF1943, I still play it, but only in and out, but for some reason, after like 1 or 2 games I come top of the leaderboard every round, add me AlExO_Ex0
I also agree about JDV being a total idiot, one of his 'Expert Hints and Tips Videos' He boasts about being so great in a tank and drives into the red zone on Harvest Day and commits suicide and still posts the video to Utube, FAIL.
Man, we put these videos on here for fun. y u gotta get all serious and be like 'im better tha u' it aint about being the best its about having fun!(its a game!) to all u hater fags outthere i spit on you! BY THE WAY, CHECK OUT MY VIDEOS!!!!! =D
These fucking noob just don't get it. Each round if I were to record everyday and edit everyday I would have over 3 montages a day. I'm sure Andres can do it too. Montage aren't record day by day u fucking noob. They are recorded when the person feel like recording a game or two. As u can see he use Camera like I do so which mean u can't record as much. If he were to record everyday he gonna need a 50GB flash drive on his memory stick. You fucking noobs are just one of JDV pet hahahahaha.
Oh no Andreas the commenting page has gone south!.
Its a very interesting debate especially the last one - montages aren't raw footage from 'days and days' of recording. I have 6 hours spare, can you please sometime upload your next part of un-edited footage?? LOL
Haters get yourself in check, I'd like to see your videos??
WTF JDV you not that fucking big you moron. You can't pull this video like you some fucking important company. YOu are a FUCKING NoOB yep I said it you a fucking noob. ADD me up and see what happen fag.
No you shit. WE didn't gang up on JDV we just saying what is true. Are you a fucking noob saying wow JDV is so entertaining WTF. Have u seem JDV video he too fucking high on himself. WTF "I'm the best at tank, you just don't go against JDV in a tank" lol. JDV can't kill an enemy for shit. He just try to find a way to fucking GOLD BASH. and if you don't like what I said you just add me if you have a PS3. I'll show u who the fucking noob. Oh yeah why don't you play the way JDV play.
ps. At least JDV talks and tries to interact and have fun even if he gets a tad carried away. Grow up you swedish turd, there ARE LOADS OF PEOPLE BETTER THAN YOU AT THIS GAME!!!! and your montage is boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring, just a load of kill recordings, fuk, if I recorded all my kills it would look very similar to yours noooob!
Andreas Woulda kick JDV ass even if Andreas play with 1 hand hahaa. YOu GOLD basher it pathetic the way you play it just suck so u can admit it. WTF who care if u use to be a Gamespot worker. No one give a damn about it. Wait u used to is that mean you got out because of your cockyness.???
JDV ALL I can say is YOUR GAMEPLAY SUCKKKKKK yep I said it and add me up I promise I'll make u look like a clown wait u already are a clown hahahhaahah.
You are a failure. The day I picked up this game I was better than you in your 'expert" videos. Get over your cocky ass "I could have this video taken down" self. You are not all that. you brag at the fact that you play thousands of video games. wtf man. ease up on the hater-ade and realize you actually suck
your saying Andreas doesnt have a life? hahaha the man get swedish babes that are hotter than any girl you'll ever come across. make fun of him cause of his job? well i can easily make fun of you cause your not a lawyer thus inferior to me. he gets money, babes and the time he wants. your the one who doesnt have a life. you post up hundreds of videos on youtube only to get a couple of views.
you say your good at tanking? look at unholy,hooofarted,melodrama they are true tankers they get the crate kill and stop the team. the teams you play against are noobs, play against some real players that are on the ps3 like darkblaze, kockulees, celtics and alot more players. not timmy whos 6 years old. or a noobie who just got the game. besides your tank whoring is weak. it took you forever to get a crate. play against wanton or glock you will explode the instance you get in it.
if montages show only good footage, why dont you make one? make one that doesnt consist of blowing yourself up with an rpg or using a specialist gun as a sniper. look at real players like my man wanton and glock. see you wont lay the f down. they have montages cause they dont want to make you see them running forever to the crate or the average kill. they want people to see what they can do. like c4 the f out of vehicles or blast someones face through the wall with c4.those are true good players
they dont have any balls to actually practice and get good by themselves like most GOOD people do. the only inspiration here is my man andreas, who never glitches or cheats. hes godly with the demo kit, hes inspired me to do some of the shit he does. all you did was make me laugh my f'in ass off. sixth you bash montages. im not gonna sit there and watch 12 minutes of gameplay, only to learn nothing new. thats when montages come in. they are clips of great gameplay that shows the players skill
third you say your the best because you have friends that are in the top leaderboards. thats like saying im the best because im friends with obama. that logic fails at every degree. Fourth you say the knife is cheap. the only reason why you say that is you probably suck with it and get knifed alot. its effective and fun to use. why waste precious ammo when you can knife a fool. fifth you say people follow your advice? thats cause kids these days will do anything they see and hear.
dude JDV are you delusional? My buddy Andreas is a whole lot better than you can ever be. First the only reason why you get "so many views" is because people laugh at your arrogance. they find it hilarious that a person that sucks so bad would be this cocky. Second you say your the best but you rpg walls on yourself and you take over ten minutes to find the right spot with your boat in order to shoot down the crate only to get sniped.
My moms basement? Let me laugh. I really don't like putting it this way, but: Trust me, internet hero, Google my name and we'll see who's really achieved something here.
LOL. It's called lag, and happens even when you shoot people. Only difference is, that when you shoot people you wont notice it. Very common in this game. Hence why you get shot even though you're behind cover sometimes.
RolandVosje, do you play BC? Yea they look fake, but he's got skill at doing it, knifing is all sorts of messed up in BFBC, but he's making it work. The BFBC2 trailers have shown throat slitting ala MGS4, so you should be happy with that! :)
At the beginning of his first "Expert tips" video, he's speaking loud of his talent and skills for shooting down a chopper on Easy mode in single player campaign. Even though the chopper is as stll as a dead dog in the air, he misses his first two rockets, and takes him down with the third rocket. Then he says: "This is what I do. I win games".
lmao No I don't need to google him! I've ben laughing at those things for quite a while too, are you saying "Thank god for single player mode" is just another JDV reference? lol
Ugh I suck at rocketing helis, I always run to the AA or various gun turrets. @ 3:54, you wrote "Thank god for single player mode," so where in the 1P campaign can I can practice that?
if i could have recorded yesterday i did 1 of the most amazing things i blew up gerrf up in a tank on fnal ignition in the last base. i put a designator on him so he drove into the 3 story building and i managed to get it through the window on the roof squeez it past the stairs and boom i made gerrf look like a rookie. 1 proberly 1 of the best if not thee best designator you will ever see
man im glad i was in your team last night Andreas lol. look forward to being on your team more often so we can be the ultimate demo gruesome twosome lol.
i'm the king 8-) gfmfa rocks
pfmfa 1 year ago
John D. Villarreal (JDVSuperGenius) is NOT the king
i watched him several times....
Youmuch more better
Even my 14-year old clanleadr is better!!!
okok... i only saw his vids but i´m not really statisfied with his skills
BUT great vid AND vor skill is awesome
see u on Battlefield
Greets by I-_Darkstunn_-I
stunngun99 2 years ago
Hehe, I know. This video is just taking the piss out of him. I don't really like him at all :)
AoWANDOFSWE 2 years ago
don´t forget to pre-order bc2
i look foreward to make my own´vids with bc2!!!
stunngun99 2 years ago
YOU USE SHOTGUN MEAN BIG NOOB BOY PUSSY
scottishman7878 2 years ago
1 - To be honest I hate you knifers who just chase someone endlessly as he kills your friends.
2 - Andreas of Swe rocks with the knife and the NS one of the few pro demos who does both, I respect him.
3 - Remember me.. a500hours? I knifed the AoW clan, I got like 20 dogtags of you guys.
4 - The only good guy in that clan is andreas. He fucking rules.
500hours 2 years ago
lol this guy does the same thing as i do THE EXACT SAME STUFF LOL i always end up in first place no matter if i just joined my highest point record (n i didn't even realize tis ) was 930 points i think on final ignition
zooyorkchild45 2 years ago
yo dude wtf? that dude sucks so bad at this game and posts videos of him failing , are you for real or is this a pisstake?
IrelandOG 2 years ago
Of course it's a pisstake.
AoWANDOFSWE 2 years ago
good lol
IrelandOG 2 years ago
JDV is a fatheaded egomaniac with no life and gay fanboys on YouTube. Pathetic
manntisprayer 2 years ago 4
Lol at the lag on Bad Company
RLHubner 2 years ago
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Axer2012 2 years ago
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Axer2012 2 years ago
cool vids but i think you orter make some montages
UntameProductions 2 years ago
I lol'd at the dot...
Darthprotos 2 years ago
Dot?
AoWANDOFSWE 2 years ago
Some other dudes comment. Youtube of course messed it up and it appeared as a normal comment. Btw, as I asked in another video of his: Why doesn't you compensate for the tank movement and missile travel time when RPG'ing? Srsly. Maybe you being the Number 1 fan can enlighten me.
Darthprotos 2 years ago
JDV he dots???
Is your enormously huge ego blinding you from the dot right there in the middle of the screen that DICE put there?
Ya thought so
Mr. I'm the expert at tanks, play against some real players and you'll see how your expert tanks skills get destroyed
sabresfan6119 2 years ago
I didn't see a dot, i did not see him glitching, and he is not making vidoes about politics. Therefore, yo are incorrect. Knifing people isn't cheating, editing isn;t cheating.
mothman838 2 years ago
hahaha someone had an EPIC FAIL at 2:24... failed to get the AWESOME rocket man with a rocket... and missed BAD!!!!
Good stuff as always
Gash
piatt12 2 years ago
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Espen005 2 years ago
Nicely edited video once again :)
Hope you'll encounter JDV on your visit to PS3
finbfcmake9 2 years ago
lol JdV = Andrea's bitch
lordofthejewsjr 2 years ago
Hmm, that was alright, just wish I met more of a challange on BFBC, I seem to beat everyone every game, 200+ points than the person who comes 2nd (I know I never heard of second either)
Dont believe me?
PSN: AlExO_EX0
AleXoEx0 2 years ago
maybe we should play some time i like to play tactialy :) my gt is Bannana Wafflez
bf2dabom 2 years ago
Im only on PSN on BFBC, but if you got that i'll add you
AleXoEx0 2 years ago
I will be on PSN next week. Try me.
AoWANDOFSWE 2 years ago
Alright I will, even though I havn't been playing BFBC since Killzone 2 and have been playing BF1943, I still play it, but only in and out, but for some reason, after like 1 or 2 games I come top of the leaderboard every round, add me AlExO_Ex0
AleXoEx0 2 years ago
I also agree about JDV being a total idiot, one of his 'Expert Hints and Tips Videos' He boasts about being so great in a tank and drives into the red zone on Harvest Day and commits suicide and still posts the video to Utube, FAIL.
AleXoEx0 2 years ago
Aye I suck at using the knife? Any tips for face to face knife kills? The first song was trippy, what's it called?
Axer2012 2 years ago
Read the description...
FiresforFires 2 years ago
dude my only problem is the internet :P if I had a better one you would get me in AoW :D not trying to be a show-off
altair3feb 2 years ago
If I may ask, why do you use AN94? Its a good AR but Im just curious to know why you use it.
fulerguy 2 years ago
Man, we put these videos on here for fun. y u gotta get all serious and be like 'im better tha u' it aint about being the best its about having fun!(its a game!) to all u hater fags outthere i spit on you! BY THE WAY, CHECK OUT MY VIDEOS!!!!! =D
StuchFlex 2 years ago
Hey man i didnt know u made movies! nice video m8 it, nice style! unique to you. look forward to ur next.......
StuchFlex 2 years ago
Andreas your fuking dope!
iamstork 2 years ago
These fucking noob just don't get it. Each round if I were to record everyday and edit everyday I would have over 3 montages a day. I'm sure Andres can do it too. Montage aren't record day by day u fucking noob. They are recorded when the person feel like recording a game or two. As u can see he use Camera like I do so which mean u can't record as much. If he were to record everyday he gonna need a 50GB flash drive on his memory stick. You fucking noobs are just one of JDV pet hahahahaha.
ghostpilot01 2 years ago
Days and days of playing?
If some of you idiots took your time and read the montage info, you'd see that I record my footage during 4-5 ROUNDS of Battlefield: Bad Company.
AoWANDOFSWE 2 years ago
Oh no Andreas the commenting page has gone south!.
Its a very interesting debate especially the last one - montages aren't raw footage from 'days and days' of recording. I have 6 hours spare, can you please sometime upload your next part of un-edited footage?? LOL
Haters get yourself in check, I'd like to see your videos??
jamieeaston57 2 years ago
montages are GAY, all they are is THE BEST BITS OF DAYS AND DAYS OF PLAYING!!!
scousec101 2 years ago
Days and days of playing?
If some of you idiots took your time and read the montage info, you'd see that I record my footage during 4-5 ROUNDS of Battlefield: Bad Company.
AoWANDOFSWE 2 years ago
WTF JDV you not that fucking big you moron. You can't pull this video like you some fucking important company. YOu are a FUCKING NoOB yep I said it you a fucking noob. ADD me up and see what happen fag.
xMFHxCam.
ghostpilot01 2 years ago
Scouse why don't you try and GOLD bash me the with your friend JDV and see what happen. my PSN is
xMFHXCam
ghostpilot01 2 years ago
No you shit. WE didn't gang up on JDV we just saying what is true. Are you a fucking noob saying wow JDV is so entertaining WTF. Have u seem JDV video he too fucking high on himself. WTF "I'm the best at tank, you just don't go against JDV in a tank" lol. JDV can't kill an enemy for shit. He just try to find a way to fucking GOLD BASH. and if you don't like what I said you just add me if you have a PS3. I'll show u who the fucking noob. Oh yeah why don't you play the way JDV play.
ghostpilot01 2 years ago
LMAO
scousec101 2 years ago
Jah, I cum fom sveeeedon.
scousec101 2 years ago
Calm down e thug.
fulerguy 2 years ago
ps. At least JDV talks and tries to interact and have fun even if he gets a tad carried away. Grow up you swedish turd, there ARE LOADS OF PEOPLE BETTER THAN YOU AT THIS GAME!!!! and your montage is boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring, just a load of kill recordings, fuk, if I recorded all my kills it would look very similar to yours noooob!
scousec101 2 years ago
Andreas Woulda kick JDV ass even if Andreas play with 1 hand hahaa. YOu GOLD basher it pathetic the way you play it just suck so u can admit it. WTF who care if u use to be a Gamespot worker. No one give a damn about it. Wait u used to is that mean you got out because of your cockyness.???
pirunhing 2 years ago
JDV ALL I can say is YOUR GAMEPLAY SUCKKKKKK yep I said it and add me up I promise I'll make u look like a clown wait u already are a clown hahahhaahah.
pirunhing 2 years ago
You are a failure. The day I picked up this game I was better than you in your 'expert" videos. Get over your cocky ass "I could have this video taken down" self. You are not all that. you brag at the fact that you play thousands of video games. wtf man. ease up on the hater-ade and realize you actually suck
skijunkie55 2 years ago
thats pro move move right there - and go out of bounds and blow you and teamate up lmfao.. you thick fucking piece of fanny flapping skin.
You have an IQ of what? 175? hehe.. pmsl.
Go n buy some more socks - if you are smart - you will know what i mean.
Go n get laid u bald cunt. JVD
Musicgamesandvideo 2 years ago
hahahahahaha what a tool.
This guy is so delusional he thinks he can comment on a game when he is horrible at it.
Soo many fields at an "elite" level? hahahahah
Are these levels as "elite" as your gaming skills?
If they are then you are the most "elite" gas station attendant in the world.
merkinsniffs 2 years ago
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iamstork 2 years ago
your saying Andreas doesnt have a life? hahaha the man get swedish babes that are hotter than any girl you'll ever come across. make fun of him cause of his job? well i can easily make fun of you cause your not a lawyer thus inferior to me. he gets money, babes and the time he wants. your the one who doesnt have a life. you post up hundreds of videos on youtube only to get a couple of views.
iamstork 2 years ago
you say your good at tanking? look at unholy,hooofarted,melodrama they are true tankers they get the crate kill and stop the team. the teams you play against are noobs, play against some real players that are on the ps3 like darkblaze, kockulees, celtics and alot more players. not timmy whos 6 years old. or a noobie who just got the game. besides your tank whoring is weak. it took you forever to get a crate. play against wanton or glock you will explode the instance you get in it.
iamstork 2 years ago
if montages show only good footage, why dont you make one? make one that doesnt consist of blowing yourself up with an rpg or using a specialist gun as a sniper. look at real players like my man wanton and glock. see you wont lay the f down. they have montages cause they dont want to make you see them running forever to the crate or the average kill. they want people to see what they can do. like c4 the f out of vehicles or blast someones face through the wall with c4.those are true good players
iamstork 2 years ago
they dont have any balls to actually practice and get good by themselves like most GOOD people do. the only inspiration here is my man andreas, who never glitches or cheats. hes godly with the demo kit, hes inspired me to do some of the shit he does. all you did was make me laugh my f'in ass off. sixth you bash montages. im not gonna sit there and watch 12 minutes of gameplay, only to learn nothing new. thats when montages come in. they are clips of great gameplay that shows the players skill
iamstork 2 years ago
third you say your the best because you have friends that are in the top leaderboards. thats like saying im the best because im friends with obama. that logic fails at every degree. Fourth you say the knife is cheap. the only reason why you say that is you probably suck with it and get knifed alot. its effective and fun to use. why waste precious ammo when you can knife a fool. fifth you say people follow your advice? thats cause kids these days will do anything they see and hear.
iamstork 2 years ago
dude JDV are you delusional? My buddy Andreas is a whole lot better than you can ever be. First the only reason why you get "so many views" is because people laugh at your arrogance. they find it hilarious that a person that sucks so bad would be this cocky. Second you say your the best but you rpg walls on yourself and you take over ten minutes to find the right spot with your boat in order to shoot down the crate only to get sniped.
iamstork 2 years ago
looooooool JohnDVillarrealEsq..
u know what ?
" a cocky always sees himself like he's on a mountain, sees people small, and people see him SMALL" !!
u better go and find some very good and telented doctor to help u !
oh, and make sure he's on top of the rating list =D
such a dick, it's just a game..
every time u r claiming to be a "FORMER" gamespot host, so "NO BIG DEAL" as u say >
LMAO ..
your EGO just made my day "to laugh" at you ..
when u die, i'll make sure to piss on u :D
ipodfan669 2 years ago
Its actually not the guys account, its a fan(LOL) video...
Darthprotos 2 years ago
Me, a fan of JDV? I hate the dude. Hence this mocking video...
AoWANDOFSWE 2 years ago
Ahhh now I get it. I see what you did there.
Darthprotos 2 years ago
Yes, I'm a cheater. You got me. Now, get yourself, and search for help.
AoWANDOFSWE 2 years ago
My moms basement? Let me laugh. I really don't like putting it this way, but: Trust me, internet hero, Google my name and we'll see who's really achieved something here.
You're a joke.
AoWANDOFSWE 2 years ago
If you took your precious little time and read the info, you'd see it's been filmed during like 3-4 game rounds only. So.... no.
AoWANDOFSWE 2 years ago
lmao JDV this video is ripping the piss out of you - you fucking mong!
Musicgamesandvideo 2 years ago
you do realise hes extracting the urine with that video? lol
davyg1978 2 years ago
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Baztian360 2 years ago
How are u even knifing people when you are clearly missing them on some of the kills.
tacohero 2 years ago
LOL. It's called lag, and happens even when you shoot people. Only difference is, that when you shoot people you wont notice it. Very common in this game. Hence why you get shot even though you're behind cover sometimes.
AoWANDOFSWE 2 years ago
by far the best BFBC montage on youtube. 5 stars!
jamieeaston57 2 years ago
very nice im gonna make one of my one on the ps3
timnesia 2 years ago
Epic video.
cpriicorn 2 years ago
great!
FearlessSebba 2 years ago
awesome
rei14 2 years ago
lol noob clan iam better aka dnalor
figoen17 2 years ago
Yeah, very noobish. Only some of the highest ranked players in the game.
AoWANDOFSWE 2 years ago
I love this game, but knifing is so cheap and broken.
FlyingSq 2 years ago 2
Nice...You guys(AoW) should make a single youtube account and put all the randyy videos and montages.
- ZS v2
ZSv2 2 years ago
good video andreas!!
doctorwilhelm 2 years ago
Thanks a lot, Doc.
AoWANDOFSWE 2 years ago
love your montages. Great to watch.
Saintly Phoenix
herrorarra 2 years ago
CoD suuuuccks compared to bfbc too .. it's not even close.
george120050 2 years ago 4
Jesus, most of those knife kills looked so incredibly stupid and fake. It's ridiculous. I wish this game were more like CoD.
RolandVosje 2 years ago
RolandVosje, do you play BC? Yea they look fake, but he's got skill at doing it, knifing is all sorts of messed up in BFBC, but he's making it work. The BFBC2 trailers have shown throat slitting ala MGS4, so you should be happy with that! :)
george120050 2 years ago
I thought he might have seriously meant there was a place in the single player mode to practice rocketing helis.
george120050 2 years ago
At the beginning of his first "Expert tips" video, he's speaking loud of his talent and skills for shooting down a chopper on Easy mode in single player campaign. Even though the chopper is as stll as a dead dog in the air, he misses his first two rockets, and takes him down with the third rocket. Then he says: "This is what I do. I win games".
Very funny.
AoWANDOFSWE 2 years ago
Still as a dead dog*
AoWANDOFSWE 2 years ago
lmao No I don't need to google him! I've ben laughing at those things for quite a while too, are you saying "Thank god for single player mode" is just another JDV reference? lol
george120050 2 years ago
Ugh I suck at rocketing helis, I always run to the AA or various gun turrets. @ 3:54, you wrote "Thank god for single player mode," so where in the 1P campaign can I can practice that?
george120050 2 years ago
haha, you need to google JDVSuperGenius Bad Company Pro Advice videos. They are tremendus help, and it will help you understand this!
FootxFingers 2 years ago
if i could have recorded yesterday i did 1 of the most amazing things i blew up gerrf up in a tank on fnal ignition in the last base. i put a designator on him so he drove into the 3 story building and i managed to get it through the window on the roof squeez it past the stairs and boom i made gerrf look like a rookie. 1 proberly 1 of the best if not thee best designator you will ever see
sorry for the long message
ben aka. xUTxKILLANINJAx
imbenhellyer 2 years ago
damn, nice shot man.
FootxFingers 2 years ago
pwned at 3:45
AlexHill3325 2 years ago
man im glad i was in your team last night Andreas lol. look forward to being on your team more often so we can be the ultimate demo gruesome twosome lol.
lordofthejewsjr 2 years ago
Excellent tribute
mothman838 2 years ago
Wow your a pro dude.
You'd be good at knifey Spoony.
slappywag88 2 years ago
hey i got a question for u all. what is ur favorite type of weapon to use? mine is the M16 or the XM8
snake61388 2 years ago
Knv-1
jamesspade2 2 years ago
Nice vid man. Especially 7:24 ,lol. Hope they wipe the stats for all those arty glitching fags out there.
Eaglesfan220 2 years ago
oh great more cheaters? how does it look or do they just appear out of then air? GLITCHERS SHOULD HAVE THEIR FINGERS CUT OFF AND BURNED
snake61388 2 years ago
wow rarariot. you're a god at demo!!! i love you man
-aow | doctor
SOMEBODY CALL A MEDIC!!
doctorwilhelm 2 years ago
lmao man - thats pro moves right there!
haha great stuff man - i love the piss take hahaha! (djsy2008)
Musicgamesandvideo 2 years ago
3:38 and I'm famous lol
UrbanBloodNinja xx
roybaser 2 years ago
Who needs a gun when you have KNIVES!
SamRuffles 2 years ago
Good stuff, Andreas.
Still got your tags more. ;)
Knight Wolf, out.
jamesspade2 2 years ago