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  • you don't make videos anymore :(

  • RYANMOODY21 dude you should see the amout of madden 12 vids on pastapadres channel there what seems to be like a thousand videos , but no commentary.. of how good or bad it is.. but the game looks almost exactly like madden 09 man no bullshit take a look... i also gave him a piece of what i thought about his sorry ass...

  • Ian was on some faggot shit with that thing concerning Apex.

  • oh zingerrrr nice 1

  • Keep it up RM! This "small" group of pepole are growing at such a rate, that Madden may become extinct in a few years!!

  • I lOVE!!! YALL, i mean really! I said this a long time ago. Its almost crazy. EA really doesn't realize that what they did with the NFL contracts made a lot of people angry. I know people who play madden faithfully that still to this day say 2k put out a better game even with this years version. These are true madden gamers. Its sad.... IM DOWN ALL DAY, SUBSCRIBED AND ALL. The NFL lost money by giving EA the contract. Keep this up!!

  • I think we have to go to the NFL or EA and boycott outside of their buildings. These videos are cool but we need actions, which we all know speak louder than words.

  • @TSGS21 FUCKIN A RIGHT

  • I really enjoyed listening to your talk. What strikes me about the youtube community interested in these madden videos is the thoughtfulness and attention to detail on display. Someone like Ian Cummings is walking a very fine line criticizing what it is that you do - because at a certain point he will just be criticizing the whole concept of game development and quality control. I've subscribed to "thesimstandard." Keep up the goodwork.

  • I liked the one where he pretended to not know who Apex or Ryan were. "Whats he uh, the uh truth chaser or something like that? I dont know.." Sure. I get douchechills everytime I hear the guy talk, hes so insincere.

  • I like video games I understand they're are flaws i made a madden flaw video which is should'nt have because it's crazy. but if these guys spent as much energy on real-world issues than this the world would be better. I don't think the Eygptians care about gaming right now. The best way to combat EA is to just stop buying their product and play more intellectually stimulating games i.e Chess and Go. But I keep forgetting that The United States of America is not a thinking man's Country

  • Another one i thought of, how bout cbs put their hand out to feel for the WR. That couldnt take more than an hour to create. And how bout when you dive, they swat for the ball carriers ankles. So you might trip him. Right now diving is completely useless.

  • U guys should make a vid on the tiny aspects that take less than a day to make. For example, in madden 04 u could go into a scrambling mode as the qb. U couldnt throw the ball at all but you could run around in the backfield and spin, juke, truck etc. Bring that back. Mobile qbs skills are diminshed bc of things like this.

  • yes i would i know your my favorite out all of them if u guys made one chanel it be awsome

  • You guys can be the NWO of YouTube(if watched wrestling in the 90's you'll know what I'm saying).

    I always knew that if alot of the community teamed up then there could be big things happening.

    Let's see if this can be properly put together. It'll take some good advertising but, it's possible.

    I'm gonna do what I can to support it cause I can't let this happen with out being a part.

  • @Shadybest don't turn ya back on the wolfpac

  • @irishmist1794 ha ha

  • I have nothing but respect for the people at Backbreaker! Consider this....Have you paid attention to what EA Sports did this year? How many times have you seen Madden being offered for free to go with a magazine subscription?I just noticed that they really pushed it where I live.Ian is in denial and his stubborness is going to cost him his position before it's over.

  • I absolutely would subscribe to a community type channel for if you made one.

  • HELL YEA!!!!!!!! I'M DOWN

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  • @RyanMoody21 If yall make a combined channel, you'll have me as a sub. Let's take Madden's fools down together!

  • I tweeted Ian on this podcast and got him to respond...

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  • 1 dislike...? Ian, really? like...srsly? how sad..

  • Agree completely

  • I think its a great idea if you can get everyone to work together. I'm subscribed to several of the people you named and have watched a few video from some of the others. I think it would be nice if I could just subscribe to 1 channel that gives me something every day as opposed to 5 or 6 that give me something once or twice a week.

  • I'd definitely support such a channel. I think it would be a good starting point to further the "sim" gaming movement.

  • Exactly what "tension" is there . As BB hasn't had ANY news in MONTHS. There is a website,and forum. Where you would think proper discussion, and dissemination of Backbreaker related content w/should occur and NOTHING NO updates ,news, or DLC. It's SAD that this community HAS BEEN so easily NEGLECTED .

  • I'm waiting for Gideon to say something about Ian's podcast. Very surprised he hasn't said anything after he was pointed out out of many of the people who upload videos.

  • If by support you mean involvement, yes. If by support, you mean pay ( I don't think you do, but in the interest of clarity), no.

    I would be eager for such a channel.

  • I would love to be part of the video creation commitee team I'm a big time gamer I play everything not just football games. Im a well rounded gamer and adjust quickly. If youve seen my channel you can see for yourself. I havent posted any videos recently working on getting a real DVR.

  • Sounds like a good idea.

    I imagine most, if not all, would subscribe. The benefit is for the whole gaming community so I don't see any negatives.

  • That is a great idea. Maybe you can pull Apex out of retirement. You know he wants to come back. He has to have that itch.

  • That video and Mr Cummings INSULTING comments . Should tell EVERYONE including Madden fans what interests he has . He DOESN'T CARE. And YES Ian you do NEED to use a replay button once in a while it's called quality control.

    NM HAS to hear this . They NEED to respond NOW to the Backbreaker Community WE BOUGHT that game TOO . 2K unfortunately punked out when they didn't create a continuous season mode for 2K8.

  • Sounds badass! Do it!

  • Can I join the community. I have a couple videos, but none of ya'll show me any love. I'm the new Apex, my dude.

  • Apex lost his god damn mind.

  • @madchuck yea apex be on some other shit sometime

  • You are talking about making a channel like NextGenTactics... Which is a great channel BTW... I would defiantly subscribe for sure. I might also be interested in contributing to the channel myself if you would need/like any help.

  • I tweeted Ian yesterday and he said he did not think he said anything wrong... what a douche

  • Sounds good to me 1 Channel 1 Voice undisputable evidence and numbers cant be denied... DO IT!

  • Great idea you should deff do it.

  • You make a good point with the "strength in numbers" idea. I'm not sure how many subscribers that would actually be since i'm sure you guys share a lot of the same subscribers...but still. It would be interesting to see what could happen from something like that. I'm sure there are ways to get more viewers, and if that happened then maybe it would put more than just a dent into Madden's sales.

  • Yup

  • Me personally, I think that is a great idea Ryan. I am personally subbed to almost everyone you mentioned. I believe you guys all together could really change things. I hope that is something you guys can work out

  • i would support

  • this always heats up during summer and when hopefully backbreaker 2 of some sort comes out its gonna be the biggest sports game war. i havent played the most recent 2k nfl game but i played 2k5 and it opened my eyes that madden is declining. if a 2k football game comes out then madden will be under serious pressure. as greedy as nfl is they will not allow for competition they will sign with the best game that will make the most profit. 

  • you no im in shiresville

  • Great Vid again.

  • A channel dedicated to accurate breakdowns of football video games would be great. I would subscribe for sure and I think I could get a few more to do so. But it would be best dedicated to that, and not generic channel where you say a lot of other stuff. What we all want is a decent videogame football, like the 2k series has; and that Madden has never really managed (at least not at the current technological standpoint, the old Maddens were good for their time in some cases)

  • This is what we've been waiting for, United We Stand, Divided We Fall. These fools need to understand we just want them to build a game for football fans, not 5 year olds. That's our message. We want them to understand that the name Madden Football used to mean something Great and not the garbage that has been rehased for 4 years with gimmicks and bs that no true football fan would give 2 shits about. Just give us the game, the sport of american football as it should be.

  • yeah i would support it

  • Absolutely would support you. Big fan of you guys, and feel the exact way about your thoughts. Only thing i didnt agree on is Backbreaker. i didnt get too mcuh into it.

  • Strength in numbers moody, strength in numbers....

  • Great work!

  • Would support all the way

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  • Yes totally!!! Do it!!! But not versus he sucks!!!

  • Yes totally!!! Do it!!!

  • ill subcribe man!

  • Im down...and I say we organize it now so when Madden 12 drops...It can take the same road as NBA Elite 11

  • Great video Moody. I'm down!!!! Count me in.

  • its a good idea but i think that if your looking for a partnership from youtube you wont get it going against a big corporation like ea who pay money to youtube for there ads to be shown. youtube wont go for that they wont want to piss of ea.

  • You the man, Apex is free LOST HIS MIND. Moody you good though bro.

  • @madchuck word. apex is a lost cause.

  • Pasta padre response: Not sure what you're talking about. The only thing I can think of is having said that there are people who breakdown the game to a ridiculous extent (going into replays and hunting for problems in slow motion) just for the sake of doing so. Not disrespecting, its anyones prerogative to do so I just can't comprehend that to be a good use of time, and that would have nothing to do with a "community".

  • In the comment section on pasta padre site, someone asked him why did he disrespect the YouTube community. I post his response on the next post..

  • Moody, this may be the best idea you've ever had. I think one power of YT people will finally get our voices heard. The ONLY problem I could see happening is if you all band together, and you guys start bickering at eachother or what not, and it falls apart, it's going to look like you guys are a bunch of idiots lol (No offense). But other than that, I think it's a amazing idea.

  • Hell yeah I would join a group like that.

  • Yes

  • i agree with everything u said expecally with natural motion they asked for the communities help and they put out the biggest patch ive ever seen from a game i never seen so many things that were problems to so many consumers and they looked at everything and fixed them....that alone earned them my money and support... also i would love to see all of you make a channel together i would sub most def...

  • Moody, that is an awesome idea. I would subscribe day one.

  • I would subscribe.. Great Idea.

  • let's get sim sports community to unite.

  • hell Yeah

  • im in. thats a gr8 idea

  • Yea,I already have you sub from over 2 years ago,you and Apex pretty much.

  • I'll subscribe all day everyday bring back the God Father of this community Mr. Apexisfree Truth Chasers

  • Will just say yup

  • THIS IS THE BEST IDEA E V E R!!!!!!! do it PLEASE I WILL SUB

  • Yah I would subscribe Ryan :)

  • U know I've been critical of u in the past but this idea sounds like a dream and I will be willing to support this!!!!!!!!! All the football heads in one spot discussing what needs to be done to bring real football I definately GAME!!!!!!!! ya'll should do it.

  • I think it would be a great idea to create a SOLID youtube channel of football, But it would take everyone ( You,Myself,Apex.Brozales,Smitt­y, AE, Simfootballcritic ) for it to work and be successful. If you can talk apex out of early retirement , I'll ship him an xbox 360.

  • @versuz2 "pulls off your socks" =o

  • id sub

  • Ill subscribe to that. I support all of you guys, why not come together as a group?

  • Ryan, I would subscribe and tune into to the new channel but I have one condition....please let it not be Versuz!!.....please!?!? You know very well how much of a head case this guy is. Plus, he doesn't know how to break down the game of football which could potentially ruin the credibility of those videos. You got to think twice about Versuz....regardless of the pity situations that happened in the past. Don't tell me those videos you made about him didn't happen for no reason.

  • I'd definitely sub...I'm not sure what the impact of it all would amount to, though. Like you said, Ian knows who you guys are. If you guys decide to team up I want to see something come out of it (I want developers to notice this, but that is obviously out of your control).

    That podcast proved to me that no matter what you guys do, he won't listen. He has such a narrow-minded approach. He's going to do what he wants and that's it. And it's pretty pathetic.

  • Ryan I would sign up . Love to get Apex back as well.

  • Without a doubt I'd sub. If you all went in on one channel, it'd be amazing.

  • Hell yeah!!! Do it!!

  • I want to see a channel with videos of backbreaker, 2k games, and more madden bullshit that way we can make FOOTBALL GAMES Good and fun again. 

  • I would subscribe

  • I'd definitely subscribe.

  • i would DEFINITELY sub, that would be a dream team of analyzing football.

  • He'll yea I'll subscribe

    Apex Roenic YouTube legends !!!

    MADDEN SUCK !!!

  • Count me as a sub...all day

  • automatic subscribe

  • I'd sign up for that.

  • groups of people with 5-10K subscribers than it would to just have one big channel. To me, it says that these diverse people who approach things differently think the exact same thing about a game development team that is very lazy and does not want to improve its game. Don't let them mask the power of your validity. They fear people like you. Use that to put the pressure on.

  • I would subcribe, it would be nice to have apex and ronenic back too

  • It's ambitious...and I think it's worth doing.

    Even though you and I don't agree on everything, I'd sub.

    I like seeing different views...but...most the guys you mentioned have bad blood ( for the most part) so, it'd have to really be a serious change for all you guys to come together.

    Not that I 'd expect you guys to live in the same area, but, collaboration would be key.

    Otherwise, what you're suggesting is just a ''mash up'' channel of separate vids...and I don't see much interest in that.

  • Ryan, you know Ian thinks differently. What he's trying to do is project his message that people who dislike their engine are in the minority. YOu know that's the case. We all know that's the case. Having a subscriber count of over 20K isn't going to change that. You're always going to be ridiculed and downplayed because you are costing a company a lot of money.

    You guys all have your own personalities, your own style. I think it says more to have a few smaller(cont)

  • 2k13 bro....nfl 2k13 could also have natural motion involved

  • Do it I'll sub and have a few others to sub as well. Great work.

  • yeah.

  • yea id sub. and i hope 2k would make a football game to show everyone how piss poor of a football game madden is. that would be awesome

  • We live in an age where replay is second nature. They do it in every sport and analyse and diagnose what happened. Madden could be the best selling franchise year in and year out if the devs did their jobs.

  • IF YALL DID THAT ID BE THE FIRST SUB U BETTER BELIEVE DAT

  • YES RYAN LETS GO!!!!!! i have been trying to get apex back for months.

  • Ryan you don't know how fired up I am. How is the community supposed to get EA to step their game up. I havent supported EA sports since madden 08 but 300 folks arent enough.

  • I would. But then again it is getting all the people together.

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