Obama's Russian challenge - 10 Nov 08

[OBAMAisHalfCaste]

Obama the first half-caste biracial mixed-race president not black

[molokoification]

We dont have to stop anything, we just have to learn how to live in friendship and respect all countries. Дружба народов!

[IlyaKovalchuk1]

I grew up in Russia. I was so grateful to get out of a Socialist Country. I am thinking of relocating to New Zealand. Socialism is for lazy coloreds.

[ruzlanz]

Слава России! Russia is a rare free state in the world. we need to stop american imperialism!

[JahadEmYr]

@ruzlanz i ment to give you thumbs up and mistakenly gave you a thumbs down..sry

[demortuum]

U.S-shit and хавно...Russia-forever

[saints4445]

@demortuum in the great patriotic war we fed you may have been wiped out if it wasnt for us and americans made this website.

[SaleADL]

What democracy are you talking about?

[watchMEshyne]

WTF!

they better put that missile shield in place pronto. so at least when they invade russia, theyll have some sort of defense.

the U.S its self does not have a problem with russia in theory. but ex soviet states do!. there scared as hell of russia because russia is a facist state. and so its existance in a world of democracy is pending!

[SFLegacy]

If it was so much about russia. Its about the majority of the world being corrupt, from people to goverments to multi billion corporations. From personal crises in conscience, greed, pride, patriotism.

"because russia is a facist state."

What about US, UK, Germany and all of the countries in OECD, what type of states are they? Those who starved millions to death

Globalization & the "Golden Billion"

From social engineering perspective democracy is an illusion. There is no democracy

[Spaiseone]

we may have yet to surpass the Great Depression, but you're quoting the final numbers, when things were worse, at their peak. there's no telling how far we will sink. we're currently at 6 percent unemployment, "credible" economists say we should reach 10 percent. we have twice as many people than in the 20s, so the amount of unemployed will be near the same.

we're not close to the bottom of the bucket, and who knows how deep it is, "credible" economist question survival at all.

[linduxxxx]

USA hate russians and russans hate Usa !!!

[live777evil666]

I think people forget sometimes. 75% of the population on earth live soley off of rice alone. The United States produces so much food, that the government buys the xtra that the farmers make and burn it to keep prices up on agriculture. Hunger is a powerful tool in war. And food is something Americans have more than enough.

[ig7157]

Fingers crossed for better relations.

[NeMetov]

Even BBC has shown that it was Geogian agresson, not Russian, Check official site. What does the USA still say "Russian agresson". The USA started propaganda on TV. Maybe Russian must put the defence systems against The USA?

[cobwebhead]

NeMetov - Google:

Randy Scheunemann Georgia Orion

[rblwoaclu]

you think hes gonna save the world?stop wishing for kings and wish for the MOST HIGH instead.

[slavixtube]

drugs? :)

[rblwoaclu]

why? you need some? i dont have any, but you can ask the cia. they probably have some.i have a feeling you are gonna need them or you can just ask your doctor.

[opAir01]

Its time USA stop vilifying other countries and refers them as rogue states.

It is also time USA looks in the mirror and reflect on themselves as I do believe "other countries" are seeing USA the trouble rouser.

[thelastemperor909]

i dont know what the fuck yo usaid but ok .

[AMERICANRESTORATION]

There is no need for a weapon system. The two systems talked about in this video will be built to defend from "rogue states" proclaimed by Bush as Iran and Syria. These nations are mad at us because they feel their fellow citizens of God have been treated with humanitarian crimes by Israelis with staunch support by the US. If the systems are secretly built for Russia, it will be a dooming mistake for America to rise tensions with a growing Russia.

[lucirz]

"defend europe from rogues states" haha like the U.S. actually cares

[blackxavior]

Russians only respect strength. Look how cowardly they are waiting till bush leaves to confront The US. If McCain one i doubt they would have tried this stunt.

Hopefully Obama will learn form the past and use his pimp hand on them.

[jinjin16]

pimpin pimpin

[FuManChu]

If Obama does little else aside from turn Russia into a true ally, starting first by cutting the money we are spending on this stupid missile shield, then that alone will make him a great president.

[NWOpartycrasher]

Rouge states? Give me a break they mean states that refuse to give the bankers full power like we foolishly have done in the U.S.

[Ariji86]

I don't think it's gonna be exact missile defense system. That's a lie. The US wants to conquer Russia.

New World Order is their top vision.

[Atradaitoshi]

I don't want to conquer Russia.

[Ariji86]

So what do you want, Atradaitoshi?

[d3vilcat2004]

definetly their plan.

We have our right to defend our country from hostile take overs.

[blackxavior]

Look at Ingushetia and Chechnya to see Russia's vision.

[chefrick03]

How threatening is a non-nuke missile shield when we still have real nuke's trained on Moscow?

Russians are inherently spooked and suspisious.

[thelastemperor909]

we need to be with russia we would be unstopable

[bas058]

The world is a not a risk board. People need to stop tolerating petty turf wars between the economic elites of the globe, which is all our posturing with Russia amounts to.

[biggerflexible]

I don't think there is ANYTHING about Russia that is "elite" lol they must need some attention.

[jinjin16]

maybe not elite but they supply over 60% of Europe's Gas and supply. This is a power shift. Russia, China & India will have more say in the global issues when, WHEN, the US' long decline to third world position becomes a reality.

[warcraft1920]

I dont think that will happen. All the people that are preying that the U.S will become a third world nation from this are idiots. The GD didnt turn us into a 3rd world nation and neither will this.

[jinjin16]

This is bigger than the GD for a start - the GD didn't have 600 trillion derivatives floating around. You're already in a third world state - How many cities are there in the US that needs rescuing? How much poverty does the US have and how many are waiting in line?

Who's praying? I'm not praying. What are you thinking that I am spending my nights praying to my infidel God that the US will fall? Please fool I've got better things to do.

You're USA spend 400B to make sure you're in our nose

[warcraft1920]

The U.S is 10 trillion in debt moron. And no this isent worse then the GD. No credible econimist has even said were in a depression. And no its not worse. In the GD we had a 25% unemployment rate. People were standing line just to get food. We have a 5% unemployment rate and there are no lines for food save the check out line. Its nowhere near as bad. Also in the GD half of our banks went under. Now only about7 did. We still have over 5000.

[Mxyzptlk562]

Wishful thinking will get you nowhere. Russia is a one trick pony: it gets the bulk of its wealth from oil. Prices go down and Russia is having a fit. India is a country in which more 2/3 of its population still lives in poverty.

China is the only plausible rival to the US in the future. However, China's prosperity is built upon the US's. In other words they need to continue to sell us cheap goods. If the USA were a 3rd country that would not be good for China.

[Mxyzptlk562]

The bottom line is the USA is far too dynamic of a country to not get out of its current economic doldrums. This is a country that still is the place that the world looks to for leadership on global issues.

All Russia is doing is trying to strong arm its way back onto the center stage of world affairs by intimidating its neighbors. Nothing new.

[jinjin16]

That is somewhat correct but not as accurate as you might think. The US dont do nothing anymore except for financial services which your Harvard & Princeton elites fucked up so badly. The world wants something that we can use and we are starting to see that Americans are useless, loud & demanding.

There are a lot of hard working countries that the world can rely on. The world at the moment is just looking for ways to get out of the US' lepper with the most fingers hold on the world economy.

[jinjin16]

I think you are the one who is wishful thinking. Use you're brain. There are 6 Billion people that the China produces for - the US has 300 million people. That's a fraction of their market share. You're country no longer consumes as much due to the greedy fuck up they caused.

Do you think that China will continue to lend the US money to fatten themselves up without asking for their money back? China only will keep fattening the Americans if the US people are turkeys for thanks giving.

[Mxyzptlk562]

So you are an insider on Chinese economic policy, eh?

Well China exports $170 billion dollars to the US each year and has a trade surplus of $115 B with the USA. Germany, the UK, Russia and the Netherlands together don't equal that much. I think that qualifies as a pretty important market.

Financial services only makes up about 4.5% of the US economy. It is an important and critical 4.5%, however, it is still not all of the US economy.

[Mxyzptlk562]

The world may have a least 6 billion people, but, unfortunately, not all of them do productive work. At least not economically speak. A great deal of the world barely makes enough to subsist on a daily basis. These people may be very hard working, but sweating in a the fields all day long does necessarily make workers productive on a macroeconomic scale. Contrary to your opinions, that title does belong to American workers. The average US worker produces $63885 of wealth per year. That is tops.

[Mxyzptlk562]

So the bottom line is don't just use your brain (as you suggested I do) but also use the facts (which I strongly suggest you do). Then you will see that the USA ain't going away anytime soon. Even though you hold a grudge and bias against the US, for the foreseeable future your archenemy is not going anywhere or will disappear off into the sunset. Yes, China will continue to grow and American power will be greatly challenged. But the USA is not going to irrelevant anytime soon. Get over it.

[jinjin16]

The US$ is the biggest tax that is affecting not only the America but the world due to rampant printing of $notes. This in turn eats up savings of ordinary people like you and me by diluting the value of goods and services due to the fact that US$ is the worlds currency when it comes to energy, gold etc. This dilution is inflationary tax that devalues everything people have worked hard for, and for what?

[SFLegacy]

exactly

[jinjin16]

Yes that was true but you are forgetting something. We are going through a PARADIGM SHIFT. You know it, I know it.

If the world is feeding a nation that doesn't pay its debt while the producers are not getting anything back, do you think they'll keep giving you free shit? That is what the world is thinking right now.

There is one pillar left in America, its military might. How is that going by the way? can you tell everyone what to do at the point of a gun?

[Mxyzptlk562]

Paradigm shift is mumbojumbo for the continue rise of China and perhaps India. Will the USA be the uncontested Super Power in the future? No way. Not only due to the rise of China but also because the US is realizing that it will have to cooperate a lot more in the future with its allies and work with its enemies. The USA will eventually have the 2nd largest economy in the world due to the sheer size of China - that is a fact.

[Mxyzptlk562]

As far as the US military goes, it will still be strong and I expect the strongest in the world. Americans will demand that. But I seriously doubt that it will be used in the way it is being used now.

I seriously do question your understanding of national economies if you seriously believe that the USA is somehow freeloading and is unproductive. Once again, use facts and not your emotions about the US on the issues. Unfortunately many Americans are like you when dealing with China.

[jinjin16]

I dont fully hold the idea that all Americans are unproductive and lazy in fact I have an American friend who described that most citizens rarely get holidays or breaks etc and are workaholic. I agree. Whom I am describing are the financial corp. and federal lackeys in control of those hardworking Americans.

Let me explain partly the reason why I feel this way and why I know this is fact.

[jinjin16]

Dont know why I'm arguing with you. I agree with most of what you say infact that is my point - that is what I mean by paradigm shift - the fact that the US has to cooperate with other nation instead of sabotaging them. However while the US compromises itself to become the second largest economy there are no guarantees that it can hold its position or further compromise its position.

By the way I dont hate all American people just the Bush policy.

[jinjin16]

Thet world cannot live without the USA? Good for you that you're still alive and kicking for your dying country, but the question is are you ready to live without credit cards, big macs, pick up trucks, your starbucks, your democratic market, because the figures you gave are the same figures those corp. lackeys have given the public to say there is no recession when you where in a recession since last year. Get with it. Obama's logo 'Change' is true - change to Socialism - are you ready?

[bas058]

Yeah, well, I spent a couple years of my early youth training to defend Fulda Gap, and hence the rest of "old" Europe. We aren't currently at mission strength there, I can promise you. And ANYBODY who controls 60% of the energy to Western Europe is by definition elite, if you chose to live in reality. There are a bunch of insignificant desert hellholes, ruled by bloody tribes of gangsters, who manage to keep the US permanantly by the balls through controlling enough oil.

[biggerflexible]

I'm sorry but Russia can't keep a submarine in the water without sinking, far from elite.

[WolYou]

biggerflexible: The truth is, that americans have also sunk their submarines. The difference is, that the USA is not reporting it openly. It wouldn't be good for you to hear this sort of thing, isn't it? But anyway, its not about who is "elite". Even a chimp can kill you. If you feel safe just because you think you are the "elite" you are living in a delusion. No elite is needed to push you into big troubles.

[jinjin16]

So what do you call it when you mis-allocated a nuclear weapon? Incompetent?

[biggerflexible]

Why are you so angry? Right not now we are at peace;)

[jinjin16]

sooo sorry. not angry just passionate.

[biggerflexible]

no apology needed your passion is respected here.:)

[buckfush12]

Neo liberals are not going to save us...

[upabittoolate]

there's no such thing as a neo-liberal because their policies are always emergent not static. but you're wrong, we're all going to save each other

[pleytes]

Neo liberals!??? Thats funny. There are so many people that are afraid of the incoming administration. The time for fear is over and we now have to be a united America in order to overcome the many challenges ahead.

[bas058]

I agree. But if you are laughing off the term "neoliberal" because you think it's a new turn on neoconcervative, you need a recent history lesson and a reality check. People have a right to be suspicious of Obama--he is bringing back the same "democrats" who gave us welfare reform, NAFTA, wars in the Balkans and a half million dead Iraqi children. I am hopeful that Obama will decide to be a truly historic leader. The momentum to push him that way has been unleashed.

[FlatulenceFox]

And I guess the same old crap we have been doing for the past 8 years will save us if only we stay the course?

[DamNationDiplomat]

'Neo-libs' is a meaningless term coined by third party supporters to coax people away from voting for the democratic party (I say this as a supporter of the mostly unknown democratic socialist party, by the way); neo cons, on the other hand, are an actual political movement with think-tanks, a particular philosophy, and a history behind them. 'Neo-libs', as you call them, are just centerist democrats. I may not agree with them, but they're not a real force.

[jklasdfjdfksl]

neo-liberalism applies to both democrats and republicans. it is extremist free-market economics that wants to cut all governmental social spending, in order to put power in the hands of wealth owners. it is based on the capitalist notion that markets have to expand infinitely; so you see things like attempts to privatize water supplies. globally it is responsible for increasing third world poverty, domestically it is responsible for your lowering living standards and business run society.

[bas058]

No. That's not what it is. Neoliberalism was coined without much regard for American electoral politics--it is an economic and political philosophy that expouses radical free trade as the great liberalizing agent for bringing about worldwide harmony. It is the political philosophy of the New York Times--i.e. the idiot Friedman, "Golden Arches." It is also the policy pushed by Clinton and what Obama must be pushed away from. It is actually an older movement than the Neocons. Google it.