Stephen Harper's Contempt for Canadian Democracy

[Narania234]

Harper is a motral enemy of Liberal Democracy, he is the embodiment of authoritarian regime. Harper is really against and LGBT people and greens , he really would like to censure the Internet. Harper ''won'' due to election rigging(electoral fraud) Harper is a führer of ultra right-wing National Citizens Coalition-Nazi Party. Harper is pretty much the same tyrant as Gaddafi, Mubarak and Ben Ali and he has clear fascist overtones. Only indoctrinated minions and Neo-Nazis ,,voted'' for Harper.

[ChiefStogie]

harper wants to put drug users mostly those who use cannabis into jails. seems a lot like hitler with the jews. it really is sickening when you learn about harper, he bullies the canadian people untill he gets what he wants. I swear to god if he keeps up with bills s-10 the country will split. Canada right now is definitly not a Democracy

[coolios90]

I don't like Ignatieff, But I DO NOT WANT a conservative majority.

Remember, The Conservatives supported going into IRAQ...an illegal war.

Good thing the liberals were in power at the time.

Why all the fuss about a coalition ? More Canadians voted for the NDP, liberals, BLOC than the conservatives So why can't the opposition parties run the government

UK has a coalition government, Australia has a coalition Government.WHY CANT CANADA ? Whats the big deal?

CONSERVATIVES STOP THE FEAR TACTICS

[ujean56]

Oh no, not you again... Okay Mikie. If it will keep your fragile little ego from shattering - you are right and I am wrong. Now, turn off Global news, put down the Toronto Sun and the National Post, go back to school, take Poli Sci 101 (a little Canadian history wouldn't hurt either), and make an informed opinion. And have a nice day.

[mikefastener]

@ujean56 Take care ujean....you may want to celebrate Mr. Harper's 5th anniversary with a cake! (Many of us are!)

We are all so proud of Mr. Harper fighting the jackals of Martin, Dion, Iffy, Layton, and Doucette for the good of Canada!

Today, we celebrate his success!

Agreed?

[ujean56]

Dear mikefastener, I have never met a dictator either but I have a hunch that at least one voter in Germany said the same thing about Adolph Hitler. The point is that Canadian citizens have become complacent about their democracy and the choices have become so narrow that Mr. Harper can push the envelop and break the rules any way he likes and we have fewer and fewer options to stop him. I doubt I will ever meet Stephen Harper. Will you be meeting him at the up-coming G-20 summit? Not likely.

[mikefastener]

@ujean56 Sorry jean56--I did not see your response so many months ago.

You know, there is an old saying that once you use a reference to Hilter or Nazi regarding your opponent, you have lost the argument.

I believe, you indeed, have, therefore, lost the argument.

Take care.

[MrScreenhead]

@mikefastener Dear lord Mike, are you suggesting that any argument likening a current day leader to Hitler is inherently bogus and irrelevant? Worthy only of immediate dismissal?

Have you noticed ever before that history has a tendency to repeat itself? I would submit to you that your stance is one of supreme ignorance, which brings a huge danger upon you and your fellow countrymen, given the fact that tyrants have risen to power throughout all recorded human history.

[mikefastener]

@MrScreenhead @MrScreenhead I completely agree! The disgusting abuse of power by previous lie-beral governments certainly fits into your description.

Thanks for the confirmation.

[MrScreenhead]

@mikefastener I'd also like you to take these facts in to consideration:

Harper plans to sign the Security Perimeter Plan, maybe this month. It would Americanize our security at airports and allow US military open access to this country. Are we the US? Do we want to be?

Harper's government has passed Bill C-36, which now allows police to enter our homes with no probable cause. So much for the law of trespass.

[mikefastener]

@MrScreenhead The Americanization of Canada is certainly an issue. As you know, Iffy is an American. Iffy's lie-beral aids have begged him to renounce his American citizenship as a sign that he is not, "just visiting". Unfortunately, Iffy refuses saying that he will likely need it in the near future.

What can we do about this?

[MrScreenhead]

@mikefastener And yet a few more facts to consider..

Harper has given way to prison privatization. We now have a private jailing industry in Canada. What's more? Jails are being expanded, and more being built. The conservative government is also making excuses to fill them, with Bills like S-10, that propose to jail us for a MANDATORY 18 MONTHS for, god forbid, baking freaking pot brownies.

These are all things to consider about the Harper conservatives. Please do so, for the good of us all.

[mikefastener]

@MrScreenhead Thank goodness there is now, "truth in sentencing" and that violent criminals are no longer going to hurt my children!

Thank you, Mr. Harper. After years of the lie-berals favouring the criminals, rather than the victims, this is a welcome change!

Canadians are so pleased!

[ujean56]

Stephen Harper is an agents of change. The change is the general abolition of democracy. The problem for the Canadian people (whoever they are now...) is that this is generally the same agenda of the Liberal party. If this is not the kind Canada you and the majority of Canadians want, it doesn't matter and Stephen Harper, and the Canadian political class, don't give a tinker's damn what you want.

[justanoldman1]

@ujean56 the liberal party does not belive in democracy, even their leader was not elected by partyy members but rather appointed by the back room boys. The liberals always parachute people into ridings not allowing the grass roots to even have any say in who will prepresent them.

You are one big idiot.

[ujean56]

@justanoldman1 Dear justaoldguy, In response to your comment about the liberal party - blah blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah blahblah blah. In response to your comment about me - I am actually average size which makes you a little idiot. Just the kind of idiot the conservatives like. Say hi to Stephen next time you see him.

[dpedskiz]

@justanoldman1 you sir are a fool. i dont know whether youre senile or not but the fact that harper lies and then insults the other party is just wrong. while the liberals have not said one lie about him and they still have enough to make attack ads that strip away any shred of crebility that may be left after his little prorogue and contempt incidents. and you sir are the idiot because you cant even defend this asshole without sounding like another lying right winger.

[justanoldman1]

@dpedskiz Well asshole you are right about one thing, I am a conservative and hate all so called progressives and other mental ill left nutbars like you.

[dpedskiz]

@justanoldman1 supporting a society that functions together isnt a form of mental illness. its called a fucking conscience when i decide that i should give some of my money to the poor and then decide to run an honourable campaign where i only talk about things you have done rather than use hearsay and personal attacks. and conservatives think capitalism is the answer when it is the problem cause you fuckers are greedy little cumswappers who couldnt do the right thing if your lives depend on it

[justanoldman1]

@ujean56 The liberals didn't even get a chance to vote for their leader, the back room boys appointed Iggy and that is not democracy. They also love to drop in whoever they like into ridings and the poor members don't even have a say in it, that is not democracy.

The liberals still owe us over 40 million dollars from the sponsership mess and you have the nerve to talk about the conservatives. They never took our money from us, they are just fighting to save the country from assholes like you.

[ujean56]

@justanoldman1 You have me confused with a Liberal party member! I have never voted Liberal. We all know the lies and deceptions of past Liberal governments - the Tories under Harper are as bad or worse! Anyway, this is now - not 1990! If you look carefully at either Conservative or Liberal policies over the past 30 years, you will find no difference. They compete with each other over pleasing the wealthy, privileged globalists. Grow up old man, and please STOP CALLING ME NAMES!

[justanoldman1]

@ujean56 Well stop making stupid comments and I will stop calling you names.

If you didn't vote for either the liberals or the conservatives than that makes you either an NDPer or a green nutbar.

I am a conservative and I don't have a party to vote for as we do not have a conservative party in Canada. The least of all evils is Prime Minister Harper. At least he has rebuilt our military and taken the shame away from our brave soldiers that used to have to hitchhike with other contries.

[ujean56]

@justanoldman1 If you think that anyone who doesn't agree with you is stupid and deserves to be called names, you are part of the problem - not part of the solution. You are giving democracy and conservatives a bad name! If you think Harper has done anything for the military other than provide the rich kids with new toys, you need to take another look. There are Canadian soldiers back from Afghanistan who have nothing and live in the streets. But I guess these guys are cowards - right old man?

[ujean56]

@justanoldman1 I guess the ones that are killed are the only heroes - right? Killed in a war started by America.

[justanoldman1]

@ujean56 What difference does it make who started it, our soldiers were sent in to fight by the liberals and they didn't even have uniforms for the desert or body protecting covers. The jeeps they where given to drive had no steel plating. That is the kind of thing the liberals did.

[ujean56]

@justanoldman1 Liberals be damned! Until now, unlike you, I have not called you any names. Now I will say that you are a war monger. You, like too many people these days, think its just fine to kill people to get what you want, make a point, or please our neighbors to the South. My parents lived and fought in WWII and they will tell you, without a second thought, that war is wrong. No two ways about it. But when it's necessary to defend yourself against aggression, it should not be done lightly.

[ujean56]

By the end of this decade, Canada that is any and all government owned services - will be under the full control of multi-national interests (which includes internationlized Canadian businesses). Canadians will be spending either US currency, or a new currency conceived of behind closed doors by a select group of moneyed elites. We will be paying for health care just like Americans. We will see tremendous increases in post secondary tuition and public education will deteriorate dramatically.

[ujean56]

Harper is accomplishing his agenda in a manner familiar to any Nazi-era German hide your agenda from the public, manipulate constitutional rules, ignore or deny all domestic issues, entertain wealthy internationalists, blame the opposition and the public at every opportunity, and militarize the country.

[mikefastener]

@ujean56 Wow!!!! I have never met a dictator who could be voted out at any time!!!

Just wondering!!!

[BoredomCorner]

@mikefastener What makes you think you'll get the chance? We're already talking about a guy who sicked riot cops on peaceful protesters, and tried to bankrupt the opposition.

[mikefastener]

@BoredomCorner Oh "Bore"...you are going to be so embarrassed by this response, I doubt you will even reply.....those riot cops were provincially directed (Dalton McLIer) not federal (Mr. Harper).

(A wet cloth with soap is best at removing egg from someone's face.)

Hope your next debating opponent is weaker--for your sake!!!

[ujean56]

Stephen Harper is not a Prime Minister. He is a mechanic of the political economy. His agenda is abundantly clear. He is continuing the preparation of Canada for sale to multinational interest - total privatization of the country. This process has been underway now for nearly two decades and was initiated in earnest by Paul Martin - a liberal. He plans to break Canada into his (and his multinational backers') vision of a saleable business.

[Thunderthor1988]

MP's, and political parties and even Prime Ministers are not elected to govern the country. MPs are elected to sit as representatives in the House of Common. And through principally politcal parties, these MP FORM GOVERNMENTS that must command the confidence of the crown/queen/GG. Now if the current PM doesnot command the confidence, the GG can either call an election or ask other MPs, who are organized into political partis, to form a new government.

Perfectly legal, and democratic..

[goldeneaglewarrior]

Yes indeed, it's about time someone said something about this political con artist!!! He has made a mockery of our charter of rights and democracy !,..hmmm,kinda reminds me of Bush and Co.'s underhanded politics!!!!

[BoojumFed]

You may not like 'leftists', but that doesn't explain how is it that a left-based coalition attempting to form government any less democratic than the letter that Harper himself sent to Gov. Gen. Clarkson asking for the chance to form a government during Martins very close confidance vote a few years back? The Libs had a strong minority which Harper wanted to replace, and now, when it's HIS strong minority on jeopardy, the exact same play is 'undemocratic'? That's just pure hypocrisy.

[Mathesonguy]

Dion and Layton also said no deficit on the campain trail. What are they saying now? Who is closer to keeping their word?

I hope the left enjoys the crushing they get next election. Their actions over the last month show that they richly deserve it.

The new Liberal leader is decent, I could even imagine him as a good Prime Minister. Its too bad he doesnt have a better party behind him.

The Libs have strenthened my distrust of them, and Iggy wears this coalition next election too.

[bookoz]

do you think the coalition is something that would last even if it went through?

the parties dont agree with eachother on so many things!

it would settle down and when all was said and done, dion would be prime minister with a QUARTER of the vote and all the parties still intact

somehow this is democratic!

the fact that people can honestly defend this coalition is mind boggling to me.

theyll try to tell me with a straight face that those who voted ndp have just as much faith in the bloc

[Gillhoolee]

Weater it would survive is speculation,3-6-9 months, That is not for the Conservatives to decide.

An unelected PM is a crisis because we are being told it is.

Faith in the BLOC? They have faith in Canada to be treated as equals,not to sit and vote to have it accepted when it suits Harper( 14 times last sitting)

How can Harper accept an MP elected as a Liberal into his fold 2 wks after an election (David Emerson),yet move to deny other Members the right to free association in the House. BULLSHIT!

[bookoz]

bottom line is it WONT last!

itll just end up with dion as primeminister.

how does someone voting bloc and someone voting ndp give dion the right to govern??

they have different ideologies

the average quebecer didnt vote bloc becasue he didnt like harper

he voted bloc because he wanted duceppe as PM.

"an unelected PM is a crisis because we are told it is"

what a terrible argument

told by who exactly? newspapers?

since were TOLD its a crisis means its NOT a crisis?

[Gillhoolee]

since were TOLD its a crisis means its NOT a crisis? I AGREE, There is absolutly no reason to re-fight the last election over again as the last result allows for an alternative if the first selection can't cut it.

NEXT!

[bookoz]

okay buddy

its been 2 months since the last election.

nothing big has happened therefore we need a new government?

your plane crashing scenario works if harper has failed miserably

the other leaders simply dont like him. thats what its all about!

they dont like that hes cutting certain funds that he finds unecessary

its personal!

its been 2 months since the election!

why do you think the GG agreed to suspend parliament?? because its absurd to think hes failed after only 2 months!

[Gillhoolee]

OK buddy,Lets not forget who asked for an election(5weeks& $300 million wasted)or that he just walked of the job

- He was not defeated in the House

- He had to bypass his own law

- He acted as a Majority Gov't

I know why the GG allowed him to lock Parliament, simply, it was the least intrusive means she had available after Mr. Arsehole put her in a no win situation & he threatened to resign and not face the House,whaa,whaa again!

Remember "no recession,no deficit"?

SOME LEADER,waiting on Obama.

[bookoz]

what does obama have to do with this??

and what is all this nonsense about "ill walk off the job if i dont get my way"

where are you getting this crap??

and how is this defending your plane crashing argument???

anyways, we'll just wait and see how much better we'll be when our tax dollars stop supporting losers and bums.

unless of course, youre a loser or a bum

[Gillhoolee]

-Oh,We can't help the auto sector till the USA does? ever here of a 'subject to' clause? Ass draggers!

He walked of the job after staging 'dysfunction' in the house. They even published a book on how to disrupt meetings in committee, more ass dragging!

He refused to face theHouse for a vote of confidence,so if the GG didn't give him his way he was ready to throw a tantrum and resign. And as for our tax dollars supporting 'losers and bums'- what is that Harper's legal team on the Cadman Affair?

[bookoz]

hahah,

sooo the libs and ndps are going to help the auto sector

they dont need help from the U.S.

are you serious?

and yeah, theyre all just passively sitting around dragging their asses

they dont care about helping canada whatsoever..

as for cadman, its all accusations with the main argument relating to a woman trying to sell a fuckin book!

what harper said about it is the most plausible scenario if you just look at it objectively

thats a bit difficult for you to do, i understand

[Gillhoolee]

OK buddy, The tape was doctored- even though the experts say it wasn't- and as for the woman selling the books she sits behind Harper.lol. Their both right haha.

Every other G8 country has Governments working their ass of in either committee or in session grappling with the economic meltdown.

Where is our 'cut and run' bunch of do nothing misfits?

[bookoz]

so he offered a bribe on tape??

believe it or not, harper is a smart man

it was spun!!

even if he DID offer him money, hes still the lesser of two evils

that kinda stuff goes on in politics all the time

in this case, i dont think it did

[Gillhoolee]

Mr. Martin did the right think and called an Inquiry into ADSCAM, Harper is different.He used the Courts to gag the opposition during an election campaign. One only he knew he would call having shirked his own law & dropping a ton of money prior to it to smear Mr. Dion. 'Happens all the time' you say? Tories say one thing and do another.One recommendation from adscam was to publicly fund a portion of political party expenses so as to make them less vulnerable to bribes,kickbacks & lobbists.

[bookoz]

MARTIN called the inquiry into adscam??????? hahahahhahahah yeah hes just a saint! get serious! harper is a smart politician! dont give me bullshit about smearing dion. ALL parties smear eachother in elections and all of them use money to do it. theyre all to blame this is where your so wrong! you put up "Mr" Martin and "Mr" Dion on this pedestal of perfectness the liberals are just completely honest! gimme a break! do you ACTUALLY believe that??

[Gillhoolee]

I don't have to give you a break, instead you can have the Auditor Generals report.

The money spent on smearing Dion was done before the election call& exactly because once called spending restrictions are automatically imposed. But you being a supporter of them probably makes you more up on that than I. Hell you could probably tell me how to put money IN,take it OUT and get 60% back in a tax refund... or some scheme like that.lol

[bookoz]

harper probably does a lot of shit that if found out publicly people would gasp.

but hes no different than anyone else

hes just a better politician

and his policies are more appealing to a lot of people who are sick of voting for either the left or the far left every single election in canadas history!

why dont you inquire as to why chretien and martin are MILLIONAIRES and harper is upper middle class?

FUCK the hypocritical leftists!

keep telling yourself that theyre perfect

[bookoz]

theres a room of 100 people

theres 5 people on stage in front of the room and everyone is gonna vote for who they want to be in charge

45 people vote for 1 guy

16 for another

15 another

14 another

10 another

those bottom 4 decide they dont like the guy with 45 votes so they announce to everyone that the guy who got 16 votes is the new leader.

somehow, you actually accept this as logical and democratic?

just watch, conservatives WILL gain a huge majority once everyone opens their eyes

[Gillhoolee]

....there is this plane,(Air Canada ft101) and on it are 308 aviators all have knowledge in the industry. Of the two two pilots who can fly th 1st has always asked for a show of hands & had 155 or more before making course corrections.

 Now faced with an impending disaster by not reacting fast enough the 2nd pilet steps up and asks who wants a course correction & 165 hands go up. The first pilot yells f**k you guys, you never mattered anyway and locks the cabin!

Moral Air Canada Sucks!

[BoojumFed]

"theres a room of 100 people"

That IS Canadian democracy. The voters put those people in the room, and the people organize themselves into a government. Because no-one has a majority, it's perfectly legal for parties to attempt to cooperate, and a damned sight more democratic than a party that has less than 50% of the seats (and less than 38% of the popular vote) trying to dictate to the (currently split) majority.

The last election ISN'T OVER until a stable government has been formed.

[bookoz]

ok man

[Gillhoolee]

here!,here!

[Ian7570]

I'm a Conservative. Although I don't agree with a coalition government with the separatists, I can no longer support Harper as a PM. His bully tactics to try to end funding for the Liberals and bankrupt them into oblivion have come to bite him in the ass. BTW...it's a bit hypocritical for him to criticize forming a coalition with the Bloc when he was willing to do so himself in 2004. It's time to dump Harper.

[keith2882]

You sure sound like a conservative.

[Ian7570]

I'm a member....not small c though. I've had enough of Harper. You have to admit trying to cut funding when the Liberals are bleeding was a childish maneuver. Get Jim Prentice in there or someone who can actually work with other parties instead of being divisive. If the Conservatives lose power it's because Harper brought it on.

[keith2882]

I don't admit. Ask the taxpayers in an election if they want to pay the three amigo's to hire airline jets to fly around, have expensive retreats with their party and, of course, unaccountable matching expense accounts, contracting attack ad campaigns that distract from the issues and polarize Canadians instead of unity. Thanks PM Harper for bringing the issue to the taxpayers and trying to eliminate it - that's putting Canadians ahead of your political parties bank account.

[keith2882]

This is an amazing video of falsehoods. I like the idea Stephen Harper produced which seems central to the issue - stop the transfer of my tax dollars to pay poltical parties such as the three stooges I have been watching for the past two weeks. Instead of creating jazzed up videos you cowards, bring the vote to the people and expose you un-Canadian traiterous faces. I didn't vote for harper in the last election, but after what I have seen it's Conservative in the next election.

[iamaloserandisuck]

The only party that doesn't need public funding are the Conservatives. They're well financed by corporate lobbyists.

[keith2882]

I understand that former PM Cretien put in place money for poltical parties from tax payers which I think is $1.95 per voting person each year - this is millions of dollars. I disagree with this legislated requirement for money from taxpayers to pay political parties. In fact, until Harper brought the issue to the forefront I didn't know about this. The word :public funding" sounds like you go outside and shake a tree and down it comes - it's paid for by hard earned pay checks!

[CTM1978]

Without the public financing this country would be under one party rule by the elite/aristocratic class that Harper represents. He and his kind hate the working class and would see us all in the poor house. It was Conservatives that gave us NAFTA, sending our manufacturing base to slave labor countries like Mexico, China and India. Do you like the idea of working for 5 cents an hour, 15 hours a day six days a week? Keep voting conservative and you'll find out what that's like soon enough.

[keith2882]

I don't agree because prior to former PM Cretien putting this political contribution at taxpayers expense in place, we did not have one party rule, I didn't work for 5 cents an hour, 15 hours a day, et ecetera. If you want to contribute financially to whoever then do so - but at your personal expense - not mine.

[BoojumFed]

"If you want to contribute financially to whoever then do so - but at your personal expense - not mine."

Since the money is handed out on a vote-for-cash basis, the only contribution you are being asked to make is going directly to the party you voted for. And it's less than $2. And it helps keep your party funded without having to crawl to rich buisness/ individual interests with hat in hand, begging to sell out. I don't mean to be facetious, only to clarify; Where exactly is your issue?

[keith2882]

Yours is an interesting point definetly worth reflection. My issue is tax payer funds being transferred to political parties with no accountability after that transfer. Later seeing smear campaigns being broadcast paid by tax payers earnings - to what National purpose?

[Dimcle]

The per vote funding cost to the Canadian taxpayer was 26 million. That is .01% of the total spending in the 250 billion budget.  Note that figure...POINT ZERO ONE PERCENT. When the rules were changed to prohibit mega-funding by big business, big unions, etc., legal advice was given to the government that it would be constitutionally wrong to abolish those donations unless a public subsidy was instituted. Seems a small price to pay to prevent big money from controlling who wins an election.

[Jagabot]

Mr. Harper was elected, period. This 'non-confidence' is manufacturedby the coalition, NOT by the Canadian people. Clearly, the Canadian people (who just re-elected him) doesn't have a lack of confidence in him.

[BoojumFed]

Harper was elected in his riding (Calgary West), the only place in the country where his name appeared on the ballot. So were Dion, Layton, Dueceppe, and all the other MPs in the other parties. Once in Parlaiment, it is THEIR responsibility to form a working government out of the MPs there, which is exactly what they would be doing if Harper hadn't wrangled an extra-long Christmas vacation for himself to avoid being defeated.

[keith2882]

Though Harper did take an extra-long vacation, when parliament resumed they did exactly what you said - all MPs formed a working government. Perhaps Harper and future minority government PMs will have learned a lesson and won't be so arrogant in the future.

[AxeGrrrl]

wow, a year later and Harper most certainly HASN'T 'learned a lesson' and is MORE arrogant than ever!

[Dimcle]

Look at it this way... over 60% of the people who voted did NOT vote for Harper. Mr. Harper is Prime Minister because 37.6% of the population voted for him. I prefer to look at it that 63% of the Canadian people DON'T HAVE CONFIDENCE in him.

[keith2882]

What percentage of Canadians don't have confidence in the leader that you choose?

[influenza99]

And the best of getting Canada back on track is?

Replace him with a liberal leader who's master plan is a carbon tax?

Replace him with a liberal leader who's so weak his own party is going to oust him in 2 months?

Replace him with a liberal leader who cannot even get his recorded national response to the Harper speech delivered to the CBC on time?

Please tell us this is not your plan to get "Canada back on track"!!

[BoojumFed]

Just replace him with a leader who *leads* instead of trying to pass off a "Financial Update" (the aptest acronym I've seen in a long time) that fullfills NONE of his campaign promises, promotes a bill that restricts women's rights to sue for equality and civil servents rights to strike, while COMPLETELY ignoring the financial crisis that they rode to get there, all on the assupmtion that he could get away with anything because no-one would want another election. That'd be "back on track".

[truth1234567890]

Can there be any doubt that Harper told the GG that if he did not get his wishes he would ask the Queen to replace the GG ASAP."Any legal means necessary"