Uniquely Programmed Individual www.rameshbalsekar.com

[NeptuneatDawn]

4 peoples' programming caused distaste to arise upon watching this video.

[swingtrade2]

i witness programming but no one doing it!

[swingtrade2]

i witness programming but no one doing it!

[007remar]

Good

[cheshirealleycat]

Amen



[witn3ss]

ramesh is gangsta

[what034]

i'll pay with pringles

[what034]

wat you like to take tuitions?

[what034]

are you Sri Sri ramesh?

[TheseEyesGod]

...not a person AND the person, AT ONE & THE SAME TIME. That's the trick. To rise above the duality that locks us into just the person perspective. When we do that, we see both - simultaneously.

It doesn't make sense 2 the mind because it is not supposed to. The mind doesn't go on this trip. This is one for the heart. :)

☼ ♥ ☼

[TheseEyesGod]

This is very deep - & not long enuf 4 him 2 speak the full completeness of it. What is said, here is good.

What is missing is that, at 1 & the same time, the 'person' has the sense of walking that destiny. He doesn't just give up & say what the heck. He must still lead the life, make the choices, regardless. The level where it's predetermined is not accessible to us.

It's not supposed to b - that's part of the game, lol. It's supposed to b like this. & it's ok. We are BOTH not a

contd

[nondualwalks]

Interesting...

[swingtrade2]

if what exists cannot be conceptualized, and conceptualization has no author, what are you?

[Metaemipricus]

this man is like a broken record who took up to being a guru post retirement.

[prajna8]

U mean a blind one at that who also led other blind imbeciles right down the ditch along with him.

[daretodream25]

Conciousness is the container in which everything is contained, that means our thoughts are not really ours but of the whole universe and we mistakenly believe we are the doer and get entagled in illusion. The matter of the fact is that nothing can touch spirit not even space and time for conciousness is ground being of all that exists. Refer to Jesus "Not my will but thy will be done." It is ONE will.

[prajna8]

To Daretodream: Yes. But then there is no separate you or I either. That idea of us being a separate person is itself an illusion. There is no person living in the body. Only bodies appear to exist in Consciousness. Thoughts arise simultaneously with the mental feeling it belongs to us. Because there is no "ME" at all in the first place, it is said that the thoughts do not rise to any particular person or persons. Because there is no person there is obviously no DOER also.

[thegov08]

i get angry when i see so many white people at these events. especially when they got their fans and their soft cushions.

[joshrain1]

doesnt make sense, we can reprogram our dna and nothing is predetermined for a person who lives in the moment. that person responds and doesn't react.

[gunneswar]

Whatever process ultimately each being is unique. Also Dvaita (Duality) is the truth, not Advaita. Some individuals seem not to have understood Advaita/Dvaita concepts. You are separate from GOD. You are a mortal being (consciousness) and GOD is immortal (Supreme Consciousness). You can connect with (worship) GOD by choosing any form or any path that you believe in.

[gundabalf]

@gunneswar how dare you say that man, i hate you!

[fizywig]

its simply not true that each body-mind is entirely unique. for example, most of psychology looks at general processes of the mind such as conformity to group norms, memory, percetion, sleep etc

in addition, we know that through operant conditioning techniques behaviour can change and be modelled. I.E. the issues pertaining to "unique programming" are not individualistic but must have a societal and nomothetic aspect, which much Advaita philosophy seems to ignore.

[MrSlimfinger]

I think youre missing what's being pointed to here, reading too much into the way the words are put. Of course there exists similarities between peoples behaviour and mannerisms, but you simply can't find two identical human beings on this earth. So whatever the human and individual expression looks like, underneath our apparent differences & similarities there is a "place of knowing" which is unbound and all-inclusive. This is the one and only simple truth being discussed in Advaita.

[gunneswar]

No!

[gunneswar]

Really? You are repeating somebody else's thoughts!

[prajna8]

Ha, ha!. So are U.

[gunneswar]

Your (or my) consciousness cease to exist when death occurs or IT "ceasing to exist" is what we call "death". Mind is an (abstract) realm in brain in which consciousness resides and around which thoughts evolve.

[prajna8]

UR putting the cart before the horse. UR mezmerised by avidya maya. UR taking your reflection in the mirror to be U.

[gunneswar]

Adding to that consciouness is bound to mind. No mind, no consciousness. Mind = consciousness and thoughts that emanate around IT(or I or sense of being).

[gunneswar]

If you are asking me that question, I am sure that we can influence the result, our effect is always partial not full. If you think you have no role to play, then unfortunately some other body+mind organism will influence your results drastically, and the result may be very unpleasant to you. The work you put up always matters to achieve what you want but the actual result is never guaranteed. Pl. don't respond to this comment.

[gunneswar]

I agree the concept of body+mind organism but this instrument can influence destiny. We act to influence the result, but the result itself is completely not in the hands of the instrument.

[telkines]

your body-mind speaks!

[prajna8]

Ramesh has not realized his Self. He talks nonsense from his brain. It is all theory from Ramesh and no practical direct experience. What Ramesh is teaching is neo or pseudo advaita which is useless. If you are really interseted in Self Realization you have to study Ramana Maharshi who taught by silence from his Heart. Ramana was a genuine Sage equal to God. Ramana realized his Self at age16 when his ego died after his actual death experience, unlike Rameah who did not have a death experience.

[parthon]

Who the teacher is does not matter. There is no monopoly on Self Realisation. It's the path that's important. Find your path, the one that fits for you, and follow it.

[telkines]

you are too sure of that.

what reason has you of that?

Really we dont know anything that what "happens" into Conciousness. That is the Truth.

[prajna8]

OK my friend, if U say, so be it. The moot point is if the causal or seed body is not destroyed, rebirth is inevitable. Only through the death of the causal body or karana sarira is karma destroyed and rebirth process is finally ended. Look ,in deep sleep both the physical and astral (mental) bodies are merged in the Self. But the anandamaya kosha or bliss sheath (karana sariria) is still present having separated from the Self and denying direct exoerinceof the Self or Supreme Consciousness.

[nownowlife]

DELICIOUS NECTAR !

[mumuwu]

to whom?

[telkines]

Mental disturbs are the "ego", an Illusory entity made of Nothingness, and identified with the Body and Mind.

[mumuwu]

show me the ego

[haroyzbe]

But what happen after death according to ramesh? If there is no free will and no individual soul, so do we all merge into the universal councisness/nirvana? also Hitler and Gandhi in the same way?

[mumuwu]

Nobody will be there to experience anything in particular, you are leaving duality which is experienceable.

[guruscomeinallraces]

Real pettiness and cliquishness about who is enlightened and who isn't. Can anyone ever know? WHO CARES? Even a speaker as powerful, lucid, and clear as Vivekananda said he wasn't enlightened! Does that make his words irrelevant? Someone called Balsekar only a "philosopher" as if that were a put down. Vivekananda, Krishnamurti, and Plato were also 'only' philosophers. There is a humility and honesty in acknowledging we are all subject to words, ideas, and speculative concepts.

[deliciousonionsoup]

What gets me about such videos as this - is that neither the speaker, nor the audience, nor me, nor you can possibly know whether his concepts are true or not. It just happens, probably, that anyone able to belief in his concepts (which might be right or wrong) will probably have a much happier life than me because of the certainty that person feels (whether that certainty be about what is so or about what is not so). I wonder if any such concepts as these are any different to any religion.

[sweeetly]

..I guess the only answer is the one you already have within..truely anything outside is just a pointer..many thanks to all the pointers out there..love from the guru within :)

[deliciousonionsoup]

I hate the not knowing. I hate not knowing whethe such concepts as these are right or wrong. I hate not knowing if the ego is me or if it's something that isn't me, etc.

[sweeetly]

forget what ego is or is not. Feel the truth in your heart, pay attention to your heart. This is where God is

[mumuwu]

is it indeed?

[0nehandclapping]

Ivorbernhart, Maharaj was the one who instructed him to speak!! Ramesh did not set out to speak and in fact the first time Maharaj told him to speak he would not. On his death bed Maharaj exclaimed to him 'Why do you not speak?' And said to Ramesh, a few days after enlightenment had happened, 'I am glad that in at least one case it has happened'... although he did add 'well, maybe in one or two other cases.' Ramesh did not set out to become a teacher, people came to him

[ivorbernhart]

He's okay, but I don't think Sri Nisargadatta would have approved of him teaching. Ramesh was one of Nisargadatta's translators and was supposed to remain no more then that and then go his own way, but decided to teach anyway. He isn't Self realized and Nisargadatta was completely against anyone who wasn't totally liberated being a spiritual teacher because they don't know the ultimate truth and can only confuse people.

[yinzhishakya]

Excellent! Ramesh is one of the greaters teachers. This video should be posted forever. Rev. Yin Zhi Shakya, OHY

[anico316]

Says you..???

[deliciousonionsoup]

That is a dangerous comment to make. At least Ramesh spoke of them as concepts. You on the other hand speak of them as facts. That is very dangerous because not Ramesh, nor you nor me can know if his concepts were any things more than concepts. The gullible could see your comments and be misguided. Why do you claim to know what Ramesh said is fact when not even Ramesh said that?

[cheshireallycat]

Ramesh started saying its my concept when an awakened disciple of his named Bianca expressed her concern that people may take what he says to be the Truth.

As Lao Tzu said "The Tao that can be spoken is NOT the true Tao"

[deliciousonionsoup]

We can not know. Therefore is the ego really the bad thing they all talk about it being? Is the ego the false self or is it actually the self? Wh really knows if there is an unborn nature, etc. Here I speak of the likes of Ramesh and Adyiashanti.

[cheshireallycat]

How do you kow you cannot know?

This concept is another pointer in itself and not a truth.

We can know and must know and in fact we always already know.

Find out that by which ALL the little knowns are known and you will finally not know. Untill then go on knowing.

[deliciousonionsoup]

"How do you kow you cannot know?"

Yes, it probably is so that I can not know that I can not know.

What then of animals - may we eat them? How can we know if we may, can or should? How do we know when a sense of guilt is true or false?

[cheshireallycat]

Im not making the statement "How do you know you cannot know......." I am asking you to look and see.....is it so? I am suggesting that you actually look into your present knowingness and discover its essential nature. knowing or not. Find out what you are !

[deliciousonionsoup]

That's talking in tongues to me. I've looked many times. I see nothing. All I know is I'm this being with this mind and this body. I know nothing other than that.

[cheshireallycat]

How do you know that?

[deliciousonionsoup]

Well, I could either believe in Ramesh's avowed concept (which may or may not be truth and reality) or I could just go on what I experience (which may or may not be truth and reality either). And all I experience is being this apparent one mind-body entity separate from all other apparent mind-body entities.

Yes, Ramesh might say I am experiencing the consciousness of one programmed mind-body entity - some part of some whole but I'm not knowing of that.

[mumuwu]

Who cares?

[cheshireallycat]

The idea is to really SEE for oneself what is so..............in the meanwhile concepts may relieve the seeking sense or assist in looking in the right direction

[notfarfromhome]

Do you what enlightment is? It is nothing. Then you'll see yourself.

[benjaminbrame]

Yes, the peace become when Ego is realised like a creation of God.

With the understanding that the Both are concepts.

[rajagopal3]

I 1000% agree with you. He has not understood the basic teachings of great saints like Ramana Maharishi, Nisargatta Maharaj, Avdhuta etc. May be Ramesh feels that he is not enlightened and hence started to teach concepts. Good thing he says this is my concept in one video and somewhereelse he says Ramesh does not exists. Has Maharaj used to say that Ramesh uses his Madhyama and Vaighiri because he thinks and speaks according to situation, Blessed are those who dont follow him.

[darwinward]

As a reader of Ramesh for 6 years I can assure you he understands Maharaj; he was Ramesh's guru for the last years of his life & even translated into English the Master's words. Later, he wrote a book explicating Maharaj's teaching "Pointers from Nisargadhatta Maharaj". Ramesh does consider "himself" enlightened, as was later confirmed by Maharaj. Last, his use of the qualifer "concept" is merely yet crucially to remind you that his words are not TRUTH, just pointers."TRUTH" cannot put in words.

[benjaminbrame]

Yeah, Ramesh is maybe the better person who can tell about Nisargadatta or Shri Ramana.

His realisation is sweet and the realisation of Maharaj or Maharshi is like a thunder (is the only difference, I suppose)

[anico316]

Of course you would be in a position to ascertain this notion of yours.

[Ravenpulse]

Damn, this is so true

[justcornelius]

same messaage

[answersquestioned]

You're quite right about his core message. Osho's many great books are clear and unmistakable about that. I was aiming however at your words "fooling himself and others". If one were to focus only on some of the proceedings in Osho commune, you'd find a strong case for that. Don't judge Balsekar too quickly. And, if you really have found it in Ramana and Osho, stick with them. No need to go about comparing them with others. Ultimately, that's only distracting from your spiritual process.

[answersquestioned]

Osho? The puppetmaster that had so many act like idiots? Hahahahaha! Maybe that's the one fooling himself and others?

[vaiman777]

No one here is born saints or sages. A person can be opened up by a spiritual experience, and still be nieve or misinformed because the ego always comes back and because they don't have a good satsang teacher to tell them what's what i.e. The Truth.

There can be a lot of bias too weather someone is between their teenage years and early 30's or a 'woman' and who can imangine a totally Loving God that would be so exclusive.

[justcornelius]

there is no truth there are on concepts

[vaiman777]

At cornelius;

Go deeper than the concept.

[justcornelius]

u'll still never find the truth only more concepts

who is the one that is going deeper? and deeper into what? u can never escape ego and it can never escape concepts.. its a never end cycle

best to just stop searching

[vaiman777]

Best to get a satsang teacher because sometimes you need things explained to you like you were a 3 year old.

[justcornelius]

i know

im at ramesh's now

seen karl renz too

i just feel there no point persuing it

i firmly belive i have no control over life and that there are no answers

[Valerian1]

cornelius, you remind me of sosan's "book of nothing". I think the search is the destination, and although the truths or "concepts" reoccur, our authentic experience of them deepens (we know at deeper levels). Whatever final pronouncement you make, you are merely speaking from one part of the journey. The ego "dies" and continues to reassert itself until the habit of ignoring it becomes second-nature, but the Self remains and continues to expand. "I sought the One thing, but I found all things."

[justcornelius]

how can u get rid of the ego.. enlgithened or not u still have to exist as a seperate entity

gettign rid of the ego is not an option and its stupid to try

[vaiman777]

The ego is difficult because it doens't exist in the first place, but when you reach a brick wall where nothing else works anymore you either put ego and pride aside or keep suffering. Best to die while you're still alive and you obviously haven't suffered enough if you're still existing as a seperate entity.

Lovingly "V"

[justcornelius]

ure right it doesnt exist and yet its there.. very confusing hey..to me the ego will aways be there.. who exactly puts the ego aside??? it just goes round in circles.. its quite head doing

and ive DEF suffered enough hehehe

[ggqbc]

HAhahaa.. Laugh and enjoy the wonder of cosmic theatre.

[juliusw007]

the basic ideas of osho and ramana maharshi are the same nonone is the doer and on freewill, so what is the problem they say the same. there is no me, no you no doer, no seeker.

[11889music]

but if you can only react according to the program of your mind than why are you telling anyone anything? why dont you just let them act as they must?

[AndreaZ64]

11889music, the answer is clearly in your question. Balsekar also can not escape the logic of his basic concepts. Understanding these concepts does not set anyone free. That is why Balsekar is doing what he is doing. The truth is inescapable.

[koanflyer]

Balsekar, for me you aren't illuminated.

[hvncb]

ok, I have you give you a + and a -

[pratyah]

Nisarga was a liberated Being for sure. But I have my doubts about Ramesh being liberated. Also there are lot of talk of Ramesh's bad behaviour with his female friends and devotees. He has also been accused of defrauding his devotees. Besides Ramesh just talks about non doership and there bring no free will and everything being predetermined in life. Is he saying this to justify his own bad behavior? One need not be liberated to talk the talk of Ramesh.

[dodds81]

Epic!!!

[Frennybitch]

It happened that I visited him in Germany. There was a tremendous high energy. His concepts helped me a lot to let go many old ideas about live!

[jesuisravi]

Reminds me of Krishnamurti.Seems true.

[taishichan]

This is amazing, thank you for uploading..