according to passmark, that bitch benches at 332 points average... for reference, the intel atom n270 (think first gen circa summer 2008, 8.9' netbooks) scored 304... so this cpu is just barely better than my old acer aspire one.. also, a 3.2ghz celeron D (single core circa 2005) scores 394.. and my athlon 64 3000+ 2.0ghz scores 491... of course my athlon ii x4 scores 3400 average.. my personal scored around 4000 with the overclock
@psychoclown420 also, that netbook ran vista ultimate sp2 x86 just fine, only thing hampering it was the 1gb of ram and and the IGP.. couldn't do aero for both those reasons, used too much ram and had a conflict with the IGP.. however the 1.6ghz atom n270 didn't strugle really.. with more ram and a better gpu, it would run vista fine.. also i was running it hooked up to a 1920x1080 monitor
@psychoclown420 Wow, maybe Aero slows it down a lot. I have Vista Ultimate x64 on my HTPC, which is an Athlon 64 x2 5600+. It ran horrible on 2GB, but noticeably better on 4GB. Maybe there were a lot of things running on that system though. It never seemed that slow when it used to be my main rig.
I have Windows 7 Pro on my Toshiba NB205, which has an Atom N280 and 2GB RAM. It's decent for what it is, but feels like a 486 compared to my main PC LOL.
@Maxxarcade well i did do some optimizing, obviously i didn't run aero which freed up a lot of memory, disabled sidebar, and followed a guide for disable certain core services like some type of scanner and tablet services etc.. and i only ran one program: google chrome. And of course it was the 32 bit version. Was yours up to sp1 or sp2? that may have made a difference also. One advantage vista had vs XP on my machine was that vista took advantage of teh 2 threads better as well as the memory
You say 2 gigs isn't enough for vista? My "designed for vista" laptop from 2007 was maxed out at 2 gigs. Since that laptop died, I'm now running a Dell Optiplex GX150 with a Pentium 3 processor with Windows XP. POS barely plays 360P quality videos. Ram is MAXED out at 512 MB. I tried to use a 256 MB AGP GPU with it, but it crashes.
nice job! I once made a hackjob capacitor replacement on our old internet browsing computer, was amazed it succeeded, because i was really rough on motherboard and got only dodgy caps, which were motherboard rated. Have no idea if that thing would hold, because computer got upgraded to much newer after a month, haha.
Okay...Youtube is done being a pill, so now that I've seen the whole video... Everex has been through a number of hands and is now a part of Taiwan's Formosa Plastics Group. So too is VIA. The board is made by Gigabyte per its MAC address.
It's not that bad of a little system. The CPU runs very cool and in some cases might not need that fan. (There is fully functional fan speed control as well...SpeedFan software can slow the CPU fan, which I recommend.) I added the rear fan to both of mine.
@uxwbill Vista was a huge mistake, both in general and on these things. In particular, Vista had serious video issues with the VIA/S3G onboard graphics. It would go bonkers when anything more than a simple 2D app was run. I've moved both of mine to other operating systems.
I was more than a little surprised by the presence of a PCI Express slot. The board is part of VIA's PC-1 initiative, and was certainly better than any low power offering Intel had at the time.
Wal-Mart sold the cheapest versions of these PCs with various distributions of Linux, including "Lindows" (later renamed Linspire) and gOS. But you could get Windows as an extra-cost option, which most people did.
My "Book PC" has a VIA C3 and it does alright running XP with 512 MB RAM, but I would never dare install Vista or 7 on it!
Well, I don't see why you can't trust a HiPro PSU, they've been making them since the 386 days and every one that I've ever seen has worked beyond its rated capacity flawlessly (not recomennded) But Everex did make 386 computers because I used to have one in the late 90's, I got rid of it because at the time, it was worthless, not really vintage. but now,..
@IamFat32 The HiPro was still good, but since it was full of Teapo caps, I decided to swap it. I'll probably recap it later and use it for another system.
Oh and I did some research on the motherboard, looks like a micro atx in a full size atx case.
"VIA pc3500 Mainboard"
"Based around the highly-integrated and low power VIA pc3500 platform, the VIA pc3500 mainboard provides a flexible and feature-rich solution for building energy-efficient PCs featuring the Microsoft Windows Vista operating system."
Believe it or not, it can only run basic Vista and must have been slow and VIA also recommended XP and 2000..
Great job man. I'm always impressed with your work and desire to keep things like this up and running. Most people would have charged those people for a new board and so on but you keep these things out of landfill which is awesome. Love your videos man.
@TheMrgeekmania It's a Hakko 808. I use the 0.8mm nozzle for motherboard work. When I solder the new caps in, I use a Hakko 936-12 soldering station with 1.6mm tip. I also use industrial grade 60/40 rosin core solder.
How much would you say the capacitors cost? I mean, the whole platform can't be worth more than 30 bucks, is it worth it to spend the money on new capacitors/labor?
@vdtot2004 The caps are around 40 cents each for the Nichicon HZ series I used. There are cheaper ones out there that will do the job though. Fixing this system was still a lot cheaper than buying a new one and trying to set up everything the way they need it.
Now that is what you call a cheap piece of junk, a $199 Wal-Mart special. I thought I had it bad in 2008 with my Celeron based Toshiba laptop.... There's cheap & nasty, and then there's stuff like that you just plain stay away from.
Hey Aaron, I was wondering if I could get your opinion on a matter. I have a 17 inch monitor similar to the Acer you show (at 3:42) which when you power it up will have a purple hue and although it is showing as being powered on, the screen will shut off. If you were to hazard a guess, what do you believe is the problem? Do you think it is fixable? I've been meaning to post this question for a while. Any assistance would be very much appreciated!
@segagenesis1989 Without seeing it myself, it's hard to say what the problem could be. But with most LCD's, the weak points are the capacitors and the backlights. Have you ever made a video of it?
Hey, thanks for taking the to reply to my message. I actually procured this LCD monitor from my old office and after the problem arose, it has been sitting in my house for a good 8 months.
If you would consider taking a gander at the problem, I will happily make a video for you to look at. I sit at my laptop every day only to find myself staring at this nonworking monitor that sits just behind it.
I remember VIA processors. I built a tower file server with a C3 @1.0ghz. Its still running well today and i built the thing in 2003. I added some upgrades to Like a sata card beefier power supply Gigabit LAN card. It runs a customized kernel copy of Debian GNU/Linux 5.0
@talldude123 Stability and crashes... i noticed on some machines it seems to do that, i guess hardware compatibility... like my dell vostro made for vista never reinstalled in 3 years XD
Hey maxx! I was wondering. I have a board with a few bad caps but it seems that the ones are bad dont go through this second ground pin it looks like. and the one thats good its connected to this second pin. i dont see it on to many motherboards but sometimes i see some at the bottom where the ground is connected to two pins the standard and the solder is kind bridged or smeared to this second ground. should they all be bridged or maybe this is a defect?
@tyrt100 I use a Hakko 808 desoldering gun with a 0.8mm nozzle, and a Hakko 936 soldering iron with 1.6mm tip. The solder is industrial grade 60/40 tin/lead rosin core.
Hmm never seen a VIA CPU in a desktop. i usually find them in POS machines or laptops. they are excellent for low power applications. Some of there CPU's don't even need a fan. they will run fine with just a passive cooler.
What size hdd did it have?
MixerVM 4 weeks ago
@MixerVM I never checked this particular one, but I think the factory drive was an 80GB Western Digital.
Maxxarcade 4 weeks ago
Were you repairing the computer for them or did they give it to you to keep?
MixerVM 4 weeks ago
@MixerVM I fixed it for a coworker.
Maxxarcade 4 weeks ago
according to passmark, that bitch benches at 332 points average... for reference, the intel atom n270 (think first gen circa summer 2008, 8.9' netbooks) scored 304... so this cpu is just barely better than my old acer aspire one.. also, a 3.2ghz celeron D (single core circa 2005) scores 394.. and my athlon 64 3000+ 2.0ghz scores 491... of course my athlon ii x4 scores 3400 average.. my personal scored around 4000 with the overclock
psychoclown420 1 month ago
@psychoclown420 also, that netbook ran vista ultimate sp2 x86 just fine, only thing hampering it was the 1gb of ram and and the IGP.. couldn't do aero for both those reasons, used too much ram and had a conflict with the IGP.. however the 1.6ghz atom n270 didn't strugle really.. with more ram and a better gpu, it would run vista fine.. also i was running it hooked up to a 1920x1080 monitor
psychoclown420 1 month ago
@psychoclown420 Wow, maybe Aero slows it down a lot. I have Vista Ultimate x64 on my HTPC, which is an Athlon 64 x2 5600+. It ran horrible on 2GB, but noticeably better on 4GB. Maybe there were a lot of things running on that system though. It never seemed that slow when it used to be my main rig.
I have Windows 7 Pro on my Toshiba NB205, which has an Atom N280 and 2GB RAM. It's decent for what it is, but feels like a 486 compared to my main PC LOL.
Maxxarcade 1 month ago
@Maxxarcade well i did do some optimizing, obviously i didn't run aero which freed up a lot of memory, disabled sidebar, and followed a guide for disable certain core services like some type of scanner and tablet services etc.. and i only ran one program: google chrome. And of course it was the 32 bit version. Was yours up to sp1 or sp2? that may have made a difference also. One advantage vista had vs XP on my machine was that vista took advantage of teh 2 threads better as well as the memory
psychoclown420 1 month ago
You say 2 gigs isn't enough for vista? My "designed for vista" laptop from 2007 was maxed out at 2 gigs. Since that laptop died, I'm now running a Dell Optiplex GX150 with a Pentium 3 processor with Windows XP. POS barely plays 360P quality videos. Ram is MAXED out at 512 MB. I tried to use a 256 MB AGP GPU with it, but it crashes.
Trance88 1 month ago
nice job! I once made a hackjob capacitor replacement on our old internet browsing computer, was amazed it succeeded, because i was really rough on motherboard and got only dodgy caps, which were motherboard rated. Have no idea if that thing would hold, because computer got upgraded to much newer after a month, haha.
mechadrake 1 month ago
They must have left that thing on during a bad storm and had a large power surge since almsot every capacitor in the computer is dead.
tony10980 1 month ago
@tony10980 Nope, just a lot of hours on defective caps. I have an HP system with the same bad caps that I will be fixing next.
Maxxarcade 1 month ago
Okay...Youtube is done being a pill, so now that I've seen the whole video... Everex has been through a number of hands and is now a part of Taiwan's Formosa Plastics Group. So too is VIA. The board is made by Gigabyte per its MAC address.
It's not that bad of a little system. The CPU runs very cool and in some cases might not need that fan. (There is fully functional fan speed control as well...SpeedFan software can slow the CPU fan, which I recommend.) I added the rear fan to both of mine.
uxwbill 1 month ago
@uxwbill Vista was a huge mistake, both in general and on these things. In particular, Vista had serious video issues with the VIA/S3G onboard graphics. It would go bonkers when anything more than a simple 2D app was run. I've moved both of mine to other operating systems.
I was more than a little surprised by the presence of a PCI Express slot. The board is part of VIA's PC-1 initiative, and was certainly better than any low power offering Intel had at the time.
uxwbill 1 month ago
Heh heh heh...he said KY...heh heh heh
chickenofsea 1 month ago
I had a via esther and it kicked ass in its day!
TheCatMilton 1 month ago
Wal-Mart sold the cheapest versions of these PCs with various distributions of Linux, including "Lindows" (later renamed Linspire) and gOS. But you could get Windows as an extra-cost option, which most people did.
My "Book PC" has a VIA C3 and it does alright running XP with 512 MB RAM, but I would never dare install Vista or 7 on it!
vwestlife 1 month ago
that computer is a bit of a pirate! The way you say the model name GC3500(AAARRR!) makes me laugh.
Lazydiv 1 month ago
Well, I don't see why you can't trust a HiPro PSU, they've been making them since the 386 days and every one that I've ever seen has worked beyond its rated capacity flawlessly (not recomennded) But Everex did make 386 computers because I used to have one in the late 90's, I got rid of it because at the time, it was worthless, not really vintage. but now,..
IamFat32 1 month ago
@IamFat32 The HiPro was still good, but since it was full of Teapo caps, I decided to swap it. I'll probably recap it later and use it for another system.
Maxxarcade 1 month ago
That buzzard sure booted fast, however, it should be noted that Windows XP had NO Service Packs installed.
weasel2htm 1 month ago
@weasel2htm Yep!, I might not bother with the service packs because I don't think it's connected to the internet. I'll have to ask the owner.
Maxxarcade 1 month ago
Oh and I did some research on the motherboard, looks like a micro atx in a full size atx case.
"VIA pc3500 Mainboard"
"Based around the highly-integrated and low power VIA pc3500 platform, the VIA pc3500 mainboard provides a flexible and feature-rich solution for building energy-efficient PCs featuring the Microsoft Windows Vista operating system."
Believe it or not, it can only run basic Vista and must have been slow and VIA also recommended XP and 2000..
kbhasikevin 1 month ago
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kbhasikevin 1 month ago
Hi. I wonder how do you get the caps out of the board? I tried several times but did'nt succeed
anno32 1 month ago
@anno32 The desoldering gun takes care of it in about 5 seconds. It's pretty hard to do it with solder wick and not mess up the board in the process.
Maxxarcade 1 month ago
Hey Max, i need to recap a power supply for a digital receiver. Anything you would recommend? I'm really inexperienced in this kind of thing.
Jallge 1 month ago
@Jallge Depends on the type of power supply. Most of the time I use Nichicon PW or PS series.
Maxxarcade 1 month ago
Bulging cap = overheating. No wonder there's your problem hehe
starlite2991 1 month ago
Great job man. I'm always impressed with your work and desire to keep things like this up and running. Most people would have charged those people for a new board and so on but you keep these things out of landfill which is awesome. Love your videos man.
youtubasoarus 1 month ago
nice video! what size was the hard drive in this computer?
ashleycox432 1 month ago
a 1.5 Ghz processor and 512mb for Vista Basic damn my 486 boots faster up with windows 95 on it XD
tsukasa2k6 1 month ago
Hi, great video (again!). I was just wondering what the name of the de soldering tool that you use was? It looks pretty robust.
TheMrgeekmania 1 month ago
@TheMrgeekmania It's a Hakko 808. I use the 0.8mm nozzle for motherboard work. When I solder the new caps in, I use a Hakko 936-12 soldering station with 1.6mm tip. I also use industrial grade 60/40 rosin core solder.
Maxxarcade 1 month ago
@Maxxarcade Great, thank you.
TheMrgeekmania 1 month ago
How much would you say the capacitors cost? I mean, the whole platform can't be worth more than 30 bucks, is it worth it to spend the money on new capacitors/labor?
vdtot2004 1 month ago
@vdtot2004 The caps are around 40 cents each for the Nichicon HZ series I used. There are cheaper ones out there that will do the job though. Fixing this system was still a lot cheaper than buying a new one and trying to set up everything the way they need it.
Maxxarcade 1 month ago
Now that is what you call a cheap piece of junk, a $199 Wal-Mart special. I thought I had it bad in 2008 with my Celeron based Toshiba laptop.... There's cheap & nasty, and then there's stuff like that you just plain stay away from.
Blueblur444 1 month ago
Hey Aaron, I was wondering if I could get your opinion on a matter. I have a 17 inch monitor similar to the Acer you show (at 3:42) which when you power it up will have a purple hue and although it is showing as being powered on, the screen will shut off. If you were to hazard a guess, what do you believe is the problem? Do you think it is fixable? I've been meaning to post this question for a while. Any assistance would be very much appreciated!
segagenesis1989 1 month ago
@segagenesis1989 Without seeing it myself, it's hard to say what the problem could be. But with most LCD's, the weak points are the capacitors and the backlights. Have you ever made a video of it?
Maxxarcade 1 month ago
@Maxxarcade
Hey, thanks for taking the to reply to my message. I actually procured this LCD monitor from my old office and after the problem arose, it has been sitting in my house for a good 8 months.
If you would consider taking a gander at the problem, I will happily make a video for you to look at. I sit at my laptop every day only to find myself staring at this nonworking monitor that sits just behind it.
segagenesis1989 1 month ago
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I remember VIA processors. I built a tower file server with a C3 @1.0ghz. Its still running well today and i built the thing in 2003. I added some upgrades to Like a sata card beefier power supply Gigabit LAN card. It runs a customized kernel copy of Debian GNU/Linux 5.0
JinzoDefiler 1 month ago
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JinzoDefiler 1 month ago
What are you going to use it for DX?
TheDataZoo 1 month ago
Am i the only one who likes vista >.> i use it on all my machines bar my gaming rig :P
TheDataZoo 1 month ago
@TheDataZoo I like the look of Vista, and the features of Ultimate, but I don't like the lack of stability and crashes!
talldude123 1 month ago
@talldude123 most of the stability and crashes in Vista have been ironed out with patches and driver updates, but it's still a resource hog!
sonic3243 1 month ago
@talldude123 Stability and crashes... i noticed on some machines it seems to do that, i guess hardware compatibility... like my dell vostro made for vista never reinstalled in 3 years XD
TheDataZoo 1 month ago
I think XP is a much better choice for that machine.
talldude123 1 month ago
Hey maxx! I was wondering. I have a board with a few bad caps but it seems that the ones are bad dont go through this second ground pin it looks like. and the one thats good its connected to this second pin. i dont see it on to many motherboards but sometimes i see some at the bottom where the ground is connected to two pins the standard and the solder is kind bridged or smeared to this second ground. should they all be bridged or maybe this is a defect?
bangulo2012 1 month ago
@bangulo2012 Motherboards are made with several layers. Sometimes the leads are connected to something on an inner layer.
Maxxarcade 1 month ago
@Maxxarcade thanks appreciate your response. gonna recap it see what happens ;)
bangulo2012 1 month ago
You must get capacitors pretty cheap if that thing was worth fixing, and a geforce fx 5200 was worth fixing. I doubt you'd get much for that.
Aeduo 1 month ago
@Aeduo It's only used for slide shows, so there''s no need to upgrade it. Caps are cheap, usually under 50 cents each for the common sizes.
Maxxarcade 1 month ago
Great video... can you show us how you replaced the caps and what type of soldering device was used.
tyrt100 1 month ago
@tyrt100 I use a Hakko 808 desoldering gun with a 0.8mm nozzle, and a Hakko 936 soldering iron with 1.6mm tip. The solder is industrial grade 60/40 tin/lead rosin core.
Maxxarcade 1 month ago
Hmm never seen a VIA CPU in a desktop. i usually find them in POS machines or laptops. they are excellent for low power applications. Some of there CPU's don't even need a fan. they will run fine with just a passive cooler.
BlueFoxTV 1 month ago
512 is a little low but then again its running the most basic vista
rmx77 1 month ago
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rmx77 1 month ago
Gosh... I didn't know Everex was still around!
Fuzy2K 1 month ago