Ron Vietti is The Most Boring Closeted Homosexual false Preachwer of all Time! i REBUKE Him and His valley Bible fellowship CULT BOTH IN JESUS NAME!!!!
I had a friend of mine recently visit valley bible fellowship bakersfield kind of undercover to make note of all the false doctrine being preached there. Ron vietti endorses and supports rob bell and the emergent church. Yes its bad. His already cultic church is getting worse and the blinded to the truth idiot members cant see it!!
Sorry but i just watched a video in which Ron Vietti said that he is not sure if there is a hell or not and i could not comment on that page so i am doing it here. Hell is a place that was not intended for us but for the devil and his angels, but just like any just judge, he punishes for wrong doing which is hell and the Bible clearly states this. To say that there is no punishment for sin is absolutely ridiculous seeing that God can not dwell in a place of sin meaning that sin wont go to heaven
Oh man. I was hoping to hear an interesting rebuttal. Quoting the Bible doesn't constitute a rebuttal. The Bible predicts that people will ridicule it. So what. It -IS- ridiculous in many parts. I actually haven't liked much of what I seen of Religulous. But at least Bill Maher is entertaining if nothing else.
How about a ron vieui rebuttal or a valley bible fellowship rebuttal part one of infinity! That man is a false preacher and his church is a cult in every way shape and form !!
OMG what is this guy rattling on about! The Bible is not evidence! You can't rebutt free thinking accusations of The Bible being a man written document and so not constituting evidence of what happens after we die, miracles, how the world began etc by reading The Bible to us! My word these people are flabbergastingly indoctrinated. Think damn you!
Ron Vietti also preached an entire sermon On Homosexuality. Little Did he Know That Nathan Lane was in attendance,visiting friends in bakersfiels california,and That He WAS Going To Give a HUGE Tythe to The Church. Instead,he walked Out of There and Left! THAT Video is ALSO On Youtube!
So basically he tries to counter Bill Maher's argument with NOTHING but quotes from a book that Bill picks apart as racist and evil in the movie.. Hmmm...
Ron Vietti is A Moron! One Sunday He Says that No Man Can Hear The Voice Of The Lord. Next Sunday,He Says The Lord Spoke To Him! Another Example Of This False Preacher? One Sunday He Says Someone In The Audience Has Cancer. Next Sunday HE Was Diagnoseed With Cancer! An Offering was Taken for His Hospital satay which the Church PAID For anyways! So Where did all Of That Money go? Does He NOT Believe That GOD Can Cure And Heal ALL Things? Now He isn't sure if He Recieves Prophetic words fromGod
@AToxicOrange did You just say "PRAISE BE UNTO THE DEMONS?" Proof right here People taht You have been Brainwashed by The FALSE and LAUGHABLE Docctrine preached By Heretic Ron Vietti and His Valley Bible Fellowship CULT!!
If the doctrines of demons preach rationality, then praise be unto the demons, for I have seen the light since the age of six years old. One does not need to investigate leprechauns before deciding not to believe in them. I see no difference with God. A fairy tale all-powerful Creator who created man from dirt. An entire religion based on magic and magical thinking. We're told to ignore fairy tales as simply stories, for magic is not real, yet here you stand, preaching magic to us.
Valley Bible Fellowship,and It's CULT Leader Ron Vietti are Leading mANY People astray with Their False Teachings,and Their Heavy Metal New Age Music that thet are CLAIMING Is "Christian Music"! I Rebuke BOTH Mr. Cult Leader Ron Vietti,and His CULT Valley Bible Fellowship, in JESUS name! May This Place Lose SEVERAL Members! God, PLEASE Give The Current Members Of this CULT the DISCERNMENT to Leave! AMEN!!
Valley Bible Fellowship IS a CULT and Ron Vietti is a Bisexual and a False Preacher! They cLAIM To Be A Non Denominational Christian Church,But their Theology is Pentacostal/Disciples Of Christ which are BOTH Cults with Unbiblical Teachings! Do Your Research! The Music There Is Heavy Metal @Close To,if not satanic! The People In Authority there,are Worse Than The Italian Mafia! And They Do NOT Preach Or Believe in Extending grace! They Even have The "Promise Keepers" cult here Too! Awful church!
lol as "well wishing" as these christians (and other religious people) are... they don't realize how bigoted they are. like when this guy reads his scriptures in the beginning he shows how ignorant and backward his religion is. it's more of a cult/terrorist organization that uses threats to keep people believing in their made up god.
i can understand the atheist coming here and leaving these evil comments, may god bless them, but how could you come here as a follower of Christ and Judge and call him a homosexual and leader of a Cult. Anything that leads anyone to the bible is great and the lord wont lead them in the wrong direction! lets never forget that It doesnt matter whos preaching just hear the word of GOD and do your own research in the bible.
I Used To attend Vbf Las Vegas. They Treated Me Like The SHIT That Hey Most Definitely are! And NEVER Extended ANY Type Of Grace Or Forgiveness AS THE BIBLE COMMANDS! FUCK THESE CULT MEMBERS AND THEIR CHURCH! THEY ALL ARE VERY GAY AND WEAR DARK SUNGLASSES EVEN WHEN IT IS RAINING OUTSIDE TOO> WHY?????????????????
Ron Vietti Is A false Preacher,and a Closeted Homosexual! The Music at His Church is HORRIBLE loud sacrilige Heavy metal Guitar,and Possibly Satanic1 How Does THAT Glorify God???
Julius Africanus was a Christian philosopher of the third century A.D.
Lucian was second century, as you said.
None of these are contemporary. You also forgot Tacitus.
If you think this is non-biblical evidence for Christ then you're an idiot. None of them lived during Christ's lifetime. They only tell us that Christians of their times worshipped someone called Christ, who they believed was the Messiah. We know that! It doesn't make them right.
Your list of secular evidence for Jesus outside the bible is horrible.
Suidas (or the Suda), if that's who you meant, is tenth century A.D. That is, writing at a time when to not believe in xtianity was considered heresy.
Pliny is Trajianic.
The passage you quoted from Josephus is almost universally considered to be an interpolation by the Christian-Byzantine monks through whose hands the manuscript tradition has come down to us: it would be absurd for a Jew to call Christ the Messiah.
Ron Vietti is a false Preacher. His teachings are Part Disciples of Christ,and part Pentecopstal. Do Your Research on The beliefs of BOTH of these CULTS. Then Listen To Some of The Heavy Metal "Purpose Driven" Music they have at this "SUPPOSEDLY" Christian Church,then tell me it is NOT a CULT! Cause it most definitely is!
Doesn't suprise me that atheist r coming here 2 justify there atheism & saying God awful things. Atheist dont want the spirit of God they want a Godless untopa where they can do whatever ungodly thing they want. Like having sex with as many women/men as they want swearing as much as they want, watching as much porn as they, using the LORD name n vain as much as they want, threatening people as much as they want, drinking as much as they want & other ungodly things. That the perfect atheist world
@ILYIAB Um that the first time I heard that but I'm the farthist thing from a Muslim. You will never hear me tell somebody that if they abonden Christ that I will go out & kill them & there family. Also you will never hear my say Jesus isn't the Son of God & didn't die on the cross. Islam is a religion of death the next bad thing to Islam is atheism with is cult of do what ever the heck you want & there is no consquences after this life. Trust me I was just stating the truth in my comment.
@4ChristGamer Excuse me, but the bible tells you to kill your child if he mouths off to you. Right? Or did god change his mind? Read your bible! Numb nuts.
@ILYIAB Also I never said all atheist where like that I said most. I know a few atheist that actual side more with Christianity then atheism & that are more open to hearing the Gospel & won't tell you to be quit & stop talking about the Bible & wont try to prove the Bible wrong. Those are what I usually call on the fence atheist that will eventually come to Christ & accpet him as there LORD & Savior. The other atheist are the ones I mention in my first comment that have made up there mind.
Bill Maher didn't attack religion. He talks with religious people without trying to convince them of anything. The reactions of these religious people are so immense rediculous that Bill Maher really had to combine religious and rediculous because he had no other choice.
I think its funny.. to see negative comments..lol at least you took the time to watch to video.. therefore a seed was planted.! may God bless You and show you the Truth! =]
@Jenniferramos212 Bullshit!!!! A Seed my ass!! all of his rebuttals were from the King James Bible!!! FAIL!!!! what about the authenticity of the 66 books of the bible??? YOU WOULD HAVE TO LIE!!!
I love it when Pastor Ron asks for members of the audience to call out if they have been set free from drug addiction and the whole crowd shout out. 2:50 .What sort of a crowd was he lecturing too?!!!!!!!
"You said my book is crappy?! Well, I've got news for you: my book contains several passages asserting that it is not, in fact, a crappy book! Therefore your argument is invalid! Checkmate!"
Goddman it, "Religulous" was a GREAT movie, dumb ass rebuttal but thanks for bringing it up in the church and maybe quite a few of them will watch the movie and WAKE UP from this fairytale crap!
Ron vietti is one of the gayest dorkiest pastors you will ever meet and valley bible fellowship is a total and complete cult in every way shape and form. Thank you.
using a book of fairy tales that contains passages that claim its not fairy tales, as evidence that its not a book of fairy tales...... not the brightest tools in the shed here....
Brian Welch thinks He Is Jesus Christ,and Valley Bible Fellowship is a Total and Complete Cult in Every way,shape,and Form,and Ron Vietti is a false preacher! Amen! The Truth Shall Set You Free!
Valley Bible Fellowship is a Total and Complete Cult in every way shape and form and Ron Vietti is a Horrible Preacher and a judgemental Heretic! Please Do Not attend this God awful Church Cult as You have been forwarned! THANK YOU.
Valley Bible Fellowship is a Cult and Ron Vietti is Bisexual and a False Preacher. Trust Me This is Not The type of Church to become a Member of. Very Worldly and Materialistic. Thank You.
Valley Bible Fellowship is a Cult and Ron Vietti is Bisexual and a False Preacher. Trust Me This is NOT The type of Church to become a Member of. Very Worldly and Materialistic. Thank You.
this is ridiculous. haha, like reading from a fiction book 2000 years old spoke of truth... I mean it tries to and is a more an abstract social work than a science book. U cannot trust one book and one person because they say so. Sorry dude, u don't have mental powers... but a powerful imagination. Faith is not a substance (although it might be a combination of chemicals in the brain)... where do u get ur science from... not from evidence.
This guy is a robotic quoter of a book he cant prove was written by anything other than iron age angry men. It has no authority - quotes can be found to justify anything. Christian arrogance and anger at its very worst. Listening to this guy is pure hell!!!!
How about Valley Bible Fellowship Rebuttal? Part one of Infinity! Valley Bible Fellowship is a Total and Complete CULT Filled with Loud Music and Bisexual Heretics and a VERY Feminine Pastor that bends and twists and waters down Gods word and then asks for more money. The Staff that they appoint to positions of authority are All control freaks that are Worse than the Italian Mafia! And NOW Ron Vietti wants to have an entire message judging a movie and a filmmaker He dislikes?!!!
The MAJORITY of Churches today do NOT teach Very Much about the Bible. Instead,they have become corporations with pre written sermons,and are Nothing more than social clubs which offer self help seminars to People,and then ask for a donation. I am Not intersted in changing My entire lifesyle to get the approval of People that i see for one hour and 30 minutes each week. The SAME People that Call them selves CHRISTIANS You will see sinning all the time and judging others for their sins. NO THANKS
this whole jesus thing is insane. we are to take the word of a book, written over 2000 years ago, about a woman and how she didnt get banged by her husband and had a kid. i however it has been proven by science that a woman can indeed have a child without mating. its rare and if i recall the woman usually has guy parts. so either mary was a lair and did in fact get railed by joeseph or she was a shim. either way i call BS on the whole thing
@The Raiderfan84 YES, I have Read The ENTIRE Holy Bible From Beginning to end. YOU are The One That is The MORON!! And You Make yOURSELF Look Bad,by Being a Member of Valley Bible Fellowship and Continuing to be deceived By Their Teachings. I will Pray For You, BROTHER!!
Oh, this is funny seeing all of these people say, "All of you nonbelievers are going to HELL!." I will just laugh my ass off if all of us just go to Hades for not believing in Greek gods, or in the Egyptian underworld. All of us have the same chance of being right or wrong about which god(s) exist or don't, so just calm the fuck down people and just enjoy life.
@lasvegasdaril have you EVER read the bible? Can you spell bible? YOU ARE AN IGNORANT MORON!!! Not a very christian thing to say I'm aware but it needed to be said! SHUT YOUR MOUTH!!! You, like I said before, are making us all look bad!!!
How about Valley Bible Fellowship or Ron Vietti Rebuttal? Part one of infinity! This Church is a Predominantly Bisexual CULT. THANK GOD THAT I LEFT. AMEN!
I find it funny that about half the people on this video that are calling God illogical or stupid, misspelled almost half their comments. Your making a good case for yourself there aren't you? Also, by calling our beliefes (I say "our" because I do believe in God) idiotic you yourself are doing exactly what you condem us for doing. Judging.
What are you wasting your life breath and time to JUDGE anyone?? Who are you to Judge?? By the way, if Jesus had no human father then what was he a half breed?
A Biblical and Scriptual rebuttal Would Be To Compare All Of The Major religions That Were started By man To Non denominational Christianity,BUT even If That Were Done,it Still Makes Ron Vietti Look Like a heretic, Because he is an Unrepentant Bisexual That is A professional at Twisting God's word,all For The Money!
First, I love how all Christians quote scripture to rebut EVERYTHING. You might as quote from the Lord of the Rings. It might have more relevance... Second, people set themselves free from alcoholism and drug addiction. Give credit where credit is due. And finally, here's one for you: Webster Dictionary, letter A: Assholes
Yeah, boasteful and arrogant; fits this "pastor" just fine. Bill's movie went so far over this guy's head it hit orbit...just goes to show you, you can't teach an old preacher new tricks.
Once again bill maher you rest your cause these people believe they have a holy spirit ahahahah omg atleast try to cover up your stupidity in a better way.
Fuckin' Pastor! He's smart enough that he could be working to heal the broken world. And yet here he sits quoting the "word of god" I wonder how much he's paid to sit there and spew?
He's using the bible as a reference....written by humans over 1200 years when people made up stories to interpret nature? Truly fiction and nothing of pure fact. .And Bill Maher is entirely right that no one has some greater mental power (at some base level, not talking about intelligence based upon their own motivation into studying), like foresight past death.
Pity people still hang on to bronze-age myths, rather than true empirical knowledge. This guy knows absolutely nothing of the truth does he? He and his religulous friends can rot while the world moves on and the age of the REAL truth begins.
@Paralititan It's painful to see/hear all those people in the audience clap. I have hope for the next generations to come though. The seeds of truth are persistent. Richard Dawkins should set this guy straight.
It's funny to see a nerdy guy quote a book that was assembled from fairly tales told by illiterate tribesman from the Bronze Age. Really? Do you actually think those morons figured out the god of the bible existed and the thousands of other gods people created didn't. Why is the story of Jesus plagiarized from deities that are older than the Old Testament? Couldn't God come up with an original story? Truly ridiculous.
I was just admiring how beautifully you fulfill Biblical prophecy. Sometimes I wonder if that is what Jesus was doing while they were mocking Him, and scourging Him. I mean all they had to do to disprove the Bible and God was to stop and let Him go. God told us how we were going to act before we even knew we were going to act like that. And then Jesus looks down from the cross and says, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do." Amazing grace indeed.
@rololayloo Wow can I say anti-semetic & racist against Jewish people much. You are clearly calling all the Jewish people of the past dumb & that you are why smarter then them & can invite thing & find new breakthrough discovers they couldn't. But wait that what most atheist do they say there smarter then everybody else & then talk about Magical Unicorn, the tooth fairy & other crazy things & say there scientific. Sounds to me like your more into science-fiction then real sciences.
Very true! it is not wise to use the bible as a rebuttal. Why isn't he quoting from a muslim, buddhist, or hindu text??? why is the christian bible more important for his rebuttal. Plus. Religulous was intended for people who are considered the "sheep" or for those who question and are not fully indoctrinated into religion. i can give you thing after thing after thing. check AronRa or Richard Dawkins!
Only 37 seconds and he goes to scripture. Isnt the point of talking about a Rebuttal on Religulous suppose to follow up with no scripture? He could have gotten a stonger argument if he went without it. I mean:Fight Fire with Fire... To those who are in doubt, bringing scripture this early will lose those people. I just dont like it when people just throw scripture without really bringing anything to the table that Bill Maher has brought at them.
As korix2000 says, circular logic. You cant refute something by quoting the very thing under investigation.' Scientology isn't rubbish! This Scientology book says so!' Stupid or what.
@lasvegasdaril Keep watching Daril eventually you will be glad you did. God loves you even though you are sooo angry at him. One question, what if Pastor Ron is right?
@naicoach If Pastor Ron is right, I don't want to be a part of a religion that condones stoning women to death if they aren't virgins come marriage time.
You can't compare having faith that the sun will come up tommorow to having faith that jesus will float out of the sky. The sun has never failed to rise and has done it for millions of yeasr. No one alive today has ever seen Jesus.
Bible was written by man, not god, so I am not sure what this even proves. I mean, what is the point in reading Bible to someone who does not believe in it?
Seriously, you cannot argue holy spirit. That is just stupid.
Jesus Died on The Cross For Our Sins, SEVERAL Years Ago. And The Bible ALSO says That Jesus was Without Sin. The Year Is 2010 People! How many Years has it been,Since Jesus Went To The Cross? SEVERAL! He was beat Tortured whipped etc. Hell I Have Seen Boyfriends Do That To their Girlfriends! Usually,People Live A Lifespan of No More Than 100 Years,Some More IF lucky. So The Number Of Years That Jesus Has NOT Experienced pain as Opposed to what WE Continue To experience,GET MY POINT?
@lasvegasdaril Uh, no, I don't get any point you're making in this ramble, and your caps button seems to be stuck on every first letter of every word o.O
As he claims that the gospels of Matthew and John were written by their traditional authors and that Josephus, Africanus, and Pliny are actually contemporary historians that could have known Jesus, you really start to wonder how he can be so confident. It's funny that he mentions the gnostic gospels, since I guarantee he doesn't see them as credible. The sad thing is that all of the people in the congregation probably went home with their faith strengthened, due to these "historical evidences."
I love how at 1:09, when this clown starts listing things, that people have been doing since the dawn of civilization, as if they've yet to be done...what a fucking joke.
Ok again this is another sad moment for christains and catholics in particular. He just said there like two separate species. Now I know this guy is most likely an evangelical.We posses metal powers really? he cannot understand the holy spirit cause it's a hard concept ok sometimes i question if there is a God I mean where's God in my life huh? U tell me without having to look to a bible verse.
Ok another thing u just cause u don't do in the name of God doesn't mean ur a bad person. Bill Maher isn't a bad person. Now Pope urban 2 who was around at the time of the Crusades use God's name in terms of his own agenda to regain the holy back in violence
here's ur problem with the first quote that was written 2 thousand years ago when people thought down on the idea of us being animals. But in fact the turth is that we are animals and also he is making fun of a radicals from all religions ok
no intellectual discussion, evidential rebuttal, just mass surrendering of thinking to mind numbing auto jargon and emotive mystical programming.let the brain washing begin....
@anunhealthydistrust Ummm no fucking shit dude I'm getting a little pissed from all u. No duh it fits because he disagrees with those people in the movie. Just like how u would disagree that u don't believe in evolution or sci and that everything of genesis is true and happened factually it's just a matter of interpation and that's the way the bible's always been so who's to say that you or that guy who's speaking is right or Bill Maher is right?
I Attended valley Bible Fellowship In Las Vegas Nevada A LONG time ago,and I Actually met Ron Vietti. He Is WEIRD! At The Beginning Of Every Service,I Kid You Not,He is walking Around in a Circle Talking To himself(He calls it Praying)! And He Is Terrified To shake Hands with people That he Does Not know(Mainly New People to "HIS" Church,Because He Beleives This Bullshit About A transferring Of Demonic Spirits). He is A Very BORING preacher,And His Doctrine Is Watered Down Pentacostalism!
This pastor is amazing a true man of God...say what you want...believe what you want...He'll be right there by Gods side when he leaves this terrible world :) Where will you be?...I pray for you non-believers
The person speaking to this group is a sick sick man. Robbed of rationality by a story book. Thinking mysticism set's people free. Give credit where credit is due, in the people not in the invisible sky sorcerers.
the only thing religious people can do is go back to the bible, they cannot think for themselves about anythingg! that is what bill maher means about slaveholders and bondage. religious people are enslaved to god and the bible.
so i guess addicts aren't a slave to drugs, drunks a slave to alcohol, rapists & pedophiles slaves to porn, killers are slaves to murder. seems like people who do bad things are slaves to sin.
this sounds crazy? i know! cuz its never been put in perspective before. hmm, is there anyone else out there who can think OUTSIDE the box? hollaaaa! One luv...keepin it real amonst tha fakers. Peace~!
If the Bible doesn't hold any truth, then why are the scriptures the pastor recites apply to the very nature of those who despise God? The vulgarity going on here sounds like "reviling the things which they do not understand" & asking for proof/scientific evidence sounds like "the things which they know by instinct" & instinct is associated in the animal kingdom & animals don't reason & think logically. Thus, the bible said like "unreasoning animals. Where's the falsification in that passage?
because you see those people as haters because that's what the bible as thought you. the bible covers its self in many ways about people doubting it. why do you think when someone questions the bible people who defend it turn to it? because the people has a explanation for everything. and because it tends to be general and vague you will find a spot for anyone.
personally i think people should be respectful of others beliefs of a religion. even if the religion makes no sense sometimes.
Go head Pastor Ron! Scripture is the only truth this corrupted world HAS! People who don't love Jesus are haters...Stop hatin people! Remember that Bible means Basic Instruction Before Leaving Earth. Get wisdom haters! lol...i used to be a hater too...but God is so good and has done amazing things in my life as if He were PROOVING it to me! I love my God and my life and I am blessed, happy, and loved! America should be too...but they're lost. poor things
Isn't a little judgemental to say that people that don't believe in God are haters and that they are unwise? And wouldn't making such judgements be the exact OPPOSITE of what religion is supposed to teach? Seems just a tad hippocritical to me.
you're right...i was being judgemental. But what i meant about "haters" were people who hate/disbelieve the Gospel. Unwise, because non-believers cannot even discern the difference between truth and theory because none have approached the bible with an open mind/heart but are just ready to oppose it. Also, to your surprise, I don't practice "religion." Its about relationship with the Creator...we're merely the creatures who are or can be ridiculously blessed! =)
see thats one thing i hate. if you dont buy god the your a hater or sinner or something. its the "with us or agenst us" thing. you act like its impossible that some people think criticly and the only reason someone might not believe in god is because of the devil or they have sin in their heart or something. and "amazing things" happening in your life does not prove god. maybe....just MAYBE good things happen to people. i know crazy idea huh.
I don't have to prove God. He's proved Himself to me =). You may call it coincidence...i call it miraculous coincidences because of the perfect timing that doesn't happen by chance. And haters are the ones that curse and judge people because of their faith. Why do non-believers get so violent? is it necessary? word of wisdom: those who anger you, control you. I don't lose sleep over anything or anyone even when i go through crap...it's called being blessed. try it sometimes.
i find that funny that "non-believers" are teh haters. homophobes, kkk, burning people at the stake, ect are all closely related to god. you say your not angered but you feel the need to talk down to me. as if i am always angry and cant sleep because of sin and so on. that in itself is a form of anger. i don't feel the need to talk down to you personally and i am not the one with god. don't you find that weird that your trash talking yet in the same sentence saying "your at peace". what a joke.
o and another thing. "haters are the ones that curse and judge people because of a faith". are you not doing the same thing by saying we are going to hell for not believing the same thing as you and are full of hate? what kind of hypocritical bs is that? sorry you don't need god to be happy. you might but not everyone needs someone to tell them someone loves them up in the sky to feel happy in life.
in any of my posts, did I say YOU were going to hell. please don't put words in my mouth,,,you're taking my comments out of context to justify yourself...you're being a false witness and a liar. And what i meant about "happy.." listen...i meant DURING crappy times everyone goes through..i was saying that hard times in life doesn't get me down...what's the wrong in that? no one is positive anymore...sad thing
I mean in general not you said personally. if you don't believe in god you go to hell (in most religions) and most people of god believe that and will say it and that's talking down to people.
as for the happy thing your passing judgment on people you have never meet. without good we cant stay positive in bad times? life always gets us down when bad stuff happen? your right tho no one is positive anymore. like saying people in general are not positive/happy/whatever. depressing outlook that is.
No, i don't talk down on people..bcuz i wouldn't want someone to do that to me. About being happy, joyful, at peace, etc...I've encountered many ppl (even Christians) who, when they go through hard times (relationship, finances, etc.) they get really frustrated, stressed out/feeling hopeless/ angry. I've also gone thru (& still am) going thru these things but I don't let it get me down bcuz God promised that I would & WILL have abundant life through Christ Jesus. that's all so my joy remains
Atheist means you don't believe in God so using the bible to prove your points doesn't work when you're speaking to atheists who DONT BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE. The bible means nothing to atheists. THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN ANY OF IT. That means that proving its existence by reading off random, meaningless passages in the bible is not going to persuade anyone but people who truly believe that it's the word of god. Btw, am I the only one who noticed that he compared Christians to six year olds....?
To ALL who choose to excersize their First Amendment right...know that Happy are those who are attacked on account of righteousness: for the kingdom of heaven will be theirs.
AND although the people leaving these types of comments may not EVER comprehend that those comments are not offensive but forgiven for they have no knowledge of what they are doing. And they made division of his clothing among them by the decision of chance.
Here you go in BASIC ENGLISH so you all understand! :)
Ron Vietti is The Most Boring Closeted Homosexual false Preachwer of all Time! i REBUKE Him and His valley Bible fellowship CULT BOTH IN JESUS NAME!!!!
remusnigga 1 month ago
@remusnigga Yes you may, but like me, he loves you and your sin, just like god does too.
crapadotol 22 hours ago in playlist Favorite videos
Actually he is approving what Bill Maher said.
possumGFX 1 month ago
I had a friend of mine recently visit valley bible fellowship bakersfield kind of undercover to make note of all the false doctrine being preached there. Ron vietti endorses and supports rob bell and the emergent church. Yes its bad. His already cultic church is getting worse and the blinded to the truth idiot members cant see it!!
remusnigga 2 months ago
@remusnigga open your eyes
crapadotol 22 hours ago in playlist Favorite videos
Sorry but i just watched a video in which Ron Vietti said that he is not sure if there is a hell or not and i could not comment on that page so i am doing it here. Hell is a place that was not intended for us but for the devil and his angels, but just like any just judge, he punishes for wrong doing which is hell and the Bible clearly states this. To say that there is no punishment for sin is absolutely ridiculous seeing that God can not dwell in a place of sin meaning that sin wont go to heaven
RevJhow12 2 months ago
Ron Vietti is a False Preacher!
brianwelchisaphony 4 months ago
Oh man. I was hoping to hear an interesting rebuttal. Quoting the Bible doesn't constitute a rebuttal. The Bible predicts that people will ridicule it. So what. It -IS- ridiculous in many parts. I actually haven't liked much of what I seen of Religulous. But at least Bill Maher is entertaining if nothing else.
jakebowkett01 4 months ago
How about a ron vieui rebuttal or a valley bible fellowship rebuttal part one of infinity! That man is a false preacher and his church is a cult in every way shape and form !!
lasvegastroll 5 months ago
OMG what is this guy rattling on about! The Bible is not evidence! You can't rebutt free thinking accusations of The Bible being a man written document and so not constituting evidence of what happens after we die, miracles, how the world began etc by reading The Bible to us! My word these people are flabbergastingly indoctrinated. Think damn you!
flyingb09 6 months ago
Ron Vietti also preached an entire sermon On Homosexuality. Little Did he Know That Nathan Lane was in attendance,visiting friends in bakersfiels california,and That He WAS Going To Give a HUGE Tythe to The Church. Instead,he walked Out of There and Left! THAT Video is ALSO On Youtube!
remusnigga 6 months ago
While I think lasvegas troll is as weird... I agree with pimpinprice4u. He has no rational arguement. He uses the very essence of the problem!
M82Nick 6 months ago
So basically he tries to counter Bill Maher's argument with NOTHING but quotes from a book that Bill picks apart as racist and evil in the movie.. Hmmm...
pimpinprice4U 6 months ago
He looks like Andy Dick...
harmo777 7 months ago
Ron Vietti is A Moron! One Sunday He Says that No Man Can Hear The Voice Of The Lord. Next Sunday,He Says The Lord Spoke To Him! Another Example Of This False Preacher? One Sunday He Says Someone In The Audience Has Cancer. Next Sunday HE Was Diagnoseed With Cancer! An Offering was Taken for His Hospital satay which the Church PAID For anyways! So Where did all Of That Money go? Does He NOT Believe That GOD Can Cure And Heal ALL Things? Now He isn't sure if He Recieves Prophetic words fromGod
lasvegastroll 8 months ago
This is hardly a rebuttal. This is just someone quoting Bible verses
backwoodsninja 8 months ago
@AToxicOrange did You just say "PRAISE BE UNTO THE DEMONS?" Proof right here People taht You have been Brainwashed by The FALSE and LAUGHABLE Docctrine preached By Heretic Ron Vietti and His Valley Bible Fellowship CULT!!
lasvegastroll 8 months ago
If the doctrines of demons preach rationality, then praise be unto the demons, for I have seen the light since the age of six years old. One does not need to investigate leprechauns before deciding not to believe in them. I see no difference with God. A fairy tale all-powerful Creator who created man from dirt. An entire religion based on magic and magical thinking. We're told to ignore fairy tales as simply stories, for magic is not real, yet here you stand, preaching magic to us.
AToxicOrange 9 months ago
Valley Bible Fellowship,and It's CULT Leader Ron Vietti are Leading mANY People astray with Their False Teachings,and Their Heavy Metal New Age Music that thet are CLAIMING Is "Christian Music"! I Rebuke BOTH Mr. Cult Leader Ron Vietti,and His CULT Valley Bible Fellowship, in JESUS name! May This Place Lose SEVERAL Members! God, PLEASE Give The Current Members Of this CULT the DISCERNMENT to Leave! AMEN!!
lasvegastroll 9 months ago
Valley Bible Fellowship IS a CULT and Ron Vietti is a Bisexual and a False Preacher! They cLAIM To Be A Non Denominational Christian Church,But their Theology is Pentacostal/Disciples Of Christ which are BOTH Cults with Unbiblical Teachings! Do Your Research! The Music There Is Heavy Metal @Close To,if not satanic! The People In Authority there,are Worse Than The Italian Mafia! And They Do NOT Preach Or Believe in Extending grace! They Even have The "Promise Keepers" cult here Too! Awful church!
lasvegastroll 9 months ago
lol as "well wishing" as these christians (and other religious people) are... they don't realize how bigoted they are. like when this guy reads his scriptures in the beginning he shows how ignorant and backward his religion is. it's more of a cult/terrorist organization that uses threats to keep people believing in their made up god.
thecarrotdude 9 months ago
i can understand the atheist coming here and leaving these evil comments, may god bless them, but how could you come here as a follower of Christ and Judge and call him a homosexual and leader of a Cult. Anything that leads anyone to the bible is great and the lord wont lead them in the wrong direction! lets never forget that It doesnt matter whos preaching just hear the word of GOD and do your own research in the bible.
God bless all you're always in my prayers.
jumbo2tha 10 months ago
I Used To attend Vbf Las Vegas. They Treated Me Like The SHIT That Hey Most Definitely are! And NEVER Extended ANY Type Of Grace Or Forgiveness AS THE BIBLE COMMANDS! FUCK THESE CULT MEMBERS AND THEIR CHURCH! THEY ALL ARE VERY GAY AND WEAR DARK SUNGLASSES EVEN WHEN IT IS RAINING OUTSIDE TOO> WHY?????????????????
lasvegastroll 10 months ago
how many of you have attended valley bible longer than 2 months?
dcervantes711 10 months ago
Ron Vietti Is A false Preacher,and a Closeted Homosexual! The Music at His Church is HORRIBLE loud sacrilige Heavy metal Guitar,and Possibly Satanic1 How Does THAT Glorify God???
lasvegastroll 10 months ago
Julius Africanus was a Christian philosopher of the third century A.D.
Lucian was second century, as you said.
None of these are contemporary. You also forgot Tacitus.
If you think this is non-biblical evidence for Christ then you're an idiot. None of them lived during Christ's lifetime. They only tell us that Christians of their times worshipped someone called Christ, who they believed was the Messiah. We know that! It doesn't make them right.
Bevelle3 10 months ago
Your list of secular evidence for Jesus outside the bible is horrible.
Suidas (or the Suda), if that's who you meant, is tenth century A.D. That is, writing at a time when to not believe in xtianity was considered heresy.
Pliny is Trajianic.
The passage you quoted from Josephus is almost universally considered to be an interpolation by the Christian-Byzantine monks through whose hands the manuscript tradition has come down to us: it would be absurd for a Jew to call Christ the Messiah.
Bevelle3 10 months ago
The Hollman Christian standard bible Is The Most Accurate!
lasvegastroll 10 months ago
Ron Vietti Is a Gay Cult Member that Wants Your Money!
lasvegastroll 11 months ago
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devilman381 11 months ago
@ILYIAB why Don't You go and Kill YOUR Child! I am So sick and Tired of MY taxpayer Dollars going to Support YOUR bastard Child!
brianwelchisaphony 11 months ago
Ron Vietti is a false Preacher. His teachings are Part Disciples of Christ,and part Pentecopstal. Do Your Research on The beliefs of BOTH of these CULTS. Then Listen To Some of The Heavy Metal "Purpose Driven" Music they have at this "SUPPOSEDLY" Christian Church,then tell me it is NOT a CULT! Cause it most definitely is!
brianwelchisaphony 11 months ago
Doesn't suprise me that atheist r coming here 2 justify there atheism & saying God awful things. Atheist dont want the spirit of God they want a Godless untopa where they can do whatever ungodly thing they want. Like having sex with as many women/men as they want swearing as much as they want, watching as much porn as they, using the LORD name n vain as much as they want, threatening people as much as they want, drinking as much as they want & other ungodly things. That the perfect atheist world
4ChristGamer 11 months ago
@4ChristGamer You are strange. You sound like a hardcore muslim.
ILYIAB 11 months ago
@ILYIAB Um that the first time I heard that but I'm the farthist thing from a Muslim. You will never hear me tell somebody that if they abonden Christ that I will go out & kill them & there family. Also you will never hear my say Jesus isn't the Son of God & didn't die on the cross. Islam is a religion of death the next bad thing to Islam is atheism with is cult of do what ever the heck you want & there is no consquences after this life. Trust me I was just stating the truth in my comment.
4ChristGamer 11 months ago
@4ChristGamer Excuse me, but the bible tells you to kill your child if he mouths off to you. Right? Or did god change his mind? Read your bible! Numb nuts.
ILYIAB 11 months ago
@ILYIAB Also I never said all atheist where like that I said most. I know a few atheist that actual side more with Christianity then atheism & that are more open to hearing the Gospel & won't tell you to be quit & stop talking about the Bible & wont try to prove the Bible wrong. Those are what I usually call on the fence atheist that will eventually come to Christ & accpet him as there LORD & Savior. The other atheist are the ones I mention in my first comment that have made up there mind.
4ChristGamer 11 months ago
just because a book that took forever to write & to be put together doesent meen it's true.
mogul50 11 months ago
Ron Vietti is a bisexual Heretic,and valley Bible Fellowship is a CULT!!
brianwelchisaphony 11 months ago
please find a way to refute without deflecting what the church was meant to be about. this i find is abhorent to christs passion and will
ralexand 1 year ago
Religulous provides solid evidence to discredits the Bible. So quoting the Bible as evidence of its own validity is illogical.
TSavage1953 1 year ago
this video is directly for people who NEED others to tell 'em what to believe
lijit77 1 year ago
Oh and wait.....i forgot that he is reading from a UNPROVEN BOOK!!! for his rebuttal
RedBeardCzech 1 year ago
What was he refuting.....people make been like that since the beginning of time????? what and joke
RedBeardCzech 1 year ago
ready to rock n roll n ? is that christian ? lol
loly1969 1 year ago
Bill Maher didn't attack religion. He talks with religious people without trying to convince them of anything. The reactions of these religious people are so immense rediculous that Bill Maher really had to combine religious and rediculous because he had no other choice.
josca2 1 year ago
I think its funny.. to see negative comments..lol at least you took the time to watch to video.. therefore a seed was planted.! may God bless You and show you the Truth! =]
Jenniferramos212 1 year ago
@Jenniferramos212 Bullshit!!!! A Seed my ass!! all of his rebuttals were from the King James Bible!!! FAIL!!!! what about the authenticity of the 66 books of the bible??? YOU WOULD HAVE TO LIE!!!
whosingodsipod 10 months ago
I love it when Pastor Ron asks for members of the audience to call out if they have been set free from drug addiction and the whole crowd shout out. 2:50 .What sort of a crowd was he lecturing too?!!!!!!!
Sarusource 1 year ago
Boring fags like ron vietti should have been insurance salesman in the gay district of san francisco instead. As a preacher he fails BIG TIME .
brianwelchisaphony 1 year ago
Evidently these days, quoting the Bible is rebuttal. lololol herpderp
sehguh1 1 year ago
I always take advice from people who can't tell the difference between the word "revilers" and "revelers".
ArcadeGannon 1 year ago
How about ron vietti rebuttal ? PART ONE OF INFINITY. VALLEY BIBLE FELLOWSHIP IS A CULT AND I REBUKE THEM AND RON VIETTI BOTH IN JESUS NAME. AMEN.
brianwelchisaphony 1 year ago
"You said my book is crappy?! Well, I've got news for you: my book contains several passages asserting that it is not, in fact, a crappy book! Therefore your argument is invalid! Checkmate!"
GENERICCEREAL67 1 year ago
MAN THAT'S TO BAD Y'ALL DON'T KNOW JESUS!
caoromero 1 year ago
He's gay, and stupid, and nobody in that crowd likes him. He reel thought he was doing something there
Imreason 1 year ago
Goddman it, "Religulous" was a GREAT movie, dumb ass rebuttal but thanks for bringing it up in the church and maybe quite a few of them will watch the movie and WAKE UP from this fairytale crap!
Multimixvideos 1 year ago
Ron vietti is one of the gayest dorkiest pastors you will ever meet and valley bible fellowship is a total and complete cult in every way shape and form. Thank you.
brianwelchisaphony 1 year ago
God, this is so horrible.
TheShadowSatey 1 year ago
using a book of fairy tales that contains passages that claim its not fairy tales, as evidence that its not a book of fairy tales...... not the brightest tools in the shed here....
scottpastry 1 year ago
Brian Welch thinks He Is Jesus Christ,and Valley Bible Fellowship is a Total and Complete Cult in Every way,shape,and Form,and Ron Vietti is a false preacher! Amen! The Truth Shall Set You Free!
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
I think Jesus would anally rape this guy.
spungnut 1 year ago
what a moron XD
86Corvus 1 year ago
How is this a "rebuttal"?
gupsphoo 1 year ago
Valley Bible Fellowship is a Total and Complete Cult in every way shape and form and Ron Vietti is a Horrible Preacher and a judgemental Heretic! Please Do Not attend this God awful Church Cult as You have been forwarned! THANK YOU.
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
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Valley Bible Fellowship is a Cult and Ron Vietti is Bisexual and a False Preacher. Trust Me This is Not The type of Church to become a Member of. Very Worldly and Materialistic. Thank You.
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
Valley Bible Fellowship is a Cult and Ron Vietti is Bisexual and a False Preacher. Trust Me This is NOT The type of Church to become a Member of. Very Worldly and Materialistic. Thank You.
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
jeez we have some angry people up in here
its youtube come on now calm down its all going to be fine :)
kimberlee5177 1 year ago
this is ridiculous. haha, like reading from a fiction book 2000 years old spoke of truth... I mean it tries to and is a more an abstract social work than a science book. U cannot trust one book and one person because they say so. Sorry dude, u don't have mental powers... but a powerful imagination. Faith is not a substance (although it might be a combination of chemicals in the brain)... where do u get ur science from... not from evidence.
Bera1989 1 year ago
This guy is a robotic quoter of a book he cant prove was written by anything other than iron age angry men. It has no authority - quotes can be found to justify anything. Christian arrogance and anger at its very worst. Listening to this guy is pure hell!!!!
bigguitar22 1 year ago
How about Valley Bible Fellowship Rebuttal? Part one of Infinity! Valley Bible Fellowship is a Total and Complete CULT Filled with Loud Music and Bisexual Heretics and a VERY Feminine Pastor that bends and twists and waters down Gods word and then asks for more money. The Staff that they appoint to positions of authority are All control freaks that are Worse than the Italian Mafia! And NOW Ron Vietti wants to have an entire message judging a movie and a filmmaker He dislikes?!!!
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
The MAJORITY of Churches today do NOT teach Very Much about the Bible. Instead,they have become corporations with pre written sermons,and are Nothing more than social clubs which offer self help seminars to People,and then ask for a donation. I am Not intersted in changing My entire lifesyle to get the approval of People that i see for one hour and 30 minutes each week. The SAME People that Call them selves CHRISTIANS You will see sinning all the time and judging others for their sins. NO THANKS
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
There have been mockers since christ. The claims of religions are rediculous.
MrJohnnyrace 1 year ago
this whole jesus thing is insane. we are to take the word of a book, written over 2000 years ago, about a woman and how she didnt get banged by her husband and had a kid. i however it has been proven by science that a woman can indeed have a child without mating. its rare and if i recall the woman usually has guy parts. so either mary was a lair and did in fact get railed by joeseph or she was a shim. either way i call BS on the whole thing
zeroflat24 1 year ago
@The Raiderfan84 YES, I have Read The ENTIRE Holy Bible From Beginning to end. YOU are The One That is The MORON!! And You Make yOURSELF Look Bad,by Being a Member of Valley Bible Fellowship and Continuing to be deceived By Their Teachings. I will Pray For You, BROTHER!!
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
Oh, this is funny seeing all of these people say, "All of you nonbelievers are going to HELL!." I will just laugh my ass off if all of us just go to Hades for not believing in Greek gods, or in the Egyptian underworld. All of us have the same chance of being right or wrong about which god(s) exist or don't, so just calm the fuck down people and just enjoy life.
DontCa11MeShirley 1 year ago
@lasvegasdaril have you EVER read the bible? Can you spell bible? YOU ARE AN IGNORANT MORON!!! Not a very christian thing to say I'm aware but it needed to be said! SHUT YOUR MOUTH!!! You, like I said before, are making us all look bad!!!
TheRaiderfan84 1 year ago
This guy is truly an idiot - no evidence for his rambling book of Palistine story-book nonsense. How does this guy talk with incontinent logic?
goldstead 1 year ago
How about Valley Bible Fellowship or Ron Vietti Rebuttal? Part one of infinity! This Church is a Predominantly Bisexual CULT. THANK GOD THAT I LEFT. AMEN!
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
Joseph was Jesus's Human Father You DORK!
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
I find it funny that about half the people on this video that are calling God illogical or stupid, misspelled almost half their comments. Your making a good case for yourself there aren't you? Also, by calling our beliefes (I say "our" because I do believe in God) idiotic you yourself are doing exactly what you condem us for doing. Judging.
pl0xubad 1 year ago
What are you wasting your life breath and time to JUDGE anyone?? Who are you to Judge?? By the way, if Jesus had no human father then what was he a half breed?
SABERINWOLF 1 year ago
I think all of these versus are about Christians, not atheists...
bragladish 1 year ago
A Biblical and Scriptual rebuttal Would Be To Compare All Of The Major religions That Were started By man To Non denominational Christianity,BUT even If That Were Done,it Still Makes Ron Vietti Look Like a heretic, Because he is an Unrepentant Bisexual That is A professional at Twisting God's word,all For The Money!
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
THiS IS A HORRIBLE REBUTTAL
ScientificChampion 1 year ago 10
Additionally, Read 1st Timothy 2 again and take a look in the mirror. Look Mom! I can quote shit out of context too!!!!
brauny1022 1 year ago
First, I love how all Christians quote scripture to rebut EVERYTHING. You might as quote from the Lord of the Rings. It might have more relevance... Second, people set themselves free from alcoholism and drug addiction. Give credit where credit is due. And finally, here's one for you: Webster Dictionary, letter A: Assholes
brauny1022 1 year ago
@brauny1022 lol... shit, that's funny.
bragladish 1 year ago
All of these people calling the Bible names... hurts to see. I used to do that...
LORD, forgive them, they don't know You and don't know what they are saying.
Baruch Attah Adonai, Eloheinu Melech HaOlam.
thelionsshare100 1 year ago
@thelionsshare100 "LORD, forgive them, they don't know You and don't know what they are saying."
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Fuck you, religious zealot.
thecommercialedge 1 year ago
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this guy is so right !! what do you guys not understand ? the bible contradicts what bill maher said so therefore he is wrong end of story.
ryan84160 1 year ago
this guy is so right !! what do you guys not understand ? the bible contradicts what bill maher said so therefore he is wrong end of story.
ryan84160 1 year ago
These people even quote mine their own bible.
no1saphead 1 year ago
Yeah, boasteful and arrogant; fits this "pastor" just fine. Bill's movie went so far over this guy's head it hit orbit...just goes to show you, you can't teach an old preacher new tricks.
jerico641 1 year ago
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RadarGuidedVermin 9 months ago 2
Bil Maher Should Star A Church!
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
Once again bill maher you rest your cause these people believe they have a holy spirit ahahahah omg atleast try to cover up your stupidity in a better way.
gsbgamer 1 year ago
He Is a Bisexual Pothead Preaching watered Down evangelical pentecostal doctrine,and His Church is a Cult Too!
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
if Jesus change the water to win, HOW COME HE SET PEOPLE OUT OF ALCOHOL???
Tereeb 1 year ago
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Tereeb 1 year ago
Fuckin' Pastor! He's smart enough that he could be working to heal the broken world. And yet here he sits quoting the "word of god" I wonder how much he's paid to sit there and spew?
my235 1 year ago
He's using the bible as a reference....written by humans over 1200 years when people made up stories to interpret nature? Truly fiction and nothing of pure fact. .And Bill Maher is entirely right that no one has some greater mental power (at some base level, not talking about intelligence based upon their own motivation into studying), like foresight past death.
BassistMike 1 year ago
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32NOBAMA 1 year ago
Pity people still hang on to bronze-age myths, rather than true empirical knowledge. This guy knows absolutely nothing of the truth does he? He and his religulous friends can rot while the world moves on and the age of the REAL truth begins.
Paralititan 1 year ago
@Paralititan What If?
gollygfunkera 1 year ago
@gollygfunkera What if what?!?
Paralititan 1 year ago
@Paralititan It's painful to see/hear all those people in the audience clap. I have hope for the next generations to come though. The seeds of truth are persistent. Richard Dawkins should set this guy straight.
my235 1 year ago
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It's funny to see a nerdy guy quote a book that was assembled from fairly tales told by illiterate tribesman from the Bronze Age. Really? Do you actually think those morons figured out the god of the bible existed and the thousands of other gods people created didn't. Why is the story of Jesus plagiarized from deities that are older than the Old Testament? Couldn't God come up with an original story? Truly ridiculous.
rololayloo 1 year ago 13
@rololayloo What "dieties" are you reffering to?
eyezopennow 1 year ago
@rololayloo
I was just admiring how beautifully you fulfill Biblical prophecy. Sometimes I wonder if that is what Jesus was doing while they were mocking Him, and scourging Him. I mean all they had to do to disprove the Bible and God was to stop and let Him go. God told us how we were going to act before we even knew we were going to act like that. And then Jesus looks down from the cross and says, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do." Amazing grace indeed.
callingheyzeus 1 year ago
@rololayloo Wow can I say anti-semetic & racist against Jewish people much. You are clearly calling all the Jewish people of the past dumb & that you are why smarter then them & can invite thing & find new breakthrough discovers they couldn't. But wait that what most atheist do they say there smarter then everybody else & then talk about Magical Unicorn, the tooth fairy & other crazy things & say there scientific. Sounds to me like your more into science-fiction then real sciences.
4ChristGamer 11 months ago
Pastor Ron is so awesome! I have experienced God in my own heart and in my own life and I can share stories too!
KHancey1 1 year ago
Old Pastor Wrong's been hitten' the wrong bong again.
whatisdrunkal 1 year ago
Very true! it is not wise to use the bible as a rebuttal. Why isn't he quoting from a muslim, buddhist, or hindu text??? why is the christian bible more important for his rebuttal. Plus. Religulous was intended for people who are considered the "sheep" or for those who question and are not fully indoctrinated into religion. i can give you thing after thing after thing. check AronRa or Richard Dawkins!
armarjaleo 1 year ago
Only 37 seconds and he goes to scripture. Isnt the point of talking about a Rebuttal on Religulous suppose to follow up with no scripture? He could have gotten a stonger argument if he went without it. I mean:Fight Fire with Fire... To those who are in doubt, bringing scripture this early will lose those people. I just dont like it when people just throw scripture without really bringing anything to the table that Bill Maher has brought at them.
BayFlow408 1 year ago
. . He fails to see the irony in his message as he reads the first verses as his rebuttal. . . .
Coltranized 1 year ago
How about Valley Bible Fellowship Rebuttal? Part one of INFINITY !
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
As korix2000 says, circular logic. You cant refute something by quoting the very thing under investigation.' Scientology isn't rubbish! This Scientology book says so!' Stupid or what.
mirata9 1 year ago
God Damn All Of This Religious Bullshit!
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
@lasvegasdaril Keep watching Daril eventually you will be glad you did. God loves you even though you are sooo angry at him. One question, what if Pastor Ron is right?
naicoach 1 year ago
@naicoach If Pastor Ron is right, I don't want to be a part of a religion that condones stoning women to death if they aren't virgins come marriage time.
NekoNoTsuchi 1 year ago
@lasvegasdaril You are using the name of God to damn when you probably don't even believe in God! Does anyone see the irony here?
adsloganville 1 year ago
That crowd had a lot of former drug addicts in it lol 2:55
UltimoLatino 1 year ago
You can't compare having faith that the sun will come up tommorow to having faith that jesus will float out of the sky. The sun has never failed to rise and has done it for millions of yeasr. No one alive today has ever seen Jesus.
autumndominiqe 1 year ago
"My faith is just as good as anybody."
6:35. Uh? Christians think that they are higher than everyone else because they have the "truth". LOL! LOL!
bryanzsteward 1 year ago
this sermon is RIDICULOUS
hereandnow6002 1 year ago
Using the Bible to discredit a challenge to the veracity of the Bible.
"The Bible is the Word of God"
But how can you be sure?
"The Bible tells us so."
Why believe the Bible?
"The Bible is infallible."
How do you know the Bible is infallible?
"Because the Bible is the Word of God." (which is their first assertion)
Circular logic.
korix2000 1 year ago
@korix2000 How about this one?
"The Bible is not the word of God"
But how can you be so sure?
"Because I say so"
Why should I believe you?
"Because I can't be wrong"
What makes you so sure that you're right?
"Because I say so"
Circular logic
adsloganville 1 year ago
What A Boring Fag!
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
Bible was written by man, not god, so I am not sure what this even proves. I mean, what is the point in reading Bible to someone who does not believe in it?
Seriously, you cannot argue holy spirit. That is just stupid.
Chandu83 1 year ago
Jesus Died on The Cross For Our Sins, SEVERAL Years Ago. And The Bible ALSO says That Jesus was Without Sin. The Year Is 2010 People! How many Years has it been,Since Jesus Went To The Cross? SEVERAL! He was beat Tortured whipped etc. Hell I Have Seen Boyfriends Do That To their Girlfriends! Usually,People Live A Lifespan of No More Than 100 Years,Some More IF lucky. So The Number Of Years That Jesus Has NOT Experienced pain as Opposed to what WE Continue To experience,GET MY POINT?
lasvegasdaril 2 years ago
@lasvegasdaril Uh, no, I don't get any point you're making in this ramble, and your caps button seems to be stuck on every first letter of every word o.O
JustinViBritannia 1 year ago
lmao christians are sad sad little creatures who need to be squashed like parasites
Playmeforit 2 years ago
As he claims that the gospels of Matthew and John were written by their traditional authors and that Josephus, Africanus, and Pliny are actually contemporary historians that could have known Jesus, you really start to wonder how he can be so confident. It's funny that he mentions the gnostic gospels, since I guarantee he doesn't see them as credible. The sad thing is that all of the people in the congregation probably went home with their faith strengthened, due to these "historical evidences."
D3PyroGS 2 years ago
I love how at 1:09, when this clown starts listing things, that people have been doing since the dawn of civilization, as if they've yet to be done...what a fucking joke.
420HashSmoker 2 years ago
Ok again this is another sad moment for christains and catholics in particular. He just said there like two separate species. Now I know this guy is most likely an evangelical.We posses metal powers really? he cannot understand the holy spirit cause it's a hard concept ok sometimes i question if there is a God I mean where's God in my life huh? U tell me without having to look to a bible verse.
westeastxybzd 2 years ago
Ok another thing u just cause u don't do in the name of God doesn't mean ur a bad person. Bill Maher isn't a bad person. Now Pope urban 2 who was around at the time of the Crusades use God's name in terms of his own agenda to regain the holy back in violence
westeastxybzd 2 years ago
here's ur problem with the first quote that was written 2 thousand years ago when people thought down on the idea of us being animals. But in fact the turth is that we are animals and also he is making fun of a radicals from all religions ok
westeastxybzd 2 years ago
no intellectual discussion, evidential rebuttal, just mass surrendering of thinking to mind numbing auto jargon and emotive mystical programming.let the brain washing begin....
1adadada 2 years ago
The first bible verse he quotes describes him and his kind perfectly.
anunhealthydistrust 2 years ago 2
@anunhealthydistrust Ummm no fucking shit dude I'm getting a little pissed from all u. No duh it fits because he disagrees with those people in the movie. Just like how u would disagree that u don't believe in evolution or sci and that everything of genesis is true and happened factually it's just a matter of interpation and that's the way the bible's always been so who's to say that you or that guy who's speaking is right or Bill Maher is right?
westeastxybzd 2 years ago
This man is full of self. A micro manager and has driven good people out of the ministry for years.
carlesglass 2 years ago
How About Valley Bible Fellowship rebuttal? Part 1 Of INFINITY!
lasvegasdaril 2 years ago
Do Not be A Slave To The Ron Vietti's teachings or To The Cult That is, Valley Bible Fellowship! Thank You!
lasvegasdaril 2 years ago
I Attended valley Bible Fellowship In Las Vegas Nevada A LONG time ago,and I Actually met Ron Vietti. He Is WEIRD! At The Beginning Of Every Service,I Kid You Not,He is walking Around in a Circle Talking To himself(He calls it Praying)! And He Is Terrified To shake Hands with people That he Does Not know(Mainly New People to "HIS" Church,Because He Beleives This Bullshit About A transferring Of Demonic Spirits). He is A Very BORING preacher,And His Doctrine Is Watered Down Pentacostalism!
lasvegasdaril 2 years ago
This pastor is amazing a true man of God...say what you want...believe what you want...He'll be right there by Gods side when he leaves this terrible world :) Where will you be?...I pray for you non-believers
TELL THEM PASTOR RON!!!! WOOOOOHOOOO!!!
CCbabyy32 2 years ago
baaaaalshiiiiiiitt
1werall 2 years ago
The person speaking to this group is a sick sick man. Robbed of rationality by a story book. Thinking mysticism set's people free. Give credit where credit is due, in the people not in the invisible sky sorcerers.
fuelburningoracle 2 years ago
the only thing religious people can do is go back to the bible, they cannot think for themselves about anythingg! that is what bill maher means about slaveholders and bondage. religious people are enslaved to god and the bible.
you are fucking slaves
DJMelon100 2 years ago
so i guess addicts aren't a slave to drugs, drunks a slave to alcohol, rapists & pedophiles slaves to porn, killers are slaves to murder. seems like people who do bad things are slaves to sin.
this sounds crazy? i know! cuz its never been put in perspective before. hmm, is there anyone else out there who can think OUTSIDE the box? hollaaaa! One luv...keepin it real amonst tha fakers. Peace~!
misshyde051 2 years ago
If the Bible doesn't hold any truth, then why are the scriptures the pastor recites apply to the very nature of those who despise God? The vulgarity going on here sounds like "reviling the things which they do not understand" & asking for proof/scientific evidence sounds like "the things which they know by instinct" & instinct is associated in the animal kingdom & animals don't reason & think logically. Thus, the bible said like "unreasoning animals. Where's the falsification in that passage?
misshyde051 2 years ago
because you see those people as haters because that's what the bible as thought you. the bible covers its self in many ways about people doubting it. why do you think when someone questions the bible people who defend it turn to it? because the people has a explanation for everything. and because it tends to be general and vague you will find a spot for anyone.
personally i think people should be respectful of others beliefs of a religion. even if the religion makes no sense sometimes.
Nupiyo 2 years ago
This guy is a joke. He has no ethics what so ever.
Sk8nrun18 2 years ago
Hardcore religous people scare the shit out of me.
PistolPete032 2 years ago
Why would God provide us with the ability to reason if he didn't want us to use it?
christa2492 2 years ago
An ad hominem attack based on... scripture. Yes, seems to be a pattern in the thinking of religulous people. Well done, Bill Maher!
420NewZealand 2 years ago
Go head Pastor Ron! Scripture is the only truth this corrupted world HAS! People who don't love Jesus are haters...Stop hatin people! Remember that Bible means Basic Instruction Before Leaving Earth. Get wisdom haters! lol...i used to be a hater too...but God is so good and has done amazing things in my life as if He were PROOVING it to me! I love my God and my life and I am blessed, happy, and loved! America should be too...but they're lost. poor things
misshyde051 2 years ago
@misshyde051
Isn't a little judgemental to say that people that don't believe in God are haters and that they are unwise? And wouldn't making such judgements be the exact OPPOSITE of what religion is supposed to teach? Seems just a tad hippocritical to me.
christa2492 2 years ago
@christa2492
you're right...i was being judgemental. But what i meant about "haters" were people who hate/disbelieve the Gospel. Unwise, because non-believers cannot even discern the difference between truth and theory because none have approached the bible with an open mind/heart but are just ready to oppose it. Also, to your surprise, I don't practice "religion." Its about relationship with the Creator...we're merely the creatures who are or can be ridiculously blessed! =)
misshyde051 2 years ago
see thats one thing i hate. if you dont buy god the your a hater or sinner or something. its the "with us or agenst us" thing. you act like its impossible that some people think criticly and the only reason someone might not believe in god is because of the devil or they have sin in their heart or something. and "amazing things" happening in your life does not prove god. maybe....just MAYBE good things happen to people. i know crazy idea huh.
Nupiyo 2 years ago
I don't have to prove God. He's proved Himself to me =). You may call it coincidence...i call it miraculous coincidences because of the perfect timing that doesn't happen by chance. And haters are the ones that curse and judge people because of their faith. Why do non-believers get so violent? is it necessary? word of wisdom: those who anger you, control you. I don't lose sleep over anything or anyone even when i go through crap...it's called being blessed. try it sometimes.
misshyde051 2 years ago
i find that funny that "non-believers" are teh haters. homophobes, kkk, burning people at the stake, ect are all closely related to god. you say your not angered but you feel the need to talk down to me. as if i am always angry and cant sleep because of sin and so on. that in itself is a form of anger. i don't feel the need to talk down to you personally and i am not the one with god. don't you find that weird that your trash talking yet in the same sentence saying "your at peace". what a joke.
Nupiyo 2 years ago
o and another thing. "haters are the ones that curse and judge people because of a faith". are you not doing the same thing by saying we are going to hell for not believing the same thing as you and are full of hate? what kind of hypocritical bs is that? sorry you don't need god to be happy. you might but not everyone needs someone to tell them someone loves them up in the sky to feel happy in life.
Nupiyo 2 years ago
in any of my posts, did I say YOU were going to hell. please don't put words in my mouth,,,you're taking my comments out of context to justify yourself...you're being a false witness and a liar. And what i meant about "happy.." listen...i meant DURING crappy times everyone goes through..i was saying that hard times in life doesn't get me down...what's the wrong in that? no one is positive anymore...sad thing
misshyde051 2 years ago
I mean in general not you said personally. if you don't believe in god you go to hell (in most religions) and most people of god believe that and will say it and that's talking down to people.
as for the happy thing your passing judgment on people you have never meet. without good we cant stay positive in bad times? life always gets us down when bad stuff happen? your right tho no one is positive anymore. like saying people in general are not positive/happy/whatever. depressing outlook that is.
Nupiyo 2 years ago
No, i don't talk down on people..bcuz i wouldn't want someone to do that to me. About being happy, joyful, at peace, etc...I've encountered many ppl (even Christians) who, when they go through hard times (relationship, finances, etc.) they get really frustrated, stressed out/feeling hopeless/ angry. I've also gone thru (& still am) going thru these things but I don't let it get me down bcuz God promised that I would & WILL have abundant life through Christ Jesus. that's all so my joy remains
misshyde051 2 years ago
Atheist means you don't believe in God so using the bible to prove your points doesn't work when you're speaking to atheists who DONT BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE. The bible means nothing to atheists. THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN ANY OF IT. That means that proving its existence by reading off random, meaningless passages in the bible is not going to persuade anyone but people who truly believe that it's the word of god. Btw, am I the only one who noticed that he compared Christians to six year olds....?
jesslynn132 2 years ago
To ALL who choose to excersize their First Amendment right...know that Happy are those who are attacked on account of righteousness: for the kingdom of heaven will be theirs.
AND although the people leaving these types of comments may not EVER comprehend that those comments are not offensive but forgiven for they have no knowledge of what they are doing. And they made division of his clothing among them by the decision of chance.
Here you go in BASIC ENGLISH so you all understand! :)
MSJNavarro77 2 years ago