Project M - DaShizWiz (Falco) vs Kage (Ganon) 2

[distortedflameingic]

is ganon FAST

[Lo0kuaz]

I love the new Ganondorf and his new potential. Although, if it was up to me, I wouldn't only attempt to make the game more like melee but I would also chance all character's moves that have never been useful. Like Ganondorf's neutral B attack, the Warlock Punch. Could you change that move into something more useful like for example the ball of darkness he would throw at Link in Ocarina of Time? It could be just like Lucario's and Samus's B move. Or make different in your own way.

[Phaiyte]

@Lo0kuaz A lot of Ganon is all about tech chasing. As in predicting where they're going to be after a knock down and being there to hit them hard. Warlock Punch is the perfect answer for that. They won't even have enough time to shield if you're doing it right.

[GoldenYoshiKing23]

Thats great brawl has been gay again-_- the only I want back is yoshi's cancel jump yo

[ViiTal0rGaN]

Is it possible to use project m under dolphin? If not will they work on one?

[igla]

Project M made Ganon look like Ganon. Brawl made Ganon look like the easter bunny

[WhatBadGod]

That Kage.

He's a warrior.

[SyonRyoken]

Is it just me or does this not look as exciting as melee? Id rather watch Dr. PP going on in melee. Not to knock the work done on this project; its just something seems off. Iono how to explain it.

[TheLostSabre]

Outdated video is outdated. ._. -___-

Vet Melee player or perceptive spectator can easily feel something's off. This is far more apparent in demo v1. The PM staff are working to iron out the issues so don't worry.

[hornedjolteon]

@TheLostSabre

"*NOTE: The gameplay in this video is severely outdated. See the latest videos on my channel for current gameplay*" Nobody reads the description anymore.

[TheLostSabre]

Most questions would be answer by simply reading just that. Sadly, most don't have the patience to do that.

-___-

[XxShadicxX]

@SyonRyoken You're watching a video that is over a year old. The game has improved tremendously since then.

[knakolo]

2:02 dat phantom hit

[ShortMindedTV]

kage is a beast lol!

[rodrigovegal]

i love project M finnale a good brawl

[dragonbutz]

Bitch slaped at the end. xD

[frickingfrickface]

Song Please?? :O

[ShfflSuckers]

Canada bitches.

Gotta love Kage.

[hussein335]

are u guys going to fix the edgehog? in melee if someone is recovering and someone else is hogging the edge and press R or L, the other person wont grab the ledge and they die, are u going to make it like that?

[allright715]

Still need to fix the volume of the high damage cries.

[Deboogs]

I don't see the point of Project M. Even movesets are reworked to play like Melee. Not just the general mechanics.

Just play Melee =/

[JCaesar007]

@Deboogs Yeah I'll go play ROB in Melee right now. Or maybe Snake, I dunno, hmm...

[Deboogs]

@JCaesar007 So it was worth making a hack of brawl for extra characters and stages?

[JCaesar007]

@Deboogs Yes, we all wanted a true sequel to Melee and now we finally have one.

[Deboogs]

@JCaesar007 Fair enough.

[cashmoney10000]

@JCaesar007 Sooo... a true sequal must be the exact same game but with a few extra characters?... Sooo what are your thoughts on MW3?

[TehFoamy]

@JCaesar007 And in this context, "a true sequel" basically means "the same damn game"?

What was wrong with Brawl+? Were people bitching because it wasn't Melee enough?

[jfp521]

@JCaesar007 no its not a true sequal to melee its a melee copy (almost) this is people who expected brawl to be like melee, its a different game i dont understand why people expected melee 2.0, look at ssb64 to melee, 2 different games with different mechanics, no disrespect to pm though,

[DayLaMike]

@jfp521 Actually Melee took everything 64 had and built off of it. It also fixed a lot of things in 64. Like the high hitstun was lowered and the L-cancelling was reduced from 100% to 50% but at the same time brought a lot more to the table. You can essentially call melee Smash Bros. 2.0. Brawl pretty much did away with all that in favor of "accessible" watered down gameplay and lackluster control. Brawl isn't Smash Bros. 3.0 like it should be it's just Brawl. Project M will be Smash Bros 3.0 :D

[fawfulmark2]

@DayLaMike I'm just hoping that the sequels don't generate enough of a shitstorm that the community feels they need to m(elee)od the games to death again.

[DayLaMike]

@fawfulmark2 Project M is the only "melee" mod everything is a brawl based mod. If the new SSB is good then their wont be mods out the wazoo.

[RicksSpine565]

@Deboogs You are a complete noob -_-'

[EpixAura]

What happened to the other videos of DaShizWiz? I know there were many others.

[JCaesar007]

@EpixAura They were all really painfully outdated, so I deleted them. I only left this one because it was the most popular.

[fuckerman157]

No itens?

[FACEMAN741]

im pretty sure i said "fuck Kage's a monster" like six times during this video

[captainchu]

2:20 insane DI likke 3 times

[wawahwario]

1:13 Captain Falcon's down smash

1:55 Captain Falcon's up smash

Added seamlessly, good buff!

[wawahwario]

Is it possible to thunderstorm like in regular Brawl with this Ganon?

Oh and can you guys buff his chain grabbing abilities? Like make his flame chokefaster and with longer rage maybe...

and to everyone else, the "high damage screams" don't sound stupid at all

[IYMsmasher]

@wawahwario thunther storming is even better in melee/ P:M, you just need predict your opponent

[monkeysoulz]

brawl sucks

[Zimx02]

The new 'high damage screams' sound so stupid.

[tkxl777]

Its good to see Ganon's badass ownage back in the game. It was such a shame to see Ganon at the bottom tier in Brawl.

[Zimx02]

So Ganon is back and Ike is now just a very inferior version of Ganon now?

[JCaesar007]

@Zimx02 Uh no, they're 2 different characters with completely different movesets, strengths, weaknesses, and styles.

[satsugekibukouken]

i don't know if its been fixed already, but the reflector sound is kinda awkward

it sounds like when you pick up an item sound

[gnahzdivad]

Watching a large dark pigmented skin man fisting a space bird is making me excited. God, look what the smash community has done to me.

[DanielxthexSeraph]

Oh my god Ganon gets his second jump back after down b

Project M for prez

[rebelian7]

this isn't a melee clone, it's what brawl should've been :)

[AceJayz]

Awsm ganon doesnt run like he has to take shit anymore(constipated).

[KokoroNoSama]

wow that makes L cancelling even cooler :D

[silentasasin93]

you need to change falco's taunt (any of them it doesnt matter) to add DIEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! in it...

[darkrainone]

the crowd sounds so gay

brawl

[rhrp25]

i want play P.M : (

[thelordfox2]

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wanne play ittttttttttt!!!! Waiiiiiiiiiiiii Good Fkng Game.... I guess Marth Wont be the best in this One Muajajajaja...

[jamb1987]

@thelordfox2

lol, marth is not the best in any smash game... He is the 5th in melee and the 6th in brawl. Still, I don't think that fox nor metanight are going to be the best in this one xD

[thelordfox2]

@jamb1987 well u gotta tell tht to M2K on melee cuz he has prove it lol... Always a marth wins the tourney lol

[jamb1987]

@thelordfox2

M2k is awesome but he haven't win any important melee tournament like in a year or more... mango, a jigglypuff player, is the best right now, followed by hungrybox (another jiggly), armada (a peach player from europe) and amsah (sheik player from europe) and m2k.. even tho, fox is top tier, then falco, jigglypuff, sheik and marth.. And I don't watch many brawl tourneys but I think any marth player have won an important tourney.. Maybe Mr. R .. but I dunno.

[jamb1987]

@thelordfox2

And tier list are made based in tourneys results.

[SuperLearningCenter]

lol 58 isnt imported huh

[Samuraishell]

I liked how Falco could kick his reflector in brawl. Why did you get rid of it?

[jamb1987]

@Samuraishell

probably because his melee metagame is build in great part arround it =/.

[Apotheosis275]

@Samuraishell because no one else did

[meleefreak9001]

@thesteezyone

It's modded brawl, they made it so it's like melee.

[Poneglyph]

0:57

Ganondorf doesn't look like an idiot while running anymore. yay

[RadicallyDreaming]

I noticed Ganon has his old running animation. Very nice.

[lSmasherRazorl]

Did it only take them one day to adapt to the different L Cancel timing? Wow they're pros for a reason I guess.

[nifanatic]

...Holy sh*t.

A Brawl match that got a KO within the first MINUTE?

Good sirs, I am VERY much NOT disappoint.

[SushiBrawl]

This looks pretty good. Can't wait until it comes out.

[hypershadow1910]

Canada is 3rd Tier....Too good,Kage.Too Good.

[TheSteeezyOne]

i donnt wanna sound like a noob lol but i havent played brawl in over 7 months ann d i never knew there wass a wavedash now .

[CaptainMerkz]

lol yeah when ganon died it sounded like an old man getting punched in the stomach xD

[Hornilope]

wow right now this looks even faster then melee, its like its slightly sped up

[skaterbaj]

this is sick 

[Me9apup]

if kage is beating shiz, that aint melee

[MrKingFunk]

@Me9apup Watch the other games. =D

[hussein335]

hopefully melee players will move on to this once its finished and like melee

[liruzt]

played project m, was awesome, but melee sounds is a must, or else i will always think brawl, + the hitsounds sound so stupid in brawl

[smk2]

@liruzt There will be an optional Melee SFX pack for people like you to download, don't worry.

[Zitox2010]

i dont think that this is shiz...

[JCaesar007]

@Zitox2010 You'd be wrong then. There were at least a dozen people watching this live at Apex who could confirm. Not to mention Shiz himself.

[Zitox2010]

@JCaesar007 just saying.. kuz kage got RAPED by shiz at melee apex.. in the first matches..

[smk2]

@Zitox2010 Watch the other Kage vs Shiz matches on this channel, this is only ONE match son.

[Zitox2010]

@smk2 watch all matches by shiz vs kage in apex kid.. then say me if shiz didnt rape him..

[smk2]

@Zitox2010 I saw it, does it matter? Shiz beat him in other matches in this too, are you saying Shiz can't ever lose to Kage even once? =\

[Zitox2010]

@smk2 just sayin' kuz shiz raped kage in all matches at apex :)

[Gallanthor]

@JCaesar007 Yup very wrong, I was playing Dashizwiz in person, I feel so special. =) He's so cool!

-Kage

[supersmash43]

@JCaesar007 1:42-1:44 so I am guessing the aerial Wizard's Foot restores Ganon's mid air jump again?? That's great because without that ability Ganon wouldn't have been able to recovery in that situation.

[xAfterDawnx]

@Zitox2010 why wouldn't this be shiz, did you even watch the other videos from the same uploader? you're retarded

[AeonsOfFrost]

@Zitox2010 I was there watching the set in person. It was Shiz. If you still don't believe it, look at one of the other videos where Shiz wins.

[WhatTheFlapjack]

2:21 - Nice hitbox... >_>

[metaXzero]

@WhatTheFlapjack

If you look closely enough, he is actually hitting Falco.

[cobaltsaberfire]

After playing Project M, I have to say it feels really awkward. D:

Also, are there any videos of people using Marth?

[Bloodstomp]

Is there still waving out of shield? If so I am 100% sold on Project: M.

[ghost245353]

Kage spanking DaShizWiz? Testing confirmed

He may not be American, but Kage is my hero :O

[guybuddyson]

@ghost245353 ah, but he is american! the french, northern tundra of america!

[nicaboy68]

im definatly gonna be playing this along side melee. Its a nice refreshing feel out side of melee. basicaly what brawl should have been lol

[Zalozis]

Hooray! Ganon still has Sparta Kick :D

Now we can still Smash in hell.

[Devandevande]

They've been working work, looks alot less choppy than the older vids...i could play this.

[Link500ACS]

@_@ umm...no offense to da p:m guys buuuut....

maaaaaaaaaaybe you should leave the brawl voice files for characters alone....or use the melee ones entirely.....buuut.....when falco killed ganon dat one time and i heard his "uuuughhhhh" it made me cringe....it doesn't sound right at all....leave the VAing to the pros guys....that goes for those that edited fox's voice as well in a PM match i saw....IDK if they were using some of japan foxs voice or what....but it didn't sound right *

[Link500ACS]

*right mixed with the normal voice.

as far as gameplay goes, just keeps getting better and better.

but....please....leave the Voice acting to the professionals guys @_@.

[JCaesar007]

@Link500ACS lolwut? Those death screams are all part of Brawl. We didn't record anything, just enabled them.

[Link500ACS]

@JCaesar007 :S lollwut? you mean those annoying ear bleeding screams were actually part of brawls code...? @_@ dear god....they don't even sound REMOTELY similar to the characters voices...i'ma dead serious heree, taht ganon scream sounds NOTHING like him....and it only made me cringe eacch time i heard it.

DON'T leave those in the game....X_X they sound absolutly horrible, no wonder nintendo left em out, i'm serious guys, those screams sound NOTHING like the characters they're from.

[metaXzero]

@Link500ACS

I don't agree. It sounds just like Ganny and Falco. As far as I see, it's nice to have those screams back then that ackward silence Brawl gave us.

All they need to do is tone it down in volume.

[OmegaFujin]

@Link500ACS It sounds exactly like Ganon would sound if he screamed... Proof? It's the same VA.

[Link500ACS]

@OmegaFujin i'ma sorry fujin.........but it just honestly doesn't sound right e_e even if its the same VA.....it sounds really really really off compared to the rest of his voice...I don't think even turning it down in volume a bit is gonna change it...

i'm pretty sure nintendo left em all out cuz of that e-e really...the way it sounds compared to the rest of them just really sounds out of place.

[marakah]

@Link500ACS

I actually kinda liked the voices

[metaXzero]

@Link500ACS

WTF man? No one is putting their own voices into game. That's dumb.

Those voice files are IN the game FROM the game. For whatever reason, Brawl's creator's decided not to use the traditional "loud scream" when a character is hit with a strong attack at a high percentage (it was done in 64 and Melee). But they programmed it in and just left it inaccessible to non-hackers. P:M's creator's just re-enabled it since most liked that feature of Smash 64 and Melee.

[hussein335]

PROJECT M TOP TIER, 1:GANON, 2:FALCO

[BulletKing009]

Lol dude falco is going to be so OP on this stage once people get use to comboing here

[fpsanth]

sexy

[xKaru92]

Good match, great job guys!

And lmao at ganon's scream of pain, is there any way to make them not so loud? (For all characters, because it doesn't really sound good when it happens)

[guybuddyson]

@xKaru92 second this. they're pretty awesome but shouldn't be at a high enough volume to trump everything else you hear.

[manLiMarth]

No kidding, this is pretty sick. GEE GEE M guys. Y'all are capturing interest.

[LeaderOfTheRedNinjas]

wow good shit project m people, this actually looks quite like melee

It's still not as fluid or smooth, but good work on what you have done

[StarlingFireBall]

Kage was already doing all the shit like the tech chasing with the new sideB. The instinct of a top player...

[SoraHyuuga01]

ah that's much more like the kage we know and love. 

[5iveRP]

YESSSSSS

[Koalateeh]

this has gotta be the best p:m match uploaded thus far.

[JCaesar007]

@Koalateeh Completely agreed. This match was sick. There was a pretty nice-sized crowd watching it too, getting lots of oooohs and aaaaahs.

[AMKalmar]

Ganon is much more reasonably sized now.

[WindOwl]

@AMKalmar Actually, all characters were recently reduced to 94% of their original Brawl size.

[JFLikesPie]

@WindOwl 94%? That's not too much of a change. What's the point of that small change?

[WindOwl]

@JFLikesPie What do you mean what's the point?

The difference is quite apparent in my opinion.

[JFLikesPie]

@WindOwl Okay...? That still didn't answer my question.

[Tiajuan]

@JFLikesPie The stages were shrunk for the most part and the characters were made unusually big in Brawl for the most part. So the resizing is mostly making things look less retarded more or less.

[guybuddyson]

@Tiajuan makes humongous chars like DDD and Bowser more viable too!

[smk2]

@JFLikesPie The main reason for doing it is because stages were crowded with leaving the Brawl characters at their current size. Even teams or FFAs felt way too crowded and not enough space to move around in before running into an enemy. It's for gameplay reasons, not cosmetic.

[JFLikesPie]

@smk2 That makes sense; I figured from the start that it was for gameplay, not aesthetics, I just didn't think that such a small reduction in size could make a big difference.

[WindOwl]

@JFLikesPie Melee characters were much smaller than Brawl characters relative to stage size.