Jainism and Buddhism: A Comparative Study

[simysimss]

very interesting thanks

[rupesh17383]

friends the only reason for jainism n buddhism origination is society was full of differentiation,exploitation and inequality bcoz of brahmin priests.in every yajna these priests sacrificed cows,in d name of gods.even kings at that time called them fr special rituals fr which they use to pay a lot.varna system was also practised in those days,both religions denied god,brahmanism,inequality in society,and hinsa...

[bardiaswapnil]

hindus and jains hve a different views on certain pts.hindus believe 'bhagwan' and 'devta' to be same. jains believe bhagwan to be one who has sacrificed n renounced ol worldly pleasures n greedful emotions. n devta's are the one who hve attained a higher state den humans coz of der selfless acts but dey still njoy da heavenly pleasures eg. dey r clad in ol kinds of jewels. tirthankar's are bhagwan. dey are enlightened ones, devta's arent. n jains do believe n worship sme hindu gods n godess.

[bardiaswapnil]

5) dey nevr cook der food. dey collect der food as bhiksha or gochari( alms). dey drink only distilled water which free from ol germs. dey dont evn drink water after sunset.6) dey have no love for belongings. dey cannot hve clothes n accessories more den da specified limit in da scriptures. dey have to be above greed.7) dey dont get into conversion business( though sad dat sme hve tried it). dey r not allowed to do so. dey hve to preach on humanity, intergrity, right n peaceful conduct, sacrific

[opensourcebuddhism]

@bardiaswapnil Well baridaswapnil, I agree with you on every point. The Jains I tell my class, are the "marines" while the Buddhists, the "navy" ( see next coment) and the Hindus the "army"among the family of Indian religions. In the sense of toughness to ahmisa or "non-harming". Buddha borrowed a LOT from the Jain tradition. It is all that you mention. But I am a humble Vajrayana Buddhist. For us, there is no corruption in "corruption." Eat, drink and be merry!

[opensourcebuddhism]

@bardiaswapnil Just to continue, the Buddhists are the "Navy" in the sense the lob info missiles from the coast, and are a bit more aloof. Why is it important who is the oldest? Because history demonstrates the Hindu Vaishnava religion is an import from sunny central Asia (Aryans the Kurgan hyposthesis).

[bardiaswapnil]

Does it mke sense in fightin who ws da oldest. the thing is which one strives more to peace n moksha. jains hve a strict adherence to non-violence (direct n indirect). lemme give an xample of things jain monks do.. dey practise non-violence to da highest standrds. 1) dey are strict vegetarians, dey dont evn eat vegetables whose harvest mite be violent to insects n ol. 2) they never eat after sunset. 3) they nevr use vehicles, as any organism mite die under da vehicle. 4)dey nvr preach violence

[opensourcebuddhism]

@bardiaswapnil They did invade and please read the erudite Jain scholars intense reading of the Vedas. The Jains "invented" ahimsa and founded the Indus Valley civ., in my opinion. Good job Jains! Maybe I will evolve to your level or your bhikshus to mine (as we Buddhist tantrins think!)

[Exiro]

It's either 'have in common' or 'share'.

[bass109]

repent to Jesus christ for his kingdom comes, repent to Jesus because your loved! repent all you who want to be with Jesus christ! repent for all people

[ukgreaterlondon]

I AM JAINIST

[akalchhe]

Jainism is the oldest reigion.hinduism is an ofshoot The firdst tirthankar of Jains is Rushabh who is also the first avtatar of god for the hindus

[richardhaw]

peace be with you all. Jains,Buddhists or otherwise

[BeamSurfer]

Upanishads is a very interesting peace of text, it reveals the deep dark secrets.... no doubt that Buddhism and Jainism come from the Shramana tradition and that there's a sect in Hinduism which treats everyone as ONE god, Equal, hence in other case Pantheism, Spinoza's which is found deeply upon the Upanishads and the Shramana

[1980theone]

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[1980theone]

the static one is a pure blister and the moving one is an outer innerness. but the blister is fake.  its the root on the brain.

[cleaningsfun]

I find it interesting that Jainism and Buddhism are not only so closely related but are also so relevant in todays world. Both don't meddle in Gods or conversion. They're are both tolerant and pacifist.

However I also find it interesting that Buddhism has spread and Jainism hasn't. I think Buddhism and its middle path its its true helper.

I think both of these religions are wonderful and should be celebrated. Too bad Christianity and Islam are so insular in comparision

[titikiwi0105]

how did they challenge the authority of the brahmin ?

[Hikikomorijanai]

Buddhism is as peaceful as any religion. In words that is. In Birma, Buddhist monks are opressing people together with army. So was in Tibet, before communists liberated Tibetan People. In Japan, Zen Buddhism was a tool for war propaganda. There is no such thing as peacefull religion.

[Mariet31]

@Hikikomorijanai

"peaceful as any religion"

As the Islam? Are you crazy?

[DreamsofMajesty]

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[Teller3448]

If there is no soul or atman...what is it thats becomes liberated?

[opensourcebuddhism]

@Teller3448 To answer your question, If there is no soul or atman...what is it thats becomes liberated? Buddhists respond differently, but my response is that of the Madhyamika: as the delusion of self disspates through meditation and introspection, one realizes the fictional quality of mundane existence and the consciousness sees inter-relationship leads to compassion for all beings. The "snuffing" or "nirvana" of the self is its bliss. There is no material quality of the consciousness.

[Teller3448]

@opensourcebuddhism What is it that has this delusion of Self? What realizes the fictional quality of mundane existence? What has compassion for all beings?

[opensourcebuddhism]

@Teller3448 the consciousness has the delusion of self and compassion for all...and this is a different idea than "jiva" or "atman". Why? Buddhists assert the consciousness is ever changing and evolving, not static and merely covered by karmic particles as Jains will tell you. Jains and Hindus agree on this: a permanent, inherently blissful life force. For Buddhists, this life force is always on the move, never static.

[Teller3448]

@opensourcebuddhism So your 'consciousness' has qualities then...delusion, bliss, compassion, intelligence...it is not clear and empty like space.

What is the Pali word for this consciousness? Or did it enter the lexicon later as an adaptation from Hindu traditions?

What is the difference between a 'moving' consciousnes and a 'changing' consciousness?

[geetajain55]

@opensourcebuddhism Kindly do your home work again. This comparasion is between Lord Mahavira and Lord Buddha, but not between Jainism and Buddhism. Lord Buddha founded the faith/ religion of Buddhism while Lord Mahavira was the 24th 'TEERTHANKAR .Bhagwan Aadi Nath being the first. (a TEERTHANKAR is a person who attains 'godhood' by his Karma, tapsya

It is unfortunate that most non-jains associate Jaism to Bhagwan Mahavira only. And In India most people take Jains and Buddhs to be Hindues only

[geetajain55]

@opensourcebuddhism your efforts are appreciated.

[SuperJohnnyuk]

@opensourcebuddhism wrong... please quote me your evidence? Which doctrine are you quoting from?

The devi mahatymama, mahabarat both talk of the static and dynamic aspects of consciousness - like an atomic core surrounded by an electron in perpetual, dynamic movement. Shakti is that perceivable form of consciousness that remains dynamic.. hence my name for her is nirvanni... the cause (path) of enlightenment

[AZ0960036]

@opensourcebuddhism Teller is right. Buddhism has a seemingly poor metaphysical system in the western eye. My professor taught us that no-self is true self. This is basically the same concept of Christ who said if one wished to find himself, he'd have to lose himself. I see it as losing any identification with anything in the world.. Christians and western thinkers, realize that the soul is the conscious self.

If there were no true selves, there would be no point in liberation.

[SuperJohnnyuk]

@opensourcebuddhism ps i have just returned from mount kailash and met quite a few learnered lamas, hindus and jains and often engaged in deep dialogue about these ancient religions. As stated earlier, satvic hindu practises never ordained the sacrificial killing of animals... please qoute me which veda, verse and text states that god demands blood sacrifice - in fact in the devi mahatymam, chandika, or the goddess that tears apart thought and destroys the ego never mentions such acts.

[SuperJohnnyuk]

@Teller3448 ones consciousness,,, hence the lord Buddha got pissed with the ppl of the time being so besotted with material gains as the motivating factor for devotion and bhakti. He explained what i believe was that life is full of suffering, provided a paradigm to end this suffering caused by the illusion of one's self, or ego. Hence the slaying of the ego is the very goal of all 3 religions have in common.

[Teller3448]

@SuperJohnnyuk

What is it that is conscious?

[Abyss1]

that reading was terrible i had to cut it off after 1:34 it was making me highly disinterested in continuing

[ar4216]

I had a black snake in my house today. The dog was barking at it and it was behind something. I tried to get it out in the open, hoping it would go out a door I had open. It crawled under something and I threw water on it to flush it out. It shot out quickly and scared me, although it was not poisonous and not that big. I grabbed a pole and aimed for it's head and screamed "Die you motherfucker!". I drew blood. I feel so bad. I want to be non-violent. Is there anything I can do to atone for this

[sahajrob]

Yet Im not sure where you get the random accumulation of pieces idea.

Buddha delineated very clearly how we create our own existence and suffering.

Conditioned existence vs. 'eternal unchanging soul'

Many consider Buddhism to be nihilistic, I disagree that your reason fir it is 'the' reason though. More of it's attitude towards earthly life, etc.

[sahajrob]

thanks 4 making this video, nice 10 min primer 4YT

at 9:10 however ~its oversimplified on the verge of missing the point.

Buddha was always very careful to neither affirm or deny the existence of soul.

My read on this, because he was so precise and sought to strip other's delusional thinking, that he avoiding answering this as to not confirm others misconceptions. So no soul in the sense of not as propounded by the Brahmins of the day. Yet he refused to say also that there was no soul.

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[opensourcebuddhism]

well, buddha was interested in what could be observed...the finitude or infinitude of the universe cannot be observed, but scholars may observe these historical/social items. people so often think that buddhism deals only with the ultimate level of reality when in fact, it is concerned with both levels.

[greatProphet1]

@opensourcebuddhism

Rishavnath is the foundar of Nathsects the mahavir is the last tirthankar ,From the point "Astik"Which confirmed the thought of paramatma.The enlightened not attained through ur idiotic Path of Abrahamic religion.When the jains confront Sankaracarya they said that its sect of Sanatan dharma,Which derived from the Sankhya Philosophy.So Sanatan dharma is oldest of all religion.

[greatProphet1]

@opensourcebuddhism

Take the last word of one of the missionary Maxmular in his death bed said Hinduism may be 15000 yrs old but jesus is only truth.That means he actually belived in lie that hinduism not before 2000 b.c.

[nipunjain999]

please read in reserve way

[nipunjain999]

1.8) Thus the influence of Sramanic culture, on the Aryans is unquestionable. They have drawn many ideas from the Sramanic religious literature . Since Mention of Jainism in oldest books of vedic makes clear even before Vedas were composed Jainism existed as an Individual religion & has its own individuality.

[nipunjain999]

1.7) The Arhant heritage( jainism/ Shraman Culture) is confirmed by the writings in Srimad Bhagwad, Padmapuran, Vishnupuran, Skandapuran and Shivpuran, Naradpuran, Manusmriti and other religious book. In these books there are lucid descriptions on the birth of Jainism. As a matter of fact, the standard of philosophy, which the Arhat religion commands, is clearly manifested, albeit some changes, in the Vedas, Upanishads, Mahabharat and the Puranas.

[nipunjain999]

1.6) Sanskrit verse from Agnipuran

Rishabh was born to Marudevi. Bharat was born to Rishabh.

Bharat (India arose from Bharat and Sumati arose from Bharat.) Hence India got its original name Bharat from Son of First Tirthankar.

[greatProphet1]

@nipunjain999

Idiot bharat come from the name of the son of dushmanta and shakuntala.The puru vansha is the decender of bharat.

[nipunjain999]

1.5) from Nagpuran

The fruit that can be attained by visiting the sixty eight holy places, can be attained by meditating on Lord Adinath. (Lord Adinath is the other name of Rishabhdev)

The word Arhan ( Tirthankars) begins with (a) and ends with (ha).Above and below it has has the crescent moon shaped curves with Nadbindhus (dots or drops of sound). Oh Goddess! This word signifies the supreme truth. Those who realise this truth cut off the bondage of the sansar and attain moksha (salvation).

[nipunjain999]

1.4) Sanskrit verse from Skandpuran

Man will not have punarvajanma (he will be free from the cycle of birth and death ) if he touches Shatrunjay Tirth; if he bows to Girnar; and if he bathes in Gajapandkund. All meditate upon Maharishi(sage) Rishabhdev , who has an ideal form ; who inspires enthusiasm in men; who is a pure soul having attained kevaljnyan(supreme knowledge); who is spotless and formless.

[nipunjain999]

1.3) Sanskrit verse from Prabhaspuran

Lord Neminath (22nd Tirthankar , First Cousin of Lord Krishna) abides on Raivatadri (Girnar Mountain-Gujarat) and Lord Adinath abides on Vimalachal (Shatrunjay- Siddhagiri- Palitana-Gujarat). These mountains enable people to pursue the path of Moksha since the ashrams of great Rishis (sages) were located there.

[nipunjain999]

1.2) Sanskrit verse from Brahmandpuran

Nabhiraja and Marudevi gave birth to a son named Rishabhdev, the greatest of Kshatriyas and the first ancestor of all Kshatriyas. Mahadev Rishabhdev ( First Tirthankar) was born to Nabhiraja and Marudevi, in the Ikshvaku dynasty( first ancestor of Ayodhya ) ; assumed the ten kinds of Dharma; and after attaining Kevaljnan (the supreme knowledge) disseminated it.

[nipunjain999]

1.1) Sanskrit verse from Shivpuran

Lord Rishabhdev Jineshwar ( First Tirthankar) the omniscient and the all- pervasive incarnated himself on the magnificent Kailas (Ashtapad Mountain).

[nipunjain999]

1) Evidence in support of the theory that Jain Dharma is an ancient religion & even older than Vedic-Hinduism: The Jain Dharma existed even before the emergence of the Vedas and the Puranas which are said to be ancient. This point is proved by what is said in the following quotes from Oldest Hindu Holy books that jainism existed before vedas were composed.

[CanadianHindu]

u didn't get wat I meant...let me be clear n straight in order to let u understand that HINDUISM is the oldest religion....it was before other civilization didn't even exist...bt hindus were existed,so ur excuse that no one was there to write is baseless and wrong....n m surprised wen u commented dat budhhists laugh at hinuduism..they r not budhhists I guess coz the budhhists I've come across do really respect hinduism and v hindus also have the same feeling for u..

[opensourcebuddhism]

Well...you just have no evidence. Tell me your evidence. Nothing written down, then it is just your belief. Jews think they have the oldest religion. They have more evidence for ancientness than Hindus...but not more than Jains have. I think the jains are older than the Jews, so far as straight lineage/history is concerned. No, Buddhists don't "laugh" at Hindus, but they do regret the Hindu emphasis on devotion...as less than rational. Sorry!

[greatProphet1]

@opensourcebuddhism

The evidence wat u mean by evidence?

Let take an evidence ,the Mahenjodoro civilisation where the ideal of shiva find .In the turkey the finding of "coin" which offering prayer to Indra and Mitra.Lots of more example.But let give me one example of Abrahamic religion found before 1000b.c.

[SuperJohnnyuk]

@opensourcebuddhism you are very misinformed. Please stop using wikipedia as a source of reference on paradigms of buddhism and jainism. These are both Shamanism derivatives, ascetics who evovled a different way of thinking from others in vedic doctrine at that point of time. Also, you have to remember jainism do strongly believe in the soul theory. The buddhist consciousness is akin to the brahmanic non-dualistic soul theory.. the evidence is from the devi-mahatymam

[SuperJohnnyuk]

the indus valley civilisation has provided archaeological evidence of the ancientness of hinduism.. the pasupati seal being one example.. please provide example of judaism that predates the indus valley civilisation. Karma, Jnana, Samsara, Moksa and Ahimsa where indeed sramanic doctrines, but taken by acetic from what is now hinduism, the delineation should be carefully noted. Also, vajrayana and mahayana tantric practises also include animal sacrifices,,, i know as i have just come back from

[CanadianHindu]

this is not true at all...these researches r tempered....hinduism n hindu culture can be taced all the way back when even other civilizations weren't even existed...jainism n budhhism r deprived from it...these two religions r the branches of sanatan dharma,hinduism....navakar mantra,jains use to recite is originally hindu mantra...they stole it from us n claimed it their mantra..n datz absolutely rubbish...

[opensourcebuddhism]

I agree with the guy who posted the comment below: Jainism is the most ancient of the three biggies. Anyway, think of the logic behind your assertion Hinduism existed before civilization. How would we know about it if there was no one to write about it? All religions go back to our Kenyan ancestors beliefs...but how will you ever discern the "Hindu" elements of a religion people couldn't write about? They are all in this sense, equally ancient.

[raz357]

I would guess that the Buddha might get a laugh from your conversation. Which religion is the oldest has no bearing on this moment.

Good vid.

[nipunjain999]

Ancient history of India reveals that there were three major religions

in India. They were Brahaminism, Buddhism and Jainism (Nirgranthas).

Latest research and excavation at Mohenjodaro and Harappa has shown that

Jainism existed before five thousands year ago, even though Jains

believe it to be eternal.

[nipunjain999]

........it is pertinent to note that this feature is not present in other religious minorities in India.

Source: Dr. Vilas Sangave (2001) In : Facets of Jainology: Selected Research Papers on Jain Society, Religion, and Culture . Popular Prakashan: Mumbai ISBN 8171548393

[nipunjain999]

The jain communities is one of the very ancient communities of India. The existence of the Jain religion can not only be traced to the vedic period but even to the Indus valley period of the Indian History. The names of Jain Tirthankars are mentioned in the Vedas and there is evidence to show that the Indus valley people must be worshipping Rishabhdeva the first Tirthankar of the Jains along with the other deities. Thus Hoary antiquity is a special feature of the Jain community and ........

[opensourcebuddhism]

well....as a matter of fact, we agree with you on this. Jains are a very ancient culture.

[rahulguptajainism]

The name of India Bharat comes from the name of Emperor Bharata, a Jain king, first universal monarch (Chakravati) and son of First Jain Tirthankara Rishabha. In Visnu Purana (2,1,31), Vayu Purana, (33,52), Linga Purana (1,47,23), Brahmanda Purana (14,5,62), Agni Purana (107,11-12), and Skanda Purana (37,57) it is clearly stated that this country is known as Bharatavarsa after Bharata, son of the mighty ascetic Rsabha.

[opensourcebuddhism]

Sir!

You deeply inform me - thanks for the clarification. I have associated Bharat with the Indo-European / Aryan invasion folks given the Bahubali story - I really thought Bharata desha from the Vedas somehow referred to this man. Thank you for informing me...I will pass it on to a future student to clarify in a future documentary.

[greatProphet1]

@rahulguptajainism

2nd idiot came,

abhūtir eṣā kas tyajyāj jīvañ jīvantam ātmajam

śākuntalaṃ mahātmānaṃ dauḥṣantiṃ bhara paurava

bhartavyo 'yaṃ tvayā yasmād asmākaṃ vacanād api

tasmād bhavatv ayaṃ nāmnā bharato nāma te sutaḥ

Therefore, O thou of Puru's race, cherish thy high-souled son born of Sakuntala

and because this child is to be cherished by thee even at our word,

therefore shall this thy son be known by the name of Bharata (the cherished).

[greatProphet1]

In his youth Bharata became the king. Young Bharata conquered and ruled the entire continent of India, from sea to Himalaya. His empire was named Bharatavarsha, the land of Bharata. He ruled virtuously and earned great fame. He was known by the titles of "Chakravarti" (emperor) and "Sarvabhauma" (Sanskrit: सार्वभौमः). He performed many sacrifices and Kanva was the chief priest at those sacrifices.

[nipunjain999]

Upanishads and classical Hinduism has been deeply influenced by Jainism Often Hindutva bigots claim that Jainism and Buddhism are offshoots of Hinduism..This is the biggest false hood. Jainism and Buddhism arose from the ancient Sramana tradition that had links with Indus Valley Civilisation.

[sindhuhindu]

Well Said !!! THis is truth but Hinduism can't accept due to Ego problem they not accept there Ignorance about Sramana Tradition for Jainism & Buddhism

[satyamshahsatyam]

agree......

[opensourcebuddhism]

Thank you sir,

for corroborating my own hunches. I agree. And I am astonished at some characterizations of Jains in channel comments by Hindus. Almost like European stereotypes of Jews! Eerie parallel characters, the Jains and the Jews

[sahajrob]

@nipunjain999 many consider Buddhism as an offshoot of Hinduism because Buddha himself was raised as a Hindu, just as Jesus was a Jew. Its the context in which he lived. He went on to reject every doctrine including the Sramana of his day, although I agree with you he left a body of work more consistent with Sramanic traditions. I know less of Jains, although in Buddhism, and after his enlightenment, GB became aware of the endless succession of Buddhas in infinite world systems,

[sahajrob]

@nipunjain999 even Christianity has many parallels/commonalities with many ancient religions. So bigotry is not likely true although truly it exists in some minds. Just as there is argument over exactly where Buddha was born. Ultimately unimportant questions compared to the philosophies, which are timeless.

[greatProphet1]

@nipunjain999

Is buddha hindu?Is Mahavir Hindu?

Ans . yes.

Then find which is old.Idiotic thought come with enlighted lie.

[thescorpionking2020]

@nipunjain999 no dude ur wrong the indus valley civilisation was nt shramana,it followed an early form of hinduism evidence of shiva worship and various other hindu gods hav been found,it ws hindu and morever in jain texts the first jain tiranthakar is said to be a kshatriya,how can they be kshatriya if hinduism did nt exist at the point of time,thr was no such thing as hinduism when jainism and buddhism came up,hinduism is a mixture of buddhism,jainism and the ancient vedic religion

[thescorpionking2020]

@nipunjain999 buddhism and jainism are offshoots of the historical vedic religion wich was a predecessor of hinduism,it ws a different religion,the shramana tradition was opposed to the vedas and various other things tht the historical vedic religion said but it did took concepts lik reincarnation,karma,samsara,no­n violence from it but rejected animal sacrifice,caste system and some other things tht it considered unworthy of following

[shwetal56]

@nipunjain999 Thats so correct.. unfortunately there are wrong notions abt Jainism's origins.. And since it is not preached as much as other religions, ppl still do not knwo much abt it..

[nipunjain999]

Sramanas were pre-aryan and pre-vedic renouncers who propounded the doctrines of Karma, Jnana, Samsara, Moksa and Ahimsa as against the barbaric animal sacrifices of Vedics. Ultimately the ritualistic vedism adopted all the sramana concepts and gave way to the Upanishads.

[sindhuhindu]

Yeah,,,

[greatProphet1]

@nipunjain999

The word Sramans come to exist after creation of classical Sanskrit,not before 100b.c.The language of India proved that all the north Indian language come from vedic language,Read the history of language.Sanskrit śramaṇa श्रमण, Pāli samaṇa.

Q.1.-Is pali created before vedic language?

[CanadianHindu]

the major differnece between budhhists n jains r that the budhhist doesn't lick hindu's feet to save their ass like jains.........they live independently...not like jains who eat n spit in the same dish....and budhhists don't talk dirty bout hinduism...jains r known for that...yet in riots they claim themselves to be hindu to save thier fucking ass....jains r betrayers n backstabbers...

[opensourcebuddhism]

actually,

bigoted though it is, my world wide audience always intrigues and astounds me. buddhists laugh at hindus a bit. Jains have a right to complain about Hinduism. The Vishnu traditions point to invasion long ago, of these peaceful yet productive and resourceful people. Your comments do not demonstrate ahimsa, the Jain trademark

[opensourcebuddhism]

no, you hindus always want to claim everybody, which is much better than the abrahamic religions' exclusivism, but still, it gets tiresome. fyi, the indus valley civilization predates the aryan invasion by some thousand years. the jain tradition claims to go back to that and i believe them. the whole non-harming ahimsa ethic along with yoga and ayurveda and on and on, stems from that ancient culture, from only four seats of ancient civ. hinduism - see the krishna/arjuna -exchange is martial.

[KriztofferKriztenzen]

@CanadianHindu The indians should take back Pakistan and convert all the pakistanis to Hinduism, Jainism, Sikhism or Buddhism,

[KriztofferKriztenzen]

Man, I love Buddhism

[opensourcebuddhism]

indeed...it is my life!

[fuzzywzhe]

I know a lot of Buddhists, and not of them is vegetarian.

Buddhist preaches non violence, but they certainly haven't avoided war.

Jainism has never had wars, or genocide though.

Then again, either is better than Western religion which is replete with violence, genocide, and murder. Still, I think the Jains seems to have very good religion and I very much respect their abhorrence of either direct, and especially indirect violence.

[meysheyankel]

Wow, you know a strange sample of Buddhists. At least 50% of the many American Buddhists I know are veggies--of course the Jains are more consistent on this issue.

[fuzzywzhe]

Most of the Buddhists I know, are Chinese, which isn't surprising since most Buddhists are Asian.

[KriztofferKriztenzen]

@ fuzzywzhe It is many american celebrities who are buddhists too.

[fuzzywzhe]

american celebrities...

Um.

I can't really attest to their sincerity about anything, since basically, their entire job is to market themselves to the public, to make money.

In any case, I do not think they are representative, of the religion. I don't think they are representative of anything, honestly.

[KriztofferKriztenzen]

True

[meysheyankel]

Well, you know that Chinese Buddhist monks and nuns are strict vegetarians. And observant Chinese Buddhist laypeople do fast (not eat meat/fish) on the new and full moon days and other special religious occasions. There are about half-million American "convert" Buddhists, very few who are celebrities, and I think as sincere about their religion as anyone else.

[tincoster]

Thank you very much for this invaluable information.

[gujjubakwas]

looks like youtube does not align the replies to comment properly..thebelow comment are not for you the one who posted this video

[gujjubakwas]

nice concise presentation. althought the prounounciation could have been better but i dont blame you for that. also there is a lot of discussion among buddhist people about whether a meat/animal killed by other can be eatern or not. in jains it is strictly no no..but in budhism it is still being discussed/debated. although i know a lot of budhist people who do not eat meat even killed by somebody else. no matter what the religion may be it always preaches good things...Peace for both religion

[attilaclark]

As Buddhist I believe the meditative practice is more important than going around avoiding hurting insects...If you're engaged in a meditative practice ..you're not going to be hurting anyone. The Jain are brothers and sisters to Buddhist it's just they got obcessively concerned about things instead of meditation.

[gujjubakwas]

you do not have proper knowledge of buddhism or jainism. i have buddhist friends who make sure they dont kill animals. for a non-violent there is not much difference between killing a man or killing an animal. so please keep your views to yourself brother..and dont generalize them...Peace and respect for both religion

[LeHuyAnh]

Naturally! I had to give you a thumbs up to balance out a couple of insecure people who had given your comment a thumbs down.

[maramag117]

thank you this will help me answer my test tommorow.

[purphanz]

its always the mid-life crisis that brings enlightenment

[peewrtj]

why would you say that?

[opensourcebuddhism]

but...no self doctrine is not jain...it is Buddha's main point.

[GBJ83]

look up anekantveda

[TJSKULL52]

uncomplete information about jainism

even buddhism is inherited from jainism

[opensourcebuddhism]

buddha was a master synthesizer - borrowed from all, but he is unique. definitely borrowed from jainism, but he rejected jainism.

james

[TJSKULL52]

yup i agree but that also another story

he started as a jain saint but he didn't like thats must restrictions and wanted to make in his own ways which is suitable

thats why he left it and started Buddhism with main concept from jainism and less restrictions(actually cant say restrictions)

[GBJ83]

the middle way between the "hardcore" jains monks and the "weed smoking" sadhus is a very childish way of interpreting it. All enlightened beings teachings are simply to help each have his own realisation. It is inevitable that if a practicing "buddhist" is to become self realised, he has automatically "rejected" buddhism.

[opensourcebuddhism]

but until full awakening, one must live in the conventional world of words and labels, no? and the middle way has nothing to do with weed-smoking but the household life of the hindu versus the solitary asceticism of jainism. that is the middle way as buddha intended it.

james

[CulturePeaceForever]

What is Jainism?

[elecrocks]

I would like to make a correction - According to jainism the religion wasn't started by Mahavir (who is the 24th teethankar). He is believed to introduce it again at the time when people forgot religion. Accoding to literature, there are 6 eras and every 4th era, 24 teerthankar will be born, at different time instances, and will spread the religion and mahavir was the last one. (see wiki for more info). reply me for further discussion

[nipunjain999]

Way.........to get Moksha

[gennaromontrone]

the big religion

[stupidstickmen84]

aww he sounds like he has a cold... lol

[1utarefson7]

It always sounds odd to me, americans saying buddhism, pronouncing it boodhism :]

I'm english, we say it more like buhdism, where the 'uh' is short and sweet.

Metta

[vandaylen]

I have to say there's some misinformation. For example, the three jewels are a huge part of buddhism, probably more then jainism. Nearly all buddhist sects have a prayer of refuge in the three jewels

[Araxii]

too bad jainism didn't spread around the world like buddhism, it's a very noble religion =) non violence and non suffering of humans and animals is what we need in this times

[beancube2008]

When Chinese go to get the theory, Jainism had been hided by the monks. So you can judge those monks cannot handle the entire truth of the philosophy. Chinese monks would be the eye-witnesses in this case if you need proof.

[kushalkamdar]

GOOD

[kanchanbury]

Excellent work!

[opensourcebuddhism]

Please let us know what is wrong Devesh Jain in Delhi.

James

[deveshjaindelhi]

this video containing several wrong information abour jainism.

[niljal]

Hi..i think you have done research on Jainisam...Jains belives in Non-Violence.and they are Vegan and Vegetarian. Live and let live others. Thankx

[makolam]

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