ZvZ Epic! (P4/4) Yellow v GGplay @ 2005 OSL Season 1

[hafka77]

I cannot call 20 minutes of flying around with plagued mutalisks epic...

[Galenin]

Would you pause commentating if Reach called you ... ? ^^

[AkerysxXx]

a stop lurker is when you control your lurker for them not to attack . When the enemy is more engaged, you can make them attack very efficiently (he didn't know)

[NoobsGetOwned4Life]

nice yellow! it was an excelent choice to go devourers before ggplay could

[ahtremblay]

wtf is a stop lurker?

[Iliyan503]

You get a lurker, burrow it, and target a opponent's building that is out of range. What happens is that the Lurker can't attack it and it just stands burrowed without attacking close units that are in range.

How to use that?

Once a large pack of units comes close, you unstop them, basically select them and attack the units that are in range. This produces DEVASTATING attacks on clumped low HP units, like marines, zerglings, hydras, zealots etc..

[ChocolateMilk831]

Someone remind me what stopped lurkers are...

[Anrik21]

You can hit hold ground, or stop, Tasteless saying hold ground, Cholera says stop, and they wont attack, even though they are buried.

[ChocolateMilk831]

Ah yes i see, thanks for reply.

[WhenHellFreezes101]

to be more specific you can select the lurkers with a unit that can hold then hit hold. you can spam s. you can also right click on a far away enemey building. all those was create stop lurkers.

[SiouxTube]

Man, GGplay was just beat down near the end there but still the game was fantastic. I really liked the trade off Plagues and the constant presence of air power in this fight, very cool.

[stevethemacguy]

I felt Yellow made the smarter decisions throughout the whole game. His economic advantage allowed him to contain GGplay. The unit "cap" hurt both players because they were both cautious about switching to ground units because they could be temporarily vulnerable. Yellow did a good job of baiting the mutas and then plaguing them, which is what I thought he was going for with that first plague. GG's made some life saving plagues but mainly when defending which is easier to do. Fun to watch.

[Hotaroh]

I really like your commentaries Cholera :P

I didn't like this game though, wasn't epic, imo. The other zvz was far more entertaining and fun in general.

[llihnroht]

good stuff, quite epic

[hmstr]

or, you can just choose not to watch them and the rest of us non-korean-speaking people can enjoy some starcraft commentary.

[HunterBlackLuna]

Then don't watch and then stay long enough to leave your trolling comment, asshole.

[VaderPad]

At 10:25 when the audience is filmed some people are covering their faces.

Is there any special (cultural?) reason they do this?

[uzernam302]

the most convincing explanations i've heard about this are:

they (particularly the girls) like playing "cute" and/or "shy" so they cover up their faces; and that apparently some people skip school sometimes to go to games so they cover their faces to not be seen. lol

gg, it was actually very similar to the foreigner game, though i think the other was more interesting, though that may just be because i saw it first and so now i'd already seen a lot of what happened in this game.

[BenHileday]

Hey Cholera, how bout you dig around for some TvZ reps with Nukes on Zerg. Can't go wrong with that!

[needsmorsleep]

try boxer vs odin

[Skazzo]

It would of been an excellent combination to plague the clumped muta and then follow up with queen ensnare in order to be able to chase them down.

Wonder why this wasn't used.

[goa103]

Yes and a few borrowed Hydras everywhere to take out while they're retreating !

[dubassex]

Great commentary, great game. Very tense throughout.

[paladinzdude]

this game was epic, thanks for brining it to the US cholera. Crazy unit combos from both players, with a standoffish type game that I'd more likely see in TvT.

[lLastGamel]

And Canada and Europe and everywhere other than Korea

[goa103]

Yes I think we all live on a planet named Earth, something like that ;)

[lolggnorm]

Excellent game, thanks again for doing this particular one that I've wanted to see for so long.

---spoilers---

YellOw is such an excellent player, turned an early mutalisk deficit into an eventual advantage with great economic/defensive play, and getting the right tech at the right time.

[xodarapi]

Spawn Broodlings = solution to enemy defilers/ultralisks. It's too bad he only used the Queens for parasite and an ensnare, possibly the least useful spell in the game.

Overall, I'd say this game wasn't as exciting as the other epic ZvZ. Still largely by-the-books.

[onlyinjuly]

I think the main reason this ZvZ went on for so long is because of the map with the small ramp and island expos

[Drosis]

Great commentary, keep them up. Loved the stop lurkers and plagues.

[hath995]

Awesome game! Thanks for the commentary!

[ZkilfinG2]

Fun game to watch, and great commentaries, thanks!

[BlackMagister]

If it weren't for the fact that it shoes a green box around the unit with parasite, the parasite spell would be extremely useful for tracking the other army.

Seems like long ZvZ it's still best for mostly Mutalisk instead of Ultralisk or Hydralisk

Great game overall, wouldn't have happened if Yellow hadn't gone Spores instead of Mutalisk.

[liandzbergis]

bwahahaha crazy game. kinda slow in the beginning but awsum in the end with all those lurkers, plagues and stuff =]

[SC2Source]

Yeah, cool game and a good commentary as well. GJ! *thumbs up*

[TerranStacraft]

Wow amazing game! GGPlay got outgamed by Yellow!

[spawnfan101]

Since watching your previous commentary and this one my zvz games have become much more interesting :)

[CaptainWaffles]

Those stopped lurkers, DSed lukers...plagues, this game was insane. Awesome commentary.