@invisibleisolation I'm American and I've been to the ME several times....all my life and as the first half of your comment is fine, your second generalization of Arabs is simply ignorant.
Let's stop arguing and take concrete action to spread peace in this world!
Simple suggestion: Go to website w w w dot avaaz dot org, and sign the petition for Palestine. Tell all your friends and post on your facebook. Love to everyone, hatred for none
@leMonde, a shove is the same as a push. It is normally more forcefull. You can say 'Peopled pushed and shoved in the que' or 'He was shoved so hard that he fell to ground" I hope that helpd to explain the word shoved.
450 Israeli soldiers is only about 0.3% of active servicemen/women in the Israeli army (according to possibly unreliable sources), so it's a tiny rebellion, but significant all the same. I imagine that taking a stand like that in Israel is potentially terminal; if you're not 100% for whatever actions Israel takes, you're an "anti-Semite" or a "self-hating Jew", right?
These soldiers are thinking for themselves and questioning authority. This is the highest form of logic one can display and I give them all respect. If only the soldiers of North America would do the same thing instead of just following blindly and continuing useless wars that basically breed hate towards the western world.
"Support for Israel has cost America dearly - well over than $10,000 per American - however the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been extremely costly for the entire world. The total bill for supporting Israel is two to four times higher than that for the U.S. alone - costing the global community an estimated $6 to $12 trillion."
- Thomas R. Stauffer's summary of the research was published in the June 2003 issue of The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs.
@invisibleisolation "Arabs are dangerous people", good going demonizing almost a billion people! "will blow themselves up for any cause" really? Any cause? You should stop listening to whoever sold you that crap. And Americans have been to the Middle East, several times! (Iraq?) Have you been living in a cave?
You're like those idiots who think that black people are dangerous because the guys in prison (in the US) are mostly black, people are not born criminals, terrorists or racist assholes.
IM A CHRISTIAN LEBANESE I LEFT MY COUNTRY BEACOUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE HIZBOLLAH THEY ARE DISTROYING LEBANON IN THE GOVERMENT THEY DONT EVEN GET ALONG BUNCH OF FUCKING FARMERS WHO LIVES IN SOUTH LEBANON SHITTIEST PEOPLE IN THIS PLANET
jews dont let the secularist zionists dictate your religion and tell u how jews should behave u have your torah to give you guidlines isreal is not gods word. justice should be equal on both sides than peace and prosperity can heppen
@OkeenoUnleashed@OkeenoUnleashed wow that sounds soo pretty, unfortunatly israel would never grant palestinians israeli citzenship due to the fact that it wouldmake palestinians the majority in the country. thats what this whole conflict is about,, israel has tried for years thru massive immigration, to raise the jewish population in order to legitamize its illegal presence in occupied Palestine. i would have called your comment stupied but other people got you beat on this board..
Its so unfortunate that many jews practice zionist ideologies. Jews are blessed with many traits that make them a successful unique race. The bible says they are Gods favorite, "the chosen people". And when they put their efforts into evil and clever deeds they can be devastating. But when they pursue a rightious cause they shine and become soo inspirational, For example the story of Jesus of nazareth. I applaud these soldiers.
if you really think that Israel is a legitimate state because the great great great- grandfathers of the Jews lived in that land for a period of time, then you would have to aknowledge that America, Australia and New Zealand are illegitimate countries, because they had no ancestral descent or lineage in those lands, before they conquered the natives by force!!!
Most of the westerns are hypocrites for supporting such an illegal occupation, so they better wakeup and straighten their policies
during the dark ages muhammad (saw) bought peace, justice, equalitiy, unity and
the words of god and so on,We all belive in one god but in diffrent ways.
there was a time when Muslims, Jews, Christians lived side by side in peace.
Muslims have contributed to the world
Trigonometry, Sine, Tangent, Co-Tangent, Algebra and Geometry, Physics and Chemistry, Science of Mechanics ,Theory of Relativity Geography Advances in Industry & even paper making.
"I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state. …the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish state with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power….I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain – especially from the development of a narrow nationalism within our own ranks…"
I am glad their are good people like these jews soldier who are human enough to see that a hole race of people are being degenerated as human beings. yes, their will always be good people: thanks god. What goes around comes around.
Sign the Avaaz petition today - we have a few days before the UN meet. Save the children within Palestine - Please, please - we in the UK already support Palestine. avaaz dot com
please keep copying and pasting this so that it stays on top of the comments
Rabbi Yoel Teitelbaum, Rebbe of Satmar, Hungary, later rabbi of Palestine
רבי יואל טייטלבוים זצ"ל אדמו"ר ואב" ד סאטמאר
If we were to put all the sins of this generation and all the transgressions committed in the entire world on one side of a scale, and the Zionist state on the other side, it would outweigh everything, for it is the poisonous source of the worst defilement, the worst cause of damage in the entire world, and they are ones who defile the entire world
they are poor because they don't want to give the land back to israel as soon as they do they will have the benefit schooling and support every israeli citizen has.
@OkeenoUnleashed@OkeenoUnleashed wow that sounds soo pretty, unfortunatly israel would never grant palestinians israeli citzenship due to the fact that it wouldmake palestinians the majority in the country. thats what this whole conflict is about,, israel has tried for years thru massive immigration, to raise the jewish population in order to legitamize its illegal presence in occupied Palestine. i would have called your comment stupied but other people got you beat on this board..
Why is this always goverment agenda that is against the majority rule. They hurt others and screw their own people. Not only isreal but all around the world are the goverments acting on a non democratic agenda although promised republic representation. Sigh we are heading for a cross roads ... what is this like the 20th one destined for this century.
Hot man alert at 2:30 and at 4:12. Two voices of reason.
Chase Bank is a Nazi Israeli bank, part of the Illuminati banking system. The USA Federal Resereve Bank is a Nazi Israeli Illuminati banking system. They are ripping of Americans with hidden service fees and other financial scams. They are pure Nazis and are financing global enslavement by ripping off customers. They use a blue schwastiks as a logo that is hung out on the front of their buildings.
@ShaggyAce No they are not. You should have these type of individuals running Israel. They have a heart and a conscience. This has made my heart feel good listening to this men. They are very good looking also.
No this is true, sure 98% wouldnt care if they killed a Palestinian civilian, but 2% are good normal regular Israeli soldiers will will defend the country but will not oppress and bully others. Have respect for these Israeli soldiers who stand up to their leaders, as they respect your fellow Palestinians. Okay.
hahaha "refusals encourage terrorism" The New World Order evil scumbags are such idiots. Forceful government repression the only thing in the world that encourages terrorism.
@SeaDooize While I do not condone suicde bombmers, and I agree they are cowards to target civillians. However, the men who are fighting a so called war against defenseless people in the occupied territories are also cowards. What these guys are saying is that they will not participate in punishing the people as a whole through occupation and oppression.
If arabs in Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Egypt want to stop losing land they will stop killing Jews. They have already lost so many lives and so much land that it is obvious they have no idea how to fight a war or negotiate peace. They lose every time and they lose big. There is no palestine.
@zumadog we will lose land, but at the end we will win , god promised us to win and kill the jews..yeah its not a problem to lose life for something you belive in..we are ready to die..this life is for you..we want the next life..
@zumadog You are just a racist, sir. Nothing more than it. The Arabs keep losing because Israel has billions and billions of dollars coming from USA and Europe every year while the Arabs are alone.
Their losses are not something to Zionists be proud about but to be ashamed of, because it just shows how coward this war is.
Using all the most modern weapons on the poor people and coutries... WAW What a war hero Israel is! You all are immoral.
@DrEliasFirmino so what? isreal is still just pure evil. fuck israel fuck the people and their fucking billions money! SPAIN IS WITH YOU Palestine. may justice be served very soon..
its many israelis who feel the same way as them Very Brave n Honourable guys too who help the palestinians any way they can but sadly the power elite does not it was Very hard for me at first to accept jewish ppl where doing this to the palestinians the pot calling the Kettle dirty yet again theses guys are Real Hero God bless them n all who stand for justice
@LeMonde63 Oh you mean shoved her in his pocket? What was she that small? Later on you'll say, no he was talking about a rat - not a human. Just the same way the media tries to twist things around eh? Ridiculous!
Every dictator in history has proclaimed some variant of: "I am God's chosen instrument and my people are God's chosen people and have the right to kick everyone else's ass." There is no God outside love, peace and brotherhood.
The jewish people have already had their asses handed too them before (not just the holocaust but even many more examples than that) so why can't you just let them win just this once?
Besides Isreal govt has better human rights and more money than the Palestinian, so the people living their would have a better qualitiy of life anyway
@maria78h No this is true, sure 98% wouldnt care if they killed a Palestinian civilian, but 2% are good normal regular Israeli soldiers will will defend the country but will not oppress and bully others. Have respect for these Israeli soldiers who stand up to their leaders, as they respect your fellow Palestinians. Okay.
These people are in a very difficult position. They know that Israel requires an army to continue its existence. They also can not be part of a repressive occupation. They do not want to be hated by subjugated Palestinians, nor by their angered fellow Israelis.
@Englishdosser86 If the Israeli people stopped voting for right-wing-ultra-nationlist-hypocritically-religious-fanatics but for people with reason instead and pulled out that rightwing scum from the Westbank and sent those thugs back from where they came (Russia and the USA mostly), there would be some chance of a breakthrough. It would stop the pretence for Arab fanatics to become terrorists and it could bring peace.
I am so impressed with these men who are honorable and humble. Our USA gov never interviews brave and courageous people who speak the truth during a fake war on terror. There are so many outstanding people in Israel, USA, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc, who are DECENT, HONORABLE, NON-VIOLENT. It is our governments that cause all of the problems and try to get us to hate one another. Operation Mockingbird controls the media in USA This was very humbling.
Our USA government murdered someone named Pat Tillman, while he was serving in Afghanistan. He was an all star athlete football star. Once he was over there he realized it was a lie. He was assassinated and the gov tried to lie about him giving his life for his country and was a hero. Then it all unraveled and came out. Pat Tillman was going to be an anti war activist when he got out and the usa gov would not allow that. Bush & Chaney were responsible for all of it.
Israel must make peace. Israel has no option but to give up land and sue for peace in the long term, it has no friends in the arab public, surrounded from all sides by people who do not want them there. Land stealing was never made as crime in the middle east but what now for Israel? Israel is alive and well, but the Arabs hold the clock, and time is on their side.
Jews are being hated for so many things these days, I'm so glad these Jewish soldiers have the courage to find alternatives. Thanks so much for posting- I've played music with such fine Jewish musicians who aren't militant at all.
Avigdor Lieberman born Evet Lvovich Liberman is a Soviet-born Israeli politician. He is the founder and leader of the Yisrael Beiteinu party, whose electoral base are the immigrants from the former Soviet Union, Lieberman is typical of the type of person that has invaded Palestine, delusional fantasist, arrogant, bigoted neo-fascist, and corrupt gangster, he represents the true face of Israel.
When U Shoot a Man, Woman &/or Child? & U Watch Them Die Did U See The Pain & Struggle In Their Eyes? Do U Cry? Or do U start To Hear The Thunder? And R U scared U might go under? When it’s Time To meet Ur Maker Will he understand THAT U KILLED A MAN TO STEAL HIS LAND? Would Ur maker discriminate? Upon your Entry To The Gate? U Need To Know Ur Fate, Cause Now Ur Life Ain't Str8 The Zionist Gate of Hell awaits you . . . any thought on what to do? “Richie Rich”
"When I shoot a man, or anybody else its only because I do so to survive.. stay alive..have to stop the rockets from pouring inside, look in my eyes, like a lion I fight for Zion... fight for Zion, until the day I die until there's no more reason to cry. My land, my City of David, Jerusalem Footstool of Elohim, one day to be freed of Radical Muslims, So Richie Rich and all can hate, Jewish Land, Zion, eternal like Heaven's Gate." Sugarhitman
450 is so admirable and I love those Soldiers who have a heart & humanity... God Bless you all...
We need all of the Zionist Israeli's to WAke UP and see the evil that their government is forcing upon their citizens...
Their souls are being corrupt by their very own country... these soldiers have a conscience and they might be numb now... but when they are alone this will haunt them... where will the ZioNAZI Israeli government be than????
Iran will losse the war.. !!Viva Israel The Gods people.!!!!! Will gonna win this war with Iran because is all Write..in The Holly Bible The Book of Life...our Father is with Israel don.t worryy..Israel 10 milions--- arabsmuslims 800 milions...but Israel will win the war because is all write..!!Viva Israel Amin.
@spynu85 doesn't torah said not to make isreal without the messiah, that is your jewish boopk saying not to make the country without God's says o, is brittish and german nazi God??? You guys can;t even follow your own book, how are zionist jews gonna foollwo laws like regular people, they are not, that have no consience
Good. This is genocide. The genocide Israel fosters in Darfur, then turns away the refugees which enter its country. Genocide was first recorded in the Torah, perpetrated by the Biblical Chosen. It is a game. They commit genocide and yet insist that they are the sole victims of genocide (except for Darfur). Sudan is a means to destabilize a region so as to gain entry into Egypt. They have done well--I hope their days are numbered.
"Our presence their simply casues an imposibble situation for a normal life" Can it be said any clearer than that? Get the hell out and go back to land you should be gratefull to have.
I have to admit this is all news to me, even if its 8 years old. What happend with the movement?
@MrRevolution53 No israeli refuses to kill Palestinian people? Soo your telling us they love killing them. Which is true on the count of the THOUSANDS they kill and humiliate everyday.
Thumbs up to those two soldiers!! May God Bless them for taking such challenging decisions.. May God guide them and the rest of the soldiers who participated in it, towards the Truth!
Sharon is a terrorist, a ruthless military man and a racist. He has no qualms about wiping out unarmed civilians. He is in the same league as Hitler, Pol Pot and Stalin.
What the FUCK is Israel doing to their kids ? Sending boys and girls who should be hanging at the mall to war . What the FUCK is Israel doing to Palestinians ? What a sick FUCKED up country it is to let school children write taunts to Palestinian school children on FUCKING bombs and missiles that are going to kill and maim them .
@TheLoveoflebanon First he said, "I shot her and moved on." Then he said, "I shoved her. I shoved her hard." I think he was having problem with English. "Shot" and "shove" are similar.
IDF airforce leader eliezer shkedi succeeded in bringing terrorist to civilian casualty ratio down in gaza to 29:1 (LOWEST CIVILIAN CASUALTY RATIO IN THE HISTORY OF WARARE!) Source: Pinpoint Attacks on Gaza More Precise, Haaretz, Amos Harel, 30/12/07
Hamas official: "For the Palestinian people, death has become an industry, at which women excel.. elderly excel at this, & so do the mujahideen and the children. This is why they have formed human shields of the women, the children, the elderly.."
@oc00011 The "quote" that you describe is reported to be from the Hamas official, Fathi Hammad. It was disseminated by MEMRI (The Middle East Media Research Institute). MEMRI was founded by Israelis and former members of Israeli intelligence. MEMRI is notorious for its mistranslations of Arabic to English. Who benefits from these mistranslations? Google the following for answers:
Some Jewish extremists you won't read much about from MEMRI:
RABBI OVADIA YOSEF, the spiritual leader of the Israeli Congress' Shas Party, THE ISRAELI DEFENSE FORCES RABBINATE, RABBI YITZHAK SHAPIRA, and MANIS FRIEDMAN
Google:
IDF Rabbinate Publication Rabbi Shlomo Aviner Operation Cast Lead
How to Kill Goyim and Influence People: AlterNet
Rabbi Ovadia Yosef Palestinians
Rabbi Ovadia Yosef Goyim
Chabad rabbi: Jews should kill Arab men, women and children during war
its not just a case of "more palestinian deaths" (most from hamas). 1st its a matter of approach, when i was a child there it was during a time that palestinians were grabbing children from their mothers in the street&stabbing them. meanwhile a commander i knew went to court bcoz he shot a palestinian that threw a molotov cocktail at him&turned to run, the bullet entered thru the guy's back so the commander was charged for shooting an unarmed person trying to escape- IDF protocol in practice
@oc00011 Are there any news reports available to "Google" that mention the incidents of child stabbings? Did you know that violence is being committed by Israelis on Palestinians with little or no consequences? Israel supports the Jewish only colonies in Palestine where many Jewish terrorists (Kahanists) live and where much of the violence is propagated. Google: Israeli Settler Violence
GOOGLE: Israelis and Palestinians Killed since 9/29/2000
@LeMonde63 did u know arabs who choose to live peacefully with jews r israeli citizens with full equal rights? did u know they hav more rights there than in any arab state? did u know hamas use their own children as human shields, also send them to blow themselves up in israeli schools etc. (their OWN children, just to kill jewish kids). did u know israel's civilian-terrorist casualty ratio during their last counter-attack in gaza was 1:29 (LOWEST CIVILIAN CASUALTY RATIO IN HISTORY OF WARFARE)
@oc00011 I have heard these statements so many times that I frequently ponder if there is some kind of "Hasbara" handbook with lists of "facts" to repeat to the (uninformed) public.
Non-Jews do not have the same rights as Jews in Israel. I have documented this in two videos.
@oc00011 As far as Hamas and the "Human Shields" meme, Israel has never conclusively proved these allegations. Numerous human rights organizations (and more) have found evidence that Israel DOES use Palestinians as human shields. Read facts 13 and 14 in the following report about the use of human shields by Googling:
Goldstone Report Commission: Read the allegations Global Research
@LeMonde63 research real human rights org's like 'UN Watch', not agenda-driven political games from groups like UNHRC. check: palestinians' aim to commit a genocide of the jews [palestinian media, al aqsa tv, hamas charters etc.], 85.3% of palestinian population support killing israeli children [PCPSR, 2008], 75.6% support terrorism against israeli civilians [JMCC, 2003], 65% support al-qaeda actions against USA & europe [Fafo, 2005], 61.3% support targeting civilians [OPSSC an-najah uni, 2006]
@oc00011 UN Watch is not a human rights organization. It is an NGO created, "...to monitor the performance of the United Nations by the yardstick of its own Charter..." It is affiliated with the American Jewish commitee and is a part of the Israeli Hasbara Commitee. UN Watch's founder is an honorary member of the AJC.
Amnesty international and BT' Selem are not "real" human rights organizations?
@oc00011 I forgot to mention that the International Red Cross also reported Israeli "violations" during Cast lead. /watch?v=IopjMpu9aVo
Israel's Likud Charter is similar to the Hamas Charter. There's been virtually no media acknowledgement about how Netanyahu's political party in Israel refuses the right of Palestine to exist or Likud's claims to the right to build the Jewish-only Colonies in the West Bank.
@oc00011 What do the terrorists in the colonies and extremist Israeli officials (Avigdor Lieberman) and clergy have to say about Arabs? There is hatred on both sides. The difference is Israel is supported with billions of dollars and just as many excuses for this abhorrent behavior and attitude. They are also militarily occupying and controlling the Gaza ghetto and the West Bank.
@oc00011 Of course, Israel insists it does not condone killing and harming civilians, while it kills and harms civilians by the tens of thousands and destroys civilian facilities, homes and infrastructure that make human survival possible.
Google: in place of fear a tale of two charters
Avigdor Lieberman Racist
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I have read the poll reports itemized on the Zionist Organization of America's Website (October,2010).
@oc00011 Why are the Palestinians so hostile? This is rarely addressed. We are told that Muslim terrorists are attacking the defenseless Israelis just for being Jewish. Maybe one day, more of us will know Israel's own history of terrorism, the Zionist's founder's plans of forced "population transfer" to "make way" for the Europeans and Western Jews and the modern day extremists and religious fanatics who serve in the Israeli government and military today.
@LeMonde63 lol how twisted. religious fanatics in israeli government today hav almost 0 political power! its a coalition, & don't forget even the first ever modern zionists e.g. (the founder) herzl were athiests. "population transfer" was an idea adopted by the far right of zionist groups, a very small minority, whereas 'hagana' (vast majority) wanted to live in equality, co-existence, in the same land with the 'indigenous jews&arabs' (='palestinian' before the 1960s). i welcome more questions.
@oc00011 I don't doubt that most Jews wanted to live in peace and security. Wasn't that the stated goal of Zionism? Why do you think Palestinians won't accomodate the Israelis and just move out to any Arab country? Based on research of declassified Israeli documents, it is now known that David Ben-Gurion, Israel's first Prime Minister, supported population transfer. Do you think Ben-Gurion was representative of a small minority of Jews?
@oc00011 It seems that even Herzl, "the father of political Zionism", was a traitorous representative of the Jewish people. I think the Jewish people (like Muslims) are collectively being "setup".
Google: David Ben-Gurion population transfer diary
@LeMonde63 david ben gurion, on the contrary, tried to persuade the arabs to stay, but they still refused in fear of being judged as traitors to the arab cause. the population transfer quote is a forgery. in tiberias and haifa the haganah issued orders that none of the arabs' possessions should be touched, & warned that anyone who violated the orders would be severely punished. despite these efforts, all but about 5,000 arabs evacuated haifa. u want the sources for this?
@oc00011 The quotes about Gurion's views of population transfer come from declassified Zionist documents and Gurion's diary entries archived in Israel at the Gurion library. Israeli researchers such as Benny Morris, Ilan Pappe, Tom Segev and Simha Flapan and others have written extensively about this. I see...the Haganah protected the Arab's property and punished the Jewish-European colonists and Irgun members who violated these orders.
@oc00011 Operation Bi'ur Hametz, Hebrew for "Passover Cleaning" was the name of the operation in Haifa. What was being cleansed? Yes, the Jewish leadership said they wanted the Arabs to stay, they just didn't want them to come back after the fighting was over, when it was safe to do so. Even Arabs in current day Israel that left their homes for whatever reason but stayed in the country were absurdly labeled, "Present Absentees".
@oc00011 Considering the massacres and rumors of Zionist atrocities (like Deir Yassin) that preceded the occupation of Haifa, I don't blame them for fleeing.
@LeMonde63 deir yassin was of course a tragedy, no normal person wud be proud of that event. but no, the reason for many if not most of palestinians fleeing was under pressure from arab state leaders who assured them they will return soon once they "drive all the jews to the sea".
@LeMonde63 "I see...the Haganah protected the Arab's property and punished the Jewish-European colonists and Irgun members who violated these orders."
yes. u want the sources? ..& jewish-european colonists were a small unpopular minority of the zionist movement, which predominantly strived for co-existence with arabs in the same land.. partition didn't go as planned bcoz of arab refusal.
i hope u will post all these comments i'm sending u, i haven't insulted u, no reason for censorship
@LeMonde63 "an army order issued July 6, 1948, made clear that arab towns and villages were not to be demolished or burned, and that arab inhabitants were not to be expelled from their homes". there were of course exceptions to this, where some jews did attempt to expel arabs, but that accounted for a very small population of the total arab population that fled - most fled on their own accord, in fear from the pressure given by militant arab factions, not to agree to a truce with the jews.
@oc00011 I see...in 1948 it was announced that the Arabs and their property was to be protected by the Israelis. They fled because the Arab leadership told them to do so, in spite of the the security and reassurance the Zionist's offered. I have heard this repeatedly by Israeli Hasbarists despite what Israeli researchers such as Benny Morris, Ilan Pappe, Tom Segev and Simha Flapan and others have discovered in declassified Israeli and British archives.
@LeMonde63 of course lieberman's racist he's insane, disrespected & disreputed in israeli society. like BNP are 'spat on' by most of the english. does nick griffin offer a accurate representation of english culture? no, no more than lieberman can represent zionists/israelis. u heard of the other many types of zionist policies? socialist humanitarian types? capitalist realist types? mix of the two? religious, athiest.. sources show both gandhi & martin luther king were pro-zionist! i mean come on
@oc00011 Griffin's BNP party has no seats in the English Parliament. I think that Lieberman knows exactly what he is doing. He is Israel's Deputy Prime Minister. He is also Minister of Foreign Affairs, and as such represents all Israelis when he is meeting with governments in other countries. I agree that not all Jews are like Lieberman or Prime Minister Netanyahu and the Likudniks.
However, as Netanyahu's Likud and Yisrael Beiteinu's Lieberman are currently in high (elected) positions as the second and third largest political parties, respectively, they are a reflection of Israel. I doubt that Gandhi would approve of Israel today, based on his stated views. I could only find a hoaxed letter attributed to King about his views on Zionism. I don't think MLK would presently support Israel.
Google: Martin Luther King, Jr Zionist letter hoax
@LeMonde63 its the core principle of zionism that gandhi approved of - jews as self-determined people. in other words, israel's right to exist, something palestinian leaders always refuse to acknowledge. regarding the rising centrist-rightwing political views of israelis in recent yrs, its unavoidable when considering the number of decades with left wing israeli government repeatedly striving for peace agreements- with responses of huge upsurges of violence evrytime directed at israeli civilians
@oc00011 I have yet to see Israelis allow Palestinians the same self-determination that they demand for theselves. When there has been cooperation in the West Bank, the Palestinians get Jewish-only colonies and roads and religious extremists destroying and rampaging with weapons given to them by the Israeli government.
@oc00011 Gandhi said: "...Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French. It is wrong and in-human to impose the Jews on the Arabs. What is going on in Palestine today cannot be justified by any moral code of conduct..."
"Why should the Jews not, like other peoples of the earth, make that country their home where they are born and where they earn their livelihood?"
are you going to approve my comments or not? as it currently seems that u decide to censor my right of freedom of speech bcoz it conflicts with ur views, & not bcoz of any abusive language
@LeMonde63 "I have yet to see Israelis allow Palestinians the same self-determination that they demand for theselves."
'land for peace' deals include 1947, 1993, 1999, 2000, 2007.. including deals that wud give palestinians sovereignty over much of jerusalem, 97% of west bank & 100% of gaza. palestinians responded with upsurges of violence directed at israeli civilians.
ask urself why palestinians didn't protest violently as they do now, when they were under jordanian & egyptian rule!
@LeMonde63 israels finance support?palestinians "receive more aid per capita than any other country" [middle east quarterly, summer'08]. so Y they hav 3000 rockets to kill civilians, but their people hav no food? coz of israel? aid: $2500 monthly pay to marwan barghouti who murdered 26 israelis [source: 'international financial aid to the palestinian authority redirected to terrorist elements'], $1.5m villa for mahmoud abbas [NY times2/2/97], $22m annual pay to arafat's wife [NY times12/11/04]
@LeMonde63 the impoverished gazans is not Only bcoz of PLO, hamas etc. (altho it is mainly bcoz of them). no doubt that israel's counter-attacks hav contributed to this situation but it can't be ignored that the level of corruption in every palestinian governing body since beginning of time has cared much more about investing in weapons to kill israeli civilians than the well being of their own people, not to mention their stinking rich officials with huge villas & other luxuries.
respect to these soldiers
2ibbie 5 months ago 86
@invisibleisolation I'm American and I've been to the ME several times....all my life and as the first half of your comment is fine, your second generalization of Arabs is simply ignorant.
TheRingLeaderMan123 5 months ago 9
Let's stop arguing and take concrete action to spread peace in this world!
Simple suggestion: Go to website w w w dot avaaz dot org, and sign the petition for Palestine. Tell all your friends and post on your facebook. Love to everyone, hatred for none
mvv10 5 months ago
@leMonde, a shove is the same as a push. It is normally more forcefull. You can say 'Peopled pushed and shoved in the que' or 'He was shoved so hard that he fell to ground" I hope that helpd to explain the word shoved.
TheFlowerchimp 5 months ago
You do not have to be too bright to know what is happening in the Occupied Territories and that Jusaism has nothing to do with it.
Colonizing in a post colonial age can only attract the morally bankrupt.
chugalongway 5 months ago 2
450 Israeli soldiers is only about 0.3% of active servicemen/women in the Israeli army (according to possibly unreliable sources), so it's a tiny rebellion, but significant all the same. I imagine that taking a stand like that in Israel is potentially terminal; if you're not 100% for whatever actions Israel takes, you're an "anti-Semite" or a "self-hating Jew", right?
Valelacerte 5 months ago 12
what an honorable person....may you go from strength to strength brother
82ayda 5 months ago 9
These soldiers are thinking for themselves and questioning authority. This is the highest form of logic one can display and I give them all respect. If only the soldiers of North America would do the same thing instead of just following blindly and continuing useless wars that basically breed hate towards the western world.
aristurtle1 5 months ago 15
"Support for Israel has cost America dearly - well over than $10,000 per American - however the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been extremely costly for the entire world. The total bill for supporting Israel is two to four times higher than that for the U.S. alone - costing the global community an estimated $6 to $12 trillion."
- Thomas R. Stauffer's summary of the research was published in the June 2003 issue of The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs.
SuperAntiZionist 5 months ago 6
love and respect to these men and all israeli peace activists.
sherhak 5 months ago
@invisibleisolation "Arabs are dangerous people", good going demonizing almost a billion people! "will blow themselves up for any cause" really? Any cause? You should stop listening to whoever sold you that crap. And Americans have been to the Middle East, several times! (Iraq?) Have you been living in a cave?
You're like those idiots who think that black people are dangerous because the guys in prison (in the US) are mostly black, people are not born criminals, terrorists or racist assholes.
mhbed5 5 months ago
IM A CHRISTIAN LEBANESE I LEFT MY COUNTRY BEACOUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE HIZBOLLAH THEY ARE DISTROYING LEBANON IN THE GOVERMENT THEY DONT EVEN GET ALONG BUNCH OF FUCKING FARMERS WHO LIVES IN SOUTH LEBANON SHITTIEST PEOPLE IN THIS PLANET
OUWATZAHLE08 5 months ago
Israel is simply a disgusting Masonic DEMON.
WarDogLRS 5 months ago
These are good people.
SwordPengy8 5 months ago
jews dont let the secularist zionists dictate your religion and tell u how jews should behave u have your torah to give you guidlines isreal is not gods word. justice should be equal on both sides than peace and prosperity can heppen
azn0nza 5 months ago
@OkeenoUnleashed @OkeenoUnleashed wow that sounds soo pretty, unfortunatly israel would never grant palestinians israeli citzenship due to the fact that it wouldmake palestinians the majority in the country. thats what this whole conflict is about,, israel has tried for years thru massive immigration, to raise the jewish population in order to legitamize its illegal presence in occupied Palestine. i would have called your comment stupied but other people got you beat on this board..
sorite007 5 months ago
Its so unfortunate that many jews practice zionist ideologies. Jews are blessed with many traits that make them a successful unique race. The bible says they are Gods favorite, "the chosen people". And when they put their efforts into evil and clever deeds they can be devastating. But when they pursue a rightious cause they shine and become soo inspirational, For example the story of Jesus of nazareth. I applaud these soldiers.
sorite007 5 months ago
if you really think that Israel is a legitimate state because the great great great- grandfathers of the Jews lived in that land for a period of time, then you would have to aknowledge that America, Australia and New Zealand are illegitimate countries, because they had no ancestral descent or lineage in those lands, before they conquered the natives by force!!!
Most of the westerns are hypocrites for supporting such an illegal occupation, so they better wakeup and straighten their policies
MrYemenipride 5 months ago
Respect
blackdevil99999 5 months ago
during the dark ages muhammad (saw) bought peace, justice, equalitiy, unity and
the words of god and so on,We all belive in one god but in diffrent ways.
there was a time when Muslims, Jews, Christians lived side by side in peace.
Muslims have contributed to the world
Trigonometry, Sine, Tangent, Co-Tangent, Algebra and Geometry, Physics and Chemistry, Science of Mechanics ,Theory of Relativity Geography Advances in Industry & even paper making.
This war is for LAND, POWER, OIL not RELIGION.
jaredmia1 5 months ago
"I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state. …the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish state with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power….I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain – especially from the development of a narrow nationalism within our own ranks…"
Albert Einstein speech in New York, 1938
FantomasXZ7 5 months ago
I am glad their are good people like these jews soldier who are human enough to see that a hole race of people are being degenerated as human beings. yes, their will always be good people: thanks god. What goes around comes around.
saludandotti 6 months ago
שתלכו כולכם לעזאזל - על משעשיתם לי!
אתם זה אתם - הדאזיזס של העולם - זה אתם המכה מהשמיים
- מה עשיתם לו - בני זונות - עם של מנוולים - מה עשיתם לו?
אתם הייתם מאחורי - למשקורא לבן שלי! מאז שהיה בצבא האמריקאי!
אז בגלל זה הייתם חייבים - לנצל אותו בכל הזדמנות אפשרית!
יש לעם- ישראל תחביב - לקרוא לכל אחד ששונה מהם - לקרוא לו מפגר!
לדעתי אתם המפגרים הכי גדולים -מוצצים את הדם לכולם!
אתם הזונות נעוצים בתחת של כולם -"מוסד" של מפגרים-במיוחד החבדניקים!
הרסתם לי את המשפחה שלי!
sigi9898 6 months ago
@sigi9898 Can you write in English? If, so please post your comment in English for the benefit of those that do.
LeMonde63 5 months ago 62
Sign the Avaaz petition today - we have a few days before the UN meet. Save the children within Palestine - Please, please - we in the UK already support Palestine. avaaz dot com
please keep copying and pasting this so that it stays on top of the comments
mvv10 6 months ago
any war that lasts this long, there is a side that doesn't want resolution, that's common sense
SumNJFella 6 months ago
Just the phrase....."Israel has always been at war".......doesn't that mean anything?.
excavtrooper 6 months ago
unfortunately sad for the children and women over there are
Let them, God help rather, all are suffering in this world,
every religion is love and God will give love
and I am love my BOSNIA$HERZEGOVINA and love is my WORLD
Peace
CukovnicaRijeka 6 months ago
ISRAEL..minority population HUMAN , majority population well might as well devil
MrAdonis258 6 months ago
There are true humans even in Israel! I was always new that there are good Jews! Keep walking dudes! Thumps up!
Peristerygr 6 months ago
ARIEL SHARON = WAR CRIMINAL.
Why is a man, who is so dirty, called ARIEL???
LOL !
Elberiver11 6 months ago
Sharon is a fucking bastard!
Elberiver11 6 months ago
Rabbi Yoel Teitelbaum, Rebbe of Satmar, Hungary, later rabbi of Palestine
רבי יואל טייטלבוים זצ"ל אדמו"ר ואב" ד סאטמאר
If we were to put all the sins of this generation and all the transgressions committed in the entire world on one side of a scale, and the Zionist state on the other side, it would outweigh everything, for it is the poisonous source of the worst defilement, the worst cause of damage in the entire world, and they are ones who defile the entire world
shadowofears 6 months ago
this interview is nearly a decade old now. and nothing's changed. depressing.
notmuchseemsoriginal 6 months ago
love and support for these israeli soldiers of peace, from USA.
sherhak 6 months ago
The coolest guys ever born. Easily. Total props to you, boys....no, excuse me...MEN!
chefshitpiece 7 months ago
they are poor because they don't want to give the land back to israel as soon as they do they will have the benefit schooling and support every israeli citizen has.
OkeenoUnleashed 7 months ago
@OkeenoUnleashed @OkeenoUnleashed wow that sounds soo pretty, unfortunatly israel would never grant palestinians israeli citzenship due to the fact that it wouldmake palestinians the majority in the country. thats what this whole conflict is about,, israel has tried for years thru massive immigration, to raise the jewish population in order to legitamize its illegal presence in occupied Palestine. i would have called your comment stupied but other people got you beat on this board..
sorite007 5 months ago
Al-Jazeera Anchorman Cries for Gaza ( type that of you tube) This is what isreal the promised land is for palistinians people
zakaslam1 7 months ago
Why is this always goverment agenda that is against the majority rule. They hurt others and screw their own people. Not only isreal but all around the world are the goverments acting on a non democratic agenda although promised republic representation. Sigh we are heading for a cross roads ... what is this like the 20th one destined for this century.
redgy7 7 months ago
Hot man alert at 2:30 and at 4:12. Two voices of reason.
Chase Bank is a Nazi Israeli bank, part of the Illuminati banking system. The USA Federal Resereve Bank is a Nazi Israeli Illuminati banking system. They are ripping of Americans with hidden service fees and other financial scams. They are pure Nazis and are financing global enslavement by ripping off customers. They use a blue schwastiks as a logo that is hung out on the front of their buildings.
MostMagnificentOne 7 months ago
More people need to look at what they are doing to fund these scum, sever all ties with the animals killing innocent people.
alexythimia7 7 months ago
These men are to be looked up to and not scorned for their humanity.
empressofthefrench 7 months ago
@ShaggyAce No they are not. You should have these type of individuals running Israel. They have a heart and a conscience. This has made my heart feel good listening to this men. They are very good looking also.
empressofthefrench 7 months ago
3 palstine 3 gaza
BRUMTOWNTRU 7 months ago
No this is true, sure 98% wouldnt care if they killed a Palestinian civilian, but 2% are good normal regular Israeli soldiers will will defend the country but will not oppress and bully others. Have respect for these Israeli soldiers who stand up to their leaders, as they respect your fellow Palestinians. Okay.
hehehe929 8 months ago
hahaha "refusals encourage terrorism" The New World Order evil scumbags are such idiots. Forceful government repression the only thing in the world that encourages terrorism.
Cashify 8 months ago
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hcgdiets0 8 months ago
I'm sure their 'opinion' would had been different if they had loved ones killed by those rock throwin, bomb wearing cowards.
SeaDooize 8 months ago
@SeaDooize While I do not condone suicde bombmers, and I agree they are cowards to target civillians. However, the men who are fighting a so called war against defenseless people in the occupied territories are also cowards. What these guys are saying is that they will not participate in punishing the people as a whole through occupation and oppression.
steute2011 7 months ago 5
If arabs in Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Egypt want to stop losing land they will stop killing Jews. They have already lost so many lives and so much land that it is obvious they have no idea how to fight a war or negotiate peace. They lose every time and they lose big. There is no palestine.
Hamas and Hezbolla = osama bin Laden
zumadog 8 months ago
@zumadog we will lose land, but at the end we will win , god promised us to win and kill the jews..yeah its not a problem to lose life for something you belive in..we are ready to die..this life is for you..we want the next life..
no peace without palestine...
Fantastic3er 7 months ago
@Fantastic3er Hasbara alert.
LeMonde63 7 months ago
@zumadog You are just a racist, sir. Nothing more than it. The Arabs keep losing because Israel has billions and billions of dollars coming from USA and Europe every year while the Arabs are alone.
Their losses are not something to Zionists be proud about but to be ashamed of, because it just shows how coward this war is.
Using all the most modern weapons on the poor people and coutries... WAW What a war hero Israel is! You all are immoral.
DrEliasFirmino 7 months ago 8
@DrEliasFirmino The Arabs may be losing, but not for reasons that you may think.
Google: Secret Wars of the Saudi-Israeli Alliance Global Research
LeMonde63 7 months ago
@DrEliasFirmino so what? isreal is still just pure evil. fuck israel fuck the people and their fucking billions money! SPAIN IS WITH YOU Palestine. may justice be served very soon..
jjuli1221 5 months ago
its many israelis who feel the same way as them Very Brave n Honourable guys too who help the palestinians any way they can but sadly the power elite does not it was Very hard for me at first to accept jewish ppl where doing this to the palestinians the pot calling the Kettle dirty yet again theses guys are Real Hero God bless them n all who stand for justice
polygamous1 8 months ago
It shot her hard. But it's okay, I fight for the Isreali system. nothing wrong with that is it.
Who do you think is really behind this new world order, and who will govern it?
BUBLOOGABLOO 8 months ago
@BUBLOOGABLOO He said shoved...not shot.
LeMonde63 7 months ago 3
@LeMonde63 OMGod! I am so dumb! NOT!
BUBLOOGABLOO 7 months ago
@LeMonde63 Oh you mean shoved her in his pocket? What was she that small? Later on you'll say, no he was talking about a rat - not a human. Just the same way the media tries to twist things around eh? Ridiculous!
BUBLOOGABLOO 7 months ago
@BUBLOOGABLOO Okay.
LeMonde63 7 months ago
@LeMonde63
What does shoving mean?
Raping?
MiracleKD18 7 months ago
@MiracleKD18 Do you not know the difference?
LeMonde63 7 months ago
@BUBLOOGABLOO we should bring back Genghis Kahn or Alexandre the great or Atila the Hun...wat say u?
wolvie041007 7 months ago
The illuminati way: Show a picture of somebody being arrested, say he's a terrorist and all the DUMB HUMANS IN THE WORLD will believe it.
BUBLOOGABLOO 8 months ago
God bless humanity. But not those murdering Israelis because they're animals.
ThaRealBomb 9 months ago
I'm starting to like Jews again. These ones at least.
RayKalmNiam 9 months ago
isreal will be kicked out
kelissosowa 9 months ago 2
this two have balls of steel
Cardan011 9 months ago
Normal qu il refuse faut être droguer pour tirée sur un enfant tout en sachent qu on lui a voler ça terre! Ils agissent comme hitler!!!!
SuperSsefyou 9 months ago
Every dictator in history has proclaimed some variant of: "I am God's chosen instrument and my people are God's chosen people and have the right to kick everyone else's ass." There is no God outside love, peace and brotherhood.
Askimoula 9 months ago
not soldiers = crusades
djromancia98 9 months ago
give the land to Isreal you insolent wankers!!!!!
The jewish people have already had their asses handed too them before (not just the holocaust but even many more examples than that) so why can't you just let them win just this once?
Besides Isreal govt has better human rights and more money than the Palestinian, so the people living their would have a better qualitiy of life anyway
So just give it too isreal
rancidfan39 9 months ago
there was a time when israelis and arabs lived together in this region. Did all this happen in the name of religion?
pacificcapital1 9 months ago
if those people said true.....good for them and i adore them.
maria78h 10 months ago 6
@maria78h No this is true, sure 98% wouldnt care if they killed a Palestinian civilian, but 2% are good normal regular Israeli soldiers will will defend the country but will not oppress and bully others. Have respect for these Israeli soldiers who stand up to their leaders, as they respect your fellow Palestinians. Okay.
hehehe929 8 months ago
These people are in a very difficult position. They know that Israel requires an army to continue its existence. They also can not be part of a repressive occupation. They do not want to be hated by subjugated Palestinians, nor by their angered fellow Israelis.
Englishdosser86 10 months ago 6
@Englishdosser86 If the Israeli people stopped voting for right-wing-ultra-nationlist-hypocritically-religious-fanatics but for people with reason instead and pulled out that rightwing scum from the Westbank and sent those thugs back from where they came (Russia and the USA mostly), there would be some chance of a breakthrough. It would stop the pretence for Arab fanatics to become terrorists and it could bring peace.
Jeansschwimmer 8 months ago
Respect
troopy141 10 months ago
israel never wanted peace,and never will.
AnimAPwn 10 months ago
sharon is a piece of shit. these guys in the vid are HUMANS and have my great respect
andyOsalek 11 months ago 128
@andyOsalek I concur
rms5366 6 months ago
Cowards.
macconnell100 11 months ago
thank you sir
murphymcmurph 11 months ago
I am so impressed with these men who are honorable and humble. Our USA gov never interviews brave and courageous people who speak the truth during a fake war on terror. There are so many outstanding people in Israel, USA, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc, who are DECENT, HONORABLE, NON-VIOLENT. It is our governments that cause all of the problems and try to get us to hate one another. Operation Mockingbird controls the media in USA This was very humbling.
letstalkaboutstuff 11 months ago 49
Our USA government murdered someone named Pat Tillman, while he was serving in Afghanistan. He was an all star athlete football star. Once he was over there he realized it was a lie. He was assassinated and the gov tried to lie about him giving his life for his country and was a hero. Then it all unraveled and came out. Pat Tillman was going to be an anti war activist when he got out and the usa gov would not allow that. Bush & Chaney were responsible for all of it.
letstalkaboutstuff 11 months ago 7
Sure they should serving in the damn ass army , cuz they are occupators ,invadores .
OuchOuchable 11 months ago
Israel must make peace. Israel has no option but to give up land and sue for peace in the long term, it has no friends in the arab public, surrounded from all sides by people who do not want them there. Land stealing was never made as crime in the middle east but what now for Israel? Israel is alive and well, but the Arabs hold the clock, and time is on their side.
takewhole 11 months ago 3
If an Israeli soldier is killed they go and wipe out a whole pile of innocent people.
exposingscams 1 year ago 3
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bradchesney11 1 year ago 5
Jews are being hated for so many things these days, I'm so glad these Jewish soldiers have the courage to find alternatives. Thanks so much for posting- I've played music with such fine Jewish musicians who aren't militant at all.
doris780 1 year ago
good men :) glad at least not all Israelis are heartless motherfuckers with no humanity who kill kids!
i hope there will be more men in there army like this
danaVampGirl 1 year ago 3
Awesome vid and message.
Check out my anti-war vids with original percussion and poetry at: tyaossey.
tyaossey 1 year ago
Gooood!!!! isrealians must to stop to be the slaves of the Rochilds and friends. BE FREE
KailisJuan 1 year ago
Avigdor Lieberman born Evet Lvovich Liberman is a Soviet-born Israeli politician. He is the founder and leader of the Yisrael Beiteinu party, whose electoral base are the immigrants from the former Soviet Union, Lieberman is typical of the type of person that has invaded Palestine, delusional fantasist, arrogant, bigoted neo-fascist, and corrupt gangster, he represents the true face of Israel.
TheCountBernadotte1 1 year ago
SiNaoia 1 year ago 4
"When I shoot a man, or anybody else its only because I do so to survive.. stay alive..have to stop the rockets from pouring inside, look in my eyes, like a lion I fight for Zion... fight for Zion, until the day I die until there's no more reason to cry. My land, my City of David, Jerusalem Footstool of Elohim, one day to be freed of Radical Muslims, So Richie Rich and all can hate, Jewish Land, Zion, eternal like Heaven's Gate." Sugarhitman
sugarhitman 1 year ago
450 is so admirable and I love those Soldiers who have a heart & humanity... God Bless you all...
We need all of the Zionist Israeli's to WAke UP and see the evil that their government is forcing upon their citizens...
Their souls are being corrupt by their very own country... these soldiers have a conscience and they might be numb now... but when they are alone this will haunt them... where will the ZioNAZI Israeli government be than????
SiNaoia 1 year ago 2
Palesinian`s Victory was written that day when First Israeli Soldier refused to Serve in Palestine..Long Live Independent Palestine.
ahmedjobz 1 year ago
So there are good Jews:) may Allah help them to the right path
YacobProduction 1 year ago
Iran will losse the war.. !!Viva Israel The Gods people.!!!!! Will gonna win this war with Iran because is all Write..in The Holly Bible The Book of Life...our Father is with Israel don.t worryy..Israel 10 milions--- arabsmuslims 800 milions...but Israel will win the war because is all write..!!Viva Israel Amin.
spynu85 1 year ago
@spynu85...hello my young retarded friend...you seem a bit on the crazy side...how's beeing a brainwashed nutjob?
MrSL77 1 year ago
@spynu85 doesn't torah said not to make isreal without the messiah, that is your jewish boopk saying not to make the country without God's says o, is brittish and german nazi God??? You guys can;t even follow your own book, how are zionist jews gonna foollwo laws like regular people, they are not, that have no consience
FoziaAbdi 1 year ago
Good. This is genocide. The genocide Israel fosters in Darfur, then turns away the refugees which enter its country. Genocide was first recorded in the Torah, perpetrated by the Biblical Chosen. It is a game. They commit genocide and yet insist that they are the sole victims of genocide (except for Darfur). Sudan is a means to destabilize a region so as to gain entry into Egypt. They have done well--I hope their days are numbered.
N8H8able 1 year ago
4:37 HOW THE HELL DO YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT, WHEN YOU BRING SO MUCH HORROR!?!?!?
Isaac1DK 1 year ago
These people are heroes. Following orders is easy, it takes true strength of character to tell your own country they are wrong.
Mithrall 1 year ago
Respect to these guys, I know Islamic Terrorism is a major problem but there is SO much wrong about the Israel's actions in the occupied territories!
DavidL999 1 year ago
"Our presence their simply casues an imposibble situation for a normal life" Can it be said any clearer than that? Get the hell out and go back to land you should be gratefull to have.
I have to admit this is all news to me, even if its 8 years old. What happend with the movement?
Noeldiego 1 year ago
Israel
Has Created 4 million+ Refugees
Holds World's record for UN Violations at 69+, Killed more innocent civilians per capita than any other country 50,000,
Has Imprisoned more civilians per cap 250,000 , Rendered more civilians Handicapped per cap 50,000
Demolished more homes than any other country 60,000+
Outlawed marriage to Non-Jews, Destroyed 350 Christian Churches & Mosques
6 Wars in 60 years
254 km of Apartheid Wall, 562 Check Points & Ethnically cleansed 531 villages
StSimonMartyr 1 year ago
thumbs up to these guys and their moral resolve.
szametha 1 year ago 216
@szametha these men are heroes to hell with Bush and his Ilk
ahmad3652 1 year ago
@szametha Watch out , this is setup , there is no israeli soldier refuses to kill palestinian people !
MrRevolution53 10 months ago
@MrRevolution53 No israeli refuses to kill Palestinian people? Soo your telling us they love killing them. Which is true on the count of the THOUSANDS they kill and humiliate everyday.
BintFalastine93 9 months ago
פלסטין אינשאללה יהיה בחינם. העולם עומד לצד העם הפלסטיני עד שאנחנו פלסטין החופשית. אלוהים עמכם את העם הפלסטיני. אלוהים הוא הגדול ביותר.
BASSELILAIAN 8 months ago
god bless the soldiers that stood up, stay strong...
pm56321 1 year ago
The bruette guy is cute and obviously good hearted.
lillybellebutterfly1 1 year ago
it is nice to see a true jewish pearson
mrsheen72 1 year ago
Actually I hate judes but for this less judes I have high respect. Unfortunately there are not much of them in israel. Most judes are not like this
nicki452 1 year ago
except that israhell's army is already an army of occupation.....israhell was founded on terrorism
UFCMania98 1 year ago
Yeah buddy, that "feeling of what you were doing wrong" is what God instinctivly put inside every single human being. Well done for not ignoring it.
Perseveranze 1 year ago
they simply didn't want to participate in this crimes >>> cuz Zionist entity based on crimes and stealing
AMAZONvsPYT 1 year ago
Thumbs up to those two soldiers!! May God Bless them for taking such challenging decisions.. May God guide them and the rest of the soldiers who participated in it, towards the Truth!
MaryamMowjood 1 year ago
Sharon is a terrorist, a ruthless military man and a racist. He has no qualms about wiping out unarmed civilians. He is in the same league as Hitler, Pol Pot and Stalin.
AccordGTR 1 year ago
I COMMEND THESE SOLDIERS ,,,, I love God fearing people and these soldiers are no exceptions !!!
sophie00000075 1 year ago
What the FUCK is Israel doing to their kids ? Sending boys and girls who should be hanging at the mall to war . What the FUCK is Israel doing to Palestinians ? What a sick FUCKED up country it is to let school children write taunts to Palestinian school children on FUCKING bombs and missiles that are going to kill and maim them .
MrWontBeFooledAgain 1 year ago
That solider is a good Person... He a member of the Reieistie of the NWOR good for him.
TheSuburbanTechnique 1 year ago
i support and respect these israeli soldiers. true moral courage. God bless you.
sherhak 1 year ago
@TheLoveoflebanon First he said, "I shot her and moved on." Then he said, "I shoved her. I shoved her hard." I think he was having problem with English. "Shot" and "shove" are similar.
DCFunBud 1 year ago
IDF airforce leader eliezer shkedi succeeded in bringing terrorist to civilian casualty ratio down in gaza to 29:1 (LOWEST CIVILIAN CASUALTY RATIO IN THE HISTORY OF WARARE!) Source: Pinpoint Attacks on Gaza More Precise, Haaretz, Amos Harel, 30/12/07
Hamas official: "For the Palestinian people, death has become an industry, at which women excel.. elderly excel at this, & so do the mujahideen and the children. This is why they have formed human shields of the women, the children, the elderly.."
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 The "quote" that you describe is reported to be from the Hamas official, Fathi Hammad. It was disseminated by MEMRI (The Middle East Media Research Institute). MEMRI was founded by Israelis and former members of Israeli intelligence. MEMRI is notorious for its mistranslations of Arabic to English. Who benefits from these mistranslations? Google the following for answers:
Selective Memri Brian Whitaker
Colonel Yigal Carmon
MEMRI mistranslation Mickey Mouse
LeMonde63 1 year ago
Some Jewish extremists you won't read much about from MEMRI:
RABBI OVADIA YOSEF, the spiritual leader of the Israeli Congress' Shas Party, THE ISRAELI DEFENSE FORCES RABBINATE, RABBI YITZHAK SHAPIRA, and MANIS FRIEDMAN
Google:
IDF Rabbinate Publication Rabbi Shlomo Aviner Operation Cast Lead
How to Kill Goyim and Influence People: AlterNet
Rabbi Ovadia Yosef Palestinians
Rabbi Ovadia Yosef Goyim
Chabad rabbi: Jews should kill Arab men, women and children during war
LeMonde63 1 year ago
Radical left pacifists. probably belong to some organization and being paid.
Sad people who represent maybe less then 0.1% of the israeli public.
shining3210 1 year ago
@TheLoveoflebanon He didn't kill the old lady. He shoved her in a rough manner.
LeMonde63 1 year ago
450 that need to go to jail
twowhores 1 year ago
its not just a case of "more palestinian deaths" (most from hamas). 1st its a matter of approach, when i was a child there it was during a time that palestinians were grabbing children from their mothers in the street&stabbing them. meanwhile a commander i knew went to court bcoz he shot a palestinian that threw a molotov cocktail at him&turned to run, the bullet entered thru the guy's back so the commander was charged for shooting an unarmed person trying to escape- IDF protocol in practice
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 Are there any news reports available to "Google" that mention the incidents of child stabbings? Did you know that violence is being committed by Israelis on Palestinians with little or no consequences? Israel supports the Jewish only colonies in Palestine where many Jewish terrorists (Kahanists) live and where much of the violence is propagated. Google: Israeli Settler Violence
GOOGLE: Israelis and Palestinians Killed since 9/29/2000
GOOGLE: IDF uses children human shields
LeMonde63 1 year ago
@LeMonde63 did u know arabs who choose to live peacefully with jews r israeli citizens with full equal rights? did u know they hav more rights there than in any arab state? did u know hamas use their own children as human shields, also send them to blow themselves up in israeli schools etc. (their OWN children, just to kill jewish kids). did u know israel's civilian-terrorist casualty ratio during their last counter-attack in gaza was 1:29 (LOWEST CIVILIAN CASUALTY RATIO IN HISTORY OF WARFARE)
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 I have heard these statements so many times that I frequently ponder if there is some kind of "Hasbara" handbook with lists of "facts" to repeat to the (uninformed) public.
Non-Jews do not have the same rights as Jews in Israel. I have documented this in two videos.
Citizenship Laws:
watch?Es3iuovW6RM
Land Laws:
watch?v=uTZNXcElz8c
This has also been widely reported in the media.
Google: Sephardi Israeli Discrimination
Google: Arab Israeli Discrimination
LeMonde63 1 year ago
@oc00011 As far as Hamas and the "Human Shields" meme, Israel has never conclusively proved these allegations. Numerous human rights organizations (and more) have found evidence that Israel DOES use Palestinians as human shields. Read facts 13 and 14 in the following report about the use of human shields by Googling:
Goldstone Report Commission: Read the allegations Global Research
LeMonde63 1 year ago
Here are a few more.
Google:
Israel's 14 yr old bomber stunt backfires SOTT
Why Does Hamas Use Human Shields and Other Lies Hasbarists Told Me Silverstein
Amnesty International Gaza civilians endangered by the military tactics of both sides
Palestinians painted as animals while Israel goes scot-free
Operation Cast Lead, 27 Dec. '08 to 18 Jan. '09 BT'selem
Amnesty International Israel/Gaza: Operation "Cast Lead": 22 days of death and destruction
LeMonde63 1 year ago
@LeMonde63 research real human rights org's like 'UN Watch', not agenda-driven political games from groups like UNHRC. check: palestinians' aim to commit a genocide of the jews [palestinian media, al aqsa tv, hamas charters etc.], 85.3% of palestinian population support killing israeli children [PCPSR, 2008], 75.6% support terrorism against israeli civilians [JMCC, 2003], 65% support al-qaeda actions against USA & europe [Fafo, 2005], 61.3% support targeting civilians [OPSSC an-najah uni, 2006]
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 UN Watch is not a human rights organization. It is an NGO created, "...to monitor the performance of the United Nations by the yardstick of its own Charter..." It is affiliated with the American Jewish commitee and is a part of the Israeli Hasbara Commitee. UN Watch's founder is an honorary member of the AJC.
Amnesty international and BT' Selem are not "real" human rights organizations?
LeMonde63 1 year ago
@oc00011 I forgot to mention that the International Red Cross also reported Israeli "violations" during Cast lead. /watch?v=IopjMpu9aVo
Israel's Likud Charter is similar to the Hamas Charter. There's been virtually no media acknowledgement about how Netanyahu's political party in Israel refuses the right of Palestine to exist or Likud's claims to the right to build the Jewish-only Colonies in the West Bank.
LeMonde63 1 year ago
@oc00011 What do the terrorists in the colonies and extremist Israeli officials (Avigdor Lieberman) and clergy have to say about Arabs? There is hatred on both sides. The difference is Israel is supported with billions of dollars and just as many excuses for this abhorrent behavior and attitude. They are also militarily occupying and controlling the Gaza ghetto and the West Bank.
LeMonde63 1 year ago
@oc00011 Of course, Israel insists it does not condone killing and harming civilians, while it kills and harms civilians by the tens of thousands and destroys civilian facilities, homes and infrastructure that make human survival possible.
Google: in place of fear a tale of two charters
Avigdor Lieberman Racist
IFAMERICANSKNEW
I have read the poll reports itemized on the Zionist Organization of America's Website (October,2010).
LeMonde63 1 year ago
@oc00011 Why are the Palestinians so hostile? This is rarely addressed. We are told that Muslim terrorists are attacking the defenseless Israelis just for being Jewish. Maybe one day, more of us will know Israel's own history of terrorism, the Zionist's founder's plans of forced "population transfer" to "make way" for the Europeans and Western Jews and the modern day extremists and religious fanatics who serve in the Israeli government and military today.
LeMonde63 1 year ago
@LeMonde63 lol how twisted. religious fanatics in israeli government today hav almost 0 political power! its a coalition, & don't forget even the first ever modern zionists e.g. (the founder) herzl were athiests. "population transfer" was an idea adopted by the far right of zionist groups, a very small minority, whereas 'hagana' (vast majority) wanted to live in equality, co-existence, in the same land with the 'indigenous jews&arabs' (='palestinian' before the 1960s). i welcome more questions.
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 I don't doubt that most Jews wanted to live in peace and security. Wasn't that the stated goal of Zionism? Why do you think Palestinians won't accomodate the Israelis and just move out to any Arab country? Based on research of declassified Israeli documents, it is now known that David Ben-Gurion, Israel's first Prime Minister, supported population transfer. Do you think Ben-Gurion was representative of a small minority of Jews?
LeMonde63 1 year ago
@oc00011 It seems that even Herzl, "the father of political Zionism", was a traitorous representative of the Jewish people. I think the Jewish people (like Muslims) are collectively being "setup".
Google: David Ben-Gurion population transfer diary
The Maps tell the true story
Atzmon: The Anti-Semitic Side of Zionism
LeMonde63 1 year ago
@LeMonde63 david ben gurion, on the contrary, tried to persuade the arabs to stay, but they still refused in fear of being judged as traitors to the arab cause. the population transfer quote is a forgery. in tiberias and haifa the haganah issued orders that none of the arabs' possessions should be touched, & warned that anyone who violated the orders would be severely punished. despite these efforts, all but about 5,000 arabs evacuated haifa. u want the sources for this?
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 The quotes about Gurion's views of population transfer come from declassified Zionist documents and Gurion's diary entries archived in Israel at the Gurion library. Israeli researchers such as Benny Morris, Ilan Pappe, Tom Segev and Simha Flapan and others have written extensively about this. I see...the Haganah protected the Arab's property and punished the Jewish-European colonists and Irgun members who violated these orders.
LeMonde63 1 year ago
@oc00011 Operation Bi'ur Hametz, Hebrew for "Passover Cleaning" was the name of the operation in Haifa. What was being cleansed? Yes, the Jewish leadership said they wanted the Arabs to stay, they just didn't want them to come back after the fighting was over, when it was safe to do so. Even Arabs in current day Israel that left their homes for whatever reason but stayed in the country were absurdly labeled, "Present Absentees".
LeMonde63 1 year ago
@oc00011 Considering the massacres and rumors of Zionist atrocities (like Deir Yassin) that preceded the occupation of Haifa, I don't blame them for fleeing.
Google: Zionist terrorism
Operation Bi'ur Hametz
LeMonde63 1 year ago
@LeMonde63 deir yassin was of course a tragedy, no normal person wud be proud of that event. but no, the reason for many if not most of palestinians fleeing was under pressure from arab state leaders who assured them they will return soon once they "drive all the jews to the sea".
oc00011 1 year ago
@LeMonde63 "I see...the Haganah protected the Arab's property and punished the Jewish-European colonists and Irgun members who violated these orders."
yes. u want the sources? ..& jewish-european colonists were a small unpopular minority of the zionist movement, which predominantly strived for co-existence with arabs in the same land.. partition didn't go as planned bcoz of arab refusal.
i hope u will post all these comments i'm sending u, i haven't insulted u, no reason for censorship
oc00011 1 year ago
@LeMonde63 "an army order issued July 6, 1948, made clear that arab towns and villages were not to be demolished or burned, and that arab inhabitants were not to be expelled from their homes". there were of course exceptions to this, where some jews did attempt to expel arabs, but that accounted for a very small population of the total arab population that fled - most fled on their own accord, in fear from the pressure given by militant arab factions, not to agree to a truce with the jews.
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 I see...in 1948 it was announced that the Arabs and their property was to be protected by the Israelis. They fled because the Arab leadership told them to do so, in spite of the the security and reassurance the Zionist's offered. I have heard this repeatedly by Israeli Hasbarists despite what Israeli researchers such as Benny Morris, Ilan Pappe, Tom Segev and Simha Flapan and others have discovered in declassified Israeli and British archives.
LeMonde63 1 year ago
In 2010, the West Bank Palestinians are suffering a similar fate of displacement. Little has changed, in this respect.
LeMonde63 1 year ago
@LeMonde63 of course lieberman's racist he's insane, disrespected & disreputed in israeli society. like BNP are 'spat on' by most of the english. does nick griffin offer a accurate representation of english culture? no, no more than lieberman can represent zionists/israelis. u heard of the other many types of zionist policies? socialist humanitarian types? capitalist realist types? mix of the two? religious, athiest.. sources show both gandhi & martin luther king were pro-zionist! i mean come on
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 Griffin's BNP party has no seats in the English Parliament. I think that Lieberman knows exactly what he is doing. He is Israel's Deputy Prime Minister. He is also Minister of Foreign Affairs, and as such represents all Israelis when he is meeting with governments in other countries. I agree that not all Jews are like Lieberman or Prime Minister Netanyahu and the Likudniks.
LeMonde63 1 year ago
However, as Netanyahu's Likud and Yisrael Beiteinu's Lieberman are currently in high (elected) positions as the second and third largest political parties, respectively, they are a reflection of Israel. I doubt that Gandhi would approve of Israel today, based on his stated views. I could only find a hoaxed letter attributed to King about his views on Zionism. I don't think MLK would presently support Israel.
Google: Martin Luther King, Jr Zionist letter hoax
Gandhi Israel quote
LeMonde63 1 year ago
@LeMonde63 its the core principle of zionism that gandhi approved of - jews as self-determined people. in other words, israel's right to exist, something palestinian leaders always refuse to acknowledge. regarding the rising centrist-rightwing political views of israelis in recent yrs, its unavoidable when considering the number of decades with left wing israeli government repeatedly striving for peace agreements- with responses of huge upsurges of violence evrytime directed at israeli civilians
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 I have yet to see Israelis allow Palestinians the same self-determination that they demand for theselves. When there has been cooperation in the West Bank, the Palestinians get Jewish-only colonies and roads and religious extremists destroying and rampaging with weapons given to them by the Israeli government.
LeMonde63 1 year ago
@oc00011 Gandhi said: "...Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French. It is wrong and in-human to impose the Jews on the Arabs. What is going on in Palestine today cannot be justified by any moral code of conduct..."
LeMonde63 1 year ago
@LeMonde63 "Gandhi said"...
Gandhi's Collected Works, Vol 74 (1938)
"Why should the Jews not, like other peoples of the earth, make that country their home where they are born and where they earn their livelihood?"
are you going to approve my comments or not? as it currently seems that u decide to censor my right of freedom of speech bcoz it conflicts with ur views, & not bcoz of any abusive language
oc00011 1 year ago
@LeMonde63 "I have yet to see Israelis allow Palestinians the same self-determination that they demand for theselves."
'land for peace' deals include 1947, 1993, 1999, 2000, 2007.. including deals that wud give palestinians sovereignty over much of jerusalem, 97% of west bank & 100% of gaza. palestinians responded with upsurges of violence directed at israeli civilians.
ask urself why palestinians didn't protest violently as they do now, when they were under jordanian & egyptian rule!
oc00011 1 year ago
@LeMonde63 israels finance support?palestinians "receive more aid per capita than any other country" [middle east quarterly, summer'08]. so Y they hav 3000 rockets to kill civilians, but their people hav no food? coz of israel? aid: $2500 monthly pay to marwan barghouti who murdered 26 israelis [source: 'international financial aid to the palestinian authority redirected to terrorist elements'], $1.5m villa for mahmoud abbas [NY times2/2/97], $22m annual pay to arafat's wife [NY times12/11/04]
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011
I see... the starving Gazans are all Arafat's, Hamas' and Abbas' fault.
Google: SOTT Israeli Government Documents Show Deliberate Policy To Keep Gazans At Near-starvation Levels
Aid to Israel
watch?v=ssGZiADiw10
LeMonde63 1 year ago
@LeMonde63 the impoverished gazans is not Only bcoz of PLO, hamas etc. (altho it is mainly bcoz of them). no doubt that israel's counter-attacks hav contributed to this situation but it can't be ignored that the level of corruption in every palestinian governing body since beginning of time has cared much more about investing in weapons to kill israeli civilians than the well being of their own people, not to mention their stinking rich officials with huge villas & other luxuries.
oc00011 1 year ago
@oc00011 Yes, you have already stated this. and I replied, "I see, the starving (and dead) Gazans are all Arafat's, Hamas' and Abbas' fault."
LeMonde63 1 year ago