Dog Brothers - Crafty Dog

[Frequent2001]

is that what the style is based on? some kind of full contact grappling and stick fighting at the same time?

[limabeing]

i want in but i live up in canada

[Frequent2001]

@limabeing actually, i saw a school that had that style listed in, it was at montrealmartialarts dawt com .. they don't list it on their new site, it seems it became more MMA based, but still it might be a good idea to call them up

[dacreepa2]

garage martial artist´s

[Leguankotze]

4:11 1000 years of pain

[mashaode]

zu Geil!

[hoz49]

Have the Dog Brothers ever brought an Escrima Master over from the Philippines? I am just wondering how their wild swinging style would fare against a true Practitioner from the home country.

[bmecher]

@hoz49 descended from Inosanto. and Crafty has been to PI to learn from other masters as well. Old Dog has learned from Thai masters. Form does get prtty squirley when you have a non-cooperating target. That is their purpose with this stuf- learn what works when the target is doing his own thing.

[ElCativo]

@hoz49 This "wild swinging" is to hide attacks.

Like "fake" attacks.. And the DBMA Instructors are mostly teached (masters,instructors) in other styles. Like Panantukan, Escrima, Kali, Krabi Krabong and and....

And all they get together and learning from each other to see, what REALLY works!

[KiviZ]

@hoz49 that kind of "who will win" thinking is kinda far from the thing

[hoz49]

@KiviZ Not to step on your preconceived notions, but where has anything about "win" been mentioned?

[PotterSuccess]

I find that, if all martial arts did not do any sparring, then it is more like chi gong(for healthiness) than self-defense or anything else

[thefuturefighter]

This is submission fighting just as UFC but more dangerous because of the stick factor.

I believe UFC type fights are the most realistic empty hand and

this stick fighting is the most realistic weapons fights.

The only true or real fight is street fight.

No protection & no rules.

If anyone has vidoes of any fighting that is currently more realistic than Dog brothers text me.

[Ebuverthebicepcurler]

The only true fight is war, anything less is fake, even if its dangerous.

[thefuturefighter]

A street fight..if it is not a war then what is it.

[thefuturefighter]

wher I come from it is a war. I dont know about other countries.

[Ebuverthebicepcurler]

What a mean is the idea its just a one on one fight isnt realistic, it doesnt happen unless both agree on it. Honorable fighting= unrealistic.  And I mean to show how raw a fight is doesnt prove its worth- instead its the challenge that makes it worthwhile. MMA may not be real, but the rules are mostly there to keep the match exciting- in reality we'd have long 4hr grappling matches like that had in Brazil in the old days.

[thefuturefighter]

your english is not very good but I'll take it we are agreeing somewhere and disagreeing somewhere..

[Ebuverthebicepcurler]

Excuse me, i really was in a hurry at the time. One on one fighting isn't common in the real world, so in many ways it isn't realistic to practice it at all. Reality is guns and groups of guerrilla fighters, meeting one on one involves an agreement of a sort, and isnt natural. Hopefully I've cleared myself.

[thefuturefighter]

gothcha

[hockey91ninjawarrior]

@Ebuverthebicepcurler Your telling me a one on one fight ins't common in the real world? What about the innocent girl walking home who gets mugged by some low life? That immediatly become a 1v1 fight. Or how about someone who breaks in your house? The possibilities are endless, regardless these same 1v1 tactics are going to be useful in a fight with multiple people

[Ebuverthebicepcurler]

@hockey91ninjawarrior It's not that 1 on 1 doesn't happen often so much as a fair fight where both fights know they are going to fight doesn't happen. Yes, the techniques work, I've seen numerous videos to support that. If I argued otherwise I guess I hadn't been convinced at the time.

[bmecher]

@Ebuverthebicepcurler

Check out thier website, you'll learn a little more about what they are about. There is something on there about 360 awareness and bilateral training to handle multiples.

[hoz49]

@Ebuverthebicepcurler I would add "anything less is masterbation".

[Jank143]

Dog Brothers= dog SHIT!

[scdefion]

There you are again running your mouth. If these guys are fake then you fight them and fuck em up. Like I said bring your ass to SC and we'll do it here. Guns , knives , sticks empty hands , swords whatever you internet pussy. Remember pussy the ultimate answer to disrespect is the blade!

[yougot2bekiddinme123]

scdefion - "the answer to disrespect is the blade" - - Grand Tuhon Leo T. Gaje Jr.

hahaha...that's awesome man! There's nothing fake about FMA. And I guarantee there's nothing fake about the Dogbrothers!!! Peace brother.

[scdefion]

Well Thanks ! As I told shinzu I got tired of that punk talking junk and decided to to shut him up . Dog Brothers and Gabe Suarez are as real as it gets without being life and death. Anyone who isnrt willing to get in there and bang must STFU ! Woof!

[shinzu4001]

It's an easy thing to talk big from your living room.

[scdefion]

well jank has a bad habit of talking shit about the dog brothers for no apparent reason and I think if you want to talk shit be prepared to back it up. I am prepared and willing to do so , no talk needed . We can do it anytime ,unless he is willing to retract his statements he has made in numerous places on the web. These guys are masters at what they do and you should respect those that came before and paved the way. He is NO warrior.

[Godsmasher22]

denny took that guys soul at 1:50 there abouts. Smooth.

[whish01]

All credit to these guys - and to Dog Brothers - full on in the ring best of mates outside.

[sosmosis]

its not a sport, so why you call it unsportsmanlike when... its not a sport.

Your realy smart

[pow3rtr1p]

I know this is supposed to be real and everything, but stabbing the guy in the head after his mask has come off, and that portion where he's stabbing for the groin when they're on the ground, that's just bad sportsmanship.

[hipnogood]

would you call your attacker a bad sport in the "real world"? These guys are there to learn what they have inside them. It is a personal test and they want their opponent to go all out. Otherwise whats the point?

[acccrew01]

agreeeeeeeeee they dont use rules, but they have an honor system, and that shit the guy without the shirt is doing is WAY over the limit.

[smoothisfast]

I miss going through this kind of environment. Even something close to it...

a rattan cane in Quiapo - apprx Php60

a fencing mask - apprx Php3,500

mustering enough courage to participate in a stickfight to find out who you really are -

PRICELESS

[Striders78]

Well put.

[MacdaddyX25]

dude i got my rattan cane in carriedo for

php30!

....being ripped off?

[socdublin]

i appreciate this but i do think that it should be against the rules to drive the stick into your opponents throat and push it in like that guy just did there...its not cool...gaugeing and poling isnt really fighting

[sgtmac46]

WTF is 'gaugeing and poling' and why isn't it 'real fighting'?

[cincybell]

WOULD

[costaclear]

These guys are simply monkeys with sticks they really dont know how to fight are all...

[GMNives]

And your a faggot with a keyboard. Learn to proof read. You'll go a long way, dolt.

[marcosfenrir]

Please explain why.

[sgtmac46]

Why don't we see you at the next Dog Brothers gathering so you can show these guys how to 'fight'....tough guy. ;)

[hipnogood]

actually these guys showed quite a bit of technique. You can't stay pretty when it goes down to the wire. A real fight is never what anyone thinks it is going to be. "Shit Happens" is the only thing you can count on.

[MARKCHAOS]

you know to really determine whose good in stick fighting, remove those gear and show your skills remove those paddings in your knees and elbow then we will know whose really tough.... fighting with those pads and head gear will limit the power of the stick towards the opponent by that means you are degrading arnis or kali... "HIGHER CONSCIOUSNESS?" bullshit!!! but the founder ware pads... youre a joke!!!!

[varmintklr1]

The pads worn are to protect the other guy from being cut by elbow strikes and knee strikes not to protect yourself. The head gear is obvious, a blow to the head from 32 ounces of rattan can mame, blind or kill somebody. It's counter productive to kill or do serious bodily harm to someone in a friendly competition just so that you can spend the rest of your life in jail for manslaughter. Your always welcome to go to the camp and challenge any member in your weight class.

[MARKCHAOS]

if that so why not wear proper gear?? whats that for is it just to show that you are a tougher guy? than those who wear pads and protective gear... a true kali practitioner will not most likely end up in grappling or in the ground... again remove those pads or wear proper protective gear... i dont have to go there, i have witness myself a real kali fight and it was just in a matter of sec..

[toolworks]

Because these guys arent insane far east pain lovers.

They are not willing to cut up their entire body in sparring, just to prove they are strong, or to get used to a pain factor.

[varmintklr1]

I have trained with Marc Deny and he is one of the best escrima instructors I have met. Spend a few days training with him. His techniques are innovative and take escrima to a new level. It was not 4 days of bashing eachother. It was 4 days of PRACTICAL instruction. You will be a better person/fighter if you take the time to meet Marc in person and soak up what he has to teach you.

[MARKCHAOS]

you know to really determine whose good in stick fighting, remove those gear and show your skills remove those paddings in your knees and elbow then we will know whose really tough.... fighting with those pads and head gear will limit the power of the stick towards the opponent by that means you are degrading arnis or kali... "HIGHER CONSCIOUSNESS?" bullshit!!! but the founder ware pads... youre a joke!!!!

[TexasTexan2]

The down to true martial artist is if you get hurt aka arm Broke etc. that will set back your trianing for months ,,thats why i think this stuff is more food for your ego than anything else when your hurt you cant train period ,,only skilled stick fighters should do this with a slightly less chance of injury my 2 cents

[crimepayshart]

Unless you test your skills, you don't know the extent of your skills. Any true martial artist should try his/her skills out to the fullest at least once.

Injuries and training- It happens. You try to limit your injuries as best as possible, but they are going to happen.

[MARKCHAOS]

you know to really determine whose good in stick fighting, remove those gear and show your skills remove those paddings in your knees and elbow then we will know whose really tough.... fighting with those pads and head gear will limit the power of the stick towards the opponent by that means you are degrading arnis or kali... "HIGHER CONSCIOUSNESS?" bullshit!!! but the founder ware pads... youre a joke!!!!

[EvilMuffin200]

I'd LOVE to see you do that. Please, post a video of you doing full contact stick fighting with no mask.

I'll be very much amused.

[hipnogood]

not everyone had elbow or knee pads. What they meant by higher consciousness was that now they know if their technique is effective. They know what needs work and they can feel the difference in technique because it is live. The mask is just to protect the teeth and sometimes the face still gets cut.

[gladrinx]

this is the stupidest thing ive seen in my entire life, Pansy Fighting, join UFC NEWBS

[Suboloc]

This is the same group the UFC determined was too extreme.

Go fight in a gathering and see how you fair :)

[Jonobos]

Oh you are in the UFC then?

Go sign up for the next gathering. Make sure you record your fights so we can all laugh at you.

[chodykumbra]

have you ever grappled with tasers before??

Have you ever broken someones knee cap in half??

Do you knife spar on the regular??

ohh you dont spar two on twos or train Correctional officers military and swat.. NO NO NO NO and no ohh than maybe you should shut the fuck up.

[BillKipp]

Mark, Good to see you still at it brother. You are still a stud! Bill Kipp - FAST Defense - Former RMCAT Chief Instructor

[captainknockout]

TAE KWON DO!

[HARVEY086]

Yaw-Yan (Dance Of Death)..the other filipino martial art..check it out!!

[wowawe69]

wow! he almost kill that guy...

[MMAdrummer]

One of my dad's friends went to one of these events. He got pretty hurt but he won all his matches.

[YLVES]

i want to spar with that guy no protection just a padded stick.

[drnostress]

It is not so hard, just go out and do it!

(Brasa Stockholm)

[madturkfy]

hey this guy is good not a fag! just not the way l wanna learn on a daily basis!

[Julie47]

i want to learn like this fag

[madturkfy]

dog brothers are very good!! but who wants to learn the way they teach by wacking the stick over your head 80 miles per hour!!

[addict74]

Dog brothers are the shit!