@samsondifferent, of course not. God loves all sinners. If He didn't, He probably wouldn't hate sin as He does. Think about it, if He didn't love us, what would He care if we sinned? He loves sinners, hates sin.
God is not added dimensions.God is not complex but simplicity of all oneness.All threes are not one in things or entitys. Except God is One in three revelations of the same. Ravi is saying there is unity and diversity in the trinity.There is only unity spoken and revealed in three distinct Persons of the same.There is never diversity in trinity in virtue or attribute.God is not three therefore a better added dimension of Person.God is One.Each Person reveals distinct same virtue and attribute.
It's painful to watch the contortions this man is going through to justify a defunct idea. Why can't Christians just admit that the Trinity is a self-contradicting mess? The human ability for self-delusion boggles the mind.
God is not an addition of dimensions God is not better by being three distinct Persons.The secret of God is His Oneness immeasurable without human understanding for unity. But not by multiplication but by three being One.Ravi is suggesting diversity and addition in the Oneness of God there is no diversity in God though three distinct beings that is the secret of God such immeasurable Oneness
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Its been 3 days since the last time you responed to me.
"Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs" (4:171)
The Trinity is vague and mysterious doctrine that was formulated during the fourth century.
Most "Arab-Christians" (btw, no such thing exists, ones race and religion are separate, there is no "German Buddhist".
Most use a Persian (Farsi) substitute instead of "Allah" to not be confused with Paganism.
And in some sense Jesus>God because not all three persons of God have two natures, as evident by God's Word, the Father and Holy Spirit have never incarnated and have remained eternal within their form called Spirit.
The equation God>Jesus can also be correct, as only the Father knows
Actually I'm Jewish. I lure Christians (and with this video Muslims) into the comments to then speak with and usually debate them.
I don't think an Arabic-speaking cross worshiper would have any difficulty understanding "Jesus is greater than Allah", since many Arabic Christians do not use Allah to refer to the Christian deity, but rather the god of the Qur'an. Instead, they use a substitute.
The moon god of mecca; allah, Is just a part of Islam's sub-Christian cult. If Mohammed knew that the Injil and Towrah were Truth (people of the Book) then he violated Galatians 1:6-9 which shows that he is contradictory. And since allah can't decide between the Meccan and Medinan periods as to what to do with the Jews and Christians....he isn't all-knowing then is he? Besides NO muslim can actually indicate where the Bible was "twisted" because it didn't happen.
@creationcamp When was the bible created? just because someone decided to compile some literature to unite a pagan nation does not mean that it is Holy book. The fact that when Jesus PBUH came and argued with the Jews about what was with them is proof that it was being distorted. and you can ignore history all you want but even Paul and Peter were not on the same accord. there were differences in there practice.
@creationcamp You cannot tell me that the group that was used to compile the bible not being followers of the teachings of Jesus PBUH had the best intentions when creating this book.
@creationcamp The bible brought on the dark ages and the Quran brought the Golden ages. Also followers of the Towrah were as far stretched as South-Africa which science proves today along with the Jews of Ethiopia. And if i worship the moon god then you hide pagan ritual and artifact who erect false idols are surely sun god worshipers
@Kite208 You need to read your history again kite208 and stop watching Acmed Deeda and Shabrie Ally, why not try read with a open mind and heart some real Christian literature, what have you got to loss?
I am a Jew who believes God has created every human being, knit them together in their mother's womb and gave them life. I obviously then accept that God loves all of His creation, and He can not be around sin, thus he hates the sin. Not the individual. If I said to the contrary, I'd be a muslim.
Do you not understand the context which that is in? He is telling the Hebrews/Israelites NOT TO WORSHIP OTHER gods! So what if he phrased it that way?
Does your God loves those who do great mischief on earth?
Does your God loves Satan?
I am a Muslim and I believe that my God HATES these kinda of people. If my God shares his love with these kinda of people? Then his love will be worthless as much of these people that i've mentioned.
"He is telling the Hebrews/Israelites NOT TO WORSHIP OTHER gods! So what if he phrased it that way?" (smartwarlord)
There is nothing wrong with it.
Its just you guys keep telling me that God has to be Trinity because he must have some kinda relashionship within him in order to have relashionship with us.
If so? Then one of relashionship between God and the Israelites is Jealousy. So who is he jealous before the creation?
@smartwarlord So is saying that god tells himself that he loves himself or is he talking to his son wich would make them two separate entities in which one shares his power with the other or does the holy ghost choose who he wants to serve since it is a god too.
To answer your other question though, Christians believe that the Godhead (Father, Son and Spirit) are united in being, but not in person - that is to say - no person of the Godhead could dissent, but there can be relationships between the persons. Of course, these relationships - just like Father & Son are eternal, and never came into being.
Most Christians believe the Holy Spirit acts on Jesus' behalf, not the Father's. The Father sends the Son, who then sends the Spirit.
The Trinity is a very complex theological perspective, that while it does have origins in the New Testament, it was largely developed over several hundred years of discussion between Christians.
No Christian group ever believed Jesus was just a human being like Islam believes - many muslims who do not know history often speak of the Ebionites who had a Jesus as well, however this is not the same Jesus as the one in the Gospels.
friend: Whats the trinity?
Me: uhhh look at the saying on our money :s (i need notes and to practice a little) haha
bluemanyoman 21 hours ago
Wow he said it perfectly.. Love how he speaks
xJROMER0x 3 weeks ago
Everything he said made no since. this is a false attempt at justifying a pagan doctrine.
blakymoe 3 weeks ago
@samsondifferent, of course not. God loves all sinners. If He didn't, He probably wouldn't hate sin as He does. Think about it, if He didn't love us, what would He care if we sinned? He loves sinners, hates sin.
cmottes 2 months ago 3
BAM.
ginasnaps50 3 months ago
@ginasnaps50 POW.
JACOESHMT 1 month ago
God is not added dimensions.God is not complex but simplicity of all oneness.All threes are not one in things or entitys. Except God is One in three revelations of the same. Ravi is saying there is unity and diversity in the trinity.There is only unity spoken and revealed in three distinct Persons of the same.There is never diversity in trinity in virtue or attribute.God is not three therefore a better added dimension of Person.God is One.Each Person reveals distinct same virtue and attribute.
polopowers1 8 months ago
It's painful to watch the contortions this man is going through to justify a defunct idea. Why can't Christians just admit that the Trinity is a self-contradicting mess? The human ability for self-delusion boggles the mind.
MomoTheBellyDancer 1 year ago
@MomoTheBellyDancer
'The human ability for self-delusion boggles the mind..."
This is shown in your comment.
aveyowyns 1 year ago
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"This is shown in your comment."
What self-delusion have I shown? Be specific.
MomoTheBellyDancer 1 year ago
God is not an addition of dimensions God is not better by being three distinct Persons.The secret of God is His Oneness immeasurable without human understanding for unity. But not by multiplication but by three being One.Ravi is suggesting diversity and addition in the Oneness of God there is no diversity in God though three distinct beings that is the secret of God such immeasurable Oneness
polopowers1 1 year ago
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Its been 3 days since the last time you responed to me.
"Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs" (4:171)
The Trinity is vague and mysterious doctrine that was formulated during the fourth century.
Kite208 1 year ago
God Himself gave the doctrine in the Incarnation. Jesus made all his disciples "Trinitarians".
All of the New Testament written NO more than 40 years after Jesus testify to this.
All of the Early Church Fathers (Clement, Polycarp, Ignatius) were disciples of the Apostles and all were Trinitarian.
There is no formulation of doctrine within God's religion, everything is revealed divinely.
Jesus is Lord of Lords and King of Kings.
Jesus > Allah.
smartwarlord 1 year ago 14
Jesus made all his disciples "Trinitarians"? So your telling me that nobody believed in the Trinity until Jesus came to the scene, right?
How intersting?
If Jesus is the King of Kings then what about the God the Fatehr? Are you saying Jesus is more powerful than his own Father?
Peace
P.S.
You still havn't responsed my previouse comments.
Kite208 1 year ago
Jesus>Allah?
Yeah?
tell that to the Arab-Christian who believes that Jesus is the son of Allah.
Kite208 1 year ago
Most "Arab-Christians" (btw, no such thing exists, ones race and religion are separate, there is no "German Buddhist".
Most use a Persian (Farsi) substitute instead of "Allah" to not be confused with Paganism.
And in some sense Jesus>God because not all three persons of God have two natures, as evident by God's Word, the Father and Holy Spirit have never incarnated and have remained eternal within their form called Spirit.
The equation God>Jesus can also be correct, as only the Father knows
smartwarlord 1 year ago
when the end of time will be.
smartwarlord 1 year ago
@smartwarlord FTW!!!!!!!!! :D
cyborgmikeable 1 year ago
@smartwarlord If Jesus is God then your pagan.
blakymoe 3 weeks ago
@blakymoe
Actually I'm Jewish. I lure Christians (and with this video Muslims) into the comments to then speak with and usually debate them.
I don't think an Arabic-speaking cross worshiper would have any difficulty understanding "Jesus is greater than Allah", since many Arabic Christians do not use Allah to refer to the Christian deity, but rather the god of the Qur'an. Instead, they use a substitute.
smartwarlord 3 weeks ago
@smartwarlord Point taken.
blakymoe 3 weeks ago
@smartwarlord If you said that last line to a palestinian christian or any Arabic speaking christian they would be very confused
blakymoe 3 weeks ago
@Kite208
The moon god of mecca; allah, Is just a part of Islam's sub-Christian cult. If Mohammed knew that the Injil and Towrah were Truth (people of the Book) then he violated Galatians 1:6-9 which shows that he is contradictory. And since allah can't decide between the Meccan and Medinan periods as to what to do with the Jews and Christians....he isn't all-knowing then is he? Besides NO muslim can actually indicate where the Bible was "twisted" because it didn't happen.
creationcamp 6 months ago 2
@creationcamp When was the bible created? just because someone decided to compile some literature to unite a pagan nation does not mean that it is Holy book. The fact that when Jesus PBUH came and argued with the Jews about what was with them is proof that it was being distorted. and you can ignore history all you want but even Paul and Peter were not on the same accord. there were differences in there practice.
blakymoe 3 weeks ago
@creationcamp You cannot tell me that the group that was used to compile the bible not being followers of the teachings of Jesus PBUH had the best intentions when creating this book.
blakymoe 3 weeks ago
@creationcamp The bible brought on the dark ages and the Quran brought the Golden ages. Also followers of the Towrah were as far stretched as South-Africa which science proves today along with the Jews of Ethiopia. And if i worship the moon god then you hide pagan ritual and artifact who erect false idols are surely sun god worshipers
blakymoe 3 weeks ago
@Kite208 You need to read your history again kite208 and stop watching Acmed Deeda and Shabrie Ally, why not try read with a open mind and heart some real Christian literature, what have you got to loss?
MrBrendaneoin22 2 months ago
@ 5:37
If God ever says he hates? Who is he hating before the creation?
Kite208 2 years ago
God only hates sin. There was no sin before the creation.
Thus your question is illogical because it denies the very nature of God, which is love.
smartwarlord 1 year ago
Oh God!
Don't tell me that you are one those Christians who believes "God hate the sin and not the sinner"?
If so, then there is no point of talking to you since its clearly that you will find passages through out the Bible that God hates certian people.
You know what? froget about hate, what about Jealousy?
"I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God" (Exodus 20:5)
If God ever says he jealous? who is he jealous before the creation?
Kite208 1 year ago
I am a Jew who believes God has created every human being, knit them together in their mother's womb and gave them life. I obviously then accept that God loves all of His creation, and He can not be around sin, thus he hates the sin. Not the individual. If I said to the contrary, I'd be a muslim.
Do you not understand the context which that is in? He is telling the Hebrews/Israelites NOT TO WORSHIP OTHER gods! So what if he phrased it that way?
smartwarlord 1 year ago
Does the God of the Bible Love Everyone? Part 1/2
God loves all of his creation?
Does your God loves the rapist?
Does your God loves Hitler?
Does your God loves Osama bin Laden?
Does your God loves those who do great mischief on earth?
Does your God loves Satan?
I am a Muslim and I believe that my God HATES these kinda of people. If my God shares his love with these kinda of people? Then his love will be worthless as much of these people that i've mentioned.
Kite208 1 year ago
Does the God of the Bible Love Everyone? Part 2/2
I thought Jews dont believe in Trinity? Also, if you are Jew, shouldn't you know little about your Bible that God clearly hates certian people?
"The arrogant cannot stand in your presence; you HATE all who do wrong" (Psalm 5:5)
"Because they did all these things, I ABHORRED them." (Lev 20:23)
"I will ABHOR you" (Lev 26:30)
Again, If God ever says he hates or abhor? Who is he hating or abhoring before the creation?
Kite208 1 year ago
"He is telling the Hebrews/Israelites NOT TO WORSHIP OTHER gods! So what if he phrased it that way?" (smartwarlord)
There is nothing wrong with it.
Its just you guys keep telling me that God has to be Trinity because he must have some kinda relashionship within him in order to have relashionship with us.
If so? Then one of relashionship between God and the Israelites is Jealousy. So who is he jealous before the creation?
Peace
Kite208 1 year ago
@Kite208 If u say God hates sinner den tat means he hates mankind bcoz der s none perfect in dis world!
samsondifferent 4 months ago
@smartwarlord So is saying that god tells himself that he loves himself or is he talking to his son wich would make them two separate entities in which one shares his power with the other or does the holy ghost choose who he wants to serve since it is a god too.
blakymoe 3 weeks ago
@blakymoe
To answer your other question though, Christians believe that the Godhead (Father, Son and Spirit) are united in being, but not in person - that is to say - no person of the Godhead could dissent, but there can be relationships between the persons. Of course, these relationships - just like Father & Son are eternal, and never came into being.
Most Christians believe the Holy Spirit acts on Jesus' behalf, not the Father's. The Father sends the Son, who then sends the Spirit.
smartwarlord 3 weeks ago
@smartwarlord
The Trinity is a very complex theological perspective, that while it does have origins in the New Testament, it was largely developed over several hundred years of discussion between Christians.
No Christian group ever believed Jesus was just a human being like Islam believes - many muslims who do not know history often speak of the Ebionites who had a Jesus as well, however this is not the same Jesus as the one in the Gospels.
smartwarlord 3 weeks ago
@smartwarlord then what jesus is ti.
blakymoe 3 weeks ago