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  • this is a bad tittle Jesus was the son of god but he is not god when he was on earth he was a man

  • half right. only he's missing the fact that Jesus was a PROPHET

  • Jesus was just a common name in Israël and for all your other statements about a Jesus that might have been crusified and would have gone into thin air, I think the evidence is lacking. The Bible however states in Revelations that we also people maybe in this time should suffer under plagues because of so many centuries ago a certain Jesus among so many Jesus would have been crusified. And next to this he would also been crusified. I do not wish to believe in that.

  • Q. Do muslims believe in Jesus Christ ? A. Believing in Jesus and all other prophets of God is a fundamental part of muslim faith. Muslims believe that Jesus is the son of Virgin Mary, and he had no father. God created Jesus and he is a prophet IE saying he is god. Or the son of god is a major sin in Islam

  • @DJibby1 sounds like another bible basher.

  • 116. And (remember) when God will say (on the Day of Resurrection): "O 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Did you say unto men: 'Worship me and my mother as two gods besides God?' " He will say: "Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner-self though I do not know what is in Yours, truly, You, only You, are the All-Knower of all that is hidden and unseen.(Al:ma'idah) 116 holy Qur

  • Religion poisons everything! :D

    

  • Jesus was NOT God literally, Who was he praying to in the garden IF he was God? Himself?

  • REVELATION 5 shows GOD sitting on the throne and JESUS taking a book or scroll out of his hand!!

  • If Jesus was GOD, then why in Isiah 11:2-3 GOD had put the spirit of fearing GOD in Jesus?

    If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:30 Jesus told his followers that he can't do a single thing of his own initiative?

    If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:36-38 Jesus said that GOD had assigned him (Jesus) work and GOD is a witness on Jesus?

    If Jesus was GOD, then why did he pray to his GOD in Luke 5:16?

    If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 26:39 Jesus fell on his face and prayed to his GOD?

  • @Dielloncheee

    BECAUSE he OPERATING AS MAN ON PLANET EARTH MY FRIEND...To pay the price for sin he had to become a human for us humans.....

  • If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 14:28 Jesus said "My Father (GOD) is greater than I"?

    If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 14:28 Jesus said "My Father (GOD) is greater than I"?

    If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 20:17 Jesus said I ascend to my God and your God? This tells us that we and Jesus have a common GOD.

    If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 8:28 Jesus said "I do nothing of myself"? Can't GOD do anything he wills

    

  • Matthew 15;1-6 Jesus is talking about the God in the old testament Vs 7-9 Jesus is saying those exact same people were worshiping him (Jesus) in vain.

  • John 10;30

    29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

    30 I and my Father are one.

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  • 5) Mankind has been through ice ages, earthquakes, famines, plagues, wars, dramatic climate change, hurricanes, oppression, rape, murder, and many more things, and the shrinking ozone layer and future possibility of being hit by an asteroid bigger than our planet. I'd say it's a very slim chance we could exist for billions of year without some kind of guiding hand to help us along the way.

  • 4) There are biological clues: - Two men cannot NATURALLY create a human being, and neither can two women. - Same sex relations is like trying to put a CD into a USB drive or create a magnetic attraction with two positives or two negatives. - The complexity of a cell is astounding.

  • more^

    1) In the British museum in London, there are artifacts and scrolls of animal skin that detail events in the lives of King David and Sennacherib that are in the Bible.

    2) With the application of logic, the Big Bang Theory is extremely faulty: you cannot create something from nothing without the aid of a Creator.

    3) Human nature can never be perfect, that's why there is the concept of a dystopia or eutopia. No matter how much we try, without a divine guidance, we will always make mistakes.

  • Before I engage in Christian apologetics, I want to put this out here:

    The Canadian Bill of Rights, AND the American one, both give citizens of this country the ability to express their opinions, defend their religion and to freely associate with whatever they chose to.Secondly, I want to debate with the level of respect Jesus had.

  • JESUS IS GOD!

    JOHN 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

  • @TrueW0man247 posting bible verses is not going to solve anything. like i said. there is no way to prove the validity of the bible. unless of course you do have some evidence

  • @TrueW0man247

    Period and in his human form .....Prophet priest and King....

    The fulness of the Godhead dwelt bodily in Jesus......There... is NO OTHER WAY...

  • Jesus supposedly teached love and peace. What a bunch of fucking bullshit!! He taught people to hate others, not because they're hurting people or killing people, but simply because they have a different belief than him. He taught people to hate Jews, not because we're killing and stealing or any other evil action, but simply because we believe differently from him. Jesus is the reason behind 2000 yrs of Christian anti semitism. He was evil to teach people to hate because of belief, not actions

  • Since God was supposedly a man, Jesus, this means that God shit and pissed and wiped his ass. Maybe he occasionally had diarerea or hemmoroids. Maybe he had wet dreams. Maybe he wet the bed when he was young. So to the Christian, God is someone who has homoroids, pisses/shits, wipes his ass after having diarrea and has wet dreams when he's not pissing all over his sheets as a youngster. You Christians are spirtually blind- of course God does not do any of those things- He is not a man.Nmbr 23:18

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  • RABBIT CHEWS THE CUD. Leviticus 11:6

    CAMEL DOES NOT DIVIDE THE HOOF. Leviticus 11:4

  • this gives christians a FREE PASS TO SIN!

    do they think they can commit crimes like murder and jesus was punished so they wont be?

    alternatively if a christian says that they do still get punished then that means jesus never saved them and he?

    was not a saviour after all

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  • this man has never read the bible

  • Isaiah 7:14 says the child born of the virgin would be named “Immanuel”, which means "with us is God".. “Jesus” is the Hebrew “Yehowshua”, defined by #3091 Strong's Hebrew Dictionary as meaning “Jehovah saved”. Sorry, but Immanuel and Jesus are two different people! Furthermore, the name "Christ" has the number value 666. For clear and precise proof, search "Christ = 666 - SHOCKING NEW DISCOVERY" on YouTube.

  • God bless this man for telling the truth. Jesus is god can't wait till he returns.

  • REVELAtION 5 shows JESUS the LAMB, root of david, lion of JUDAH take a book or scroll out of the right hand of HIM YHWH GOD who sat on the THRONE, it soooo clear Jesus is God's only begotten SON, firstborn of all creation, who earn the right to open God's book of life.

  • Beloved Jesus wasn't arrogant to dare to claim himself to be a God.

  • I recommend that all christians should refrain from eating the literal FLESH and BLOOD of a man , and this will help them to behave less like animals. bye

  • @arcz10 AND I RECOMMEND YOU BURN THE FILTHY BOOK THAT SAYS ALLAH LITERALLY PLACED HIS HUGE LIPS ON MARYAM AND BLEW INTO HER FAJR. MORESO HE GOES ON TO EXPLAIN WHERE THE FAJR THAT HE BLEW IN CAN BE FOUND. IE BTWN HER LEGS JUST INCASE THE MUSLIM FOLLOWERS MISSED IT Qur'an 66:12

  • @jesusyarrup would you of hammered in the nails into Jesus to save your soul?I am sure you would take great pleasure in it, don't blame the Jews . The Jews think you are an abomination. No one killed Jesus , you sick folks tried to , because you thought it would bring you salvation.

  • I WANT TO BE MORE HATED THAN THEY HATE MUHAMMAD. SO THAT I WILL BE WORLD FAMOUS...

  • @julio14335 You got it wrong there, Mohammad did all the hating and in natural progression you do it too. The fruit does not fall far from the tree. The quran consist of 65% hatred against non believers, look into the hadith and sira literature and you will find plenty more. Hitler, Stalin, Mao tsi tung, Pol Pot. were all hated for their cruelty and hatred, welcome to your hall of fame.

  • @jesusyarrup Your theologians are constantly engage in debates and they always loses to MUSLIMS but you are here DRINKING YOUR SENSES WITH HATE, why not go forward like JAMES WHITE,JAY SMITH and OTHERS and teaches us something educative. you will sooner or later get too OLD this life my friend...

  • @julio14335 and i suppose ull stay young forever TRY AND REASON LIKE A HUMAN NOT A MAD MUHAMMADAN

  • @jesusyarrup YOU CANNOT USE THOSE WORDS EVEN ON YOUR PRESIDENT, SEE HOW BACKWARD YOU ARE, YOU WILL SURELY DIE AND FACE JUDGEMENT FOR YOUR WORDS AND ACTIONS...

  • @julio14335 THE ONE WHO WILL DIE AND FACE REALITY IS THE STONE WORSHIPPING FOOL.

    Sahih bikhari Volume 2, Book 26, Number 697 Narrated Ibn Abbas

    Allah's Apostle performed Tawaf (of the Kaba) ending a camel (at that time the Prophet had foot injury). Whenever he came to the Corner (having the BLACK STONE) HE WOULD POINT OUT TOWARDS IT with a thing in his hand and say, "ALLAHU-AKBAR." (الله أكبر)

  • THE STONE WILL NOT SAVE U TRUST ME .

  • @jesusyarrup OMG this question has been answered over and over, HIS marrriages was for political, social and economical reason, in that case prophets before him were also not better DAVID got 1000 wives, ABRAHAM 3 wives etc. HIS OWN MADE UP LAWS, THAT IS ONE MAN JOB, BUT THE BIBLE 40 AUTHORS WROTE IT, CAN YOU SEE HOW ACCURATE THE JOB OF ONE MAN IS,

  • @julio14335 EXACTLY A ONE MAN SHAM!!!

    THE ONE MAN DECLARED HIMSELF A PROPHET AFTER HAVING AN EPILEPTIC FIT AND HIS MOTHER WIFE AND ALL AROUND HIM DECLARING HIM MAD AND DEMON POSSESSED.

    HE MADE UP HIS VERSES OF CONVENIENCE TO SUIT HIS AGENDAS,COPIED STORIES FROM OLD ARAB TALES AND SUPERSTITIONS,BIBLE AND ETC.

    THE BIBLE HAS NUMEROUS WITNESSES, AUTHORS ALL ATTESTING TO THE SAME THING MUHAMMAD HAD NO EVIDENCE OR WITNESSES BUT HIMSELF AND HIS DELUSIONS

  • no Christian still wont swap me $1 for $3, but i am sure a preacher could convince you all especially if talking in tongues with a rattle snake bank account.,,,,

  • @arcz10 LOOK @ ANOTHER IGNORAMUS FOOL TALKING ABOUT BRIBERY AND DOENT HAVE A CLUE WHAT HIS RELIGION SAYS ON THE SAME ISSUE.

    THE BAFOON ALLAH ASKING HIS FOLLOWERS TO BRIBE PEOPLE INTO FOLLOWING ISLAM BOTH IN QURAN AND HADITH .

    ISLAM IS THE ONLY RELIGION IN THE WORLD WHICH IT BAFOON FOUNDER CALLS FOR MURDER,LOOTING,BOOTY AND BRIBERIES TO GET CONVERTS

  • @jesusyarrup Arab Christians also call God Allah so do Jews, educate yourself your religion came from us , we know it better than you, you have just turned one of us into a God . You are an ABOMINATION  to both Muslims and Jews.

  • @arcz10 THE CHRISTIAN ARABS CALL YASHUA ALLAH WHAT EXACTLY IS UR POINT?

    ISLAM IS THE ABOMINATION AND CURSE AND THOS E THAT FOLLOW IT WILL SOON FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT THEY GOT THEMSELVES INTO.

  • @jesusyarrup yes exactly you dont even use the right word, God can be plural and have gender. Hell is for you if you dont believe ask any Jew. Salvation through brutal homicide, what nonsense, trinity , crusifiction, divinity of the messiah, once again you are an insult to Muslims and Jews.

  • @arcz10 AND SPEAKING OF SALVATION THROUGH BRUTAL HOMICIDE;

    A MUSLIM SUICIDE BOMER WHO BLOWS UP THE MOST UNBELIEVERS IS GUARANTEED ENTRY TO A HIGHER JENNA (IN ALLAH'S SEVEN JENNAS), 72 VIRGINS,300 NON BLEEDING BOY WHO WILL BE BEAUTIFUL AS PEARLS (GAY ALLAH DESCRIBING THIS TO HIS GAY MUSLIMS) AND PERPETUALLY FRESH

  • @jesusyarrup 72 virgin thing is not in Islam. Lay off the blood and flesh Jeffrey Dahmer, its making you crazy. And once again you are an ABOMINATION to Jews, your are an insult to the old testament.They think you are blood hungry vermin.

  • @arcz10 It was reported in the hadeeth of al-Miqdaam ibn Ma’di Karb that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The martyr (shaheed) has seven blessings from Allaah: he is forgiven from the moment his blood is first shed; he will be shown his place in Paradise; he will be spared the trial of the grave; and he will be secure on the Day of the Greatest Terror (the Day of Judgement); ......

  • ....there will be placed on his head a crown of dignity, one ruby of which is better than this world and all that is in it; he will be married to seventy-two of al-hoor al-‘iyn; and he will be permitted to intercede for seventy of his relatives.”

    Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, who said it is a hasan hadeeth. Also narrated by Ibn Maajah in al-Sunan, by Ahmad, by ‘Abd al-Razzaaq in al-Musannaf, by al-Tabaraani in al-Kabeer, and by Sa’eed ibn Mansoor in al-Sunan).[

  • @arcz10 STUPID ALLAH WILL MURDER RIGHTEOUS MORAL JEWS AND CHRISTIANS FOR THE PLACE OF FILTHY EVIL VILE SINNING STONE WORSHIPPERING MUSLIMS;

    ..........................No Muslim would die but Allah would admit IN HIS STEAD a Jew or a Christian in Hell-Fire.........(Sahih Muslim, Book 037, Number 6666)

    SO MUCH FOR THE STONES DIVINE MERCY

  • @jesusyarrup God never murders an innocent for you, blood of the lamb is akin to sacrifice of virgins. Again your core belief WOULD never be accepted by anyone of the old testament. Jews never killed Jesus so that you can party in heaven. There is no salvation through suicide or homicide.

  • @arcz10 Narrated Anas: The Prophet said, "I GIVE TO QURAISH PEOPLE IN ORDER TO LET THEM ADHERE TO ISLAM, for they are near to their life of Ignorance (i.e. they have newly embraced Islam and it is still not strong in their hearts." Sahih Bukhari 4:53:374

  • @arcz10 ALMS ARE ONLY FOR the poor and the needy, and the officials (appointed) over them, and THOSE WHOSE HEARTS ARE MADE TO INCLINE TO TRUTH and the (ransoming of) captives and those in debts and IN THE WAY OF ALLAH and the wayfarer; an ordinance from Allah; and Allah is knowing, Wise. Qur'an 9:60

  • so wich one isit.

    is god unknowing unjust or chages hes mind thos is not god has hes unkowning..

    ill example.. god knows adam was gona eat the fuit.. then puts some else in sin or hes mistake(unjust)

    then changes hes mind and being down hes spoed son in sin. sinless spobly .cant forgive anyone in heaven kills

    hes son for hes oun mistake then says this is just?? ..

    so wich one isit unjust unknowing or changes hes mind thos unkowing ??? ..

  • who created god?

  • Read Isaiah 6:9

  • jesus is god. because he was perfect and sin free.

  • @REALKNOWLEDGE777 not to be disrespectful or anything. But you both answered your own question and contradicted yourself. God did give his only son, in other words he gave himself in the form of man. Jesus is literally God in the flesh. Yes Jesus is apart of the holy trinity, meaning he, God and the holy spirit are one in the same, three parts of the same person. God humbled himself in the most humble way-- stepping off the throne and becoming man. Taking the punishment of his own rath in place

  • How can Jesus be GOD when it states in John 3:16 that GOD gave his son to the earth. He didn't give himself. Jesus is part of the Holy Trinity. GOD YHWH, LORD Jesus/Yashua, and The Holy Ghost.

  • I don't know how far Lee has gone into his studies of the Bible, but I ask everyone who watches this video, to also watch this other video about someone who has a Masters in Divinity from the Harvard Divinity School, who was trained by the best and who was exposed to insider knowledge not likely to be available to people like Lee. Personally, I know which one impresses me more - search for "Dr. Jerald Dirks on TheDeenShow"

  • @firusmazlan For Dr Jerald Dirks to get insider knowledge about the compilation of the Bible he has to be 2000 years old, because those insiders lived about that time. It is easily to get impressed by people who tell you what you want to hear. If you dont know the meaning of terms "protocanonical" and "deuterocanonical" you can be easily impressed. To be impressed is an emotion, but to be convinced is a horse of a different colour. I have seen this clip, but was not impressed, but taqiyyad.

  • Daniel 10:6 His body was like chrysolite, his face like lightning, his eyes like flaming torches, his arms and legs like the gleam of burnished bronze, and his voice like the sound of a multitude.Revelation 2:18 "To the angel of the church in Thyatira write: These are the words of the Son of God, whose eyes are like blazing fire and whose feet are like burnished bronze.decended was made man. rose in the spirit that he is. was .how then can he look like this.

  • I love Islam more than my life.

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  • Other prophets performed miracles, had exemplary characters, and some of them also fulfilled prophecies with their coming. We don't hear their followers taking those things as proof of their Godhood, do we? And if resurrection is the ultimate proof, where is the evidence that somebody can be resurrected only if he is God himself? Can't the all-powerful real God resurrect any normal man if He so wishes, including Jesus? It's amazing what people call "proof" nowadays...

  • @firusmazlan It is easy to post comment on youtube, but it is different to substantiate your comment. Rom 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God"; All the prophets were human and all humans sin. So no one can claim their prophets were exemplary because of the very fact they were human. "The wages of sin is death" Rom 6:23. Jesus defeated death because he was sinless (only man is sinful) that is why he conquered death with the Resurrection. He rose again.

  • @firusmazlan As you said, That an all powerful God can do anything, he can resurrect a normal man. He can also make elephants fly. But the fact is he did not. It was only Jesus who was born from a virgin and resurrected on the third day. God is not whimsical, everything he does is for a reason. The ultimate proof is not the Resurrection but the proof of a god who loves and care and not a heartless God of the skies who give s you no assurance of your salvation but only back breaking rules.

  • If you viewed it with regards to Jesus' relationship to Mary, then Jesus is her son and God's son at the same time and Jesus is also the God of Mary and the God of His son at the same time. Anyone who believes Mary gave birth to her son and God's son and the God of Mary and the God of His son at the same time needs some serious help. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

  • @tadpoleposition You are right your post makes absolutely no sense whatsover. Thanks for confirming that. You are not the only one who write senseless things. Take a look at this dope. Say : O ye that reject Faith!

    2. I worship not that which ye worship,

    3. Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

    4. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,

    You've got to get in line.

    5. Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

    6. To you be your Way, and to me mine.

  • IF JESUS IS GOD, HE HAD SEX WITH HIS OWN MOTHER!

  • @michiman 57 WHAT ARE YOU, AN IDIOT? Dont you read? Mary was a virgin, That is why its call the virgin birth.

  • @mjr2168 still. how is it possible to give birth to yourself? cant you understand common sense?

  • @michiman57 Its not giving birth to yourself, it is the incarnation of the second person in the trinity. You are arguing from ignorance. Take sometime to do so research before you come in all half cocked.

  • @mjr2168 i did some research. there is no such thing as trinity in the bible. trinity is just a concept made up cause nobody could explain why the bible said "let us make man in our likeness". everytime something goes against their teachings, they change it to whatever they want it to mean. in fact the bible has been changed over and over so much that you have to wonder if any of it is even true anymore

  • @michiman57 If you are looking for the word "Trinity" in the bible, then your research is all in vain, because it does not exist there. It defines a dogma or a doctrine. A concept which is made up has no logical premises. but a doctrine does have logical deductions which you may not know off. "Let us make man in our likeness" is not the trinity, but is used to explain the trinity. But "Blessing in the name of the father son and HS" is a phrase to base the concept on.

  • @michiman57 Now your baseless accusation about the authenticity of the Bible. The bible is the only book of antiquity which can support it authenticity with thousands of manuscripts in different languages all saying the same thing. Errors found in those are scribal errors but never a doctrinal error. The youngest book of antiquity is the quran. It is unable to provide authentic manuscript evidence of its original revelation. Nothing prior the Uthmanic recension is available for scrutiny.

  • @mjr2168 how does it explain trinity? it doesnt. you just assume it does. THAT is baseless. if there is any gods at all, there are multiple of them, not just one or a trinity. all the first religions have multiple gods, and the modern religions are based off of those.

  • @michiman57 My comments were not to explain the trinity, but to point out your week comments, not because you are unintelligent, but because your initial premises are wrong. The religions that had multiple Gods, did believe that there was a top God. Let say monotheism is about this top God. Trinity is about the nature of God, not the number of Gods. Trinity does not mean 3 gods, but three person in 1 God, co equal and co eternal. The trinity is a mystery, rationally explained to a degree.

  • @mjr2168 what makes the belief of one god more valid than the the belief of many gods? christianity is not any more valid than the ancient egyptian or greek religions. you cant say there is only one god

  • @michiman57 I am not here to challenge you beliefs, but am here to challenge your misconception of my belief. Whether you worship one God or a pantheon of Gods is not my concern.

    Putting aside the theological and philosophical arguments. The nature of God presented by Christianity is far more superior than the Gods of ancient Egypt. If you want to worship Pharaoh as a god without any substantiation go ahead and make my day.

  • @mjr2168 i dont believe in any god. i dont have a belief. i just used those as an example. you still didnt answer the question. what makes christianity superior to other religions? there is no reason for you to say that since all religions are in equal lack of evidence. what about muslim, islam, traditional japanese and all the rest? they also claim their religion is superior without back up. give me evidence christianity is superior smart ass

  • @michiman57 Dont jump the gun here. Dont put words into my mouth. Did I say that Christianity is superior to other religions? Did I say all religions are lacking in evidence? and you did not ask me about its superiority. Your are trying to be the smart ass, by fooling yourself with semantics. All religions have their evidences, but you have not taken the time to familiar yourself with them. But I dont think you have evidence for your belief, Its just a fashion or a dis grunt for you.

  • @mjr2168 "You are right your post makes absolutely no sense whatsover. Thanks for confirming that. You are not the only one who write senseless things."

    According to Christians, Jesus is God's son and God at the same time. So, Jesus, in relationship to Mary, is her son and her God's son and her God and the God of her God's son all at the same time. If you're not some reformed Christian who doesn't believe Jesus is God and God's son at the same time, then that's your senseless belief.

  • @tadpoleposition Jesus is the Incarnation of God "God incarnate". Mary is the "theotokos" the carrier of the word of God, the living word of God. The jews had the tabernacle which carried the word of God (10 commandments) and which God asked Moses to build. The quran carries Allahs words (dead words) for the Muslims, (Muslims will kill you if you burn it). It would be senseless if you put it your way, but if you used the right terminology and theology the senseless becomes sensible.

  • @mjr2168 In other words, you're in total agreement with my comment.

  • @tadpoleposition Not in total agreement, but like a perfect lie, which is based on a truth, I extracted the element of truth and presented as it should be, without the vulgarity.

    Your comment can be compared to a person denigrating the beautify birth process, by giving it a pornographic description, or a critique of a Shakespearean sonnet, by a disgruntled and bitter critic who has a bone to pick with the author. There is more to it, but the purpose was to instruct you in decency.

  • @mjr2168 Oh, and here I thought stating plain old common sense was acceptable. I'll try to make it as nonsensical as possible next time in order for you to understand it. 

  • @mjr2168 are you serious? you clearly said the nature of one god is far more superior than many gods. and cant you get it through your thick skull that I DONT HAVE A BELIEF! i said it for the third time now! i dont believe due to LACK OF EVIDENCE OF A GOD/GODS. if you have the evidence why dont you just tell me what it is and make me believe. every damn christian claim they have evidence and then they never tell me what it is. that makes them liars. now are you gonna give me evidence or not?

  • @michiman57 You seem not to be taking things serious, I did not say that the nature of one God is superior to the many, but I did say the concept of the Nature of the Christian God is superior to the many. When I said " I don't think you have no evidence for your belief" is in reply to your statement " i don't believe in God" Isn't that your belief. So take it easy and don't get hot in the cuff. what is your evidence in not believing in God? irrational minds cannot fathom the existence of God

  • @mjr2168 wow. are you seriously that stupid or are you just pretending to be? i am an atheist. simply meaning that I DONT BELIEVE. and i dont believe because theist claims have no evidence! theists claim there is a god, therefore they need to provide evidence of his existence. atheists REJECT the belief of god due to lack of evidence that christians fail to provide. its called burden of proof, and you need to provide the evidence. so for the 500th time, wheres the evidence you claimed to have?

  • @michiman57 my response was to stop u from bastardizing a defined concept (trinity) regardless whether you believe it or not. I have succeeded in what I set out to do, seeing that you have no proper defense for your irresponsible statement. You being the initiator and claimant for the second I DONT BELIEVE IN GOD an atheistic world view the BOP is yours to uphold. This is the basic rules debate. If I had to initiate it by saying I BELIEVE IN GOD a new argument, the BOP would be mine.

  • @michiman57 The problem with you and many of you brights, is that you don't have the backbone and the fortitude, in-spite of your empirical minds, to come up with a decent argument against the existence of God, but would rather, like a bunch of hyenas, shift the burden of proof to the dulls who don't really care whether you accept their evidence or not. Lets see if you can convince me if there is no God with proper evidence and not with a stubborn school boy " I DONT BELIEVE IN GOD"

  • @mjr2168 ok well first of all, there are no talking snakes, the world is not 6000 years old, and the world is not flat. all these things are mentioned in the bible. that doesnt sound like an intelligent designer now does it? sounds more like a primitive man without scientific understanding of the world. but anyway... to the point.. YOU CLAIMED TO HAVE EVIDENCE THAT GOD EXISTS. i will accept evidence you give me, so why in the world are you avoiding giving me that evidence? you obviously lied!

  • @michiman57 First of all the bible never claimed to teach the fine points of science, show me where does it do so. The bible is primarily a book of salvation history, moral instructions, presented in different genres of literature (eg historical, metaphorical, allegorical and biographical) only an unlettered fool, would mention the existence of talking snakes and scientific non facts. All you are doing is unsuccessfully trying to prove the authenticity of the bible, not the existence of God.

  • @michiman57 Secondly, the key word for understanding the bible, is contextual referencing to its historical, cultural and literary context. The bible cant be read in isolation and cherry picking does no justice to the reader or the book itself.

    If you can show me where I claimed in this correspondence TO HAVE EVIDENCE THAT GOD EXISTS (which I don't disagree) I will claim the burden of proof. But if you cannot show me, you are the liar and the burden of proof still remains yours.

  • @mjr2168 LOL! perfect! you just proved you are a liar!! you said "All religions have their evidences" meaning you have evidence for the existence of your god! hahaha and you tried to accuse me of lying! so stop the bs and give me the evidence you have you moron!

  • @michiman57 OK I agree you caught me out on a technicality, But since you have shown me that the word all is there, I will tell you WHY I DON'T BELIEVE IN ATHEISM. Which you as a confessed atheist could not do. U did try with ur talking snake, but could not go far. Well to tell you the truth I was an avid atheist for 10 years, when I was a young, self impressed ignorant poop like you.

    Well here is goes. Tell me do you believe that you have a SOUL/SPIRIT? or you may call it anything you like.

  • @mjr2168 obviously you were never an atheist cause ATHEISM IS NOT A DAMN BELIEF! can you stop being an idiot please? how hard is that to understand?? and no i dont believe in the spiritual concept of a soul. the soul is a primitive concept of consciousness, nowadays educated people called it a BRAIN. i am answering you questions so are you finally going to give me the evidence i have been requesting? extraordinary claims require extraordinary claims. otherwise you are by definition delusional

  • @michiman57 As you said the soul is a spiritual concept and the brain is a material part of the greater material body. Where do you think ideas originate from.

  • @mjr2168 no. the soul is what primitive people perceived as consciousness, today it is known as the brain. the idea of a soul originated from people that didnt have a proper understanding of consciousness. and like i said, you are still avoiding an answer like an average christian ignorant. are you an idiot? do you understand the word "EVIDENCE"? stop mocking your own religion and give me an answer.

  • @michiman57 I think you are avoiding the question. You are just making ad hominem statements. I asked you Where do you think ideas come from? But it seems you are reluctant to answer. Work with me genius. Humour me. You are getting you evidence, but you cant see it, primarily because you are working for it. Answer the question bright, where do you think idea originate from.

  • @mjr2168 the idea of a soul? i already said! it came from uneducated, primitive understanding of consciousness! and that is in no way any evidence that god exists!

  • @michiman57 You seem to be dancing about my questions. If you are talking about the concept of a soul that is not the question I ask. My question is,where do you think human ideas come from. Any ideas, where do they come from? eg like the idea of Justice, and mercy and a lot of other idea where do they come from?

  • @michiman57 6billion people in the world are all uneducated, because they believe in the existence of the soul. But when a bright like you is asked a simple question, about the origin or source of ideas, you seem to be playing dumb or misinterpreting my statement. I will rephrase it and make it simpler. Where do you think, in the human body, are "ideas" generated? We passed the soul topic, I get you?

  • @mjr2168 ideas come from what you know or what you think you know. are you saying ideas came from god? -.- this better lead up to evidence for gods existence or else you should change the subject. i dont want to go off topic here

  • @michiman57 All this time you been calling the world and its people uneducated, primitive, superstitious, and when I ask you a simple question, about the origin of "ideas" you give me an uneducated answer. Knowledge itself is an accumulations of idea acquired by different methods. The empiricist/materialist/atheist say that ideas originate in the brain. And if you were a true atheist this would be your answer. Would you agree with my definition or not. You cant get more atheist than this.

  • @mjr2168 yes, i would say that is true. thats basically what i said except you put it in a more complicated term.

  • @michiman57 According to the laws of science made simple. Matter has an empirical property, it can be measured eg length, breadth, width, because it occupies space . Matter even if it changes it properties it can be measured. Since and "idea" or as you put it "knowledge" is a product of the brain, and the brain is matter/material/organ what is the length breadth, height of an "idea/knowledge.

  • @mjr2168 well ideas dont really have matter. the brain consists of cells called neurons, and the brain thinks by passing electrical signals between the neurons. energy does not have matter, but the neuron cells do. i still dont see what this has to do with god. could you get to the point?

  • @michiman57 you are right ideas don't have any form of matter, and it does not have energy too. (energy is not matter, but simplified it is a byproduct of matter and hence can be measured). Since an idea/knowledge does not occupy space and does not have a dimension and cannot be measured it does not belong to the material world in which atheistic scientist/materialist/brights are trapped. Knowledge belong to the other world, call it anything you like, some call it the spiritual

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  • @michiman57 ctd from 1: Many call it the kingdom of God, you call it the superstition of the uneducated, but the fact remains they have the answer to the origin of idea/knowledge but you bright have to clutch in the dark clinging to straw men. Right from the dawn of creation mankind has always attributed this great gift to man to the source of all knowledge God and right they are. Man is both matter and spirit, and mans knowledge belong to his spirit. The MIND IS GODS/KNOWLEDGE IS GODS.

  • @mjr2168 um noo.... the mind consists neurons and electrons and thats been proven. electrons arent spiritual. what you just said, wasnt evidence, its a theory based on your own belief and not facts. what is wrong with you? do i need to give you the definition of evidence? cause you have failed to show me any

  • @michiman57 Good try, but you lack basic science, it is the brain which consists of neurons, neurons are brain cells, matter/material. As I have proven (which atheist thrive on) for all to see here that "ideas/knowledge is not matter and in no way can you reduce it to matter. There is more to the human person than nerve cells and molecules. If our thoughts and ideas are just a secretion of the brain, just like bile from the liver, then why should I give them any value.

  • @mjr2168 i forgot to add that knowledge is stored in neurons. what you said does in no way prove the existence of any god

  • @michiman57 Either u are in denial, or Atheism has eliminated your knowledge or you've lost far more neuron that average. U want to be rational but hold an irrational view. U have not given me a rational answer to my view, but you are sure I am wrong. U cant explain how ideas and thought which are clearly non-material can arise naturally from non-thinking material and yet you say I am wrong. " The proof of Gods existence, is that without him u cannot prove anything". That is why you cant.

  • @mjr2168 i know idea/knowledge isnt matter, it is electrons passing through brain cells. i KNOW energy/knowledge/ideas are not matter. explain to me how that proves the existence of a god?

  • @michiman57 I gave you time to re- read the answers you gave me, did you notice you had a very hard time giving me a straight one. You began many of your sentences with Um, Well, I forgot, I know. Especially the "I Know" tells me that you don't know. You started with abstracts "consciousness" "mind" and then you tried to reduce non-matter to the forms of matter and energy electrons, neurons. The problems is atheist are deficient, they don't have the tools to explain non -matter concept.

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  • @michiman57 ctd from 1: with these great questions of life, which are mostly spiritual, atheist are so clumsy, that in they reductive methods, they botch their answers up. Its like doing a delicate tooth extraction with a hammer and chisel. They do get out the tooth, but in the bargain cause a lot of damage. I advice you to get some non - atheistic tool if you are searching for evidence for God. Add a bit of reason, philo, theo to your diet. It will not do u any harm.

  • @mjr2168 ok... you still didnt tell me how that is evidence for gods existence... you are just rambling off-topic.

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  • @michiman57 Look, theists can't prove God according to man-made scientific laws for good reason. They're man-made. God is above such whimsical nonsense. If we believed Him to be somehow subject to the very laws He caused into existence, then His perfect and absolute qualities would be nullified. You really have no business arriving at such a concrete conclusion of something that can't be proven or disproven scientifically.

  • @michiman57 YOU DEMONIC PERSON SAID; IF JESUS IS GOD, HE HAD SEX WITH HIS OWN MOTHER!

    SHOW US IN THE BIBLE WHERE IT SAYS THAT FILTH.

    AND ALSO EXPLAIN WHY DOES ALLAH LIKE BLOWING VAGINAS

  • Bible was very wrong about so many things.In one chapter it claims Ahaziah was 23,in next chapter it claims he was 42.Bible sed that one day can last 930 years.I can post more errors and contradictions and number or chapter so you can check it yourself.

    So when I have prooven that bible contains so many errors and contradictions, why you think that part about god is true?

    It is more possible that god dont exist because of errors in bible. If you believe in god, you choose less possible option.

  • @GamerEnterprise Try putting chapter and verses to your claims, then I will take you seriously. You have not proven anything, because you don't even know where they are.

  • miracles lead to disbelief. JESUS himself give credit to God for the miracles he perform, but Men gave him credit instead of God. Wake up Guys...

  • @julio14335 Jesus also says the father and I are one (John10:30). You forgot to mention that because it does not fit in you scope of bigotry. Add that to your comment and do the maths.

  • @mjr2168 President BUSH and TONY BLAIR are one in (IRAG)... oneness in purpose or else JUDAS is also a god + the 11 disciples, read the same JOHN...

  • @julio14335 One in purpose and one in Being are two different things. Tony Blair and Bush may be one in purpose but not one in being. Get your base premises correct. Humankind has one purpose but they are not one in being. The Father and I are one in being. Read John1: 1-14 that may clear things up

  • Black African use to belief in one God  before the coming of the Whiteman...

  • The title should be "Evidence Jesus Was Not God"

    I mean it's obvious he's a prophet , and every prophet has miracles ,,

  • A GOD, LOL LOL , - WHY would he need his foreskin removed if he was God.

    Also the part about commiting suicide on the cross is NONSENSE.

    Or is the Christian God a sadomasochist?

  • @arcz10 He was not only God, but God incarnate too. The incarnate part had to fulfill the laws of the Old Covenant because he was a jew hence his foreskin removed. It was self sacrifice not suicide. You wouldn't know the difference. LOL, LOL, I have the last laugh, it is definitely the loudest.

  • @mjr2168 you have missed the whole point of why Jewish MEN have to get circumcised- Its an act of cleansing on self physically , mentally as well as to remind us to keep our sexual desires in check. Is your God not pure or innocent? Also it is possible for boys to be born without a foreskin, or did your God have it removed so his penile blood can atone for the sins that you have yet to commit. Sounds like you have a sadomasochist God lol,

  • @arcz10 It looks like that you don't have the mental acuity to have a civilized conversation. The pagans may have such reason as you have mentioned for circumcision. But for the jew it was the external sign for the covenant God made with Abraham Gen 17:13 the seal of an everlasting covenant. You keep your pagan rituals and creep back into that primordial hole that you have come from. By your repetition of the word sadomasochist it seem for like a childish taunt than an intellectual argument.

  • So he's using the bible to prove the bible. Nice one bro. That isn't circular reasoning or anything

  • I'd love to see the equation that spat out the number he made up...

  • its my belief Jesus chrisst is in fact GOD. He is from GOD they are ONE with the holy spirit that is God's only Son that he truly loves and is a good son. They are the divine trinity the father the son and the holy spirit in ONE. Yes God sits on his throne but his son is the only worth one to sit at his right side as the prince of peace. God is not selfish, so yes Jesus is indeed the Lord the king of kings and the lord of lords. Jesus actually was willing to die for me and you.

  • dont give n 2 the deception satan intends 4 u. he wants u 2 believe & confess his doctrine/gospel..the same Nimrod (who was a mighty hunter before or against God) becoming the sun god (baal) & getting semiramis, who is suppose 2 b the moon goddess & queen of heaven, (thru immaculate conception) pregnant by his rays making tammuz (their son) the son of god. he too is called baal and was worshiped as god after he ascended 2 the sun/baal/god.this is the spirit of anti(instead of)christ.

  • Does Yahshua sit on the throne of God or (on a throne) at His right hand of the Father? Yahshua (the Lamb of God) takes the book out of the hand of Him that sat on the throne. There is no reason for us 2 b divided. we should b 1 n God. Let us reason humbly with each other.

  • He & the Father r one for He IS the Word of God. How were things created? by the (spoken) Word of God. Yahshua is a dispensation/impartation of our Father God just as the Holy Spirit is. Is the Holy Spirit God Himself. The Spirit "of" God moved upon the face of the waters. He breathed the Ruach n2 man but it doesnt make man God. This is an emanation OF Himself 4 the benefit of man/earth. He is too big 4 us 2 fully comprehend. We know n part now but we will sit w/Him & know from Him on this earth

  • @promised01 ...we will know from Him directly & clearly all we desire as we sit at His feet right here on this earth (Rev 21:1-3). what a wonderful time that will be! One thing have i desired of the LORD, that will i seek after; that i may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to behold the beauty of the LORD, and to enquire in His temple! HalleluYAH!

  • Why does Yahshua cry out 2 the Father, "my God! my God! why have You forsaken Me?" Notice that He never n His earthly ministry call Him God until the sins of the world r placed upon Him at which time there was the agonizing separation for sin verily separates from God. Has the Father Himself ever become sin? Yahshuah became sin 4 us. YHVH cannot die for He is Life. Again Yahshua is deity but is He God (by Himself)? No.

  • @promised01 what does God say in the bible? the only way to me is through my Son ive watched some videos on some nnear death experiences people that have crossed over and