uhhh cant we all jst watch the frikin concert?? imma elf <3 but i dont go on disrespecting other groups fan club.only if they are hatin on me, other elfs, and ESPECIAALLY SJ.it doesnt make sense (sometimes) when other fanclubs hate on the PEOPLE of the group cause in reality everyone worked there butts off to make a debut^^ and we should really respect that..yeah i know there are always the crazier fans in ever club out there i understand. but not all sones, tripple s', elf, cassies, wonderfuls.
Why can't people just watch the show? It's ok if you leave early, you might not like the next group. The SONE'S that are acting like this are in the spotlight, but every group has fans like this. Thankfully, normal fans out number these. Instead of booing the girls themselves, why not boo the fans? The girls did nothing, they're just doing their job.
it's not sone's fault, my relatives already told me, they are korea fans who joined this stuff.black ocean is common in korea, this was happen to other boyband. snsd is not the only one who got this thingy.
I don't know if I can 100% believe all that you wrote, considering if the sources you got the info from is reliable etc but I do agree that many become antis because of us SONES behavior. We need to support SNSD without bashing other groups/fans. Let's keep it classy :)
2pm ever got once on 2010 but it was planned by some fansclub who dislike 2pm popularity and they scared for their idol. i remember b2st almost being attacked by K-elf bc they have a lot fans than suju in korea(daum cafe) n they are more popular,but the news spreading faster and got into korean news so k-elf stop tht
i don't know but even i'm cassie but i'm still it doesn't make sense if it's sones fault, sorry
it doesnt make sense if u think by yourself why were they turning off the light together at the same time? it was 3 fandoms attacking snsd, u know that? bc it was planned before.
how they know it was sones' fault? bc the target to be blame is sones.
sones place were far from elf, cassie, and triple s how they had those photo with the knife and assumed that he's sones? this isn't in korean news bc it wasn't sones fault and that's all was planned by hatersfrom those fandoms
it doesnt make sense if u think by yourself why were they turning off the light together at the same time? it was 3 fandoms attacking snsd, u know that? bc it was planned before.
how they know it was sones' fault? bc the target to be blame is sones.
sones place were far from elf, cassie, and triple s how they had those photo with the knife and assumed that he's sones? this isn't in korean news bc it wasn't sones fault and that's all was planned by hatersfrom those fandoms
2pm ever got once on 2010 but it was planned by some fansclub who dislike 2pm popularity and they scared for their idol. i remember b2st almost being attacked by K-elf bc they have a lot fans than suju in korea(daum cafe) n they are more popular,but the news spreading faster and got into korean news so k-elf stop tht
i don't know but even i'm cassie but i'm still it doesn't make sense if it's sones fault, sorry
I'm a SONE and even that "agree" with some things, the point is: are you doing wrong. Don't have to hate the SNSD, they did nothing, who made these follies were we, the SONEs!
sometimes i don't understand why elfs and sones are fighting, snsd and suju are both from the same company right? and suju and snsd are really close, so why do the fans are like, hating each other?
where do ELFs get their sources from? please tell me you guys don't get your 'reliable' sources from people over the internet lol. most of you guys probably weren't even around when this happened nor do you know if this is true. if this really happened, korean media would've mentioned something, but no, they didn't. So many ELFs pass around info as if it's truth >>. talk about total delusion. just like that ELF girl on tumblr spreading rumors LOL or banas falsely accusing darlings of rape tsk.
i proud to be sone.....and will alway do.....not every sone will do that i jz one to say i love snsd and i nv hate other like wat is happening in this video i will nv do that
LOL @ people still fighting over this. It's already been cleared up ages ago that it wasn't SONEs that did this. It was the people in change in the stadium since the banners were too big. I would think that the security in a concert like this would be tight so how can 4 guys with knives surpass security in the first place? o_O??
In all fairness, not all Sones are asshats. I know a lot of Sones that are wonderful. There are antis and trolls in all fanclubs and that is an unfortunate reality. For a long time, I was pissed at certain fanclubs for various reasons until I finally woke up and realised that fanclubs are groups of people, not single units. Don't blame all Sones for what happened, blame the few retards who lost control.
I'm a full on Shawol, but some people really need to cop on and stop the hate. Grow up.
It's not fault of ELF's dont blame them -.- and it's not fault of SNSD so dont blame them too ...what already happened ,it happened ...it is past so forget it -.-' and dont blame anyone!!!
wow..its already 2012 and yet this shit still argued??? move on with ur life bitch.. i know ur life is boring as hell.. u like, u hate, who gave the fucking rat-ass?? just STFU!!!! pfft...bunch of cows.
don't bother reply, coz i wont waste my time for fools..
And then they still come up with the lamest excuses ever! Ripped ELFs banner and now putting the blame in someone else? As anyone didn't know what K-Sones did to take ELFs seats cause they think they needed more seats and SM wasn't willing to give them more. SONEs even made a campain to buy ELFs seats and planning to take it by force at the day of the concert. Admit if almoready
let's forget about this guy's it's freaking 2008 elf's already admit it and apologie's..so move on snsd now is top g-group so is suju they are friend's !!! don't mind immature fan's..
so long im not n k-pop well elf+cassiopia worst immature fandom's ever ~~2pm 100x hotter and good looking than them suju and tvxq are gay's untalented group they only have SM....
@sexycruellove10 xDDD You blame Antis for being proud of KEEPING SILENT while SNSD were performing, and you're not saying a thing about what SONEs did to other fanclubs? You're a hypocrite. I think it's much better that they kept silent in stead of shout out insults at SNSD, don't you think? What you're saying makes me wish this happens again each year, even though SNSD did nothing to deserve that. You SONEs are horrible.
sone didnt rip any banner, one of the staff did to make more seats for fans. the one who got 'raped' and beaten by sones was proven false, no police was involved. the girl who claimed that a sone broke her leg later on confessed on her cyworld that she had actually slipped
down the stairs when she was chasing after a sone for stepping on her banner (that person apologized but she went after him anyways). another claimed she was threaten by a sone saying he had a knife, it was proven false, instead it was only an mp3 player, news report about this was conducted by MBC, there was a youtube clip back then, cant find it anymore.
I like this video even though I am a Sone because it's true that most of the time anti's are created because of how their fanclubs act, which isn't really fair. Sone's, ELF's, Cassie's, B2TY's, BANA's, Bestfriends, Blackjacks, VIP's, Hottest's, and so on, we represent our idols so we should try our hardest to give our idols a good reputation by trying to be the most respected fanclub, not the most annoying fanclub.
fany clearly said snsd doesnt have sub-unit groups AS YOU CAN HEAR !!!
snsd was never being rude or disrespectful to anyone, or else they wouldnt have got this far and wouldnt be friends with any other group, this all happened because of some bitch who was jealous at them, ... and other stupid kids followed her and thats why all this stand stuff started or else snsd would just have as many ''haters'' as all the other groups, ...
to me it seems like all the so called "facts"(there is no evidence besides the whole she said-he said)are just to justify all the ones actions who did this to snsd. Because theyre argument is "SONEs fault.."but yeah, you guys who were involved made SNSD hurt not sone.SONES didnt suffer..SNSD did...the ones who were innocent but oh well i guess...
@MrKnowitstrue Only essensial thing is that jealous SUJU/DBSK fangirls hate SNSD since they are close to their OPPAs. Other crap are basically made up.
A Korean Program investigated this matter and found elfs are liars. That's why SJ is so infamous in Korea right now, they have no CF and no public respect while SNSD is on top of the bussiness.
@leannette22 it was proven that sones didn't rip the banners and didn't do anything btw in 2008,,and i love how elf apoligized on police station and admit it...even triple-s said on thumber that it was elf who ask them ,,,ehhehehhehe
SNSD and SONEs have it hard. Seriously, its like SONEs vs. all the possible fandoms in the fucking universe and its...all....because...some... retards... decided... to... get.. better... seats............funny? no its not. because its... Fucking Retarded.
BTW: Its because SNSD has been through all this shit that they were able to become the best.
agree agree with miyraheartdonghea :D those anti and sone are both out of their mind or every1 else that have stupid excuses to hate any girl band. thats all make me LOLOL
girl band exist for 1 purpose, its to entertain us, every1.
but some jst dont understand the sole purpose and act like a god criticize this and that, they think they some boss of entertainment world or what, that every words of them have to be heard.. dumb.
WHY CANT U ALL JUST ENJOY EACH OF GIRL BAND SONGS? THEY ALL GREAT SONG
I'm so happy that I am not a hater to any kpop groups.. I may not love-worshiping them very much but I would like to attend their concert with their balloons and all~ Prevent the black ocean from any groups!!! hey work hard when they are trainee and fulfill their dream... NOT to make people go to hospitals and stuff... And I bet they don't like it when their fans went too far.
Irrelevant but.. when I read the 'Aye?' part... I thought you were a pirate... Mianhae
Anti or Fans. I don't believe in helping in clearing one's name. If Soshi do something wrong, they clear it themselves. As for haters, I don't think putting another down will make themselves feel any happier. It may or will for awhile, but it will drain you out. When you are bothering so much about it, your idols are not really bothered. If they are really bothered they would have talk things out or fight it out with the other band. I believe in the end it is your own life that is affected.
Who cares how other fans behave, or what they write in their forums? Sones need to get their act together and understand that we don't rule the world. We don't decide who is good and who is not, who is right or wrong. But we do decide how we choose to conduct ourselves, whether as representatives of the girls at their best, or in response to comments about the girls when they aren't. And if by defending the girls you create more haters just so you can be right, then you are no true Sone.
Seriously, this is stupidly ridiculous. *Sones* only have themselves to blame.Try to be heroes and talk too much. Try to protect something they cannot ever defend. The girls can speak for themselves, by explaining themselves, understanding why it happened, and then deciding to change their ways. And that's what they have done. I write *Sones* because as a Sone, I don't consider them as such because all they have done is bring shame and embarassment to us fans and the girls we love.
@SGtwelfmunkis wow a Sone with some common sense. I respect you because you can admit snsd isn't perfect. It's not that I don't like them but I can't stand when they make a mistake and most sones act as if nothing happened.
@IluvSJ25 Common sense isn't common. I do make an effort to find it. Like I mentioned, I make a clear distinction between Sone and *Sone*. What many Sones don't understand is that it takes just 1 negative retort / reply / reaction to make them a *Sone*. They say that love is blind and this is just that. They feel justified, but in the end, it serves no purpose. It hurts the girls. They don't even understand that when the girls thank Sones, it isn't them anymore.
@SGtwelfmunkis what I mean by common sense is things like some of the girls got double eye lid surgery and it's pretty obvious they did, It doesn't make them bad people but most sones swear they didn't when clearly they did. Not thats there anything wrong with any kind of surgery cuz if we could all change something about ourselves most of us would. It's doesn't make them bad people or untalented. Anyway I totally get what your saying and where your coming from :)
@IluvSJ25 nowhhh ~~~ honey their all natural ~~double eyelid who ??in fact i have many many male and female old pic too XD.. im gonna download it on youtube too XDD
Seriously, I'm affraid that people hate SNSD just because of those crazy fans. Some people are just crazy and it's not sone's fault. It's crazy sones elf.. etc.
why must blame SONEs? am u are so good? wtf with ur video? how that you know that was a male SONEs that tore down the banner? you was there? see infront of ur eyes? dont just point the finger to others, Maybe that a male fan from other group? btw, i am not SONEs i am ELF and WF..Dont just point finger to others
@AncaGalihable im pretty sure you have'nt been in korea befor they take groups really seriosly thats why people don't like k-sones cause theyre the craziest plus you have'nt been a sone from the beggining so you can't say they arent sones since you werent there and don't know those people
@AncaGalihable i didnt say alll sones are too blame just K-sones and because of this and a couple of other things that is why "korean who live in korea " dont like korean sones because they tend to be crazy when it comes to defending snsd
@khat31able everyones crazy!! thats why i keep my distance from k pop fans...imo the craziest die hard fans are S♥nes and ELFs :)(the ones i tend to listen to most) They defend SJ and SNSD like crazies...&&they also do what they do^^!
@MrKnowitstrue i know right thats why i stopped reading comments on SNSD and SUJU videos because they just give me headaches after reading them since they can be really dullusional
@zulridzi Please don't think like that... there's some rude SONEs, as all fandoms have some rude fans... but most of us are really rational, not rude and will never hate on another group, especially not from SMfamily
I'm sorry guys..but...is this even important to be upload on u tube? geezzz criminal is just criminal don't associate it with fans club or anything that gives love
Fandom life so scary lately. Is that 'protect our idol' means hurting other idols? Use your brain! Fanwar is just childish and immature. The way fans act is the responsibility to the idol.
WTF! Can you guys shut up with this fanwar?! In each fandom there's a basher, sometimes even a FAKE fan. Sones, ELFs, and many other fandoms don't deserve to be called like that if they bash other idols! ELFs, Sones, and many other fandoms are supposed to be respectful! WTF is with this rumour. -_-
Well, only one thing is sure: Wonderfuls are the most respectful fandom in kpop. WFs will always gonna cheer for WG but never in a disrespectful way like the other fandoms did in this concert, using WG to embarrass SNSD. Im sure that even WG and WFs really felt bad about this.
So nice of you to say em' like that and yet play their music in your Vid... wow how many SNSD songs do u hv?? if ur a hater.. why bother even to have a single SNSD song?? why u even bother to search for their news?? i dnt even know this things although im a soone... wow ur so UP to date!! hehe ~ thx!! Psssttt Just support ur fav group or otherwise u'll be too busy hating SNSD and searching evidence and yet not have the time to support ur group...
@Theo2010Dora Hey, if you read the description instead of jumping the gun, you would know that the creator of this video is in support of SNSD, and is trying to stop anti-fans and false rumors from spreading, did you even watch the entire video? Because they are clearly defending SNSD.
@admiral4ever2 sry that time idk how to reply so i just post a comment to a wonderful that is an anti of SNSD and say that its all SNSD's fault Im so sorry
Actually, it wasn't really sones' fault. It was some overly obsessed snsd fans fault that led to this. And , we can't really blame Tiffany saying that snsd are not sub groups like Suju oppas. She is brought up overseas that was why she seemed kinda 'rude'. And, it wasn't elfs fault that they were angry with fany too ... But this was the past, now Fany is learning to adapt to K culture <3 SONELF are the best !
that's why i hate sones , they love to bash others girl groups or boy groups . But thr always have sones who is good . I loved snsd but the way the sones go to other groups to argue just make me hate them . Did you heard before , THE WAY THE FANS ACT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE IDOL . So, sones , if you want other people to respect your idol pls respect the others idols also . I dont hate snsd but i just hate the way the fans act . -.-
I agree with the latest comments.. is too much generalize, this was fault of stupid people who don't deserve call themselves fans of any group! that persons made ELF and other fandoms angry and turn their back to SNSD and that caused so much pain in our girls ;W; Is not SONEs or ELFs fault is just thats STUPID and violent haters who have no life -.-
I'm totally not a sone, but to generalize a whole fanclub is too much. Truth, I hate a lot of sones because of their behavior, but not all of them are small minded and crazy, there are always the normal ones, that support their idols, keep to themselves and avoid the fights. They are the ones that we should respect, because we know that they will respect our own idols.
@ MiniminiStrategy1 sorry did i wrote all elfs? if i did then i'm sorry
of course i know not all elfs are like that but most of those anti snsd are elf or bj
trust me...it's true and i can't believe they still continue to hate snsd it's like snsd can never satisfy them bcuz they'll always find something that they can bach or complain about -.-
LOL ok dont bash me for this but why is eveybody so sure it was a sone that tore the banner? (whos banner was it anyway) I am a sone too but physically hitting and tearing down other fandom's stuff is what cavemen will do, im disgusted with that guys actions -.- AND it was not sones fault it was only one sone so you guys should hunt him down instead of bashing SNSD and other sones. I found out about this recently so im just curious LOL
hey anti-snsd fan here,why is some person saying that we hate snsd bcos they are plastic.i dont give a damm about them doing plastic surgery cos korea is yeah know.why r u judging all the antis?
Hi =D I really did hope ANTI-SNSD can understand this , SNSD DOESN'T HATE YOU , but those who hate you is some SONE that supporting SNSD in their wrong way ( being rude and insult other group ) yes I am SONE but I can understand you guys ANTI-SNSD feelings =( but think again , SNSD DIDN'T DO ANYTHING IN HURTING YOU GUYS =( Im not want to saying anything ut just hope that ANTI-SNSD can understand =) I did respect ANTI's activities but I really hopes WE ALL can stop insult each others =(
well, some of u said that there are bad sones. doesnt it mean that sone isnt 1? there is still bad and good sones? LOL then whats up with sones+snsd=1 when there are alr 2 groups of sones?
Thx 4 creating this vid. I agree with you even though i love both groups. But i ever thought of oining SONEs. And the next thing i knew was i did not. Because of tiffany. She sort of insulted SUJU.
@Misswonderjunior@chefurrules I'm not anti :3 be happy and, let them be happy too :) don't insult them, what did they made you to hate them? this things of antis don't have any sense,is my opinion, ^^ but if someday you are very close to them haha i mean,1 meter, DON'T kill them haha or don't hurt them :) lol they are humans, other point is: if my oppa in the future have a girlfriend gonna be like: iaygyucv T.T but i'll be happy for him, and i'll say: we can be friends yet lol
that;s noy a knife actually. i've seen another picture about that picture and that man held a camera, not a knife. he was looking his pictures in the camera's screen that's why it was shining. a knife wouldn't shining like that.
I know many ELF must have had their heart broken by this incident but maybe, just maybe, it's time for both ELF n SONE to move on n benefit each other by making peace.
I mean, Black communities in South Africa forgave the white communities despite decades of Apartheid (racial segregation) n the blacks n whites harmonized. Compare to that, this is merely a petty fight. ELF n SONE r like cousins since SuJu n SNSD r from same company. We can harmonize like South Africans!
I admit some sones did wrong&rude. If you hate it, u should hate sones but not snsd. snsd didn't know anything about it, and they didn't do anything wrong. i'm a sone and i'll say SORRY although I didn't went to this dream concert . (and during year 2008 I'm still not a sone yet) please don't blame or hate SNSD. I will be very thankful ><'' at last, I wanna say SORRY to all fandoms if we sones did any wrong=( please forgive us. and of course, SNSD..TQverymuch!
@RaraAoi 95% anti snsd are elf @@ and in our SONE fan forum, you know what our rules is ? NEVER bashing other group, even suju.@@ but if you take a look at suju fan forum....most elf anti snsd, saying the wrongs things about snsd.
@watru1234 You cannot deny there are elements that leads to this. Even though I am a Sone myself. Sometimes, things dies off when we just let go and not argue. What is the point of arguing? Your pride of being a fan? To defend the group you love? I believe the group you love will know how to defend themselves. It is not easy to let down your pride, but if that solve things, why not. It is because you respond to those that will case things to be worse.
@everlysetay IM never argue =.=" and you called your self a sone lol thats funny, if you're a sone you should support snsd. and to me, im never bashing other k-band, im just saying that we should end the fan war between sone and elf.
@watru1234 I am sorry if i have offended you in any way. I am actually writing in general. I am not going to comment on anything else but i would like to know your definition of support :)
@murlovely okay I admit some sones did wrong&rude. If you hate it, u should hate sones but not snsd. snsd didn't know anything about it, and they didn't do anything wrong. i'm a sone and i'll say SORRY although I didn't went to this dream concert . (and during year 2008 I'm still not a sone yet) please don't blame or hate SNSD. I will be very thankful ><'' at last, I wanna say SORRY to all fandoms if we sones did any wrong=( please forgive us. and of course, SNSD..TQverymuch!
@cn2583 Aww ... if you said that ... I'll think about it . Sone is different . Some sone nice ( like you ) some rude like some one you know who :) But well , just wait , maybe i will stop hating S9 , maybe , just maybe :D
Just because the SONE's there supposedly did this (I still doubt most of it is true) doesn't mean you have to hate on the girls and every SONE out there, not all of us are like that. There are crazy people everywhere and every single fandom has crazy people in them. So stop with the bias shit because its getting old when you blame a whole bunch of people who did nothing.
no. its not an elf's fault or sone's fault. let we think. its because stupid people. elf and sone are name of fandom. people who like suju is an elf people who like snsd is a sone. outside that fact, if there is something wrong its a person fault. just not bring your fandom' name! elf said 'sone is denial" sone said that too to an elf. thats not true at all. the denial one is A PERSON WHO STUPID WHO PROUD OF BEING HATER!
If Antis' reason is really because of Sones then there should be no anti SNSD. How about changing it to Anti-SONE its better if we are the ones having haters....
N also, I'm sorry for criticizing ur mentality n what not. I know this unfortunate incident was personal to u n u have all the rights to criticize who u believe is guilty. I just hope one day, u'll forgive n forget 'some' SONE who committed this atrocity n learn to not generalize all SONE as bad people. I'm just a dude who's tired of seeing ELF n SONE fight like mad dogs.
@J2Y3S2TH 2nd comment: I am sorry, too, if I took things too far. I don't think think all SONEs are bad, and I, too, am tired of ELF/SONE quarrels. I'm happy I met a good SONE, I guess.
Well, pretty much every country has racist people... In Korea, there is still quite a few who don't really like Chinese n Japanese... Still, it will be nice to visit Eastern Europe one day because I heard it's quite different than Western Europe (partially because of former Soviet Union).
thanks, although I'm not really a nice SONE. If I was, I wouldn't have fought with u. Sorry about that. I thought u were just SONE hater but u said u have SONE friends. Nice to meet u. ^^
@J2Y3S2TH Well, I hope you visit then, since you want to. It's cool that you know so much, didn't expect that, since you lice so far away. Well, yeah, you fought, but I fought back, so I'm not exactly a nice ELF, either. I'm not a SONE hater, I'm a bad-SONE hater, I guess. xD Nice to meet you too. ^^
Dear ELF n SONE, we must accept each other's mistakes in the past (hate speech on internet, act of violence in concerts, n ganging up on one another), forgive each other, n move on. Many SONE n ELF managed to do that despite continued conflict in 09 n 10 concert. It is time for the remaining others to do the same. Peace is beneficial to both Suju n SNSD. What say, u? No more endless blame game! PEACE!
Guess this is what I get when I try to be a moderate (meaning supporting/criticizing both ELF n SONE). It's okay, my Serbian friend. Hope u have a good life in ur Balkan state. Visit Korea one day n find our more about K-ELF n K-SONE n how extreme some of them can be.
No, But I know many nations in Eastern Europe (actually, practically all Western world) is suffering from deficit including Canada where I'm living in so I said wish best of luck to Serbia. Serbians r generally nationalistic people just like Koreans n I like u guys. I have no bad feeling towards your nation in any way. In fact, I hope to visit there one day along with other nations in Balkan peninsula.
@J2Y3S2TH Well, I don't know you just mentioned my nationality too many times in one comment, so it seemed like you were making fun of my nationality. I suggest you stay away from Balkans, since young people here aren't really found of Asians... I hate to be among such people, so I thought you were making prejudices about me too. I'm sorry.
Everything is true but it sort of seems like your blaming all sones. I'm pretty sure some of them have the respect and common sense not to fuck with cassies and elfs I'm pretty neutral on it I think all the groups should just show respect and go on their merry little ways enjoying the music.
@BeBeAyumiReturns Wanna know why? Because SONEs ripped ELF's poster of Super Junior while SuJu were preforming on stage, right in front of them! You better shut your mouth and learn your place, pathetic SONE.
aye sir.. hehe.. or aye madame.. hehe..
gawattt 3 days ago
I'm a sone, and i hate this kind of Sone's so badly T_T
Real Sone's will never do this kind of stuff, they know the only thing that can happen are more anti's, and that is the last thing we want.
Real Sone's will support SNSD, AND other groups, and if they dont like a group they dont listen or watch them, and dont spend attention on them.
mel4melever 3 days ago
as worse as english football hooligans :D
LaGantoise 1 week ago
Every fan club must have people like this too.
Not every fans are like that though.
Ugh REAL fans do not get into wars with other fans cuhs they know that will make their idol's image go down ;C
MirroTea 1 week ago
LOL bunch of idiots :P
kelvinrockzjellytotz 1 week ago
True...True...
AliceInSHINeeWorld 1 week ago
uhhh cant we all jst watch the frikin concert?? imma elf <3 but i dont go on disrespecting other groups fan club.only if they are hatin on me, other elfs, and ESPECIAALLY SJ.it doesnt make sense (sometimes) when other fanclubs hate on the PEOPLE of the group cause in reality everyone worked there butts off to make a debut^^ and we should really respect that..yeah i know there are always the crazier fans in ever club out there i understand. but not all sones, tripple s', elf, cassies, wonderfuls.
OhYummyYesung 2 weeks ago
Why can't people just watch the show? It's ok if you leave early, you might not like the next group. The SONE'S that are acting like this are in the spotlight, but every group has fans like this. Thankfully, normal fans out number these. Instead of booing the girls themselves, why not boo the fans? The girls did nothing, they're just doing their job.
Cluey62 2 weeks ago
@Cluey62 no no
it's not sone's fault, my relatives already told me, they are korea fans who joined this stuff.black ocean is common in korea, this was happen to other boyband. snsd is not the only one who got this thingy.
MrEverlastingfriends 2 weeks ago
every fans in each countries have different type but this is common in korea
korea elf cassie triple s etc have bad behaviour side cuz korean fans have strongest love towards their idols
PS: don't generalize fandom every fandom have immature fans and bad behaviour side
MrEverlastingfriends 2 weeks ago
i already know the truth coz i have a relative in korea
they were there and they were joined in doing that stuff
black ocean is common in korea there are such a combination fans who wants to join and they gather to plan creating black ocean
this was happen to other boyband -cont
MrEverlastingfriends 2 weeks ago
I don't know if I can 100% believe all that you wrote, considering if the sources you got the info from is reliable etc but I do agree that many become antis because of us SONES behavior. We need to support SNSD without bashing other groups/fans. Let's keep it classy :)
hAiSuMiYuMi 2 weeks ago
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i really think it's planning.
all happend is so neatly.
but do you think abt karma?
the member of suju, dbsk, ss501 is not complete anymore.
i'm sorry to be honest
Mr2ne1nolja 2 weeks ago
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@SIManiacah123
haters gonna hate baby, snsd is bunch of good people and beautiful ladies and they are easy to be close with anyone
so much reaction from the crazy oppa fangirls when they are close with their oppars
cassiehomin 2 weeks ago
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do u know that?
2pm ever got once on 2010 but it was planned by some fansclub who dislike 2pm popularity and they scared for their idol. i remember b2st almost being attacked by K-elf bc they have a lot fans than suju in korea(daum cafe) n they are more popular,but the news spreading faster and got into korean news so k-elf stop tht
i don't know but even i'm cassie but i'm still it doesn't make sense if it's sones fault, sorry
cassiehomin 2 weeks ago
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it doesnt make sense if u think by yourself why were they turning off the light together at the same time? it was 3 fandoms attacking snsd, u know that? bc it was planned before.
how they know it was sones' fault? bc the target to be blame is sones.
sones place were far from elf, cassie, and triple s how they had those photo with the knife and assumed that he's sones? this isn't in korean news bc it wasn't sones fault and that's all was planned by hatersfrom those fandoms
i admit it
the end
cassiehomin 2 weeks ago
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it doesnt make sense if u think by yourself why were they turning off the light together at the same time? it was 3 fandoms attacking snsd, u know that? bc it was planned before.
how they know it was sones' fault? bc the target to be blame is sones.
sones place were far from elf, cassie, and triple s how they had those photo with the knife and assumed that he's sones? this isn't in korean news bc it wasn't sones fault and that's all was planned by hatersfrom those fandoms
i admit it
the end
cassiehomin 2 weeks ago
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do u know that?
2pm ever got once on 2010 but it was planned by some fansclub who dislike 2pm popularity and they scared for their idol. i remember b2st almost being attacked by K-elf bc they have a lot fans than suju in korea(daum cafe) n they are more popular,but the news spreading faster and got into korean news so k-elf stop tht
i don't know but even i'm cassie but i'm still it doesn't make sense if it's sones fault, sorry
cassiehomin 2 weeks ago
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i really think it's planning.
all happend is so neatly.
but do you think abt karma?
the member of suju, dbsk, ss501 is not complete anymore.
i'm sorry to be honest
Mr2ne1nolja 2 weeks ago
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oh GOD it's sad truth but so true :(
cassiehomin 2 weeks ago
I'm a SONE and even that "agree" with some things, the point is: are you doing wrong. Don't have to hate the SNSD, they did nothing, who made these follies were we, the SONEs!
If you have to hate someone, hate us SONEs
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cassiehomin 2 weeks ago
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@SIManiacah123
haters gonna hate baby, snsd is bunch of good people and beautiful ladies and they are easy to be close with anyone
so much reaction from the crazy oppa fangirls when they are close with their oppars
cassiehomin 2 weeks ago
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lol i'm here bcoz i'm curious about this happened but i really think it's not sone making mistake.
i search all and talking with my sister who is hardcore elf then she said "i thought it's pure planning by snsd anti"
eventhough this elf action.
Mr2ne1nolja 2 weeks ago
sometimes i don't understand why elfs and sones are fighting, snsd and suju are both from the same company right? and suju and snsd are really close, so why do the fans are like, hating each other?
pulenpulen 2 weeks ago
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show me police reports and korean news articles about this and i'll believe it
TheKty09 2 weeks ago
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where do ELFs get their sources from? please tell me you guys don't get your 'reliable' sources from people over the internet lol. most of you guys probably weren't even around when this happened nor do you know if this is true. if this really happened, korean media would've mentioned something, but no, they didn't. So many ELFs pass around info as if it's truth >>. talk about total delusion. just like that ELF girl on tumblr spreading rumors LOL or banas falsely accusing darlings of rape tsk.
TheKty09 2 weeks ago
no offense but i'm sure this all was planned by other fansclub even i'm cassie but i believe it's not sones fault
as u know, 2pm ever got once by other fansclub bc they dislike 2pm popularity so they scared 2pm won their idols
this all was planned and honestly i don't like korean fans
cassiehomin 2 weeks ago
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lol i think ELF wouldn't chant wondergirls, also not cassies and tripleS..
and i don't think this is true.. my opinion u_u
MissWonderholic 3 weeks ago
i proud to be sone.....and will alway do.....not every sone will do that i jz one to say i love snsd and i nv hate other like wat is happening in this video i will nv do that
snsdmylife1 3 weeks ago
@MiniminiStrategy1 @Katherinegrowth @EvChamTH FINALLY SOME SMART PEOPLE HERE!!!!
And yes, it's SONEs' fault completely. Not SNSD's, not ELF's.
And yes, foreign SONEs are nice and most of them are SONELF.
And not all SONEs are morons... I've met quite a few normal ones ^^
But, I'll continue on disliking SNSD because of all the unfairness ELF received from SONEs.
Hyukjae4everyword 3 weeks ago
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LOL @ people still fighting over this. It's already been cleared up ages ago that it wasn't SONEs that did this. It was the people in change in the stadium since the banners were too big. I would think that the security in a concert like this would be tight so how can 4 guys with knives surpass security in the first place? o_O??
TheKty09 2 weeks ago
In all fairness, not all Sones are asshats. I know a lot of Sones that are wonderful. There are antis and trolls in all fanclubs and that is an unfortunate reality. For a long time, I was pissed at certain fanclubs for various reasons until I finally woke up and realised that fanclubs are groups of people, not single units. Don't blame all Sones for what happened, blame the few retards who lost control.
I'm a full on Shawol, but some people really need to cop on and stop the hate. Grow up.
IHeartBingo 3 weeks ago
It's not fault of ELF's dont blame them -.- and it's not fault of SNSD so dont blame them too ...what already happened ,it happened ...it is past so forget it -.-' and dont blame anyone!!!
GagaBigFan 3 weeks ago
hey guys, stop it really -.-
it's 2012!!!!!!!
why don't you just love SONE, ELF, SNSD, SUJU ??
well if you hate them, then just keep it for your own self!
DON'T BASH~
JUST STOP IT -.-
RaraAoi 1 month ago
wow..its already 2012 and yet this shit still argued??? move on with ur life bitch.. i know ur life is boring as hell.. u like, u hate, who gave the fucking rat-ass?? just STFU!!!! pfft...bunch of cows.
don't bother reply, coz i wont waste my time for fools..
MrAdonis258 1 month ago
And then they still come up with the lamest excuses ever! Ripped ELFs banner and now putting the blame in someone else? As anyone didn't know what K-Sones did to take ELFs seats cause they think they needed more seats and SM wasn't willing to give them more. SONEs even made a campain to buy ELFs seats and planning to take it by force at the day of the concert. Admit if almoready
MillieELF 1 month ago
let's forget about this guy's it's freaking 2008 elf's already admit it and apologie's..so move on snsd now is top g-group so is suju they are friend's !!! don't mind immature fan's..
13superjuniorSMEsuck 1 month ago
so long im not n k-pop well elf+cassiopia worst immature fandom's ever ~~2pm 100x hotter and good looking than them suju and tvxq are gay's untalented group they only have SM....
2pmlove4 1 month ago
i heard it's elf,cass,and tripple-s so glad wonderful's not part of this...
facethefact12 1 month ago 15
immature's so proud they done it to snsd WTF ~~
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MissSimpleBitches 1 week ago
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@sexycruellove10 xDDD You blame Antis for being proud of KEEPING SILENT while SNSD were performing, and you're not saying a thing about what SONEs did to other fanclubs? You're a hypocrite. I think it's much better that they kept silent in stead of shout out insults at SNSD, don't you think? What you're saying makes me wish this happens again each year, even though SNSD did nothing to deserve that. You SONEs are horrible.
MissSimpleBitches 1 week ago
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sone didnt rip any banner, one of the staff did to make more seats for fans. the one who got 'raped' and beaten by sones was proven false, no police was involved. the girl who claimed that a sone broke her leg later on confessed on her cyworld that she had actually slipped
MrSnsdforever99 1 month ago 10
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down the stairs when she was chasing after a sone for stepping on her banner (that person apologized but she went after him anyways). another claimed she was threaten by a sone saying he had a knife, it was proven false, instead it was only an mp3 player, news report about this was conducted by MBC, there was a youtube clip back then, cant find it anymore.
MrSnsdforever99 1 month ago 12
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I find it funny some kids are still proud of this incident and actually believes the rumors spreaded by those you-know-what fangirls lol
MrSnsdforever99 1 month ago 11
I like this video even though I am a Sone because it's true that most of the time anti's are created because of how their fanclubs act, which isn't really fair. Sone's, ELF's, Cassie's, B2TY's, BANA's, Bestfriends, Blackjacks, VIP's, Hottest's, and so on, we represent our idols so we should try our hardest to give our idols a good reputation by trying to be the most respected fanclub, not the most annoying fanclub.
skatetildeath1000 1 month ago 6
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fany clearly said snsd doesnt have sub-unit groups AS YOU CAN HEAR !!!
snsd was never being rude or disrespectful to anyone, or else they wouldnt have got this far and wouldnt be friends with any other group, this all happened because of some bitch who was jealous at them, ... and other stupid kids followed her and thats why all this stand stuff started or else snsd would just have as many ''haters'' as all the other groups, ...
cr: heesicapwns
MrSnsdforever99 1 month ago 9
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mp3 player = knive??
HOW DOES THAT EVEN LOOK LIKE A KNIVE?
and why a SONE?
sones are in front of the person under triple s (as someone stated in here before..)
ripping off a suju banner?
cr: heesicapwns
MrSnsdforever99 1 month ago
to me it seems like all the so called "facts"(there is no evidence besides the whole she said-he said)are just to justify all the ones actions who did this to snsd. Because theyre argument is "SONEs fault.."but yeah, you guys who were involved made SNSD hurt not sone.SONES didnt suffer..SNSD did...the ones who were innocent but oh well i guess...
MrKnowitstrue 1 month ago
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@MrKnowitstrue Only essensial thing is that jealous SUJU/DBSK fangirls hate SNSD since they are close to their OPPAs. Other crap are basically made up.
A Korean Program investigated this matter and found elfs are liars. That's why SJ is so infamous in Korea right now, they have no CF and no public respect while SNSD is on top of the bussiness.
cr :Guest_riavyo_*
MrSnsdforever99 1 month ago 5
whatever, go ahead immature butthurt elf
xxxvvvqqq 1 month ago
@xxxvvvqqq why do just assume its an ELF whatever, go ahead immature butthurt sone
khat31able 1 month ago
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@khat31able as if elf tripple don't admit that they are the main character ehehhehehe oh i forgot 1 fandom's
MrSnsdforever99 1 month ago
IT'S SONE FAULT!!...reckless and they don't have brains!!!
...SNSD IS SUFFERING BECAUSE OF THE STUPID SONE!!!!...
leannette22 1 month ago
@leannette22 calm down...every fandom has its bad apples ;P
MrKnowitstrue 1 month ago
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@leannette22 it was proven that sones didn't rip the banners and didn't do anything btw in 2008,,and i love how elf apoligized on police station and admit it...even triple-s said on thumber that it was elf who ask them ,,,ehhehehhehe
MrSnsdforever99 1 month ago 9
Its not S♥NE's fault.
xXlccporXx 1 month ago
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SNSD and SONEs have it hard. Seriously, its like SONEs vs. all the possible fandoms in the fucking universe and its...all....because...some... retards... decided... to... get.. better... seats............funny? no its not. because its... Fucking Retarded.
BTW: Its because SNSD has been through all this shit that they were able to become the best.
I guess thanks anti's. Go Rot in hell now.
Seraphix02 1 month ago
Hm, I am a proud SONE, and I didn't go to that concert. I have NEVER been to any SNSD concert because I live in New Zealand.
So its still my fault right? That's what you are saying.
I believe that every fandom at that concert were in the wrong, even SONEs.
But the way that you are blaming SONEs comes across as if you're blaming EVERY SONE.
Which makes no sense because I for one have only been a fan since 2010.
It's not all of our fault.Only some. But you get that in every fandom.
Thank you.
kawaiigurl3 1 month ago
@kawaiigurl3 the uploader isnt blaming all sones just the ones at the concert
khat31able 1 month ago
omg @PLueDot you are my hero...
SappyTedjajuwana 1 month ago
agree agree with miyraheartdonghea :D those anti and sone are both out of their mind or every1 else that have stupid excuses to hate any girl band. thats all make me LOLOL
girl band exist for 1 purpose, its to entertain us, every1.
but some jst dont understand the sole purpose and act like a god criticize this and that, they think they some boss of entertainment world or what, that every words of them have to be heard.. dumb.
WHY CANT U ALL JUST ENJOY EACH OF GIRL BAND SONGS? THEY ALL GREAT SONG
lovebabeslol 1 month ago
its not the artist fault,not the fandoms fault..its AN INSANE HUMAN FAULT...
MiyraHeartDonghea 1 month ago
Actually~ the SNSD silence is because of this /2009/10/conspiracy_between_the_fan_clubs_snsd_vs_shinee ... (put the allkpop url b4 it)
KayPopLuv 1 month ago
@KayPopLuv wha...thank you!!!! i'm so proud that the shawols didn't buy that!!!
Theuchihahyuuga 1 month ago
I'm so happy that I am not a hater to any kpop groups.. I may not love-worshiping them very much but I would like to attend their concert with their balloons and all~ Prevent the black ocean from any groups!!! hey work hard when they are trainee and fulfill their dream... NOT to make people go to hospitals and stuff... And I bet they don't like it when their fans went too far.
Irrelevant but.. when I read the 'Aye?' part... I thought you were a pirate... Mianhae
I'm not a SONE, I'm not an ANTI
KayPopLuv 1 month ago
Anti or Fans. I don't believe in helping in clearing one's name. If Soshi do something wrong, they clear it themselves. As for haters, I don't think putting another down will make themselves feel any happier. It may or will for awhile, but it will drain you out. When you are bothering so much about it, your idols are not really bothered. If they are really bothered they would have talk things out or fight it out with the other band. I believe in the end it is your own life that is affected.
everlysetay 1 month ago
Who cares how other fans behave, or what they write in their forums? Sones need to get their act together and understand that we don't rule the world. We don't decide who is good and who is not, who is right or wrong. But we do decide how we choose to conduct ourselves, whether as representatives of the girls at their best, or in response to comments about the girls when they aren't. And if by defending the girls you create more haters just so you can be right, then you are no true Sone.
SGtwelfmunkis 1 month ago
Seriously, this is stupidly ridiculous. *Sones* only have themselves to blame.Try to be heroes and talk too much. Try to protect something they cannot ever defend. The girls can speak for themselves, by explaining themselves, understanding why it happened, and then deciding to change their ways. And that's what they have done. I write *Sones* because as a Sone, I don't consider them as such because all they have done is bring shame and embarassment to us fans and the girls we love.
SGtwelfmunkis 1 month ago
@SGtwelfmunkis wow a Sone with some common sense. I respect you because you can admit snsd isn't perfect. It's not that I don't like them but I can't stand when they make a mistake and most sones act as if nothing happened.
IluvSJ25 1 month ago
@IluvSJ25 Common sense isn't common. I do make an effort to find it. Like I mentioned, I make a clear distinction between Sone and *Sone*. What many Sones don't understand is that it takes just 1 negative retort / reply / reaction to make them a *Sone*. They say that love is blind and this is just that. They feel justified, but in the end, it serves no purpose. It hurts the girls. They don't even understand that when the girls thank Sones, it isn't them anymore.
SGtwelfmunkis 1 month ago
@SGtwelfmunkis what I mean by common sense is things like some of the girls got double eye lid surgery and it's pretty obvious they did, It doesn't make them bad people but most sones swear they didn't when clearly they did. Not thats there anything wrong with any kind of surgery cuz if we could all change something about ourselves most of us would. It's doesn't make them bad people or untalented. Anyway I totally get what your saying and where your coming from :)
IluvSJ25 1 month ago
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@IluvSJ25 nowhhh ~~~ honey their all natural ~~double eyelid who ??in fact i have many many male and female old pic too XD.. im gonna download it on youtube too XDD
MrSnsdforever99 1 month ago
It's so funny, that Sones still deny the fact that this was their fault.
radat98 1 month ago
Not all sones are rude. Dont stereotype sones to be like that just cus of one or ttwo
Blingsified 1 month ago
Seriously, I'm affraid that people hate SNSD just because of those crazy fans. Some people are just crazy and it's not sone's fault. It's crazy sones elf.. etc.
ImChockingWithYou 2 months ago
really dont like this vid.
why must blame SONEs? am u are so good? wtf with ur video? how that you know that was a male SONEs that tore down the banner? you was there? see infront of ur eyes? dont just point the finger to others, Maybe that a male fan from other group? btw, i am not SONEs i am ELF and WF..Dont just point finger to others
ankoRaNg 2 months ago 3
That's not Sone fault.
that's tottally a fault of people who proud to be haters. STUPID!
they're not SONEs or ELF or the other fansclub.
They just told and assume that they're SONEs.
BUT THEY ARE NOT!!!
AncaGalihable 2 months ago 31
@AncaGalihable im pretty sure you have'nt been in korea befor they take groups really seriosly thats why people don't like k-sones cause theyre the craziest plus you have'nt been a sone from the beggining so you can't say they arent sones since you werent there and don't know those people
khat31able 1 month ago
@khat31able i didn't at the concert when it was happened.
this video just from one sone. but there's so many sone in the world.
so if one of sone in Korea had a fault, do you say that that's a fault of sone in japan too?
do you say that's a fault of sone in Indonesia too?
what a stupid think!
whatever, even if i'm a new sone, or i'm not, i know which one is right!
YOU GUYS STILL CAN'T BLAME SONE AND SNSD.
thank you
AncaGalihable 1 month ago
@AncaGalihable i didnt say alll sones are too blame just K-sones and because of this and a couple of other things that is why "korean who live in korea " dont like korean sones because they tend to be crazy when it comes to defending snsd
khat31able 1 month ago
@khat31able everyones crazy!! thats why i keep my distance from k pop fans...imo the craziest die hard fans are S♥nes and ELFs :)(the ones i tend to listen to most) They defend SJ and SNSD like crazies...&&they also do what they do^^!
MrKnowitstrue 1 month ago
@MrKnowitstrue i know right thats why i stopped reading comments on SNSD and SUJU videos because they just give me headaches after reading them since they can be really dullusional
khat31able 1 month ago
@khat31able agreed
MrKnowitstrue 1 month ago
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@MrKnowitstrue it was proven that sones didn't rip the banners and didn't do anything btw in 2008
MrSnsdforever99 1 month ago 10
@AncaGalihable please, not all sones have to be goody-goody fans.
xxbluexx123 3 weeks ago
if there's one or two bad jerk from every fandom ,
you shouldn't judge all the fandom are bad too
angeltaeyeon95 2 months ago 2
@angeltaeyeon95 yeah you are right. i am going to express this out and u got it ! ^^
SNSDdevoter 2 months ago
i love the one who made this vid.. ^^ hwaiting
Romir0412 2 months ago
@Romir0412 IKR! I just wish SNSD and Super Junior could see this ^.^
RandomDawg1 2 months ago
oops. i didnt know it was my fault. i didnt even know them in 2008 but since im a sone i guess its my fault then.
bratz3244 2 months ago
I hate snsd all because of Sones..!!..Sones are so rude..
zulridzi 2 months ago
@zulridzi Please don't think like that... there's some rude SONEs, as all fandoms have some rude fans... but most of us are really rational, not rude and will never hate on another group, especially not from SMfamily
SooyoungFTW 2 months ago
@zulridzi you're right!
Romir0412 2 months ago
Lol, lets make rumors facts!!!111!!
At least it's better than blaming SNSD.
PortableEmo 2 months ago
I'm sorry guys..but...is this even important to be upload on u tube? geezzz criminal is just criminal don't associate it with fans club or anything that gives love
LvCatsify 2 months ago
Fandom life so scary lately. Is that 'protect our idol' means hurting other idols? Use your brain! Fanwar is just childish and immature. The way fans act is the responsibility to the idol.
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NewxBeginnings 2 months ago
Both SNSD & SONE are so impolite=[
yeebabby 2 months ago
@yeebabby you dont seem to be all too polite either -_-;
moonlightmenuett 2 months ago
I bet the most of the SONES disliked this.
PS: I'm also a sone
thehazelnut69 2 months ago
WTF! Can you guys shut up with this fanwar?! In each fandom there's a basher, sometimes even a FAKE fan. Sones, ELFs, and many other fandoms don't deserve to be called like that if they bash other idols! ELFs, Sones, and many other fandoms are supposed to be respectful! WTF is with this rumour. -_-
canastacio27 2 months ago
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ikr! I really do believe that the fake fans are the ones who were doing this...
it's just so heart-breaking to see our idols and the real fans suffer because of stupid and pathetic fake fans;(
annerheneth0201 2 months ago
Well, only one thing is sure: Wonderfuls are the most respectful fandom in kpop. WFs will always gonna cheer for WG but never in a disrespectful way like the other fandoms did in this concert, using WG to embarrass SNSD. Im sure that even WG and WFs really felt bad about this.
urBobbleHead 2 months ago
So nice of you to say em' like that and yet play their music in your Vid... wow how many SNSD songs do u hv?? if ur a hater.. why bother even to have a single SNSD song?? why u even bother to search for their news?? i dnt even know this things although im a soone... wow ur so UP to date!! hehe ~ thx!! Psssttt Just support ur fav group or otherwise u'll be too busy hating SNSD and searching evidence and yet not have the time to support ur group...
Theo2010Dora 2 months ago 19
@Theo2010Dora Hey, if you read the description instead of jumping the gun, you would know that the creator of this video is in support of SNSD, and is trying to stop anti-fans and false rumors from spreading, did you even watch the entire video? Because they are clearly defending SNSD.
admiral4ever2 1 month ago
@admiral4ever2 sry that time idk how to reply so i just post a comment to a wonderful that is an anti of SNSD and say that its all SNSD's fault Im so sorry
Theo2010Dora 4 weeks ago
Because of a few people, the girls were hurt.
un4hetable 2 months ago in playlist 2008 SNSD worst case
Actually, it wasn't really sones' fault. It was some overly obsessed snsd fans fault that led to this. And , we can't really blame Tiffany saying that snsd are not sub groups like Suju oppas. She is brought up overseas that was why she seemed kinda 'rude'. And, it wasn't elfs fault that they were angry with fany too ... But this was the past, now Fany is learning to adapt to K culture <3 SONELF are the best !
ReginaSoshified98 2 months ago
THIS INCIDENT HAS NTG TO DO V SNSD..ALL THEY DID WAS PRACTICE HARD N TRYING TO GIVE EVERYBODY A GOOD SHOW
U KNOW WHO'S FAULT ISIT??
ITS ALL THOSE CRAZY KOREAN FANS WHO GONE NUTS OVER SEATS!!
I MEAN,WHY CUN THEY ALL JUS STFU N ENJOY D SHOW!!
JUS BECUZ OF THOSE FEW STUPID FOOLS WHO STARTED D PROBLEM N WENT TO RIP OTHER PPL'S BANNERS,D WHOLE SHOW WAS RUINED!
I LOVE SNSD,N THIS HAS NTG TO DO V THEM!!
SO THOSE PPL WHO R CRITICIZING THEM,BLAME THOSE DAM FANS FOR CAUSING D TROUBLE IN D 1ST PLACE!!
darkangel5550 2 months ago
that's why i hate sones , they love to bash others girl groups or boy groups . But thr always have sones who is good . I loved snsd but the way the sones go to other groups to argue just make me hate them . Did you heard before , THE WAY THE FANS ACT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE IDOL . So, sones , if you want other people to respect your idol pls respect the others idols also . I dont hate snsd but i just hate the way the fans act . -.-
peekaboooo123 2 months ago
you are such devil!!!!!!! you make this vid. just to make sone hate snsd..
fF0603 2 months ago
I agree with the latest comments.. is too much generalize, this was fault of stupid people who don't deserve call themselves fans of any group! that persons made ELF and other fandoms angry and turn their back to SNSD and that caused so much pain in our girls ;W; Is not SONEs or ELFs fault is just thats STUPID and violent haters who have no life -.-
TiffanySunKyuHwang9 2 months ago
I'm totally not a sone, but to generalize a whole fanclub is too much. Truth, I hate a lot of sones because of their behavior, but not all of them are small minded and crazy, there are always the normal ones, that support their idols, keep to themselves and avoid the fights. They are the ones that we should respect, because we know that they will respect our own idols.
thay0319 2 months ago 3
You dont have proof about that ~~ dont say bad thing about SONES OK !!!!!!
91SweetLULU 2 months ago
@ MiniminiStrategy1 sorry did i wrote all elfs? if i did then i'm sorry
of course i know not all elfs are like that but most of those anti snsd are elf or bj
trust me...it's true and i can't believe they still continue to hate snsd it's like snsd can never satisfy them bcuz they'll always find something that they can bach or complain about -.-
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kawaiigurl3 2 months ago
this is useless...snsd is in the top now!
yoo7006 2 months ago
LOL ok dont bash me for this but why is eveybody so sure it was a sone that tore the banner? (whos banner was it anyway) I am a sone too but physically hitting and tearing down other fandom's stuff is what cavemen will do, im disgusted with that guys actions -.- AND it was not sones fault it was only one sone so you guys should hunt him down instead of bashing SNSD and other sones. I found out about this recently so im just curious LOL
Peace :]
mrsexypoodle 2 months ago
hey anti-snsd fan here,why is some person saying that we hate snsd bcos they are plastic.i dont give a damm about them doing plastic surgery cos korea is yeah know.why r u judging all the antis?
blazlery 2 months ago
the fans are....WILD.....
breadpudding0815 2 months ago
Hi =D I really did hope ANTI-SNSD can understand this , SNSD DOESN'T HATE YOU , but those who hate you is some SONE that supporting SNSD in their wrong way ( being rude and insult other group ) yes I am SONE but I can understand you guys ANTI-SNSD feelings =( but think again , SNSD DIDN'T DO ANYTHING IN HURTING YOU GUYS =( Im not want to saying anything ut just hope that ANTI-SNSD can understand =) I did respect ANTI's activities but I really hopes WE ALL can stop insult each others =(
MrAlexphantom 2 months ago
Ugh sometimes i hate being a sone because of our reputation. I hate seeing soshis getting anti fans.
krazykiwigrape123 2 months ago
well, some of u said that there are bad sones. doesnt it mean that sone isnt 1? there is still bad and good sones? LOL then whats up with sones+snsd=1 when there are alr 2 groups of sones?
BloomfilTXM 2 months ago
Thx 4 creating this vid. I agree with you even though i love both groups. But i ever thought of oining SONEs. And the next thing i knew was i did not. Because of tiffany. She sort of insulted SUJU.
MiniminiStrategy1 2 months ago
Does are not sones does are stupid people that doesnt have a life
SilverDolar3point0 2 months ago
i'm new in k-pop life .. and i love all k-pop artist , but i'm very confused with this all ==
MsLovelyRara 2 months ago
IT'S ALL SONE'S FAULT!! AND SNSD IS THE FEMALE GROUP THAT HAS MORE ANTIS IN ALL THE WORLD!! ME I'M ONE OF THEM^^^
Misswonderjunior 2 months ago
@Misswonderjunior honey, i'm with you :3
Chefurrules 2 months ago
@Misswonderjunior @chefurrules I'm not anti :3 be happy and, let them be happy too :) don't insult them, what did they made you to hate them? this things of antis don't have any sense,is my opinion, ^^ but if someday you are very close to them haha i mean,1 meter, DON'T kill them haha or don't hurt them :) lol they are humans, other point is: if my oppa in the future have a girlfriend gonna be like: iaygyucv T.T but i'll be happy for him, and i'll say: we can be friends yet lol
MaknaeBaaabyfulx 2 months ago
that;s noy a knife actually. i've seen another picture about that picture and that man held a camera, not a knife. he was looking his pictures in the camera's screen that's why it was shining. a knife wouldn't shining like that.
yoshiejjang 2 months ago
I know many ELF must have had their heart broken by this incident but maybe, just maybe, it's time for both ELF n SONE to move on n benefit each other by making peace.
I mean, Black communities in South Africa forgave the white communities despite decades of Apartheid (racial segregation) n the blacks n whites harmonized. Compare to that, this is merely a petty fight. ELF n SONE r like cousins since SuJu n SNSD r from same company. We can harmonize like South Africans!
J2Y3S2TH 2 months ago
I wanna cry.... I can't believe fellow SONE's did such stuff! That's already gone way too far... *sniff*
AnimeloverSONE 2 months ago
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I admit some sones did wrong&rude. If you hate it, u should hate sones but not snsd. snsd didn't know anything about it, and they didn't do anything wrong. i'm a sone and i'll say SORRY although I didn't went to this dream concert . (and during year 2008 I'm still not a sone yet) please don't blame or hate SNSD. I will be very thankful ><'' at last, I wanna say SORRY to all fandoms if we sones did any wrong=( please forgive us. and of course, SNSD..TQverymuch!
cn2583 2 months ago
every fandom, have their rude member. but not all of them.
i'm ELF, and i never bash other group or fandom. and I LOVE SNSD.
ELF have their rude members. other fandoms too!!!! it's normal!!!
don't judge by yourself -.-
RaraAoi 3 months ago 43
@RaraAoi 95% anti snsd are elf @@ and in our SONE fan forum, you know what our rules is ? NEVER bashing other group, even suju.@@ but if you take a look at suju fan forum....most elf anti snsd, saying the wrongs things about snsd.
watru1234 1 month ago
@watru1234 You cannot deny there are elements that leads to this. Even though I am a Sone myself. Sometimes, things dies off when we just let go and not argue. What is the point of arguing? Your pride of being a fan? To defend the group you love? I believe the group you love will know how to defend themselves. It is not easy to let down your pride, but if that solve things, why not. It is because you respond to those that will case things to be worse.
everlysetay 1 month ago
@everlysetay IM never argue =.=" and you called your self a sone lol thats funny, if you're a sone you should support snsd. and to me, im never bashing other k-band, im just saying that we should end the fan war between sone and elf.
watru1234 1 month ago
@watru1234 I am sorry if i have offended you in any way. I am actually writing in general. I am not going to comment on anything else but i would like to know your definition of support :)
everlysetay 1 month ago
I don't know . I still hate them . Because of Sones and S9 . Keep Hating untill they say sorry to ALL K-pop's FC
murlovely 3 months ago
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@murlovely they didnt do anything wrong why would they say sorry... people with the mind like you ruin kpop
fatihahtesl9 3 months ago
@murlovely okay I admit some sones did wrong&rude. If you hate it, u should hate sones but not snsd. snsd didn't know anything about it, and they didn't do anything wrong. i'm a sone and i'll say SORRY although I didn't went to this dream concert . (and during year 2008 I'm still not a sone yet) please don't blame or hate SNSD. I will be very thankful ><'' at last, I wanna say SORRY to all fandoms if we sones did any wrong=( please forgive us. and of course, SNSD..TQverymuch!
cn2583 2 months ago
@cn2583 Aww ... if you said that ... I'll think about it . Sone is different . Some sone nice ( like you ) some rude like some one you know who :) But well , just wait , maybe i will stop hating S9 , maybe , just maybe :D
murlovely 2 months ago
Just because the SONE's there supposedly did this (I still doubt most of it is true) doesn't mean you have to hate on the girls and every SONE out there, not all of us are like that. There are crazy people everywhere and every single fandom has crazy people in them. So stop with the bias shit because its getting old when you blame a whole bunch of people who did nothing.
VinceAndHisKpop 3 months ago
no. its not an elf's fault or sone's fault. let we think. its because stupid people. elf and sone are name of fandom. people who like suju is an elf people who like snsd is a sone. outside that fact, if there is something wrong its a person fault. just not bring your fandom' name! elf said 'sone is denial" sone said that too to an elf. thats not true at all. the denial one is A PERSON WHO STUPID WHO PROUD OF BEING HATER!
MsYuriforever 3 months ago 47
If Antis' reason is really because of Sones then there should be no anti SNSD. How about changing it to Anti-SONE its better if we are the ones having haters....
supergeneration100 3 months ago
i'm not a sone but i like snsd. i like sones fangirls not the fanboys.
addictedingreen27 3 months ago
N also, I'm sorry for criticizing ur mentality n what not. I know this unfortunate incident was personal to u n u have all the rights to criticize who u believe is guilty. I just hope one day, u'll forgive n forget 'some' SONE who committed this atrocity n learn to not generalize all SONE as bad people. I'm just a dude who's tired of seeing ELF n SONE fight like mad dogs.
J2Y3S2TH 3 months ago
@J2Y3S2TH 2nd comment: I am sorry, too, if I took things too far. I don't think think all SONEs are bad, and I, too, am tired of ELF/SONE quarrels. I'm happy I met a good SONE, I guess.
BilIisHotAsHell 3 months ago
@BilIisHotAsHell
Well, pretty much every country has racist people... In Korea, there is still quite a few who don't really like Chinese n Japanese... Still, it will be nice to visit Eastern Europe one day because I heard it's quite different than Western Europe (partially because of former Soviet Union).
thanks, although I'm not really a nice SONE. If I was, I wouldn't have fought with u. Sorry about that. I thought u were just SONE hater but u said u have SONE friends. Nice to meet u. ^^
J2Y3S2TH 3 months ago
@J2Y3S2TH Well, I hope you visit then, since you want to. It's cool that you know so much, didn't expect that, since you lice so far away. Well, yeah, you fought, but I fought back, so I'm not exactly a nice ELF, either. I'm not a SONE hater, I'm a bad-SONE hater, I guess. xD Nice to meet you too. ^^
BilIisHotAsHell 3 months ago
Dear ELF n SONE, we must accept each other's mistakes in the past (hate speech on internet, act of violence in concerts, n ganging up on one another), forgive each other, n move on. Many SONE n ELF managed to do that despite continued conflict in 09 n 10 concert. It is time for the remaining others to do the same. Peace is beneficial to both Suju n SNSD. What say, u? No more endless blame game! PEACE!
J2Y3S2TH 3 months ago
Okay... wow... What a troll...
Guess this is what I get when I try to be a moderate (meaning supporting/criticizing both ELF n SONE). It's okay, my Serbian friend. Hope u have a good life in ur Balkan state. Visit Korea one day n find our more about K-ELF n K-SONE n how extreme some of them can be.
J2Y3S2TH 3 months ago
@J2Y3S2TH Do you have a problem with my nationality?
BilIisHotAsHell 3 months ago
@BilIisHotAsHell
No, But I know many nations in Eastern Europe (actually, practically all Western world) is suffering from deficit including Canada where I'm living in so I said wish best of luck to Serbia. Serbians r generally nationalistic people just like Koreans n I like u guys. I have no bad feeling towards your nation in any way. In fact, I hope to visit there one day along with other nations in Balkan peninsula.
J2Y3S2TH 3 months ago
@J2Y3S2TH Well, I don't know you just mentioned my nationality too many times in one comment, so it seemed like you were making fun of my nationality. I suggest you stay away from Balkans, since young people here aren't really found of Asians... I hate to be among such people, so I thought you were making prejudices about me too. I'm sorry.
BilIisHotAsHell 3 months ago
Gosh..please inter nation fans don't join this fandoms war..
let the Korean fandoms fight..
we're out of this.. Don't join them too..
If the Korean sones wants riot. let them be.
Us inter nation Let's be peaceful. we shouldn't copy them..
It's korean's problem not ours..
jheshom 3 months ago
Everything is true but it sort of seems like your blaming all sones. I'm pretty sure some of them have the respect and common sense not to fuck with cassies and elfs I'm pretty neutral on it I think all the groups should just show respect and go on their merry little ways enjoying the music.
OPockyxLuvO 3 months ago
soooo, you're saying that you're an anti? lol
NeoragoPineapple 3 months ago
of course it's the other fans' fault.
why bother starting a black ocean?
pathetic much? LOL.
BeBeAyumiReturns 3 months ago
@BeBeAyumiReturns Wanna know why? Because SONEs ripped ELF's poster of Super Junior while SuJu were preforming on stage, right in front of them! You better shut your mouth and learn your place, pathetic SONE.
BilIisHotAsHell 3 months ago