Bad Seventh Circuit Oral Argument

[constitution2me]

I've heard pro se inmates with no experience make more persuasive arguments in district courts.

[schedulefreak]

Counsel: "Based on the dog."

Judge: "Based on the Supreme Court!"

Priceless.

[mackler]

Who won?

[jspeyton]

i'd think this was funny if it was't so sad. This guy did a woeful job for his client.

[Cheekwaa]

I wonder if the opposing counsel could sue this guy for the rotator cuff surgery they had to get from all the high-fiving they did during his argument

[annabel7476]

LOL! I feel a lot better about my 1L moot court arguments now :)

[denovo09]

Counsel's a moron. What a fool. He should be disbarred. He should have been canned behind the courthouse for his disrespect to the Court.

[Arvidiusdux]

You think that you would take the time to have a hunting accident staged before going through with something like this.

[Vergon3256]

Stupid

[daveminsucook]

I believe that's a picture of the Earl Warren courthouse in San Francisco, where the 9th Circuit sits. The 7th Circuit conducts oral arguments in the Dirksen Federal Building in Chicago, Illinois.

[afterapplepicking]

"I assume you don't want us to overrule the Supreme Court."

"No, I don't."

"Well, that's good."

You never want to hear the judge say that to opposing counsel. It's a bad sign for your chances at winning. lol.

[XxSsinUrnxX]

Our App Ad prof had us listen to this... thank you so much for posting it on youtube so I could "keep" a copy :)

[jpsartrean]

I looked it up on West too and found some other interesting stuff through google -he's a graduate of Cincy law school and was a member of Scacchetti & Scacchetti (with wife Marcia) who apparently left the firm to become the general manager of a country club. According to the following link, he resorted to cocaine use due to "painful open sores over his entire body." I kid you not - rough stuff....  supremecourt.ohio.gov/rod/docs­/pdf/0/2007/2007-Ohio-2713.pdf -

[tangram108]

The rebuttal would have sounded like this:

Lawyer: "You should overrule the Supreme Court."

Judge: "We can't reverse the Supreme Court."

Lawyer: "No, you can....you can....the only thing I'll tell you is that you have to find a reason to."

*Silence*

Lawyer: "I'm just so frustrated."

[checktheavailability]

"...i know, i know. i have nothing else to say. good luck."

[wilverbal]

Besides Chief Judge Easterbrook, who are the Judges on this panel? I didn't recognize the other two Judges' voices .

[armenaut]

Bauer and Sykes.

[wilverbal]

Thank you. That was fast.

[hideoussausage]

after lolling for a while at this, i went onto west and looked up the opinion (2 paragraphs) for this case so i could find this attorneys name

david scacchetti

then i googled him and found out that his law license was suspended because he had been a cokehead for months leading up to this argument

[denovo09]

That "guy" is well-known Judge Easterbrook. Show some effing respect!

[PeterOfTheCosmos]

I believe "RentMyCar" is referring to the counsel: David Scacchetti; not to Judge Easterbrook. He DOES sound like Jeremy Piven, only less eloquent.

[RentMyCar]

This guy sounds like the actor: Jeremy Piven

[GodOfPlague]

@RentMyCar Or like Sweets from Bones.

[macco360]

I got very nervous there for a moment that the AUSA was going to speak! It was obvious the judges wanted to move on with their docket.

[ArmArmy88]

This is SO funny!!! This guy is an idiot.

[SecretStasher]

hahaha! try telling the judge, "you distinguish it." These judges were actually calm considering counsel.

This guy much have gone out and gotten shit faced after this.

[branciforte3241]

If I ever found myself in the position where I was trying to get a case to the supreme court so that I could argue for them to ignore my client's 500 grams of cocaine because he had a privacy right not to have dogs sniff the outside of his car, then I'd probably wind up drinking a lot also.

[NicoleJade88]

@SecretStasher I think he went out and got shit faced BEFORE this.

[branciforte3241]

The case was United States v. Johnson, 123 Fed. Appx. 240 (7th Cir. Ind. 2005). The court could not distinguish the case from Illinois v. Caballes (holding that dogs sniffing the outside of a car was not an invasion of privacy). SCOTUS denied a writ of certiorari on Oct. 5, 2005.

D was found with 500 grams of cocaine in his car.

[woodrebel]

thanks for the cite.

[etsneroj]

Good thing he reserved time for rebuttle. This is priceless.

[liceytiger]

LOL holy shit

[cbreitel]

"Counsel. COUNSEL! Your seat is at counsel's table!"

LOL!

[DaR4Buff]

"I assume you don't want us to overrule the Supreme Court?"

[dboy4ever]

Not that anyone might care, as indicated below it's a 7th Circuit case. You can find the original recording on the court's website -- case number 04-2732

[RoughAndReady]

I feel cheated; I want to hear the rebuttal.

"My words are probably not being heard by very many people." ROFL.

Judge: "Anyway to distinguish it?"

Lawdude: "I hope you can find one." WOW.

[tangram108]

@RoughAndReady Damn it! I wanted the rebuttal too. I think I'll sue the 7th Circuit for short-changing me. I'll David Sacchetti represent me. He'll stick it to these judges.

[armenaut]

I apologize, the case is a 7th Circuit case, USA v. Robert Lee Johnson (04-2732). You may use the case number to search for the MP3 of the oral arguments ont he 7th Circuit's website.

[xjustsomedudeX]

Ouch.

[DaR4Buff]

Where did you find this/has the case been decided? Thanks for sharing.