Meanwhile, more pertinently, there's a major fault line running from about Memphis, Tennessee up through Michigan. We had a tremor on it over ten years ago. It was said, then, that we can expect a "major" earthquake from that line in the mext 30-130 years, if I properly recall.
@gabrielapetrie i think much sooner than that for sure with canada all around us rumbling this year alone. we used to have our very own volcano right down the road from me but so called extinct.
@FixedByDoc there is no such thing a extinct on T Rex is extinct everything else is alive and ready to blow at anytime much prepare we have less then 4 years left
The coal mine fires... in West Virginia? You think they burned all the way to the upper peninsula of Michigan? And finally sort of decided to surface there?
@FixedByDoc If there was a coal mine fire, The ground would collapse, yet give te heat. can you get anyone in there to take a sample. If it smells of sulfur, Get the heck out of there
@The5150Clown no one is allowed on the property anymore. but last time i was there i didnt smell anything but that doesnt mean there wasnt something. carneyart has more info on his channel.
I am not suprised, the whole world is shaking, and the ancient volcanoes and plumes are becoming more active....I was looking at Turkey, at lake van, if you zoom into the area, and look at it w/ satalite or hybrid, so you can see the topography of that land, that whole area IS a super volcano, w/ that area hidding the worlds largest magma collection! That thing is bigger than Yellowstone! THX to DrGoodgreen's, he found the sat. images.
@skywriter1962 cool. its been erupting with earthquakes quite a bit over there lately. it wont be to much longer before we get a good 11.0 or close to it im sure.
@fixedbydoc starnge how carneyart can no longer see the crack as the field in front is littered with no trespassing signs....hope its because the homeowners got tired of numerous people stopping n not the fact that they were told to not allow people to observe it.
@endub42 yeah i know. it sucks. one big reason why i havnt been back. im going to sneak out thre after the snow falls to get a temperature reading from inside and get some other info. but will have to wait a bit longer. hopefully i dont get arrested.
@fuzzypaws17 please visit carneyart channel for current updates hes seen new cracks form in area but this 1 seems to have gone dormant. he can give more info as its down the road from him just a few miles.
@truemirror as soon as snow hits i will try to get out there again. wasnt much to see in summer other than a crack in the ground. more have popped up though in the area around there.
@FixedByDoc Do those new cracks run parallel to the first? is there some sort of pattern? Is it circle? have you mapped it? lol, I'd like to see a area map of the cracks.
@truemirror please visit my friend carneyart channel. he lives down the road from the cracks. he also has document them thuroughly. he can tell you more than me b/c i live 2 1/2 hrs away. im sure he would be more help. and has a whole series of videos on them.
Hey are you guys sure that they are not mining about 600 ft below? This looks like the results of shallow mining, I really miss MI, but man if that is going to be a volcano.. I'm glad I'm not there!
@paganbeergod could be. there is a second crack found up here not to long ago. see carneyart for the vid. the elf is probly why im having headaches all the time.
If there's heat coming out of the crack as well a new hill formed, it is possibly and very likely due to magma displacement and a new volcano may be forming in your backyard. I would be very weary and watchful. Be prepared to get out of dodge at a moments notice. There used to be magma flows long ago in the upper penninsula of Michigan.
@artangel1980 newer cracks have formed recently as well. also we have what is deemed a dead volcano 30 minutes from my house. perhaps you are correct.
@faro0485 well back then some areas were more than 10ft. other areas couldnt tell. probly from decompsing plant matter as one of the other commentors mentioned. makes sense to me. what do you think. its all speculations until the scientist come and offer real scientific explanation but of course that wont happen.
@faro0485 i can crawl into a crack and stand straight up without head coming out of top. im 6'2". but that doesnt mean the ground isnt disturbed deeper. it would be nice to get an ultrasound or something.
Is the heat from all the decomposing stuff that's been insulated from the snow suddenly being revealed? I know that it isn't very hard to get warmer than 20, but I don't really know how hot decomposing stuff is.
@Vaxliscious i didnt think about the heat being from decompsing stuff. good thought. well it was a mild heat and its way to warm now to tell if any is coming from the crack still. but planning a trip back in the fall to see whats up with it after summer.
Heres one for you watch jesse ventura water conspiracy of the great lakes. If you quickly remove a large amount of pressure off the lakes floor could it not cause a expansion of the floor of the earth or watch jesse venturas haarp conspiracies. I dont think water weight is doing it but lookin at youtube at all the cracks n stuff all over the earth right now how about this...
@MrSokitumi0007 i agree with the pressure loss idea and they are pumping lots of water and oil out of that lake. combined with a massive oil leak they had around the same time. i do think it was due to the pressure change for sure. ive seen a lot of jesse ventura's stuff but i dont own a tv so cant see it often unless comes on here.
@FixedByDoc maybe govt isnt investigating because they already know what it is....yrs ago when i first started using internet saw a map real or fake i dont know but supposedly was from when govt first studying new madrid fault showing future geograpic changes much of michigan was underwater n right near where the crack is today there was a volcano.....now for the life of me cant find that map mayb it was all a dream
@endub42 yep there is a volcano near my house an old one but real. the map is accurate as far as can be through scientific evaluation. you could be right on. i think it is facinating.
curious why no one either independent or gov funded isnt monitoring this more closely gives the impression while it is a fascinating phenomenom it isnt worthy of further investigation....i mean if u were that alarmed by it wouldnt u be visiting it and watching it more regularly?
@endub42 i for one am in school and live 4hours away almost. but if i lived closer i would be there alot. i dont know why the gov isnt monitoring it or anyone else besides carneyart and i and some locals. it may not be something to be to worried about at the moment but in the over all picture i would like to know where this piece fits in. thanks for commenting.
@smurfboywv this happened in the middle of summer. the neighbors felt a large rummble and a loud snap then after investigating they found the crack. usgs came out and surveyed it. it had one clip in the news and was over the next day. the town is still trying to get the gov to investigate further or tell them something at least...
@FixedByDoc Has it gotten worse? If it hasn't then I wouldn't worry about it. Earthquakes happen every day, most of them aren't felt. I am curious about the heat you said you felt.
Found out some really interesting info. Did you know there should have been an ocean in this area? But the rift failed (continental breakup). The Midcontinent Rift System. And it could in theory join up with the New Madrid fault. I have an odd, US gov satellite map (authentic?) that shows the splitting of the US with ocean along the New Madrid fault and the failed rift. Clear up through Michigan. With a small volcano in the upper Michigan pennisula. What the projections are for, I dunno.
@candes yep. in fact the projection are for better understanding the large scale effects/affects of the newmadrid fault line eruption. so they can better prepare for disaster prep. if the fault erupts fully and global warming continues the great lakes will form an ocean & could happen in our lifetime sincee the fault line has be come very active now. cali would take a 10.5 quake but newmadrid only needs a few 8's to happen.
@candes dont forget the newmadrid follows the mississippi river & everything along it is built on mississippi mud. this means it only needs a small quake to cause liquid facia and sink everything like what happened twice in oregon. and in the last 100yrs or so it happened twice on the newmadrid.
Just a few missing facts. The pioneer well also involved 5 million gallons of water. And the joyfield well leaked before it was even fully operational. It happened that quickly. Had to be quite large to shut them down. Hmm..
Did you notice their choice of area for the pioneer exploratory well? Looks like their experiment would have less of an impact if something did go wrong.
Anyways, I have a bad feeling about deep fracking. That Indonesian well was a deep exploratory well also.
@candes ive always been against it right from the start. seen a lot of vids where gas leaked out and got into the water supply. ppl were able to turn on their faucets and smell gas and light it up to. not good at all.
@FixedByDoc Yes I live in PA (marcellus shale), so I am quite familiar with the "fire water" topic. My in laws had some property with a "normal" natural gas well on it from long ago. They got like $9 a year. Tsk Tsk....
My local borough has created ordinances for this before they even hit our area. Yeah!!! We lve in a home rule community. At least the government works in some areas. :)
Did you see this video on the Indonesia? Best one yet. "Muddy Hell - Indonesia"
@FixedByDoc Anyways, let me know if you go back. It would also be interesting to see the present state of the sink holes in lake Huron these days. Something tells me there have been recent changes. Wonder if this was a bad area for any typo of drilling from the get-go.
And I am glad to see that deep fracking has stopped practically over night in Michigan.
@FixedByDoc Yes, I thought about the oil. Maybe even a combo of the 2? Who knows right yet. But I feel whatever the case, some newer clues will develop soon. I learned of this joyfield leak, AFTER my earlier realization of the possible association with the pioneer well. Just found that today. Something inside me says gee, maybe the first well weakend things a bit. Perhaps this is why the second well leaked? BTW, the second well leaked before it was even fundtional. Hmmm....
I say keep an eye on possible gas leaks in this area....
Now, a gas fracking leak has been reported in Michigan. Bloomberg reports on the oil leak in Joyfield Township, outside of Traverse City in Michigan's northern lower peninsula. Although DNRE spokesperson Brad Wurfel said the leak was "limited to a small area and posed no imminent danger," the gas leak will likely lead to a review of hydrofracking and drilling practices.
@candes i agree that it is highly possible that what you said is what caused the crack. i only knew about the oil dilling in lake michigan and thought it might be linked to the oil spill we had here not to long before the crack appeared. either one could be the cause. thanks for your detailed / educated responses.
Headline... Drilling of exploratpry well caused Indonesian mud volcano (See Reuters). For some reason I can't post links. But my argument is if it can cause a mud volcano elsewhere, what can it do here? Every geographic area is unique in its own way. Pioneer was an exploratory well straight across from where the crack developed. It could have weakned something.
Example... A well, in Missaukee, which is named Pioneer, was drilled by Denver-based Petoskey Exploration, a subsidiary of the Calgary-based Encana corporation, and unlike the natural gas wells tapped into the Antrim shale formation (between 600-2,2000 feet deep) across northern Michigan in the 1980s, Pioneer went down 9,685 feet and then drilled horizontally into the Collingswood shale formation for 5,000 feet
The massive hydraulic fracturing and horizontal drilling now being used in Michigan to reach and extract the deep shale gas reserves is significantly different. Instead of the old approach—drilling to depths of 1,000 to 2,500 feet and using relatively small volumes of water to fracture an area close to the well bore—deep shale uses horizontal drilling to a larger area, at depths of up to 10,000 feet.
DAMN IT!!! My most favorite place to be is in da u.p.!!! Hope you all stay safe and nothing too serious will happen up there or below the bridge (thats where im from and all of my family is still there). But if the maps are right, there will be big changes coming to michigan!
@classicscrap1 it goes along lake michigan. non-man made. but if it connects with the lake in the future it will become a new river or creek for sure...
I'm glad you & Stace did another video/report on this crack.Back in mid summer when this occurred the land owners said they heard a loud noise & when the news reported it they said the USGS was on their way to investigate.Not sure if the USGS or any Universities have investigated it or are even concerned.Today I checked out some video cameras (infrared) but right now I can't afford 1 plus my car broke so I'm in a bind but would love to help with this & much more.
@SSArt98 well i have to fix my wifes jeep first but then a new camera is on the venue. i have no idea if usgs ever came out there but i doubt it. will keep going back as much as i can and with the gear i can.
Did you try to put a lighter near the crack? Have you taken the temp near the crack or insert a temp gauge into hole? ; ) The tree trunks also seem to be giving off more heat also? Thanks for the update, sent via (Stace) CarneyArt
And I would LOVE to hear your opinion on it also. Thanks guys.
@happygalmarried i plan on going back next month on the 4th time permitting after my appointment in iron mtn. it is then i plan to bring my gps, thermometer, altimeter, and what ever i can get from the geology club at my university. hopefully we can get a better idea of what is going on.
@happygalmarried oh ya i used to gather methane from the swamp as a kid to make mini bombs and such. perhaps i can capture some of the air the same way to take away and light it to see if it is flamable. cause if it is i dont want to blow it up standing there with a match lol.
@happygalmarried well wife has standing orders to get out camera first set up on stand then grab the first aid kit when ever im seriously hurt or about to be...
@Knockreaghimages that could be due to the heat from the ground, but keep in mind we did have a lot of snow melt all over during the last major CME last week.
@TUNIQlifestyle this is o steam pipe. the local gov ppl and such have been out to look over the summer and nothing has been done on there end. also this area was flat and has risen and widend over time. i have some theorys but just theorys no answers.
Neat you are working together on this! When I heard Stace mention heat, 1st thing I thought of was Yellowstone - but you said no stink. Next I thought maybe a hot springs was being formed - so I searched for Michigan hot springs, thinking there might be a way to connect the current crack with them. But none are documented, at least at quick glance. However a zoomed in overhead satellite photo (google maps) of topography shows what looks like this 'cracking' could've happened before, too.
@trailkeeper perhaps. next time when i have more time i will bring along a digital thermometer and my gps and some other tools for monitering and see what i can come up with. also be great to get a log of temps to see if getting hotter, colder, or stays the same.
@trailkeeper they have done that before in many other parts of the world. just look at the african contenant the same is happening there too, but in a huge scale.
@trailkeeper The earth is always warm - that's why you can warm up houses using ground heat, it's a common thing. Magma you will find 40 kilometers down or so :-)
@mikisenx any explanation at this point is just theory unless of course its made by someone who works in the feild and has run tests on this area. who knows maybe carneyart's and I's videos will get noticed and bring in some specialist... lets hope...
fracking..
orison319 2 weeks ago
@orison319 very possile.
FixedByDoc 2 weeks ago
Meanwhile, more pertinently, there's a major fault line running from about Memphis, Tennessee up through Michigan. We had a tremor on it over ten years ago. It was said, then, that we can expect a "major" earthquake from that line in the mext 30-130 years, if I properly recall.
gabrielapetrie 3 months ago
@gabrielapetrie i think much sooner than that for sure with canada all around us rumbling this year alone. we used to have our very own volcano right down the road from me but so called extinct.
FixedByDoc 3 months ago
@FixedByDoc there is no such thing a extinct on T Rex is extinct everything else is alive and ready to blow at anytime much prepare we have less then 4 years left
JamesJablonski2008 1 month ago
The coal mine fires... in West Virginia? You think they burned all the way to the upper peninsula of Michigan? And finally sort of decided to surface there?
gabrielapetrie 3 months ago
@gabrielapetrie well if so they (gov) are not telling us.
FixedByDoc 3 months ago
could it be all the coal mine fires doing this?
1Littleagger 3 months ago
@1Littleagger i didnt know there was a coal fire going on. would explain the warmth though.
FixedByDoc 3 months ago
@FixedByDoc If there was a coal mine fire, The ground would collapse, yet give te heat. can you get anyone in there to take a sample. If it smells of sulfur, Get the heck out of there
The5150Clown 2 months ago
@The5150Clown no one is allowed on the property anymore. but last time i was there i didnt smell anything but that doesnt mean there wasnt something. carneyart has more info on his channel.
FixedByDoc 2 months ago
I am not suprised, the whole world is shaking, and the ancient volcanoes and plumes are becoming more active....I was looking at Turkey, at lake van, if you zoom into the area, and look at it w/ satalite or hybrid, so you can see the topography of that land, that whole area IS a super volcano, w/ that area hidding the worlds largest magma collection! That thing is bigger than Yellowstone! THX to DrGoodgreen's, he found the sat. images.
skywriter1962 4 months ago
@skywriter1962 cool. its been erupting with earthquakes quite a bit over there lately. it wont be to much longer before we get a good 11.0 or close to it im sure.
FixedByDoc 4 months ago
@fixedbydoc starnge how carneyart can no longer see the crack as the field in front is littered with no trespassing signs....hope its because the homeowners got tired of numerous people stopping n not the fact that they were told to not allow people to observe it.
endub42 4 months ago
@endub42 yeah i know. it sucks. one big reason why i havnt been back. im going to sneak out thre after the snow falls to get a temperature reading from inside and get some other info. but will have to wait a bit longer. hopefully i dont get arrested.
FixedByDoc 4 months ago
so what is it doing now over the summer? bring us up to date...
fuzzypaws17 5 months ago
@fuzzypaws17 please visit carneyart channel for current updates hes seen new cracks form in area but this 1 seems to have gone dormant. he can give more info as its down the road from him just a few miles.
FixedByDoc 5 months ago
P.S. try to put a Thermometer into those holes during cold weather and if it is above 55 than you have a heat source.
truemirror 5 months ago
@truemirror as soon as snow hits i will try to get out there again. wasnt much to see in summer other than a crack in the ground. more have popped up though in the area around there.
FixedByDoc 5 months ago
@FixedByDoc Do those new cracks run parallel to the first? is there some sort of pattern? Is it circle? have you mapped it? lol, I'd like to see a area map of the cracks.
truemirror 5 months ago
@truemirror please visit my friend carneyart channel. he lives down the road from the cracks. he also has document them thuroughly. he can tell you more than me b/c i live 2 1/2 hrs away. im sure he would be more help. and has a whole series of videos on them.
FixedByDoc 5 months ago
Hey are you guys sure that they are not mining about 600 ft below? This looks like the results of shallow mining, I really miss MI, but man if that is going to be a volcano.. I'm glad I'm not there!
truemirror 5 months ago
Makes me wonder if that is uplift or gound buckling.
glassmammoth1 5 months ago
@glassmammoth1 i think uplift
FixedByDoc 5 months ago
I bet Haarp has something to do with this. The ELF systems in the UP are being transcended to the HAARP technology.
paganbeergod 5 months ago
@paganbeergod could be. there is a second crack found up here not to long ago. see carneyart for the vid. the elf is probly why im having headaches all the time.
FixedByDoc 5 months ago
If there's heat coming out of the crack as well a new hill formed, it is possibly and very likely due to magma displacement and a new volcano may be forming in your backyard. I would be very weary and watchful. Be prepared to get out of dodge at a moments notice. There used to be magma flows long ago in the upper penninsula of Michigan.
artangel1980 7 months ago
@artangel1980 newer cracks have formed recently as well. also we have what is deemed a dead volcano 30 minutes from my house. perhaps you are correct.
FixedByDoc 7 months ago
I just stumbled across these videos, What has happened sense these were filmed? Has it gotten bigger, filled in or anything new?
calmingbrook 8 months ago
@calmingbrook nothing new with this one however there is a new crack nearby... check carnyart's channel he posted a recent vid of it.
FixedByDoc 8 months ago
@laurenfan4 and cleveland.
FixedByDoc 8 months ago
Heat? How deep is the crack?
faro0485 8 months ago
@faro0485 well back then some areas were more than 10ft. other areas couldnt tell. probly from decompsing plant matter as one of the other commentors mentioned. makes sense to me. what do you think. its all speculations until the scientist come and offer real scientific explanation but of course that wont happen.
FixedByDoc 8 months ago
@FixedByDoc Yeah well, until someone measures how deep the ground has been disturbed.
faro0485 8 months ago
@faro0485 i can crawl into a crack and stand straight up without head coming out of top. im 6'2". but that doesnt mean the ground isnt disturbed deeper. it would be nice to get an ultrasound or something.
FixedByDoc 8 months ago
@FixedByDoc...Did you know that an even bigger crack in the earth happened in northern Germany recently?
Beowulfsonur 8 months ago
@Beowulfsonur no i didnt hear about it as far as i can remember.
FixedByDoc 8 months ago
Is the heat from all the decomposing stuff that's been insulated from the snow suddenly being revealed? I know that it isn't very hard to get warmer than 20, but I don't really know how hot decomposing stuff is.
Vaxliscious 8 months ago
@Vaxliscious i didnt think about the heat being from decompsing stuff. good thought. well it was a mild heat and its way to warm now to tell if any is coming from the crack still. but planning a trip back in the fall to see whats up with it after summer.
FixedByDoc 8 months ago
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MrSokitumi0007 9 months ago
Heres one for you watch jesse ventura water conspiracy of the great lakes. If you quickly remove a large amount of pressure off the lakes floor could it not cause a expansion of the floor of the earth or watch jesse venturas haarp conspiracies. I dont think water weight is doing it but lookin at youtube at all the cracks n stuff all over the earth right now how about this...
MrSokitumi0007 9 months ago
@MrSokitumi0007 i agree with the pressure loss idea and they are pumping lots of water and oil out of that lake. combined with a massive oil leak they had around the same time. i do think it was due to the pressure change for sure. ive seen a lot of jesse ventura's stuff but i dont own a tv so cant see it often unless comes on here.
FixedByDoc 9 months ago
The map was from the great edgar cayce.
bobinh2otown 11 months ago
@bobinh2otown thanks...
FixedByDoc 11 months ago
@FixedByDoc maybe govt isnt investigating because they already know what it is....yrs ago when i first started using internet saw a map real or fake i dont know but supposedly was from when govt first studying new madrid fault showing future geograpic changes much of michigan was underwater n right near where the crack is today there was a volcano.....now for the life of me cant find that map mayb it was all a dream
endub42 1 year ago
@endub42 yep there is a volcano near my house an old one but real. the map is accurate as far as can be through scientific evaluation. you could be right on. i think it is facinating.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
curious why no one either independent or gov funded isnt monitoring this more closely gives the impression while it is a fascinating phenomenom it isnt worthy of further investigation....i mean if u were that alarmed by it wouldnt u be visiting it and watching it more regularly?
endub42 1 year ago
@endub42 i for one am in school and live 4hours away almost. but if i lived closer i would be there alot. i dont know why the gov isnt monitoring it or anyone else besides carneyart and i and some locals. it may not be something to be to worried about at the moment but in the over all picture i would like to know where this piece fits in. thanks for commenting.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
Looks like the soil just froze and the soil shrunk, I haven't heard anything online or tv about this.
smurfboywv 1 year ago
@smurfboywv this happened in the middle of summer. the neighbors felt a large rummble and a loud snap then after investigating they found the crack. usgs came out and surveyed it. it had one clip in the news and was over the next day. the town is still trying to get the gov to investigate further or tell them something at least...
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
@FixedByDoc Has it gotten worse? If it hasn't then I wouldn't worry about it. Earthquakes happen every day, most of them aren't felt. I am curious about the heat you said you felt.
smurfboywv 1 year ago
Found out some really interesting info. Did you know there should have been an ocean in this area? But the rift failed (continental breakup). The Midcontinent Rift System. And it could in theory join up with the New Madrid fault. I have an odd, US gov satellite map (authentic?) that shows the splitting of the US with ocean along the New Madrid fault and the failed rift. Clear up through Michigan. With a small volcano in the upper Michigan pennisula. What the projections are for, I dunno.
candes 1 year ago
@candes yep. in fact the projection are for better understanding the large scale effects/affects of the newmadrid fault line eruption. so they can better prepare for disaster prep. if the fault erupts fully and global warming continues the great lakes will form an ocean & could happen in our lifetime sincee the fault line has be come very active now. cali would take a 10.5 quake but newmadrid only needs a few 8's to happen.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
@candes dont forget the newmadrid follows the mississippi river & everything along it is built on mississippi mud. this means it only needs a small quake to cause liquid facia and sink everything like what happened twice in oregon. and in the last 100yrs or so it happened twice on the newmadrid.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
@candes Sorry, Youtube is stalling when I post. And I didn't realize that I posted this 3 times. LOL...
candes 1 year ago
@candes lol its fine im having to refresh every time just to post multiple comments. i wish youtube would stop fracking with the system.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
Just a few missing facts. The pioneer well also involved 5 million gallons of water. And the joyfield well leaked before it was even fully operational. It happened that quickly. Had to be quite large to shut them down. Hmm..
Did you notice their choice of area for the pioneer exploratory well? Looks like their experiment would have less of an impact if something did go wrong.
Anyways, I have a bad feeling about deep fracking. That Indonesian well was a deep exploratory well also.
candes 1 year ago
@candes ive always been against it right from the start. seen a lot of vids where gas leaked out and got into the water supply. ppl were able to turn on their faucets and smell gas and light it up to. not good at all.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
@FixedByDoc Yes I live in PA (marcellus shale), so I am quite familiar with the "fire water" topic. My in laws had some property with a "normal" natural gas well on it from long ago. They got like $9 a year. Tsk Tsk....
My local borough has created ordinances for this before they even hit our area. Yeah!!! We lve in a home rule community. At least the government works in some areas. :)
Did you see this video on the Indonesia? Best one yet. "Muddy Hell - Indonesia"
candes 1 year ago
@candes yeah the mud slide and huge hole in the middle of town. the whole place is unsafe now as far as im concerned.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
@FixedByDoc Anyways, let me know if you go back. It would also be interesting to see the present state of the sink holes in lake Huron these days. Something tells me there have been recent changes. Wonder if this was a bad area for any typo of drilling from the get-go.
And I am glad to see that deep fracking has stopped practically over night in Michigan.
candes 1 year ago
@candes will do. i will most likely post a vid saying im going like a day or so ahead of going then another when i get back of the site.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
@FixedByDoc Yes, I thought about the oil. Maybe even a combo of the 2? Who knows right yet. But I feel whatever the case, some newer clues will develop soon. I learned of this joyfield leak, AFTER my earlier realization of the possible association with the pioneer well. Just found that today. Something inside me says gee, maybe the first well weakend things a bit. Perhaps this is why the second well leaked? BTW, the second well leaked before it was even fundtional. Hmmm....
candes 1 year ago
I say keep an eye on possible gas leaks in this area....
Now, a gas fracking leak has been reported in Michigan. Bloomberg reports on the oil leak in Joyfield Township, outside of Traverse City in Michigan's northern lower peninsula. Although DNRE spokesperson Brad Wurfel said the leak was "limited to a small area and posed no imminent danger," the gas leak will likely lead to a review of hydrofracking and drilling practices.
candes 1 year ago
@candes i agree that it is highly possible that what you said is what caused the crack. i only knew about the oil dilling in lake michigan and thought it might be linked to the oil spill we had here not to long before the crack appeared. either one could be the cause. thanks for your detailed / educated responses.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
Headline... Drilling of exploratpry well caused Indonesian mud volcano (See Reuters). For some reason I can't post links. But my argument is if it can cause a mud volcano elsewhere, what can it do here? Every geographic area is unique in its own way. Pioneer was an exploratory well straight across from where the crack developed. It could have weakned something.
candes 1 year ago
@candes i saw that video...
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
Example... A well, in Missaukee, which is named Pioneer, was drilled by Denver-based Petoskey Exploration, a subsidiary of the Calgary-based Encana corporation, and unlike the natural gas wells tapped into the Antrim shale formation (between 600-2,2000 feet deep) across northern Michigan in the 1980s, Pioneer went down 9,685 feet and then drilled horizontally into the Collingswood shale formation for 5,000 feet
candes 1 year ago
The massive hydraulic fracturing and horizontal drilling now being used in Michigan to reach and extract the deep shale gas reserves is significantly different. Instead of the old approach—drilling to depths of 1,000 to 2,500 feet and using relatively small volumes of water to fracture an area close to the well bore—deep shale uses horizontal drilling to a larger area, at depths of up to 10,000 feet.
candes 1 year ago
Thanks for the up date I've been looking all over for one !
blrkeith 1 year ago
@blrkeith you are welcome. im trying to get back out there soon i hope.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
The USGS is warning us that a mega earthquake is about to hit the Northern Hemisphere: Check out their warnings on You Tube, and their site.
Galburst 1 year ago
@Galburst yeah ive been looking into it. thanks for the comment.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
DAMN IT!!! My most favorite place to be is in da u.p.!!! Hope you all stay safe and nothing too serious will happen up there or below the bridge (thats where im from and all of my family is still there). But if the maps are right, there will be big changes coming to michigan!
wheelori814 1 year ago
@wheelori814 yep. thanks for the hope. i havnt seen the projected maps yet do you know where i can go to see them?
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
hang a plumbob from a tree branch and watch that
classicscrap1 1 year ago
@classicscrap1 good idea...
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
at the end of the crack does it go to a lake if so is that lake man made or have a name it look like it was pushup too me
classicscrap1 1 year ago
@classicscrap1 it goes along lake michigan. non-man made. but if it connects with the lake in the future it will become a new river or creek for sure...
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
wow you know the gps like to look it up on googleearth thx for theinfo
classicscrap1 1 year ago
@classicscrap1 sorry i dont but carneyart might know...
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
We had an earthquake down here in East Central Indiana just a cpl weeks ago.like a 3.8.That doesnt happen often.Freaked me out.
ChannelTheron 1 year ago
@ChannelTheron its the new madrid fault line acting up. dont know what caused our crack though.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
hmmm.....interesting, please keep us posted to your findings. Thank you
NWOIS666 1 year ago
@NWOIS666 will do...
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
I'm glad you & Stace did another video/report on this crack.Back in mid summer when this occurred the land owners said they heard a loud noise & when the news reported it they said the USGS was on their way to investigate.Not sure if the USGS or any Universities have investigated it or are even concerned.Today I checked out some video cameras (infrared) but right now I can't afford 1 plus my car broke so I'm in a bind but would love to help with this & much more.
Truth~Peace~Love2All
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SSArt98 1 year ago
@SSArt98 well i have to fix my wifes jeep first but then a new camera is on the venue. i have no idea if usgs ever came out there but i doubt it. will keep going back as much as i can and with the gear i can.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
Great report!! Thanks!!
freedom4kaz 1 year ago
@freedom4kaz you're welcome
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
Did you try to put a lighter near the crack? Have you taken the temp near the crack or insert a temp gauge into hole? ; ) The tree trunks also seem to be giving off more heat also? Thanks for the update, sent via (Stace) CarneyArt
And I would LOVE to hear your opinion on it also. Thanks guys.
happygalmarried 1 year ago
@happygalmarried i plan on going back next month on the 4th time permitting after my appointment in iron mtn. it is then i plan to bring my gps, thermometer, altimeter, and what ever i can get from the geology club at my university. hopefully we can get a better idea of what is going on.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
@happygalmarried oh ya i used to gather methane from the swamp as a kid to make mini bombs and such. perhaps i can capture some of the air the same way to take away and light it to see if it is flamable. cause if it is i dont want to blow it up standing there with a match lol.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
@FixedByDoc LOL If yah do make sure you get it on Video. : )
Can't wait for part 2. Be well, and safe.
happygalmarried 1 year ago
@happygalmarried well wife has standing orders to get out camera first set up on stand then grab the first aid kit when ever im seriously hurt or about to be...
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
@FixedByDoc LOL, AND hook yourself up to a bungee cord ; )
happygalmarried 1 year ago
Did you notice that the snow around the trees seemed to be melted. Great video. Thanks
Knockreaghimages 1 year ago
@Knockreaghimages that could be due to the heat from the ground, but keep in mind we did have a lot of snow melt all over during the last major CME last week.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
cool you were able to be out there with Carneyart.... Your title was funny, the crack out back... lol....
With that said, it's amazing that you guys could sense the heat and that you could see some melting around that crack.... wow...
Great vid, thanks for posting!
praeeo 1 year ago
@praeeo yw welcome. i will have more vids with him over time as well.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
Looks like pre pole shift phenomonem
joe2trees 1 year ago
@joe2trees maybe
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
That was neat curious if old mine underneath or a fault line
medicjimr 1 year ago
@medicjimr to close to lake michigan to be a mine shaft i would think. but could be a fault line or anything really.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
Oh Man, and heat too, ?
hurchel 1 year ago
@hurchel crazy never seen this before myself till now.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
That's crazy! What's USGS have to say?
HawkLMT 1 year ago
@HawkLMT nothing has been said by any officials and no reports at city hall that i know of.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
roof of a cave I bet
rmojo23 1 year ago
@rmojo23 could be didnt think of that...
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
@carneyart no prob friend. i go to iron mountain once a month for the next 4 months so may be able to go again soon with some equipment.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
Thanks for the vid!
FRIENDTARD 1 year ago
@FRIENDTARD yw
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
wow. ever neet! Hopefully this is a leaking steam pipe or something fixable. A fault line is bad...
TUNIQlifestyle 1 year ago
@TUNIQlifestyle this is o steam pipe. the local gov ppl and such have been out to look over the summer and nothing has been done on there end. also this area was flat and has risen and widend over time. i have some theorys but just theorys no answers.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
Neat you are working together on this! When I heard Stace mention heat, 1st thing I thought of was Yellowstone - but you said no stink. Next I thought maybe a hot springs was being formed - so I searched for Michigan hot springs, thinking there might be a way to connect the current crack with them. But none are documented, at least at quick glance. However a zoomed in overhead satellite photo (google maps) of topography shows what looks like this 'cracking' could've happened before, too.
hunt1803 1 year ago
@hunt1803 yeah its puzzling. i should learn more the more i go.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
That sure is puzzeling...is this crack on the Madrid fault line?
MagicaRose 1 year ago
@MagicaRose not directly to my knowledge but will be looking innto it...
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
well thats strange
throatkutinjuggalo17 1 year ago
@throatkutinjuggalo17 hey there i did a call out for a vid response from you did you see it? its titled 5 things to think about and 5 ppl call out...
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
@FixedByDoc yes i did see it and i am working on the vid right now i only have 3 of the five things so im going to get the vid up soon
throatkutinjuggalo17 1 year ago
@throatkutinjuggalo17 good cause i want a young persons view and your the youngest of my loyal subs. lol
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
@FixedByDoc a vid you want a vid youll get lol
throatkutinjuggalo17 1 year ago
Wow, must be a magma chamber down there. Wonder how deep it is? 100, 200Ft?
trailkeeper 1 year ago
@trailkeeper Or being so long, it could be a drift of two earth "plates".
trailkeeper 1 year ago
@trailkeeper perhaps. next time when i have more time i will bring along a digital thermometer and my gps and some other tools for monitering and see what i can come up with. also be great to get a log of temps to see if getting hotter, colder, or stays the same.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
@trailkeeper Not magma down in the crack, definately not, and warmth from the earth is nothing special...
mikisenx 1 year ago
@mikisenx Then what is it? And if it is "plates" did they first "push together" to make that hill, and now pulled apart?
trailkeeper 1 year ago
@trailkeeper they have done that before in many other parts of the world. just look at the african contenant the same is happening there too, but in a huge scale.
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
@trailkeeper The earth is always warm - that's why you can warm up houses using ground heat, it's a common thing. Magma you will find 40 kilometers down or so :-)
mikisenx 1 year ago
@mikisenx any explanation at this point is just theory unless of course its made by someone who works in the feild and has run tests on this area. who knows maybe carneyart's and I's videos will get noticed and bring in some specialist... lets hope...
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
@Woah429 you too
FixedByDoc 1 year ago
thanx for postin this!
ilovety65 1 year ago
@ilovety65 you are welcome
FixedByDoc 1 year ago