@superranger94 the LT1 is a very powerful small block if its taken care of and not abused. my 93 LT1 will smoke all 90's and early 2000's GTs in my area. STOCK. I dont need extras
lol you gtfo, a v6 firebird is faster than a mustang gt of the same year. a 1998 v6 Firebird will beat a 1998 Mustang GT, Ive owned a v6 Firebird and spanked plenty of GTs, even GT owners of those years admit it. Look at the specs and look at track times and road course times, you can't argue it. It's a fact. LMFAO @ you saying Mustang has more modding availability. More than a v6? Sure. More than an LS1? Lol if they do it's only because they need more mods to keep up
@GAMER654 yo buddy your speaking bull i beat a camero lt1 with jsut gears 373 all it took it was 190hp v8 vs his 270hp or whatever still beat em him till the quater mile and the v6 are jokes
@GAMER654 The 1998 Mustang GT had 225HP compared to the 1998 Firebird V6 with 200HP. Now the V6 Firebird would hang with the Mustang GT for awhile, but that GT will run low 14's and the V6 Firebird will run low 15's in the 1/4 mile, no way you could walk a GT all the time. It has 25HP on you, and a lot more torque.
personally idk much about T/As but i do know the ws6 sounds fucking sick as hell and i would love to get my stang to sound that mean. T/As will always be in a class of there own cause they are bad mofos ;)
honestly it dont matter which is faster. there will always be someone who has more money in there car,its all about who has more money in it. T/As and stangs and camaros.....all american. we should stick together instead of hate on each other. HATE RICE LOVE MUSCLE
@BRBLS1 another thing people forget about mustangs, the 5.0 lived in the single port days. extremely bad air restriction, they were good for what they were but that was a super bad idea by ford, thats why i laugh when people say they beat a 1998 or previous mustang and say "well they were very high end power restricted" lol
@mattspontiacta Nice, but I never bought the Mach 1. My LT1 is a cool car but mine has blown head gaskets and bad heads... I still have it but its out of commission. And before it died it get beat by my mustang, but I am not into racing really. I buy American muscle for the look, sound, feel and heritage. Its more fun going to car shows than the drag strip blowing rods and ripping out rear ends. Id rather spend my money on other pass time hobbies which I enjoy more.
@mattspontiacta I will say just remember just remember there is always a faster car. Ford/GM or whatever the car may say doesn't entitle the car a victory. If you're worried about speed and always winning you should probably not buy a 1993 LT1 because now days they make ZR1 vettes and such that would embarrass a LT1, 285hp is nothing when family cars are coming out now with 300+. lol
@SuRihtanil I respect your opinion, glad to hear you still have the bird. There is always a faster car out there be GM, Ford, and such. I have never lost to a 2003-2004 Mach 1, or any stock Mustang from the 80's to 2010 in my 93 LT1 Firehawk. My car was rated at 300hp in 1993 with the SLP Firehawk package. It runs mid 13's in the 1/4. Basically a second faster than what the 93 Trans am ran in 1993. I know it won;t run with a 2011 Mustang GT as they are 412 hp.
@SuRihtanil The new family sedans are quick but not quick enough. My 93 Hawk now has a full exhaust and runs in the low 13's at 105 mph. It will hammer most new sedans in the 300 plus hp range like the Nissian Maxima with no problem. I like my power and looks of my American Muscle always will. Now get your formula fixed and drive it.
@mattspontiacta Mine is a 96 formula 6spd. A couple bolt on, exhaust work, I lost to my friends 05 Grand Prix GXP with his kid in the back, wife in the passenger seat. I think his GXP is rated at 305hp. His GXP also beat our other friend's auto1994 Z28. That is the moment I lost some interest in my car. I also lost to a 1996 Mustang Cobra I was on my way to walmart, and that really chapped my ass! My mustang is a 1994 GT with some mods done to it, and it lost to it as well.
@SuRihtanil You should have beat the GXP by a length or 2 unless the GXP as been modified. There is a GP GXP vs a 1995 Formula on you tube, the Formula wins. The GXP has a exhaust done, and the Formula has a cutout. The GXP takes him off the start then the Formula catches and passes him. The LT1 should beat the GXP of the line easy if its in proper tune, Fresh optispark, sparkplugs and plugwires. The LT1 cars are getting old and alot of them have not been kept up maintenance wise.
@mattspontiacta I have plans to stroke the formula to a 383 then there will be no losing. lol but I doubt I race it, I don't go out looking for a race, but like any man if a cool car pulls up beside me I'll punch it and give him a go.
@SuRihtanil Before I would stroke it look at what you have now. If over 100k then I would do new sparkplugs and plug wires and probably a new optispark. Go with AC Delco or Delphi optispark which is OEM factory. The opti runs about $325 new, dont buy the $125 junk on ebay. If you do the optispark ,replace the waterpump also. Its expensive. But she runs like brand new. Opti, waterpump, sparkplugs and OVC Taylor wires ran me $525 in parts. I did it myself. Well worth it.
@mas12310 Yeah you're right about mustang having more modding available, my 5.0 mustang had tons of stuff I could buy/upgrade, but my 1996 LT1 formula has only a small area of mods available compared to my 5.0. I will say however my LT1 is so much faster than the stock 5.0 I had.
@SuRihtanil yeah i have friends with both cars stock the LT1 is far faster but they both have had the cars for 8-10 months and his is still stock while my friend with the mustang has a full exhaust, gears ,and a CAI and has surpassed him, mods for 5.0 are affordable and all over
LT1s are a good match for a 99-04 GT. LS1s are a good match against Mach 1s. But you have factory freaks on both sides. And sometimes a gear swap and a good driver wins the race.
This comment I agree with, though I've seen v6 Firebirds beat v8 Mustangs of the same year. In all honesty, I don't hate the Mustang like I do other cars (fucking ricer bitches), and if I see a nice Stang I give it props, though most all look the same to me. A ton of them are all generic and stock.
First of all y'all need to get your facts straight the new 2011 stands run 13.0-13.2, the new camaro runs 12.8-13.1 so for all you stang lovers there not faster, they hiped them up way to much and the reason for the good test runs was becasue they put 3.73 and 4.10 gears on the stang which are not standard on any of them unless you special order it
@Mr95Z28 Don't know where you got your numbers from but the new stang has ran as low as 12.5@114+...The SS hasn't run anywhere close to that...best time I saw for the ss was 12.8....the new 2011 GT is no JOKE.
@Camaromandave98 just so everyone knows..... Camaromandave98 is an internet gangster so watch out.... he might leave mean comments and try to make you cry over the internet. what a fuckin loser. like i said before tough guy. put your money where your faggot mouth is bitch.
@streetballn226 so can you tell me how they're better? considering every N/A mustang built was slower than the fbodies. stock-stock, fbodies always kill mustangs. all the way into 2010. thats fucking terrible. so again; how are they "better"?
@deadeyedickification well i wasnt really refering to cars from the past. just today. the 2011 mustang 5.0, runs 12.4 in the 1/4 i dont think any other pony car or your favorite fbodies even run within half a second of that
@streetballn226 no shit genious. considering the 2010 stangs push 430 to the wheels, they better pull times like that. but fuck, have you seen fbodies run the 1/4 with that kind of power? they run 12.1's to 12.0's all day. type it in and see what you find. im not impressed with the new 5-0 or any other mustang. they're hyped up to something they're not and thats a fact.
@deadeyedickification yeah that was completly wrong dude. 2010 mustang had 315 engine horsepower thats like 270 to the wheels. and the 2011 has about 400 to the wheels according to edmunds and motor trend. but you know thats just the 2 most popular auto critics saying that... nothing big.
LMFAO, youre the funniest person I've ever seen on Youtube. My v6 bird has taken out 98 GT's, an LT1 would more than finish the job. The new engine I'm dropping in soon with the Procharger will be more than enough to take out any stock GT or GT500 for all that it matters.
Some stang owners said to a few Camaro owners (regarding the new 2011 Stang) Are you mad that our Stangs are faster than the new Camaro? 'nah not rly, were tired of our 12 yr old cars beating your new ones'
That is definitely interesting indeed. Especially when my friends stock Ls1 vs my other friends stock 07 GT killed the GT, and not not just by a hair either. I'm kinda having trouble believing your stock 05 GT beat a stock WS6. Basically because that would not happen. Look at other videos of stock TAs vs stock Mustang GT's of high years. There's one of a guy in black TA vs his friends black 08 Mustang GT bullit, TA wins
dumb shit i never said a 93 mach 1 i said a 03 mach 1 god damn look before you talk shit. both of you need to get out of high school and quit driving your moms honda. then come play with the big boys. mustangs are bitch cars for fags like you who are scarred of fucking power. when you get out of high school and grow some balls why dont you meet me some where and we can see whose car is faster. until then get back to some homework of something
read my older post...i did the work to the car. The formula had gears and exhaust and maybe a cai or something. the mustang had back cut valves. port and polished non-pi heads. pi cams and pi intake. gears, full exhaust and some other small shit. Yes the mustang is way faster than the formula as it should be because it was built more...
there is no way a stock lt1 can beat a cobra or mach one. they are both more light and more powerful. unless the driver was just a disaster. the cobra and mach one have over 300 horse stock.
yea 00-02 had 300 on the dot and mach 1s have 310. at the track and on a set of mickey P275/40R17 et street drag radials i will beat them by at the least a half a car everytime.
dude, a stock mach 1 runs low 13's and a stock lt1 runs low 14's, if you're lucky. i just dont understand how you think a stock formula can beat a mach 1. the only way for that to happen is if the driver of the mach1/cobra cannot drive. if both cars had a decent launch and good shifting then the mach 1 would clearly win.
the mach 1 was a stick and it was an 1/8 mile and the mach had a shitty driver and street tires and i had slicks and a full suspension and exhaust. but any way im not arguing about a mach im arguing that the car cannot be a formula and get beat by a gt that easy
well, i have a 98 gt with full exhaust, msd coils, new plugs and wires, a PI intake manifold, K&N cone filter and i beat a stock LT1. Its not like this video is the only occurrence. LT1's with nothing done arent really that quik
well the lt1s all had different amounts of horsepower throughout the years there were mad on top of having different gears. but even with the mods you have was it honestly that bad of a beating in this video. im not arguing that your car is slow or that all mustangs are slow im just simply arguing that this car in this video can not possible be an lt1 i have eaten gts with mine numerous of time both stick and auto. im just stating that an lt1 wouldnt have lost that bad. nothing personal
i will admit that this guy in the video did completely dust the lt1 which seems a little weird unless he has a lot done to his stang. a stock 98 gt has 225 horse and a stock lt1 has like 275( i dont know how much it varies from year to year) so this guy must have had a shitload of mods or the guy in the trans am cant drive. my mustang beat that lt1 by almost a car length, he was right on me the whole time. and dont worry no offense taken just conversation.
that mustang had to be moded. not that formula is the badest car by anymeans (i have 95 firebird formula ) its fun as hell to drive. but seeing how the mustang rolled on that firebird , i mean come on . i think the cobra of that time put out 305hp and the gt was like 215hp.95 formula put out 275hp with 320ft.lbs,96 to 97 went to 285hp & 330 torque unless u got ram air witch was 315hp or the slp firehawk that was 330 hp and like 345ft.lbs,unless moded the gt will not beat a firebird if its the v8
i will admit the npi motor sucks. but the 4.6 npi is the shittier version of the PI 4.6, kinda like the lt1 is to the ls1 5.7. you can say my car is slow, that's fine, but i still beat a lt1 with my mods so w/e. i never claimed my car was some kind of beast.
so let me get this straight. You are an American. So, I am assuming you live in America. In your previous post you talk about beating 2002 Cobras. Then, you go on to tell me how they did produce them in Australia, which, I did find out is correct. There were 100 of them made. So i find the likely hood of you actually racing one slim to none. Expecially speaking that they are right hand drive and not permitted in the US. But regardless you are a douche bag.
Ok little cock stain you once again you speak, and make yourself look like a classic inbred hick. i do live in America. i was in Australia for 2 years when i was in the Army, and i had my car shipped over. I found the street racing there and there sits 1 of those 100 02 cobra and I handed him his ass just like i will hand you yours. By the way homo just cause a car is right hand drive does not mean that they are not permitted in the U.S.. Once again redneck do your fucking research.
It had 3.73. Port and polished heads, back cut valves, pi cams, pi intake, ported throttle body and upper plenum, Long Tubes, CIA, off road H and dumps, and my friends faggot ass driving.
why dont u tell us how much engine work u have done, cause there is no fuckin way u are goin to outrun an lt1. i spanked 2 98 gt last night with my stock lt1 M6 with 4.10 gears
Yeah most are but some of us actually know what were talking about... man i hate these little 13 year olds that have to argue about everything just because their daddy or something has a cool car and they want to act like they know everything.
yay a cobra, the top of the line mustang can keep up with a baseline corvette. just give it up. the corvette is the longest lasting american car and its a bigger icon than the mustang. go ahead and talk about the camaro because we are not going to change each others minds.
wow the mustang is a muscle car. i never knew that. becuase you know the mustang has been a pony car since 64. and all the mustang is a the cheapest pony car you can buy. if you put the mustang and corvette next to each other. about 65% of the people will have there eyes locked on the corvette. srry the corvette has & always will be americas favorite car. plus its one of the longest lasting or if not the longest lasting american car name. but they do have a sound that no other car can make
i love how you dumbass ford guys think that ford make the american icon. well they didnt GM with the corvette. so as soon as you can get fords dick out of your ass and get your vision back you might see that . but i dont know ford has came in your eyes alot with there S/C POS cars. o well, too late to save you.
save me from what? my dads old chevy broke down at LEAST every 4000 miles, now he's got an f350 with 86xxx on it, not one problem, your a big fucking tool to talk about how ford "came" in my eyes, you pissed cause 90% of chevys are on the road and the other 10% made it home, doesn't look like gm's gonna be around too much longer so s on my dad cnug
ok just like in 05 when my dad bought a brand new f-350. after 2 weeks he already had to take back to the dealership so they could fix the POS truck. so he ended up trading it for an 04 chevy 3500 duramax silverado. hes had it for almost 4 years an not once has he had to take it in for repairs. and thank you for the gm not being around statment you said. because there are only 2 ways a ford beats a chevy. 1. its S/C against a stock N/A vehicle. or 2. chevy not around. so brush off that CUM! HAHA
no its the only way a ford can beat a chevy is that if there is no more chevy. damn i feel sorry for you. fords stuck there dick in your mouth so much i think they literaly fucked your brains out. your poor poor little fag. o well.
@GAMER654 So i guess the Firebird was a better car? Oh by the way, are they still making those? Didn't think so. Go have a Natty and caress your mullet.
Wow your cool, you responded to something from 9 months ago. Go kill yourself. Who gives a shit if they're still made? For 12 years the v8 Firebird shit on the v8 Mustang, all the way up till 2010 so stfu anf gtfo. All you Mustang owners pull the gay mullet jokes, thats only for Camaros retard. Go try to make your car fast
@GAMER654 Go kill myself? Because? And alot of cars can beat a Mustang. And what are you talking about "up till 2010? They ended production of the Firebird in 2002. And rightly so. Its a hideous car. Mustangs have stood the test of time and even branched off into full blown racing classes like NMRA. And its not only Camaro owners with trailer park mullets. The Firebirds ran off a Camaro based platform.
Because idiots like you are a waste of space. I'm talking about a 98' Camaro being able to beat a 2010 Mustang, the LS1 has beaten the Mustang UP UNTIL 2010. If you hadn't noticed, they brought the Camaro back. The Firebird is a MUCH better looking car than a chunky oversized rustang. I'm so proud of the Mustang standing the test of time, too bad the Camaro has 10 years or so less time on the market. *rolls eyes* The camaro has made it into the NMRA too btw. And it is only the Maro
@GAMER654 I drive a different car than you so im a waste of space. That makes no sense. But I guess according to you we should all just drive Chevys and Pontiacs. By the way how is Pontiac doing? Shut down, thats right. And a Firebird is a pig nosed piece of plastic crap with a horrible unibody layout just like the Camaro. All that engine and they make it a PITB to run true duals. The 5 foot tall windshield isn't helping matters either. And have fun changing the back 4 spark plugs.
Actually, the only Pontiac I'm really a fan of is the Firebird/Trans Am and the old school GTO, and that's about it. Chevy was awesome, but the past 10 years have just sucked. Frankly I don't like where GM is headed, so I give you that. The mustang is an uncommon, oversized, overweight car. The v6 98' Firebird is faster than the v8 98' Mustang. True duals can easily be done on the F-body platform if you know what you're doing. If spark plugs are an issue for you, just stop. GIve up
@GAMER654 your Mustang comment doesnt make much sense so i made you one that does FIREBIRD: F-or I-lliterate R-edneck E-vil B-isexual I-gnorant R-acist D-ickheads
GM includes Corvette and the corvette would rape any GT. And besides, no GM enthusiast is shitting himself if the Mustang is FINALLY beating out Firebirds or Camaros after 12 years of being behind. The 2011 GT vs a 4th gen LS1 Fbody is also a debatable race that doesn't exactly have the new GT dominating the FBody. Maybe Ford is making a turn around in the next few years, I don't know. I don't really like where GM is going, so who knows how the next few years will be?
You obviously didnt and Im not going to read it back to you. And fine, compare a ZR1 Vette to a Ford GT, ZR1 will spank it. Hell even the new Z06 would spank it
@GAMER654 Stock for stock? Depending on the driver, but if both are equil drivers and both have ideal conditions the new 4V 5.0 is faster than the F-body LS1. However Modded LS1 and Stock new 5.0 the LS wins. At least its american and not imported and riced out.
wildbloodydragon is right... but he is pulling the same fanboy bullshit lol. you can make either car fast retard. in the end the camaro will probably come out on top but who cares mustang is sexier and is still fast :P id take mustang over ugly rattly camaro anyday you fucking faggot ass fanboy
they put DOHC heads in the ford marks, im a mechanic plus i lm a mustang fan and i think the modular engine are fucking joke thats why i have all my 3 stangs with 5.0 and 5.8
A lt1 has around 285 hp stock, the gt mustang only has around 225 stock, it wasnt till 2000 did they change something in the pistons or something to give it around 265, I really doubt the trans am was tryin or maybe the gt was just really modded who knows
In fact I have a1998 Camaro Z28. It has full Hooker exaust, that's encluding shorty headers. A yank 3800 stall converter, and a computer tune, so pretty much a stock car except bolt ons and it runs 7.70's
well either the guy couldn't drive or his car is sick cause mustangs are not that quick. GM is awesom, just because they're bankrupt doesen't mean they are not still a buisness, aleast the union is out of the way.
Simple, genuine, and fanboy Bullshit. Will always fall short when truth is told.
There are a billion possibilities to why a Formula that should have slapped that weakling little 225hp Mustang didn't do as well as expected. Doesn't change the fact that the stock Camaro and TA have always been and still are faster than Mustangs. Numbers don't lie, and if you're trying to rely on any evidence, maybe thats what you're looking for, not a random ass video on youtube.
F-bodies weren't faster from 87-91 when they were still using the TPI motor, so you can't really say they've "always" been faster. Also The Boss 429 and old Cobra Jets would lay down some ass whoopings too.
Oh I definately agree for the most part they have been. Some cases like when the 96-97 Cobras had the 4V and the f-body still used the LT1 the mustang was faster, but once 98 came around and the f-bodies got the LS1 they were pretty much untouchable stock vs stock.
I wish GM wouldn't have stopped f-body production right before the 03 cobra came out, I would have loved to have seen what they would have countered with.
Yeah definitely, I really like how the F-Body's were light, good looking and rigid. Not exactly practical but the looks and speed made up for it very well.
I'm really looking forward to a non-retro design for the 6th generation Camaros.
actually the 96-97 SS vs 96-97 cobra really came down to a drivers race. but i think ford put most of there time in the cobra. because why would anyone leave there best selling mustang at only 215hp for 4 years before finally bumping it up 10 hp.
Yea same here guys, thats gotta be a v6 cuz I whoop the shit outta my friends 97 and were both pretty much stock with manual cars.
mike510 1 month ago
Stock for Stock, the Bird would eat that Stang for breakfast.
XtcRaver420 4 months ago
@superranger94 the LT1 is a very powerful small block if its taken care of and not abused. my 93 LT1 will smoke all 90's and early 2000's GTs in my area. STOCK. I dont need extras
fenderbassman13 7 months ago
@mas12310
lol you gtfo, a v6 firebird is faster than a mustang gt of the same year. a 1998 v6 Firebird will beat a 1998 Mustang GT, Ive owned a v6 Firebird and spanked plenty of GTs, even GT owners of those years admit it. Look at the specs and look at track times and road course times, you can't argue it. It's a fact. LMFAO @ you saying Mustang has more modding availability. More than a v6? Sure. More than an LS1? Lol if they do it's only because they need more mods to keep up
GAMER654 9 months ago
@GAMER654 yo buddy your speaking bull i beat a camero lt1 with jsut gears 373 all it took it was 190hp v8 vs his 270hp or whatever still beat em him till the quater mile and the v6 are jokes
george3681 7 months ago
@GAMER654 The 1998 Mustang GT had 225HP compared to the 1998 Firebird V6 with 200HP. Now the V6 Firebird would hang with the Mustang GT for awhile, but that GT will run low 14's and the V6 Firebird will run low 15's in the 1/4 mile, no way you could walk a GT all the time. It has 25HP on you, and a lot more torque.
Quatermain98526 7 months ago
personally idk much about T/As but i do know the ws6 sounds fucking sick as hell and i would love to get my stang to sound that mean. T/As will always be in a class of there own cause they are bad mofos ;)
skittles743 10 months ago
that gt isnt stock
Mr1ati2de 11 months ago
lol you look goofy ass hell
MEADOWSracing78 11 months ago
That GT is far from stock.
vfIskullangel 1 year ago
Quit picking on those GM V6 cars.
mattspontiacta 1 year ago 10
honestly it dont matter which is faster. there will always be someone who has more money in there car,its all about who has more money in it. T/As and stangs and camaros.....all american. we should stick together instead of hate on each other. HATE RICE LOVE MUSCLE
skittles743 1 year ago 29
@skittles743 well said my friend. We are all proud American's. Long live gas guzzling American muscle!
BRBLS1 10 months ago
@BRBLS1 another thing people forget about mustangs, the 5.0 lived in the single port days. extremely bad air restriction, they were good for what they were but that was a super bad idea by ford, thats why i laugh when people say they beat a 1998 or previous mustang and say "well they were very high end power restricted" lol
skittles743 10 months ago
@skittles743 Yeah, I have owned both mustang and firebird. I am actually selling my formula for a mach 1... go figure. :P
SuRihtanil 8 months ago
@SuRihtanil OK so your a sell out. Buy a Mach 1 just another one I will beat.
mattspontiacta 1 week ago
@mattspontiacta Nice, but I never bought the Mach 1. My LT1 is a cool car but mine has blown head gaskets and bad heads... I still have it but its out of commission. And before it died it get beat by my mustang, but I am not into racing really. I buy American muscle for the look, sound, feel and heritage. Its more fun going to car shows than the drag strip blowing rods and ripping out rear ends. Id rather spend my money on other pass time hobbies which I enjoy more.
SuRihtanil 6 days ago
@mattspontiacta I will say just remember just remember there is always a faster car. Ford/GM or whatever the car may say doesn't entitle the car a victory. If you're worried about speed and always winning you should probably not buy a 1993 LT1 because now days they make ZR1 vettes and such that would embarrass a LT1, 285hp is nothing when family cars are coming out now with 300+. lol
SuRihtanil 6 days ago
@SuRihtanil I respect your opinion, glad to hear you still have the bird. There is always a faster car out there be GM, Ford, and such. I have never lost to a 2003-2004 Mach 1, or any stock Mustang from the 80's to 2010 in my 93 LT1 Firehawk. My car was rated at 300hp in 1993 with the SLP Firehawk package. It runs mid 13's in the 1/4. Basically a second faster than what the 93 Trans am ran in 1993. I know it won;t run with a 2011 Mustang GT as they are 412 hp.
mattspontiacta 6 days ago
@SuRihtanil The new family sedans are quick but not quick enough. My 93 Hawk now has a full exhaust and runs in the low 13's at 105 mph. It will hammer most new sedans in the 300 plus hp range like the Nissian Maxima with no problem. I like my power and looks of my American Muscle always will. Now get your formula fixed and drive it.
mattspontiacta 6 days ago
@mattspontiacta Mine is a 96 formula 6spd. A couple bolt on, exhaust work, I lost to my friends 05 Grand Prix GXP with his kid in the back, wife in the passenger seat. I think his GXP is rated at 305hp. His GXP also beat our other friend's auto1994 Z28. That is the moment I lost some interest in my car. I also lost to a 1996 Mustang Cobra I was on my way to walmart, and that really chapped my ass! My mustang is a 1994 GT with some mods done to it, and it lost to it as well.
SuRihtanil 6 days ago
@SuRihtanil You should have beat the GXP by a length or 2 unless the GXP as been modified. There is a GP GXP vs a 1995 Formula on you tube, the Formula wins. The GXP has a exhaust done, and the Formula has a cutout. The GXP takes him off the start then the Formula catches and passes him. The LT1 should beat the GXP of the line easy if its in proper tune, Fresh optispark, sparkplugs and plugwires. The LT1 cars are getting old and alot of them have not been kept up maintenance wise.
mattspontiacta 5 days ago
@mattspontiacta I have plans to stroke the formula to a 383 then there will be no losing. lol but I doubt I race it, I don't go out looking for a race, but like any man if a cool car pulls up beside me I'll punch it and give him a go.
SuRihtanil 6 days ago
@SuRihtanil Before I would stroke it look at what you have now. If over 100k then I would do new sparkplugs and plug wires and probably a new optispark. Go with AC Delco or Delphi optispark which is OEM factory. The opti runs about $325 new, dont buy the $125 junk on ebay. If you do the optispark ,replace the waterpump also. Its expensive. But she runs like brand new. Opti, waterpump, sparkplugs and OVC Taylor wires ran me $525 in parts. I did it myself. Well worth it.
mattspontiacta 5 days ago
@mattspontiacta thanks
SuRihtanil 4 days ago
@skittles743 damn straight anerican muscle thats where its at!
tyler62292 5 months ago
good to see a mustang beat something...
03basesedan 1 year ago
@mas12310 Yeah you're right about mustang having more modding available, my 5.0 mustang had tons of stuff I could buy/upgrade, but my 1996 LT1 formula has only a small area of mods available compared to my 5.0. I will say however my LT1 is so much faster than the stock 5.0 I had.
SuRihtanil 1 year ago
@SuRihtanil yeah i have friends with both cars stock the LT1 is far faster but they both have had the cars for 8-10 months and his is still stock while my friend with the mustang has a full exhaust, gears ,and a CAI and has surpassed him, mods for 5.0 are affordable and all over
styylite 1 year ago
LT1s are a good match for a 99-04 GT. LS1s are a good match against Mach 1s. But you have factory freaks on both sides. And sometimes a gear swap and a good driver wins the race.
Floordford 1 year ago
@Floordford
This comment I agree with, though I've seen v6 Firebirds beat v8 Mustangs of the same year. In all honesty, I don't hate the Mustang like I do other cars (fucking ricer bitches), and if I see a nice Stang I give it props, though most all look the same to me. A ton of them are all generic and stock.
GAMER654 1 year ago
@Floordford Well said.
iceguy2003 1 year ago
@Camaromandave98 bring your strong lt1/ls1 my way bitch.
03Termin8tor 1 year ago
funny how the N/A mustang guys still bitch about Lt1s and the boosted mustang guys bitch about the Ls1 love it
JPARKERZ28 1 year ago
First of all y'all need to get your facts straight the new 2011 stands run 13.0-13.2, the new camaro runs 12.8-13.1 so for all you stang lovers there not faster, they hiped them up way to much and the reason for the good test runs was becasue they put 3.73 and 4.10 gears on the stang which are not standard on any of them unless you special order it
Mr95Z28 1 year ago
@Mr95Z28 Don't know where you got your numbers from but the new stang has ran as low as 12.5@114+...The SS hasn't run anywhere close to that...best time I saw for the ss was 12.8....the new 2011 GT is no JOKE.
burgerbird67 1 year ago
mustangs are way cooler than dumb pos lt1 formulas there ugly and junk and not worth spending money on
brent3360 1 year ago
@Camaromandave98 just so everyone knows..... Camaromandave98 is an internet gangster so watch out.... he might leave mean comments and try to make you cry over the internet. what a fuckin loser. like i said before tough guy. put your money where your faggot mouth is bitch.
03Termin8tor 1 year ago
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aa4baseball 1 year ago
@aa4baseball I have friends with LT1 f-bodies my friend, all those mods will get you is mid to low 13s (on a pefect day)
hypermite01 1 year ago
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aa4baseball 1 year ago
@aa4baseball damn dood ur ride soundz so killerz, tru dools in frunt of ur frooooonts TIRES!!?? FUCKIN SIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK DOOOOOOOOOOOD
400HP WiT JUST DEM BOLT ONZ OH SHIETS DOOD U GOT LIKE DA MOST BADAZZ CAR I EVER HERD OF!!
Dayummmmm I can't wait to tell all my niggaz bout ur BADAZZZZZ 400HP BOLTON LT1!!! AND DAYUMM IF U get a supahchurger i bet u gunna hav like 1200hp!
Bbdrew 1 year ago
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aa4baseball 1 year ago
@aa4baseball DOOD IM SRS UR CAR IS SO FUKIN SICK MAN!!!
N I DONT HAV A BICYCLE I HAV A TRIKE U FUCKER AND IT RUNS 12'S! WAIT'LL I GET MY HOOPCHARGER N ILL BE FASTER N U BWAHAHAH
Bbdrew 1 year ago
see for your self
streetballn226 1 year ago
gamer boys jealous that mustangs are better. haha
streetballn226 1 year ago
@streetballn226 so can you tell me how they're better? considering every N/A mustang built was slower than the fbodies. stock-stock, fbodies always kill mustangs. all the way into 2010. thats fucking terrible. so again; how are they "better"?
deadeyedickification 1 year ago
@deadeyedickification well i wasnt really refering to cars from the past. just today. the 2011 mustang 5.0, runs 12.4 in the 1/4 i dont think any other pony car or your favorite fbodies even run within half a second of that
streetballn226 1 year ago
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streetballn226 1 year ago
@streetballn226 no shit genious. considering the 2010 stangs push 430 to the wheels, they better pull times like that. but fuck, have you seen fbodies run the 1/4 with that kind of power? they run 12.1's to 12.0's all day. type it in and see what you find. im not impressed with the new 5-0 or any other mustang. they're hyped up to something they're not and thats a fact.
deadeyedickification 1 year ago
@deadeyedickification yeah that was completly wrong dude. 2010 mustang had 315 engine horsepower thats like 270 to the wheels. and the 2011 has about 400 to the wheels according to edmunds and motor trend. but you know thats just the 2 most popular auto critics saying that... nothing big.
streetballn226 1 year ago
@streetballn226 i meant to say 2011. motor trend dynoed it at 430~rwhp.
deadeyedickification 1 year ago
@streetballn226
LMFAO, youre the funniest person I've ever seen on Youtube. My v6 bird has taken out 98 GT's, an LT1 would more than finish the job. The new engine I'm dropping in soon with the Procharger will be more than enough to take out any stock GT or GT500 for all that it matters.
Some stang owners said to a few Camaro owners (regarding the new 2011 Stang) Are you mad that our Stangs are faster than the new Camaro? 'nah not rly, were tired of our 12 yr old cars beating your new ones'
GAMER654 1 year ago
@GAMER654 thats interesting... i wonder why my 05 gt stock was faster than a ws6.. must have been his driving right?
563ba 1 year ago
@563ba
That is definitely interesting indeed. Especially when my friends stock Ls1 vs my other friends stock 07 GT killed the GT, and not not just by a hair either. I'm kinda having trouble believing your stock 05 GT beat a stock WS6. Basically because that would not happen. Look at other videos of stock TAs vs stock Mustang GT's of high years. There's one of a guy in black TA vs his friends black 08 Mustang GT bullit, TA wins
GAMER654 1 year ago
@streetballn226
Lol over a year later and I still laugh at this dumbasses comment hahahahahaha
GAMER654 9 months ago
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xtreme3484 2 years ago
badass mustang. sounds good too.
aegisaks 2 years ago
02 cobras huh. and mach ones from 1993 you must be gifted
xtreme3484 2 years ago
lol +1
ilovericksmom2 2 years ago
dumb shit i never said a 93 mach 1 i said a 03 mach 1 god damn look before you talk shit. both of you need to get out of high school and quit driving your moms honda. then come play with the big boys. mustangs are bitch cars for fags like you who are scarred of fucking power. when you get out of high school and grow some balls why dont you meet me some where and we can see whose car is faster. until then get back to some homework of something
stokedformula 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
look at nerd box go hard with his uh whats your car again?
xtreme3484 2 years ago
wow. i wonder how much shit he had to do to that car to beat a Formula. sad.....
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
Dont matter what he had to do to it bro,,, winning is winning
albertorosales6 2 years ago
read my older post...i did the work to the car. The formula had gears and exhaust and maybe a cai or something. the mustang had back cut valves. port and polished non-pi heads. pi cams and pi intake. gears, full exhaust and some other small shit. Yes the mustang is way faster than the formula as it should be because it was built more...
ilovericksmom2 2 years ago
Most likely the Mustang was over sized camed.
Smokie420ish 2 years ago
How's it feel getting beaten by a 225bhp car?
zackomac 2 years ago
that can not be a formula cause i have a stock 95 and i have tore up -02 cobras and mach 1 there is no way a gt beat a formula that bad
stokedformula 2 years ago
there is no way a stock lt1 can beat a cobra or mach one. they are both more light and more powerful. unless the driver was just a disaster. the cobra and mach one have over 300 horse stock.
thea5rida2 2 years ago
yea 00-02 had 300 on the dot and mach 1s have 310. at the track and on a set of mickey P275/40R17 et street drag radials i will beat them by at the least a half a car everytime.
stokedformula 2 years ago
dude, a stock mach 1 runs low 13's and a stock lt1 runs low 14's, if you're lucky. i just dont understand how you think a stock formula can beat a mach 1. the only way for that to happen is if the driver of the mach1/cobra cannot drive. if both cars had a decent launch and good shifting then the mach 1 would clearly win.
thea5rida2 2 years ago
the mach 1 was a stick and it was an 1/8 mile and the mach had a shitty driver and street tires and i had slicks and a full suspension and exhaust. but any way im not arguing about a mach im arguing that the car cannot be a formula and get beat by a gt that easy
stokedformula 2 years ago
well, i have a 98 gt with full exhaust, msd coils, new plugs and wires, a PI intake manifold, K&N cone filter and i beat a stock LT1. Its not like this video is the only occurrence. LT1's with nothing done arent really that quik
thea5rida2 2 years ago
well the lt1s all had different amounts of horsepower throughout the years there were mad on top of having different gears. but even with the mods you have was it honestly that bad of a beating in this video. im not arguing that your car is slow or that all mustangs are slow im just simply arguing that this car in this video can not possible be an lt1 i have eaten gts with mine numerous of time both stick and auto. im just stating that an lt1 wouldnt have lost that bad. nothing personal
stokedformula 2 years ago
i will admit that this guy in the video did completely dust the lt1 which seems a little weird unless he has a lot done to his stang. a stock 98 gt has 225 horse and a stock lt1 has like 275( i dont know how much it varies from year to year) so this guy must have had a shitload of mods or the guy in the trans am cant drive. my mustang beat that lt1 by almost a car length, he was right on me the whole time. and dont worry no offense taken just conversation.
thea5rida2 2 years ago
well im glad to see that im not the only one that seems to think that is kind of odd that he beat the firebird that bad.
stokedformula 2 years ago
that mustang had to be moded. not that formula is the badest car by anymeans (i have 95 firebird formula ) its fun as hell to drive. but seeing how the mustang rolled on that firebird , i mean come on . i think the cobra of that time put out 305hp and the gt was like 215hp.95 formula put out 275hp with 320ft.lbs,96 to 97 went to 285hp & 330 torque unless u got ram air witch was 315hp or the slp firehawk that was 330 hp and like 345ft.lbs,unless moded the gt will not beat a firebird if its the v8
SuperWhiteWiddow 2 years ago
98 gt's are slow even with your mods you listed. 4.6 's in those years were extremly terrible
sinisterseven8 2 years ago
i will admit the npi motor sucks. but the 4.6 npi is the shittier version of the PI 4.6, kinda like the lt1 is to the ls1 5.7. you can say my car is slow, that's fine, but i still beat a lt1 with my mods so w/e. i never claimed my car was some kind of beast.
thea5rida2 2 years ago
i wouldnt compare it to the ls1 and the lt1. thats a little to big of a difference. those two engines are very different.
sinisterseven8 2 years ago
the npi and pi 4.6's are also very different. different heads, cams, intake manifold, compression ratios, power curve etc.
thea5rida2 2 years ago
those might all be different but the basic block is the same. ls1 and lt1 share hardly anything at all besides pushrod technology
sinisterseven8 2 years ago
and you are retarded to for thinking there are 02 cobras....go play with you balls and get rid of your mullet
ilovericksmom2 2 years ago
man you beat an 02 cobra??? that is pretty sweet since they never made an 02 cobra you fucking retard
ilovericksmom2 2 years ago
Actually fucktard your wrong they did make cobras in 02 in Australia. Do your research before talking shit.
stokedformula 2 years ago
Well I am proud to be an American.
ilovericksmom2 2 years ago
im an american too dip shit im just saying before making yourself looking like a dumb ass im-breed hick do some fucking research.
stokedformula 2 years ago
so let me get this straight. You are an American. So, I am assuming you live in America. In your previous post you talk about beating 2002 Cobras. Then, you go on to tell me how they did produce them in Australia, which, I did find out is correct. There were 100 of them made. So i find the likely hood of you actually racing one slim to none. Expecially speaking that they are right hand drive and not permitted in the US. But regardless you are a douche bag.
ilovericksmom2 2 years ago
Ok little cock stain you once again you speak, and make yourself look like a classic inbred hick. i do live in America. i was in Australia for 2 years when i was in the Army, and i had my car shipped over. I found the street racing there and there sits 1 of those 100 02 cobra and I handed him his ass just like i will hand you yours. By the way homo just cause a car is right hand drive does not mean that they are not permitted in the U.S.. Once again redneck do your fucking research.
stokedformula 2 years ago
you're absolutely gayer than aids
ilovericksmom2 2 years ago
hell yea! Lt1's suck. i ate one up with my 98 stang the other day too.
thea5rida2 2 years ago
what are your mods?
FDallaround 2 years ago
pi intake manifold, full exhaust with no cats, k&n cold air, msd coils
thea5rida2 2 years ago
have u ate the same year trans am?
mannyman84 2 years ago
I dont know what year it was, i just know it was a lt1 trans am, automatic.i beat him by almost a car length.
thea5rida2 2 years ago
same year as yours..thats what i ment
mannyman84 2 years ago
It had 3.73. Port and polished heads, back cut valves, pi cams, pi intake, ported throttle body and upper plenum, Long Tubes, CIA, off road H and dumps, and my friends faggot ass driving.
ilovericksmom2 2 years ago
why dont u tell us how much engine work u have done, cause there is no fuckin way u are goin to outrun an lt1. i spanked 2 98 gt last night with my stock lt1 M6 with 4.10 gears
TpainREDNECK 2 years ago
you have 4.10/4.30 don't you, that's some quick shifting :)
PI swapped?
Nice race. don't worry about youtube haters, most people on here are crazy kids :P
modularmustang 2 years ago
Yeah most are but some of us actually know what were talking about... man i hate these little 13 year olds that have to argue about everything just because their daddy or something has a cool car and they want to act like they know everything.
krazycardude 2 years ago
Boy i would have spanked your curly haired ass with my formula
woodgrain18 2 years ago 7
did that lt1 but it n reverce or was he sleeping when he was racing cuz a 98 mustang wouldnt b able to touch a lt1
beastntransam 2 years ago 2
straight up dude
GAMER654 2 years ago
history tells us the shitmaro is just a cheap knock off of the mustang.. mustang since 1964.......
plomoe666 2 years ago
u know that the shitstang was only made because the corvette was made.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
i dont think so the cobra kicked its ass all day lol...
plomoe666 2 years ago
yay a cobra, the top of the line mustang can keep up with a baseline corvette. just give it up. the corvette is the longest lasting american car and its a bigger icon than the mustang. go ahead and talk about the camaro because we are not going to change each others minds.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
427 shelby cobra always kicked stingray ass... and the mustang is americas fav muscle car hands down!!!
plomoe666 2 years ago
wow the mustang is a muscle car. i never knew that. becuase you know the mustang has been a pony car since 64. and all the mustang is a the cheapest pony car you can buy. if you put the mustang and corvette next to each other. about 65% of the people will have there eyes locked on the corvette. srry the corvette has & always will be americas favorite car. plus its one of the longest lasting or if not the longest lasting american car name. but they do have a sound that no other car can make
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
you know that shitmaro was only made cause the mustang, you fucking bowtie fan,
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fsherman898 2 years ago
i love how you dumbass ford guys think that ford make the american icon. well they didnt GM with the corvette. so as soon as you can get fords dick out of your ass and get your vision back you might see that . but i dont know ford has came in your eyes alot with there S/C POS cars. o well, too late to save you.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
save me from what? my dads old chevy broke down at LEAST every 4000 miles, now he's got an f350 with 86xxx on it, not one problem, your a big fucking tool to talk about how ford "came" in my eyes, you pissed cause 90% of chevys are on the road and the other 10% made it home, doesn't look like gm's gonna be around too much longer so s on my dad cnug
fsherman898 2 years ago
ok just like in 05 when my dad bought a brand new f-350. after 2 weeks he already had to take back to the dealership so they could fix the POS truck. so he ended up trading it for an 04 chevy 3500 duramax silverado. hes had it for almost 4 years an not once has he had to take it in for repairs. and thank you for the gm not being around statment you said. because there are only 2 ways a ford beats a chevy. 1. its S/C against a stock N/A vehicle. or 2. chevy not around. so brush off that CUM! HAHA
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
.... it wouldn't be a race if the chevy wasn't around stroke, so" GET THAT CUM OF YOUR SHOULDER, LOLZZ!!!!" fucking cunt
fsherman898 2 years ago
no its the only way a ford can beat a chevy is that if there is no more chevy. damn i feel sorry for you. fords stuck there dick in your mouth so much i think they literaly fucked your brains out. your poor poor little fag. o well.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
lol im jp bro
fsherman898 2 years ago
Um ok. GTFO.
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Those fucking rustangs are WAY overrated. I can't turn a fucking block in my 'bird without seeing one
GAMER654 2 years ago 3
Oh so true hahaha
krazycardude 2 years ago
haha, true dat!
FDallaround 2 years ago
No kidding
TanMan855 1 year ago
@GAMER654 So i guess the Firebird was a better car? Oh by the way, are they still making those? Didn't think so. Go have a Natty and caress your mullet.
Floordford 1 year ago
@Floordford
Wow your cool, you responded to something from 9 months ago. Go kill yourself. Who gives a shit if they're still made? For 12 years the v8 Firebird shit on the v8 Mustang, all the way up till 2010 so stfu anf gtfo. All you Mustang owners pull the gay mullet jokes, thats only for Camaros retard. Go try to make your car fast
GAMER654 1 year ago
@GAMER654 Go kill myself? Because? And alot of cars can beat a Mustang. And what are you talking about "up till 2010? They ended production of the Firebird in 2002. And rightly so. Its a hideous car. Mustangs have stood the test of time and even branched off into full blown racing classes like NMRA. And its not only Camaro owners with trailer park mullets. The Firebirds ran off a Camaro based platform.
Floordford 1 year ago
@Floordford
Because idiots like you are a waste of space. I'm talking about a 98' Camaro being able to beat a 2010 Mustang, the LS1 has beaten the Mustang UP UNTIL 2010. If you hadn't noticed, they brought the Camaro back. The Firebird is a MUCH better looking car than a chunky oversized rustang. I'm so proud of the Mustang standing the test of time, too bad the Camaro has 10 years or so less time on the market. *rolls eyes* The camaro has made it into the NMRA too btw. And it is only the Maro
GAMER654 1 year ago
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Floordford 1 year ago
@GAMER654 I drive a different car than you so im a waste of space. That makes no sense. But I guess according to you we should all just drive Chevys and Pontiacs. By the way how is Pontiac doing? Shut down, thats right. And a Firebird is a pig nosed piece of plastic crap with a horrible unibody layout just like the Camaro. All that engine and they make it a PITB to run true duals. The 5 foot tall windshield isn't helping matters either. And have fun changing the back 4 spark plugs.
Floordford 1 year ago
@Floordford
Actually, the only Pontiac I'm really a fan of is the Firebird/Trans Am and the old school GTO, and that's about it. Chevy was awesome, but the past 10 years have just sucked. Frankly I don't like where GM is headed, so I give you that. The mustang is an uncommon, oversized, overweight car. The v6 98' Firebird is faster than the v8 98' Mustang. True duals can easily be done on the F-body platform if you know what you're doing. If spark plugs are an issue for you, just stop. GIve up
GAMER654 1 year ago
trevorpollo 1 year ago
@trevorpollo Fine, here's a better one
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GAMER654 1 year ago 2
@GAMER654 ya uh except for the 2011gt
KillaPontiac 1 year ago
@KillaPontiac
GM includes Corvette and the corvette would rape any GT. And besides, no GM enthusiast is shitting himself if the Mustang is FINALLY beating out Firebirds or Camaros after 12 years of being behind. The 2011 GT vs a 4th gen LS1 Fbody is also a debatable race that doesn't exactly have the new GT dominating the FBody. Maybe Ford is making a turn around in the next few years, I don't know. I don't really like where GM is going, so who knows how the next few years will be?
GAMER654 1 year ago
@GAMER654 why are you comparing a corvette to a mustang??
Sk8FalIen 1 year ago
@Sk8FalIen
Because it's a GM vs Ford debate, read all of the comments next time
GAMER654 9 months ago
@GAMER654 i did. your still comparing apples to oranges. if your going to compare a ford car to a gm compare the vette and the ford gt.
Sk8FalIen 9 months ago
@Sk8FalIen
You obviously didnt and Im not going to read it back to you. And fine, compare a ZR1 Vette to a Ford GT, ZR1 will spank it. Hell even the new Z06 would spank it
GAMER654 9 months ago
@GAMER654 Stock for stock? Depending on the driver, but if both are equil drivers and both have ideal conditions the new 4V 5.0 is faster than the F-body LS1. However Modded LS1 and Stock new 5.0 the LS wins. At least its american and not imported and riced out.
BDaily9 1 year ago
@GAMER654 yet there is no turbo or supercharger on this mustang wow any excuse to hate on a mustang
saleenxxx 1 year ago
@trevorpollo
By the way, yours makes little to no sense either. A bisexual redneck racist? ok then
GAMER654 1 year ago 2
@trevorpollo
ROFL, that was retarded. That makes even less sense than his
eLiT3SnIpEz 1 year ago 2
i dont think the guy in the fbody was even racing you.
jbreezy07 2 years ago
wildbloodydragon is right... but he is pulling the same fanboy bullshit lol. you can make either car fast retard. in the end the camaro will probably come out on top but who cares mustang is sexier and is still fast :P id take mustang over ugly rattly camaro anyday you fucking faggot ass fanboy
joshblacker1 2 years ago
they put DOHC heads in the ford marks, im a mechanic plus i lm a mustang fan and i think the modular engine are fucking joke thats why i have all my 3 stangs with 5.0 and 5.8
mexicario1047 2 years ago
opps forgot the the H in DOHC. Ok, well I knew they didn't in GT's. And the Cobra's weren't supercharged till 03'
keitham0518 2 years ago
but guess what beats them both? The LS1 which will beat any LT1 or 4.6 you put it up against
keitham0518 2 years ago
What mods? and an LT1 isn't all its cracked up to be. My bolt on 01 GT outruns some lt1s and runs even with others. But the GT in this vid screams.
nevermissclancom 2 years ago
4.6 engines make no bottom end power unless they are supercharged and have the DOC heads , and ford didn't put those on anything but cobras.
keitham0518 2 years ago
their both pretty sweet cars just be glad its American muscle and not pussy ricer shit!!
fuckingcadillac1 2 years ago 3
A lt1 has around 285 hp stock, the gt mustang only has around 225 stock, it wasnt till 2000 did they change something in the pistons or something to give it around 265, I really doubt the trans am was tryin or maybe the gt was just really modded who knows
masenkoboy 2 years ago
Trans am was trying, it just got beat. Pretty badly I'd say.
KingOfBattle119 2 years ago
however i know the formula could beat the gt. a v6 camaro will beat a gt, i've seen it. what's the secret? it's simple genuine GM muscle.
keitham0518 2 years ago
liar
veyronsstink 2 years ago
In fact I have a1998 Camaro Z28. It has full Hooker exaust, that's encluding shorty headers. A yank 3800 stall converter, and a computer tune, so pretty much a stock car except bolt ons and it runs 7.70's
keitham0518 2 years ago
You call that stock? LMAO.
TEAMLSX 2 years ago
Simple, genuine, and bankrupt GM muscle...still lost to a Mustang.
marlasue59 2 years ago
well either the guy couldn't drive or his car is sick cause mustangs are not that quick. GM is awesom, just because they're bankrupt doesen't mean they are not still a buisness, aleast the union is out of the way.
keitham0518 2 years ago
Simple, genuine, and fanboy Bullshit. Will always fall short when truth is told.
There are a billion possibilities to why a Formula that should have slapped that weakling little 225hp Mustang didn't do as well as expected. Doesn't change the fact that the stock Camaro and TA have always been and still are faster than Mustangs. Numbers don't lie, and if you're trying to rely on any evidence, maybe thats what you're looking for, not a random ass video on youtube.
wildbloodydragon 2 years ago
F-bodies weren't faster from 87-91 when they were still using the TPI motor, so you can't really say they've "always" been faster. Also The Boss 429 and old Cobra Jets would lay down some ass whoopings too.
srcej6 2 years ago
Granted, wouldn't you agree that F-Bodies have been, in most cases at least, faster than Mustangs?
wildbloodydragon 2 years ago
Oh I definately agree for the most part they have been. Some cases like when the 96-97 Cobras had the 4V and the f-body still used the LT1 the mustang was faster, but once 98 came around and the f-bodies got the LS1 they were pretty much untouchable stock vs stock.
I wish GM wouldn't have stopped f-body production right before the 03 cobra came out, I would have loved to have seen what they would have countered with.
srcej6 2 years ago
Yeah definitely, I really like how the F-Body's were light, good looking and rigid. Not exactly practical but the looks and speed made up for it very well.
I'm really looking forward to a non-retro design for the 6th generation Camaros.
wildbloodydragon 2 years ago
actually the 96-97 SS vs 96-97 cobra really came down to a drivers race. but i think ford put most of there time in the cobra. because why would anyone leave there best selling mustang at only 215hp for 4 years before finally bumping it up 10 hp.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
both win certain decades imo.
both great cars, it's all about personal build.
mark9021 2 years ago
F-body cars started in 93 bro and never has a TPI motor, lt1 then ls1. the 82-92 were 3rd gen cars.
z1kstunna 2 years ago
They term "f-body " has been around since camaro's and t/a's started production, they didn't "start in 93 bro".
srcej6 2 years ago
Very true...
DJSlurp1200 2 years ago
u seriously dont know what the hell your saying..82-92 were also f-bodies
mannyman84 2 years ago
No.
in '99 they changed it to 260-265 stock at the flywheel. 96-98 were NPI (non performance improved) motors, with weak flowing heads.
tbuck07 2 years ago
98' GT has 225HP
97' Firebird V6 has 200HP
That's probably what he was racing.
CJackson1984 2 years ago
u sure it was not a v6 ta
mitchellsealcoating 2 years ago
Yeah right that was good those lt1's have way more horses them a stang.
bcarbaugh 3 years ago