Whether you agreed with her or not, she was a strong leader who stood her ground. I know she was wrong over the poll tax, unemployment went too high in her first term, and sometimes she didn't know when to back off, but compared with what came after she was a far better leader. However, I still think she should have quit a few years earlier to avoid the poll tax fiasco.
I thought Argentina was only going to try to get its hands on the Falklands by peaceful means. Still, if you want to initiate another war, I'm sure the Typhoons we have down there will be more than happy to oblige. And I am sure that the Falkland Islands Defence Force will be more than happy to come out to defend their homes.
@Myles0Harcourt I was joking. Actually it's the UK goverment that desperately needs a new war. A new Falklands war would boost credibility and vanish any attempt from the Scots to secede from the Union.
Although opinion polls show that less than 50% of Scots want to secede, a new war would help to boost national pride. It would be a gamble. As long as we won it would be OK. If we somehow had a disaster and it went badly then more Scots would want to leave.
@Myles0Harcourt You just admitted a new war would be perfect to keep your imperialistic clutches in South America. Great. Unfortunately for you, Argentina woul
@111jasy111 I did not say anything of the sort. I said a successful war would be good for national pride. And if Scotland ever did secede, don't look to it as a sign that your colonial ambitions are any closer to fruition.
@Myles0Harcourt In the 21st century the UK still has 10 of 16 non-decolonized territories all over the world. The islands are on that list. They are the true remains of colonialism, like if we still exerted sovereignty of an island on the Sea of Japan or something.
@111jasy111 If it were colonialism we would be holding the islanders there against their will. Whilst I am aware that Jorge Arguello recently stated that we were "holding them hostage" there I can assure you that they are most anxious to remain under our protection. Colonialism is only such if youforce yourself upon the people against their will, and we gave that up long ago. Our arrangement with the islanders they can level where they wish. Our military there protects; it does not hold hostage.
@Myles0Harcourt The recovery of Malvinas by Argentina is as inevitable as the end of the anachronistic colonial forms which base English rule and governance there. It is becoming clearer to the world stage that these old structures represent a world that no longer exists, and the three thousand settlers living in the islands will have to find another way to interact with the world.
@Myles0Harcourt Argentina would never engage in a military conflict. Our armed forces are disbanded. Our people are against any war. Still the UK keeps trying to provoke us with missile testing and so on. We simply respond diplomatically. Almost 200 countries are already telling the UK to comply with TEN UN resolutions that state since 1965 that both sides should sit and talk as soon as possible. You won't be able to play deaf forever. This ain't the 19th century.
@111jasy111 How are the military exercises a provocation? The missiles are not being fired at Argentina and we are not preparing for invasion of Argentina. If you should invade the Islands then our defenses will have proved justified as necesssary for defence. Furthermore, I wonder what would happen if we reduced our defensive force to 1982 levels. I wonder if Argentina would stay so peaceful. Especially as the "disbanded" armed forces are apparently developing a nuclear submarine.
@111jasy111 Maybe Argentina should just shut up about it because it is a closed case and the Falkland Islanders are British by choice, therefore the Islands are British too. End of. What is there to bring up? You think it's fair to force the Falklanders to live under a regime they don't want to live under? You can't say we're being unfair in negotiations - there's nothing to fucking negotiate! You do not own the Falklands, now go away, and stop slavishly listening to your lying press.
@RichardElden Oh that's right, I remember the ten mile long dole queues, the hospitals closing, the schools closing, the factorys closing, everything being flogged off for a fast buck to artificially create the good times the few enjoyed and we're still paying. Our electricity is generated by the French, the yanks own the power lines, the French own our water, public transport is too expensive. Nice being saved, that's for sure.
P.S. You're a vile piece of work. You'll get yours.
@RichardElden Keep digging chap. You already look a total scumbag, just as well descend the whole way down below the gutter you've been wallowing in. Haven't you got anything intelligent to say? You reflect very badly upon the Conservative party.
I'm sure even the Tories here are wincing. But no amount of profanity will change things for you. Your "sit on my ass and pile up the dosh at the expense of people who do real work" bubble's burst and the only way for you now is down. Shame.
@freddo27 Ignore Mr Elden freddo, he's just annoyed becaue I rejected his advances. I told him I'm not gay, and he went off the rails.
Go out clubbing or something Richard. Or take another cruise like the one in your facebook picture, there's bound to be a man who takes your fancy. The trouble is with repressed homosexuality is it leads to moodswings and irrational outbursts like the one you're showing yourself up with now. Put your handbag down dear..
@RichardElden My father was a miner, I grew up in a council house, then I joined the army to go and fight to defend worthless lumps like you. That won't happen again. And I can tell you one miner worked harder in an hour than the likes of you do in a lifetime.
No wonder people hate the Conservatives. What a mouthpiece for them you are.
@RichardElden Oh shut up you fool, you're verifying everything they say about Tories being either rich or stupid or a combination of the two.. Is that what you want to do?
To think that if Labour didn't get their charismatic and exciting new leader Tony Blair, and if John Major had been more decisive and assertive, we might have had uninterrupted Tory rule from 1979 to now.
@RichardElden The "lazy cunts" are the few at the top of the food chain whose "benefits" are the tax money they had from us, and still get from us, to artificially buoy up the festering, corporate capitalist mess this bastard of a woman saddled this country with after destroying our industries and flogging all our assets for a fast buck, a few years of feelgood factor for a few. Her legacy is empty industial towns, people losing jobs and homes and a sky high council tax where once we had rates.
i thought as this has so many likes that it would be anti thatcherites on here, but how lovely it is to see the top comment 'I feel so bad for her-she was betrayed'. Long live Thatcher
Aw poor Margaret, she looks as she is about to break down into tears and I don't blame her. It must have been such a difficult and hard time for her, If I was there I would give her a hug so she could have a shoulder to cry on
Affecting her start when she's almost crying ( she loses a bit of her British self-control, but seems more" human"), stronger when she says "laaaaast time" (it's the moment in which her stress is in the highest level), and very very proud 2 say "eleven and half years", repeating it 2 times.Dear Auntie Maggie, we really need now someone like you here in italy,in spite of that clown called Berlusconi.Unfortunately you've born in U.k. and not here, so you ruled there and we are in a shit-sea!!!!
@RichardElden l could not help having a look at your profile , Tell me ...are you a typical Tory voter ? . You claim in another post that you helped smash the miners by voting Tory, you also claim that the miners ...and everyone else it seems ...are lazy good for nothings who want nothing but benifits . For a 19 year old you seem to know a lot about life and its struggles and troubles ...in reality you know very little ....but you are still very young and have lots of time to learn .
It saddens me when people write these absolutely apalling comments about her. People must understand that she was prime minister but she also had a cabinet, who were absolutely influential in some of her actions. She is 85 and recieves so much hatred, I appeal to those who feel so hostile towards her, please let her be.
@Heylen94 lt may seem sad that an 85 year old ex prime minister can still generate such hate so long after her departure from politics , but you must understand the social effect that many of her poilicies had on a large section of the public , social effects that still linger today , so long after she was ousted as leader by her own party . Hate and poverty , unfortunately ,are the only lagacy's she left for those who suffered under her leadership . Hate is all they have
Great lady,to those who mock she has bigger balls than most of you ,at least she stood tall against everything she ever did and said,maybe it wasnt always the right descision but she had the courage of her conviction.
Looking back now you will probably find that most of the UK would AGREE with her stance on Europe. As for the Poll Tax.... The idea of everyone paying "something" for services that are used by everyone is not exactly unfair. Her downfall was designing a system where a pensioner in an area paid the same as a mansion holder. If everybody's contributions were more "relative" then it might have worked and also encouraged those who previously paid nowt to take more of an interest how money is spent!
I was only a weee child when Mrs Thatcher was replaced by John Major... Mum and Dad never told me what happened. Was it nasty or did she resign like Tony Blair did? It's about time I was educated about what exactly happened. Thanks... Philip
@PhilipK100 The public and her party (Tories) seemed to be getting bored of her, after 11 and a half years as PM. There are reports that as time went on, she listened to her advisers more than her MPs.
In 1986, during the Westland affair, a scandal about who Westland, the helicopter manufacturer, was going to be sold to, Margaret and her Defence Secretary, Michael Heseltine, clashed quite badly, and he resigned. In 1989, another MP launched a leadership challenge which she won . . .
@PhilipK100 She won the 1989 leadership challenge launched by another Tory, Sir Anthony Meyer, but there were a large number of MPs who decided not to vote for her.
Seeing this, Heseltine grabbed his chance to get his own back on her. Just over a year later, when he thought the time was right, he launched a leadership challenge. Thatcher had the most votes but didn't win an overall majority, she decided not to contest the second round of voting and chose to resign
@PhilipK100 Finally, Major had the most votes in the second (and I think third) ballots, but on the last, didn't receive an overall majority, but was declared the winner, Tory leader and PM after the other contenders retracted their leadership bids.
As much as I hate Margaret Thatcher's politics, I think it's outrageous and also vastly ironic that she was forced to step down over the one issue many left wingers like me actually agree with her on, i.e. being tougher on the Europeans.
@Skabur123 Unlike the US, prime minister terms are unlimited, but the length of time between general elections is limited to being no more than 5 years. Most elections are held every 4 or 5 years.
No she was'nt a great ......she turned on the people of Britain,, and started to smash our culture...she used, the police and the army to do it too. and she laid down the politics of rip off Britain.... No? the banks ripped every one off,,,,and the goverment are taking money off you instead of taking it off the banks,,,,
There's so much shit coming from the mp's these days, it's hard to tell which arsehole it's coming from... and you can keep your right wing views and shove em. LET THE COW DIE
I am a poorly educated humble Japanese so I know very little about British politics.
Can someone tell me why Mrs Thatcher with so much talent and intellect did not see the point put forth by one MP who allegedly said "the poll tax makes an OAP pay as much as a duke" .
I would have thought that Mrs T would have realised the folly of making everyone pay the same on absolute terms. "Fairness" should be based on individual circumstances.
In 1983 she did win a landslide but got less votes than in 1979 just because of the Falklands,a short,near bloodless war over land not worth very much by any measure except symbolically and the breakaway of the social democrats from Labour which hopelessly split the opposition's vote. She won a 3rd time but you can't overturn a landslide in one election so really there was little substance to back up her victories.
Wonderful lady, sorely missed even today. She had a wonderful career, albeit a controversial one, and she never let any Socialist get the better of her. Never has, never will, a true legend of British politics.
smashed the unions, fucked the nhs, no minimum wage, massive unemployment but people kept voting her and major in because the sun and daily mail etc told them to. The thick bastards should go to countries like france and learn a few things about solidarity.
MewHamHead heres a question are you fucking retarded or just completly mad in the head. Maggie was a terrible lady who brought pain in N.Ireland and didnt care about here actions she was a greedy bitch and i cant wait till she dies.
@EuphoriaDimension Interestingly, she would only have been required to soften her stance on Europe because of her own party (the majority of which were still pro-EU at that time) - the electorate overwhelmingly had no problem at all with her increasingly Euroskeptic stance. The poll tax was a grave political error and it was that which allowed her enemies within the Tories to move against her. If she'd run for a 4th term, would she have got it? I don't think it's as unlikely as many suggest.
@UnitedBritannia : I agree, she could have run and won that 4th term. My grandmother has always voted Conservative, and after they "betrayed" Maggie like that, she has refused to vote and even in 2010 she did not vote. It go's to show the damage those stupid morons done to the party by betraying Thatcher like that. Yes she did have her faults, but is there anyone on the planet who is blameless?
The greatest day in british history. Our country had a chance to be liberated from the greed culture. It's a shame we got stuck with a slightly more moderate thatcherite called Tony.
a fascist horrible women.who destroyed hundreds of hard working families. she makes me ashamed too be english.250 dead soldiers blood is on her hands ,all for her ego .she can not die soon enough for thousands and thousands of people .it will be one massive celebration in my area ;and many many more.
can someone explain why people are so hostile towards Thatcher? What did she actually do that's so appalling and earned her the hatred among people? I have no idea, all I hear are people calling her a bitch but cannot give sensible reasons...
@triadchixD Yeah, she pretended to be a human being in order to gain power then threw off her disguise and revealed she was a despotic machiavellian tyrant with a cold blooded and cruel determination to destroy the dignity and pride of millions of decent people ; perceiving them to be spoiled and 'punishing' them for 'daring' to want half decent standards of living . She thought that people's lives were expendable ; a justifiable sacrifice to reinstate 19th Century economic principles
what's wrong with Maggie Thatcher? most of my friends dislike her and when I ask why all they say is she made people buy council homes...or something along those lines...The British Government doesn't seem to be representing the British peeps...
One of these days....the people who despise Thatcher will wake up and realise that what she did to the Trade Unions was the best of Britain and as a whole we benefit from politicians, not unaccountable Trade Union Leaders running the country
This scene always makes me cry, integrity, perseverance,understanding,modesty, these are all chareteristics of this great unceasing woman.I hope she is rewarded with the respect she deserves, she is a wonderful and beautiful woman and she will inspire me and generations for many years to come.
The Bilderbergers got rid of her and she knew it. Her friends always maintained there was a conspiracy against her after she turned against the EU. No doubt bilderberger Ken Clarke along with his globalist cronies was in the thick of it.
@bluesboy25000 Kind of. Reagan was more unifying though.
Thatcher was more like George Bush II, in the sense of dividing the nation & being very ideological (although she was markedly more successful & less wasteful).
Reagan compares better, I think, with Tony Blair. Both were to the right of their respective parties, were gifted orators & ran their respective countries smoothly, but with fiscal sloppiness...
@tdp1909 Thank you very much. I have just been keeping up with this past election you guys had and I am trying to understand it more because you guys are the only people who really stand by us now. Looks like I got some homework to do. And I doubt anyone could ever be worse than George W.
@uummmdonuts1 I could say the same about every Labour prime minister we've ever had in this country. They have all led governments that have left us less prosperous, weaker, less self-confident and more divided than when they came to power. Never forget that every single Labour govt. in the post-war period has left office with the country facing higher unemployment, higher taxation and massive deficits. The record of history is crystal clear.
Ah but that comment is particularly irrelevant due to the fact that I never said labour prime ministers were any better. Dearest. In Thatcher's Britain there was the obvious mass unemployment, but there was also the mass homphobia, a police force under Thatcher that had the time to randomly run pub and bar checks but refused to investigate a very serious arsen attack on a gay newspaper... their reason: they were too busy.
@uummmdonuts1 The idea that people of this tolerant and open-minded nation (an aspect of Britain I'm personally very proud of) turned into a bunch of homophobes under Thatcher, or any other political leader, is total nonsense. That is what you are suggesting by saying "mass homophobia" - do you really think so little of the British people? I disagree entirely with Section 28, but you are spectacularly overplaying your hand by suggesting that homophobia swept the streets of Britain because of it.
@UnitedBritannia No, I'm not saying that, I'm saying it was present in a large way as an action, and a police force that does that kind of thing disgusts me. Are the police not set targets by the government, is that not a key part of the home office, policing the police force? If they were doing their jobs instances such as the above mentioned would have been stopped by the government. I would say more, but I have run out of characters.
@uummmdonuts1 You're used to the target-setting agenda of the previous Labour govt. - targets were far less frequent, and much less prioritised within the Thatcher govt. The Home Office are responsible for creating the legal frameworks within which the police operate - but I think you're confused - it does not, and never has, instruct the police about what actions it should take on a day-to-day basis. The decision you have a problem with was taken by a senior police officer and not a politician.
@UnitedBritannia and we are tolerant and open-minded, but we still had very backward legislation regarding equality until the past labour government. I'm not a supporter of theirs, but credit where it's due.
@uummmdonuts1 As for the comment about the police force - their actions are not controlled by the Prime Minister or any other political office. We have a separation of powers in this country between elected politicians and the police force. Would you rather we didn't, and had a politicized police force as another extension of government power? Historically this has not been an agreeable set-up, I hope you'll agree. Your example has no relevance whatsoever to Thatcher or her policies.
@uummmdonuts1 You also had the unions bought to her knees. Under Thatcher's reign, we'd have no strikes and having to bow to pressure of tube drivers, train drivers and people who demand more and more in a time where we need to spend less and less. Our economy wouldn't be in the state it was in, either. I disagree with the majority of the things you've reported. The police don't take order directly from Thatcher, do they? You don't call the PM to sort out a burglary!!
@UnitedBritannia Clement Attlee's administration was the best in the post war Britain. He helped millions of people and improved our welfare state.
As for new labour... we have a lower national debt than Germany, France, Italy, Japan and the USA. Of COURSE Labour made mistakes, but blaming them for the current crisis takes a lot of stupidity. Don't see how they left us less self confident. What you said is a lie. Not caused by the Labour governments, simply by the circumstances.
@uummmdonuts1 Simple answer...because she brought strong leadership and a sence of direction at a time when Britain was decending into anarchy and chaos.
@punkrockcol23 PLeae get your facts right. Exploted the poor as in improved their lives? Yes unemplyment rose, but income tax for the very poorest dropped. If she was so bad to the poor how did she win 3 elections. drop income tax by 1% for the top and bottom rates and the rich will benefit more. Thats just the way it is. She gave everyone tax breaks. Not just the poor or the rich
How this woman can have the gall to stand there are say that the past elevent years had been "wonderfully happy" I have no idea! Her policies left millions unemployed. Her privatisation of major industries is STILL making people unemployed to this day. I know that many will argue that she did what was necessary in the short term to gain long term stability, but in the meantime, the 80s was a miserable decade for millions. She's got some nerves to declare it 'wonderful'.
@fantastischfish Well if you look at the labour government before her, the her 11 years were heaven. There wasnt a 3 day working week. There wasn't rubbish piling up in the streets, there wasn't bodiess piling up in morgues because gravediggers were ons trike. Income tax wasn't sky high (80% at top rate). She gave the country the bad tasting medicine it needed. NO1 would do that nowadays. She had more balls than any man in politics. Irony for ya
People talk about the decline of politics in this country - and it's because after Thatcher, we haven't had any politicians prepared to stand up for what they believe in, to fight for their convictions and engage in the battle of ideas that all vibrant democracies rely on.
From Major onwards, the only thing our leading politicians have cared about is remaining popular and clinging on to their precious "center ground". It has left them (and us) in a terrible trap.
@WeaselKing1000 she still belived in the family, she still believed in conformity and as it says on the back of my membership card, there is such a thing as society its just not the same as the state
I shed tears when I think of the day Thatcher resigned... tears of laughter! People said when she wept that it showed that she was human... I replied "Her tears were for herself, nobody else... she didn't shed any tears for the miners, steelworkers, millworkers and others at the bottom did she?".
@Kevinasp what codswollop, the miners were better off because of the payments they got and the jobs that came after, industrty was on its knees anyway and if it wasnt for monetarism probably would have closed ten years earlier anyway, both richer and poorer benefitted under thatcher and the economy was left wealthy until new labour decided to ruin it
@obamadestiny is that why the pits colsed down here in yorkshire and people had no job? you should try telling my grandad and uncles that they were better off under Thatcher, I think they would have other ideas. HOW DARE YOU try and suggest she made life better for miners. The industry was perfectly robust before that deluded woman got into Number 10.
@TCX749 The mining industry in britiain was in a sincear decline, globalisationm and modernisation of an electrical industry mean that thatcher had to make a choice, invest into a industry that would not sustain due to the competition, or not , your pass at me ("how dare you") is one that i have heard before, but one thing i know is that the economy was secure under thatcher weather you like it or not, just like i can admit the economy was secure under some labour leaders,
@TCX749 I tell you something - have you tried typing 'Orgreave (South Yorkshire)' (central event of the Miner's strike) into a Satnav or looking it up on a map?
I went there the other day & it was like it had never even existed...
Whether you agreed with her or not, she was a strong leader who stood her ground. I know she was wrong over the poll tax, unemployment went too high in her first term, and sometimes she didn't know when to back off, but compared with what came after she was a far better leader. However, I still think she should have quit a few years earlier to avoid the poll tax fiasco.
Glenn1967ful 19 hours ago
bitch make me a sandwich.
alexthomsonuk 2 weeks ago
CHEERIO CHEERIO CHEERIO!
TheCoon2000 2 weeks ago
Pity this video doesn't have the clip of the old hag crying over her car.
MossbridgeEcho 3 weeks ago
We need a new Falklands war!
111jasy111 2 months ago
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I thought Argentina was only going to try to get its hands on the Falklands by peaceful means. Still, if you want to initiate another war, I'm sure the Typhoons we have down there will be more than happy to oblige. And I am sure that the Falkland Islands Defence Force will be more than happy to come out to defend their homes.
Myles0Harcourt 1 month ago
@Myles0Harcourt I was joking. Actually it's the UK goverment that desperately needs a new war. A new Falklands war would boost credibility and vanish any attempt from the Scots to secede from the Union.
111jasy111 2 weeks ago
@111jasy111
Although opinion polls show that less than 50% of Scots want to secede, a new war would help to boost national pride. It would be a gamble. As long as we won it would be OK. If we somehow had a disaster and it went badly then more Scots would want to leave.
Myles0Harcourt 2 weeks ago
@Myles0Harcourt You just admitted a new war would be perfect to keep your imperialistic clutches in South America. Great. Unfortunately for you, Argentina woul
111jasy111 2 weeks ago
@111jasy111 I did not say anything of the sort. I said a successful war would be good for national pride. And if Scotland ever did secede, don't look to it as a sign that your colonial ambitions are any closer to fruition.
Myles0Harcourt 2 weeks ago
@Myles0Harcourt In the 21st century the UK still has 10 of 16 non-decolonized territories all over the world. The islands are on that list. They are the true remains of colonialism, like if we still exerted sovereignty of an island on the Sea of Japan or something.
111jasy111 1 week ago
@111jasy111 If it were colonialism we would be holding the islanders there against their will. Whilst I am aware that Jorge Arguello recently stated that we were "holding them hostage" there I can assure you that they are most anxious to remain under our protection. Colonialism is only such if youforce yourself upon the people against their will, and we gave that up long ago. Our arrangement with the islanders they can level where they wish. Our military there protects; it does not hold hostage.
Myles0Harcourt 1 week ago
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@Myles0Harcourt The recovery of Malvinas by Argentina is as inevitable as the end of the anachronistic colonial forms which base English rule and governance there. It is becoming clearer to the world stage that these old structures represent a world that no longer exists, and the three thousand settlers living in the islands will have to find another way to interact with the world.
111jasy111 1 week ago
@Myles0Harcourt Argentina would never engage in a military conflict. Our armed forces are disbanded. Our people are against any war. Still the UK keeps trying to provoke us with missile testing and so on. We simply respond diplomatically. Almost 200 countries are already telling the UK to comply with TEN UN resolutions that state since 1965 that both sides should sit and talk as soon as possible. You won't be able to play deaf forever. This ain't the 19th century.
111jasy111 2 weeks ago
@111jasy111 How are the military exercises a provocation? The missiles are not being fired at Argentina and we are not preparing for invasion of Argentina. If you should invade the Islands then our defenses will have proved justified as necesssary for defence. Furthermore, I wonder what would happen if we reduced our defensive force to 1982 levels. I wonder if Argentina would stay so peaceful. Especially as the "disbanded" armed forces are apparently developing a nuclear submarine.
Myles0Harcourt 2 weeks ago
@111jasy111 Maybe Argentina should just shut up about it because it is a closed case and the Falkland Islanders are British by choice, therefore the Islands are British too. End of. What is there to bring up? You think it's fair to force the Falklanders to live under a regime they don't want to live under? You can't say we're being unfair in negotiations - there's nothing to fucking negotiate! You do not own the Falklands, now go away, and stop slavishly listening to your lying press.
Reunakk 1 week ago
You can only truly value what you had when it's gone. There must be another Maggie Thatcher out there. Come on girl...your country needs you
steve998 2 months ago
once again it proves that she's correct on stopping UK from joining the common currency.
jamesloch 2 months ago
We need someone like her now!
JamesB767 2 months ago
@JamesB767
I second that.
Myles0Harcourt 1 month ago
@RichardElden Oh that's right, I remember the ten mile long dole queues, the hospitals closing, the schools closing, the factorys closing, everything being flogged off for a fast buck to artificially create the good times the few enjoyed and we're still paying. Our electricity is generated by the French, the yanks own the power lines, the French own our water, public transport is too expensive. Nice being saved, that's for sure.
P.S. You're a vile piece of work. You'll get yours.
roogalater 2 months ago
@RichardElden and 79 and 83 and 87.
roogalater 2 months ago
@RichardElden Keep digging chap. You already look a total scumbag, just as well descend the whole way down below the gutter you've been wallowing in. Haven't you got anything intelligent to say? You reflect very badly upon the Conservative party.
I'm sure even the Tories here are wincing. But no amount of profanity will change things for you. Your "sit on my ass and pile up the dosh at the expense of people who do real work" bubble's burst and the only way for you now is down. Shame.
freddo27 2 months ago
@freddo27 Ignore Mr Elden freddo, he's just annoyed becaue I rejected his advances. I told him I'm not gay, and he went off the rails.
Go out clubbing or something Richard. Or take another cruise like the one in your facebook picture, there's bound to be a man who takes your fancy. The trouble is with repressed homosexuality is it leads to moodswings and irrational outbursts like the one you're showing yourself up with now. Put your handbag down dear..
bolloxinator 2 months ago
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freddo27 2 months ago
@RichardElden My father was a miner, I grew up in a council house, then I joined the army to go and fight to defend worthless lumps like you. That won't happen again. And I can tell you one miner worked harder in an hour than the likes of you do in a lifetime.
No wonder people hate the Conservatives. What a mouthpiece for them you are.
freddo27 2 months ago
@RichardElden Oh shut up you fool, you're verifying everything they say about Tories being either rich or stupid or a combination of the two.. Is that what you want to do?
roogalater 2 months ago
To think that if Labour didn't get their charismatic and exciting new leader Tony Blair, and if John Major had been more decisive and assertive, we might have had uninterrupted Tory rule from 1979 to now.
Things could have been *very* different.
UK31337 2 months ago
@RichardElden The "lazy cunts" are the few at the top of the food chain whose "benefits" are the tax money they had from us, and still get from us, to artificially buoy up the festering, corporate capitalist mess this bastard of a woman saddled this country with after destroying our industries and flogging all our assets for a fast buck, a few years of feelgood factor for a few. Her legacy is empty industial towns, people losing jobs and homes and a sky high council tax where once we had rates.
bolloxinator 2 months ago
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i thought as this has so many likes that it would be anti thatcherites on here, but how lovely it is to see the top comment 'I feel so bad for her-she was betrayed'. Long live Thatcher
Pringles352 3 months ago
Long live Lady Thatcher.
Myles0Harcourt 3 months ago 25
Aw poor Margaret, she looks as she is about to break down into tears and I don't blame her. It must have been such a difficult and hard time for her, If I was there I would give her a hug so she could have a shoulder to cry on
LadyThatcher15 3 months ago
Affecting her start when she's almost crying ( she loses a bit of her British self-control, but seems more" human"), stronger when she says "laaaaast time" (it's the moment in which her stress is in the highest level), and very very proud 2 say "eleven and half years", repeating it 2 times.Dear Auntie Maggie, we really need now someone like you here in italy,in spite of that clown called Berlusconi.Unfortunately you've born in U.k. and not here, so you ruled there and we are in a shit-sea!!!!
MegaApple75 4 months ago
When is this getting a restored DVD release ??. It's a fuckin' masterpiece
TheKenfig 4 months ago
@RichardElden l could not help having a look at your profile , Tell me ...are you a typical Tory voter ? . You claim in another post that you helped smash the miners by voting Tory, you also claim that the miners ...and everyone else it seems ...are lazy good for nothings who want nothing but benifits . For a 19 year old you seem to know a lot about life and its struggles and troubles ...in reality you know very little ....but you are still very young and have lots of time to learn .
alunhughes147 4 months ago
It saddens me when people write these absolutely apalling comments about her. People must understand that she was prime minister but she also had a cabinet, who were absolutely influential in some of her actions. She is 85 and recieves so much hatred, I appeal to those who feel so hostile towards her, please let her be.
Heylen94 5 months ago
@Heylen94 lt may seem sad that an 85 year old ex prime minister can still generate such hate so long after her departure from politics , but you must understand the social effect that many of her poilicies had on a large section of the public , social effects that still linger today , so long after she was ousted as leader by her own party . Hate and poverty , unfortunately ,are the only lagacy's she left for those who suffered under her leadership . Hate is all they have
alunhughes147 4 months ago
Oh how wrong she was about Major.
Some luck she wished him . . .
AidanLunn 5 months ago
Great lady,to those who mock she has bigger balls than most of you ,at least she stood tall against everything she ever did and said,maybe it wasnt always the right descision but she had the courage of her conviction.
MrT9alizee 5 months ago
0:03 "WE'RE leaving Downing street..." there she goes again using the royal "WE" ! completely potty!!☺
MarkB1ngham 5 months ago
@MarkB1ngham I think she means her and Dennis.
AidanLunn 5 months ago
@AidanLunn don't you mean Denis?
MarkB1ngham 5 months ago
@MarkB1ngham Oh, I thought it was double "N"?
AidanLunn 5 months ago
Forever etched in decent minds and known by all who care,
In earthly slumber all will see your evil soul laid bare,
Above your head in leafs of gold, in trappings of the rich,
These words for all the world to see, “Goodbye You Evil Bitch”
rabt1952 5 months ago
@rabt1952 excellent......and sadly so true,,,,,l really enjoyed reading it......thanks
alunhughes147 4 months ago
Many still speak of you and the day that will arrive,
When souls are healed and hearts renewed and good again will thrive,
These lands will rise in glory on the day that you pass on,
The poor, the weak, will know and praise the day that you are gone.
rabt1952 5 months ago
“The enemy within” you cried these noble working men,
Determined to destroy and wreck their families, lives and friends,
Miners! yes remember them? the ones you crucified,
Will always hold within their hearts the day on which you die.
rabt1952 5 months ago
Wonderful Day (Of Maggie Thatcher)
A plague of rats upon you, may you rot and live in hell,
No words on earth describe you or the evil that you sell,
Hatred was the sermon preached as you cursed the working class,
I curse you back a thousand-fold spawn of Satan’s arse
rabt1952 5 months ago
Bye, you old fucking witch!!!
Good riddance.
phillper0906 5 months ago
Looking back now you will probably find that most of the UK would AGREE with her stance on Europe. As for the Poll Tax.... The idea of everyone paying "something" for services that are used by everyone is not exactly unfair. Her downfall was designing a system where a pensioner in an area paid the same as a mansion holder. If everybody's contributions were more "relative" then it might have worked and also encouraged those who previously paid nowt to take more of an interest how money is spent!
FishOnTwoWheels 5 months ago
When I feel down this always cheers me up
sonofcy 5 months ago
I was only a weee child when Mrs Thatcher was replaced by John Major... Mum and Dad never told me what happened. Was it nasty or did she resign like Tony Blair did? It's about time I was educated about what exactly happened. Thanks... Philip
PhilipK100 6 months ago
@PhilipK100 The public and her party (Tories) seemed to be getting bored of her, after 11 and a half years as PM. There are reports that as time went on, she listened to her advisers more than her MPs.
In 1986, during the Westland affair, a scandal about who Westland, the helicopter manufacturer, was going to be sold to, Margaret and her Defence Secretary, Michael Heseltine, clashed quite badly, and he resigned. In 1989, another MP launched a leadership challenge which she won . . .
AidanLunn 5 months ago
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AidanLunn 5 months ago
@PhilipK100 She won the 1989 leadership challenge launched by another Tory, Sir Anthony Meyer, but there were a large number of MPs who decided not to vote for her.
Seeing this, Heseltine grabbed his chance to get his own back on her. Just over a year later, when he thought the time was right, he launched a leadership challenge. Thatcher had the most votes but didn't win an overall majority, she decided not to contest the second round of voting and chose to resign
AidanLunn 5 months ago
@PhilipK100 Finally, Major had the most votes in the second (and I think third) ballots, but on the last, didn't receive an overall majority, but was declared the winner, Tory leader and PM after the other contenders retracted their leadership bids.
AidanLunn 5 months ago
As much as I hate Margaret Thatcher's politics, I think it's outrageous and also vastly ironic that she was forced to step down over the one issue many left wingers like me actually agree with her on, i.e. being tougher on the Europeans.
spackhollogay 6 months ago
she will go down in History as one of the Greats, my only regret is that i wish i could have met her , long LIVE MAGGIE.
guruclock 6 months ago
She served 11 and a half years!? Thats a bit more than our 8 year max, if they can get that for president.
Skabur123 7 months ago
@Skabur123 Unlike the US, prime minister terms are unlimited, but the length of time between general elections is limited to being no more than 5 years. Most elections are held every 4 or 5 years.
AidanLunn 5 months ago
@AidanLunn Oh, did not know that. Thanks a lot.
Skabur123 5 months ago
Does she have a lisp? I'm American, sorry. Sounds like she does.
Insanekid95 7 months ago
boohoo☺ Maggie maggie maggie gone gone gone!
I was paying rates in my rent, why oh why was the £1000 polltax stolen from me NOT refunded?)
MarkB1ngham 7 months ago
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phillper0906 5 months ago
@phillper0906 you don't get it do you?I was paying my rates in my rent so I was being taxed effin twice!
MarkB1ngham 5 months ago
The end of the UK's worse PM. Happy years my arse!
Xanaseb 7 months ago
0:30 May I say a word of thanks to all the flowers..... hahahaha
FlyOceanicAir 7 months ago
legend :)
megafrasers1 8 months ago
Thank you for everything Maggie. And a well earned state funeral when you finally pass away.
Conservative1992 8 months ago
Stupid bitch got what she had coming.
LadyBeaverhausen 8 months ago
No she was'nt a great ......she turned on the people of Britain,, and started to smash our culture...she used, the police and the army to do it too. and she laid down the politics of rip off Britain.... No? the banks ripped every one off,,,,and the goverment are taking money off you instead of taking it off the banks,,,,
There's so much shit coming from the mp's these days, it's hard to tell which arsehole it's coming from... and you can keep your right wing views and shove em. LET THE COW DIE
gotmihandstuck 8 months ago
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aeronuk1 8 months ago
@aeronuk1 go read a book
gotmihandstuck 8 months ago
I feel so bad for her-she was betrayed.
HalfBornUnicornFetus 9 months ago 36
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mainly cos she absolutely no respect for collective cabinet sovereignity- a british tradition. deservedly ousted
jaishalattacks 4 months ago
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aeronuk1 4 months ago
Best thing she did was to show the world, you dont mess with us brits (Falklands)
Urko2005 9 months ago 2
I am a poorly educated humble Japanese so I know very little about British politics.
Can someone tell me why Mrs Thatcher with so much talent and intellect did not see the point put forth by one MP who allegedly said "the poll tax makes an OAP pay as much as a duke" .
I would have thought that Mrs T would have realised the folly of making everyone pay the same on absolute terms. "Fairness" should be based on individual circumstances.
tnakai1971jp 9 months ago
@tnakai1971jp
She was overconfident.
In 1983 she did win a landslide but got less votes than in 1979 just because of the Falklands,a short,near bloodless war over land not worth very much by any measure except symbolically and the breakaway of the social democrats from Labour which hopelessly split the opposition's vote. She won a 3rd time but you can't overturn a landslide in one election so really there was little substance to back up her victories.
SiorafasNaCillini 8 months ago
Good riddance.
gifto18 9 months ago
Britain better place? all out industry has gone and the country is suffering because of you, useless bint when Maggy stepped in the rot set in.
tnewton1988 10 months ago
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aeronuk1 9 months ago
Yup every coal miner has her portrait hanging up there on the wall next to the Queen. Well loved. NOTTTT
grandadpoppyable 10 months ago
the power went to her head,she was a magalomaniac in the end...and always a bully....
tkshots 10 months ago
hateful woman
toyno1 10 months ago
Wonderful lady, sorely missed even today. She had a wonderful career, albeit a controversial one, and she never let any Socialist get the better of her. Never has, never will, a true legend of British politics.
Maddy4Me 10 months ago
smashed the unions, fucked the nhs, no minimum wage, massive unemployment but people kept voting her and major in because the sun and daily mail etc told them to. The thick bastards should go to countries like france and learn a few things about solidarity.
amondoem 11 months ago
Go on fuck off.
BackFromNowere 11 months ago
MewHamHead heres a question are you fucking retarded or just completly mad in the head. Maggie was a terrible lady who brought pain in N.Ireland and didnt care about here actions she was a greedy bitch and i cant wait till she dies.
eamon4800 11 months ago
She could have ran for a 4th General Election if [a] she softened her tone on Europe [2] she didn't go ahead with the Poll Tax..
EuphoriaDimension 11 months ago
@EuphoriaDimension Interestingly, she would only have been required to soften her stance on Europe because of her own party (the majority of which were still pro-EU at that time) - the electorate overwhelmingly had no problem at all with her increasingly Euroskeptic stance. The poll tax was a grave political error and it was that which allowed her enemies within the Tories to move against her. If she'd run for a 4th term, would she have got it? I don't think it's as unlikely as many suggest.
UnitedBritannia 11 months ago 7
@UnitedBritannia : I agree, she could have run and won that 4th term. My grandmother has always voted Conservative, and after they "betrayed" Maggie like that, she has refused to vote and even in 2010 she did not vote. It go's to show the damage those stupid morons done to the party by betraying Thatcher like that. Yes she did have her faults, but is there anyone on the planet who is blameless?
EuphoriaDimension 11 months ago
Thatcher was great.
Calbenmike 11 months ago
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piss on her grave
philipbebb 11 months ago
Wonderful moment for anyone with a brain
pipstr 11 months ago
God bless thatcher
MrWcavendish 1 year ago
she is my favorite British politician since Queen Elisabeth the first
Kosta88Pop 1 year ago
@Kosta88Pop yeah cos queen elizabeth the first was a politician. also, you would remember her vividly. also also, prepare for battle tory scum
hardakgd01 10 months ago
@hardakgd01 I am not Tory. In fact, I'm a liberal. But I deeply respect lady Thatcher. She made UK a better place.
Kosta88Pop 10 months ago
God bless you maggie
guruclock 1 year ago
cant wait til she dies
westrat2 1 year ago
Also, she tried to rape my father in a public toilet
kenfig 1 year ago
The greatest day in british history. Our country had a chance to be liberated from the greed culture. It's a shame we got stuck with a slightly more moderate thatcherite called Tony.
kaiserofalbion 1 year ago
@kaiserofalbion One of the VERY best days of my life
kenfig 1 year ago
@kenfig I am sad i was not alive to see it. But grateful that i didn't live during her time in office.
kaiserofalbion 1 year ago
@kaiserofalbion You lucky devil !! ; this dick in office now though will make many feel Deja Vu !
kenfig 1 year ago
A great day this was when this bloody woman left Dowing Street and the country in a bad way
abhudson14 1 year ago
Terrible news about Margaret Tatcher isnt it? The Bitch is still alive, oh well that means theres still enough time for her to be assassinated
brookvr 1 year ago
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jasonfkg 1 year ago
a fascist horrible women.who destroyed hundreds of hard working families. she makes me ashamed too be english.250 dead soldiers blood is on her hands ,all for her ego .she can not die soon enough for thousands and thousands of people .it will be one massive celebration in my area ;and many many more.
erictheviking871 1 year ago
can someone explain why people are so hostile towards Thatcher? What did she actually do that's so appalling and earned her the hatred among people? I have no idea, all I hear are people calling her a bitch but cannot give sensible reasons...
triadchixD 1 year ago
@triadchixD Yeah, she pretended to be a human being in order to gain power then threw off her disguise and revealed she was a despotic machiavellian tyrant with a cold blooded and cruel determination to destroy the dignity and pride of millions of decent people ; perceiving them to be spoiled and 'punishing' them for 'daring' to want half decent standards of living . She thought that people's lives were expendable ; a justifiable sacrifice to reinstate 19th Century economic principles
kenfig 1 year ago
i hope you like it in hell maggie when you arrive you FUCKING CUNT.
2011magic 1 year ago
what's wrong with Maggie Thatcher? most of my friends dislike her and when I ask why all they say is she made people buy council homes...or something along those lines...The British Government doesn't seem to be representing the British peeps...
originalflamingo 1 year ago
@originalflamingo because she was a typical Tory...sensible on an economic level but a fucking disaster at a social level.
rch51 1 year ago
dumb bitch, not only did she fuck up the country post 1988, but she fucked the conservative party from the back benches from 1988-2001
harj2009 1 year ago
where is her leaving speech - the one she made on the day she resigned....- when she addressed the house - do you have it?
winiver77 1 year ago
where is her leaving speech - the one she made on the day she resigned.... do you have it?
winiver77 1 year ago
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Twilleh 1 year ago
Poor Maggie.
SkullOfYorick 1 year ago
One of the greatest days ever in the history of our country!
NorthernBoy2010 1 year ago 2
old bitch
JonnyH456 1 year ago 2
One of these days....the people who despise Thatcher will wake up and realise that what she did to the Trade Unions was the best of Britain and as a whole we benefit from politicians, not unaccountable Trade Union Leaders running the country
donnybez 1 year ago
A bad day for Britain. The way in which her back was stabbed by her Europhile 'friends' was disgusting.
Dendiol 1 year ago
when is Margaret Thatcher going to die?
brookvr 1 year ago 2
get that bitch out faster!!! before she fucks the NHS up more
supermorshu 1 year ago
hahahhahahaha i hope she dies a painful death
freshprinceofbalham 1 year ago
We need Lady Thatcher back to sort out more Labour mess,
Dendiol 1 year ago
This scene always makes me cry, integrity, perseverance,understanding,modesty, these are all chareteristics of this great unceasing woman.I hope she is rewarded with the respect she deserves, she is a wonderful and beautiful woman and she will inspire me and generations for many years to come.
Heylen94 1 year ago
when she dies, i will cry
Oneandoneself 1 year ago
The Bilderbergers got rid of her and she knew it. Her friends always maintained there was a conspiracy against her after she turned against the EU. No doubt bilderberger Ken Clarke along with his globalist cronies was in the thick of it.
aeronuk1 1 year ago
A great day for British Politics.
magneticpickup 1 year ago
As an American working to try and understand British Politics, I am curious, is Thatcher your guy's Reagan?
bluesboy25000 1 year ago
@bluesboy25000 Kind of. Reagan was more unifying though.
Thatcher was more like George Bush II, in the sense of dividing the nation & being very ideological (although she was markedly more successful & less wasteful).
Reagan compares better, I think, with Tony Blair. Both were to the right of their respective parties, were gifted orators & ran their respective countries smoothly, but with fiscal sloppiness...
Hope that helps! :-)
tdp1909 1 year ago
@tdp1909 Thank you very much. I have just been keeping up with this past election you guys had and I am trying to understand it more because you guys are the only people who really stand by us now. Looks like I got some homework to do. And I doubt anyone could ever be worse than George W.
bluesboy25000 1 year ago
@bluesboy25000 Lol - I can think of few leaders who combine as many bad features!
Btw, 'Downing Street days' is worth a read...
tdp1909 1 year ago
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Far too long of thatcher, why did people ever vote for her?
I will never understand it.
uummmdonuts1 1 year ago
@uummmdonuts1 I could say the same about every Labour prime minister we've ever had in this country. They have all led governments that have left us less prosperous, weaker, less self-confident and more divided than when they came to power. Never forget that every single Labour govt. in the post-war period has left office with the country facing higher unemployment, higher taxation and massive deficits. The record of history is crystal clear.
UnitedBritannia 1 year ago 27
@UnitedBritannia
Ah but that comment is particularly irrelevant due to the fact that I never said labour prime ministers were any better. Dearest. In Thatcher's Britain there was the obvious mass unemployment, but there was also the mass homphobia, a police force under Thatcher that had the time to randomly run pub and bar checks but refused to investigate a very serious arsen attack on a gay newspaper... their reason: they were too busy.
uummmdonuts1 1 year ago
@uummmdonuts1 The idea that people of this tolerant and open-minded nation (an aspect of Britain I'm personally very proud of) turned into a bunch of homophobes under Thatcher, or any other political leader, is total nonsense. That is what you are suggesting by saying "mass homophobia" - do you really think so little of the British people? I disagree entirely with Section 28, but you are spectacularly overplaying your hand by suggesting that homophobia swept the streets of Britain because of it.
UnitedBritannia 1 year ago 2
@UnitedBritannia No, I'm not saying that, I'm saying it was present in a large way as an action, and a police force that does that kind of thing disgusts me. Are the police not set targets by the government, is that not a key part of the home office, policing the police force? If they were doing their jobs instances such as the above mentioned would have been stopped by the government. I would say more, but I have run out of characters.
uummmdonuts1 1 year ago
@uummmdonuts1 You're used to the target-setting agenda of the previous Labour govt. - targets were far less frequent, and much less prioritised within the Thatcher govt. The Home Office are responsible for creating the legal frameworks within which the police operate - but I think you're confused - it does not, and never has, instruct the police about what actions it should take on a day-to-day basis. The decision you have a problem with was taken by a senior police officer and not a politician.
UnitedBritannia 1 year ago
@UnitedBritannia who were acting on the legal framework put in place by the home office.
uummmdonuts1 1 year ago
@UnitedBritannia and we are tolerant and open-minded, but we still had very backward legislation regarding equality until the past labour government. I'm not a supporter of theirs, but credit where it's due.
uummmdonuts1 1 year ago
@uummmdonuts1 As for the comment about the police force - their actions are not controlled by the Prime Minister or any other political office. We have a separation of powers in this country between elected politicians and the police force. Would you rather we didn't, and had a politicized police force as another extension of government power? Historically this has not been an agreeable set-up, I hope you'll agree. Your example has no relevance whatsoever to Thatcher or her policies.
UnitedBritannia 1 year ago
@uummmdonuts1 You also had the unions bought to her knees. Under Thatcher's reign, we'd have no strikes and having to bow to pressure of tube drivers, train drivers and people who demand more and more in a time where we need to spend less and less. Our economy wouldn't be in the state it was in, either. I disagree with the majority of the things you've reported. The police don't take order directly from Thatcher, do they? You don't call the PM to sort out a burglary!!
RobertCoveney 1 year ago
@UnitedBritannia Clement Attlee's administration was the best in the post war Britain. He helped millions of people and improved our welfare state.
As for new labour... we have a lower national debt than Germany, France, Italy, Japan and the USA. Of COURSE Labour made mistakes, but blaming them for the current crisis takes a lot of stupidity. Don't see how they left us less self confident. What you said is a lie. Not caused by the Labour governments, simply by the circumstances.
ToaJoe 11 months ago
@uummmdonuts1 Because she was brilliant!
usernameofnobody 1 year ago
@uummmdonuts1 Simple answer...because she brought strong leadership and a sence of direction at a time when Britain was decending into anarchy and chaos.
aeronuk1 1 year ago
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@uummmdonuts1
She was a bitch and may she rot in hell!
llanberis100 1 year ago
@uummmdonuts1 They did not like the Labour party.
dlk1dlk1 1 year ago
she was an insane evil bitch who made the rich richer and exploited the poor.
she created the selfish greedy society we live in today
may she rot in hell
punkrockcol23 1 year ago
@punkrockcol23 Tithead.
mramlee 1 year ago
@punkrockcol23 PLeae get your facts right. Exploted the poor as in improved their lives? Yes unemplyment rose, but income tax for the very poorest dropped. If she was so bad to the poor how did she win 3 elections. drop income tax by 1% for the top and bottom rates and the rich will benefit more. Thats just the way it is. She gave everyone tax breaks. Not just the poor or the rich
BrapBrap1234 1 year ago
shut the fuck u cunt she was one of the strongest leaders in British history she stood up for this country and made the country far more stronger
charlieiscool1000 1 year ago
@punkrockcol23 you hit the nail on the head there.
TCX749 1 year ago
How this woman can have the gall to stand there are say that the past elevent years had been "wonderfully happy" I have no idea! Her policies left millions unemployed. Her privatisation of major industries is STILL making people unemployed to this day. I know that many will argue that she did what was necessary in the short term to gain long term stability, but in the meantime, the 80s was a miserable decade for millions. She's got some nerves to declare it 'wonderful'.
fantastischfish 1 year ago 3
@fantastischfish WELL SAID... :-D
PeteGeeza86 1 year ago
@fantastischfish Well if you look at the labour government before her, the her 11 years were heaven. There wasnt a 3 day working week. There wasn't rubbish piling up in the streets, there wasn't bodiess piling up in morgues because gravediggers were ons trike. Income tax wasn't sky high (80% at top rate). She gave the country the bad tasting medicine it needed. NO1 would do that nowadays. She had more balls than any man in politics. Irony for ya
BrapBrap1234 1 year ago 2
@fantastischfish too right.
TCX749 1 year ago
Fuckin bitch
stanbass 1 year ago
"Eleven and a half wonderful years" she says.
Wonderful for her maybe .... :/
jkws0151 1 year ago
Thatcher is the only person to have true ideology, everyone should respect her ideas as they are what form a strong society
obamadestiny 1 year ago 2
@obamadestiny Indeed.
People talk about the decline of politics in this country - and it's because after Thatcher, we haven't had any politicians prepared to stand up for what they believe in, to fight for their convictions and engage in the battle of ideas that all vibrant democracies rely on.
From Major onwards, the only thing our leading politicians have cared about is remaining popular and clinging on to their precious "center ground". It has left them (and us) in a terrible trap.
UnitedBritannia 1 year ago
@obamadestiny How can they, when there's 'no such thing'? :P
WeaselKing1000 1 year ago
@WeaselKing1000 she still belived in the family, she still believed in conformity and as it says on the back of my membership card, there is such a thing as society its just not the same as the state
obamadestiny 1 year ago
@obamadestiny Quite. Well then she should have said what she meant, perhaps.
WeaselKing1000 1 year ago
I shed tears when I think of the day Thatcher resigned... tears of laughter! People said when she wept that it showed that she was human... I replied "Her tears were for herself, nobody else... she didn't shed any tears for the miners, steelworkers, millworkers and others at the bottom did she?".
Kevinasp 1 year ago
@Kevinasp what codswollop, the miners were better off because of the payments they got and the jobs that came after, industrty was on its knees anyway and if it wasnt for monetarism probably would have closed ten years earlier anyway, both richer and poorer benefitted under thatcher and the economy was left wealthy until new labour decided to ruin it
obamadestiny 1 year ago
@obamadestiny is that why the pits colsed down here in yorkshire and people had no job? you should try telling my grandad and uncles that they were better off under Thatcher, I think they would have other ideas. HOW DARE YOU try and suggest she made life better for miners. The industry was perfectly robust before that deluded woman got into Number 10.
TCX749 1 year ago 2
@TCX749 The mining industry in britiain was in a sincear decline, globalisationm and modernisation of an electrical industry mean that thatcher had to make a choice, invest into a industry that would not sustain due to the competition, or not , your pass at me ("how dare you") is one that i have heard before, but one thing i know is that the economy was secure under thatcher weather you like it or not, just like i can admit the economy was secure under some labour leaders,
obamadestiny 1 year ago
@TCX749 No the industry wasnt robust, admitadely the way she did it was brutal, but the pits were unsustainable and had to go.
limetang 1 year ago
@TCX749 I tell you something - have you tried typing 'Orgreave (South Yorkshire)' (central event of the Miner's strike) into a Satnav or looking it up on a map?
I went there the other day & it was like it had never even existed...
tdp1909 1 year ago
...and good riddence.
AnEnemy100 1 year ago
@AnEnemy100 Agreed. I hope the door of Downing Street hit her on the arse on the way out.
fantastischfish 1 year ago