Christians say its a sin to be gay then they go beating people up for being gay yea that's totally what a god (if there was one) would fucking want to happen.
This happened back in the old days too except it was witches back then.
I'm going to live my life by a fucking book. You don't like this book? Get fucked. I don't ever want to see someone impose their religious beliefs on anyone again. If you have ever told someone that they need to be saved or that they need to find god in their life, you should do the world a favor and open a vein, the species will get stronger.
The only good thing about terrorist groups like these churches here speaking up is that we know who they are.
You have the right to believe whatever you want. You have no right to threaten, harass or assault people.
These people make claims about a book they have never read. If a child misbehaves you are to kill them. Premarital sex you are to be murdered for that too. Eating pork, lobster and shrimp is a sin too. I saw no signs about that though.
And do you REALLY think Jesus (the man who cured the lame, made blind men see, etc) would throw a crippled person OUT OF THEIR WHEELCHAIR?!?!
It's AMAZING (and repulsive) how far modern so-called "Christians" have strayed from the unconditional love for ALL humanity he tried to impart to his followers.
Instead of knocking someone's wheelchair over, I have a novel idea: FORGIVE THEM, you hypocrite!!
Who said anything about unconditional love? We were discussing Christianity.
Speaking of - you left out a few of Jesus deeds. Endorsing slavery, condoning the genocide of various cultures that didn't adhere to his teachings. The entire old testament.
You people love to cherry pick the pieces of Christianity that suit your needs and pretend the rest doesn't exist. Christianity is a religion of obedience, not love.
That's why I'm an atheist, you moron! As is my right, by the way (under that whole pesky freedom of religion thing). And yes; Christ DID advocate unconditional love. Forgiveness is one of the TENANTS of Christianity. You're mixing Old and New Testaments; they're VERY different books. For one thing, Christ is not IN the Old Testament. I'm an atheist, but at least I read up on this stuff....
Man, you're REALLY not up to speed on what you cloak your bigotry in, are you?!?
I have a gay brother, I love him with every bit of my heart. I know that society has not thought thru what Jesus has taught us. Jesus's message has been clear for many years, it has been the same for ages.LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF!
I have when people say this. In the bible it says that you can stone a woman to death if she disobeyed you. If you(or anyone) did this today, you would go to jail. For domestic violence maybe even attempted murder.
And picking what you like and don't like from the bible isn't helping your debate its shows your ignorance.
@izemo99 He's vengeful and jealous God is the Old Testament he handed it off to Jesus his son. The New Testament. The Old Testament was nothing more than a way to see our past to understand right and wrong. However the New Testament is the law and anyone who fails to follow will suffer. So those who hate and attack will be the ones to suffer for straying from their lord’s path. They pick and choose so they lie just like their Lucifer and they will share his punishment. Atleast by what I read.?
Is that a defence? This is why atheists have no time for religion. If people have a personal belief fine. But when people publicly force it on others and bring it into politics, and then think because they are preaching the bible its fine, that needs to be stamped out.
Because something is written in a book it doesn't mean it justifies your actions you fucking retard.
Since when people in america can chose to judge and hate on people just because of their religion beliefs? You believe in things being wrong, thenm pray for better days, dont go out and judge other ppl. how does that make you better, it only makes you look like a hypocrite to god. only he can decide whats wrong or right, u preach, if it doesnt touch ppl move on and preach to others dont go attacking others, what gives you the right to be-little some1 bcus of their decisions in life.
@nerdy101ful I agree with you in the sense that Christians are massive hypocrites. But, you said something which struck a nerve. You said that gay people make "choices" in life. Being homosexual isn't a choice, and it cannot be changed. What we are born with is what we die with. However, Christianity IS a choice. Therefore, it is immoral for people to be allowed go pick on gay people but quite appropriate to pick on someone because of their beliefs, in my view.
everyone who watches this God loves you no matter what even if you are gay. The Bible never said you would go to hell if you are a homosexual. To all you other Christians what makes you better. Do you eat shell fish if so the Bible said that makes you an abomination. If your Bible doesn't say so it is because of translation. The Bible in original text uses the same word for gay people as it does for people who eat shell fish.
There should be a law that keeps religion strictly inside churches. If someone wants to be more Jewish, Christian or Hindu they can make up their own damn mind if they want to.
@SpanishDomodeath - You ignore the unanimous medical evidence that sexual orientation is not a choice, but you demand evidence when a sweet lady tells how she was accosted by one of your fellow evidence-deniers.
@crazywaffleking The Bible also clearly states that it's a sin to; work on the Sabbath, to commit adultery, for a man to cut his hair or shave, for a woman to not be a virgin on her wedding night and that just a SHORT list of sins.. Odds are 99% of Christians are guilty of at least one of them, with most being guilty more than a few. As Jesus said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." [paraphrased]
@ilovejackie808 Turned? When was it anything else? Please to those of you who believe in the Christian god, read the Bible. After Genesis you just want to toss it in the fire. In any case, there's nothing wrong with Christians hating gays because of their religion. It clearly reads in Leviticus that gays should be stoned. The fundamental issue, however, is why do we respect religion? We don't respects peoples views on various other things, ie. ethical philosophy or economics.
The Straight Church is a church full of angry and ignorant hypocrites. They ignore the NT in favor of the OT and even then, they cherry pick scriptures.
They hate homosexuals, but how many women in the church were virgins on their wedding day? How many of them cursed their parents? Wear cloths made of different fabrics? How many committed adultery? How man are condemned by their fathers sins? How many work on Sunday? All sisns
I'm a nonpracticing Catholic so I can't quote the Bible off the top of my head but I seem to recall it says "love thy neighbor..." I also remember some Levitican law stating that you can't wear clothing of two different materials, so anyone with a cotton-polyester blend is a sinner, too!
Ok... Ive heard Homosexuality isnt natural... But ive seen where lions...elephants...dogs cats...birds... and every fucking animal that exists have homosexuals... OHh that doesnt matter because they dont have the breath of god? No... it does matter... they arent as good as us because they have no soul or cant think? Newsflash... If you cant think you cant live... I agree, most animals cant critically think... like solve a math problem... but... teach em, cus you cant either without learning...
@foohba1 How do you know it's not a animal raping another animal? There are so many variables with animals, and no science to prove that the animals are homosexuals.
Wrong. There was a study a while ago involving two same sex penguins, that did the same mating ritual with each other as two opposite sex penguins. They were even introduced to opposite sex penguins, but still identify each other as life mates.
to the man in the red tee shirt, look in the good book, gods word...and you will find next to genisis ''lay of the fucking mcdonalds you fat bastard, they might be gay or lesbians ...but there still getting plenty more nookie than you are''
If christians made a widely accepted ritual in courtship that was listed under religious actions or whatnot a lesbian/gay would want to do it just to butt into a religion and it's ceremonious beliefs. Why get married when it was invented by religion and mostly all religions disagree with homosexuality? Simple... like a teenage kid trying to exploit his/her freedom.
Hey everyone i own a church in real life and i recently found out that a guy who had been coming to my church for 10 years was gay. i banned him and all of his family from ever entering my church again. I wont let gay people pollute my place of peace
wait wait... you guys have loony christians in Australia too?! damn they must have been inspired by the ones over here. on behalf of all non-christian americans, i apologize.
WTF I'm a Christian and i find this bullshit! Let them homos do ther stuff i dont fucking care are they a sin or not! And to make it even worse those Christians attacked them just like that, LEAVE THEM ALONE THEY DID NOT DO SHIT TO YOU! For fucks sake this keeps making me wanna be a atheist or something.
I will never understand why the whole gay community wants in on marriage anyway. It's a christian institution, why would you want in on something that was created by people who hate you?
There should just be a separate institution with equal rights as marriage.
@growlgrowlpigsqueal Marriage is only Christian? I thought it was Jewish too. And I'm pretty sure Muslims get married too... and Hindus... As a matter of fact, I think just about EVERY culture has some form of marriage.
What I wonder is this. God made humans to look like him and be like him (old testament). So if god put gay people on the Earth then he wants them here. For example: .
“And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good”. .
So really these "Christians" are going against god. Blasphemy! They will burn in hell.
this is wrong in so many ways, love should be equal (no I'm not gay) and yeah right: pulling a person out of their wheelchair is a "peaceful" protest.
I will never understand religious people who do this sort of thing. If we want to disobey the bible and go to hell, that's our choice, how is it any of your business?
Seriously, pulling disability gay people from wheelchair? What's wrong with those Christians? Is this how the churches treat homosexual people? The Church need to stop hatreds and bullying.
Im Christian and one of my best friends in lesbian, I see nothing wrong with that. People are who they are. It's not right to judge people. AND OhMyGosh WHAT ARE THEY DOING?! Judging!!!
@xXCinnerzXx i am an atheist and i think christians are lame religion because they judge otherrs and singers or actors such fergie and other people like em
WHY THE HELL ARE THERE LIKES IN THIS VIDEO?! I DO T GET IT I THINK ITS VERY WRONG TO BULLY PEOPLE JUST BECAUSE OF THAT!!!!!!! 😡 those people could just eat💩. Not the gays and stuff but the guy that pushed the lady off her wheelchair
I IS HAPPY TO BE ME, AND A CHRISTIANS, BUT WHY THE HELL ARE CHRISTIANS ALLOUD TO BULLY THE WORLD!!! not all do it (EX: ME) but I think it's wrong when the religion about love becomes the most violent
@TheOverOpiniatedGuy people don't seem to need excuses to be homophobic, but I agree that religion is the root cause of all homophobia. Without it being written in their holy books homophobia would have never taken root in society as a whole.
@lisztnut I missed this one too! Yes I'm fully behind you with that. People can still believe in a god with out having to follow a religion. Man religions are just so fucked up, I was going to list a few things wrong with how they operate but again you probably now and lets be honest there are lots!
@TheOverOpiniatedGuy we are of one mind, mate. By the way, my husband and I came to Australia on vacation (holiday) two years ago and we LOVE Aussies! Come vist us in San Francisco!
@lisztnut Pity homosexuals aren't helping their own cause with being so promiscous and effeminate. I'm not against people being gay but for fuck sake, stop being so stereotypical and act like a man. Wearing make up and pink or being a butch lesbian shows that you're insecure about your own sexuality and hide your troubles behind an exterior that is false. Act with your reason and not with what your depression tells you.
We have our own reasons why we oppose gay marriage and its not because
@philipmarie1854 First off, I'm not effeminate, and if I were my husband wouldn't have married me. We aren't attracted to anything feminine. Nice try, though. It only shows that you don't know any REAL homosexuals. And, come to San Francisco and I'll show you what being a man is about, and you won't have any teeth left, asshole.
@lisztnut I have a close relative who is transexual and who loves us to death. You don't know me so shut up. There are indeed people in Malta; apperantly, there is no reasoning in your brain. You can only spout insults and what not.
@philipmarie1854 yes, there are no people on Malta. You heard me the first time. That's because your only knowledge of gay people is shit you've read on the internet. Come to my gay gym and watch the manly men kick your scrawny Maltese ass.
@philipmarie1854 there is a theory that the reason gay men have larger penises than straight men (verified through scientific studies) is because gay men recieve HIGHER levels of testosterone in the uterus. Thus, we are actually MORE manly than straight men, you idiot.
@lisztnut we are indeed homophobic. A homophobe is someone afraid of homosexuals raping his children and what not. We don't, we oppose homosexual marriage because of the bad effect it will have on children and their perspective of marriage, it opens the way to other vices (when will we see protests for impregnating 'men' and for polygamy to be allowed?) and it is all around based on a false concept of love. Marriage is between one an and woman. You can love a person of the same sex but you don't
@philipmarie1854 and, I might add that 98 percent of child molesters are heterosexual males, so nice try linking us falsely to child molestation, ASSHOLE!
@lisztnut 98 I didn't even SAY that homosexual rape children you twat. While it does happen, pedophiles are a minority amongst heterosexuals as much as they are among gays.
@philipmarie1854 but, you failed to mention that the majority of child molesters and pedphiles are straight males. Ponder this stat: 98 percent of child molesters are straight males and yet straight males are only 48 percent of the population.
@philipmarie1854 I'm already married, asshole, so you're too late for your one man/one woman bullshit. The time to argue that was four years ago BEFORE I got married. Dumbass...
@lisztnut have to marry him. If we married all the people we 'love', why can't we marry our own sisters or uncles? Children need both a father and a mother or an enviroment showing favor toward real marriage because they experience each genders qualities which helps bring their own qualities out.
@philipmarie1854 and, you're quite mistaken about parenting. Multiple studies on three continents have shown that gays are not only equal to straights at raising kids, but some studies show that we're SUPERIOR to straights at raising kids. The government of Canada did the most comprehensive study, and it showed that gays were better at raising children. Google: Lesbian Parents Better at Raising Kids, Sunday Times (London, UK). 2009
@lisztnut Go fuck yourself. Who raised this generation? Did you gays do it? No you didn't you were too busy being asshats towards heterosexuals and initiating the sexual revolution to give a damn. Did you care if you insulted the billions of families that have been raising children during all these thousand years? No you didn't so go fuck yourself. We oppose homosexual 'marriage' because it masculanizes girls and makes boys effeminate and makes them more likely to explore homosexuality.
"We oppose homosexual 'marriage' because it masculanizes girls and makes boys effeminate and makes them more likely to explore homosexuality."
If that's the case, then every gay person who was raised by a straight couple wouldn't be gay. As a homosexual raised by an opposite sex, mormon couple, I think it's safe to say your logic fails. You don't catch a 'gay' disease. You either like the same sex or you don't.
@StevenJKpower I never said that being gay is a disease. The thing is, I don't think homosexuality exists as a sex. Are gay people mentally ill then for not lusting after the opposite sex? NO! Neither should they be forced to lust after the diffirent sex (although if a gay man doesn't want to talk with straight women because he finds them apprehensive, well, he's being spcially awkward and thats not good obviously). To us, the only way a man can be 'born' gay is if he is born with certain
@StevenJKpower hormones that make him lust after the same sex. Its the same with bisexuals, only they lust after both sexes and that is truly sick. The same with pedophiles. I'm not saying homosexuals are on the same level as pedos, FAR from it as I know a gay person myself who loves us to death. But not all pedohpiles are mentally ill and not all pedophiles actually harm children. How many men are there who find teenagers attractive yet would never bring themselves to harm them? How many people
@StevenJKpower struggle with their whole might to not fanatsize about children? The actions of some Christians towards gay people is deplorable but if they simply oppose homosexual marriage because it threatens the way society functions on the fmaily, I'm with them. If we oppose homosexual 'marriage', we also oppose divorce and abortion.
Thats our view: homosexuality is simply lust. There are gays who marry the opposite sex because they find true love there yet still struggle with their tempt
I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to stop you right there. To me, my relationship with my boyfriend is anything but a product of lust. When he's sick I take care of him, when he's sad I console him, and there are even times when we don't want sex-- we just want to cuddle. And I personally hate cuddling, so that IS something special. He also does the same for me.
@StevenJKpower thank you for putting this pedophile priest in his place. I can't believe that idiots such as him are so misinformed. But, he lives in an uncivilized and uncultured place (Malta), so I suppose we should consider the source. The nerve of idiots like that to say that our relationships are based on lust. It truly pisses me off. I've been married to my same sex spouse for four years, and we've been together for ten years. Our marriage is not based on lust.
@StevenJKpower Sorry if I offended and this will offend you for sure but, setting aside the outside of marriage argument, while there is NOTHING (as too many saints did it) wrong in taking care of a friend or holding his hand in times of crisis or hugging each other for comfort or to show affection, we just oppose gay 'marriage' (and abortion. And pre-marital sex. And contraception) because of the effects it will have people's perception of morality. We oppose it because it is unnatural in the
That's the thing though. These are your standards that you should uphold, and not impose on anybody else. Canada has allowed same sex marriage, and their country isn't any more fucked up than ours. The same goes for certain European countries.
@StevenJKpower sense not that people can't love someone of the same sex or be life partners (search heterosexual life partners on TV tropes, heterosexual used loosely here) but in the same way a cousin loves a cousin or a brother loves a sister. We don't think wanting a same sex friend to be happy is bad, just that homosexual marriage is bad both for the children and the things they'll be brought up to believe (and not indeed because they're more likely to be abused. Homosexuals are JUST AS
@StevenJKpower LIKELY to abuse children as heterosexuals or anyone else), because it opens the door for other abuses like polygamy (how many homosexuals PRAISED Thomas Beatie, the world's first pregnant 'man' instead of being disgusted at the emberassment he may bring to her kid? Because Beatie is not a man; she didn't even remove her genitalia and only took hormones to grow a beard) and polyamory. No, you can't love more than one person with the same love you're supposed to hold for your spouse
@StevenJKpower It just doesn't work. Either you give yourself to one person or you give yourself to none. And about cuddling not being wrong: society, even mediaval soceity, had diffirent standards about what is modest and what is not. For example, going nude in times of necassity wasn't seen as actually bad as long as the purpose wasn't sexual. Low necks instead of being seen as a sign of lust were seen as sign of nobility. The French even kiss each other as a greeting.
I brought this up, because you were claiming that homosexuality is a product of lust. When the things I do for my boyfriend aren't sexual. When you 'lust' after someone, it's purely sexual attraction, which would imply that it was purely sexual escapades. I'm saying that my relationship with my boyfriend isn't lust, because it isn't always sexual.
@StevenJKpower Good. You're better than most gays who have handfuls of partners. But the point is loving a person doesn't make one a homosexual. Thats our argument.
@StevenJKpower Thats my argument. People shouldn't cuddle others of the same sex in a sexual way (I say this without knowing you of course) but as a way to comfort another. There are men who literally hold their wife's breasts for comfort when they're depressed and aren't turned on in the least; to them, its a sign of affection as the breast isn't exactly sexual. I'll just tell you this: if you have a relative or a friend who insults you because you're gya, ignore them. I say this as an ultra-
@StevenJKpower conservative Catholic who opposes both gay marriage, abortion, modernism and what not. Just be careful in life and love and don't have contempt on heterosexual people, be they devout Christians or not. The Blessed Virgin doesn't laugh at sinners when they're down, She helps them back up and a lot f these devout people need help, just as a lot of gays need help in being secure about themselves and accepting who they are without without looking like idiots.
@AntitheistPOV Well fuck you then. I'm not condemning all gays, I'm just going against those who are promicous and are effeminate or butch lesbians in order to lead them away from their insecurities and the bad life they're leading.I oppose gay marriage because of various reasons, not because I think all gays are pedophiles. Bigotry is when you redouble your efforts after losing your aim and anti-theists like you are just like that: you pretend to do good by bashing everything Christian.
@MrBillybear91 I already said why! If you want more details, read my comments on this page. You can search any comment of any page by clicking Edit in your menu bar, choosing 'Find on this page' and typing my username in the ensuing search bar. Or, you can press Ctrl+F to be quick. In short, I oppose it because of the bad effect it would have on children and their perception of marriage, because it is unnatural and ebcause spousal love only exists between a man and a woman.
@philipmarie1854 Well I'm glad you disagree but non the least the country was suppose to be one of freedom. You have the right to disagree but you do not have the right to take someone elses freedom away. But recently I do not belief this is a free country it's more like your only free if you walk, talk, and act like me. Kinda sad really. But here is a suggestion remove marriage from state law and only have it in churches. If you want benefits then sign a joint union sounds fair?
You have however made several points, most gay people do in fact give in to lust. Yet so do straight people. Homosexuality may be more affiliated with lust, but what can you expect, when you have a society that ostracizes the subject, and doesn't offer much education, to the point where homosexuals don't KNOW how to act in a situation?
@StevenJKpower True a lot of straight people give in to lust outside of marriage and should be ashamed of themselves yet I don't blame society for not providing sex education; I blame it for GLORIFYING FREE SEX as something good. Seriously man, how many teen pregancies do you tihnk ar ehte result of teens cecking porn off the internet?
@philipmarie1854 no, homosexuality isn't lust, you moron. Homosexuality is a naturally occurring sexual orientation just like heterosexuality. It exists for a biological purpose and has always existed in humans and animals. Humans are the only species which make a moral judgement about this issue, which isn't a moral issue. You religious people are idiots.
@StevenJKpower ations regarding the same sex, in much the same way spouses struggle with facying other non-married people. Its easy to avoid adultery but its not easy to avoid lusty smiles. I don't mean to offend but homosexual marriage is as acceptable as polygamy and intermarrying- it brings bad misconceptions on children even if it does not mentally scar them. You can love a person as a brother or sister, you can admire a person for being handosme or beautiful even if he is of the same sex
@philipmarie1854 try to get some education, instead of spouting off bullshit you learned in church. The church is not a scientific organization and their teachings on homosexuality are dead wrong.
@philipmarie1854 bullshit, gay marriage is not a negative influence on children. There are gay children, too, asshole, and they should know that they can eventually grow up and marry the person they love.
@StevenJKpower but you can't marry a person of the same sex because homosexual 'marriage' isn't based on true love but lust. A study made by two university of Claifornia teachers and which looked at over TWENTY YEARS of homosexual studies found that yes, children are more likely to explore homosexuality if they are raised in such 'relationships', just as gay children are more likely to question their sexuality when raised by straight couples
@philipmarie1854 no, this is patently FALSE. Children of gay parents are not more likely to explore gay sex. I live in California, and you are reading nonsense. This is NOT true. It has been proven to be false. And, if you've read that gay people live shorter lives, this is also FALSE.
@philipmarie1854 a child's home environment plays NO role in their sexual orientation. I was raised by Christian Evangelicals and had NO exposure to anything that was remotely homosexual. I knew I was homosexual from my earliest memories, despite having no idea that there were "other' gay people in the world.
@philipmarie1854 homosexuality is no more a moral issue than is left handedness or red hair. Just because something is the minority, does not make it immoral, you idiot.
It's time this paranoia really stops. If your kid is going to be gay, then he's going to be gay whether you accept it or not. Hopefully you will love your own child enough, to support him/her, instead of being the parent that contributes to the suicide rate of homosexual teens.
@StevenJKpower True, but homosexuals commit suicide also because some of them feel insecure about themselves without any help of their parents. Not all gays come from religious families you know. If my child told me he's gay, I'd tell him that I'll accept him but that he must not be promiscious or filthy, you know, the same things orinary people tell their own straight children in order to preserve their lives. I'd TELL him (not force him) and try to convince him why homosexual marriage is wrong
@philipmarie1854 no, homosexuals commit suicide because of assholes like YOU, who make a moral judgement about something the child has no control over. And, you're such a moron, you'd tell a son that he can't be "promiscuous?" WTF? You assume that gay people are promiscuous and yet 80 percent of married straight couples admit to infidelity?
@StevenJKpower and that he can love his same sex friends as a brother or sister and encourage him to not be depressed and what not. I'd tell him as I would tell my straight children to examine their conscience and see if their thoughts about marriage are real and sincere and not based on lust (you know, like Edward and Bella? Screw you Stephanie Meyer!)
@philipmarie1854 face it, there is no acceptable reason to oppose gay marriage. Marriage is a legal matter and has nothing to do with any religious groups. In France, religious marriage isn't legal.
@philipmarie1854 any parent that tells a child they are a sinner because they were born a certain way does not deserve to be a parent. PERIOD! It is child abuse to tell a gay child that he's a sinner because of something so fundamental to his being as his sexuality. SHAMEFUL! In Alberta, Canada it is now illegal to teach that homosexuality is a sin even in church schools.
Did you mark lisztnut comments as spam? They were not spam. To mark someones comments as spam because they aren't homophobic is absolutely ridiculous. Nothing but ignorance I'm afraid.
@SamCoreJ I honestly didn't. I dídn't even remove some other guys comments and neither do I know how to remove comments. Admittedly, lisztnut's comments are rather mean spirited and angry, telling us that gays are better parents (livescience can go jump off a cliff for being shit) or wanting to harm me and calling all Catholic pedohpiles with an e-mail he sent me but I didn't flag his comments. Does that make me a better person?
@SamCoreJ If I did what you said, then all the comments that aren't from me on this page would be flagged, even though they are often filled with anti-christian rhetoric that goes beyond criticism.
See, its not just americans that do this shit, stupidity is universal.
327thepeanut 2 minutes ago
Christians say its a sin to be gay then they go beating people up for being gay yea that's totally what a god (if there was one) would fucking want to happen.
This happened back in the old days too except it was witches back then.
EymSmiley 44 minutes ago
...and you will know they are Christians by their love...
FrankLightheart 1 hour ago
The bible is a book full of dead words.
ballerine11 2 hours ago
I'm going to live my life by a fucking book. You don't like this book? Get fucked. I don't ever want to see someone impose their religious beliefs on anyone again. If you have ever told someone that they need to be saved or that they need to find god in their life, you should do the world a favor and open a vein, the species will get stronger.
fuckbosco 3 hours ago
Anti-gay people always seem to throw the bible in the faces of those who support gay rights, it seems.
Doesn't anyone actually read the bible? They'd realize that it's just as much of a sin to judge someone in place of God...
SyntheticCupcake 4 hours ago
The only good thing about terrorist groups like these churches here speaking up is that we know who they are.
You have the right to believe whatever you want. You have no right to threaten, harass or assault people.
These people make claims about a book they have never read. If a child misbehaves you are to kill them. Premarital sex you are to be murdered for that too. Eating pork, lobster and shrimp is a sin too. I saw no signs about that though.
I saw only hatred, ignorance, and intolerance.
antiUltimateInfinity 11 hours ago 9
@antiUltimateInfinity Here here!!!
MrBillybear91 6 hours ago
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sebulia1 16 hours ago
lol old man walks up
BLOODY LIAR
What a boss!
4x4manify 18 hours ago 10
Bloody liar... That man deserves a medal...
dayvidpowers 19 hours ago
They have an unusual ministry: the knock her out of the wheelchair ministry
writerJerome 19 hours ago
@writerJerome
Not very Christian, is it?
Whatever happened to forgiveness?
sebulia1 16 hours ago
most cristians cant accept people how holocaust started they dont think
bdogonezero 22 hours ago
These so-called "Christians" would've made Jesus puke...
sebulia1 1 day ago
@sebulia1
Really? The Bible says homosexuality is a sin and that if two men have sex with each other they should be killed.
Seems to me these people are an accurate representation of Christianity.
AntitheistPOV 21 hours ago
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sebulia1 16 hours ago
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@AntitheistPOV
And do you REALLY think Jesus (the man who cured the lame, made blind men see, etc) would throw a crippled person OUT OF THEIR WHEELCHAIR?!?!
It's AMAZING (and repulsive) how far modern so-called "Christians" have strayed from the unconditional love for ALL humanity he tried to impart to his followers.
Instead of knocking someone's wheelchair over, I have a novel idea: FORGIVE THEM, you hypocrite!!
sebulia1 16 hours ago
@sebulia1
Who said anything about unconditional love? We were discussing Christianity.
Speaking of - you left out a few of Jesus deeds. Endorsing slavery, condoning the genocide of various cultures that didn't adhere to his teachings. The entire old testament.
You people love to cherry pick the pieces of Christianity that suit your needs and pretend the rest doesn't exist. Christianity is a religion of obedience, not love.
AntitheistPOV 15 hours ago
@AntitheistPOV
That's why I'm an atheist, you moron! As is my right, by the way (under that whole pesky freedom of religion thing). And yes; Christ DID advocate unconditional love. Forgiveness is one of the TENANTS of Christianity. You're mixing Old and New Testaments; they're VERY different books. For one thing, Christ is not IN the Old Testament. I'm an atheist, but at least I read up on this stuff....
Man, you're REALLY not up to speed on what you cloak your bigotry in, are you?!?
sebulia1 13 hours ago
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I have a gay brother, I love him with every bit of my heart. I know that society has not thought thru what Jesus has taught us. Jesus's message has been clear for many years, it has been the same for ages.LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF!
Proverbs 10:12
Hatred stirs up dissension, but love covers over all wrongs
1 John 4:8
Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love
cazurhellen83 1 day ago
Well, we know who has control of the media there in socialist Australia.
95loverofduff 1 day ago
@95loverofduff
The same person/corporation that owns your largest media network, champ.
Don't you hate facts? They always get in the way of a good argument.
AntitheistPOV 21 hours ago
That pastor doesn't seem to realise what a jerk god is supposed to be
Treblaine 1 day ago
1:11-1:14ish
I have when people say this. In the bible it says that you can stone a woman to death if she disobeyed you. If you(or anyone) did this today, you would go to jail. For domestic violence maybe even attempted murder.
And picking what you like and don't like from the bible isn't helping your debate its shows your ignorance.
izemo99 1 day ago
@izemo99 He's vengeful and jealous God is the Old Testament he handed it off to Jesus his son. The New Testament. The Old Testament was nothing more than a way to see our past to understand right and wrong. However the New Testament is the law and anyone who fails to follow will suffer. So those who hate and attack will be the ones to suffer for straying from their lord’s path. They pick and choose so they lie just like their Lucifer and they will share his punishment. Atleast by what I read.?
House1Mouse0 1 day ago
1:07 "We're just preaching the bible".
Is that a defence? This is why atheists have no time for religion. If people have a personal belief fine. But when people publicly force it on others and bring it into politics, and then think because they are preaching the bible its fine, that needs to be stamped out.
Because something is written in a book it doesn't mean it justifies your actions you fucking retard.
SamCoreJ 1 day ago
Since when people in america can chose to judge and hate on people just because of their religion beliefs? You believe in things being wrong, thenm pray for better days, dont go out and judge other ppl. how does that make you better, it only makes you look like a hypocrite to god. only he can decide whats wrong or right, u preach, if it doesnt touch ppl move on and preach to others dont go attacking others, what gives you the right to be-little some1 bcus of their decisions in life.
nerdy101ful 1 day ago
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@nerdy101ful I agree with you in the sense that Christians are massive hypocrites. But, you said something which struck a nerve. You said that gay people make "choices" in life. Being homosexual isn't a choice, and it cannot be changed. What we are born with is what we die with. However, Christianity IS a choice. Therefore, it is immoral for people to be allowed go pick on gay people but quite appropriate to pick on someone because of their beliefs, in my view.
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trafficjam10 1 day ago
everyone who watches this God loves you no matter what even if you are gay. The Bible never said you would go to hell if you are a homosexual. To all you other Christians what makes you better. Do you eat shell fish if so the Bible said that makes you an abomination. If your Bible doesn't say so it is because of translation. The Bible in original text uses the same word for gay people as it does for people who eat shell fish.
seanlazer1996 1 day ago
DEATH TO FAGS!
tropixsongs 2 days ago
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@tropixsongs death to breeder bigots!
lisztnut 1 day ago
@tropixsongs Yeah... death to cigarettes...
foohba1 1 day ago
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The top comment is atheist. Sweet.
dmcarefuldriver 2 days ago
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dmcarefuldriver 2 days ago
There should be a law that keeps religion strictly inside churches. If someone wants to be more Jewish, Christian or Hindu they can make up their own damn mind if they want to.
DJSorenSky 2 days ago 3
MURRCA FUCK YEAHHHH
sta0005 2 days ago
I was raised in a church like that one.
I am now love and support gay people and their rights.
I'm split in two. :S
ccchat8 2 days ago
Many people could claim they were thrown from their wheel chair, but where is her evidence?
SpanishDomodeath 2 days ago
@SpanishDomodeath - You ignore the unanimous medical evidence that sexual orientation is not a choice, but you demand evidence when a sweet lady tells how she was accosted by one of your fellow evidence-deniers.
writerJerome 12 hours ago
I'm neither gay nor religious, but the bible does clearly state gays are sinners and will go to hell.
I find the whole thing hilarious.
crazywaffleking 2 days ago
@crazywaffleking The Bible also clearly states that it's a sin to; work on the Sabbath, to commit adultery, for a man to cut his hair or shave, for a woman to not be a virgin on her wedding night and that just a SHORT list of sins.. Odds are 99% of Christians are guilty of at least one of them, with most being guilty more than a few. As Jesus said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." [paraphrased]
coyoteself 2 days ago
The Bible has turned into nothing more than a book of hate.
ilovejackie808 2 days ago 11
I agree. But that's just the religion transforming and eventually meeting its end.
thetightpinkie 2 days ago
@ilovejackie808 Turned? It was a book of hate since the day it was written...
Osgiliath101met 1 day ago
@ilovejackie808 Turned? When was it anything else? Please to those of you who believe in the Christian god, read the Bible. After Genesis you just want to toss it in the fire. In any case, there's nothing wrong with Christians hating gays because of their religion. It clearly reads in Leviticus that gays should be stoned. The fundamental issue, however, is why do we respect religion? We don't respects peoples views on various other things, ie. ethical philosophy or economics.
SuperLumberjacker 1 day ago
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@SuperLumberjacker let's not forget that these people are also supposed to be stoned to death, according to the bible:
1 women who are not virgins on their wedding night
2 children who curseth their parents
3 any straight couple who has sex when the woman is on her period
Just letting you know that there would be a lot of dead people if we followed the bible!
lisztnut 1 day ago
The Straight Church is a church full of angry and ignorant hypocrites. They ignore the NT in favor of the OT and even then, they cherry pick scriptures.
They hate homosexuals, but how many women in the church were virgins on their wedding day? How many of them cursed their parents? Wear cloths made of different fabrics? How many committed adultery? How man are condemned by their fathers sins? How many work on Sunday? All sisns
Yep, hypocrites, each and everyone of them!
coyoteself 2 days ago
1:10 And the page before that it says that any woman wearing jeans is sinning.
21CGa 2 days ago
I'm a nonpracticing Catholic so I can't quote the Bible off the top of my head but I seem to recall it says "love thy neighbor..." I also remember some Levitican law stating that you can't wear clothing of two different materials, so anyone with a cotton-polyester blend is a sinner, too!
(looks at shirt tag)
Oh, crap...
Kensei007 2 days ago
In australia??? You are shitting me
mehico33 2 days ago
"Bloody LIAR!" ahaha, ledgend.
THEx7project 2 days ago
I hate to use stereotypes here but the woman priest at the end looks lesbian.
Bigot much?
funkyleaf 2 days ago
Ok... Ive heard Homosexuality isnt natural... But ive seen where lions...elephants...dogs cats...birds... and every fucking animal that exists have homosexuals... OHh that doesnt matter because they dont have the breath of god? No... it does matter... they arent as good as us because they have no soul or cant think? Newsflash... If you cant think you cant live... I agree, most animals cant critically think... like solve a math problem... but... teach em, cus you cant either without learning...
foohba1 2 days ago
@foohba1 How do you know it's not a animal raping another animal? There are so many variables with animals, and no science to prove that the animals are homosexuals.
ScreamMode1337 1 day ago
@ScreamMode1337 Hmm...
foohba1 1 day ago
@ScreamMode1337
Wrong. There was a study a while ago involving two same sex penguins, that did the same mating ritual with each other as two opposite sex penguins. They were even introduced to opposite sex penguins, but still identify each other as life mates.
StevenJKpower 1 day ago
to the man in the red tee shirt, look in the good book, gods word...and you will find next to genisis ''lay of the fucking mcdonalds you fat bastard, they might be gay or lesbians ...but there still getting plenty more nookie than you are''
koopafruit 2 days ago
If christians made a widely accepted ritual in courtship that was listed under religious actions or whatnot a lesbian/gay would want to do it just to butt into a religion and it's ceremonious beliefs. Why get married when it was invented by religion and mostly all religions disagree with homosexuality? Simple... like a teenage kid trying to exploit his/her freedom.
ScreamMode1337 2 days ago
So who started and ended the peace here? From America
123Johnny77123 2 days ago
Do these religious nuts really think people listen to them?
thinkboutit 3 days ago
Religion is often, a very problematic concept.
IncidentalxHappening 3 days ago
Omfg! PWND by the old man :D 1:13 <3
pettsnurr 3 days ago 3
i came here to see her thrown from her chair! WTF
rooner15 3 days ago
1:02 "threw me to the ground, wouldnt let go"..... in what way does this story make sense. I think she made up a bullshit story.
ICECOLDBLADES 3 days ago
Religion = Hatred
Claybreaker2 3 days ago
i like the guy at 1:14
themachobeast85 3 days ago
Fuck religion, it only spawns religitards...
Sechuban 3 days ago
Hey everyone i own a church in real life and i recently found out that a guy who had been coming to my church for 10 years was gay. i banned him and all of his family from ever entering my church again. I wont let gay people pollute my place of peace
KingPipweed 3 days ago
@KingPipweed good man
generalarchives 3 days ago
thumbs up too the guy at 1:14 BLOODY LIAR! lol
littlemonster10000 3 days ago 2
You bloody liar ;) ah that guy is awesome :D
Spampiglets 3 days ago
wait wait... you guys have loony christians in Australia too?! damn they must have been inspired by the ones over here. on behalf of all non-christian americans, i apologize.
tylowylo12321 3 days ago
You call that a protest? this is a protest!
Glaswegianmark 3 days ago 2
I knew that we had heaps of psycho Christians. I didn't know that Aussies had them too.
hakkujin 3 days ago
WTF I'm a Christian and i find this bullshit! Let them homos do ther stuff i dont fucking care are they a sin or not! And to make it even worse those Christians attacked them just like that, LEAVE THEM ALONE THEY DID NOT DO SHIT TO YOU! For fucks sake this keeps making me wanna be a atheist or something.
P.S. I'm not a homo.
SuperNickBrick1 3 days ago
I will never understand why the whole gay community wants in on marriage anyway. It's a christian institution, why would you want in on something that was created by people who hate you?
There should just be a separate institution with equal rights as marriage.
growlgrowlpigsqueal 3 days ago
@growlgrowlpigsqueal Marriage is only Christian? I thought it was Jewish too. And I'm pretty sure Muslims get married too... and Hindus... As a matter of fact, I think just about EVERY culture has some form of marriage.
WFSW32 3 days ago
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There is no God. That is all If you dont like, tough fucking shit!
SupremeCmder 4 days ago 25
Just because you quote a book, does not make it true.
jrb1208 4 days ago 3
What I wonder is this. God made humans to look like him and be like him (old testament). So if god put gay people on the Earth then he wants them here. For example: .
“And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good”. .
So really these "Christians" are going against god. Blasphemy! They will burn in hell.
kotapaka 4 days ago
this is wrong in so many ways, love should be equal (no I'm not gay) and yeah right: pulling a person out of their wheelchair is a "peaceful" protest.
aPerson1901 4 days ago
I will never understand religious people who do this sort of thing. If we want to disobey the bible and go to hell, that's our choice, how is it any of your business?
JHashcroft 4 days ago
so we got faggots and bible kissers
wish they would just destroy each other
kilkolio 4 days ago
but im christian and im bi... we are not all bad, just a good majority.. :( im sorry...
TheGreedjr 4 days ago
@TheGreedjr Dont be sorry for 2.5 billion christians
SupremeCmder 4 days ago
thumbs up if christians are lame
EASTSIDEGANSTA1 4 days ago
Seriously, pulling disability gay people from wheelchair? What's wrong with those Christians? Is this how the churches treat homosexual people? The Church need to stop hatreds and bullying.
summer3lee838 4 days ago
Im Christian and one of my best friends in lesbian, I see nothing wrong with that. People are who they are. It's not right to judge people. AND OhMyGosh WHAT ARE THEY DOING?! Judging!!!
xXCinnerzXx 4 days ago
@xXCinnerzXx i am an atheist and i think christians are lame religion because they judge otherrs and singers or actors such fergie and other people like em
EASTSIDEGANSTA1 4 days ago
Wasn't there something like "He who is without sin toss the first stone" or something -_- ...
131Yuki131 4 days ago
Fucking religious people
TheRitchardgaleHater 4 days ago
WHY THE HELL ARE THERE LIKES IN THIS VIDEO?! I DO T GET IT I THINK ITS VERY WRONG TO BULLY PEOPLE JUST BECAUSE OF THAT!!!!!!! 😡 those people could just eat💩. Not the gays and stuff but the guy that pushed the lady off her wheelchair
girlgenerationonutwo 4 days ago
I IS HAPPY TO BE ME, AND A CHRISTIANS, BUT WHY THE HELL ARE CHRISTIANS ALLOUD TO BULLY THE WORLD!!! not all do it (EX: ME) but I think it's wrong when the religion about love becomes the most violent
soundwave159 4 days ago
Yay people using religion as an excuse to be homophobic!
TheOverOpiniatedGuy 5 days ago
@TheOverOpiniatedGuy people don't seem to need excuses to be homophobic, but I agree that religion is the root cause of all homophobia. Without it being written in their holy books homophobia would have never taken root in society as a whole.
lisztnut 5 days ago 14
@lisztnut I missed this one too! Yes I'm fully behind you with that. People can still believe in a god with out having to follow a religion. Man religions are just so fucked up, I was going to list a few things wrong with how they operate but again you probably now and lets be honest there are lots!
TheOverOpiniatedGuy 5 days ago
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@TheOverOpiniatedGuy we are of one mind, mate. By the way, my husband and I came to Australia on vacation (holiday) two years ago and we LOVE Aussies! Come vist us in San Francisco!
lisztnut 4 days ago
@lisztnut so your saying christians should be judged ? i think they should
EASTSIDEGANSTA1 4 days ago
@EASTSIDEGANSTA1 Yes, I think Christians who use their bibles to condemn any minority should be judged. Absolutely. Glad we agree on that.
lisztnut 4 days ago
@lisztnut Pity homosexuals aren't helping their own cause with being so promiscous and effeminate. I'm not against people being gay but for fuck sake, stop being so stereotypical and act like a man. Wearing make up and pink or being a butch lesbian shows that you're insecure about your own sexuality and hide your troubles behind an exterior that is false. Act with your reason and not with what your depression tells you.
We have our own reasons why we oppose gay marriage and its not because
philipmarie1854 2 days ago
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@philipmarie1854 First off, I'm not effeminate, and if I were my husband wouldn't have married me. We aren't attracted to anything feminine. Nice try, though. It only shows that you don't know any REAL homosexuals. And, come to San Francisco and I'll show you what being a man is about, and you won't have any teeth left, asshole.
lisztnut 1 day ago
@lisztnut Stephen Fry and the author of Fight Club are what we call 'straight gays'. They're not effeminate but they act like man and are still gay.
philipmarie1854 1 day ago
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@philipmarie1854 you live on a fucking rock in the middle of nowhere, no wonder you've never met gay people. There no PEOPLE period in Malta! LOL!
lisztnut 1 day ago
@lisztnut I have a close relative who is transexual and who loves us to death. You don't know me so shut up. There are indeed people in Malta; apperantly, there is no reasoning in your brain. You can only spout insults and what not.
philipmarie1854 1 day ago
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@philipmarie1854 yes, there are no people on Malta. You heard me the first time. That's because your only knowledge of gay people is shit you've read on the internet. Come to my gay gym and watch the manly men kick your scrawny Maltese ass.
lisztnut 1 day ago
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@philipmarie1854 there is a theory that the reason gay men have larger penises than straight men (verified through scientific studies) is because gay men recieve HIGHER levels of testosterone in the uterus. Thus, we are actually MORE manly than straight men, you idiot.
lisztnut 1 day ago
@lisztnut we are indeed homophobic. A homophobe is someone afraid of homosexuals raping his children and what not. We don't, we oppose homosexual marriage because of the bad effect it will have on children and their perspective of marriage, it opens the way to other vices (when will we see protests for impregnating 'men' and for polygamy to be allowed?) and it is all around based on a false concept of love. Marriage is between one an and woman. You can love a person of the same sex but you don't
philipmarie1854 2 days ago
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@philipmarie1854 and, I might add that 98 percent of child molesters are heterosexual males, so nice try linking us falsely to child molestation, ASSHOLE!
lisztnut 1 day ago
@lisztnut 98 I didn't even SAY that homosexual rape children you twat. While it does happen, pedophiles are a minority amongst heterosexuals as much as they are among gays.
philipmarie1854 1 day ago
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@philipmarie1854 but, you failed to mention that the majority of child molesters and pedphiles are straight males. Ponder this stat: 98 percent of child molesters are straight males and yet straight males are only 48 percent of the population.
lisztnut 1 day ago
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@philipmarie1854 I'm already married, asshole, so you're too late for your one man/one woman bullshit. The time to argue that was four years ago BEFORE I got married. Dumbass...
lisztnut 1 day ago
@lisztnut have to marry him. If we married all the people we 'love', why can't we marry our own sisters or uncles? Children need both a father and a mother or an enviroment showing favor toward real marriage because they experience each genders qualities which helps bring their own qualities out.
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@philipmarie1854 and, you're quite mistaken about parenting. Multiple studies on three continents have shown that gays are not only equal to straights at raising kids, but some studies show that we're SUPERIOR to straights at raising kids. The government of Canada did the most comprehensive study, and it showed that gays were better at raising children. Google: Lesbian Parents Better at Raising Kids, Sunday Times (London, UK). 2009
lisztnut 1 day ago
@lisztnut Go fuck yourself. Who raised this generation? Did you gays do it? No you didn't you were too busy being asshats towards heterosexuals and initiating the sexual revolution to give a damn. Did you care if you insulted the billions of families that have been raising children during all these thousand years? No you didn't so go fuck yourself. We oppose homosexual 'marriage' because it masculanizes girls and makes boys effeminate and makes them more likely to explore homosexuality.
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StevenJKpower 1 day ago
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@philipmarie1854
"We oppose homosexual 'marriage' because it masculanizes girls and makes boys effeminate and makes them more likely to explore homosexuality."
If that's the case, then every gay person who was raised by a straight couple wouldn't be gay. As a homosexual raised by an opposite sex, mormon couple, I think it's safe to say your logic fails. You don't catch a 'gay' disease. You either like the same sex or you don't.
StevenJKpower 1 day ago
@StevenJKpower I never said that being gay is a disease. The thing is, I don't think homosexuality exists as a sex. Are gay people mentally ill then for not lusting after the opposite sex? NO! Neither should they be forced to lust after the diffirent sex (although if a gay man doesn't want to talk with straight women because he finds them apprehensive, well, he's being spcially awkward and thats not good obviously). To us, the only way a man can be 'born' gay is if he is born with certain
philipmarie1854 1 day ago
@StevenJKpower hormones that make him lust after the same sex. Its the same with bisexuals, only they lust after both sexes and that is truly sick. The same with pedophiles. I'm not saying homosexuals are on the same level as pedos, FAR from it as I know a gay person myself who loves us to death. But not all pedohpiles are mentally ill and not all pedophiles actually harm children. How many men are there who find teenagers attractive yet would never bring themselves to harm them? How many people
philipmarie1854 1 day ago
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@philipmarie1854 you would know about pedophiles, being a Catholic priest. 80 percent of Catholic preists lust after children.
lisztnut 1 day ago
@StevenJKpower struggle with their whole might to not fanatsize about children? The actions of some Christians towards gay people is deplorable but if they simply oppose homosexual marriage because it threatens the way society functions on the fmaily, I'm with them. If we oppose homosexual 'marriage', we also oppose divorce and abortion.
Thats our view: homosexuality is simply lust. There are gays who marry the opposite sex because they find true love there yet still struggle with their tempt
philipmarie1854 1 day ago
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I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to stop you right there. To me, my relationship with my boyfriend is anything but a product of lust. When he's sick I take care of him, when he's sad I console him, and there are even times when we don't want sex-- we just want to cuddle. And I personally hate cuddling, so that IS something special. He also does the same for me.
StevenJKpower 1 day ago
@StevenJKpower thank you for putting this pedophile priest in his place. I can't believe that idiots such as him are so misinformed. But, he lives in an uncivilized and uncultured place (Malta), so I suppose we should consider the source. The nerve of idiots like that to say that our relationships are based on lust. It truly pisses me off. I've been married to my same sex spouse for four years, and we've been together for ten years. Our marriage is not based on lust.
lisztnut 1 day ago
@StevenJKpower Sorry if I offended and this will offend you for sure but, setting aside the outside of marriage argument, while there is NOTHING (as too many saints did it) wrong in taking care of a friend or holding his hand in times of crisis or hugging each other for comfort or to show affection, we just oppose gay 'marriage' (and abortion. And pre-marital sex. And contraception) because of the effects it will have people's perception of morality. We oppose it because it is unnatural in the
philipmarie1854 1 day ago
@philipmarie1854
That's the thing though. These are your standards that you should uphold, and not impose on anybody else. Canada has allowed same sex marriage, and their country isn't any more fucked up than ours. The same goes for certain European countries.
StevenJKpower 1 day ago
@StevenJKpower sense not that people can't love someone of the same sex or be life partners (search heterosexual life partners on TV tropes, heterosexual used loosely here) but in the same way a cousin loves a cousin or a brother loves a sister. We don't think wanting a same sex friend to be happy is bad, just that homosexual marriage is bad both for the children and the things they'll be brought up to believe (and not indeed because they're more likely to be abused. Homosexuals are JUST AS
philipmarie1854 1 day ago
@StevenJKpower LIKELY to abuse children as heterosexuals or anyone else), because it opens the door for other abuses like polygamy (how many homosexuals PRAISED Thomas Beatie, the world's first pregnant 'man' instead of being disgusted at the emberassment he may bring to her kid? Because Beatie is not a man; she didn't even remove her genitalia and only took hormones to grow a beard) and polyamory. No, you can't love more than one person with the same love you're supposed to hold for your spouse
philipmarie1854 1 day ago
@StevenJKpower It just doesn't work. Either you give yourself to one person or you give yourself to none. And about cuddling not being wrong: society, even mediaval soceity, had diffirent standards about what is modest and what is not. For example, going nude in times of necassity wasn't seen as actually bad as long as the purpose wasn't sexual. Low necks instead of being seen as a sign of lust were seen as sign of nobility. The French even kiss each other as a greeting.
philipmarie1854 1 day ago
@philipmarie1854
I brought this up, because you were claiming that homosexuality is a product of lust. When the things I do for my boyfriend aren't sexual. When you 'lust' after someone, it's purely sexual attraction, which would imply that it was purely sexual escapades. I'm saying that my relationship with my boyfriend isn't lust, because it isn't always sexual.
StevenJKpower 1 day ago
@StevenJKpower Good. You're better than most gays who have handfuls of partners. But the point is loving a person doesn't make one a homosexual. Thats our argument.
philipmarie1854 1 day ago
@StevenJKpower Thats my argument. People shouldn't cuddle others of the same sex in a sexual way (I say this without knowing you of course) but as a way to comfort another. There are men who literally hold their wife's breasts for comfort when they're depressed and aren't turned on in the least; to them, its a sign of affection as the breast isn't exactly sexual. I'll just tell you this: if you have a relative or a friend who insults you because you're gya, ignore them. I say this as an ultra-
philipmarie1854 1 day ago
@StevenJKpower conservative Catholic who opposes both gay marriage, abortion, modernism and what not. Just be careful in life and love and don't have contempt on heterosexual people, be they devout Christians or not. The Blessed Virgin doesn't laugh at sinners when they're down, She helps them back up and a lot f these devout people need help, just as a lot of gays need help in being secure about themselves and accepting who they are without without looking like idiots.
philipmarie1854 1 day ago
@philipmarie1854
I like to make blanket judgments on hundreds of thousands of people based on a tiny handful of examples, too. Bigotry is fun!
AntitheistPOV 21 hours ago
@AntitheistPOV Well fuck you then. I'm not condemning all gays, I'm just going against those who are promicous and are effeminate or butch lesbians in order to lead them away from their insecurities and the bad life they're leading.I oppose gay marriage because of various reasons, not because I think all gays are pedophiles. Bigotry is when you redouble your efforts after losing your aim and anti-theists like you are just like that: you pretend to do good by bashing everything Christian.
philipmarie1854 13 hours ago
@philipmarie1854 Can I ask why you're against gay marriage?
MrBillybear91 6 hours ago
@MrBillybear91 I already said why! If you want more details, read my comments on this page. You can search any comment of any page by clicking Edit in your menu bar, choosing 'Find on this page' and typing my username in the ensuing search bar. Or, you can press Ctrl+F to be quick. In short, I oppose it because of the bad effect it would have on children and their perception of marriage, because it is unnatural and ebcause spousal love only exists between a man and a woman.
philipmarie1854 6 hours ago
@philipmarie1854 Well I'm glad you disagree but non the least the country was suppose to be one of freedom. You have the right to disagree but you do not have the right to take someone elses freedom away. But recently I do not belief this is a free country it's more like your only free if you walk, talk, and act like me. Kinda sad really. But here is a suggestion remove marriage from state law and only have it in churches. If you want benefits then sign a joint union sounds fair?
House1Mouse0 1 hour ago
@philipmarie1854
You have however made several points, most gay people do in fact give in to lust. Yet so do straight people. Homosexuality may be more affiliated with lust, but what can you expect, when you have a society that ostracizes the subject, and doesn't offer much education, to the point where homosexuals don't KNOW how to act in a situation?
StevenJKpower 1 day ago
@StevenJKpower True a lot of straight people give in to lust outside of marriage and should be ashamed of themselves yet I don't blame society for not providing sex education; I blame it for GLORIFYING FREE SEX as something good. Seriously man, how many teen pregancies do you tihnk ar ehte result of teens cecking porn off the internet?
philipmarie1854 1 day ago
@philipmarie1854
Porn is not sex education though. Porn is a fantasy, so that's a terrible example.
StevenJKpower 1 day ago
@StevenJKpower Of course, thts why people need help in knowing what true love is.
philipmarie1854 1 day ago
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@philipmarie1854 no, homosexuality isn't lust, you moron. Homosexuality is a naturally occurring sexual orientation just like heterosexuality. It exists for a biological purpose and has always existed in humans and animals. Humans are the only species which make a moral judgement about this issue, which isn't a moral issue. You religious people are idiots.
lisztnut 1 day ago
@StevenJKpower ations regarding the same sex, in much the same way spouses struggle with facying other non-married people. Its easy to avoid adultery but its not easy to avoid lusty smiles. I don't mean to offend but homosexual marriage is as acceptable as polygamy and intermarrying- it brings bad misconceptions on children even if it does not mentally scar them. You can love a person as a brother or sister, you can admire a person for being handosme or beautiful even if he is of the same sex
philipmarie1854 1 day ago
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@philipmarie1854 try to get some education, instead of spouting off bullshit you learned in church. The church is not a scientific organization and their teachings on homosexuality are dead wrong.
lisztnut 1 day ago
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@philipmarie1854 bullshit, gay marriage is not a negative influence on children. There are gay children, too, asshole, and they should know that they can eventually grow up and marry the person they love.
lisztnut 1 day ago
@StevenJKpower but you can't marry a person of the same sex because homosexual 'marriage' isn't based on true love but lust. A study made by two university of Claifornia teachers and which looked at over TWENTY YEARS of homosexual studies found that yes, children are more likely to explore homosexuality if they are raised in such 'relationships', just as gay children are more likely to question their sexuality when raised by straight couples
philipmarie1854 1 day ago
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@philipmarie1854 no, this is patently FALSE. Children of gay parents are not more likely to explore gay sex. I live in California, and you are reading nonsense. This is NOT true. It has been proven to be false. And, if you've read that gay people live shorter lives, this is also FALSE.
lisztnut 1 day ago
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@philipmarie1854 a child's home environment plays NO role in their sexual orientation. I was raised by Christian Evangelicals and had NO exposure to anything that was remotely homosexual. I knew I was homosexual from my earliest memories, despite having no idea that there were "other' gay people in the world.
lisztnut 1 day ago
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@philipmarie1854 you are operating on completely lack of education, and it's disgraceful that you have the nerve to spout off such bullshit.
lisztnut 1 day ago
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@philipmarie1854 homosexuality is no more a moral issue than is left handedness or red hair. Just because something is the minority, does not make it immoral, you idiot.
lisztnut 1 day ago
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It's time this paranoia really stops. If your kid is going to be gay, then he's going to be gay whether you accept it or not. Hopefully you will love your own child enough, to support him/her, instead of being the parent that contributes to the suicide rate of homosexual teens.
StevenJKpower 1 day ago
@StevenJKpower True, but homosexuals commit suicide also because some of them feel insecure about themselves without any help of their parents. Not all gays come from religious families you know. If my child told me he's gay, I'd tell him that I'll accept him but that he must not be promiscious or filthy, you know, the same things orinary people tell their own straight children in order to preserve their lives. I'd TELL him (not force him) and try to convince him why homosexual marriage is wrong
philipmarie1854 1 day ago
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@philipmarie1854 no, homosexuals commit suicide because of assholes like YOU, who make a moral judgement about something the child has no control over. And, you're such a moron, you'd tell a son that he can't be "promiscuous?" WTF? You assume that gay people are promiscuous and yet 80 percent of married straight couples admit to infidelity?
lisztnut 1 day ago
@StevenJKpower and that he can love his same sex friends as a brother or sister and encourage him to not be depressed and what not. I'd tell him as I would tell my straight children to examine their conscience and see if their thoughts about marriage are real and sincere and not based on lust (you know, like Edward and Bella? Screw you Stephanie Meyer!)
philipmarie1854 1 day ago
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@philipmarie1854 face it, there is no acceptable reason to oppose gay marriage. Marriage is a legal matter and has nothing to do with any religious groups. In France, religious marriage isn't legal.
lisztnut 1 day ago
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@philipmarie1854 any parent that tells a child they are a sinner because they were born a certain way does not deserve to be a parent. PERIOD! It is child abuse to tell a gay child that he's a sinner because of something so fundamental to his being as his sexuality. SHAMEFUL! In Alberta, Canada it is now illegal to teach that homosexuality is a sin even in church schools.
lisztnut 1 day ago
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Did you mark lisztnut comments as spam? They were not spam. To mark someones comments as spam because they aren't homophobic is absolutely ridiculous. Nothing but ignorance I'm afraid.
SamCoreJ 1 day ago
@SamCoreJ I honestly didn't. I dídn't even remove some other guys comments and neither do I know how to remove comments. Admittedly, lisztnut's comments are rather mean spirited and angry, telling us that gays are better parents (livescience can go jump off a cliff for being shit) or wanting to harm me and calling all Catholic pedohpiles with an e-mail he sent me but I didn't flag his comments. Does that make me a better person?
'awkward silence'
philipmarie1854 1 day ago
@SamCoreJ If I did what you said, then all the comments that aren't from me on this page would be flagged, even though they are often filled with anti-christian rhetoric that goes beyond criticism.
philipmarie1854 1 day ago