I'v never tried to play 16th's as an exersize with my left hand where my right is playing 8th's Thankyou very much for sharing your wonderfull tallent with the rest of us..
Also the black panther,wich now, was the first time I'v heard one till now.
lol is it true that nickelback's drummers daniel loves using ghost notes, i hear them in lots of their songs and even the one song he played for another band Theory of a Deadman's Santa Monica..
Did'nt say it because I ran out of space in the comment box... but though not my style of drumming, I really like what you do and the way you explain it... You do clinics?? If so, you should definitely hit up Drum Bazar in Montreal if you're in the area... They're a nice bunch and the hold very interesting clinics now and then!!
That's interesting, thanks for the tip! I haven't heard of the the Drum Bazar before. I do clinics and masterclasses but mainly here on the west coast. I'm gonna check it out.
i have just one question i just get half an hour or an hour and i don't know how do i improve my whole drumming skills and i dont know what to play when people askj for me to to play ? helpppp
Oh wow, that's a really broad question. I think you would be better off to book a few private lessons with a good drum teacher in your area. This is impossible to answer via mail.
Hey you never answer the question about the sound proofing, as a few people have asked and no reply. Im wondering. My band, Falling From Fallacy (check em out!) recently recorded in a home studio and the guy had the same amount of sound proofing above his computer monitor. How exactly is that small amount effective, since I've seen others use it in that little amount?
Sorry about that, I get lots of email on a daily basis, sometimes I just miss some, especially when I travel. The general idea is to break sound waves. You can do this in a big way, all the way up to a totally dead room, or small amounts to keep the waves under control just a little bit. It all depends on what you want to achieve. If I would plaster all my walls with them, the room would be super dead, so the drums would sound much different.
Ah I see. So its not really there for sound proofing to deaden the noise for the outside but more to catch the reverberation of the drums? Another question. Is sound proofing usually found at a music store or is it something you can find in most stores? And how much?
Yes, that's right. The panels I use in my room are the professional ones, they cost about 50 Dollars for 1 square meter. That's just for the foam, I made the frame myself. But you can use cheaper materials as well, it just won't look as good and of course don't work that well either, but good enough for home recordings. Studios spend a lot of money on sound proofing, check out some videos about the topic here on you tube.
@Jungleritter If I may chime in here... We used old cubicle partitions from a office surplus supplier in town... Can't remember how much we paid for them, but they were the ones with coffee stains and fuzzy worn corners... so, CHEAP!! They did a great job of cutting down the echo in the room and we could move them out of the way when we needed. Really soundproofing a room is a whole other game!!
I have two mobile walls like this in my studio to roll them around wherever I need them. Cheap material does the job quite often, it doesn't always have to be fancy and expensive.
I find it really hard to keep an 8th note hihat going whilst playing 16th note snare, is there any special technique to help this or is it just lots of practice??
That just comes down to practice. Coordination is not related to tempo, so you can practice these things really slowly, which makes it way easier. Take your time, it'll get much better and easier with practice.
Ich habe nicht alles auf einmal gekauft, sondern im Laufe von vielen Jahren. Ich wuerde mal schaetzen so 7000 Euro vielleicht? Die Brady snare drum kostet schon ca. 900 Euro und die Becken kosten alle recht viel. Ist schon eine gute Idee alles nacheinander zu kaufen :-)
That's a 14" Brady from Australia. They use a certain type of Australian wood for this drum but I can't remember what the name of the wood is :-) Tha'ts a really nice snare drum, sounds great no matter what style and tuning.
i dont know if anyone here can relate to this, but ghost notes came naturally to me... within the first week of getting my hand on a kit i was practising a standard 4/4 beat and i get really into it, i just found myself adding little taps... On the other side of the spectrum, im no natural with rudiments, god damn i hate rudiments, but ghostnotes have always been groove rather than technique for me.... of course we're all different, groove on....
whats the thingy behind that dude? is that a back rest shit or something or just for soundproofing,and if sounproofing for what?i mean that shit is small
@latem777 It could be for sound 'treatment' and not actually sound proofing. A lot of people say for the best balance of reverb you should be specific about where you use the stuff, and not just use a lot. If you completely cover the walls you will have good sound 'proofing' but the room will sound 'dead', or completely lack any reverb. Not saying I would complain with my drum room being completely covered though lol.
by the way dude in america ghost notes arent played!!! the look like they are notes but the make no sound!!!! thats the point they are there but they arent they are Ghosts!!! try playing the accents without hitting the drum!
This might sound funny, but I actually want to STOP doing ghost notes. Ever since i learned i got in the habit of doing it and i cant stop adding ghost notes in every jam session and it annoys the hell out of me... haha
@Fuckraphiphoptechno make them so quiet they aren't heard. or just hold back, stay in the pocket. you can see on lots of live performances / mic'd snares that the drummers are doing way more and only stronger things are audible through the mix, and the compressor. I'd say make them as absolutely quiet as possible just for the fuck of it.
@Fuckraphiphoptechno I personally think ghost notes add a lot more flavor to your playing, but I actually get where you're coming from. Sometimes it's best to just be a little more laid back and simplistic.
The volume of tap/soft/ghost notes always depends on the music style. If you think of a Steely Dan song, you would play them very soft, if you think of a hard funk song (chili peppers for ex.) you would play them in a more audible way. The approach here is extreme (hence the title of the vid), that's why they are played louder than "usual" ghost notes.
Oh yeah, taste, how could I forget to mention that one, hahaha. And also, the instrumentation in the band. A distorted guitar in the band requires louder ghost notes than an acoustic setting of course.
@Jungleritter danke sehr! , ich denke dass der Klang der kleinen Trommel, ist sehr schön, wenn sie gemisch , Danke von England . Entschuldigen Sie mein Deutsch :)
Great stick control! Would like to know about your kit - especially your snare drums. Also, could you give me some advice on snare drum tuning? Can't seem to make my snare sound like yours.....
Hi, my kit is a Pearl Masters Custom, the snares are a 14" Brady, a 10" Mapex Black Panther and a 10" Sonor Jungle Snare. My snare drums are both tuned quite high. I like the cracking sound, it fitsD&B music very well and I like the high tension/playability as well. I use a Evans G1 on top of the Brady. The Brady is quite an expensive snare drum, I think I paid 1200 Dollars, you can hear the quality of that drum. Besides the high tension there's nothing special to the way I tune it. Cheers
when I try to do ghost notes I can't seem quite get it to sound like yours in terms of as if you were doing a drum roll it always seems overly accented but I don't know if I can hit the snare any softer and it still be audible haha perhaps I need a different snare head I use EVANS Genra HD Dry
Hi, it's certainly not the drumhead (I use the same head on my snare). I can't really say without seeing you play but I guess you just have to practice it more often, feel free to send me a link of a video and I will check it out, ok?
@ned2one Hay, I have a suggestion to your struggle. My suggestions to you are: play simultaneous (flams) 8th notes with both hands then 16th notes, building up speed and really look at what both hands are doing and try observing of how they feel too, rebound etc... Next do a single stroke role then start taking the right hand out and see how long you can last. Another suggestion is making sure your nuckles are horizontal no thumb pointing out. Also try on a harder surface much more rebound.
The idea is simple: You basically think of playing all sixteen 16th notes as ghost notes on any given groove. Then just don't play the ones that would line up with the bass drum and snare drum notes. But keep playing all of the others. So all the spaces between your snare and bass drum are gonna be filled with ghostnotes while you keep playing 8th notes on your hi-hat (or other hi-hat figures, doesn't really matter). Does that help?
The placement of a ghost note right before a snare accent is definitely the hardest to play. You will improve depending on how much time you'll spend practicing it, there's not really a shortcut with a special technique.
When finally one realizes that all the techniques learned to fill every last empty space of silence are pretty much useless because, like writing, percussion is the art of leaving things out.
Ich bin mit dem Tempo runtergegangen und wieder hoch, das nehmen mir manche Leute uebel. Ich mache dass oft wenn ich alleine spiele, in einer Band natuerlich nicht :-)
@Jungleritter ich nehm dir gar nichts übel :) bei dem Groove am Anfang hinken die Ghosts nur manchmal etwas nach... spielst du mit Fingern oder mehr mit Moeller wenn man fragen darf?
Kommt auf die Figur drauf an, oft benutze ich einen Mix von beiden Techniken. Es ist auch unterschiedlich wo man spielt, auf der Snare benutze ich gerne mehr Finger, auf der Hi-Hat und Toms mehr Moeller, haengt halt vom Rebound ab.
Nun, eine nette Cymbal-Auswahl haste ja ;-) Ich hab mich vor einigen Jahren weitestgehend auf Anatolian festgelegt, gerade aus dem Grund, weil ich mit diesen Becken NICHT bei jeder Genre-Änderung direkt alle Cymbals austauschen musst, wegen der genialen Klangvielfalt. Nur ist man mit einem kompletten "Wunschsatz" auch ohne Probleme 2.000€ los.Unter anderem auf der DVD "World of Groove" von Ralf Gustke kannst du den Sound der Cymbals ausgiebig probehören. Frohes Fest im traumhaft schönen Kanada!
Ich hab recht viele Becken am Set und wechsele sie auch noch recht haeufig je nachdem was ich spiele. Auf meiner Webseite ist eine komplette Auflistung mit allem was ich benutze, vielleicht kannst du dir das mal Anschauen unter drumgate . com / equipment list.
Die Side Snare ist ein 10" Mapex Black Panther. Die Anatolian klingen bestimmt klasse, haette ich auch gerne :-)) Gruesse aus Kanada
It depends. A mix of finger and wrist for a string of notes like three's or four's. Only wrist for single notes and sometimes doubles too, depends on the tempo as well! There's more control at slow tempos when you use only your wrist.
@minkusink6 If you like fast and "clean" ghostnotes and "drum-microcosm" -----> Check out Johnny Rabb XD
@Jungleritter Nettes Video und danke! Gibt zu wenige deutsche Drummer, die sich die Zeit nehmen Videos online zu stellen. Der Sound der linken Snare gefällt mir! Was ist das für eine? Geht klanglich nen bissl in Richtung Musashi. Was für Cymbals benutzt du? Ich seit längerem die Ralf Gustke Serie von Anatolian (extrem geiler Sound).....
You are actually wrong about what a grace note is. A grace note by definition is a note that has no rhythmic value. For instance if you look at a flam or a drag. Those tiny notes you see attached to the main note are grace notes. They carry no rhythmic value and thats why you count the second or "louder" hand and not the first hit or "quieter" hand.
As for ghost notes. Im pretty sure your wrong but I cant prove it now so I wont argue there.
You are actually wrong about what a grace note is. A grace note by definition is a note that has no rhythmic value. For instance if you look at a flam or a drag. Those tiny notes you see attached to the main note are grace notes. They carry no rhythmic value and thats why you count the second or "louder" hand and not the first hit or "quieter" hand.
As for ghost notes. Im pretty sure your wrong but I cant prove it now so I wont argue there.
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OK for the last time Ghost notes are NOT soft notes they are notes that you pretend to hit the drum but don't actually hit the drum. (It's a visuals thing) They were an east coast drum corps thing started by great lines such as the Boston Crusaders. What this guy is showing you are called GRACE notes. good drummer but get your terminology right please.
You know, you might be right on that when it comes to the original meaning of the term ghostnote, but the thing is, drumset players have been using this term (ghost note, soft note or tap note) for a long time. Nowadays, a grace note refers to the smaller note you hit before the main note when playing a flam. Check out David Garibaldi's work for example, he clearly talks about ghost notes and there are many many others. Open for discussion I guess :-) Cheers Ydna
@flammaster Terminology depends on the discipline you are studying. The drum corps world and drum set world, although have a lot in common, are quite different. Therefor its safe to say, what you think is universal terminology, ends up being only one way to explain something. Be open minded bro
@flammaster As a drumcorps-style tenor player, I completely agree with you. Ghosting is alot of arm and no contact with the drumhead. However, in the context of D'n'B, ghost notes are extremely soft notes, meant to fill in empty space and keep the groove going. Since ghost notes can be played by themselves, they aren't regarded as grace notes.
Pretty basic and classic setup: Shure 57 on Snares, AKG 112 on Kick, Sennheisers e604 on Toms, and Rode 1´s and 5`s on Hi-Hat, Ride and Overhead. Good quality mics but nothing really expensive or fancy.
I absolutely love the lesson tho, it shows truly how kids can make ghost notes very effectively work in almost genre. I myself typically play metal/post-hardcore style of drumming and I praise u for this video as it definitely helped me get my ghost noting under control which a lot of people don't realize is difficult to do....thanx!
I have to agree with YouSpamTard, as far as I know, and I've had lessons with some of the greatest, ghost notes are just that "ghost" notes in that they can barely be heard and add small accents in between rhythms that are going on amongst other limbs. The only discrepancy I had was that yes they can in fact be counted in time, but unless your playing just the snare track or listen VERY CAREFULLY to certain recordings, your prob not going to be able to hear each and every single little ghost n
there is no ghost anything, all there is, is a weird idiotically complicated, heavily accented, bullshit rhythm, ghost means ghost, they dont call them ghost notes for nothing, ghost notes are usually so small and minute, they really cant be heard, only add texture to sound, texture in time, also, usually they are put in places of musical time which can't even be accurately counted as something that exists in time, this is their function, to be ghost, literally and figuratively speaking, GL :)
Hard to criticize some one as good as you, however your gostnotes could be a little softer. check the ultimate jazz album Steps Ahead with Peter Erskine.
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rapfunkadelico 2 days ago
This made me want to learn, I shall begin practising tomorrow.
Thank you.
HrSuraci 1 week ago
Really tight. You're like the producers' wet dream - won't take many takes.
SwedishBerzerker 3 weeks ago
Seriously, good job. Your chops are rock solid.
SonorSonicFan 2 months ago
Thanks a lot :-)
Jungleritter 2 months ago
@SonorSonicFan
I'v never tried to play 16th's as an exersize with my left hand where my right is playing 8th's Thankyou very much for sharing your wonderfull tallent with the rest of us..
Also the black panther,wich now, was the first time I'v heard one till now.
Revampt67 1 month ago
lol is it true that nickelback's drummers daniel loves using ghost notes, i hear them in lots of their songs and even the one song he played for another band Theory of a Deadman's Santa Monica..
EvilN00ber 3 months ago
It sounds like Bill Bruford :D
FunK0Slap0GB 3 months ago
Wow. that side snare is absolutley amazing. what kind is it?
maxlikedrums 3 months ago 2
That's a 10" Mapex Black Panther
Jungleritter 3 months ago 5
@maxlikedrums Whoop ass snare :D
fortrezzdaman 1 month ago
@maxlikedrums .... what snare drum is it ??
WtFdudeify 1 month ago
Ten film jest chyba jeszcze przed wypadkiem Roberta. Nie sądziłem że Kubica tak dobrze radził sobie za bębnami. Ciekawe jak będzie teraz... ;/
TheMqy 3 months ago
Did'nt say it because I ran out of space in the comment box... but though not my style of drumming, I really like what you do and the way you explain it... You do clinics?? If so, you should definitely hit up Drum Bazar in Montreal if you're in the area... They're a nice bunch and the hold very interesting clinics now and then!!
G60syncro 3 months ago
That's interesting, thanks for the tip! I haven't heard of the the Drum Bazar before. I do clinics and masterclasses but mainly here on the west coast. I'm gonna check it out.
Cheers
Ydna
Jungleritter 3 months ago
i have just one question i just get half an hour or an hour and i don't know how do i improve my whole drumming skills and i dont know what to play when people askj for me to to play ? helpppp
ashish4211 4 months ago
Oh wow, that's a really broad question. I think you would be better off to book a few private lessons with a good drum teacher in your area. This is impossible to answer via mail.
All the best
Ydna
Jungleritter 4 months ago
@ashish4211 play along with a song you like, make sure the song(s) you choose have drums in them
Gonthor1000 3 months ago
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Gonthor1000 3 months ago
Hey you never answer the question about the sound proofing, as a few people have asked and no reply. Im wondering. My band, Falling From Fallacy (check em out!) recently recorded in a home studio and the guy had the same amount of sound proofing above his computer monitor. How exactly is that small amount effective, since I've seen others use it in that little amount?
tcookie12 4 months ago
Sorry about that, I get lots of email on a daily basis, sometimes I just miss some, especially when I travel. The general idea is to break sound waves. You can do this in a big way, all the way up to a totally dead room, or small amounts to keep the waves under control just a little bit. It all depends on what you want to achieve. If I would plaster all my walls with them, the room would be super dead, so the drums would sound much different.
Take care
Ydna
Jungleritter 4 months ago
@Jungleritter
Ah I see. So its not really there for sound proofing to deaden the noise for the outside but more to catch the reverberation of the drums? Another question. Is sound proofing usually found at a music store or is it something you can find in most stores? And how much?
tcookie12 4 months ago
Yes, that's right. The panels I use in my room are the professional ones, they cost about 50 Dollars for 1 square meter. That's just for the foam, I made the frame myself. But you can use cheaper materials as well, it just won't look as good and of course don't work that well either, but good enough for home recordings. Studios spend a lot of money on sound proofing, check out some videos about the topic here on you tube.
Cheers
Ydna
Jungleritter 4 months ago
@Jungleritter If I may chime in here... We used old cubicle partitions from a office surplus supplier in town... Can't remember how much we paid for them, but they were the ones with coffee stains and fuzzy worn corners... so, CHEAP!! They did a great job of cutting down the echo in the room and we could move them out of the way when we needed. Really soundproofing a room is a whole other game!!
G60syncro 3 months ago
I have two mobile walls like this in my studio to roll them around wherever I need them. Cheap material does the job quite often, it doesn't always have to be fancy and expensive.
Jungleritter 3 months ago
I find it really hard to keep an 8th note hihat going whilst playing 16th note snare, is there any special technique to help this or is it just lots of practice??
VenomFourProductions 5 months ago
That just comes down to practice. Coordination is not related to tempo, so you can practice these things really slowly, which makes it way easier. Take your time, it'll get much better and easier with practice.
Cheers
Ydna
Jungleritter 5 months ago
kannst du deutsch?
saluma33 5 months ago
Ja, ich bin aus Deutschland, lebe aber schon seit ca. 6 Jahren in Kanada
Viele Gruesse
Ydna
Jungleritter 5 months ago
@Jungleritter kannst du mir vlt sagen wie teuer das schlagzeug mit allem ist ?
danke im voraus
saluma33 5 months ago
Ich habe nicht alles auf einmal gekauft, sondern im Laufe von vielen Jahren. Ich wuerde mal schaetzen so 7000 Euro vielleicht? Die Brady snare drum kostet schon ca. 900 Euro und die Becken kosten alle recht viel. Ist schon eine gute Idee alles nacheinander zu kaufen :-)
Jungleritter 5 months ago
@Jungleritter okey danke viel mal :)
saluma33 5 months ago
great video! very informative, im gonna subscribe and your gonna be my teacher :) by the way, do you have any endorsements?
omegasdoom 6 months ago
Thanks mate, I appreciate it :-) I'm not endorsed by a drum company.
Jungleritter 6 months ago
Thanks! Sound great by the way keep it up!!
thenukacola7 6 months ago
what kind of hihats are those?
thenukacola7 6 months ago
These are 13" Zildijan K's
Jungleritter 6 months ago
i'm already trying to play ghost notes as in the begining of the video.......but my left hand and fingers just don't wanna move!!!!! asleep!
75Tatanka 6 months ago
Dillinger Escape Plan
williewpg 6 months ago
what is the main snare? Could you describe it please?
Anarchismo 7 months ago
That's a 14" Brady from Australia. They use a certain type of Australian wood for this drum but I can't remember what the name of the wood is :-) Tha'ts a really nice snare drum, sounds great no matter what style and tuning.
Jungleritter 7 months ago
@Jungleritter Thanx man!
Anarchismo 7 months ago
Thanks :-) It's a 10" Mapex Black Panther / wood
Jungleritter 7 months ago
i dont know if anyone here can relate to this, but ghost notes came naturally to me... within the first week of getting my hand on a kit i was practising a standard 4/4 beat and i get really into it, i just found myself adding little taps... On the other side of the spectrum, im no natural with rudiments, god damn i hate rudiments, but ghostnotes have always been groove rather than technique for me.... of course we're all different, groove on....
3787811 7 months ago
whats the thingy behind that dude? is that a back rest shit or something or just for soundproofing,and if sounproofing for what?i mean that shit is small
latem777 7 months ago
@latem777 It could be for sound 'treatment' and not actually sound proofing. A lot of people say for the best balance of reverb you should be specific about where you use the stuff, and not just use a lot. If you completely cover the walls you will have good sound 'proofing' but the room will sound 'dead', or completely lack any reverb. Not saying I would complain with my drum room being completely covered though lol.
shawnschonsmith 6 months ago
The first time I heard of ghost notes was in a video with Chad Smith. From then on I've never been able to stop using them. It's an addiction.
MrRenealexis 7 months ago
Chad Smith is a great example for using ghost notes in a most musical way...
Jungleritter 7 months ago
how is 1:15 ghost notes hahaha
trecoolmania 8 months ago
1:15 is an extreme ghostnote, hahaha
Jungleritter 8 months ago 20
by the way dude in america ghost notes arent played!!! the look like they are notes but the make no sound!!!! thats the point they are there but they arent they are Ghosts!!! try playing the accents without hitting the drum!
coffiemachine68 8 months ago
More Piano !
MrMaxira 8 months ago
This might sound funny, but I actually want to STOP doing ghost notes. Ever since i learned i got in the habit of doing it and i cant stop adding ghost notes in every jam session and it annoys the hell out of me... haha
Fuckraphiphoptechno 8 months ago 8
Oh yeah, I hear you, sometimes they are great, sometimes they simply suck, it's a matter of taste to know when to use them.
Cheers
Ydna
Jungleritter 8 months ago
@Fuckraphiphoptechno
Same, I can't just play a simple beat, i have to add them, doesn't boher me much :D
nubcake272 8 months ago
@Fuckraphiphoptechno make them so quiet they aren't heard. or just hold back, stay in the pocket. you can see on lots of live performances / mic'd snares that the drummers are doing way more and only stronger things are audible through the mix, and the compressor. I'd say make them as absolutely quiet as possible just for the fuck of it.
midinerd 8 months ago
@Fuckraphiphoptechno I personally think ghost notes add a lot more flavor to your playing, but I actually get where you're coming from. Sometimes it's best to just be a little more laid back and simplistic.
SubwayStar7 3 months ago
i like a lot your drumming and i have no critics but a kind of advice, Try make the ghosts notes more piano
SkieAria 9 months ago 3
The volume of tap/soft/ghost notes always depends on the music style. If you think of a Steely Dan song, you would play them very soft, if you think of a hard funk song (chili peppers for ex.) you would play them in a more audible way. The approach here is extreme (hence the title of the vid), that's why they are played louder than "usual" ghost notes.
Take care
Ydna
Jungleritter 9 months ago 4
@Jungleritter oh i see, well it's just something about taste also, i was just saying. I see you have a worked technique there :) keep it on!
SkieAria 9 months ago
Oh yeah, taste, how could I forget to mention that one, hahaha. And also, the instrumentation in the band. A distorted guitar in the band requires louder ghost notes than an acoustic setting of course.
Cheers
Ydna
Jungleritter 9 months ago
Mein Deutsch ist nicht so gut , So im Going to speak english instead :) What is that Snare your using on your left to the Hi hat ?
MeinlTamaBlastBeat 9 months ago
You're German sounds pretty good to me :-) The aux snare is a 10" Mapex Black Panther, really nice sounding snare drum.
Cheers from Canada
Ydna
Jungleritter 9 months ago
@Jungleritter danke sehr! , ich denke dass der Klang der kleinen Trommel, ist sehr schön, wenn sie gemisch , Danke von England . Entschuldigen Sie mein Deutsch :)
MeinlTamaBlastBeat 9 months ago
when i stare at your hands, you look like Jon Cryer... lol. good playing man
BittenMitten 9 months ago
Thanks :-) But who is Jon Cryer??
Jungleritter 9 months ago
@Jungleritter
haha if you haven't looked him up, he's in Two and a Half men.
BittenMitten 9 months ago
Very nice.
XDrummerSteve 9 months ago
sir, that groove was amazing. just fantastic. cheers
kevindinneen89 9 months ago
Great to hear you liked it :-)
Cheers from Canada
Ydna Murd
Jungleritter 9 months ago
great video! great material! only quibble: the suspended snare totally obscures the view of your left hand...
autodidactbreather 9 months ago
Klingt echt super Funkig!
Grüße nach Kanada!
Freshpinguin 10 months ago
Vielen Dank!
Gruesse nach Deutschland :-)
Jungleritter 10 months ago
You sound Swedish. Am I wrong? Good video.
fingerboy18 10 months ago
Close enough, I'm from Germany :-)
Thanks and Cheers from Canada, that's where I live.
Ydna
Jungleritter 10 months ago
And which Software and Interface/mixing console?
Thank you
good Sound *****
TheSmithchad 10 months ago
I record with Logic Audio. The signals run through a Mackie mixing desk, an Edirol UA 1000 Interface and several A.R.T. and Gold Mike preamps.
Thanks and Cheers
Ydna
Jungleritter 10 months ago
awesome!! absolutely helpful. I loved it..Thank you
afiftube 11 months ago
Great to hear, thanks!!
Jungleritter 11 months ago
@Jungleritter
Great stick control! Would like to know about your kit - especially your snare drums. Also, could you give me some advice on snare drum tuning? Can't seem to make my snare sound like yours.....
Thanks!
Bugimonk69 10 months ago
Hi, my kit is a Pearl Masters Custom, the snares are a 14" Brady, a 10" Mapex Black Panther and a 10" Sonor Jungle Snare. My snare drums are both tuned quite high. I like the cracking sound, it fitsD&B music very well and I like the high tension/playability as well. I use a Evans G1 on top of the Brady. The Brady is quite an expensive snare drum, I think I paid 1200 Dollars, you can hear the quality of that drum. Besides the high tension there's nothing special to the way I tune it. Cheers
Jungleritter 10 months ago
i love this concept! fill in the blanks with ghost notes lol nice playing too. check out my vids of me playing and let me know what you think :)
drumseahawk6 11 months ago
Is this what i need to learn to be able to play like Pridgen
SPVOLS 11 months ago
Pridgen uses a lot of left hand notes, so, yeah, definitely a helpful exercise to get there
Jungleritter 11 months ago
i miss drumming gonna pull out the old gretsch and play!
amptek21 11 months ago
when I try to do ghost notes I can't seem quite get it to sound like yours in terms of as if you were doing a drum roll it always seems overly accented but I don't know if I can hit the snare any softer and it still be audible haha perhaps I need a different snare head I use EVANS Genra HD Dry
ned2one 11 months ago
Hi, it's certainly not the drumhead (I use the same head on my snare). I can't really say without seeing you play but I guess you just have to practice it more often, feel free to send me a link of a video and I will check it out, ok?
Jungleritter 11 months ago
@ned2one Hay, I have a suggestion to your struggle. My suggestions to you are: play simultaneous (flams) 8th notes with both hands then 16th notes, building up speed and really look at what both hands are doing and try observing of how they feel too, rebound etc... Next do a single stroke role then start taking the right hand out and see how long you can last. Another suggestion is making sure your nuckles are horizontal no thumb pointing out. Also try on a harder surface much more rebound.
druminid 10 months ago
@druminid Thanks that was a very insightful suggestion I will definately try this out! Thanks for helpin!
ned2one 10 months ago
this is really a hard one. nice practice do.
Do you have the transcription on your site somewhere?
I cant figure out where all the ghost are at combined with 8 notes.
Any suggestion how to practice this in steps?
tillimanjaro 11 months ago
The idea is simple: You basically think of playing all sixteen 16th notes as ghost notes on any given groove. Then just don't play the ones that would line up with the bass drum and snare drum notes. But keep playing all of the others. So all the spaces between your snare and bass drum are gonna be filled with ghostnotes while you keep playing 8th notes on your hi-hat (or other hi-hat figures, doesn't really matter). Does that help?
Cheers
Ydna
Jungleritter 11 months ago
@Jungleritter
yes it did surtently.
It starting to work bit by bit(this because already had some good ghostplacement skills).
Do you have a technic for this?
I noticed the first pair of 16ths are easier then the rest to play. The last from 3 to 4 are the most dificult.
From 2 to 3 is ok, cause it bounces after the accent on 2.
Am i right?
T
tillimanjaro 11 months ago
The placement of a ghost note right before a snare accent is definitely the hardest to play. You will improve depending on how much time you'll spend practicing it, there's not really a shortcut with a special technique.
Have fun :-)
Jungleritter 11 months ago
i have send you an email
tillimanjaro 11 months ago
Caan you make a regular snare drum sound like your side snare?
TheDrumMaster1 11 months ago
You can try to tune both heads really high but besides that, there's nothing you can change due to the size of the drum.
Jungleritter 11 months ago
what is your side snare?
chocolatecookie5 11 months ago
It's a 10" Mapex Black Panther
Jungleritter 11 months ago
within the first 10 seconds, he slowed down like 10 bpm.
111spandex 1 year ago
And? As long as I don't play in a band or with a playalong, where's the problem? Time is free, were not machines :-)
Jungleritter 11 months ago 11
@Jungleritter
all I'm saying is that it would have had more of a groove it had been a little faster. other than that, it was pretty awesome!
111spandex 11 months ago
No worries :-) The exercise is great, give it a try. Picked it up from Rod Morgenstein, it's a great workout for left hand ghostnotes.
Cheers
Ydna
Jungleritter 11 months ago
I love ghost notes, good video bro, I would really love to master this technique one day..
vorrifmn 1 year ago
This is what David Garibaldi called beat layering. Excellent demonstration.
CharbelSalem 1 year ago
Props! You're my fave online instructor. This lesson is brilliant!
AlexMPruteanu 1 year ago
That's really nice to hear, thanks!!
Jungleritter 1 year ago
is awesome thanks for the lesson!!
Best regards!
mortekyle 1 year ago
When finally one realizes that all the techniques learned to fill every last empty space of silence are pretty much useless because, like writing, percussion is the art of leaving things out.
retepvosnul 1 year ago
No offence aber das wackelt irgendwie ziemlich teilweise. :<
WigridJE 1 year ago
Ich bin mit dem Tempo runtergegangen und wieder hoch, das nehmen mir manche Leute uebel. Ich mache dass oft wenn ich alleine spiele, in einer Band natuerlich nicht :-)
Viele Gruesse
Ydna
Jungleritter 1 year ago
@Jungleritter ich nehm dir gar nichts übel :) bei dem Groove am Anfang hinken die Ghosts nur manchmal etwas nach... spielst du mit Fingern oder mehr mit Moeller wenn man fragen darf?
WigridJE 1 year ago
Kommt auf die Figur drauf an, oft benutze ich einen Mix von beiden Techniken. Es ist auch unterschiedlich wo man spielt, auf der Snare benutze ich gerne mehr Finger, auf der Hi-Hat und Toms mehr Moeller, haengt halt vom Rebound ab.
Jungleritter 1 year ago
die snare hört sich an wie ein alter mülleimerdeckel...
soll das so sein?
hanfbrot 1 year ago
OH SHIT MAN THOSE GHOSTNOTES ARE EEEEXXXTRRREEEEEEMMMEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
twan1492 1 year ago
why is your china cymbol all screwed up ???
kre7708 1 year ago
Hahaha, it's not screwed up, I just like to have it that way :-)
Jungleritter 1 year ago 2
That's some fancy soundproofing you got there. :)
rollerghost615 1 year ago
Nun, eine nette Cymbal-Auswahl haste ja ;-) Ich hab mich vor einigen Jahren weitestgehend auf Anatolian festgelegt, gerade aus dem Grund, weil ich mit diesen Becken NICHT bei jeder Genre-Änderung direkt alle Cymbals austauschen musst, wegen der genialen Klangvielfalt. Nur ist man mit einem kompletten "Wunschsatz" auch ohne Probleme 2.000€ los.Unter anderem auf der DVD "World of Groove" von Ralf Gustke kannst du den Sound der Cymbals ausgiebig probehören. Frohes Fest im traumhaft schönen Kanada!
lesperancager 1 year ago
Okay die China ist jedenfalls schon mal vom Paiste XD
lesperancager 1 year ago
Ich hab recht viele Becken am Set und wechsele sie auch noch recht haeufig je nachdem was ich spiele. Auf meiner Webseite ist eine komplette Auflistung mit allem was ich benutze, vielleicht kannst du dir das mal Anschauen unter drumgate . com / equipment list.
Die Side Snare ist ein 10" Mapex Black Panther. Die Anatolian klingen bestimmt klasse, haette ich auch gerne :-)) Gruesse aus Kanada
Ydna
Jungleritter 1 year ago
are you using the finger technique for the ghost notes or just your wrists?
Hitmanfan91 1 year ago
It depends. A mix of finger and wrist for a string of notes like three's or four's. Only wrist for single notes and sometimes doubles too, depends on the tempo as well! There's more control at slow tempos when you use only your wrist.
Jungleritter 1 year ago
What drum set is this?
You sound awesome, I love the sound of everything in your kit, and the ghost notes are spot on and just what I was looking for, thank you!
ultimate0death 1 year ago
Cool, thanks a lot :-)) The drumset it s Pearl Masters Custom Maple, a Brady Snare and a Mapex Black Panther sidesnare.
Jungleritter 1 year ago
Nem rossz ez!
BrutalFero 1 year ago
hmmm doesn't sound clean to me
minkusink6 1 year ago
@minkusink6 If you like fast and "clean" ghostnotes and "drum-microcosm" -----> Check out Johnny Rabb XD
@Jungleritter Nettes Video und danke! Gibt zu wenige deutsche Drummer, die sich die Zeit nehmen Videos online zu stellen. Der Sound der linken Snare gefällt mir! Was ist das für eine? Geht klanglich nen bissl in Richtung Musashi. Was für Cymbals benutzt du? Ich seit längerem die Ralf Gustke Serie von Anatolian (extrem geiler Sound).....
lesperancager 1 year ago
I loved your videos man. I hope you don't mind if I feature them on my blog. :)
thescheminggenius 1 year ago
Yeah, that would be great :-))
Cheers
Ydna
Jungleritter 1 year ago
i love your drum solo at the end :D
boringdude23 1 year ago
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You are actually wrong about what a grace note is. A grace note by definition is a note that has no rhythmic value. For instance if you look at a flam or a drag. Those tiny notes you see attached to the main note are grace notes. They carry no rhythmic value and thats why you count the second or "louder" hand and not the first hit or "quieter" hand.
As for ghost notes. Im pretty sure your wrong but I cant prove it now so I wont argue there.
ErikStrife 1 year ago
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You are actually wrong about what a grace note is. A grace note by definition is a note that has no rhythmic value. For instance if you look at a flam or a drag. Those tiny notes you see attached to the main note are grace notes. They carry no rhythmic value and thats why you count the second or "louder" hand and not the first hit or "quieter" hand.
As for ghost notes. Im pretty sure your wrong but I cant prove it now so I wont argue there.
ErikStrife 1 year ago
en el segundo 12 como se hace eso siempre he querido saber alguien sabe
adrfabricio 1 year ago
ummm, and umm, and umm yeah, umm
jimmyhatdrummer 1 year ago
i think you did a great job bro... some subscribe to my page
Zildjian83 1 year ago
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OK for the last time Ghost notes are NOT soft notes they are notes that you pretend to hit the drum but don't actually hit the drum. (It's a visuals thing) They were an east coast drum corps thing started by great lines such as the Boston Crusaders. What this guy is showing you are called GRACE notes. good drummer but get your terminology right please.
flammaster 1 year ago
You know, you might be right on that when it comes to the original meaning of the term ghostnote, but the thing is, drumset players have been using this term (ghost note, soft note or tap note) for a long time. Nowadays, a grace note refers to the smaller note you hit before the main note when playing a flam. Check out David Garibaldi's work for example, he clearly talks about ghost notes and there are many many others. Open for discussion I guess :-) Cheers Ydna
Jungleritter 1 year ago 17
@flammaster wasted scum. ;))
sauronhall 1 year ago
@flammaster you petty bastard!
betadrum1 1 year ago
@flammaster Terminology depends on the discipline you are studying. The drum corps world and drum set world, although have a lot in common, are quite different. Therefor its safe to say, what you think is universal terminology, ends up being only one way to explain something. Be open minded bro
JimiGrilz 1 year ago
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ErikStrife 1 year ago
@flammaster As a drumcorps-style tenor player, I completely agree with you. Ghosting is alot of arm and no contact with the drumhead. However, in the context of D'n'B, ghost notes are extremely soft notes, meant to fill in empty space and keep the groove going. Since ghost notes can be played by themselves, they aren't regarded as grace notes.
xDreadxSilencex 1 year ago
Some people shoulld just not attempt ot make intructional videos .EVER !
TheChiFlows 1 year ago
Hahaha, du mich auch :-))
Jungleritter 1 year ago 6
what a left....
AriaSuvillan 1 year ago
Good technique but timing is off.
chillichomper 1 year ago
sei bravissimo complimenti!
santrine1 1 year ago
awesome..... pleasure to watch your videos.
Walkoziom 1 year ago
It´s a pleasure to read comments like this :-))
Jungleritter 1 year ago
Great sound..
which mic. do you use?
TheSmithchad 1 year ago
Pretty basic and classic setup: Shure 57 on Snares, AKG 112 on Kick, Sennheisers e604 on Toms, and Rode 1´s and 5`s on Hi-Hat, Ride and Overhead. Good quality mics but nothing really expensive or fancy.
Jungleritter 1 year ago
very nice video mate.. can u tell me what that side snare is....
bugrapekdogan 1 year ago
Thanks a lot :-))
The side snare is a 10" Mapex Black Panther
Jungleritter 1 year ago
you're such a fucking good drummer.
i wish i could do ghost notes and rolls like you.
JohnnySuckss 1 year ago
Thanx :-)) Well, I try to do my best and I enjoy almost every minute behind a drumkit. Just keep on playing/practicing and it will come
Cheers
Ydna
Jungleritter 1 year ago
He freaking slows down.
Alukart117 1 year ago 4
very helpful tnx!
MangMoso 1 year ago
Yes i fianlly found a video i can really learn n practice something with!!!
tbyn 1 year ago
That´s great, have fun!!
Jungleritter 1 year ago
Look at Keith Carlock or Dave Dicenso!!!!!!!!!! This SUCKS
drummerac3 1 year ago
almost ANY genre*
ChrisCortezMaldonado 1 year ago
I absolutely love the lesson tho, it shows truly how kids can make ghost notes very effectively work in almost genre. I myself typically play metal/post-hardcore style of drumming and I praise u for this video as it definitely helped me get my ghost noting under control which a lot of people don't realize is difficult to do....thanx!
ChrisCortezMaldonado 1 year ago
Great to hear you like the exercise idea. Have fun :-)
Ydna
Jungleritter 1 year ago
I have to agree with YouSpamTard, as far as I know, and I've had lessons with some of the greatest, ghost notes are just that "ghost" notes in that they can barely be heard and add small accents in between rhythms that are going on amongst other limbs. The only discrepancy I had was that yes they can in fact be counted in time, but unless your playing just the snare track or listen VERY CAREFULLY to certain recordings, your prob not going to be able to hear each and every single little ghost n
ChrisCortezMaldonado 1 year ago
I agree, but there´s also surely a reason I called this exercise idea "Extreme Ghostnotes" :-))
Jungleritter 1 year ago
love that smal snare, so tight !
Dguy35 1 year ago
your channel rules, man.
BlackthumbBlacklungs 1 year ago
there is no ghost anything, all there is, is a weird idiotically complicated, heavily accented, bullshit rhythm, ghost means ghost, they dont call them ghost notes for nothing, ghost notes are usually so small and minute, they really cant be heard, only add texture to sound, texture in time, also, usually they are put in places of musical time which can't even be accurately counted as something that exists in time, this is their function, to be ghost, literally and figuratively speaking, GL :)
YouSpamTard 1 year ago
this guy's sick!! keep it up!
MrYeswecan14 1 year ago
After Jojo Mayer and Johnny Rabb...Ydna Murd! YEAH MEN!
Nuel0 1 year ago
Hard to criticize some one as good as you, however your gostnotes could be a little softer. check the ultimate jazz album Steps Ahead with Peter Erskine.
kentworth100 1 year ago
is this lesson in one of your books?
Bluemiles0 1 year ago
It can be found in my Hi-Hat Master drum book.
The book is available on drumgate.com
Cheers
Ydna
Jungleritter 1 year ago
I would call this a quiet blastbeat..not ghostnote anymore.
oOoOViperOoOo 1 year ago 2
extremely good instructional video.you taught such an advance level thing so easily.keep up the good work!
asimsidd 1 year ago
Thanks a lot. I really appreciate it :-))
Cheers
Ydna Murd
Jungleritter 1 year ago
looks like there is 26 jealous peoples out there.... Dude, you are great!
crackmaster88 1 year ago
Good teacher and I enjoy your laid back approach. Keep up the good work.
earleybyrd 1 year ago