do you like being publicly defamed for the dumb shit YOU say like what I did?
I don't imagine that poor telemarketer feels any better about YOU making false accusations... except my accusations are REAL!
let me know which region you did this in and i'll pull the local penal code and explain which ones you likely violated, in my opinion and break it down for you. i might even make a video out of it for you... so you can feel the shame you tried to put on this poor, unwitting man.
@AssistingHealth Do what ever you like, but don't be so two faced about it, pretending at first to like my stuff but really being an enemy. I have no respect for you whatsoever, so just do what the hell you like. Like this twit on the phone, you need to just leave me in peace. You feel the need to stand up for someone who does something everyone hates - probably you do something equally useless and annoying for a living yourself?
@usenetposts I am not an "enemy". I am merely asking you which law he has broken and how... you accuse him of breaking a law, yet, it seems as though you have no idea what you are talking about. i will always stand up for someone that i believe was falsely accused. I just asked you a question... you keep dodging it... like a coward. it's a simple question...
@usenetposts I am not an "enemy". I am merely asking you which law he has broken and how... you accuse him of breaking a law, yet, it seems as though you have no idea what you are talking about. i will always stand up for someone that i believe was falsely accused. I just asked you a question... you keep dodging it... like a coward. it's a simple question...
@usenetposts regardless of what I do for a living (I'm working on my undergrad in psychology and pursuant of an MD [likely going to be a general practitioner]). I may become an EMT in the interim and become ACE certified to be a personal trainer. I like helping people... even if you don't like it. if you don't like this person calling, you are MORE than welcomed to hang up.
@AssistingHealth I already had done that several times before. This was the time to get even. I am usually more friendly and helpful than most to telesales people, for the record, but this company and this guy was utterly obnoxious.
@AssistingHealth "let me know which region you did this in and i'll pull the local penal code and explain which ones you likely violated" - Ha ha! what a scream you are! A few posts back you said he should "prosecute" me - showing you can't even distinguish between civil and criminal procedures, and now you claim to be an expert on all the penal codes of the world. Oh my ribs! OK, go on, then, Poland.
@AssistingHealth regardless of whether you THINK this person is "worthless" is rather irrelevant... it doesn't matter what YOU think, it matters what the PERSON PAYING HIM THINKS. that's all it takes... how ironic that you claim to have a degree in finances, yet, fail to show comprehension or a lack of disdain for the capitalist, free-market system.
also: call me as many names as you want "3-faced" "16-faced"... you can call me a pterodactyl if you like... it's all unimportant.
@AssistingHealth What the person who was paying him thinks is also worthless. I derive no economic benefit from it at all. I don't claim to have a degree in finances. I have a lot more than that.
@AssistingHealth If you admit that you are defaming me, then you are already skating on very slippery territory. You say you are going to be an MD, but I seriously hope you grow a brain before you get anywhere near any patients...
@usenetposts the degree in finances thing i may have been mistaken about... maybe you said that your JOB was in finances... then you said you speak 20 languages i believe... it was a vid of yours about lecturing... some individuals in russia, i believe? this was many months ago...
@usenetposts i know that you don't derive economic benefit... what i am saying here is all you are doing is getting nowhere dodging my original question and hoping that i give up at some point... your perseverance is respected, yet, will run out eventually. i will continually ask that question until you answer it.
law just doesn't seem to be your forte... however, language and pedagogy seem to be... very respectable.
@usenetposts opinions towards another is not an all-or-nothing game. i think your legal knowledge is naive, at best... yet your lingusitic/pedagogical skills and eBay recordings are excellent... I even recommended you to someone recently because of how entertaining you make the learning process (wonderful oratory and pedagogical skill... rather scarce in most institutions, if I might say).
your teaching is a hot commodity... not your brow-beating of a telemarketer.
@usenetposts you know nothing aboujt this man... maybe he is an alcoholic or was framed for a crime and just got out of prison and this is the only job he can get to survive or something like that... not likely, but you just never know.
you are making so many groundless assumptions, it's crazy.
and yes, my claims would be defamatory... per quod, probably... texas doesn't cover per quod.. does your region? do you think my extradition is likely if so?
@usenetposts my main point here is to be a gentleman and politely decline and hang up the phone versus trying to belittle another for doing their job (times can be tough... that person may even be in the middle of getting another job, just hasn't been hired yet... you just don't know) and proclaiming illegal activity (likely a false allegation) which in iteself, may be illegal.
@AssistingHealth I'll tell you this, if every financial person conducted themselves like me there'd be no such thing as insider trading. And I was not polite to him because he was not polite to me. I am usually fairly cordial to telesales people if they don't come across like this heavy-duty guy. There is a way to do telesales and there is a way not to do it. And since this company seems to have gone the journey I'd say the market has shown them that wasn't the way to do it.
@usenetposts oh, and my claims are only defamatory if they are FALSE. so the important thing here is... did he break the law? if you are correct, i'm defaming you... if I am correct, you are defaming him.
@AssistingHealth I don't think you know the meaning of the word ousted, along with several other words you've used in this exchange. My suggestion is if you want to know whether I am mistaken or not, at least look at the definition of insider trading - even the one which appears on wikipedia. You'll see it hinges on handling unpublished info. I *asked* him if he was going to give me unpublished info over the phone about this company traded on NASDAQ and he couldn't deny it.
i apologize for the series of posts... it seemed necessary because you don't seem to be answering a fairly simple question that I would like answered, sir.
@AssistingHealth You still didn't answer my question - namely which country's law should I even be quoting. You don't know. because you are pretty ignorant about law anyhow, as I could tell from even what you have posted so far.
@AssistingHealth Only a judge can decide if a crime is committed, of course, but I am saying that if he is passing to me unpublished information so that I can trade in it, then you tell me what country's insider dealing law that wouldn't be in breach of. It is illegal and unethical for me, as a professional accountant, to take and act on unpublished tips about a stock. If he is trying to give me "insider" tips on a stock, he is trying to make me break the law.
@usenetposts interesting... so you searched the WHOLE INTERNET and watched ALL ECONOMIC NEWS ON THE PLANET and noted that, indeed, said information was not yet published.
and, no, in crimnal cases, jurisprudence affords the "guilty/notguilty verdict" to a jury of their "peers".
the judge mostly ensures "order" than anything...
again, I said NOTHING about court, I was talking about the LAW. which section of which penal code, sir? which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?
@AssistingHealth You are talking irrelevances. I asked him if he was trying to give me price sensitive unpublished information and he couldn't answer it, so that means he was putting me in a morally dubious position. I don't care what section of what penal code it is. I leave that for the guys on the seventh floor.
@usenetposts would you please respectfully address my question and answer it, as I have been polite and respectful to you, sir.
It would be much appreciated. again: i enjoy your videos and respect your linguistic skills as an aspiring linguist myself.
However, as far as the legality of the actions of this man goes... it seems as though you were just belittling him in an unjust manner (false verbal accusations of unlawful intent and/or activities... the published on YT to be viewed by MANY.).
@AssistingHealth That's too made. I have answered your question. If you want legal advice, go ahead and get it. Legal advice is not my hobby, I don't hand it out free like linguistic advice. If a person is unable to tell me whether they are giving me unpublished info over the telephone for me to deal with or not, then they put me in a difficult position vis a vis the law.
@usenetposts@Assisting Health UK accountants have been jailed for conspiracy to insider deal and extradited to the US on little more than going along with things like this. It is absolutely right for me to say what I have said when faced with this approach, and if people don't want to be put on YT it is very easy - don't spam-call me. If you feel sorry for the person here, then fine. You be nice to him when he calls you and inveigles you into ethically dubious propositions.
@usenetposts i never said i would sue you, nor do i have the plan to do so. however, i will again, politely ask you to answer this question, if you will kindly do so:
"which section of which penal code, sir? which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
@AssistingHealth If you are genuinely interested in this and not being facile, then you first tell me, given that situation, to the law of which country (jurisprudence) should I even be referring?
@usenetposts also: i'm not even sure that i can sue on the behalf of this man... i believe that HE would be the one that would prosecute you for your potentially criminal accusations on youtube.
@usenetposts again, the JUDGE determines SENTENCING, not GUILT. the JURY is what determines the VERDICT.
also, I can't speak on his behalf... why are you pretending as though he will sue you? what is going on here? are you even paying attention? QUESTION:
"which section of which penal code, sir? which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
@AssistingHealth You see, you are doing exactly the same spam job as this moron. No wonder you have such a fellow feeling for him. You are a hopeless spammer and time-waster yourself. get back to your telesales and leave my videos in peace.
this is fairly entertaining, yet... i still fail to see the validity of your argument regarding the lawfulness (or, lack thereof) of the telemarketer's actions. you can SAY what you want... and it IS VERY entertaining. yet, which law is he breaking, and how? have you examples of a similar situation (jurisprudence) or a portion of a certain region's penal code?
I will be waiting patiently for your response. i enjoy your videos either way! :D
@AssistingHealth It's at the heart of insider dealing law that people don't trade on inside information, so if he says that he has unpublished tips that he wants me to look at, how can I tell that he is not passing on unpublished info so that I can trade in it. The way that he approached me sounds like he wanted to be an accessory to unfair trading.
@TheAmericanOriginal how was i "put in my place"? which law was being broken here under english common law or state/federal/local/et al statutes, ordinances, penal code... all that. you can SAY things all you want, but which LAW back up what you are talking about?
degrees and experience doesn't make your word gospel. a PhD with 30 years can be wrong... they are all the time. and some have the courage to admit it. i can provide links, as needed sir. thank you for your time, sir or madam.
@usenetposts oh no, i don't suggest you listen to them. often it's a small-caps investor attempting to pump-and-dump a stock(perfectly legal). which part purported to be insider information? infact, it seems as though the act of cold-calling to inform people is what MAKES said information public. usually insider trading is done in a more clandestine fashion... which this obviously is not. which bit of jurisprudence or statute/ordinance/et al do they seem to you to be breaking? i could be wrong.
@AssistingHealth The only way to be safe if you are in finance and something like an auditor is to act solely on info that has been put out in mass media.
@TheAmericanOriginal The company was in Korea, so I expect that some of them are Korean. They use American accents so that other English speaking foreigners think they have an American on the line, but it could be anyone.
@usenetposts Whoa, this Alvin Management is in Korea? I actually had no idea. I thought some sleazy American salesmen were giving my country a bad name.
Whenever I get a call from a telemarketer I like to toy with them and talk to them in a made up language or something... sometimes it confuses them so much lol I don't even have to hang up they do that within the first couple of seconds after repeating what they sid the first time... then I never hear from them again lol and if I do I just do it all again lol I act like an idiot and they leave me alone lol although its granted I'm not an idiot lol
Try videoing it sometime! People love seeing the tables turned on these timewasters. Alvin still were ringing me until the crash happened. I wonder if they are now running from people who took their tips and lost a load of money on the markets!
Yes they just called me as well. (May 20th-2008) The persons name was Michael Morris and was very slick. Same tone and same words. I really don't like the way he treated my staff to get to me (Very pushy and disrespectful)
I had Alvin Man this morning (3rd March), I cannot be sure that it was the same guy, but my assailant used the SAME tone, the SAME words, and the SAME company!! Ticker MPDD. He offered me a 10K shares at $3,35 due to hit $5,25 within 90 days. Then 5K with a fee of $150 (but how much for selling??). He even assured me he had sold these shares to his father-in-law so he must be sincere (!) Value is $3.60 today, so after the style you will be able to judge the result.
They don't like it up 'em, Drew. Another trick of mine is to start selling back at them and see who outsells the other. I'll try and do that one video, it I get the chance.
For those that do not know, the scam works like this. Stocks are bought at a low price. Then the scammers move in and say the price will move (which of course it will if there is sufficient interest). They get out.
Jeffrey Archer's novel Not a Penny Less, written around thirty years ago or so, gives a good account of a more sophisticated, but similar, scam.
I might have that book unread around somewhere. I couldn't get into "Shall we tell the president" but I devoured his prison diaries like he was Solzhenitsyn or summat.
Thank you -- Thank you -- Thank you. I wish I could be as calm and collected as you were with this kind I situation. I usually get so mad I can't say exactly what I want to say to people on the telephone. Person to person I am calm, but there is something about people on the telephone that drives me up the wall. I usually hang up without saying anything.
Berkshire Hathaway seems to have a balanced portfolio, including stocks which they think are undervalued. Nevertheless, its value really is a function of the flow of money in the market and not of the earnings potential of the shares they hold. It could be a good time to sell this share, and then use the money in a few months to grab some bargains in the property market from the foreclosure of subprime mortgages. But I'm not taking legal responsibility for advice.
Heh heh. I'm keeping it until I reach 120 kgs. It's a continual reminder I'm behind schedule with my weight loss. It also keeps me a bit warmer on walks in the winter weather.
do you like being publicly defamed for the dumb shit YOU say like what I did?
I don't imagine that poor telemarketer feels any better about YOU making false accusations... except my accusations are REAL!
let me know which region you did this in and i'll pull the local penal code and explain which ones you likely violated, in my opinion and break it down for you. i might even make a video out of it for you... so you can feel the shame you tried to put on this poor, unwitting man.
AssistingHealth 5 days ago
@AssistingHealth Do what ever you like, but don't be so two faced about it, pretending at first to like my stuff but really being an enemy. I have no respect for you whatsoever, so just do what the hell you like. Like this twit on the phone, you need to just leave me in peace. You feel the need to stand up for someone who does something everyone hates - probably you do something equally useless and annoying for a living yourself?
usenetposts 4 days ago
@usenetposts I am not an "enemy". I am merely asking you which law he has broken and how... you accuse him of breaking a law, yet, it seems as though you have no idea what you are talking about. i will always stand up for someone that i believe was falsely accused. I just asked you a question... you keep dodging it... like a coward. it's a simple question...
AssistingHealth 4 days ago
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@usenetposts I am not an "enemy". I am merely asking you which law he has broken and how... you accuse him of breaking a law, yet, it seems as though you have no idea what you are talking about. i will always stand up for someone that i believe was falsely accused. I just asked you a question... you keep dodging it... like a coward. it's a simple question...
AssistingHealth 4 days ago
@usenetposts regardless of what I do for a living (I'm working on my undergrad in psychology and pursuant of an MD [likely going to be a general practitioner]). I may become an EMT in the interim and become ACE certified to be a personal trainer. I like helping people... even if you don't like it. if you don't like this person calling, you are MORE than welcomed to hang up.
it's just not that hard... i promise.
AssistingHealth 4 days ago
@AssistingHealth I already had done that several times before. This was the time to get even. I am usually more friendly and helpful than most to telesales people, for the record, but this company and this guy was utterly obnoxious.
usenetposts 4 days ago
@AssistingHealth "let me know which region you did this in and i'll pull the local penal code and explain which ones you likely violated" - Ha ha! what a scream you are! A few posts back you said he should "prosecute" me - showing you can't even distinguish between civil and criminal procedures, and now you claim to be an expert on all the penal codes of the world. Oh my ribs! OK, go on, then, Poland.
usenetposts 4 days ago
@AssistingHealth regardless of whether you THINK this person is "worthless" is rather irrelevant... it doesn't matter what YOU think, it matters what the PERSON PAYING HIM THINKS. that's all it takes... how ironic that you claim to have a degree in finances, yet, fail to show comprehension or a lack of disdain for the capitalist, free-market system.
also: call me as many names as you want "3-faced" "16-faced"... you can call me a pterodactyl if you like... it's all unimportant.
AssistingHealth 4 days ago
@AssistingHealth What the person who was paying him thinks is also worthless. I derive no economic benefit from it at all. I don't claim to have a degree in finances. I have a lot more than that.
usenetposts 4 days ago
@AssistingHealth If you admit that you are defaming me, then you are already skating on very slippery territory. You say you are going to be an MD, but I seriously hope you grow a brain before you get anywhere near any patients...
usenetposts 4 days ago
@usenetposts seeing as i do, indeed, have a brain, this is a fairly childish statement to make. your hopes versus reality are also rather unrelated.
AssistingHealth 4 days ago
@usenetposts the degree in finances thing i may have been mistaken about... maybe you said that your JOB was in finances... then you said you speak 20 languages i believe... it was a vid of yours about lecturing... some individuals in russia, i believe? this was many months ago...
AssistingHealth 4 days ago
@usenetposts i know that you don't derive economic benefit... what i am saying here is all you are doing is getting nowhere dodging my original question and hoping that i give up at some point... your perseverance is respected, yet, will run out eventually. i will continually ask that question until you answer it.
law just doesn't seem to be your forte... however, language and pedagogy seem to be... very respectable.
AssistingHealth 4 days ago
@usenetposts opinions towards another is not an all-or-nothing game. i think your legal knowledge is naive, at best... yet your lingusitic/pedagogical skills and eBay recordings are excellent... I even recommended you to someone recently because of how entertaining you make the learning process (wonderful oratory and pedagogical skill... rather scarce in most institutions, if I might say).
your teaching is a hot commodity... not your brow-beating of a telemarketer.
AssistingHealth 4 days ago
@usenetposts you know nothing aboujt this man... maybe he is an alcoholic or was framed for a crime and just got out of prison and this is the only job he can get to survive or something like that... not likely, but you just never know.
you are making so many groundless assumptions, it's crazy.
and yes, my claims would be defamatory... per quod, probably... texas doesn't cover per quod.. does your region? do you think my extradition is likely if so?
AssistingHealth 4 days ago
@usenetposts my main point here is to be a gentleman and politely decline and hang up the phone versus trying to belittle another for doing their job (times can be tough... that person may even be in the middle of getting another job, just hasn't been hired yet... you just don't know) and proclaiming illegal activity (likely a false allegation) which in iteself, may be illegal.
will you answer my question please, sir?
AssistingHealth 4 days ago
@AssistingHealth I'll tell you this, if every financial person conducted themselves like me there'd be no such thing as insider trading. And I was not polite to him because he was not polite to me. I am usually fairly cordial to telesales people if they don't come across like this heavy-duty guy. There is a way to do telesales and there is a way not to do it. And since this company seems to have gone the journey I'd say the market has shown them that wasn't the way to do it.
usenetposts 4 days ago
@usenetposts oh, and my claims are only defamatory if they are FALSE. so the important thing here is... did he break the law? if you are correct, i'm defaming you... if I am correct, you are defaming him.
let's reference the LAW, shall we?
like I wanted to do... from the beginning?
or do you not want to be ousted as mistaken?
AssistingHealth 4 days ago
@AssistingHealth I don't think you know the meaning of the word ousted, along with several other words you've used in this exchange. My suggestion is if you want to know whether I am mistaken or not, at least look at the definition of insider trading - even the one which appears on wikipedia. You'll see it hinges on handling unpublished info. I *asked* him if he was going to give me unpublished info over the phone about this company traded on NASDAQ and he couldn't deny it.
usenetposts 4 days ago
i apologize for the series of posts... it seemed necessary because you don't seem to be answering a fairly simple question that I would like answered, sir.
have a wonderful day!
:D
AssistingHealth 5 days ago
@AssistingHealth You still didn't answer my question - namely which country's law should I even be quoting. You don't know. because you are pretty ignorant about law anyhow, as I could tell from even what you have posted so far.
usenetposts 4 days ago
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"which section of which penal code did the telemarketer violate, sir? or, which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
or are you just making things up when you accuse him of unlawful conduct? (what it seems like)
"which section of which penal code did the telemarketer violate, sir? or, which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
or are you just making things up when you accuse him of unlawful conduct? (what it seems like)
AssistingHealth 5 days ago
"which section of which penal code did the telemarketer violate, sir? or, which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
or are you just making things up when you accuse him of unlawful conduct? (what it seems like)
"which section of which penal code did the telemarketer violate, sir? or, which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
or are you just making things up when you accuse him of unlawful conduct? (what it seems like)
AssistingHealth 5 days ago
"which section of which penal code did the telemarketer violate, sir? or, which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
or are you just making things up when you accuse him of unlawful conduct? (what it seems like)
"which section of which penal code did the telemarketer violate, sir? or, which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
or are you just making things up when you accuse him of unlawful conduct? (what it seems like)
AssistingHealth 5 days ago
you didn't answer my question... i asked you:
" which law is he breaking, and how? have you examples of a similar situation (jurisprudence) or a portion of a certain region's penal code?"
if i want advice on what he "should" have done, i'll ask a lawyer or PR firm.
again, just because you SAID he is breaking the law, or you have SUSPICIONS that he is, does not, AT ALL mean that he is.
If I think that YOU murdered OJ's wife, and not OJ... does that make it true?
AssistingHealth 6 days ago
@AssistingHealth Only a judge can decide if a crime is committed, of course, but I am saying that if he is passing to me unpublished information so that I can trade in it, then you tell me what country's insider dealing law that wouldn't be in breach of. It is illegal and unethical for me, as a professional accountant, to take and act on unpublished tips about a stock. If he is trying to give me "insider" tips on a stock, he is trying to make me break the law.
usenetposts 6 days ago
@usenetposts interesting... so you searched the WHOLE INTERNET and watched ALL ECONOMIC NEWS ON THE PLANET and noted that, indeed, said information was not yet published.
and, no, in crimnal cases, jurisprudence affords the "guilty/notguilty verdict" to a jury of their "peers".
the judge mostly ensures "order" than anything...
again, I said NOTHING about court, I was talking about the LAW. which section of which penal code, sir? which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?
AssistingHealth 5 days ago
@AssistingHealth You are talking irrelevances. I asked him if he was trying to give me price sensitive unpublished information and he couldn't answer it, so that means he was putting me in a morally dubious position. I don't care what section of what penal code it is. I leave that for the guys on the seventh floor.
usenetposts 5 days ago
@usenetposts would you please respectfully address my question and answer it, as I have been polite and respectful to you, sir.
It would be much appreciated. again: i enjoy your videos and respect your linguistic skills as an aspiring linguist myself.
However, as far as the legality of the actions of this man goes... it seems as though you were just belittling him in an unjust manner (false verbal accusations of unlawful intent and/or activities... the published on YT to be viewed by MANY.).
AssistingHealth 5 days ago
@AssistingHealth That's too made. I have answered your question. If you want legal advice, go ahead and get it. Legal advice is not my hobby, I don't hand it out free like linguistic advice. If a person is unable to tell me whether they are giving me unpublished info over the telephone for me to deal with or not, then they put me in a difficult position vis a vis the law.
usenetposts 5 days ago
@usenetposts @Assisting Health UK accountants have been jailed for conspiracy to insider deal and extradited to the US on little more than going along with things like this. It is absolutely right for me to say what I have said when faced with this approach, and if people don't want to be put on YT it is very easy - don't spam-call me. If you feel sorry for the person here, then fine. You be nice to him when he calls you and inveigles you into ethically dubious propositions.
usenetposts 5 days ago
@usenetposts if anything, this is considered "defamation of character" and/or "slander" since made so widely-available to the public.
AssistingHealth 5 days ago
@AssistingHealth So sue me!
usenetposts 5 days ago
@usenetposts i never said i would sue you, nor do i have the plan to do so. however, i will again, politely ask you to answer this question, if you will kindly do so:
"which section of which penal code, sir? which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
i will be patiently awaiting your response.
AssistingHealth 5 days ago
@AssistingHealth If you are genuinely interested in this and not being facile, then you first tell me, given that situation, to the law of which country (jurisprudence) should I even be referring?
usenetposts 5 days ago
@usenetposts also: i'm not even sure that i can sue on the behalf of this man... i believe that HE would be the one that would prosecute you for your potentially criminal accusations on youtube.
AssistingHealth 5 days ago
@AssistingHealth Good luck to him. I'm sure the judge will have every sympathy with the silly pest.
usenetposts 5 days ago
@usenetposts again, the JUDGE determines SENTENCING, not GUILT. the JURY is what determines the VERDICT.
also, I can't speak on his behalf... why are you pretending as though he will sue you? what is going on here? are you even paying attention? QUESTION:
"which section of which penal code, sir? which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
AssistingHealth 5 days ago
@usenetposts i guess i'll post it several times in a row so it's not quite as easy to ignore... here goes!
"which section of which penal code, sir? which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
"which section of which penal code, sir? which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
"which section of which penal code, sir? which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
AssistingHealth 5 days ago
@AssistingHealth You see, you are doing exactly the same spam job as this moron. No wonder you have such a fellow feeling for him. You are a hopeless spammer and time-waster yourself. get back to your telesales and leave my videos in peace.
usenetposts 4 days ago
@usenetposts "which section of which penal code did the telemarketer violate, sir? or, which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
"which section of which penal code did the telemarketer violate, sir? or, which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
"which section of which penal code did the telemarketer violate, sir? or, which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
AssistingHealth 5 days ago
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@usenetposts "which section of which penal code did the telemarketer violate, sir? or, which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
"which section of which penal code did the telemarketer violate, sir? or, which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
"which section of which penal code did the telemarketer violate, sir? or, which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
AssistingHealth 5 days ago
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@usenetposts "which section of which penal code did the telemarketer violate, sir? or, which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
"which section of which penal code did the telemarketer violate, sir? or, which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
"which section of which penal code did the telemarketer violate, sir? or, which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
AssistingHealth 5 days ago
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@usenetposts "which section of which penal code did the telemarketer violate, sir? or, which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
"which section of which penal code did the telemarketer violate, sir? or, which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
"which section of which penal code did the telemarketer violate, sir? or, which court cases are being referenced (jurisprudence)?"
AssistingHealth 5 days ago
this is fairly entertaining, yet... i still fail to see the validity of your argument regarding the lawfulness (or, lack thereof) of the telemarketer's actions. you can SAY what you want... and it IS VERY entertaining. yet, which law is he breaking, and how? have you examples of a similar situation (jurisprudence) or a portion of a certain region's penal code?
I will be waiting patiently for your response. i enjoy your videos either way! :D
AssistingHealth 1 week ago
@AssistingHealth It's at the heart of insider dealing law that people don't trade on inside information, so if he says that he has unpublished tips that he wants me to look at, how can I tell that he is not passing on unpublished info so that I can trade in it. The way that he approached me sounds like he wanted to be an accessory to unfair trading.
usenetposts 6 days ago
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@TheAmericanOriginal how was i "put in my place"? which law was being broken here under english common law or state/federal/local/et al statutes, ordinances, penal code... all that. you can SAY things all you want, but which LAW back up what you are talking about?
degrees and experience doesn't make your word gospel. a PhD with 30 years can be wrong... they are all the time. and some have the courage to admit it. i can provide links, as needed sir. thank you for your time, sir or madam.
AssistingHealth 1 week ago
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AssistingHealth 1 week ago
@usenetposts oh no, i don't suggest you listen to them. often it's a small-caps investor attempting to pump-and-dump a stock(perfectly legal). which part purported to be insider information? infact, it seems as though the act of cold-calling to inform people is what MAKES said information public. usually insider trading is done in a more clandestine fashion... which this obviously is not. which bit of jurisprudence or statute/ordinance/et al do they seem to you to be breaking? i could be wrong.
AssistingHealth 1 week ago
@AssistingHealth The only way to be safe if you are in finance and something like an auditor is to act solely on info that has been put out in mass media.
usenetposts 6 days ago
@TheAmericanOriginal Thank you, sir!
usenetposts 4 months ago
Coincidentally the telemarketer was American, right? Lol, are they sometimes Japanese?
TheAmericanOriginal 8 months ago
@TheAmericanOriginal The company was in Korea, so I expect that some of them are Korean. They use American accents so that other English speaking foreigners think they have an American on the line, but it could be anyone.
usenetposts 8 months ago
@usenetposts Whoa, this Alvin Management is in Korea? I actually had no idea. I thought some sleazy American salesmen were giving my country a bad name.
TheAmericanOriginal 8 months ago
@TheAmericanOriginal the people in your country give your country a bad name, regardless of salespeople. (i'm also american)
AssistingHealth 4 months ago
"@TheAmericanOriginal how was i "put in my place"? "
I dont know, ask usenetposts =P you replied to the wrong guy, fella
TheAmericanOriginal 22 hours ago
Here in the US we we can sign up for a "Do not call" list. It's great. I no longer get any calls but I wish i could stop the annoying junk mail.
IBMeddling 2 years ago
awesome shit man
bigdan6ft5 2 years ago
This guy is cool :)
Anan7777 2 years ago
BRAVO!!
ymihere222 3 years ago
Whenever I get a call from a telemarketer I like to toy with them and talk to them in a made up language or something... sometimes it confuses them so much lol I don't even have to hang up they do that within the first couple of seconds after repeating what they sid the first time... then I never hear from them again lol and if I do I just do it all again lol I act like an idiot and they leave me alone lol although its granted I'm not an idiot lol
warriorlink01 3 years ago
Try videoing it sometime! People love seeing the tables turned on these timewasters. Alvin still were ringing me until the crash happened. I wonder if they are now running from people who took their tips and lost a load of money on the markets!
usenetposts 3 years ago
Yes they just called me as well. (May 20th-2008) The persons name was Michael Morris and was very slick. Same tone and same words. I really don't like the way he treated my staff to get to me (Very pushy and disrespectful)
Thank you Davey for posting this and keep at it!
askfran 3 years ago
Tanks for the comment, and I'm glad if seeing the guy taking a verbal from me has made you feel a bit better!
usenetposts 3 years ago
I had Alvin Man this morning (3rd March), I cannot be sure that it was the same guy, but my assailant used the SAME tone, the SAME words, and the SAME company!! Ticker MPDD. He offered me a 10K shares at $3,35 due to hit $5,25 within 90 days. Then 5K with a fee of $150 (but how much for selling??). He even assured me he had sold these shares to his father-in-law so he must be sincere (!) Value is $3.60 today, so after the style you will be able to judge the result.
timmarkbaker 4 years ago
They're a disgrace, they are.
usenetposts 3 years ago
With your new hirsute, you look like a learned statesman, Davey.
kenbank 4 years ago 2
Nice touch with the fish tank (my favourite background!), suit and tie! You look dressed to kill (with words!)
qqqqssssxxxx 4 years ago 2
Thanks.
usenetposts 4 years ago
Haha, very good. I like your new beard.
Yardana28 4 years ago
Thanks.
usenetposts 4 years ago
Scumbag salespeople. That was terrific how you shut him up.
Amiduffer 4 years ago
They don't like it up 'em, Drew. Another trick of mine is to start selling back at them and see who outsells the other. I'll try and do that one video, it I get the chance.
usenetposts 4 years ago
That would be funny.
Amiduffer 4 years ago
I'd like to see that one someday, Davey.
kenbank 4 years ago
For those that do not know, the scam works like this. Stocks are bought at a low price. Then the scammers move in and say the price will move (which of course it will if there is sufficient interest). They get out.
Jeffrey Archer's novel Not a Penny Less, written around thirty years ago or so, gives a good account of a more sophisticated, but similar, scam.
alanheath 4 years ago 2
I might have that book unread around somewhere. I couldn't get into "Shall we tell the president" but I devoured his prison diaries like he was Solzhenitsyn or summat.
usenetposts 4 years ago
Thank you -- Thank you -- Thank you. I wish I could be as calm and collected as you were with this kind I situation. I usually get so mad I can't say exactly what I want to say to people on the telephone. Person to person I am calm, but there is something about people on the telephone that drives me up the wall. I usually hang up without saying anything.
ockteby 4 years ago
He was a sarcastic one, this one, but I have enough contempt for these people to be immune to their sarcasm.
usenetposts 4 years ago
I also keep on getting these type of calls. Now I let the machine pick up. This have cut down now the telephone solicitations
homousios 4 years ago
what do you think about Brk.b ?
Grace3d 4 years ago
Berkshire Hathaway seems to have a balanced portfolio, including stocks which they think are undervalued. Nevertheless, its value really is a function of the flow of money in the market and not of the earnings potential of the shares they hold. It could be a good time to sell this share, and then use the money in a few months to grab some bargains in the property market from the foreclosure of subprime mortgages. But I'm not taking legal responsibility for advice.
usenetposts 4 years ago
I've only been looking at it. It seems brk.a had done very well in the past 40 years. Thanks, Liz
Grace3d 4 years ago
If you were in it, and not with a big investment, I would say drop it, but generally it's not the best time to be buying right now.
usenetposts 4 years ago
David I get anywhere from 4 to 7 calls like that a day here in DC. It is great to see someone in action that knows how to handle them. Cheers Patrick
Ranger425 4 years ago
Thanks, Patrick.
usenetposts 4 years ago
this is good news, you are going to appreciate this... ... cheeky so and so putting the phone down on you....
I did not know that this scam was also done over the telephone.
alanheath 4 years ago
Like we said at our last meeting, Al, it's time to name and shame all these centers of grot in our communal lives...
usenetposts 4 years ago
quite right!!
And on Thursday I am seeing the MD of one of company I have already named and shamed!
alanheath 4 years ago
Well done. I've got a similar hatchet job in progress on the Danish airline who lost my luggage.
usenetposts 4 years ago
BYE! BYE! BYE! ;)
dasilva94 4 years ago
love the goaty hehe ;p not very professional is it hahaha ;p
lordmoggy 4 years ago 2
Naw mate that's not a goatee, it's a Manuary, a beard grown for January :)
dasilva94 4 years ago
Heh heh. I'm keeping it until I reach 120 kgs. It's a continual reminder I'm behind schedule with my weight loss. It also keeps me a bit warmer on walks in the winter weather.
usenetposts 4 years ago
Go for it Mr. James!
Phone sales are are very intrusive, they are as bad and as worse as spoof email!
p12bat 4 years ago 2
It's OK, my friends are welcome to call me by my first name! I just don't think spam callers should think themselves entitled!
usenetposts 4 years ago
ouch that was a sting in the tail ;p
lordmoggy 4 years ago 2
Always good to see some copious ownage!
Cheesephone 4 years ago 2