To Tapper: THANK YOU! It's refreshing to see a journalist acting like a journalist instead of some obsequious stenographer toeing the line out of careerist cowardice, like the vast majority of your worthless contemporaries.
To Carney: You're a piece of shit who uses a million words to say absolutely nothing. If I could jump through this computer screen and wring your neck I'd do so happily and w/o compunction.
The Fascists are finally showing their true colors. This means they may be getting bold, or scared. I vote scared. People should not be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of their people.
Both Jay Carney and Obama know that what they did was unconstitutional and a crime. If they had evidence that he was involved in any of these things then they would have no problem in showing the public the evidence. They never even charged Awlaki with any crimes. Obama was a constitutional law professor. He knows what he did was not right.
The executive's assumed right to execute an American citizen without judicial review and due process is a huge step backwards in the rights of man. This type of political philosophy predates both our constitution and the Magna Carta and almost all enlightenment philosophy on which our founding fathers relied when establishing the raison d'etre of this government. This case is the largest development in assumed government powers vs. the rights of citizens in the history of this country.
What apt name, Carney. Step right up see the the supreme prestidigitator (president) in action. He makes American citizens vanish into thin air.
I am glad to see a reporter finally calling the administration out on this and I hope others took notes on how this was done.
Like many others I just don't think I can vote for Obama again. He's not any kind of progressive or liberal I've ever seen. 25 years ago he would have been a main stream Republican. He's a corporate authoritarian.
whats goin on right now is sick....our nation is going down the toilet, with a big load of crap right behind it.....are you still proud to be an american?
@JosephP55 Agreed. There is no lesser evil in this election between the two major parties. It's just evil vs. evil. I have never felt such utter disgust for what I'm expected to such swallow and vote for in my life. Worse yet, so called progressives turning a blind eye to something they'd have puked over if that idiot Bush had done it. This all just too depressing. It really is.
It doesn't make sense to me that Obama is putting the sanction on Iran on his own will, I believe there is a bigger hand behind him that gives him Orders and Obama follows, could it be Israel? That to me would make more sense because Israelis don't like Muslims, so first it was Afghanistan, then Iraq, then Pakistan and now Iran? Think people think before its too late!!!
The guy was on the run in a lawless country while conducting terrorist activities, such as the underwear bomber and implanting bombs in printers and he had a hand in the Ft Hood shooting. It was not like the President can order the NYPD into Yemen to arrest him. If he wanted a fair trial and due process, then he should've turned himself in, otherwise he's fair game. That goes for ANY AMERICAN.
@umhchud Wow as good as this sounds changing the president won't do much to better our country we need to also change senators and house reps also. Wake up people
I like how Tapper asks what constitutional lawyer Obama would ay about it. What Tapper should have said is, "What would Obama say about if his handlers weren't telling him what to say about it?"
Wow. What a magnificent clip. And thank you, Jake Tapper, for asking great, great, poignant, pointed questions. Now, let's not give this up. Let's keep asking and pushing.
I hear everyone and understand the frustration. This is the time when we raise our voices to the goverment, this is the time when they should hear us say" enough is enough, we will tolorate this no longer". Remove the ones responsible and replace with good constitutional obiding men and women so we can get this counrty back on track. Tell everyone you know to speak and be proud.
@LAGERUNG3 Yeah, blame obama... that's the smart thing to do. George Bush would do the same thing and you'd see the political idiots flipping sides on the issue.
@optimus8288 You don't see at all how you are doing the exact same thing that you just claimed to hate? You just said you wanted people to not flip-flop about Bush, yet you're taking the blame off Obama and going straight for Bush. If you want the flip-flopping to stop, start with the damn current President who's shitting on your constitution.
Clearly what you're doing is NOT the smart thing to do, which you profess it is.
This federal government is evil, this is what you get when half the people in the street don't know who the vice president is and are raised on not caring about world events, but, instead on when they can get the new ipod. We are so fucked, especially those that don't want this tyranny, im sure we will all be dragged off and killed in due time. These guys are judge, jury, and executioner.
@RebelRouserMC Especially when "it was the position of this AND the previous administration" that he was a terrorist planner and recruiter. Our government really, really sucks at lying.
@RebelRouserMC lol Awlaki denounced the attacks after 9-11 .. n his "connection" was they may have been in his mosque like thousands of other people. he later left for yemen obviously
Why should we be shocked that they (federal government) kill an American citizen without a trial? They've been violating our rights for decades. Privacy? Innocent until proven guilty? That's a thing of the past.
All hail King Obama! He can do what ever he wants. We should be scared. Who will be next? This is evil. Do we want a President (follows our laws and Constitution) or do we want a King? Get Obama out.
Yes, by all means, lets assassinate American citizens without due process while bending over backwards to protect the "rights" of foreign enemy combatants . This is just another example of how this president & his administration think they can just wipe their butts with the Constitution & get away with it. Too bad we don't have more Jake Tappers in the media willing to do their job & call the administration on their criminal behavior!
A: We don't have to, you should take our word for it.
By his logic, accusing someone of being a terrorist is all the justification that's necessary to murder them.
Imagine if every criminal case followed this process, and warrants were issued to shoot suspects dead without proving them guilty of any crime first. This can NOT be tolerated.
@cayborduin Recall Nixon: "If the president does it, it's not illegal."
Nowhere in our code of laws did it say that the president's word was a substitute for a trial by your peers, until this year. The office of president has always come with a lot of power, the scope of which has definitely grown over the course of our history and which, tellingly, has always included the right to pardon a convicted criminal. That power never explicitly included the ability to order an assassination.
Do not let up on these bastards. Demand the facts and a straight and honest answer. If they CAN do it to him then they CAN do it to you. We can't let them get away with trampling on our freedoms and rights. They are essentially wiping their ass with the constitution.
Fancy suit wearing spokesperson... unable to answer honestly. He's probably used to facing less bright minds. More journalists like this one are needed!
Look at the black lady in the back she has the face of "oh shit he's not suppose to be a critical thinker and ask real tough questions". I'm really tired of these lapdog reporters. Great job mr Tapper we need more like you with huge cojones!
Nice work Tapper. THIS is what a free press is supposed to be doing, not merely being court stenographers, dutifully copying and repeating everything they are told by the government.
Basically, he's saying "I'm not going to tell you ... I don't need to justify anything to you... you, the people, don't own the government any more, we own you!".
The "Christmas Day Bomber"?!!! PLEASE!!! Patrick Kennedy of the U.S. State Dept. admitted that he was put on the plane by a U.S. Intelligence officer. Two attorneys that are U.S. citizens witnessed the whole thing! Search Kurt and Lori Haskell - Flight 253
Tapper wins, Carney and the whole Republican and Democratic parties should be investigated and if involved in the coup, they should be put to the courts and punished harshly, for being traitors.
What bill of rights... the president is a king; what constitution... he didn't like the king, the divine right of kings is the answer from that smarmy bird poo at the podium.
All I have to say about this is that Libertarians and Liberals have warned for a decade that a president could use the Patriot Act to kill an American without due-process, and for 10 years supporters of the Patriot Act said "No". Now it has happened, it is reality, and they say, "Well, it was for the best." Were are all the liberals who cried about spying without due process? Supporting Obama still I suppose.
@MrJeggus You don't think we already HAVE one in office??? What makes you think that Obama isn't capable of, and intending to, take it even further? Who's going to stop him? Congress? (don't hold your breath waiting for Congress)
This is extraordinary. What was left of the United States died on October 2, 2011
The American people deserve this government. It is crystal reflection of their collective souls. For every American like Jake Tapper there are 10,000 like Jay Carney. That is the reality that good Americans simply do not see but the rest of the world does.
American people ask your self, tomorrow when government point finger at you like a TERRORIST you have no more right on fair judge or fair hearing, no you are FINISH, they just will send one "small" group of people in BLACK to to carry out your execution. Because that is a "WAR ON TERROR"
wow! a reporter with some balls, excellent work, this man deserves much praise.
murdering americans and not even presenting evidence, much less giving the person a trial, huh? murdering non-americans is just as evil, but this is yet another extremely dangerous precedent.
this is the last straw. the president needs to be impeached.
I'm as liberal as they come, and I've always had a problem with this administration targeting a U.S. citizen (Awlaki) for assassination. However, at the same time, it's a bit of a gray area. If you know where the guy is and you know he's literally preached death to America and helped people to commit acts of terrorism, then do you risk the life of service members to capture him for trial, or just take him out? Is an innocent's life worth bringing him to trial?
@shalcall In consideration that he was in fact an American... yes, they should have attempted to arrest him. I served in the military and I joined understanding such risks were part of that sacrifice. If I take an oath to support and defend the Constitution and further take upon the role of protecting the rights of Americans.. I have a duty to even protect the rights of this man.
By doing such, it would have sent a far more just and morale message to the world. It's a real shame.
@brettdusek So, if I had to choose between having Awlaki assassinated or risking my own life to bring him in, I would always choose the latter.. for as a soldier, I am bound to nothing more superior than to my oath. Not even the Commander-In-Chief is more superior.
@brettdusek This really is still a gray area for me. I was a Marine and if Awlaki was on a battlefield with his birth certificate and passport stapled to his chest, if he had a gun, he'd still be shot and killed. If he was a messenger, he'd still be shot and killed. If he was a hostage, being used as a body shield on an active battle field, he'd still be shot and killed. So if you sent the military in to pull him out, he could still be shot and killed (like Osama). Why risk it?
@shalcall I agree with you. However, the fact is he wasn't on the battlefield and he didn't have a gun. He was driving in a vehicle with what appears to be another American, when he was attacked by a drone.
Yes, by sending in the military to make an arrest, he very well might have still been shot and killed if he resisted. However, in that instance it would have been just, for the threat would have then been imminent.
I don't know why you - meaning Americans generally - don't get it. If your President kills people without due process then he is no better than Al Capone or the Mexican drug lords. And that has lowered America's standards to a level on a par with Zimbabwe.
Watch the Young Turks on YouTube at watch?v=ZqgJM35yL-E then tell me you still don't get it.
@patrickcorliss Look, I've said repeatedly that I'm uncomfortable with this entire exercise, and if the Reuter's report is accurate, I'm very much against this action and congress should use its oversight role to really delve into this matter. However, the PRINCIPLE of executing U.S. citizens abroad who are actively planning to kill American citizens is not something that I think is a black and white issue. I think it's something that should have a check (congress or the courts).
@shalcall, How would you explain the administration's refusal to provide the evidence they supposedly have of his guilt? Your hypothetical starts, "if you know...". Well, if they actually knew he was a terrorist, they should be able to produce the evidence on the basis of which they knew it. If they don't have any evidence, then they didn't know any such thing.
@owl235 You're right that they need to make the case. But I've seen Awlaki's videos (and the FBI is probably watching me because of it, lol). Now yelling fire in a crowded theater is not protected speech, so I'm guessing telling terrorists that it's right and proper to kill Americans from Yemen while associating with other terrorists is probably not protected speech either, but I don't know if the Supreme Court has ruled on that.
But that idea of risking lives to arrest him bothers me.
@shalcall Telling sombody to kill someone would be Conspiracy to Commit Murder or something along those lines I would assume. A Fellony. We arrested and tried Timothy McVeigh after the OKC Federal bombing, I don't see why he is any different than other terrorists besides global location. I get what your saying though, it's though.
@cooljj82 Actually if you pay a hit man to murder your wife, that's murder 1 even though you weren't the one to pull the trigger. But yeah, to me, his location is a huge deal. Being within the U.S. border is very different than being outside the U.S. border. So global location really does make a difference. Again, I still think the administration has a responsibility to make the case WHY this man was killed and provide that evidence to the public. But the action itself is a gray area for me
The issue isn't whether or not he "helped people to commit acts of terrorism," but rather whether the U.S. President can kill U.S. citizens arbitrarily. If proof of Anwar al-Awlaki's guilt exists, why isn't it being presented?
There's nothing "gray" about it. It's black or white. Either they present evidence or they don't.
@shalcall Remember that thing about "Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law"? That was the right of every US citizen, no matter how seemingly monstrous, until this moment. That's not a gray area, that is a line being crossed.
@MrAnconsheep It's a gray area when you have to risk the lives of soldiers half way around the world in order to bring that person to justice. You might not think so, but I think most people would agree.
While I agree with the line of questioning by Jake Tapper and I think the Obama administration has to provide answers for this, I also know that if this line of questioning had happened during the Bush administration, Jake Tapper would never be allowed within 1000 feet of the white house press room ever again and the word traitor would be on the front page of every right wing blog with respect to these kinds of questions.
@shalcall ... Tapper won't be banned from the WH ... Obama can just have him wacked now. Right? (WRONG ... anyone who values their freedom, even their life itself, needs to stand up and oppose this outrageous violation of the Constitution. Obama should be impeached for this above all the other illegal and treasonous activity in which he's engaged.
@carlwk3c I think it's a gray area. The constitution does not say that it is restricted to U.S. citizens. It's laws are applicable (or supposed to be applicable) to ANYONE under U.S. jurisdiction. Yemen isn't in U.S. jurisdiction. Look, I agree, the man should have been tried (even if it was in abstentia). But if you're not on U.S. soil, even if you're a U.S. citizen, can you really say that the constitution protects you?
@shalcall The constitution doesn't give people rights or protect them, it restricts goverment. The government is restricted from killing without due process. Obviously. If a US citizen goes on vacation to france can the FBI raid their home? Can the CIA assasinate them on a cruise off of the gulf coast if its far enough out? Lets not go down that path. We are better than that.
@cooljj82 I agree that we are. But there are gray areas even in your statement. The government is restricted from killing without due process. Does that mean the U.S. is prevented from participating in wars due to the 5th amendment? I don't think you'd find a judge that would agree with that. So then you begin laying out the case that war is different and in those semantics you'll have to ask if we're at war with Al-qaeda, if Awlaki is part of al-qaeda etc., etc.
Jake Tapper one of those idiot reports thinks his doing his job, really? he don'st know how stupid he looks. These fools job was no where to be found when America was lead in to fictitious war that kill and destroyed the lives hundreds of thousands of people. Now at the death one known terrorist his all over the place
@birhan2006 Jake Tapper wasn't a White House Correspondent during the Bush years. Besides, everyone needs to ask these questions no matter who's in charge.
its only a matter of time until Jake Tapper moves over to Foxnews, I'm sure he got an earful from his bosses about those tough question of that weasel Carney
I love the term pre-emptive war- it really allows so much room for human rights violations and brutality! It's like me thinking that my neighbor is going to cause me problems about the fence I put on the property line cause he was looking at it with a scowl on his face so I go over an attack him cause he "hates freedom" lol
Wow, you're worried about the rights of a former US Citizen that planned to kill hundreds or thousands of Americans? He was the “chief of external operations” for Al-Qaida. It's not just some "guy" we picked up to shake down. This is the worst of the worst who would kill you morons & not miss a wink of sleep
@Bolgernow how do you know he was "chief of external operations" for Al Qaida ? Because they just said so?
Al Qaida: Shortly before his untimely death, former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook told the House of Commons that "Al Qaeda" is not really a terrorist group but a database of international mujaheddin and arms smugglers used by the CIA and Saudis to funnel guerrillas, arms, and money into Soviet-occupied Afghanistan. The whole terrorist thing is a hoax to take your freedom -wake up!
Here is the problem, at about 2:20 forward for a bit:
Tapper: Do you not see at all, does the administration not see at all how a president asserting that he has the right to kill an american citizen without due process, and that he’s not going to even explain why he thinks he has that right..is troublesome to some people?
Carney: I wasn’t aware of any of those things that you said actually happening.
That is to say, Carney and Obama are not aware of anyone being troubled by these actions.
Guys like this Awlaki would not even exist if it wasn't for America's aggressive foreign policy for past 50 years, undermining the nations of the middle east. Don't you see that the unintentional death of innocents over there leads to animosity that empowers guys like this to do worst things imaginable to people.
@rightsman123 I personally believe the whole terrorism thing since and including 9/11 is a lie. But I totally agree with your point and this has been even expressed by bigger people - If there weren't terrorists already, there sure the hell are now! Thanks US and NATO! However, don't worry - security is so damn good in the states - they'd never get in for real.
@rightsman123 So what was the excuse prior to us going over there, or do you honestly think the hatred and violence in the middle East began after 9/11, or even anytime in the last several hundred years?
@JLVA1983 Well you know I do think interventionist policies and ideas have been with us since the dawn of civilization and it only leads me to the conclusion that it only inspires more hatred and blood feuds among people of many differences. The need for control of the world and our insecurity and nonacceptance of its chaos, plus the bounties that territorial expansion and treasures it produces give government the incentive. It is not the ideal, war never is and is not what we should aspire to.
Whoa. Was this video filmed in real time or is it a cut-and-paste job? Granted, the podiumed man has an impossible job in trying to defend unconstitutional assassinations, but it is rare to catch the talking heads squirm so much ;)
Have you seen the MIAC report? You might be surprised at who already is being called "terrorists", including those who fly Gadsden Flags, those who support Ron Paul, those who defend their right to own and bear arms, and those who are "survivalists" and stock up on water and supplies to protect their families.
@mczerone ... yea, us normal, non-marxist, non-totalitarian types REALLY need to watch our backs (and above) now ... Obama has just set the precedent for assassinating American citizens without due process ... granted that "Al" was probably deserving of a death sentence, but ONLY by due process, NOT by presidential order without due process or evidence. If he's allowed to get away with this, his political opponents will follow shortly after.
Proof? Who needs proof? Just kill any American you wish big govt. We trust you'll make a good judgement seeing how you've buried my country and our future in trillions in Debt.
To those who think it was okay for the government to kill this guy (and i will concede for the sake of the argument that he is guilty) - The true price for being okay with the the government suspending the constitution for something you feel acceptable is, one day, they will suspend it for something you will be completely opposed. Are you okay with that price? I am not!!
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jake tapper shut to fu%& up man,, ,,only in america... they want then to atack us so they can blame obama then,,,,Not gonna happen.. fuck terrorist,, fuck u jake tapper...
Huh? The reporter, if you watched the video, simply asked "where is some proof this guy posed an imminent threat or was otherwise guilty of what you charge him with?"
The White House spokesman was dumbfounded that someone dared to question the official story, and obviously had no answer as to what this "terrorist" actually did. It was a little Freudian the way he even stumbled over the word "terrorist" in the middle of the video, like he couldn't honestly say he was one.
Terrorist activity is why. Could this right be somewhere in the Patriot Act? For the President to have the authority to watch, trap and kill any terrorist, or U.S. Citizen branded a Terrorist, deemed a Threat to National Security. Or something like that? Ever since 9/11 and Bush?
Well established? WTF? Ron Paul or No one at all.!
Raimunelar 17 hours ago
ISRAEL CAN SUCK MY FUCKING DICK
ImmNotMax 6 days ago
wow... haha were unfortunately going to iran... our government lacks logic... im sorry
88roro11 1 week ago
I am voting for Ron Paul! Legalize the Constitution!
RonPaulKicksAss 1 week ago
Well done Jake Tapper, well done.
DaddyProdigal 1 week ago 6
To Tapper: THANK YOU! It's refreshing to see a journalist acting like a journalist instead of some obsequious stenographer toeing the line out of careerist cowardice, like the vast majority of your worthless contemporaries.
To Carney: You're a piece of shit who uses a million words to say absolutely nothing. If I could jump through this computer screen and wring your neck I'd do so happily and w/o compunction.
SylvanaForrester 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos 10
The Fascists are finally showing their true colors. This means they may be getting bold, or scared. I vote scared. People should not be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of their people.
MalaklypsetheElder 1 week ago
Shorter Carney and Obama:
You weren't using those civil rights anyways!
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ifthethunderdontgety 2 weeks ago
Both Jay Carney and Obama know that what they did was unconstitutional and a crime. If they had evidence that he was involved in any of these things then they would have no problem in showing the public the evidence. They never even charged Awlaki with any crimes. Obama was a constitutional law professor. He knows what he did was not right.
issagc 2 weeks ago 4
lucky tapper is a front rower, journalism of this type would show the door to a back rower.
happyhalberstam 2 weeks ago
the fuck is this spokesman even saying, lol
jakemanningthcs 2 weeks ago
Kings and dictators decide who lives and dies...
... THAT is the Rule of Men.
The Rule of Law demands proof...
maxx1000 2 weeks ago 4
They also murdered Alwaki's 16 year old son...it appears that Jake Tapper is the sole surviving journalist in the White House press room.
degomariz 2 weeks ago 4
The executive's assumed right to execute an American citizen without judicial review and due process is a huge step backwards in the rights of man. This type of political philosophy predates both our constitution and the Magna Carta and almost all enlightenment philosophy on which our founding fathers relied when establishing the raison d'etre of this government. This case is the largest development in assumed government powers vs. the rights of citizens in the history of this country.
basedrop 2 weeks ago 2
I love watching liars squirm!
ryeguy123456789 2 weeks ago
What apt name, Carney. Step right up see the the supreme prestidigitator (president) in action. He makes American citizens vanish into thin air.
I am glad to see a reporter finally calling the administration out on this and I hope others took notes on how this was done.
Like many others I just don't think I can vote for Obama again. He's not any kind of progressive or liberal I've ever seen. 25 years ago he would have been a main stream Republican. He's a corporate authoritarian.
JinnRikki 2 weeks ago 2
Vote Green. We need hope. We need something non-corporatist.
aeiou99999 2 weeks ago 2
@aeiou99999 will that ever happen? I hope so but sad to say not likely
konartis2 2 weeks ago
whats goin on right now is sick....our nation is going down the toilet, with a big load of crap right behind it.....are you still proud to be an american?
konartis2 2 weeks ago
@konartis2 No.
aeiou99999 2 weeks ago
As bad as the Republican alternatives are, I simply cannot vote again for Obama after watching this.
JosephP55 2 weeks ago 4
@JosephP55 Agreed. There is no lesser evil in this election between the two major parties. It's just evil vs. evil. I have never felt such utter disgust for what I'm expected to such swallow and vote for in my life. Worse yet, so called progressives turning a blind eye to something they'd have puked over if that idiot Bush had done it. This all just too depressing. It really is.
JoeDixon 2 weeks ago 4
"Provably may be a legal term"
blendergasketsquared 2 weeks ago
It doesn't make sense to me that Obama is putting the sanction on Iran on his own will, I believe there is a bigger hand behind him that gives him Orders and Obama follows, could it be Israel? That to me would make more sense because Israelis don't like Muslims, so first it was Afghanistan, then Iraq, then Pakistan and now Iran? Think people think before its too late!!!
cstrikeplaya 1 month ago
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The guy was on the run in a lawless country while conducting terrorist activities, such as the underwear bomber and implanting bombs in printers and he had a hand in the Ft Hood shooting. It was not like the President can order the NYPD into Yemen to arrest him. If he wanted a fair trial and due process, then he should've turned himself in, otherwise he's fair game. That goes for ANY AMERICAN.
nytquil1 1 month ago
obama - the new dictator
lovegod2006 1 month ago 2
Tapper showing a rare instance of independence. Too bad it's few and far between for the average mainstream news media reporter.
Vebinz 1 month ago 3
Ron Paul for president! This is bullshit!
RonPaulKicksAss 1 month ago 3
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watch him stutter, sweat, hesitate, sweat. everybody knows those are signs of lying and/or idiocy.
bastard looks like a two year old after just stealing a cookie and asked if he did or not.
Insaniak15 1 month ago
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Insaniak15 1 month ago
Ron Paul for President.
umhchud 2 months ago
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@umhchud Wow as good as this sounds changing the president won't do much to better our country we need to also change senators and house reps also. Wake up people
mikeob27 2 months ago
WTF? Assassination on suspected terrorist without trial? People, make this video viral ASAP
zwoodard21 2 months ago
I like how Tapper asks what constitutional lawyer Obama would ay about it. What Tapper should have said is, "What would Obama say about if his handlers weren't telling him what to say about it?"
rrhynes 2 months ago
Jake Tapper, the only public servant in the room.
lurchpop 2 months ago 4
any evidence... NOPE
NO evidence
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Wow. What a magnificent clip. And thank you, Jake Tapper, for asking great, great, poignant, pointed questions. Now, let's not give this up. Let's keep asking and pushing.
Mo Rage, the blog
kcdrew69 2 months ago
I hear everyone and understand the frustration. This is the time when we raise our voices to the goverment, this is the time when they should hear us say" enough is enough, we will tolorate this no longer". Remove the ones responsible and replace with good constitutional obiding men and women so we can get this counrty back on track. Tell everyone you know to speak and be proud.
Cabowild1013 3 months ago
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LAGERUNG3 3 months ago
The Obama administration are terrorists.
LAGERUNG3 3 months ago
@LAGERUNG3 Yeah, blame obama... that's the smart thing to do. George Bush would do the same thing and you'd see the political idiots flipping sides on the issue.
optimus8288 3 months ago
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@optimus8288 When will you kneejerks finally realize that Bush & Obama serve the same cartel?
LAGERUNG3 3 months ago
@optimus8288 You don't see at all how you are doing the exact same thing that you just claimed to hate? You just said you wanted people to not flip-flop about Bush, yet you're taking the blame off Obama and going straight for Bush. If you want the flip-flopping to stop, start with the damn current President who's shitting on your constitution.
Clearly what you're doing is NOT the smart thing to do, which you profess it is.
DeathByTarantula 3 months ago 2
@optimus82 and GWB would have been wrong in doing it too. This isn't a partisan issue. It's a civil rights issues. A due process issue.
rrhynes 2 months ago
This federal government is evil, this is what you get when half the people in the street don't know who the vice president is and are raised on not caring about world events, but, instead on when they can get the new ipod. We are so fucked, especially those that don't want this tyranny, im sure we will all be dragged off and killed in due time. These guys are judge, jury, and executioner.
Bpowderr 3 months ago 2
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pyropunk20072000 3 months ago
Instead of bombing Yemen, why didnt they just arrest Anwar Aw Awlaki when he was dining at the Pentagon?
RebelRouserMC 4 months ago 39
@RebelRouserMC Especially when "it was the position of this AND the previous administration" that he was a terrorist planner and recruiter. Our government really, really sucks at lying.
Madoculos 3 months ago
@RebelRouserMC lol Awlaki denounced the attacks after 9-11 .. n his "connection" was they may have been in his mosque like thousands of other people. he later left for yemen obviously
IzaFaqat 2 months ago
@RebelRouserMC Because vital US interests would be harmed, for example: Lockheed Martin stock price.
K0ndratyuk 2 weeks ago
@K0ndratyuk ,FUCK LOCKHEED MARTIN! FUCK HAlIBURTON! FUCK THE CARLYLE GROUP!
RebelRouserMC 1 week ago
Is Tapper still invited back to the White House?
electricneedleroom 4 months ago
Stand up for your rights people .. both parties
JDPKRevolution 4 months ago
Why should we be shocked that they (federal government) kill an American citizen without a trial? They've been violating our rights for decades. Privacy? Innocent until proven guilty? That's a thing of the past.
mjboak 4 months ago 8
All hail King Obama! He can do what ever he wants. We should be scared. Who will be next? This is evil. Do we want a President (follows our laws and Constitution) or do we want a King? Get Obama out.
beccalouisey 4 months ago 7
Jay Carney irks me...he reminds me of the kid who used to get wedgies in school, all grown up and the lapdog of a tyrant.
JLVA1983 4 months ago 4
Murder has been legalized now.
smujismuj 4 months ago 2
Congratulations, Mr. Carney on your new job as a professional liar.
smujismuj 4 months ago 3
Yes, by all means, lets assassinate American citizens without due process while bending over backwards to protect the "rights" of foreign enemy combatants . This is just another example of how this president & his administration think they can just wipe their butts with the Constitution & get away with it. Too bad we don't have more Jake Tappers in the media willing to do their job & call the administration on their criminal behavior!
originalgrissel 4 months ago 2
@originalgrissel this is not a judicial process, it is a war.
johndj1103 4 months ago
It's war, he's the enemy, he should have died......
johndj1103 4 months ago
we need RP2012
syborius 5 months ago
BETTER OFF PUTTING JEFF DUNNAM AND A SOCK PUPET UP THERE
rcacad 5 months ago
In summary.
Q: Why did you do it?
A: He was a bad guy.
Q: Can you prove it?
A: We don't have to, you should take our word for it.
By his logic, accusing someone of being a terrorist is all the justification that's necessary to murder them.
Imagine if every criminal case followed this process, and warrants were issued to shoot suspects dead without proving them guilty of any crime first. This can NOT be tolerated.
jgejerrit 5 months ago 112
@jgejerrit No, no. It's only when the president accuses them.
cayborduin 2 weeks ago
@cayborduin Recall Nixon: "If the president does it, it's not illegal."
Nowhere in our code of laws did it say that the president's word was a substitute for a trial by your peers, until this year. The office of president has always come with a lot of power, the scope of which has definitely grown over the course of our history and which, tellingly, has always included the right to pardon a convicted criminal. That power never explicitly included the ability to order an assassination.
jgejerrit 2 weeks ago 3
Do not let up on these bastards. Demand the facts and a straight and honest answer. If they CAN do it to him then they CAN do it to you. We can't let them get away with trampling on our freedoms and rights. They are essentially wiping their ass with the constitution.
socalrcr 5 months ago 5
So Orwellian..
Vertigo2903 5 months ago 2
Hes got a bad case of Clinton thumb
zecixx 5 months ago
That's why they built the FEMA camps program for billions. Tape FEMA CAMPS on youtube.
Domna7 5 months ago
Nobel Peace President.
MrAnconsheep 5 months ago 2
@MrAnconsheep
They should cancel the Nobel Peace Prize. He did nothing to deserve it in the first place.
patrickcorliss 5 months ago
Fancy suit wearing spokesperson... unable to answer honestly. He's probably used to facing less bright minds. More journalists like this one are needed!
fathlam 5 months ago 2
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Look at the black lady in the back she has the face of "oh shit he's not suppose to be a critical thinker and ask real tough questions". I'm really tired of these lapdog reporters. Great job mr Tapper we need more like you with huge cojones!
stuntdoogie 5 months ago 2
The Declaration of Independence acknowledges 'all men are created equal', thus citizen and non-citizen alike are entitled to a judge and jury.
Wouldn't a Constitutional law professor know this?
LiveFreeOrTheyDie 5 months ago
This clip is very important and is a hint of the future.
Please show this to as much people as you know since it is the start of something bad. awareness is the only option for now.
alexicon89 5 months ago
Good job Tapper, what are you doing with the ABCIA News that the CIA bought controlling interest of in 1984??
HatrickPenry 5 months ago
Nice work Tapper. THIS is what a free press is supposed to be doing, not merely being court stenographers, dutifully copying and repeating everything they are told by the government.
Peace be with you.
cfountain72 5 months ago
Basically, he's saying "I'm not going to tell you ... I don't need to justify anything to you... you, the people, don't own the government any more, we own you!".
looseSpark 5 months ago 2
The "Christmas Day Bomber"?!!! PLEASE!!! Patrick Kennedy of the U.S. State Dept. admitted that he was put on the plane by a U.S. Intelligence officer. Two attorneys that are U.S. citizens witnessed the whole thing! Search Kurt and Lori Haskell - Flight 253
WAKE UP EVERYONE!!!!!
lisaolivia1 5 months ago 3
Tapper wins, Carney and the whole Republican and Democratic parties should be investigated and if involved in the coup, they should be put to the courts and punished harshly, for being traitors.
michaelsterling37 5 months ago
What bill of rights... the president is a king; what constitution... he didn't like the king, the divine right of kings is the answer from that smarmy bird poo at the podium.
cheekieweekie 5 months ago
Holly fuckin shit....just not answer the questions...."fuck you all", he's saying!
bermudaguy1 5 months ago
at 2:19...... Q: "Do you NAZI at all? Does the administration NAZI at all?
A: "Why YES! We NAZI all the time!"
Thopter 5 months ago 2
@Thopter HAHAHAHA good one.. oohh the irony
tetefather 4 months ago
Must say I am impressed by the quality of many comments. Thanks.
akcartledge 5 months ago
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RON PAUL 2012!
CelebritiesSuckAss69 5 months ago
its called a trial ,and a jury of your peers!!!!!
1mrslapzilla 5 months ago
Vote 4 Ron Paul
mikepowers420 5 months ago
All I have to say about this is that Libertarians and Liberals have warned for a decade that a president could use the Patriot Act to kill an American without due-process, and for 10 years supporters of the Patriot Act said "No". Now it has happened, it is reality, and they say, "Well, it was for the best." Were are all the liberals who cried about spying without due process? Supporting Obama still I suppose.
cooljj82 5 months ago
and thats how they treat u.s. pentagone dinner guest . Just think whats in store for other ciitzens....
deathofisrael 5 months ago
murderers plain and simple like . Terrorist if you will !
deathofisrael 5 months ago
@MrJeggus You don't think we already HAVE one in office??? What makes you think that Obama isn't capable of, and intending to, take it even further? Who's going to stop him? Congress? (don't hold your breath waiting for Congress)
carlwk3c 5 months ago 2
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Shorty7777 5 months ago
Obama, Carney, et all, are, as stated above, a bigger threat to ALL OF US than any supposed terrorist.
carlwk3c 5 months ago
jake tapper is the BOSS
Nusrat5791 5 months ago
This is extraordinary. What was left of the United States died on October 2, 2011
The American people deserve this government. It is crystal reflection of their collective souls. For every American like Jake Tapper there are 10,000 like Jay Carney. That is the reality that good Americans simply do not see but the rest of the world does.
MarcusCMarcellus 5 months ago
American people ask your self, tomorrow when government point finger at you like a TERRORIST you have no more right on fair judge or fair hearing, no you are FINISH, they just will send one "small" group of people in BLACK to to carry out your execution. Because that is a "WAR ON TERROR"
runxxeroxx 5 months ago
I'm scared living in Holland.....
Can't even imagine how scary it must be to live in USA!?
DnAh3311 5 months ago
@DnAh3311 Scary.
pb1051 5 months ago
wow! a reporter with some balls, excellent work, this man deserves much praise.
murdering americans and not even presenting evidence, much less giving the person a trial, huh? murdering non-americans is just as evil, but this is yet another extremely dangerous precedent.
this is the last straw. the president needs to be impeached.
junior00bacon00chee 5 months ago 62
Jesus..we are riding on a runaway freight train towards tyranny. All aboard?
chriscr123 5 months ago
Ron Paul 2012 before all of our civil liberties slowly start to diminish. AIPAC is taking over.
TheComputerEngineer 5 months ago
He was so "obviously" guilty, that we just decided to ignore the Constitution.
pittski75 5 months ago
I'm as liberal as they come, and I've always had a problem with this administration targeting a U.S. citizen (Awlaki) for assassination. However, at the same time, it's a bit of a gray area. If you know where the guy is and you know he's literally preached death to America and helped people to commit acts of terrorism, then do you risk the life of service members to capture him for trial, or just take him out? Is an innocent's life worth bringing him to trial?
shalcall 5 months ago
@shalcall In consideration that he was in fact an American... yes, they should have attempted to arrest him. I served in the military and I joined understanding such risks were part of that sacrifice. If I take an oath to support and defend the Constitution and further take upon the role of protecting the rights of Americans.. I have a duty to even protect the rights of this man.
By doing such, it would have sent a far more just and morale message to the world. It's a real shame.
brettdusek 5 months ago
@brettdusek So, if I had to choose between having Awlaki assassinated or risking my own life to bring him in, I would always choose the latter.. for as a soldier, I am bound to nothing more superior than to my oath. Not even the Commander-In-Chief is more superior.
brettdusek 5 months ago 3
@brettdusek This really is still a gray area for me. I was a Marine and if Awlaki was on a battlefield with his birth certificate and passport stapled to his chest, if he had a gun, he'd still be shot and killed. If he was a messenger, he'd still be shot and killed. If he was a hostage, being used as a body shield on an active battle field, he'd still be shot and killed. So if you sent the military in to pull him out, he could still be shot and killed (like Osama). Why risk it?
shalcall 5 months ago
@shalcall I agree with you. However, the fact is he wasn't on the battlefield and he didn't have a gun. He was driving in a vehicle with what appears to be another American, when he was attacked by a drone.
Yes, by sending in the military to make an arrest, he very well might have still been shot and killed if he resisted. However, in that instance it would have been just, for the threat would have then been imminent.
It's cowardice how we went about it.
brettdusek 5 months ago
@shalcall
I don't know why you - meaning Americans generally - don't get it. If your President kills people without due process then he is no better than Al Capone or the Mexican drug lords. And that has lowered America's standards to a level on a par with Zimbabwe.
Watch the Young Turks on YouTube at watch?v=ZqgJM35yL-E then tell me you still don't get it.
patrickcorliss 5 months ago
@patrickcorliss Look, I've said repeatedly that I'm uncomfortable with this entire exercise, and if the Reuter's report is accurate, I'm very much against this action and congress should use its oversight role to really delve into this matter. However, the PRINCIPLE of executing U.S. citizens abroad who are actively planning to kill American citizens is not something that I think is a black and white issue. I think it's something that should have a check (congress or the courts).
shalcall 5 months ago
@shalcall, How would you explain the administration's refusal to provide the evidence they supposedly have of his guilt? Your hypothetical starts, "if you know...". Well, if they actually knew he was a terrorist, they should be able to produce the evidence on the basis of which they knew it. If they don't have any evidence, then they didn't know any such thing.
owl235 5 months ago 3
@owl235 You're right that they need to make the case. But I've seen Awlaki's videos (and the FBI is probably watching me because of it, lol). Now yelling fire in a crowded theater is not protected speech, so I'm guessing telling terrorists that it's right and proper to kill Americans from Yemen while associating with other terrorists is probably not protected speech either, but I don't know if the Supreme Court has ruled on that.
But that idea of risking lives to arrest him bothers me.
shalcall 5 months ago
@shalcall Telling sombody to kill someone would be Conspiracy to Commit Murder or something along those lines I would assume. A Fellony. We arrested and tried Timothy McVeigh after the OKC Federal bombing, I don't see why he is any different than other terrorists besides global location. I get what your saying though, it's though.
cooljj82 5 months ago
@cooljj82 Actually if you pay a hit man to murder your wife, that's murder 1 even though you weren't the one to pull the trigger. But yeah, to me, his location is a huge deal. Being within the U.S. border is very different than being outside the U.S. border. So global location really does make a difference. Again, I still think the administration has a responsibility to make the case WHY this man was killed and provide that evidence to the public. But the action itself is a gray area for me
shalcall 5 months ago
@shalcall
The issue isn't whether or not he "helped people to commit acts of terrorism," but rather whether the U.S. President can kill U.S. citizens arbitrarily. If proof of Anwar al-Awlaki's guilt exists, why isn't it being presented?
There's nothing "gray" about it. It's black or white. Either they present evidence or they don't.
MarkReadPickens 5 months ago 3
@shalcall Remember that thing about "Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law"? That was the right of every US citizen, no matter how seemingly monstrous, until this moment. That's not a gray area, that is a line being crossed.
MrAnconsheep 5 months ago 2
@MrAnconsheep It's a gray area when you have to risk the lives of soldiers half way around the world in order to bring that person to justice. You might not think so, but I think most people would agree.
shalcall 5 months ago
While I agree with the line of questioning by Jake Tapper and I think the Obama administration has to provide answers for this, I also know that if this line of questioning had happened during the Bush administration, Jake Tapper would never be allowed within 1000 feet of the white house press room ever again and the word traitor would be on the front page of every right wing blog with respect to these kinds of questions.
shalcall 5 months ago
@shalcall ... Tapper won't be banned from the WH ... Obama can just have him wacked now. Right? (WRONG ... anyone who values their freedom, even their life itself, needs to stand up and oppose this outrageous violation of the Constitution. Obama should be impeached for this above all the other illegal and treasonous activity in which he's engaged.
carlwk3c 5 months ago 2
@carlwk3c I think it's a gray area. The constitution does not say that it is restricted to U.S. citizens. It's laws are applicable (or supposed to be applicable) to ANYONE under U.S. jurisdiction. Yemen isn't in U.S. jurisdiction. Look, I agree, the man should have been tried (even if it was in abstentia). But if you're not on U.S. soil, even if you're a U.S. citizen, can you really say that the constitution protects you?
shalcall 5 months ago
@shalcall The constitution doesn't give people rights or protect them, it restricts goverment. The government is restricted from killing without due process. Obviously. If a US citizen goes on vacation to france can the FBI raid their home? Can the CIA assasinate them on a cruise off of the gulf coast if its far enough out? Lets not go down that path. We are better than that.
cooljj82 5 months ago
@cooljj82 I agree that we are. But there are gray areas even in your statement. The government is restricted from killing without due process. Does that mean the U.S. is prevented from participating in wars due to the 5th amendment? I don't think you'd find a judge that would agree with that. So then you begin laying out the case that war is different and in those semantics you'll have to ask if we're at war with Al-qaeda, if Awlaki is part of al-qaeda etc., etc.
shalcall 5 months ago
Goodbye 5th amendment, hello police state.
davemccarthy707 5 months ago
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I think we know who the real threat is.
internate 5 months ago
1 terrorist down
jetsfan556 5 months ago
I don't know who this Jake Tapper is, but he's a winner in my book for this interrogation alone. FANTASTIC.
OpenYourMindQuaid 5 months ago
@OpenYourMindQuaid He's the ABC News Senior White House Correspondent. Also, he's an all-around awesome dude.
ryanfurness24 5 months ago
Ouch...
John20xd6 5 months ago
i don't mind obama but i think his administration should release proof
jonaslum 5 months ago
Jake Tapper one of those idiot reports thinks his doing his job, really? he don'st know how stupid he looks. These fools job was no where to be found when America was lead in to fictitious war that kill and destroyed the lives hundreds of thousands of people. Now at the death one known terrorist his all over the place
birhan2006 5 months ago
@birhan2006 Jake Tapper wasn't a White House Correspondent during the Bush years. Besides, everyone needs to ask these questions no matter who's in charge.
rightsman123 5 months ago
once again carney has his head handed to him,
its only a matter of time until Jake Tapper moves over to Foxnews, I'm sure he got an earful from his bosses about those tough question of that weasel Carney
Deke1 5 months ago
I love the term pre-emptive war- it really allows so much room for human rights violations and brutality! It's like me thinking that my neighbor is going to cause me problems about the fence I put on the property line cause he was looking at it with a scowl on his face so I go over an attack him cause he "hates freedom" lol
rosiethebear300 5 months ago
This reporter must not have gotten the morning memo. God love him for actually asking serious questions.
dazedcat 5 months ago
Wow, you're worried about the rights of a former US Citizen that planned to kill hundreds or thousands of Americans? He was the “chief of external operations” for Al-Qaida. It's not just some "guy" we picked up to shake down. This is the worst of the worst who would kill you morons & not miss a wink of sleep
Bolgernow 5 months ago
@Bolgernow how do you know he was "chief of external operations" for Al Qaida ? Because they just said so?
Al Qaida: Shortly before his untimely death, former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook told the House of Commons that "Al Qaeda" is not really a terrorist group but a database of international mujaheddin and arms smugglers used by the CIA and Saudis to funnel guerrillas, arms, and money into Soviet-occupied Afghanistan. The whole terrorist thing is a hoax to take your freedom -wake up!
rosiethebear300 5 months ago
@rosiethebear300 how thick is the padding in your troll cell?
Bolgernow 5 months ago
RON PAUL2012
Panchee123 5 months ago
Go JAKE!!! What a death penalty traitor treasonous piece of shit this treasonous bastard is.......Obama I mean
Panchee123 5 months ago 3
carney is a spineless worm. he's a dangerous idiot yes man for an even more dangerous idiot president.
Muzzy337 5 months ago
Here is the problem, at about 2:20 forward for a bit:
Tapper: Do you not see at all, does the administration not see at all how a president asserting that he has the right to kill an american citizen without due process, and that he’s not going to even explain why he thinks he has that right..is troublesome to some people?
Carney: I wasn’t aware of any of those things that you said actually happening.
That is to say, Carney and Obama are not aware of anyone being troubled by these actions.
RegularOldName 5 months ago
Thank you, Jake!
EmilTheFallen 5 months ago
Secret prisons...secret trials...secret parts of Patriot Act, not so secret torture...total surveillance...perpetual war. Nice...
MrNoblemanoflove 5 months ago
@MrNoblemanoflove Ya! What a world they've created.
rosiethebear300 5 months ago
Guys like this Awlaki would not even exist if it wasn't for America's aggressive foreign policy for past 50 years, undermining the nations of the middle east. Don't you see that the unintentional death of innocents over there leads to animosity that empowers guys like this to do worst things imaginable to people.
rightsman123 5 months ago 20
@rightsman123 I personally believe the whole terrorism thing since and including 9/11 is a lie. But I totally agree with your point and this has been even expressed by bigger people - If there weren't terrorists already, there sure the hell are now! Thanks US and NATO! However, don't worry - security is so damn good in the states - they'd never get in for real.
rosiethebear300 5 months ago
@rightsman123 So what was the excuse prior to us going over there, or do you honestly think the hatred and violence in the middle East began after 9/11, or even anytime in the last several hundred years?
JLVA1983 4 months ago
@JLVA1983 Well you know I do think interventionist policies and ideas have been with us since the dawn of civilization and it only leads me to the conclusion that it only inspires more hatred and blood feuds among people of many differences. The need for control of the world and our insecurity and nonacceptance of its chaos, plus the bounties that territorial expansion and treasures it produces give government the incentive. It is not the ideal, war never is and is not what we should aspire to.
rightsman123 4 months ago
@rightsman123 Well said!
JLVA1983 4 months ago 4
Whoa. Was this video filmed in real time or is it a cut-and-paste job? Granted, the podiumed man has an impossible job in trying to defend unconstitutional assassinations, but it is rare to catch the talking heads squirm so much ;)
raleighb53 5 months ago
The U.S. government is a joke.
TheItchyFetus 5 months ago
i love this journalist...... this is incredible man...... but nobody cares man
JUANO510 5 months ago
@sonlightmind83
Have you seen the MIAC report? You might be surprised at who already is being called "terrorists", including those who fly Gadsden Flags, those who support Ron Paul, those who defend their right to own and bear arms, and those who are "survivalists" and stock up on water and supplies to protect their families.
mczerone 5 months ago
@mczerone ... yea, us normal, non-marxist, non-totalitarian types REALLY need to watch our backs (and above) now ... Obama has just set the precedent for assassinating American citizens without due process ... granted that "Al" was probably deserving of a death sentence, but ONLY by due process, NOT by presidential order without due process or evidence. If he's allowed to get away with this, his political opponents will follow shortly after.
carlwk3c 5 months ago
They've officially changed "innocent until proven guilty" to "guilty until proven dead".
This is the most disheartening video I've seen in a long time, the regime is out of lies.
mczerone 5 months ago
RON PAUL 2012! SAVE OUR CONSTITUTION!
Raimunelar 5 months ago
I like the end "What do you think constitutional law professor Barack Obama would think about this?" I wonder if that stings at all?
KHCloud 5 months ago
Proof? Who needs proof? Just kill any American you wish big govt. We trust you'll make a good judgement seeing how you've buried my country and our future in trillions in Debt.
JebBlack2010 5 months ago
To those who think it was okay for the government to kill this guy (and i will concede for the sake of the argument that he is guilty) - The true price for being okay with the the government suspending the constitution for something you feel acceptable is, one day, they will suspend it for something you will be completely opposed. Are you okay with that price? I am not!!
andycbradford 5 months ago 2
They should have captured him & brought him to trial.
KenMacMillan 5 months ago 2
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jake tapper shut to fu%& up man,, ,,only in america... they want then to atack us so they can blame obama then,,,,Not gonna happen.. fuck terrorist,, fuck u jake tapper...
nicepapi25 5 months ago
@nicepapi25
Huh? The reporter, if you watched the video, simply asked "where is some proof this guy posed an imminent threat or was otherwise guilty of what you charge him with?"
The White House spokesman was dumbfounded that someone dared to question the official story, and obviously had no answer as to what this "terrorist" actually did. It was a little Freudian the way he even stumbled over the word "terrorist" in the middle of the video, like he couldn't honestly say he was one.
mczerone 5 months ago 2
However in this matter I think he made his position known on the value he placed in his U.S. citizenship and that he got what he deserved.
eltonej 5 months ago
Terrorist activity is why. Could this right be somewhere in the Patriot Act? For the President to have the authority to watch, trap and kill any terrorist, or U.S. Citizen branded a Terrorist, deemed a Threat to National Security. Or something like that? Ever since 9/11 and Bush?
eltonej 5 months ago