So just think you might have had a chance to fight in the Crimean War, the American Civil War, the Franco-Prussian War, The Spanish American War, or the Boer War.
So much for peace--World War 1 darkly awaits in the future.
Cape Hope, Kaap de Goede Hoop, was established in the 17th century as a post for ships on their way to Indonesia. Due to internal problems, religion, people from the Netherlands moved there to escape " prosecution " , after a while they moved in land. The Bushman was at that time the only person living there. De Boers as they were called were a sturdy lot, living by the Bible and the Gun they conquered/occupied SA, after god was discovered the Brits moved in and claimed it.
Very similar to the American War of Independence, that is to say it was fought by and for the "freedom" of a very tiny white landowning ruling class, the common people (in S. Africa's case the black people), having no property or money, could only stand by while the ruling classes of both countries fought each other with their money in such a "glorious" way.
American Independence didn't abolish slavery, and S. African Independence resulted in Apartheid.
liberal historian fails to say that the boers carved out the republics with their own blood sweat and tears. arrogant british would not allow the boers to have their own land.
@sten971 Arrogant, racist posters fail to say that every square inch of the Boer ‘republics’ was stolen from the Blacks who they murdered and enslaved. Fuck the Boers.
@Wingatewasright It takes two to tango. Read Wikipedia article "Battle of bloodriver". Its popular to villainise Boers. To do so is to perpetrate the same crimes they did a few decades on from the Boer War (and partly because of it). Careful Captain Ahab, don't go down with the white whale...
@Mayvellies No, it takes one group of Dutch religious lunatics to travel 12,000 miles to someone else’s land and steal it then whinge to the world that they are poor, mis-understood victims.
@Wingatewasright Oh dear, what a broad generalisation, that doesn't meant they all believed that now does it? The Boers arrived in SA for many different reasons, such as the promise of land and to escape religious persecution from Catholics in Europe, they weren't perfect, but who is. And just in case you're wondering, I am NOT Afrikaans, I just had to do a bit of study on the issue.
@FTPITV Most Boers of this era were poorly educated (the Bible often being the only book they were familiar with) and products of devoutly religious societies. The point about Kruger I made, that you missed, was that an educated, free thing, religiously open society is unlikely to elect a Biblically inspired flat-Earther as it leader.
@Wingatewasright True, very true, but you're talking about a very different time, there still weren't too many 'educated, free thing, religiously open societies around at this time'. Granted the Afrikaaners were deeply religious, indeed, many, if not a a majority, still are, but Kruger was elected more for his opposition to British Imperialism rather than his religion views. I highly doubt the majority of Afrikaaners were flat Earthers at the turn of the century.
@FTPITV I have no doubt that men like Smuts and de la Rey were educated, thinking men but they were still products of their time and place and were hardly representative of the societies that produced them. I have no doubt the their religious upbringing fostered in them an isolationist, exclusive mentality. One that Smuts rejected bur de la Ray never did.
@Wingatewasright Yeah, but I think given their geographic circumstances they were always going to foster an isolationist attitude, with or without religion, but fair enough religion didn't help, you might have guessed at this stage that I'm not exactly the biggest fan of religion either
@Wingatewasright The Boer (Dutch word for farmer) is a God fearing nation and nowhere in the bible does it state that the world is flat "Old Boy". Any Brit must rather stay quite about SA and rather read their own history of stealing other people's land and oppresion (India, Scotland, Ireland etc). Do you know about the consentrations camps? Crimes against humanity and war criminals.
@Wingatewasright You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about! Even if they did was this not what the US did to the Indians, the Australians to the Aborigonies, the British/New Zealanders to the Maori, the british to the Indians, South Africans, Scots, Irish... Do you even know that there a a huge amount of black tribes in SA that stole the land from each other? Your ignorance is only surpased by your foul language. Learn some manners and history before making comments
@Wingatewasright Why are you so upset at the boer people? I am realy interested to understand your hatred for them? If you can please respond without the foul language
@suspicious35 You were saying? Was that it? Everybody with brain knows that. While english might not be my first(not even second) language, I do know what a (and to)"Channel" is. my remark was pointed towardst the fact that the History Channel PICKED it and aired it with its infamous mark for a reason....
@000000AEA000000 That doesn't mean as much as you think. They simply bought the rights to a show that had already been made becuase it was cheaper than making a new documentary.
@suspicious35 PS: The accent is fairly modest for their pick, its not surprising at all, and adds weight into the conclusion that one will not have what a man should search for in the sake of valuable report. A documentation about the boers with a british orator and aired by the history channel can only get one way, nobody with an understandment of those countries needs to be surprised.
But you sure may watch it while keeping this in mind.
the english are the biggest theives on the planet they even stole england, the british are primarily anglo saxon dane and a bit of norman blood, who pushed the britons out beginning in 500ad and the fall of roman briton the real britons were exilied to wales cronwall and brittany in france..have you ever heard of the welsh taking another mans land?
@MrBillcale the native britons arent one single group and so to class welsh and cornish and scottish etc as the same people wouldnt be recieved well by any of them. tracing the origins of peoples back thousands of years is such a pointless thing to do as everyone in the world is from all over the place and made up of different groups and cultures. p.s the "welsh" took each others land, "english" land and were part of the british forces that built the empire taking everyone elses land
@SocialistJustice Nations do not think, they only feel. They get their feelings at second hand through their temperaments, not their brains.
- "What is Man?" my ancestors were alamanni and gens Francorum franks WE SHOULD STOP LOOKING AT THINGS AS NATIONS AND RETRUN TO the concept of tribe.. because that is where blood is from
@MrBillcale tribe is an outdated and impossible concept in a world of 7 billion people. blood is merely a biological part of the body and denotes nothing about your character or origin. people are all the same despite man made geographical labels such as nationality or ethnic group. the only real existing scientific differences are race and they only show physical differences
@SocialistJustice yeah right and socialism is a viable economic model, spoken like a true semi literate psuedo intellectual, how the hell did you nit wits ever manage an empire??
@MrBillcale Of course socialism is a viable economic model fool. How exactly can i be writing to you now if i'm semi literate. Also socialists are completely anti imperalists so your moronic statement shows how anything you say or feel on important issues such as identity and nationality should be totally disregarded. i will also say than anyone who thinks that that the peoples of the world should live in a tribal structure is hilarious. My previous messages points were science, yours ignorance
@SocialistJustice i used to live with anarcho primitivists they thought it was a grand idea, at the time ti thought they were drug addled in fact i think they were merely tapped into something primal, thee is something primal about a squat
No one really gave a damn in fact im sure the Netherlands and Germany were happy to have the war going on seeing how they likely made monster profits off the war in terms of sale of arms
do you have any lovely pictures of the british consetration camps, love seeing boars suffer
jamaicangoodguy 3 days ago
@jamaicangoodguy Not very "Good guy" of you, good sir.
TheMeanSgtPlaysPiano 1 day ago
what s the benjo song in the background about ?
anticonformista123 1 week ago
So just think you might have had a chance to fight in the Crimean War, the American Civil War, the Franco-Prussian War, The Spanish American War, or the Boer War.
So much for peace--World War 1 darkly awaits in the future.
RPenta 4 weeks ago
So this is history...DAM
FearJews 1 month ago
"oetlander " uitlander or forener infedel
TheBoeremag 1 month ago
Cape Hope, Kaap de Goede Hoop, was established in the 17th century as a post for ships on their way to Indonesia. Due to internal problems, religion, people from the Netherlands moved there to escape " prosecution " , after a while they moved in land. The Bushman was at that time the only person living there. De Boers as they were called were a sturdy lot, living by the Bible and the Gun they conquered/occupied SA, after god was discovered the Brits moved in and claimed it.
Tralgit 1 month ago
Very similar to the American War of Independence, that is to say it was fought by and for the "freedom" of a very tiny white landowning ruling class, the common people (in S. Africa's case the black people), having no property or money, could only stand by while the ruling classes of both countries fought each other with their money in such a "glorious" way.
American Independence didn't abolish slavery, and S. African Independence resulted in Apartheid.
Crosmando 1 month ago
@Crosmando Not at all similar, what's with the american consensus that all things done in this world has to relate to the USA
latvian012 1 month ago
BARBARIANS VS BARBARIANS IN FOREIGN COUNTRY
unfukkkmee 2 months ago
liberal historian fails to say that the boers carved out the republics with their own blood sweat and tears. arrogant british would not allow the boers to have their own land.
sten971 2 months ago
@sten971 Arrogant, racist posters fail to say that every square inch of the Boer ‘republics’ was stolen from the Blacks who they murdered and enslaved. Fuck the Boers.
Wingatewasright 1 month ago
@Wingatewasright It takes two to tango. Read Wikipedia article "Battle of bloodriver". Its popular to villainise Boers. To do so is to perpetrate the same crimes they did a few decades on from the Boer War (and partly because of it). Careful Captain Ahab, don't go down with the white whale...
Mayvellies 1 month ago
@Mayvellies No, it takes one group of Dutch religious lunatics to travel 12,000 miles to someone else’s land and steal it then whinge to the world that they are poor, mis-understood victims.
Wingatewasright 1 month ago
@Wingatewasright "Moby Dick seeks thee not. It is thou, thou, that madly seekest him!".
—Moby-Dick, Ch. 135
Mayvellies 1 month ago
@Wingatewasright They weren't religious lunatics
FTPITV 4 weeks ago
@FTPITV Their President thought the world was flat because of what was written in the Bible old boy. They were religious lunatics.
Wingatewasright 4 weeks ago
@Wingatewasright Oh dear, what a broad generalisation, that doesn't meant they all believed that now does it? The Boers arrived in SA for many different reasons, such as the promise of land and to escape religious persecution from Catholics in Europe, they weren't perfect, but who is. And just in case you're wondering, I am NOT Afrikaans, I just had to do a bit of study on the issue.
FTPITV 4 weeks ago
@FTPITV Most Boers of this era were poorly educated (the Bible often being the only book they were familiar with) and products of devoutly religious societies. The point about Kruger I made, that you missed, was that an educated, free thing, religiously open society is unlikely to elect a Biblically inspired flat-Earther as it leader.
Wingatewasright 4 weeks ago
@Wingatewasright True, very true, but you're talking about a very different time, there still weren't too many 'educated, free thing, religiously open societies around at this time'. Granted the Afrikaaners were deeply religious, indeed, many, if not a a majority, still are, but Kruger was elected more for his opposition to British Imperialism rather than his religion views. I highly doubt the majority of Afrikaaners were flat Earthers at the turn of the century.
FTPITV 4 weeks ago
@FTPITV I have no doubt that men like Smuts and de la Rey were educated, thinking men but they were still products of their time and place and were hardly representative of the societies that produced them. I have no doubt the their religious upbringing fostered in them an isolationist, exclusive mentality. One that Smuts rejected bur de la Ray never did.
Wingatewasright 4 weeks ago
@Wingatewasright Yeah, but I think given their geographic circumstances they were always going to foster an isolationist attitude, with or without religion, but fair enough religion didn't help, you might have guessed at this stage that I'm not exactly the biggest fan of religion either
FTPITV 4 weeks ago
@Wingatewasright The Boer (Dutch word for farmer) is a God fearing nation and nowhere in the bible does it state that the world is flat "Old Boy". Any Brit must rather stay quite about SA and rather read their own history of stealing other people's land and oppresion (India, Scotland, Ireland etc). Do you know about the consentrations camps? Crimes against humanity and war criminals.
Raboebi 3 weeks ago
@Wingatewasright You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about! Even if they did was this not what the US did to the Indians, the Australians to the Aborigonies, the British/New Zealanders to the Maori, the british to the Indians, South Africans, Scots, Irish... Do you even know that there a a huge amount of black tribes in SA that stole the land from each other? Your ignorance is only surpased by your foul language. Learn some manners and history before making comments
Raboebi 3 weeks ago
@Raboebi Fuck off cocksucker and take your Nazi sympathising propaganda with you.
Wingatewasright 3 weeks ago
@Wingatewasright Why are you so upset at the boer people? I am realy interested to understand your hatred for them? If you can please respond without the foul language
Raboebi 3 weeks ago
@Raboebi i dont know i am a boer so i dont understand.. but if hated is what they want then thats what they get
MRgmgoose 2 weeks ago
What is the name of that folk song? It's not Sarie Marais is it? (I don't speak Afrikaans obviously).
1867Canadian 2 months ago
sadly History Channel again. This will be biased, so I pass.
000000AEA000000 2 months ago 2
@000000AEA000000 You do realize the history channel doesn't actually make everthying it airs. Note the accent here.
suspicious35 1 month ago
@suspicious35 You were saying? Was that it? Everybody with brain knows that. While english might not be my first(not even second) language, I do know what a (and to)"Channel" is. my remark was pointed towardst the fact that the History Channel PICKED it and aired it with its infamous mark for a reason....
000000AEA000000 1 month ago
@000000AEA000000 That doesn't mean as much as you think. They simply bought the rights to a show that had already been made becuase it was cheaper than making a new documentary.
suspicious35 1 month ago
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@suspicious35 PS: The accent is fairly modest for their pick, its not surprising at all, and adds weight into the conclusion that one will not have what a man should search for in the sake of valuable report. A documentation about the boers with a british orator and aired by the history channel can only get one way, nobody with an understandment of those countries needs to be surprised.
But you sure may watch it while keeping this in mind.
000000AEA000000 1 month ago
fasinating
coinlog1 3 months ago
awesome, "bla bla to the people of transvaal" *shows picture with orange freestate flag* gg.
PvH024 4 months ago
the english are the biggest theives on the planet they even stole england, the british are primarily anglo saxon dane and a bit of norman blood, who pushed the britons out beginning in 500ad and the fall of roman briton the real britons were exilied to wales cronwall and brittany in france..have you ever heard of the welsh taking another mans land?
MrBillcale 4 months ago in playlist The War File - The Boer War
@MrBillcale the native britons arent one single group and so to class welsh and cornish and scottish etc as the same people wouldnt be recieved well by any of them. tracing the origins of peoples back thousands of years is such a pointless thing to do as everyone in the world is from all over the place and made up of different groups and cultures. p.s the "welsh" took each others land, "english" land and were part of the british forces that built the empire taking everyone elses land
SocialistJustice 4 months ago
@SocialistJustice Nations do not think, they only feel. They get their feelings at second hand through their temperaments, not their brains.
- "What is Man?" my ancestors were alamanni and gens Francorum franks WE SHOULD STOP LOOKING AT THINGS AS NATIONS AND RETRUN TO the concept of tribe.. because that is where blood is from
MrBillcale 4 months ago
@MrBillcale tribe is an outdated and impossible concept in a world of 7 billion people. blood is merely a biological part of the body and denotes nothing about your character or origin. people are all the same despite man made geographical labels such as nationality or ethnic group. the only real existing scientific differences are race and they only show physical differences
SocialistJustice 4 months ago
@SocialistJustice yeah right and socialism is a viable economic model, spoken like a true semi literate psuedo intellectual, how the hell did you nit wits ever manage an empire??
MrBillcale 4 months ago
@MrBillcale Of course socialism is a viable economic model fool. How exactly can i be writing to you now if i'm semi literate. Also socialists are completely anti imperalists so your moronic statement shows how anything you say or feel on important issues such as identity and nationality should be totally disregarded. i will also say than anyone who thinks that that the peoples of the world should live in a tribal structure is hilarious. My previous messages points were science, yours ignorance
SocialistJustice 4 months ago
@SocialistJustice i used to live with anarcho primitivists they thought it was a grand idea, at the time ti thought they were drug addled in fact i think they were merely tapped into something primal, thee is something primal about a squat
MrBillcale 4 months ago
good documentary
Renegen1 5 months ago 2
I don't care about the boar war, but I do know that south africans make the best biltong
Clarkview 6 months ago
And they still sing ,"Kill the Boer. HIstory never ceases to amaze. Seems like a waste of time though.
THX1146 6 months ago
"Ootlanders" ?!? WTF! It's "uitlanders" you stupid twit!
AirsoftComrade 7 months ago
No one really gave a damn in fact im sure the Netherlands and Germany were happy to have the war going on seeing how they likely made monster profits off the war in terms of sale of arms
76tammystanley 8 months ago
WHY DIDN'T NETHERLANDS CAME TO AID THE BOERS?
Microglia1 8 months ago