Spaceballs - State of the Art (Amiga Demo Scene)

[LSDatWORK]

fucking 90's

[TemDMindu]

So - silly question - how much bigger is the .flv file than the floppy disc?

And which company is that silly question a shot at?

[99millahtime]

These guys sure love their house music..

[BtizeF200]

wow forgot about this. played it to death on my old miggy :D

[ulmeulme]

amazing stuff

[djrikki2008]

checkout the all-new amigaos website: amigaos.net

[otacon451]

If anyone wants to see this recut for a music video, look up 'Letherette - Compute'

[Japarzam]

What electronic music subgenre is this song? Techno? HI-NRG? Eurodance? Trance?

[Crownw3]

@Japarzam

Sounds like run of the mill Techno Rave music

[LordVarkson]

Hell, I'm impressed with this now, it must have been mindblowing back then.

[xsanchezz]

good old times...........

[MalikArt]

That runs perfectly on my Amiga 600, but not on my older Amiga 1000 :( Same with 9fingers

[Skylight1971]

@MalikArt

How much RAM does ur A1000 have?

You will need at least 1MB including 512kB Chip-RAM.

So it will run fine on a stock A600 with 1MB Chip-RAM.

But a stock A1k does have only 256kB Chip-RAM and a 256kB RAM-Expansion is still not enough.

[jci10]

@Skylight1971 Huh? I have a Amiga 1000 with an expansion to 1 meg?!?

[Ravenuscze]

freakin luv this music and vid ;)

[mokkabjorg]

""""""""""""Keiserns Nye klær""""""""""

YA lame code YA lame trackloader ser jevlig bra ut da. Elle? Hore?

[keoni29]

Vector graphics?

[kejkz]

still incredible after all those years

[majorfubar69]

My Pentium 4 laptop - ancient by PC standards but technically lightyears ahead of the Amiga I played this on in 1993 - can't play this YouTube video without 'juddering' in random places (not necessarily the same place each time so it's not a fault of the internet/youtube).. What does that tell you about shit PCs...

[spacinandy69]

GURU MEDITATION!! AHH REMEMBER WATCHING THIS IN STUNNED SILENCE, THIS WAS A GROUNDBREAKING DEMO PROVING THE POWER OF DECENT CODING RATHER THAN 8MILLION GIGS OF SHIT WE GET NOW, PRODUCING A MUSIC VIDEO THAT LOOKS AND SOUNDS IMPRESSIVE ON ONE FLOPPY DISC AND UNDER 1MEG! TRY GET A PC TO DO THAT ON 1MEG, IVE STILL GOT MY 500 AND PLUS AND 1200 AND THERE DUE A DUST OF AND A TRIP DOWN THE LANE, DOES ANYONE RECALL THE MUSIC DEMO MEAN MACHINE? HAD THE MOST AWESOME AMIGA MUSIC ON IT AND I WANT IT AGAIN

[mokkabjorg]

@spacinandy69 EXACTLY HOW MANY SOCKS YOU SMOKE - O N A DAILY BASIS?

[DemonPete]

@spacinandy69 This demo was mindblowing at the time as was the Jesus On E's Demo which was he reason I had to buy a second floppy drive !!!! Youtube it!

[5kehhn]

I don't think they make 'em like they used to.

[DemonPete]

I would still challenge ANY modern PC to be able to do this from just 880K of input data

[Ruzgfpegk]

@DemonPete There are a lot ot 64K demos out there on PC... even some 4K which have more content than this video ! Just check pouet.net. For instance, there's "chaos theory 4k" released this month, which is a quite impressive piece of work.

[Galaad1]

@Ruzgfpegk : yes, but those 4k are built upon Windows' heavy API, full of functions, when the Amiga Demos are pure asm code with no call to the system: the coders are left to themselves.

[MrSmirker]

Holy crap!  I remember being blown away by this in the day.

[Sanches90s]

Amiga forever!!!!

[angelodomino]

Amiga's are f*cking great machines...

[Zontar82]

25 people owned a nintendo apparently..-_-

[CRYP77]

Yeah, i still have this demo. It's AWESOME! ^_^

[jam76swe]

I remember ripping all the sounds from this module, and having a lot of fun with them. This was a milestone...

[pauladenisefatagnus]

Man... Sh|t.... AT the end of an "amiga" youtube search query WTF !?????? Top No 1 First ,whatever...

[fortysixfish]

I honestly don't get it

[lolYOULOSTTHEGAMElol]

@fortysixfish It's a demo! Teams of programmers would attempt to push the capabilities of a system as far as they would go in order to show off their programming skills - the presentation above would be stored on a 880k floppy disk and the visuals/music would be computed in real time. A very impressive achievement given the technology available at the time. Read up on the Amiga "demoscene" for more.

[antokosse]

@fortysixfish

just imagine 1 floppy disk with it on it

[pixelsmack]

I had customers that REFUSED to believe all this was coming from a single floppy disc. I had to show them repeatedly. FANTASTIC sales tool back in the day.

[NedsMissingTeeth]

@pixelsmack My Uncle used to work in Tandy's where they sold Amigas and other computers. This demo was the thing that made me choose an amiga. It was playing as the demonstration and it took my head of with just how cool the amiga was. My amiga years were some of the best in my life : )

[Mishkah52]

lol, this takes me back. Truth is I still have a disk with this on somewhere, only thing being I have nothing to play it on.

[bombheadful]

old days BEST DAYS

[interlud1200]

il y a 20 ans quand les PC ressemblés a des minitel voila ce que faisait l' Amiga de commodore !!

[Janusha]

I knew the guys that made this. Cool to see it again.

[DeckerFI]

Youtube framerate destroys the strobe effect at the end. :)

[psycopower90]

The last twenty two seconds of music remind me of mortal kombat, somehow.

[monkriddler]

20 years ago this was made and it still looks great

[jpelczar]

PCs had been worthless piece of crap compared to the Amiga and its capabilities back then.

[DS1221]

when i first saw this demo my jaw dropped.

[F0gstridEr]

@DS1221 word!I remeber i had to sit down :) ha ha ha ha

[stefnancy54]

i remember that the demo was begining half a second after putting the floppy in my A500. It was very impressive.

[nexusone1984]

At the end he could not figure out why it won??

Demo featuring a girl, voted on by a group of Teenage programmers and hackers....Duh!

I loved my Amiga......

[Nosfera7u2006]

I just love this demo :-)

Commodore Amiga is still the greatest machine ever build !!!!

[B1SCOOP]

I can hear here few organ samples from James Brown is Dead by LA Style

[Capsulagr]

@B1SCOOP or you can hear in James Brown is Dead some samples from this demo :P xexe really i cant remember when lastyle track was released, but it was on of my favorites. :)

[ShadowriverUB]

Amiga was beast hardware, machine made in late 80s later running games ported from SNES that is what is in mid 90s tells for it self

[HyperCenturion]

0:26

MAJOR ASSHOLE

XDDDD

[KlavarRecordings]

Lol smogs

Mention to say Amiga 1200

[KlavarRecordings]

I absolutely loved that Vid in 1998 on MA smogs 1200 that and Octamed is what got me into music today now owning my own studio bangin out tunes of a summarise style

Awsome

[airdog77]

I can compile this demo only in 880 megabytes using modern compilers!

[steveski74]

I remember this was the most notoriously temperamental demo ever made. it was so customised that it only worked on very specific hardware. I recall having updated my A500 to 2mb CHIP RAM and Kickstart 2.0 and this wouldn't run at all. I also had the switcher to go back to 1.3 and still no joy. These were the days when programmers really new their hardware and wrote highly optimised code.

[SeverityOne]

"...a home computer from the early 90's..."

Make that mid 80's.

[Kylamiis]

@SeverityOne : This demo was released around christmas 1992 and started to circulate in 1993

[SeverityOne]

@Kylamiis Correct, but the hardware it would run on (stock A500/A1000/A2000) was no different in 1992 from when the A1000 was released, in 1985.

[weaselfierce]

26 people liked windows 3.1

[tuthamon]

OOOhhh... long time ago.

I remeber when this demo came out. Damn it was fantastic.

Makes me look for my old amiga and start making music again. :P

[zupperm]

Where are the spinning textured cubes? This is the worst demo ever! j/k I love it

[amiger421]

I loved this demo, and in 2011 it still rocks!

[71JOEBLOGGS]

Watch my dual core pc with 4 gig of ram struggle to run this under winuae.what a piece if shit.i think i'll turn on my 1200 with just 6 meg of ram and watch it run perfectly.actually it will run on a 500 with just 512k.amiga still rulez!

[kinmanyuen]

This is pure 1.44mb programming without today's crappy chunky commercialized software adaptations. Bigger isn't better.

[Rako692]

@kinmanyuen

amiga floppy is only 880 kb.....

[kinmanyuen]

@Rako692

super!

[MultiMarwell]

@kinmanyuen this stuff is is about 650 kB packed only (Amiga floppy have 880 Kb unpacked)

[mephisto40]

The Amiga was the birth place of true rave music

[DJOVERDOSEMUNICH]

@mephisto40

Absolutely correct!

[surfitlive]

AS I scrolled down the page on this Intel Core 2 DUO T7500 @ 2.2 GHZ Laptop with 2Gigs of RAM, >512MB Video RAM, 80 GB HardDrive, & GOD knows how much audio ram(nowhere did I find specs for the audio ram!!) The video & mouse froze, while the music STILL played and I lost control of the computer/screen and had to wait for WINDOZE to come back from its 'coffe break' that it likes to so OFTEN take. (every 2-3 minutes or even less the longer I use it after the last cold boot)

Amiga Never did this.

[MrKajko2]

To jedno z najlepszych demek na Amcię,do tej pory lubię to oglądać.Pozdrowienia dla wszystkich amigowców

[MrKajko2]

To jedno z najlepszych demek na Amcię,do tej pory lubię to oglądać.Pozdrowienia dla wszystkich amigowców

[2yearlimitedwarranty]

I remeber how much I used to love going to my friends house to watch these demos. I had a PC he had an Amiga. No such thing was available on the PC at that time. Then Wolfenstein came out and it all changed. The Amiga didn't have anyhting like it available. It was like the Amiga couldn't do 3D.

[McE78]

I wish Amiga and commodore had survived. It is sad that it is gone. I hate the bloated win7. I wish Workbench had evolved until this day.

[ShadowriverUB]

@McE78 Try linux then :) it's much closer to wb

[vaughanyp]

@McE78 Ubuntu, mate. Closest I can get to an Amiga for all my desktop needs. :)

[thedarkdragon735]

@McE78 it has, its known as Amiga os 4.0

[TheSwanies]

@McE78 Yeah, WIN7 is too unstable to use for anything else then office work

[Doddsy]

@McE78

would love to see windows run on 7meg! imagine the speedup on games and utils! (7meg i think for workbench, storage,locate etc) R.I.P amiga! ....THUMBS UP IF UD BY A NEXT GEN AMIGA(obv if it had a PCTask/crossDOS emulation so we could play everything we have bought for the pc )

[anunnaki2006]

@McE78 Amiga OS 4.1 soon 4.2 and the E-on Amiga X1000

[MuziKFreak009]

@McE78 I still have an Amiga 500 that works!

[GenghisKhan44]

I might understand this better if I grew up with an Amiga.

[ishkx]

The captures on YT do the original little justice, at least this one seems properly synched.

The reason demos can be contained within such limited space is, that a demo is not video+music, it is a program that instructs the computer to do this task--directly. The team behind SotA controlled everything down to the transistor, every routine written directly for the hardware. Many criticized SotA for its lack of code back then (bad 3d/load, digitized gfx) but I loved it and so did non-coders :)

[GenghisKhan44]

@ishkx Oh, I see. :-D

Can a Windows pull off this kind of miracle-working, too?

[ishkx]

@GenghisKhan44 Any modern computer with graphics and sound can pull such things off:D

Think of a demo as a program on the same level as Windows. Instead of booting your computer into Windows, you boot it into "State of the Art".

Your computer can now do one thing only: make a girl dance on the screen to music. The program, along with the necessary data, can then be contained within very little space. Development of the necessary routines were facilitated by the long life of the Amiga hardware.

[demoremda]

lol still have this on floppy, good times

[patrutiss]

this demo was one one floppy disk ,good coders back then..

[GenghisKhan44]

I find it more amazing that that could fit on a floppy disk. Are you SURE that didn't require a CD (were Amigas ever equipped to use CDs?)?

[LogiForce86]

@GenghisKhan44 Amiga's we're never equiped with cd's. My Amiga 2000 (which I still own and is in working order) only has a 5,25" floppy drive and a 3,5" DD diskdrive. DD meaning Double Density and has only 720 KB on capacity (on Amiga 880 SD) and HD High Density (pc floppy drives) can take up to 1.44MB or 1440KB (to keep it simple as there is not a 1000 but 1028 bytes counted promille).

So nope, this is all on a simple disk of 880MB max (if its the original drive)

[GenghisKhan44]

@LogiForce86 I don't believe this.

Seeing actual pixels would be incredibly reassuring.

[GenghisKhan44]

@LogiForce86 Yes. I am intimidated.

[LogiForce86]

@GenghisKhan44 Then don't believe it. Or just buy a second hand Amiga 2000 or higher. And play a bit with it yourself. They shouldn't be that expensive anymore ;)

I know the Amiga could easily do this, as i've used it for years myself ^^

[LogiForce86]

@GenghisKhan44 On another hand, found it on youtube: tinyurl /39mmqwb

Filesize: 660 KB

Again, have fun getting your Amiga emulator to work and see for yourself :D

[nicholasthetaylor]

@LogiForce86 I thought it would worth adding for the benefit of Genghiskhan44 that the CDTV was the first CD equipped Amiga. It was released in the early 90s.

[DerDendrologe]

Great! I was looking for this demo since 2001. My State of the art demo disc died and even discdoctor couldn't help...

[snaforfun]

@DerDendrologe ... use Amiga emulator it works perfect

[bloodredbracelet]

i feel so open listen to this kind off music:D

[blanker666]

Amiga Rules !!!

[0Jebus0]

I think I watched this as if in trance at least a hundred times as a kid. Not a joke. Well it might be, but it's on me if so.

[Raunchola]

Absolutely brilliant what this machine was capable of in these days! Still got my Amiga500 and my C64s :)

[HooiSeven]

I am still looking for a demo with dancing arabs in it. Cant remember the name.

[perspectivehorizon]

9 finger OMG

[djrikki2008]

Check out the new amiga coming out very soon, just search: Amiga X1000 in your favourite search engine!

[zeNinjan]

1 more to like and we will be 666.

[victorbarovsky]

Now I know where apple stole the idea for their iPod commercials.

[Ashtree81]

Demo scene back in the day really made the most of what they had to work with.

The Amiga 500 CPU ran at a mere 7 Mhz!!!

This demo hade the best music track of them all IMO!

[LemonAndYoghurt]

could you make these cool video effects w. just the amiga ??

[nicolunacba]

@LemonAndYoghurt on real time ;)

[poopskinTheLiar]

@LemonAndYoghurt In it's time, the Amiga was more or less the standard in things like that.

[weaselfierce]

@LemonAndYoghurt yeah, this is 100% miggy :)

[revolutionactiondk]

I would LOVE to have this demo on retrogamersunited . com One of my all time favs!

[RoboRob2006]

OMG I miss the hours of watching, playing and composing (not very good at it) with the Amiga 500. Specially liked the game IK+

[jibbzon]

Sorry, but i see this demo only now. I'm never used any ammy. I see this demo like a simple man, not coder or gfx. Yes, i'm bit like create music, but this demo not like 2 me, forgive me =) Peace.

[kristjanrattus]

That was the bomb! Old school. Good old times...

[RonTaboga]

When this came out, the PC had its EGA card and Adlib Cards. The Amiga was such a freaking great machine at those times!

[ballebanan]

@RonTaboga

Well, at the time that this demo came out, the PC -could- do the same. But the only difference was that you needed a $1500 PC to do it, whereas a $400 Amiga did the job just fine :P

[bucuwapl]

fuckin awesome

this shit brings back sooo many good memories

precalced? so fuckin what?

i was a teen when this came out. i've had a600 and this shit didnt work. thank god that SkidRow debugged it !

[jetaro63]

whatever happened to these guys? this was before there was any commercial software to help with this

[MultiMarwell]

@jetaro63 these 2 norwegian coder guys is found onfacebook and dancing girl(s) too :-)

If you need names, then look at credit into 9fingers and if you found "9 fingers making of", these 4 persons is on preproduction video! :-D

ps: IMHO State of the Art is best demo on Amiga until today!

I would be very interested in how long do graphics programming in general so, what techniques to use video streaming. Maybe autors write some lines here...

[N1Creator]

Amiga forever!

[Novetrix]

Can't remember for the life of me if I've asked already; was this demo running on OCS or AGA hardware?

[powrslave]

@Novetrix OCS

[Arska777999]

@Novetrix it ran just fine on my Amiga 500 (OCS) back in the day.

[MultiMarwell]

@harleykman but this Demo required 0.001 gigabytes of RAM memory, not only 0.0005.

[TheRealXesc]

Makes me a little sad to read the uploader wrote "early 90'ies when it's really the 80'ies. Big difference. Nevertheless, it's still an amazing demo, and I still run mine occassionally, Amiga nostalgia ftw :)

State of the Art, Symbolia, Kefrens Megademos, Rebels, Crionics, man... all of them send me way back :)

[toggi666]

agree. brings back old memmorys.

for you new age kidz this might look kinda stupid, low gfx.

but back in the days this was the top of the art !! ;)

[Pimpazzz77]

AMIGA RULEZ!

[jibbzon]

how could this them do? it's only crapy animation with kewl compression. awful idea, demo sux.... music is poor too... sorry, but refresh (zxspectrum) more cool!

[harleykman]

@jibbzon By saying the Spectrum was better, I can tell you're trolling. The Spectrum was ass. All of the games look inferior to what a Commodore 64, Atari 800, or Amiga could do

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[harleykman]

@jibbzon AND ALSO:

.

I challenge you or anybody else to recreate this demo on an Apple Mac or IBM PC with only 7 megahertz and 1/2 megabyte of RAM. Go on. What? Can't do it can you? THAT'S what makes this demo amazing

.

The Macs and PCs were ten years behind what Amiga could do. They didn't even get preemptive multitasking until 1998 and 2000 respectively. Amiga had it in 1985, which is how it could create music and video like you see here

.

[MultiMarwell]

@harleykman Yes, Amiga designed from 1982 (MC68000 released in 1980), released in 1985, but Amiga have special accelerators for video (Denise) and audio (Paula - with DMA without CPU = fastest), then is not comparable with PC without any special chipsets...

[Paprikarevic]

@MultiMarwell

Well, werent those cards (AdLibs, SBs, EGA, VGA,...) special chipsets for pc?

If not, what were they? Bananas?

Cheers mate. And don't actually mind my comment, I'm definite Amiga freak. :]

[13kras]

how could this demo win??? )))))

[kryckeestrooff]

Less than 70kilobytes including the music! Is it any wonder Gates and Jobs never mention the Amiga, this demo was done in 1992! Think this is cool? I you never owned an Amiga, you really have missed out!

[conoba]

7MHz, 1 MB of RAM and 1.44MB disk capacity.

Absolutely amazing. How did they do it?

[emilen2]

@conoba Actually, this demo only took 550kB out of 900kB floppyspace ;)

[TheRealXesc]

@conoba The Amiga used "720K" Floppies (DSDD), formatting 880K (up to 900K with tweaking) - 1.44MB (DSHD) was used in later PCs (where Amigas formatted 1.76M on them).

[KitxCoffee]

Knowing it probably takes more processing power to play this video in flash than it would to run the demo makes me... sad.

[amdnovello]

@KitxCoffee omg! that's true! flash sucks balls!!!

[nicholasthetaylor]

@KitxCoffee Flash is a great tool for prototyping a demo though, because it isn't your code that will be huge, its all the flash stuff

[MichaelSinz]

@KitxCoffee There is no "probably" in that statement. It most likely is taking well over 100 times the processing power to play that video in flash than it was to actually run the demo on the Amiga.

Original Amiga: under 8MHz CPU with 4 cycles per instruction minimum - current machines: 1GHz or more with 1 cycle per instruction

[MichaelSinz]

@MichaelSinz Plus, modern CPUs have more *cache* on chip than all of the Amiga's memory. My desktop has 12meg of *cache*. My development machine where I wrote/compiled/built ROM images for much of the 2.0 and 3.0 OS releases did not have that much RAM. And the hard drive (large 5.25 inch thing, and very costly) had a total of 1Gig of disk, and that was our source code server! (My desktop has 8Gig of RAM!)

[Olgierddd]

@KitxCoffee

Don't Worry, the times where programmers had to care about the resources gonna back in the days!!! Unless people get rid the barrier of gHz.....And increasing number of cores won't help, because there are many task, that U can't get paralleled.

[stelamo]

wow i had this !!!! 

[cappie2000]

Man.. the times I played this music... I remember playing to the whole neighborhood by putting my big ass speakers and my monitor in the window opening.. omg.. I was really obnoxious.. its a good thing I don't live there anymore :P

[martin1b]

Ah, the good ol days. Brings back a lot of memories! the people who did this stuff never ceased to amaze me. And that was way back then!

[AnandaSh4k3]

what is this i dont even

[franetimalaga]

Eyyy, i remember this demo in my a500! The mine it´s working yet!

[franetimalaga]

Eyyy, i remember this demo in my a500! The mine it´s working yet!

[victorbarovsky]

It looks as tho apple stole their ipod advertising hook from this demo.

[ingoldcity]

ST war der Feind.

Enemy ST

[effedieffedi]

MITICO AMIGA !!!!!!!!!!!!

[tommyballe]

the way it was done was so low-tech it's hilarious.

[Drobek6]

Ahhh this brings back memories :D