The kung fu is there plain as day because kung fu means skilled man or trained man, both were skilled at muay thai boxing apparently, although I was expecting to see San Shou or Shuai Jiao vs Muay Thai.
Where's the Kung Fu? It was all over the head of the Muay thai fighter. As a martial artist who has studied & taught, Kung Fu, wrestling, boxing, muay thai and BJJ it amazes me the number of people who comment without knowledge. I have respect for all martial arts, not just the ones I studied. Get aquainted with San Shou, that is what he was doing.
Where's the Kung Fu? It was all over the head of the Muay thai fighter. As a martial artist who has studied & taught, Kung Fu, wrestling, boxing, muay thai and BJJ it amazes me the number of people who comment without knowledge.
Looks like two muay thai fighters. You're not fooling anyone. Unless the guy in white shorts is the kung fu specialist but we will never know since he didn't do anything.
@MartialValor sure buddy because muay thai strikes with the shin and kung fu with the foot. oh ya and i also like all the throws that muay thai does they are oh so awsome, or the sweeps, or the entirely different kicking styles. Dont criticize sanda unless you know the differences in the arts
if this is a no rule match , Muay thai no doubt will win,the kung fu guy WILL get killed with elbows kness ,shin kicks and more. Basically the cinese will pee out blood after the match
That was all Muay Thai the red short guy were doing. As for the white short dude i don't know what style he is but it seems like he's more in to the Ass-Kicked style and stood there taking it like a punching bag.
@Elbottoo srsly? I though muay thai specialises in knees/elbows/push kick/clinch working and thats what the red guy was doing, i dont see the white guy doing anything so i couldnt tell lol, but in my experience as a muay thai practitioner that the red short guy was doing muay thai.
@UNISboys Search up Sanshou. A lot of the kicks and punches in Sanshou and Muay Thai look very much alike. It is because both arts are based on "basic punch and kick" method. Instead of mimicking tiger or mantis, they just use conditioning to strengthen and harden the legs and fists and use basic punch and kicks.
@UNISboys The red short is doing sanda which can be said muay thai also. Like Elbottoo stated, sanda is based on basic punch and kick medthods which muay thai has always been based on from the beginnning. This makes sanda, that came after, looks so much alike to muay thai.
none of you guys know what the hell you're talking about. muay thai, like many other eastern MAs, has origins in indian martial arts thousands of years ago. it also has origins in chinese martial arts. sanda, on the other hand, was developed in the 1920s in cooperation with the russian military. concepts from chinese kung fu were taken and organized into a fighting system for the KMT and, later on, the PLA. sanda has more ties to sambo than it does to muay thai.
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@TAC412 it is in fact a style of kung fu callaed sanshou in my opinion more effective than normal kung fu because they took kung fu movements a combined them in a kick boxing style
"specialises?" you obviously don't know jack about kung fu. because all your "knees/elbows/pusk kick/clinch working" can be derived from various forms across different styles of chinese MA.
@jakeisawesome91 Yeah and as you can see from all the muay thai fights they mostly use their knees/elbows to strike, and they're called "the art of eight limbs" for a reason and obviously i know other forms of MA uses those as well but they dont use it as often as muay thai.
right. the point is, the guy in the red shorts (bao ligao) is not a MT practitioner. and sanda, contrary to popular mma fanboy belief, is not a simple ripoff of muay thai.
For those of you who say it's not kung fu, etc etc. Please google alittle. Kung Fu isen't all flashy acrobatic moves, those are just movies and coreagraphic comeptition. There are many different styles within the term "Kung Fu". Sanda, or Sanshou, is one of them.
Now what the hell was the Muay fighter doing. His guard was pathetic.
kung fu literally means "skill" and refers to almost anything not just chinese martial art. wushu is the term that means chinese martial art. sanshou is better than muay thai and is different. only the trained martial artists can see the different. sanshou has better and faster punch-kick combination, while muay thai is slower and focus on a more follow-through kicks to make it more powerful. even though muay thai has more powerful kicks, sanshou can use the kicks better and defeat muay thai.
@68bth Bruce Lee is dead. By he has documented street fights, feats, and an amatuer boxing record. He created Jeet kune do. You cant create a martial art if u cant fight,
@68bth - Dude...you are seriously ignorant...Bruce Lee placed more emphasis in his kungfu training than in his acting....he was trained in Wing Chun and he even developed Jeet Kun Do...a street fighting style of Chinese martial art....go google if you don't believe it.
@68bth u watch fake stuff... bruce lee and jackie chan both do more martial arts practice than "acrobat" crap. u should see jackie chan's daily exercise which lasts 4 hours or more. bruce lee trained in wing chun only, then he went to create jeet kune do. CLEARLY u know nothing about jackie chan nad bruce lee
@Uyus35 that was a totally faking fighter muay thai fighters [especially (top) muay thai fighters) are far from being that slow if this were real the muay thai fighter wouldve got atleast 4 full impact round house kicks to the opponents knee
@Hongers1 sanshou didnt have similar thai style knee strike til its combat art modernization of it they literally use a tremendous amount of muay thai because a large majority of combat art sanshou fights train in pure muay thai in that arts development from traditional sanshou kung fu to what you see in that video today is in now way shape in form kung fu any more and hasnt been for a long long time i know thats totally weird
I really can't understand why people feel so strongly about categorizing MAs as " more effective" or "less effective" (or plain useless even). For instance in Japan Jiu JItsu schools competed against Judo schools and they discovered that Judo was hands down the big winner, so they chose Judo for their police training. If peple who train for 2 years in Jud or Aikido or Kung Fu or whatver compete with each other sme art will prevail. If a blacbelt compets with a rooky then...u can't compare
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clearly no one watching this video knows anything of the history of these fights. let alone anything about sanda other then because it throws knees its clearly stealing from thai boxing because before thailand the idea of throwing a damn knee was unthinkable... China and Thailand longest time have been having challenge matches. some times the chinese guy wins some times the thai guy wins. it doesn't mean thai boxing or sanda is better then either, or that they are the same.
I agree with beentheredonethatm8, cuz as far as I know Sanshou doesn't allow knees nor elbows in their matches... I must say I disagree with Battleonic tho, it's not as much the art as the one that practice it that makes the difference
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no Sanshou has always had knees, and recently they have started to allow elbows in these top level matches between sanshou and muay thai. mainly to counter act the comments that if the thai boxer could use elbows they would beat the sanda fighters. but as you see here the sanda/sanshou fighter wins this fight.
Kung fu, taekwondo, etc.. is just visual, if you try to practice these captures in a real situacion, is useless, Muay thai is more real and very useful for any situacion
@zed13281 kung fu literally means "skill" and refers to almost anything not just chinese martial art. wushu is the term that means chinese martial art. sanshou is better than muay thai. only the trained martial artists can see the differents. sanshou has better and faster punch-kick combination, while muay thai is slower and focus on a more follow-through kicks to make it more powerful. even though muay thai has more powerful kicks, sanshou can use the kicks better and defeat muay thai.
@zed13281 this is not muay thai.... this is san shou or as westerners call it sanda. in chinese it means just fight. very little traditional stuff in it. its different from muay thai it may look similiar but sanda techniques are different, sanda is a better martial art. i dont believe in mainly that its the person that makes the difference like how alot of people say it depends on the practioner i believe in the style. kung fu is top and proven all i got to say. if you agree or disagree
@marinejackson muay thai is so far from the best,train in muay thai for 5 years then train in kung fu for six months n see wich art improved your skills the most
haha, i meant Tae Kwon Do. i love Muay Thai. im actually am trying to learn it but there aren't ANY classes i can find. so im planning to just visit Thailand for my 18 or 19th birthday
@MrPhreerun tae kwon do, hell yes. kung fu, HELLLLLL NOOOO. look into kung fu more and you'll find out that it deals a WHOLE bunch with anatomy. it also has a whole bunch of stuff where u can damage internal organs from the outside. and ur saying someone who does muay thai can beat up Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan????
Someone who was a world champion at kung fu started mma and got owned. So he stopped doing kung fu and took up mma. Awnser me this, If kung fu is so great why don't mixed martial artists trian it?
Who is this world champion you speak of? What MMA league did he go into? Who did he get owned by?
You say this like its something huge but cite nothing
And there is a Kung Fu practitioner in MMA, his name is Cung Le.
Please don't pass off MMA as a style of fighting. MMA is exactly what its acronym defines it as. Lyoto Machida practices his Karate in a circular motion which is VERY much like Kung Fu--
but it's whatever. This is only youtube and you will just disregard my statements anyway.
@theneenjah Well I might be. However, I've read about the history of Kung fu and Muay Thai. This's why I opened my mouth to talk sheesh
crane . 50megs . com/index6d.htm
Dont you notice why these two fighters almost do the same style of fighting? This's because one is Muay Thai and another is almost Muay Thai + a little of kung fu (which I dont see any)
I think most of you miss the point that SanShou does not look like your traditional Wu Shu or Wing Chun kung fu. Shan Sanshou is different. They are more rough.
For further proof that the participant in the red shorts is NOT a Kung Fu practitioner (And if he were he is not applying that art in this particular fight), freeze the screen at 0:14, and take a look at their stances. Having stated the details in my previous post, and concluding with the one I've provided in this last one; I rest my case.
No it's not a ripoff of MT. If you were knowledgeable you would realize that San Shou has it's roots in traditional Chinese martial arts. Every single one of the techniques found in San Shou can also be found within various Chinese traditional martial arts styles.
The only thing that the Chinese took from MT was the training methods. San Shou fighters are actual PROFESSIONAL fighters and not traditional martial artists. This is the main reason why it's suceessful in the ring.
One can see general sanshou as a synthesis of traditional Chinese kung fu fighting techniques into a more amorphous system and is commonly taught alongside traditional Chinese styles which Sanshou techniques, theory and training methods are derived from.
Say what you want but the above quote was taken from Wikipedia.
Why do all of you think both are? The one obviously is. Look at his stance and kicks. But the one in red could very well be a San Shou fighter ( yes lots of them LOOK like muay thai fighters), look at his kicks. Lots of them are with feet.
Yeah, that is not Kung Fu, it pretty much looks like both are Muay Thai. I mean the ''Kung Fu'' fighter's usin circular thai kicks most of the time (Which btw in the video are hitting with the lower shin, not feet, FreeKurdistan) and his punches his punches were majoritarilly jab and cross (like the one that cuased the KO), which are not precisely common in Kung Fu. Not to mention the Muay Thai clinch he used to knee his oponent, which is a signature Muay Thai move, I mean, come on...
But you should know that Kung Fu guys don't kick and punch like that, brother. I firmly believe that Sanda is only a martial art that borrow the techniques of Thai kickboxing and plus the side kick from Kung Fu (or TKD).
So it is incorrect to put the name of Kung Fu here, 少林、武當、詠春, none of them come out to fight those kickboxers.
Egh yeah this is sad. The San Shou guy is just pummeling the MT dude with western boxing punches, that and he looks heavier as well. As for muay thai being the deadly for the street, it is. but a few arts would be even better for the street, like JUDO.
aren't a lot of other arts tone down too in order not to cause a bloody mess in the ring. Anyway is just sports to earn money from us so hopefully no one in this world will fight each other just because they saw this video clip
@trapgyal1 lmao get the fuck back into ur mom's pussy u douchebag. talking shit on the internet sure makes u sound tough lmao! get off line and go suck a dick.
im asian and i would kick ur ass soooo hard since i do Jeet Kune Do, BJJ, Judo, Tae Kwon Do, Muay Thai, and Aikido. stop talking shit on youtube when u cant prove anything
well technically MT is a mixture of native arts as well as chuan fa systems that had traveled along with buddhism.
Sanda is a mixture of chuan fa systems, that was combined and mixed with training and rules to better compete with styles like bando, and MT. its still a system of kung fu, but it has been molded to better compete in the ring with MT any others. its really the rules that have shaped both of these styles not so one shaping the others.
I must admit, Muy Thai to me is the best fighting style ever. Tae Kwon Do, Jujusti etc is nice, but still no match to Muy Thai. Same goes with boxing and kick boxing, MT still wins.
Brazillian jujitsu pwns muay thai so does wrestling as seen in MMA! (Under sport rules)
Most real martial arts (non sport rules) are designed with deadly and "dirty" techniques like eye pokes groin and throat shots etc so are more effective than muay thai in real combat!
Muay thai is not even the best stand up striking sport! Burmese boxers use headbutts as well as elbows and knees and there are even fewer rules!
hey man let me tell you something. Muay Thai is just a slim down of Muay Boran which cooperates Headbutt and heaps of deadly moves but being that people were being killed in Tournaments, rules sprang up and some technique were banned and that's how Muay Thai came into being.
Yea I really really wish you could learn Muay Boran! I mean muay thai under sport rules is effective on the street but Muay Boran the martial art version of muay thai must have been totally brutal! But its a lost art isnt it?
Nope! Still alive!....well barely. If you want to learn, go to bangkok and find Colonel Amnat Pooksrisuk. He's a Muay Boran master, released a few DVDs on Muay Boran. I think he goes to US sometimes for seminars. He is also a teacher of Tony Jaa.
Sanshou is a sport-version of Kung Fu. It utilizes the condensed kicks, punches, and sweeps used in real life Kung Fu.
MMAmachinhead92 2 weeks ago
1080p; 720p; 480p; 320p; 280p; Minecraft; this vid
BlackStarMulti 2 months ago
Anybody notice that the Sanshou fighter won the fight? Check the details of this video to see who was in the red trunks! Long live Sanshou!
IBurton86 3 months ago
sanda is base on kongfu
passerNoX 6 months ago
ñ parecia fung vs muai tai parecia dois de muai tai ñ gostei e qeria ver o cara do muai taii ganhando
leakimhckr 6 months ago
The kung fu is there plain as day because kung fu means skilled man or trained man, both were skilled at muay thai boxing apparently, although I was expecting to see San Shou or Shuai Jiao vs Muay Thai.
oeyesea 7 months ago
Where's the Kung Fu? It was all over the head of the Muay thai fighter. As a martial artist who has studied & taught, Kung Fu, wrestling, boxing, muay thai and BJJ it amazes me the number of people who comment without knowledge. I have respect for all martial arts, not just the ones I studied. Get aquainted with San Shou, that is what he was doing.
auntieas 7 months ago
Where's the Kung Fu? It was all over the head of the Muay thai fighter. As a martial artist who has studied & taught, Kung Fu, wrestling, boxing, muay thai and BJJ it amazes me the number of people who comment without knowledge.
auntieas 7 months ago
Looks like two muay thai fighters. You're not fooling anyone. Unless the guy in white shorts is the kung fu specialist but we will never know since he didn't do anything.
Baneoflmmortals 7 months ago
kung fu is in the movies and in kung fu school. If you don't like it, change it, if you can !!!!
moumujai 8 months ago
When it comes to the best stand up fighters, they're styles all start to look similar in the ring.
tctrumbo 8 months ago
@mackusdee nah it really didnt
justjuztin 9 months ago
kungfu... whatever.. doesnt matter which technique he had.. he didnt do anything...
stepxunit 1 year ago
San shou or sanda, is a modern style of kung fu very effective. And by modern i mean a muay thai rip off.
MartialValor 1 year ago 13
@MartialValor sure buddy because muay thai strikes with the shin and kung fu with the foot. oh ya and i also like all the throws that muay thai does they are oh so awsome, or the sweeps, or the entirely different kicking styles. Dont criticize sanda unless you know the differences in the arts
EbonCrusaderOM82 5 months ago
wow that was so 1 sided
KennnyyyShagwell88 1 year ago
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this isn't just a muay thai fight. it's sanshou vs muay thai. sanshou is a type of chinese kickboxing that has origins in kung fu.
063319 1 year ago
wheres the kung fu?-.-
komodoxxx 1 year ago 46
The top?
nottakenlightly2 1 year ago
kung fu is the best muay thai doesn't stand a chance against kung fu
osmarchito 1 year ago
@osmarchito lol you base your arguments in experience or because you are a proud kung fu beginner??? by my experience I can tell you are lying
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TAC412 1 year ago
if this is a no rule match , Muay thai no doubt will win,the kung fu guy WILL get killed with elbows kness ,shin kicks and more. Basically the cinese will pee out blood after the match
MechPhantom 1 year ago 13
@f18blueangel kung fu over muay thai ??? did u just see that kung fu just get knock out . when u think still it is better then u must be retard !
kohisthebest 1 year ago
@kohisthebest The guy who got knocked out was the Muay Thai fighter (white shorts). The Sanshou guy was in the red and yellow shorts.
ProfessorScience 1 year ago
obviously pre-winner and pre-loser
knickvid 1 year ago
muay thai <3
Paddyneu828 1 year ago
That was all Muay Thai the red short guy were doing. As for the white short dude i don't know what style he is but it seems like he's more in to the Ass-Kicked style and stood there taking it like a punching bag.
leones9692 1 year ago
@leones9692 That wasnt Muay Thai. That was Sanda/ Sanshou in red shorts. The white short is Muay Thai.
Elbottoo 1 year ago
@Elbottoo srsly? I though muay thai specialises in knees/elbows/push kick/clinch working and thats what the red guy was doing, i dont see the white guy doing anything so i couldnt tell lol, but in my experience as a muay thai practitioner that the red short guy was doing muay thai.
UNISboys 1 year ago
@UNISboys Search up Sanshou. A lot of the kicks and punches in Sanshou and Muay Thai look very much alike. It is because both arts are based on "basic punch and kick" method. Instead of mimicking tiger or mantis, they just use conditioning to strengthen and harden the legs and fists and use basic punch and kicks.
Elbottoo 1 year ago
@UNISboys The red short is doing sanda which can be said muay thai also. Like Elbottoo stated, sanda is based on basic punch and kick medthods which muay thai has always been based on from the beginnning. This makes sanda, that came after, looks so much alike to muay thai.
TAC412 1 year ago 3
@TAC412
none of you guys know what the hell you're talking about. muay thai, like many other eastern MAs, has origins in indian martial arts thousands of years ago. it also has origins in chinese martial arts. sanda, on the other hand, was developed in the 1920s in cooperation with the russian military. concepts from chinese kung fu were taken and organized into a fighting system for the KMT and, later on, the PLA. sanda has more ties to sambo than it does to muay thai.
jakeisawesome91 1 year ago
@jakeisawesome91 Believe me your statement was right only that muay thai was influenced by indian MAs.
TAC412 1 year ago 15
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@TAC412 it is in fact a style of kung fu callaed sanshou in my opinion more effective than normal kung fu because they took kung fu movements a combined them in a kick boxing style
juljalala 1 year ago
@UNISboys
"specialises?" you obviously don't know jack about kung fu. because all your "knees/elbows/pusk kick/clinch working" can be derived from various forms across different styles of chinese MA.
jakeisawesome91 1 year ago
@jakeisawesome91 Yeah and as you can see from all the muay thai fights they mostly use their knees/elbows to strike, and they're called "the art of eight limbs" for a reason and obviously i know other forms of MA uses those as well but they dont use it as often as muay thai.
UNISboys 1 year ago
@UNISboys
right. the point is, the guy in the red shorts (bao ligao) is not a MT practitioner. and sanda, contrary to popular mma fanboy belief, is not a simple ripoff of muay thai.
jakeisawesome91 1 year ago 2
Kung Fu over Muay Thai man
F18BlueAngel 1 year ago
@cocminco1230
bruce lee did not only wing chun.
he practiced it by a very famous man , but he also trained gung fu and tai chi .
well in the end he didnt belive in the styles , he create his own style , with very good techiques , simple and effective. jeet kune do :D
wwlo3gm 1 year ago
For those of you who say it's not kung fu, etc etc. Please google alittle. Kung Fu isen't all flashy acrobatic moves, those are just movies and coreagraphic comeptition. There are many different styles within the term "Kung Fu". Sanda, or Sanshou, is one of them.
Now what the hell was the Muay fighter doing. His guard was pathetic.
emasep 1 year ago
kung fu is sick but where is it in this vidoe?
TAC412 1 year ago
there was no kung fu involved in any of this, just regular boxing
Jphu8414 1 year ago
@Jphu8414 regular thai boxing (muay thai) there's a big difference between muay thai and western boxing
cosminso1230 1 year ago
kun fu?
vrata78 1 year ago
nice but tht wasnt kung fu
andresgonzalez7 1 year ago
@andresgonzalez7 you don't know what you all talking about. you watch too many kung fu movies
mikelivingston1978 1 year ago
@andresgonzalez7 you don't know what kung fu. you watch too many movies..
mikelivingston1978 1 year ago
kung fu literally means "skill" and refers to almost anything not just chinese martial art. wushu is the term that means chinese martial art. sanshou is better than muay thai and is different. only the trained martial artists can see the different. sanshou has better and faster punch-kick combination, while muay thai is slower and focus on a more follow-through kicks to make it more powerful. even though muay thai has more powerful kicks, sanshou can use the kicks better and defeat muay thai.
mikelivingston1978 1 year ago
that referee was the worst ever
mo31293 1 year ago 3
there both are muay Thai fighters..
Djkhalido 1 year ago
the one guy needs to learn to defend himself better , he's doing nothing
a4t7w 1 year ago
if onli BRUCE LEE was still here....
My hero...
Minesr357pete 1 year ago 2
@Minesr357pete bruce lee is not a fighter he is an acrobat same as jackie chan
68bth 1 year ago 2
@68bth Bruce Lee is dead. By he has documented street fights, feats, and an amatuer boxing record. He created Jeet kune do. You cant create a martial art if u cant fight,
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@68bth - Dude...you are seriously ignorant...Bruce Lee placed more emphasis in his kungfu training than in his acting....he was trained in Wing Chun and he even developed Jeet Kun Do...a street fighting style of Chinese martial art....go google if you don't believe it.
armyboy24 1 year ago
@68bth u watch fake stuff... bruce lee and jackie chan both do more martial arts practice than "acrobat" crap. u should see jackie chan's daily exercise which lasts 4 hours or more. bruce lee trained in wing chun only, then he went to create jeet kune do. CLEARLY u know nothing about jackie chan nad bruce lee
cosminso1230 1 year ago
interesting muay thai should do wushu and become Muay Thai (wuwhu)
TAC412 1 year ago 6
@TAC412 don't you mean muay shu? LOL
Hongers1 1 year ago
@Hongers1 Yeah, Muay Shu is a nice name lol
TAC412 1 year ago
the Chinese guy did win but that'ss just using some modern kick boxing in China..
dimitrilevampire 1 year ago
@dimitrilevampire u know nothing about sanshou do u? search it up
cosminso1230 1 year ago
@cosminso1230 I know and it's not Kung fu....I know my culture ok.
dimitrilevampire 1 year ago
@dimitrilevampire do you do sanshou?
cosminso1230 1 year ago
esse cara é do kung fu???pelamordeDeus!!!!!!ele acaba com a reputaçao do kung fu desse jeitooo!!!!
jfabio2099 1 year ago
I think sanshou IS a kung fu path/style. PS I dont think twitching in the floor is a good sign after be knocked the fuck out.
omarsucks 1 year ago
cmon white short isnt a faking fighter..you can see that instantly..
Uyus35 1 year ago
@Uyus35 that was a totally faking fighter muay thai fighters [especially (top) muay thai fighters) are far from being that slow if this were real the muay thai fighter wouldve got atleast 4 full impact round house kicks to the opponents knee
tinygangster66 1 year ago 5
wtf......that was all muay thai.
LtActionCam 1 year ago 16
@LtActionCam Myau thai is suck.. even most Chinese could Compare him..
d1gps15 1 year ago
@LtActionCam nah that was actually sanshou, because the knee strikes in sanshou is practically the same as the muay thai knee strikes
Hongers1 1 year ago
@Hongers1 sanshou didnt have similar thai style knee strike til its combat art modernization of it they literally use a tremendous amount of muay thai because a large majority of combat art sanshou fights train in pure muay thai in that arts development from traditional sanshou kung fu to what you see in that video today is in now way shape in form kung fu any more and hasnt been for a long long time i know thats totally weird
supernova92024 1 year ago
@supernova92024 if its from China its kung fu period.
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
haha this fight doesnt make sense
modernized sanshou is almost complete combat sport
literally its kickboxing with knees and throws
not much kung fu left in it
lts literally muay thai with less elbow and more throwing technique
it just kickboxing with different rules
these arts are too similar for all this contrasting arguments
supernova92024 2 years ago 5
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i don't understand your point, what do you mean Kung Fu left in it??
Both knees and throws are the mean weapon in any types of Chinese Martial Art!
codeagent47 1 year ago
the important thing is to win a NO RULES fight
rufo3 2 years ago 2
rufo3 theres many ways to win my friend
VoGiaQuyen 1 year ago
I really can't understand why people feel so strongly about categorizing MAs as " more effective" or "less effective" (or plain useless even). For instance in Japan Jiu JItsu schools competed against Judo schools and they discovered that Judo was hands down the big winner, so they chose Judo for their police training. If peple who train for 2 years in Jud or Aikido or Kung Fu or whatver compete with each other sme art will prevail. If a blacbelt compets with a rooky then...u can't compare
ASTERIXISM 2 years ago
Whats your point?
Sorry, i didn't understand xD
You mean all martial arts are in the same way effective? Its just down to the fighter?
br3akd4ncing 1 year ago
My friend, there are no "superior" style of martial arts in this world. Only superior martial artist. Bruce Lee have said that before.
A competition with rules and restrictions further more do not justified the full power of a partucular style of martial arts too.
junlong0107 2 years ago
my friend in the end people will throw away the art in martial arts. there is no ma or even mma in the end it will just be a true martialist.
VoGiaQuyen 1 year ago
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clearly no one watching this video knows anything of the history of these fights. let alone anything about sanda other then because it throws knees its clearly stealing from thai boxing because before thailand the idea of throwing a damn knee was unthinkable... China and Thailand longest time have been having challenge matches. some times the chinese guy wins some times the thai guy wins. it doesn't mean thai boxing or sanda is better then either, or that they are the same.
wayoftheforesthand 2 years ago
muay thai - always has had throws and they should start to use throws again
sanda - always has had knee strikes and they should start to use knee strikes again
after all, muay thai = sanda?
TAC412 2 years ago
That didn represent styles at all, Looked like a good fighter v a bad fighter is all
jd27x 2 years ago
I agree with beentheredonethatm8, cuz as far as I know Sanshou doesn't allow knees nor elbows in their matches... I must say I disagree with Battleonic tho, it's not as much the art as the one that practice it that makes the difference
Miztiva 2 years ago
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no Sanshou has always had knees, and recently they have started to allow elbows in these top level matches between sanshou and muay thai. mainly to counter act the comments that if the thai boxer could use elbows they would beat the sanda fighters. but as you see here the sanda/sanshou fighter wins this fight.
wayoftheforesthand 2 years ago
I didn't know this.. I practice sanshou and I will start competing this year, we haven't added neither knees nor elbows in our trainings tho...
Miztiva 2 years ago
Muay Thai wins again lols
SinclairCeltics1990 2 years ago 18
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WTF? The info says the white guy, who got knocked out, was the muay thai guy. How did you get it THAT WRONG?
dafuki 2 years ago
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??? no the guy in red was the Chinese sanshou fighter not the thai boxer.
wayoftheforesthand 2 years ago
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Fuck yes ! Kung fu dude won !
Refragatio 2 years ago
Im not sure if the one that got beat is muy thai trained,I didnt saw any movements
MyUnfamous 2 years ago
Kung fu, taekwondo, etc.. is just visual, if you try to practice these captures in a real situacion, is useless, Muay thai is more real and very useful for any situacion
battleonic 2 years ago
this guy did not get knockout, he's just lazy fighter that drained out his energy.
h3htv 2 years ago
wat is the name of this event? and does it stll happen today?
theneenjah 2 years ago
this is just thai boxing. no kung fu practicioners here
zed13281 2 years ago 143
@zed13281 It is kung fu but the style is sanshou.
I prefer to call it chinese boxing.
SiaCent 1 year ago
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mikelivingston1978 1 year ago
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mikelivingston1978 1 year ago
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@zed13281 kung fu literally means "skill" and refers to almost anything not just chinese martial art. wushu is the term that means chinese martial art. sanshou is better than muay thai. only the trained martial artists can see the differents. sanshou has better and faster punch-kick combination, while muay thai is slower and focus on a more follow-through kicks to make it more powerful. even though muay thai has more powerful kicks, sanshou can use the kicks better and defeat muay thai.
mikelivingston1978 1 year ago
@zed13281 this is not muay thai.... this is san shou or as westerners call it sanda. in chinese it means just fight. very little traditional stuff in it. its different from muay thai it may look similiar but sanda techniques are different, sanda is a better martial art. i dont believe in mainly that its the person that makes the difference like how alot of people say it depends on the practioner i believe in the style. kung fu is top and proven all i got to say. if you agree or disagree
JustNotTrying 1 year ago
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@zed13281 the guy in the red shorts is a sanshou fghter dumbass get your facts straight
WarrenKeingGaw 1 year ago
@WarrenKeingGaw sanshou is just thai boxing with take downs. dumbass i'd like to see you do what i've been doing.
zed13281 1 year ago 30
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@zed13281 no its not fucktard i can care less about what you are doing...
WarrenKeingGaw 1 year ago
@zed13281 you don't have to look like a monkey or crane to do kung fu, SO STUPID
ForwardIntent 8 months ago
@ForwardIntent You sound like a mokey. Is that you black jew?
zed13281 8 months ago
what are you talking about shaolin won the match
huyhahop 2 years ago
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yeah shaolin win muay thai... i think this guy are Thai or hes learning muay thai thats why he say that... shaolin = Best :D
asiaHANDSOME 2 years ago
Muay Thai = The Best!!
marinejackson 2 years ago 131
@marinejackson Go Sanshou!!
theneenjah 1 year ago
@marinejackson muay thai is so far from the best,train in muay thai for 5 years then train in kung fu for six months n see wich art improved your skills the most
itziBLACKOUTv1 1 year ago
How can you take up "Cung Le" as a good Kung fu fighter in MMA when He does, TKD, Muay Thai, Viet Vo dao, Wrestling, BJJ, and Sanda?
In fact, Sanda is not even original Kung fu but it's a chinese boxing and it's a combination of Muay Thai + Kung fu.
SinclairCeltics1990 2 years ago 16
Kung fu + Muay Thai VS Muay Thai :)
crane . 50megs . com/index6d.htm
SinclairCeltics1990 2 years ago 2
Honestly I think the Kung Fu fighter got lucky there.
Then again, the Red guy busted some muay thai / boxing like moves.
ScorchinBeats 2 years ago
that was not kung fu
MrLesliehero 2 years ago
ya dude..look up fight quest kung fu..thats REAL kung fu, not that old man shit.
JOE69541 2 years ago
remeber though its not really kungfu its sanda which is more like muay thai than orthodox kung fu.
himurakenshinX1 2 years ago
in chinese TV all other martial arts can't defeat kungfu Haha.
Picxxt 2 years ago
thats cause in reality, kung fu is undefeatable...i mean, if its to the death :P can someone has to be very good at kung fu first
theneenjah 2 years ago 2
@theneenjah BS.
MrPhreerun 2 years ago
haha, i meant Tae Kwon Do. i love Muay Thai. im actually am trying to learn it but there aren't ANY classes i can find. so im planning to just visit Thailand for my 18 or 19th birthday
theneenjah 2 years ago
Muay thai is more deadly than kung fu or tae kwon do.
MrPhreerun 2 years ago 9
@MrPhreerun tae kwon do, hell yes. kung fu, HELLLLLL NOOOO. look into kung fu more and you'll find out that it deals a WHOLE bunch with anatomy. it also has a whole bunch of stuff where u can damage internal organs from the outside. and ur saying someone who does muay thai can beat up Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan????
theneenjah 2 years ago
Someone who was a world champion at kung fu started mma and got owned. So he stopped doing kung fu and took up mma. Awnser me this, If kung fu is so great why don't mixed martial artists trian it?
MrPhreerun 2 years ago 6
Who is this world champion you speak of? What MMA league did he go into? Who did he get owned by?
You say this like its something huge but cite nothing
And there is a Kung Fu practitioner in MMA, his name is Cung Le.
Please don't pass off MMA as a style of fighting. MMA is exactly what its acronym defines it as. Lyoto Machida practices his Karate in a circular motion which is VERY much like Kung Fu--
but it's whatever. This is only youtube and you will just disregard my statements anyway.
elcuco88 2 years ago
One out of many.
MrPhreerun 2 years ago
@theneenjah Bruce lee was a MMA! He beat Muay Thai fighter by "submission" not Kung fu
Orginal Kung fu never stands a chance against Muay Thai. This's why Sanda was created, a combination of Muay Thai and Original Kung fu!
SinclairCeltics1990 2 years ago 5
@SinclairCeltics1990 you don't think Baguazhang can or Shaolin kung fu can defeat Muay Thai? you must be insane!!!!
theneenjah 2 years ago
@theneenjah Well I might be. However, I've read about the history of Kung fu and Muay Thai. This's why I opened my mouth to talk sheesh
crane . 50megs . com/index6d.htm
Dont you notice why these two fighters almost do the same style of fighting? This's because one is Muay Thai and another is almost Muay Thai + a little of kung fu (which I dont see any)
SinclairCeltics1990 2 years ago 7
@SinclairCeltics1990 i've looked a LOT into Kung Fu and i do it too. i do both Muay Thai and Kung Fu.
theneenjah 2 years ago
Okay, good for you. I do Muay Thai and Jujitsu ^.^
SinclairCeltics1990 2 years ago 2
haha, i actually do Wing Chun Kung Fu, Muay Thai, BJJ, Tae Kwon Do, Aikido, Judo, a bit of ninjutsu. my majors are Wing Chun, BJJ, and Muay Thai
theneenjah 2 years ago
I dont have that much free time to do all those martial arts sheesh -*- Anyways, I'm sure Muay Thai is one of your majors :D
SinclairCeltics1990 2 years ago
which 1 is kung fu?
cuz the guy with the red busted some
myua thai knees and kicks
and the guy that got knocked out did
hes myua thai stance
julian671 2 years ago
red guy is kungfu + Maui thai. trained in both fields.
beentheredonethatm8 2 years ago 20
Do you have a name to attach to those facts?
dafuki 2 years ago
no thats just regular sanshou.
wayoftheforesthand 2 years ago
I think most of you miss the point that SanShou does not look like your traditional Wu Shu or Wing Chun kung fu. Shan Sanshou is different. They are more rough.
AFreeKurdistan 2 years ago
For further proof that the participant in the red shorts is NOT a Kung Fu practitioner (And if he were he is not applying that art in this particular fight), freeze the screen at 0:14, and take a look at their stances. Having stated the details in my previous post, and concluding with the one I've provided in this last one; I rest my case.
freedomismygod 2 years ago
That is a Sanda stance so yes it is kung fu.
BruceLeeCobain92 2 years ago
no dude sanshao is kung fu version of kickboxing..look up fight quest kung fu..it looks like muay thai
JOE69541 2 years ago
@Caine260
No it's not a ripoff of MT. If you were knowledgeable you would realize that San Shou has it's roots in traditional Chinese martial arts. Every single one of the techniques found in San Shou can also be found within various Chinese traditional martial arts styles.
The only thing that the Chinese took from MT was the training methods. San Shou fighters are actual PROFESSIONAL fighters and not traditional martial artists. This is the main reason why it's suceessful in the ring.
rottenzombie27 2 years ago
One can see general sanshou as a synthesis of traditional Chinese kung fu fighting techniques into a more amorphous system and is commonly taught alongside traditional Chinese styles which Sanshou techniques, theory and training methods are derived from.
Say what you want but the above quote was taken from Wikipedia.
rottenzombie27 2 years ago
Why do all of you think both are? The one obviously is. Look at his stance and kicks. But the one in red could very well be a San Shou fighter ( yes lots of them LOOK like muay thai fighters), look at his kicks. Lots of them are with feet.
AFreeKurdistan 2 years ago
Yeah, that is not Kung Fu, it pretty much looks like both are Muay Thai. I mean the ''Kung Fu'' fighter's usin circular thai kicks most of the time (Which btw in the video are hitting with the lower shin, not feet, FreeKurdistan) and his punches his punches were majoritarilly jab and cross (like the one that cuased the KO), which are not precisely common in Kung Fu. Not to mention the Muay Thai clinch he used to knee his oponent, which is a signature Muay Thai move, I mean, come on...
freedomismygod 2 years ago
Both are muay thai fighters .. fucking retarded video poster
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k1fightcenter 2 years ago
These two fighters are MUAY THAI! LOLS
Everyone who does Muay Thai can tell :)
SinclairCeltics1990 2 years ago 3
The red man is Kung Fu. Chinese Wu Shu.
124325142 2 years ago
But you should know that Kung Fu guys don't kick and punch like that, brother. I firmly believe that Sanda is only a martial art that borrow the techniques of Thai kickboxing and plus the side kick from Kung Fu (or TKD).
So it is incorrect to put the name of Kung Fu here, 少林、武當、詠春, none of them come out to fight those kickboxers.
chichuanlin1979 2 years ago
@chichuanlin1979 you're right :)
check this out, crane . 50megs . com/index6d.htm
SinclairCeltics1990 2 years ago
Egh yeah this is sad. The San Shou guy is just pummeling the MT dude with western boxing punches, that and he looks heavier as well. As for muay thai being the deadly for the street, it is. but a few arts would be even better for the street, like JUDO.
necrodude77 2 years ago
That isn't even real muay thai lol
ancient muay thai, he'd be dead by now
marty409 2 years ago
@marty409
aren't a lot of other arts tone down too in order not to cause a bloody mess in the ring. Anyway is just sports to earn money from us so hopefully no one in this world will fight each other just because they saw this video clip
reton73 2 years ago
hmmm can someone expert in muay thai tell me if it can be usefull as self defence? Thank you
edblade978 2 years ago
chinese scared of thai's elbows
petecool 2 years ago 4
zecheesemaster trust me u wouldnt stand a punch frm my fist..fkin chink
trapgyal1 2 years ago
and why is that u little cunt face ?
rollinkong 2 years ago
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ukshaolintemple 2 years ago
remember this, you are nothing..... nothing
ukshaolintemple 2 years ago
@trapgyal1 lmao get the fuck back into ur mom's pussy u douchebag. talking shit on the internet sure makes u sound tough lmao! get off line and go suck a dick.
dragonblood911 2 years ago
im asian and i would kick ur ass soooo hard since i do Jeet Kune Do, BJJ, Judo, Tae Kwon Do, Muay Thai, and Aikido. stop talking shit on youtube when u cant prove anything
theneenjah 2 years ago
well technically MT is a mixture of native arts as well as chuan fa systems that had traveled along with buddhism.
Sanda is a mixture of chuan fa systems, that was combined and mixed with training and rules to better compete with styles like bando, and MT. its still a system of kung fu, but it has been molded to better compete in the ring with MT any others. its really the rules that have shaped both of these styles not so one shaping the others.
wayoftheforesthand 2 years ago
I must admit, Muy Thai to me is the best fighting style ever. Tae Kwon Do, Jujusti etc is nice, but still no match to Muy Thai. Same goes with boxing and kick boxing, MT still wins.
UltraIce 2 years ago 3
Brazillian jujitsu pwns muay thai so does wrestling as seen in MMA! (Under sport rules)
Most real martial arts (non sport rules) are designed with deadly and "dirty" techniques like eye pokes groin and throat shots etc so are more effective than muay thai in real combat!
Muay thai is not even the best stand up striking sport! Burmese boxers use headbutts as well as elbows and knees and there are even fewer rules!
3876samf 2 years ago
@3876samf if you train muay thai you need to train something like aikdo or jiu jitsu
xxXGSGalatasarayXxx 2 years ago
hey man let me tell you something. Muay Thai is just a slim down of Muay Boran which cooperates Headbutt and heaps of deadly moves but being that people were being killed in Tournaments, rules sprang up and some technique were banned and that's how Muay Thai came into being.
BTW, modern muay thai do use elbows and knees =P
mentalboy9 2 years ago 4
Yea I really really wish you could learn Muay Boran! I mean muay thai under sport rules is effective on the street but Muay Boran the martial art version of muay thai must have been totally brutal! But its a lost art isnt it?
3876samf 2 years ago
Nope! Still alive!....well barely. If you want to learn, go to bangkok and find Colonel Amnat Pooksrisuk. He's a Muay Boran master, released a few DVDs on Muay Boran. I think he goes to US sometimes for seminars. He is also a teacher of Tony Jaa.
mentalboy9 2 years ago 3