@chitrakuut Logic must prevail. Here you are calling for a problem by blaming the religion for it. Logically, you need to refer to the book of Islam (Quran) and quote form there instead of turning to a religion which is under attack. The proof is your statement and one must reply to your misinformed statement. My apologies if it hearts your feelings but please do refer to the book and seek the truth for yourself and the truth shall free you.
I am so sick of soldiers......all you soldiers are sell outs who seem to enjoy oppressing others . Know this though. your not tough. your like a dog in a pack....thats why you run with soldiers ..to feel important.....in actuality it makes you very small within ...to kill , to beat, to belittle, to invade....ITS WRONG the money you earn is blood money....despite how your gov deceives you that it is honor to serve the them...its a shame
Suggestion go to Communist China the brutal state who is killing Buddhist and Muslim, Christians and liberate Tibet and Muslim areas from the tyrant state China. India is a great democracy and secular, and a superpower. we are open thus you can move all over India. In Chinas you could have never made this documentary.
The Pakistani terrorist disguise as Indian army and has been killing Kashmiris so as to blame them. The Pakistani terrorist hack the limbs and other parts of the body of the Kashmiri to show that Indian army are brutal, so that they can keep the uprising.
seperate from India but dont export your bastards to our country like those motherfucking dark ugly illegeal uneducated unhygenic bangladeshi terrorists. why dont these fucking liberal english morons go to the bengal border and make a film on illegal bangladeshi migrants entering the country illegally. Bitches.
Kashmiris are the victim of what they did to Kashmiri Pandits decades ago...Kashmiri population has always supported fanatic religious fundamentalism and terrorism which is now biting them only.... Stop supporting terrorism and live in peace.... and also don't ever dream of freedom because Kashmir was always part of India and it will be....with or without Kashmiris......
@zulfitareen Its true.. although religion has been sold by freemasons (illuminati) islam is the only religion not worshipping a form of sun. Quran is the only book not altered, and is the only religion without an idol or statue to pray.
@zulfitareen Its true.. although religion has been sold by freemasons (illuminati) islam is the only religion not worshipping a form of sun. Quran is the only book not altered, and is the only religion without an idol or statue to pray.
and the only religion freemasons are trying to destroy !
Muhammad claimed in sura 13:0221:3331:2936:40 and 39:05 that sun and moon travel across sky in fixed orbits at fixed speed. But he didn’t know that Sun never travels across sky. It is the spinning of earth that makes the sun appear to be travelling from east to west.
Of course he had no clue of the solar system. If he did he could have mentioned that earth spins on its axis or eath revolves around sun.
Muhammad claimed in sura 23:14 that sperm changes into congeal blood, then bones come out and then meat is wrapped around the bones.
Though he copied it from galen, the greek physician; both were utterly wrong.
The science says that sperm does not change into congeal blood. In fact the blood comes into play at a much later stage in the development of embryo. Science has proven the Koranic explanation of embryo development an utter nonsense
@zulfitareen is a fake with sum dum comments that are not true at all. He iz trying to be clever but does not know anything about the quran, i dont think his ever read it, his a spastik!
"moment we get a after a person they say oh he was an innocent person. we work only on hard intelligence, we do not go around torturing any common person"
In book “arda viraf namag” (226-240 AD), the zoroastrian priest arda viraf described his journey into sky to meet his diety.
Accompanied by arch angel Bahman, he journyed through different levels of heavens and hells before finally reaching his deity Ahura Mazda sitting on the throne in 7the heaven
In 7th century AD., Muhammad, accompanied by acrh angel gabriel, claimed to have made the similar journey into sky on a white horse to meet his deity.
Thats why all the muslims are being made fun of. We will break all the pillars of islam. look at Iraq. Look at Afganistan and Pakistan how muslims are killing each other.
Don`t tell me the stories that you read in your local newspaper. If everyone else hates you people there is a reason. When you people destroyed Bamiyan Buddh Statue in Afganistan everyone witnessed what kind of mentality you have.
@orceller local news paper? are u insane ? I am from Syria Damascus , we have 1 million Iraqis refugees here . this is TRUTH.
actually an Iraqi rented my home.
you are the one whos reading media without direct contact with anything.
as for a statue u are so fond of , well we dont allow statues in our country . it is a false GOD and we destroy false GODS that pple worship, not your business.
we are proud of it. GOD ordered us to remove every false taken gods.
@orceller@orceller local news paper? are u insane ? I am from Syria Damascus , we have 1 million Iraqis refugees here . this is TRUTH.
actually an Iraqi rented my home.
you are the one whos reading media without direct contact with anything.
as for a statue u are so fond of , well we dont allow statues in our country . it is a false GOD and we destroy false GODS that pple worship, not your business.
we are proud of it. GOD ordered us to remove every false taken gods.
Your God ordered it that why you are doing it. Similarly our GOD ordered to kill muslims and so we are killing you. Fair deal?. Lets see which God wins.
We know who our gods are. Thats why we make their statues. Buddha was born at my place. People witnessed his powers. Those who dont see his powers are blind.
You dont know who your god is. Thats why you can`t make their statues. After all you also build moques which are man-made. But you dont know what to keep inside them.
"there is NOTHING like GOD ." and in your previous post you said you pray to god. This means you yourself is not sure whether god is there or not, Your whole religion is just a hoax and parody.
Also, you need to improve your GK. There are better books to read than Quran. I am not blind you are blind, deaf and dumb.
Quran should be thrown in toilet and then flushed......thats where it came from and thats where it should go.
@orceller ok since u insulted the holy Quran like this. nothing between us but death and the battlefield.
and I am sure of GOD the unseen the all Mighty. whio sent messengers with Miracles from him that make ur budha look like idiot. but still they never said it was their work but the work of GOD.
as the fruits of each teaching. I can see ur religion fruits. what u said about the holy Quran without even reading it. we will fight and destroy your budha statues . and lets see his pathetic powers!
Arent you seeing your gods pathetic powers when 1 million Iraq`s fled and entered your syria. Where is your God now?, Ask him to save you . You know that he doesn`t exists ANSYWHEHER except in minds of fools like you.
Mujhaideen were defetated by Indian forces in 1999 war. How many times you will face defeat by our hands. Aren`t your women ashamed at impotent men like you.
beauty is in the eyes of beholders. An idiot like you doesn`t know what beauty lies in Buddha or Jain or Chirst or Krishna. Your prophet is so ugly that he doesn`t want his face to be drawn. He knew people will know that he was a leper and beggar.
When our god peed on earth it all fell on Pakistan , that why muslims were drownong there. and yes....your god couldnt save them.
Thats why you are dying to see the beauty of your god. Now its Iraq, tomorrow we will come to Syria and send you to hell. thats where you fools are going.
He was not a muslim who was born from dirty semen. You muslims have sex with your own sister. ha ha ha. Must be written in quran. Tomorrow you will have sex with your mother then say it is written by quran part 2.
@orceller heh the reason is that u are sheeps and follow cinema and movies and media and never bothered to see if true or not. and is at war time .. propaganda time !
go for it, they are only brick and mud, but the people have the real mosque in their hearts, and that you will never burn, that is a never ending struggle for you that will NEVER win.
Kashmiri Men are bastards...biggest bastards on the face of the planet...the kashmiris living outside kashmir are mother fucking bastards...most of these guys are high on drugs...and they screw women like they are BORN from a whores cunt...Hell with Kashmiris...Hell with Kashmir...
Kashmiri Men are bastards...biggest bastards on the face of the planet...the kashmiris living outside kashmir are mother fucking bastards...most of these guys are high on drugs...and they screw women like they are BORN from a whores cunt...Hell with Kashmiris...Hell with Kashmir...
Kashmiri Men are bastards...biggest bastards on the face of the planet...the kashmiris living outside kashmir are mother fucking bastards...most of these guys are high on drugs...and they screw women like they are BORN from a whores cunt...Hell with Kashmiris...Hell with Kashmir...
Islamic intolerance is destroying once peaceful Kashmiri folks.
I was born in Kashmir and left the Valley on Jan 20th 1990. On the preceding night, the loud speakers from Mosques blared night long hate propaganda against Minority Hindus, Christians. The clerics making announcements wanted minority men to leave Kashmir, leaving behind their women.
Kashmir will be next Afghanistan, devolve into a lawless tribal region where women will have their noses cut as per Holy Sharia!
@AVictimofTerror: whatever J&K will become is NOT ur headache.. that decision rests with Kashmiris... how they want to rule & be ruled in their land.. One thing they do want for sure is END OF INDIAN OCCUPATION of their lands!
Be realistic India is a bigger power & it considers Kashmir as a part of its main territory. India never accepts the independence of kashmir as it will severly hurts its soveregnity.
So, to think that anyone can make kashmir independent by force is irrelevent .
@vimal190488: No state's power is bigger than the power of the people.. India will be brought down to its knees by the power and will of the Kashmiris.. India cannot occupy a nation and its lands forever
@mystz1 for your information i would like to tell you that the state of jammu & kashmir is not limited to srinagar,baramula ,anantnaag & shopian where these protests takes place. It contains mainly three provinces Jammu,Kashmir valley & Laddakh.The majority population in jammu region is hindu & in Laddakh majority population is Buddhist the muslims of this regions feels themselves Indian as much as i do.The voting %age of this region is much higherthan any state of India.
@vimal190488: Yes I am aware of what makes up J&K.. This is an easy escape route taken by most Indians in an argument to separately talk about Jammu, Ladakh & Kashmir Valley.. The princely state of J&K which India occupied militarily consisted ALL three regions.. Muslims make up the overall majority no matter if other religious denominations are in majority in certain areas. At the end of the day, the argument remains, a 700,000 armed occupation force cannot subjugate another nation..
@mystz1 Secondly,the forces are there to tackle insurgents. The 70% of security forces is located near LOC which is a conflict zone not an international border,the no of army personnel incresed in large numbers after 1999 Kargil war to tackle any kind of repeated incident.So, the point subjugate is also meaningless as it is our territory not ' another nation'.
@vimal190488: According to Chidambram, there are only 100 active militants left in J&K.. so you're telling me you need 700,000 Indian troops in J&K for 100 militants? Maybe these lies work in India.. not outside your country.. Subjugating another nation through a military occupation is what Indian actions in J&K are.. whether you like it or not.. Your patriotism cant change facts on the ground.
@mystz1 Thirdly friend, I don't know from which religion you belongs to but i would like to tell you a fact that Kashmir is not a Islamic state but a Islamic majority state.Whenever an innocent died the whole Islamic world condemns the incident because they connect kashmir to islam but no one talks to thousands innocent kashmiri pandits killed brutally by millitants .The 400000 kashmiri pandits are forced to convert to Islam otherwise to leave kashmir,aren't they Kashmiri?
@vimal190488: *yawn* what Kashmiri pundits went through was revenge for what Indian Army started doing to innocent Muslim youths in Kashmir.. You make it sound like Kashmiri pundits are so innocent.. perhaps many were.. But since Indian Army's occupation of Kashmir started.. the fact they were Hindus, Indian Army started using them as informants.. Whether Kashmir is Islamic or Islamic majority, according to rules of partition of subcontinent, India has NO legal position to keep occupying Kashmir
@mystz1 lol...........the way u r justifying the killing of kashmiri pandits clearly shows
your extremist mindset. Now how can you say that these muslim youth which you are talking are innocent ? Aren't they informants of millitants? I will not justfy the killing of innocent kashmiri boys because I am not extremist.You are suffering from typical pakistani Anti-India and Anti-Hindu ideology.Friend,This Ideology will not take
you anywhere. What you get from last 63 years from this ideology?
@vimal190488: The same that you got from anti-Muslim ideology.. lets not forget what Golwalkar said.. the seeds that he had sown are now bearing fruit in Indian society's Hindu-fascist ideology.. in name & in paper India remains secular.. but everyone knows what goes on in the alleys away from the world's eyes as the gullible Western public is distracted by the facade of 'India shining'..
@mystz1 Friend, all fingers of a hand are not similar. This is your wrong perception
towards Indians. Yes, there are some people in India And Pakistan who like to go about the same old beaten path but it doesn't mean that every Indian is an Enemy of Pakistan.
70% Hindus (I am giving confined facts,but in reality it is more than 80% ) in India are are with Indian muslims. It was muslims who save me & my family from millitants in 1989 . Now ,How can I say that all muslims are Evil ?
@vimal190488: Switching the topic from India as a whole to yourself as an individual is pointless.. Muslims across India are forced to sing Vande Mataram and Bhajans in schools.. Openly discriminated against.. Not freely allowed to buy properties in up-scale Hindu areas of residency.. Indian actions are defined by what India does in its neighborhood.. since 1947 nothing but hegemonic land-grab.
@mystz1 Another quite clear example that you are not aware of things on ground.The point is not of Individual or a whole country my friend but the point is of perception. I am quite aware what you are saying but unfortunatly u r not aware fully of your country. Non-Muslim citizens of Pakistan are treated as separate and unequal citizens in a form of religious apartheid. The Constitution and laws of the land are overwhelmingly preferential to Islam, the State Religion, and Muslims .
@vimal190488: *yawn* Non-Muslim citizens of Pakistan are treated as first-rate citizens by Pakistanis.. Pakistan doesn't have a Babri Mosque style demolition of a Hindu temple case to speak of.. Pakistan doesn't have a Gujarat-type massacre to speak of.. What plagues Pakistan are laws enacted by a Islamist dictator Zia-ul-Haq under American support.. Prior to him, there was no 'preference' for Islam in state institutions per se.. Even then, Pakistan has leading non-Muslims
@mystz1 HA.........what a fake analysis? This is a biggest joke I have ever heared in my life.Pakistan doesn't have a Babri Mosque style demolition of Hindu Temples beacuse you didn't leave any temple to stand,so what is a need of demolition? You doesn't have Gujrat like massacre because you have very high standards for act like these. The population statistics from Bangladesh & US Govt publications PROVES that 80 percent of the 3 million people killed by your army in East Pakistan were Hindus.
@vimal190488: Pakistan doesn't have any Temples left? So where do 10000 Sikhs go to pray & have a festival each year in Pakistan? Ever heard of Nankana Sahib and Hassan Abdal? The freedom of worship, security & celebration is guaranteed by the Pakistani state. It is easier for ur one-celled brain to engage in rhetorical satire than actual facts on the ground. Since u have NO justification regarding Babri Mosque case. Apparently the only ppl thinking 3m Bengalis died are Bangladeshis n Indians
@mystz1 So what? This cannot justifies the demolition of Hundreds of Hindu Temples in Pakistan.You don't need to tell me where Nankana Sahib & Panja Sahib exist because these are world famous shrines for Sikh Pilgrims & I don't need give any kind of justification on Babri Demolition as It was an 'Condemnable Act'. You know why? Because I don't belive in 'Extremism' like Many people of India but unfortunately you does because 'Extremism' is a basic ingredient of your Ideology.
@vimal190488: Hahah! where is the evidence? please show us evidence of Hindu Temples being demolished in Pakistan! Infact,even the most conservative Islamic region of the Pakhtunkhwa province has Temples as well as Sikh areas. Many people of India watched silently as Babri Mosque was torn down by Hindu terrorists, many Indians kept quiet when Hindu-terrorists bombed Samjhota Express train and killed 65+ Pakistani families.. YOUR double-standards of playing 'holier than thou' are nonsense!
@mystz1 HA..........U need evidence of your own existance. The number of Hindus in pakistan is so tiny even if these kind of incidence happens on ground you their voice cannot be reaced to anyone because democracy is a virtual thing in Pakistan. Just remember when you govt denied that Ajmal Kasab is Pakistani National then your intellegence services cordon off that area where his family actually lives disappearing the family of Kasab so that world not get able to pickup ur 'WHITE LIE'.
@vimal190488: Number of Hindus in Pakistan has gradually risen.. Being 'tiny' compared to the Muslim population of India doesn't automatically translate into them being discriminated, persecuted, etc.. Most of Pakistan's Hindus left at time of partition.. when the first census was done in 1951, Hindus were under 2m, today there are over 3m.. Also remember that your great Indian intelligence agency RAW armed+financed Tamil Tigers, the worst terror group in South Asia.
@mystz1 And so are the number of muslims in India increasing by rate of 13% while Hindu population is increasing by rate of 10% (2001 census). You can't compare minorities of pakistan to minorities of India.On contrary, Indian Govt never support the demand of separate Tamil state in Sri Lanka as we have also a Tamil state. Yes there are some sympathizers are there in state of Tamil Nadu who urges central govt to support their cause but this was not in favour of Indian integrity in Long term.
@vimal190488: As far as statistics go.. Muslims in India have remained fairly constant.. 12% after partition.. today just over 13%.. As far as Indian govt not supporting Tamil state in Sri Lanka.. the evidence is clearly available here on youtube via IBN report as to how exclusively the Indian state govts under the nose of Congress/Rajiv Gandhi, etc supported LTTE from early '70s till early '80s.. financing, arming, training provided by Indian Army + RAW before turning their backs eventually.
@mystz1 Wow.....ur over dependence on youtube ,clearly describes the standards of Information given by you. First of all, I never say that there was no Indian support of Tamil Elam in Sri Lanka,I said that there was a massive involvement of state Govt of Tamil Nadu not Central Indian Govt. Secondly RAW works under Centarl Govt Not state Govt. Thirdly, Its a question of basic common sense that if Indian govt supported LTTE in past then, why did LTTE kill Rajiv Gandhi?
@vimal190488: IBN is not a teenage kid making videos in his basement.. it is a vast news media organization which many Indians boast off.. the video on youtube is a clip from their Special Report on LTTE.. so instead of splitting hair & wasting my time, find something better to do. *yawn* do tell me why Rajiv Gandhi was killed by LTTE.. it was cuz Congress was try to double-deal with LTTE.. the fact that the IBN report shows LTTE leadership acknowledging RAW input leaves ur argument high n dry!
indpendece is not a solution of backwardness and it is not possible in today's scenario.
The ordinary Kashmiri want peace,employment and development ,we know pakistan is bankrupt in all three dept . So, the realistic solution for kashmir is to make borders irrelevent ,giving kashmiris maximum authorities & providing employment for kashmiri youth.
@vimal190488: The ordinary Kashmiri wants Indian occupation troops out of their lands.. 2008, 2009 and now 2010.. anti-India protests are getting louder and louder
@mystz1 Secondly, in Kashmir valley where majority population is muslim contains 10 districts out of which there seperaterist movement is going on mainly in 5 districts. So, to say that the people of kashmir wants independence from India is not correct. there are some people of kashmir valley who have political concers and sympathy towards pakistans wants freedom.
I would like to tell you that i also belongs to kasmir valley and i am proud to be an Indian.
@vimal190488: *yawn* the same old argument 'oh I am Kashmiri n I love India' - that means NOTHING.. since its ur word against mine. The vote of the 'majority' counts and according to the recent survey conducted in Indian Occupied Kashmir, nearly 70% respondents wanted freedom from India.. Thats enough to hold a plebiscite or referendum in the democratic world.. But unfortunately India follows its own twisted form of democracy where Kashmiris can only have democratic rights if they choose India.
@mystz1 friend, your point of way is way beyond to the ground realities.Firstly, I don't know from where you get these figures but Let us assume for the Sake of Argument there figures are correct & as per your words 'majority' counts then those people who wanted feedom from India or to merger with pakistan are not comparable to 1.15 billion people of India, saying kashmir is Integral part of India.So the point of referendum is irrelevent.
@vimal190488: 1.15b people are Indians 'inside' India.. Kashmiris are NOT Indians.. Referendum and plebiscite has to take place inside Kashmir.. not inside India.. Your childish understanding of how international politics and referendums/plebiscites work is laughable.. I cant laughing at this nonsense logic you just put in ur comment
@mystz1 Secondly, I know the referendum is meant to take place inside Kashmir only not in India. But friend this is India, here no govt can go against the public opinion which is loud & clear that Kashmir is integral part of India which clearly shows that your understanding of democracy is childish not mine.The no 1.15b includes patriotic kashmiri people.Do you know Indian Army have 4 Infantry Regiments form J&K (J&K Rifles,J&K light Infantry,Dogra Regiment & Ladakh Scouts),aren't they Kashmiri?
@vimal190488: Kashmir is only integral part of India for 'Indians'.. no one else sees it that way.. Indians are like Germans under Hitler.. they like to keep telling themselves a lie until they start believing it as the truth.. Out of the FOUR infantry regiments from J&K, how many Muslim soldiers are there? Hardly any! Its a HINDU army of occupation boasting their guns over Muslim sentiment of freedom from Hindu Raj. Keep telling urself Kashmir is integral part, its a bollywood drama u live in
@mystz1 You didn't get kashmir,your no issue is resolved yet & more issues has been arrising. If Indians are like Hitler then you Pakistanis are like an 'Ostrich' burying
their heads in ground you are simply neglecting the needs of your people which wants peace and economic development.For your information the no of muslim soldiers is only 3% in Indian Army but well above the no of hindus & sikhs in Pakistani Army.
@vimal190488: Pakistan does not beat its chest about being 'secular'.. so dont compare a secular country with one that is not.. This is the typical defeatist Indian mindset.. when cannot defend something, try to show that somehow two wrongs make a right.. The way Maoists are enjoying taking over large swathes of Indian territory & how Kashmir is imploding goes to show WHO exactly has been burying their heads in the ground & pretending 'all is well' in 'shining India'
@mystz1 I don't think those who kill innocent people are Muslims or Hindu by any means. In my opinion there are only two kinds of people exists in world 'Good' and 'Evil'. You cannot judge the Ideology of any person by his religion but you can judge it by his perception. Your perception is very clear that you think all Indians are Evil and enemies of muslims. The mindset of Indian and Pakistani people are more or less are same the only differece is " that We Live to Live & You Live to Survive".
@vimal190488: On the contrary, I've dated Indian girls in the past.. one of the benefits of living for sometime in North America.. You continue to express how you judge people based on 'good' and 'evil' while not by religious or national affiliation, yet people like u are quiet when pathetic Indian media labels all Pakistanis as terrorists, ur leaders do the same.. The Muslim factor looms large in this equation.. You live to subjugate others.. We live to earn our rights.
@mystz1 On the other hand Indian constitution provides special conessions and rights to minority population,so it will better to keep quite if you are not aware of things on ground. Secondly, I don't think that Indian media have higher standards but pakistani media is more or less doing same when they blame India whenever a blast took place in pakistan ane Taliban takes responsibility. On the point of subjugation, It will better that you read some History and then analyze who were subjugators.
@vimal190488: We know how much concessions Muslims get from the Indian state. Muslims are denied to take out even a simple bank-loan by state banks to start a business or send their kid to college. Muslims are systematically denied purchase of properties in up-scale areas of Mumbai, Delhi, etc. I dont have to remind u of the amazing report on Muslims that came out of a investigative inquiry in India in 2008 which showed that Muslims fare worse than Dalits. Dont get me started on Indian media
@mystz1 The problem is that you never look yourself before saying anyone that ' u r Ugly'. Did I need to teach you that on what basis Loans are given to anyone? The bank loans are not given on the basis of religion but the ability to return it to bank with Interest. If one Muslim is denied to give a bank loan then 10 Hindus also get denied. You people become Blind,deaf & dumb when a muslim lives in Highest Posh area In India (The President House) as a First citizen of the Country.
@vimal190488: Yes, u do get rejected cuz u're a Muslims.. And apparently, when u're a Muslim and India and have a stack of cash to buy an upscale house in Delhi or Mumbai, you do get refused cuz of ur religion.. I didnt make all this up.. Investigative report by INDIAN panel of experts did.. President? President is a stooge of the governing party.. Congress is well known for its P.R stunts to display 'secular' image of India.. the only thing lacking from all this symbolism is.. SUBSTANCE.
@mystz1 The freedom of worship, security & celebration are which you are mentioning the basic Rights for any religion. Did 161 million Muslims of India goes to Pakistan to perform 'SALAH' on Eid? You can't even imagine in what numbers Muslims perform their prayed on the time of Eid at Jama Masjid Delhi. So.Please don't take this discussion to anywhere else.HA....Again you are showning me your
'DOUBLE STANDARDS' on killings of Innocents by saying these killings as an assumption.
@vimal190488: yeh unfortunately for those 161m Muslims of India.. the only thing they have left is their ability to pray in their historic Mosques... apart from that, they dont have much of a life in Hindu-India.. I dont need to take this discussion to anywhere else.. you seem to have lost the main point of the argument loong time ago!
@mystz1 This is your fake perception my friend not the perception of Muslims of India.
You never visit India, then how can you justify your traditional Muslim Tender analysis.The main point of dicussion was the solution not the confrontation. You start all this confrontaion because in your opinion this may give you the required psychological support for your emotions towards your country. But this will not get you anywhere nither u can change the ground reality nor the history.
@vimal190488: *yawn* I dont need to give myself any psychological support for my emotions for my country.. I've seen first hand what India did in 1971 and in the 1990s in Karachi's sectarian violence.. I tell it how it is.. your charade of being 'friendly' sprouts from your mindset that is based on sweeping problems under the rug and pretending everything is fine when its NOT. Denial is what you are living with; denial of justice, denial of freedom, denial of admission
@mystz1 I never deny anything,as i don't belive in denial. The point of contradiction is that you r pouring Whole of India into into one bucket ( ie, anti-muslim).This is a new world my friend, I don't need to pretend anything since u have such a kind of information access.I just want to clearify you that 'why India is not giving freedom to Kashmiris', because there are people in Kashmir who doesn't want Freedom since they consider themselves as Indian (acc to Chatham house survey).
@vimal190488: Wrong yet again.. If India was soo confident of having Kashmiri hearts and minds on its side, given previous Indian actions, India would hold a plebiscite in J&K tomorrow.. but the complete U-turn on Nehru's commitment to the world is evidence enough of India's fear that it will SURELY lose J&K if it decided to hold a free & fair plebiscite under international supervision.. So if u really believe Chattham House or whoever, do hold a plebiscite, the truth will be for all to see then
@mystz1 As I said earlier many times 'Plebiscite is not a Possible Scenario',neither in present nor in future. Its a matter of few years from now when whole valley will connected through Indian Railway network which helps in massive development of whole J&K region. Nehru's commitment was a thing of Past, those who live in Past can never go ahead.From last two days a massive group of traders & shopkeepers turns against the seperatarists,How long will these people throw stones with empty stomachs?
@vimal190488: it is not possible cuz u r scared.. afraid of the simple fact that Kashmiris will not opt for India.. so u prefer to brush ur dirty laundry underneath the rug as a 'matter of convenience'.. strange! I thought a citizen of the world's 'largest' democracy like u would prefer justice, fairplay n freedom of expression. Past is what Present is built upon and the foundations of Future are laid.. 3yrs and counting, the stones r still there, so are the protesters & they're growing
@mystz1HA...Typical pakistani guesture..well it is of no use in todays world.Whatever u call it,Plebiscite is a thing of Past & this will not going to happen in all ur age.Its only 3yrs for u but every kashmiri knows that it is basic summer exercise of separaterists, so we got habbit of that. Freedom of expression cannot be compromised with soverignity & Integrity.These chanting Rhymes of 'GO India' is just an moral booster for people like u & not worthy enough to take India out from Kashmir.
@vimal190488: Yeh apparently, for all ur arrogance the Indian establishment is shaking in their boots; knowing full well that J&k is slipping out of Indian control gradually.. the same arrogant attitude u show here towards the Kashmiri cause is the same attitude that assures that Kashmiris will never consider themselves Indian.. in ur 'high & mighty' mode of conduct to belittle my argument, u fail to realize u r axing ur own foot.. have at it.. Kashmir continues to slip out of ur grasp.
@mystz1 I'll not deny these allegations because these things still exists in India. You are talking about Rajinder Sachar committee report. We have no hesitation to accept this because if we don't accept our wrong doings then how will it can be rectified? That is why we make this report in order to give justice to our Muslim brothers.Did Rajinder Sachar is a Muslim? NO, because majority of Indian Hindus have sympathy with Muslims Unfortunatly, You don't have this kind perception.
@vimal190488: Apparently, the majority of Indians and their politicians did not 'accept' the Sachar Committee report.. they denounced it as 'appeasement' to Muslims.. Unfortunately your thinking patterns are deluded since you seem to be making assertion after assertion that is NOT backed up by facts.
@mystz1 HA....Did you know the meaning of 'Majority' ? Majority runs govt and its the congress govt which starts all this. Then your point of 'Majority politicians, is just an baseless. Did you ever heard such kind of report on minority Regenration? My thinking pattern is Rational my friend but since you r filled with hatered against Indians then you can't think like a Rational .
@vimal190488: 'majority' meant majority population in India.. the same majority population that will not support peace with Pakistan on the basis of mutual equality and letting Kashmiris decide their own fate without Indian guns to keep them in check.. The same Indians are inherently enemies of the region.. and of Muslims.. whether you admit it or not.. So, start being rational.. until u solve core issues, other gestures are meaningless.
@mystz1 As an Indian, I know what 'Majority' literally means. The majority of Hindus have no problems with Muslims since they r living with them from 1000 years from now.
Those who never consider them as their part r the people of extremist Ideology & there are many people exists of similar Ideology with diff religion in Pakistan. Secondly, the creation of 'Pakistan' irrigates the Ideology of these extremists,Since they considerd it as not a division of Land but the 'Division of Mother India'.
@vimal190488: The only reason Indians a.k.a Hindus live in peace with Muslims of India is cuz the Muslims live under the heel of their shoes.. a community with no real political voice, no real representation, etc.. Whenever 'change' is in the air, a Babri Mosque is demolished, a Gujarat-style massacre is carried out to remind Muslims who the 'boss' is.. in 'great' India.. Similary the Sikhs and Christians are cleansed once every few years in India to remind them who is in charge
@mystz1 Due to Idiotic vision of people who made Pakistan these Muslims become powerless in India and Hindus of Extremist Ideology got the leathal weapon to carve their Anti Muslim perception,sInce they consider partition as the Division of 'Mother India'. Now you can sing all day 'Raag Babri' &'Raag Gujrat' but it wil not help you out to get anything neither in present nor in future. Yes, you can comment anything because u r not living in Subcontinent but this attitude will take you nowhere ?
@vimal190488: *yawn* yeh due to idiotic arrogance of Congress.. if Congress had accepted the Cabinet Mission Plan, u'd still have ur united India. Anyways, fact of the matter is, today Hindu-extremists have more power than you think, the RSS, VHP, ShivSena, BajrangDal, AbhinavBharat, all have massive grass roots pool of recruits for their cleansing of non-Hindus that they carry out every few yrs.. the rest of the 'moderate' Indians r too busy with bollywood n buying a Gucci or LV handbag to care
@mystz1 Wow .... Now u r telling me about the powers of RSS & VHP. You forget my friend, this is India not Pakistan.These groups are the topics of every pakistani discussion program but instead of wasting whole ur time on these ,if u just contribute half of your time to concentrate on Jihadi groups in pakistan then it would be a total different scenario today for pakistan.
@vimal190488: No Jihadi group in Pakistan kills thousands of non-Muslim Pakistanis once every few years as a ritual or demolishes historical places of worship of non-Muslims.. but apparently, in India, its an annual sport for RSS, VHP, ShivSena bhakts & goons
@mystz1 Thirdly, internationally no one is backing these seperatorists except Pakistan ( The Zero credibility Nation). So, they cant implement the UN resolutions as no one is with them internationally nor they are powerfull enough economically & militarily. Still thinking that Kashmir will be a independent nation one day....then take a big Yawn & Have a Sweet Dream of Independent Kashmir.
@vimal190488: Many states back Kashmiris not just Pakistan. Like I said, ur patriotism cant change facts or ground realities. You can continue to live inside your little bubble of Indian-ness. it works well for Kashmir cuz while u sleep in ur obliviousness. J&K continues to slip out of Indian hands underneath ur noses. As I said before, Kashmiris dont need any foreign help, whether from Pakistan or anyone else.. If India truly is a democracy, it will eventually lose to Kashmiri people's power
@mystz1 Friend,Unfortunately u r giving your opinion sitting other side of world. I am a resident of kashmir living in jammu city. So i know the ground realities better than you. It will be childish to go for referendum on behalf of 5 districts of kashmir valley. The majority kashmiri people are not in favour of independence (which you will never accept),they want development, peace and withdrawal of troops so that they can live their life comfortably.
@vimal190488: Suddenly every Indian starts saying, 'I am sitting in Jammu' when there is no other point left to defend their argument.. i dont have to believe you.. I have international surveys, opinion polls that are NOT tainted by pro-Indian patriotic sentiment of ppl like urself.. I dont have to live in Kashmir to know what goes on.. thousands of videos exist of Black flags and Pakistani flags flying on kashmiri houses on India's independence day.. that is the ugly truth you cannot hide from
@mystz1 Thirdly ,you are not complete aware of history. It was the 'Stupidity of Pakistani admn' due to which Kashmir fell into hands of India.This in not my word but it is the word of Rtd. Air Marshall Asghar Khan of your Air Force.At that time Maharaja choose India because your people attacked Kashmir instead of negotiating with maharaja. Which clearly shows that you people not learned from your mistakes. Now keep say that Kashmir will be Independent one day because u r living in imagination.
@vimal190488: Rules of partition dictate that the wishes of the inhabitants of princely states shall trump all other factors.. Maharaja's decision counts for zilch.. an alleged document he signed in secrecy which so far remains hidden.. Dont worry.. you keep saying that Kashmir is 'integral' part.. 63yrs and counting.. anti-India protests are only getting louder & stronger.. Times are changing.. even pro-Indian Kashmiris sitting in Delhi are writing about J&K slipping out of Indian hands!
@mystz1 Friend , I have lot to say & i don't need to defend my argument because i am
giving my opinion on the basis ground realities. Your Kashmir is confined Around the houses of separaterists and your opinion is on the based of video tubes way beyond the ground realities and reality is that Kashmir is well beyond your imagination.
@vimal190488: *yawn* you have nothing to say other than ill-informed nonsense based on your patriotic fervor of some self-imagined sense of entitlement of being handed J&K.. thousands of documentaries exist on the plight of J&K and its inhabitants who want nothing to do with India.. but ofcourse, an errant ignorant patriotic Indian will keep denyin till its too late to matter.
@mystz1 Due to this perception only you are not been able to stand on your own feet yet . You always neglect the needs of poor people of your country and serve weapons in their plates instead of food. I don't need to go further because I think you must quite aware of these things, If u r not then it is very unfortunate for your nation. Intead of blaming India if you starts to analysing yourself then half of problems will automatically get solved. But unfortunatly you r not in mood to do so.
@vimal190488: The same can be said about you.. 700m Indians live on under $2 a a day.. malnutrition is worse than in sub-Saharan Africa.. yet India has resources to fund an occupation army of 700000+ in J&K to enforce a gradual landgrab and denial of rights to those who want to do away with Indian hegemony.. The Chinese figured it out in time in 1962, kicked Indians out of their territory.. Thats the only way you learn to respect others.
@mystz1 Ha.........The situation is even worse in your country,the rate of people below poverty line is increasing in Pakistan while in India it decreased to 10% from 2001. The Indian Defence budget is only 2 % of GDP on the other hand Pakistan spend 3-4 % of GDP on defence.These facts are clear to show that who is snatching food from poor.What ever you call J&K, occupied territory or landgrab or anything, the fact is that you have to accept the truth that J&K is an Indian territory.
@vimal190488: Pakistan is in a state of war.. sucked in by WoT in Afg.. India is NOT in a state of war.. Perhaps it would serve u better to go figure out the economics of war.. Pakistan is battling for its survival from suicide bombers.. not India.. the inhabitants of J&K dont accept their land as 'Indian' territory.. why should I? Your denial works well to add fuel to the fire of secession in J&K.. have at it
@mystz1 But shouts whenever this kind of incidents takes place. You pretend yourself As the biggest Tender of Muslims , But did you ever thaught that what did you give to Muslims? You gave them a 'Failed State' where there is no security of life, no food to eat & no Education for children. I am not justifying Gujrat & Babri demolition because we don't live in DENIAL & we don't believe in burryng Heads into ground like you people. Those who kill innocents are not Humans by any means.
@vimal190488: Apparently, the only people who love to talk abt Pakistan as a failed state are 'Indians'.. fed by their insecurities that such a 'failed' state is able to have nuclear weapons.. dumb-founded by the fact that try as u may n want as u may, Pakistan exists and even in such harsh times such as the past few years.. carries on.. a state whose will to fight the odds is beyond the understanding of Indians.. but ofcourse how would u know what a failed state is? Go tour Somalia or Zimbabwe
@mystz1 HAHA..............lol. You r trying to say that you 'Failed-State Index' is 'Fake' ? HA......A Big round of applause for you. Again blaming India for your Failiure. A Traditional Pakistani Denial. Well Friend, this is Rediculous. Did you ever think how do you reach to such a 'Harsh Times'? If No, then it is very unfortunate for your country. These nuclear weapons will not give food, clothing & shelter to the poor people of your country.
@vimal190488: Again, go read what the people who publish the so-called 'Failed State Index' say.. the main reason Pakistan exists in that list is cuz of WoT and the havoc it has wrecked on Pakistan.. Exactly! Go tell your fellow Indians... sending Indians to the moon and building nuclear submarines will NOT feed the 500m malnourished Indians... Recent report published has given India the title of having the MOST hungry-mouths in the world.. So much for 'double-standards'!
@mystz1 Can you explain how you indulge in this 'WoT'? Did India brings you in this 'WoT'? Did India suggest you to feed those monsters ? We have other things to do my friend rather then taking on your nation. Yes, both things are correct about India we are going to send Indian on Moon and we have more than 500m hungry mouths as well. But atleast we have one positive thing,Unfortunatly U have only Hungry Mouths & struggle for own survival.
@vimal190488: American brought WoT to Pakistan.. And apparently, if u havent read ur morning paper, Indian state's integrity is seriously challenged by the Maoists/Naxalites as admitted by your Prime Minister.. step out of ur little comfy bubble of denial for a change.
@mystz1 Friend, 'You can't clap with one Hand'.Pakistan always seeks for weapons & money from America to extend Jihad in Kashmir,Since the 'Tap' of Jihadis was closed by Musharraf in 2004 then these Jihadi Org becomes the enemy of Pakistani state & the result of 'Digging the Pit' for India is in front of u now. On the point of Maoists, first u need to get aware the Ideology of 'Mao Tse Sung'. Maoists are not Terrorists,their Ideology is againsts the Govt policies not against the India.
@vimal190488: Apparently the contradictory tone in Indian politics is there for all to witness.. one day Defence Ministry of India announces that there is NO infiltration from Pakistan.. the next day, Indian Army's HQ announces, infiltration is at its worst.. India is digging its own 'pit', others need not do much.. As for Maoists, go & tell the destitute villagers in India's 23 of 29 states where Maoists garner grass-roots level support.. but I guess for u, they're all 'terrorists'.. hahah
FUCK GRAND MOTHER OF INDIA HEHEHE HAHAHA FUCK
485008 4 weeks ago
This is half truth!
gokulbutail 1 month ago
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yes pakistan occupied kashmir is a problem . India need to do something about it .
prithvie02 1 month ago
INDIA-THE MAIN AGGRESSOR, LOL!
thehardytube 2 months ago
reminds me why i hate Endia sooooo much
immykush1 4 months ago
hahahahahah pakistan it self indian terriotry ,so stop talking half dicks ...your are in forigen land so fuck out of our land
pakifucker999999999 4 months ago
@chitrakuut Logic must prevail. Here you are calling for a problem by blaming the religion for it. Logically, you need to refer to the book of Islam (Quran) and quote form there instead of turning to a religion which is under attack. The proof is your statement and one must reply to your misinformed statement. My apologies if it hearts your feelings but please do refer to the book and seek the truth for yourself and the truth shall free you.
worldpeace123 5 months ago
I am so sick of soldiers......all you soldiers are sell outs who seem to enjoy oppressing others . Know this though. your not tough. your like a dog in a pack....thats why you run with soldiers ..to feel important.....in actuality it makes you very small within ...to kill , to beat, to belittle, to invade....ITS WRONG the money you earn is blood money....despite how your gov deceives you that it is honor to serve the them...its a shame
232323C 6 months ago
Suggestion go to Communist China the brutal state who is killing Buddhist and Muslim, Christians and liberate Tibet and Muslim areas from the tyrant state China. India is a great democracy and secular, and a superpower. we are open thus you can move all over India. In Chinas you could have never made this documentary.
LaliSJamwal 6 months ago
The Pakistani terrorist disguise as Indian army and has been killing Kashmiris so as to blame them. The Pakistani terrorist hack the limbs and other parts of the body of the Kashmiri to show that Indian army are brutal, so that they can keep the uprising.
sunilf007 1 year ago
seperate from India but dont export your bastards to our country like those motherfucking dark ugly illegeal uneducated unhygenic bangladeshi terrorists. why dont these fucking liberal english morons go to the bengal border and make a film on illegal bangladeshi migrants entering the country illegally. Bitches.
rimmel10 1 year ago
Kashmiris are the victim of what they did to Kashmiri Pandits decades ago...Kashmiri population has always supported fanatic religious fundamentalism and terrorism which is now biting them only.... Stop supporting terrorism and live in peace.... and also don't ever dream of freedom because Kashmir was always part of India and it will be....with or without Kashmiris......
rahulforworld 1 year ago 2
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zulfitareen 1 year ago
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zulfitareen 1 year ago
@zulfitareen Its true.. although religion has been sold by freemasons (illuminati) islam is the only religion not worshipping a form of sun. Quran is the only book not altered, and is the only religion without an idol or statue to pray.
DKBN 1 year ago
@zulfitareen Its true.. although religion has been sold by freemasons (illuminati) islam is the only religion not worshipping a form of sun. Quran is the only book not altered, and is the only religion without an idol or statue to pray.
and the only religion freemasons are trying to destroy !
DKBN 1 year ago
a message to muslim bros/sis
Muhammad claimed in sura 4: 34 that allah prefers men over women, because men are more intelligent and spend their money on women.
in case any woman is disobedient, give her warning, stop sleeping with her and finally beat her.
if she obeys then do not beat her, which also means keep beating her untill she obeys.
in the book, " 101 myths of the bible", greenberg proved that biblical stories had their origins in egyptian mythology.
THINK CRITICALLY
zulfitareen 1 year ago
message to muslims bro/sis
Muhammad claimed in sura 13:02 21:33 31:29 36:40 and 39:05 that sun and moon travel across sky in fixed orbits at fixed speed. But he didn’t know that Sun never travels across sky. It is the spinning of earth that makes the sun appear to be travelling from east to west.
Of course he had no clue of the solar system. If he did he could have mentioned that earth spins on its axis or eath revolves around sun.
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zulfitareen 1 year ago
Message to muslim bros/sis
Muhammad claimed in sura 23:14 that sperm changes into congeal blood, then bones come out and then meat is wrapped around the bones.
Though he copied it from galen, the greek physician; both were utterly wrong.
The science says that sperm does not change into congeal blood. In fact the blood comes into play at a much later stage in the development of embryo. Science has proven the Koranic explanation of embryo development an utter nonsense
THINK CRITICALLY
zulfitareen 1 year ago
@zulfitareen is a fake with sum dum comments that are not true at all. He iz trying to be clever but does not know anything about the quran, i dont think his ever read it, his a spastik!
realfizzy 1 year ago
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zulfitareen 1 year ago
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zulfitareen 1 year ago
@zulfitareen is really a jew.
realfizzy 1 year ago
@realfizzy
did you read my profile?
i hate moses, ram, shyam, and jesus as much as i hate muhammad.
zulfitareen 1 year ago
@zulfitareen is an atheist who has no faith as you can see in his comments but why is a person with no religion talking about religion?
realfizzy 1 year ago
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@realfizzy
you will get the answer if you read my profile.
zulfitareen 1 year ago
@realfizzy
i hate religions and its founders. i do not hate people.
people are the victims of religion.
people have been indoctrinated in childhood by their parents into beliving the lies and superstitions of religion.
zulfitareen 1 year ago
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zulfitareen 1 year ago
“RELIGION IS THE BIGGEST VACUUM CLEANER
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zulfitareen 1 year ago
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zulfitareen 1 year ago
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We, Asians, are expert in selling vacuum cleaners to the world.
We sold the vacuum cleaners of Judaism and Christianity to the world.
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We specialize in creating and selling the vacuum cleaners in the name of religion.
zulfitareen 1 year ago
“RELIGION IS THE BIGGEST VACUUM CLEANER
SOLD TO THE PEOPLE
BY THEY PEOPLE
TO RIP OFF PEOPLE”.
Zulfiqar tareen, the mortal enemy of Moses, Jesus, Muhammad and all pagan Gods.
zulfitareen 1 year ago
“RELIGION IS THE BIGGEST VACUUM CLEANER
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BY THEY PEOPLE
TO RIP OFF PEOPLE”.
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zulfitareen 1 year ago
We, Asians, are expert in selling vacuum cleaners to the world.
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zulfitareen 1 year ago
"moment we get a after a person they say oh he was an innocent person. we work only on hard intelligence, we do not go around torturing any common person"
well said Purushottham!
bennyagp 1 year ago
message to muslim bros/sis:
In book “arda viraf namag” (226-240 AD), the zoroastrian priest arda viraf described his journey into sky to meet his diety.
Accompanied by arch angel Bahman, he journyed through different levels of heavens and hells before finally reaching his deity Ahura Mazda sitting on the throne in 7the heaven
In 7th century AD., Muhammad, accompanied by acrh angel gabriel, claimed to have made the similar journey into sky on a white horse to meet his deity.
THINK CRITICALLY
zulfitareen 1 year ago
@zulfitareen :) what an idiot u think Islam can be defeated with such low tiny thing?
comparing and decieving (i am sure u changedlittle here and little there to make them both fit together 100%)
The Muslims believe not for such storeis ... this is not the base of our faith idiot.
so go bark else where..
u wanna argue talk about FAITH.
what u do is trying to shake some story origins. not FAITH it self.
if I start talking about your faith u will collapse in 5 min.
snaforfun 1 year ago
@zulfitareen and finally ,
we Muslim believe in all prophets around the world in history.
and all prophets are from he ONE GOD.
and we dont say like christians and jews it was for jews only.
we believe that Allah Sent to every nation a prophet or messenger.
so when u find any similarity in some areas , is natural .. all are prophets , all believed in same teachings ..
no one claimed that the Prophet Journy to heavens was for him only ... it mite happened to other prophet as well.
snaforfun 1 year ago
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GhettoDiner 1 year ago 2
May allah Make the mujahideen of kashmir victorious and double in number. ameen
musafir415 1 year ago 2
@musafir415
Currently the mujahideen are dying. If they double then their death rate will double too.
orceller 1 year ago
@orceller heh u are stupid , all ALL muslims are Mujahideen.
Jihad is part of faith.
u will have to kill 1.5 billions ...
it is considered the 6th pillar of Islam.
if you DIE and dont think of Jihad and fighting the enemy of Islam , you die with a branch of hypocrcy in ur heart.
you will NEVER end Jihad. it is Deeply rooted.
snaforfun 1 year ago
@snaforfun
Thats why all the muslims are being made fun of. We will break all the pillars of islam. look at Iraq. Look at Afganistan and Pakistan how muslims are killing each other.
orceller 1 year ago
@orceller this propaganda is for YOU only.
listen, all those bombings and killings are being done by puppet governments secret agents , CIA and undercover operations.
remote controled bombs , and the puppet installed governemnt who has the authority there go on tv and say its suicide attacks.
we Muslims KNOW this is all fabrications and YOUR doing via Proxy . the refugees are saying it .. but they never allow it into the media.
burned bodies dont talk. any burned body can be framed.
snaforfun 1 year ago
@snaforfun
So we shouldn`t believe media. We should believe you. The others are not at all involved in you people. We all have better things to do.
By the way why dont you bomb CIA and other puppet agents when they are butchering you. After all Jihad is one pillar of Islam.
orceller 1 year ago
@orceller no u dont have better things to do
u wanted to destro IRAQ and steal its oil , destroy afghanistan coz u hate Islamic shria law and dont want new islamic state .
and all the rest is Propaganda.
we know it coz it IS against islamic teaching to kill civilians and kids
EVEN to cut tree . yes u are not allowed to cut trees and corrupt earth that is no mass destruction weapons.
why dont u go and learn about ISLAM laws b4 u talk
the progpaganda is to make u support the war
snaforfun 1 year ago
@snaforfun
Don`t tell me the stories that you read in your local newspaper. If everyone else hates you people there is a reason. When you people destroyed Bamiyan Buddh Statue in Afganistan everyone witnessed what kind of mentality you have.
orceller 1 year ago
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@orceller local news paper? are u insane ? I am from Syria Damascus , we have 1 million Iraqis refugees here . this is TRUTH.
actually an Iraqi rented my home.
you are the one whos reading media without direct contact with anything.
as for a statue u are so fond of , well we dont allow statues in our country . it is a false GOD and we destroy false GODS that pple worship, not your business.
we are proud of it. GOD ordered us to remove every false taken gods.
snaforfun 1 year ago
@orceller @orceller local news paper? are u insane ? I am from Syria Damascus , we have 1 million Iraqis refugees here . this is TRUTH.
actually an Iraqi rented my home.
you are the one whos reading media without direct contact with anything.
as for a statue u are so fond of , well we dont allow statues in our country . it is a false GOD and we destroy false GODS that pple worship, not your business.
we are proud of it. GOD ordered us to remove every false taken gods.
snaforfun 1 year ago
@snaforfun
Your God ordered it that why you are doing it. Similarly our GOD ordered to kill muslims and so we are killing you. Fair deal?. Lets see which God wins.
orceller 1 year ago
@orceller no u are liar. our GOD and your GOD is the SAME ONE GOD.
and you are liar about killing Muslims. how DARE you lie about killing Muslims ?
u LIE about GOD's Words ?
we will remove the statues and everything false in this world.
we got the proofs . you have nothing but man made things.
and GOD , our GOD and YOUR GOD will judge between us !
see how real believer talk ? u CANT talk like THAT. u have NO knowledge and you DONT even KNOW GOD.
snaforfun 1 year ago
@snaforfun
We know who our gods are. Thats why we make their statues. Buddha was born at my place. People witnessed his powers. Those who dont see his powers are blind.
You dont know who your god is. Thats why you can`t make their statues. After all you also build moques which are man-made. But you dont know what to keep inside them.
orceller 1 year ago
@orceller heh u think GOD is human ? looool .. powers? LOOOOOL
his power couldnt stop him from running sooo fast to the bathroom LOOOL
there is NOTHING like GOD .
being human is inferior and very low and weak... he needed air to breath didnt he? needed to eat and drink ... a small germ could infect him
u are full of rubbish ...
Budha was Born ? GOD born ?
zzzzzz booring
oh and no one saw his powers and met him ... u are the blind who believe in stories that u cant prove.
read the Quran
snaforfun 1 year ago
@snaforfun
"there is NOTHING like GOD ." and in your previous post you said you pray to god. This means you yourself is not sure whether god is there or not, Your whole religion is just a hoax and parody.
Also, you need to improve your GK. There are better books to read than Quran. I am not blind you are blind, deaf and dumb.
Quran should be thrown in toilet and then flushed......thats where it came from and thats where it should go.
orceller 1 year ago
@orceller ok since u insulted the holy Quran like this. nothing between us but death and the battlefield.
and I am sure of GOD the unseen the all Mighty. whio sent messengers with Miracles from him that make ur budha look like idiot. but still they never said it was their work but the work of GOD.
as the fruits of each teaching. I can see ur religion fruits. what u said about the holy Quran without even reading it. we will fight and destroy your budha statues . and lets see his pathetic powers!
snaforfun 1 year ago
@snaforfun
Arent you seeing your gods pathetic powers when 1 million Iraq`s fled and entered your syria. Where is your God now?, Ask him to save you . You know that he doesn`t exists ANSYWHEHER except in minds of fools like you.
Mujhaideen were defetated by Indian forces in 1999 war. How many times you will face defeat by our hands. Aren`t your women ashamed at impotent men like you.
orceller 1 year ago
@orceller life is a trial is nothing. the other life is the life .. so when u die for GOD u will goto heaven and paradise..
actually when u die if u are a believer it is happiness..
snaforfun 1 year ago
@orceller mosques are buildings to pray to GOD there ONLY
we dont worship the stones idiot. they are house of GOD to worship god inside thats all .. and we keep them for religion only and pure ..
we pray to GOD and can pray anywhere ... not only in Mosques.
snaforfun 1 year ago
@snaforfun
We know who our gods are unlike you fools who dont know whom they are praying.
I know you can pray anywhere...but who is listening to your prayers?...
orceller 1 year ago
@orceller bla bla bla
why isnt his father and mother gods huh ? and b4 that?
u just said he was BORN
what an IDIOT ..
born from dirty semen
u believe in fabrication and stories in books that human like u is your GOD ?
he couldnt even stop shitting on himself if couldnt fond a place to shit.
pouldnt remove shit from his creation he carried SHIT inside HIM.
and he looks ugly and fat lol
snaforfun 1 year ago
@snaforfun
beauty is in the eyes of beholders. An idiot like you doesn`t know what beauty lies in Buddha or Jain or Chirst or Krishna. Your prophet is so ugly that he doesn`t want his face to be drawn. He knew people will know that he was a leper and beggar.
When our god peed on earth it all fell on Pakistan , that why muslims were drownong there. and yes....your god couldnt save them.
orceller 1 year ago
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snaforfun 1 year ago
@snaforfun
Thats why you are dying to see the beauty of your god. Now its Iraq, tomorrow we will come to Syria and send you to hell. thats where you fools are going.
orceller 1 year ago
@snaforfun
finally i m going for work because
"If you fight with a pig in mud both you and pig will get dirt but soon you will realize that pig is enjoying"
thats why you are enjoying. but i m not a pig like you. I have some better things to do in my life other than so called Jihaaaaaaaaad.
orceller 1 year ago
@orceller @orceller I am glad that people who will read what I said . and what u said will see what Budh PAGANS are ...
u fail miserably worshipper of weakling human ...
we will meet in the battle field.
snaforfun 1 year ago
@snaforfun
He was not a muslim who was born from dirty semen. You muslims have sex with your own sister. ha ha ha. Must be written in quran. Tomorrow you will have sex with your mother then say it is written by quran part 2.
orceller 1 year ago
@orceller Where are you from . Can Muslim talk about religion No they can,t be then why you use rubbish language about Islam Mother fucker
hassan1988ist 1 year ago
@orceller heh the reason is that u are sheeps and follow cinema and movies and media and never bothered to see if true or not. and is at war time .. propaganda time !
snaforfun 1 year ago
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@orceller they are fighting the CIA and NATO and puppets and staged rulers and they are winning
10 years and counting.
all what u can do is bombing civilians and blame it on them to cover your defeat there.
time will tell :)
snaforfun 1 year ago
no matter what we will crush the call for freedom by the separatists with brute force.
89aneesh 1 year ago
you indian s will go to hell for burning our mosque.
kam4sid 1 year ago
@kam4sid
hopefully we will burn down many more mosques
dethica 1 year ago
@dethica
go for it, they are only brick and mud, but the people have the real mosque in their hearts, and that you will never burn, that is a never ending struggle for you that will NEVER win.
hudfadz 1 year ago
@kam4sid
We will make your life hell here by burning more mosques.
orceller 1 year ago
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Kashmiri Men are bastards...biggest bastards on the face of the planet...the kashmiris living outside kashmir are mother fucking bastards...most of these guys are high on drugs...and they screw women like they are BORN from a whores cunt...Hell with Kashmiris...Hell with Kashmir...
mexicamexica 1 year ago
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Kashmiri Men are bastards...biggest bastards on the face of the planet...the kashmiris living outside kashmir are mother fucking bastards...most of these guys are high on drugs...and they screw women like they are BORN from a whores cunt...Hell with Kashmiris...Hell with Kashmir...
mexicamexica 1 year ago
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Kashmiri Men are bastards...biggest bastards on the face of the planet...the kashmiris living outside kashmir are mother fucking bastards...most of these guys are high on drugs...and they screw women like they are BORN from a whores cunt...Hell with Kashmiris...Hell with Kashmir...
mexicamexica 1 year ago
Islamic intolerance is destroying once peaceful Kashmiri folks.
I was born in Kashmir and left the Valley on Jan 20th 1990. On the preceding night, the loud speakers from Mosques blared night long hate propaganda against Minority Hindus, Christians. The clerics making announcements wanted minority men to leave Kashmir, leaving behind their women.
Kashmir will be next Afghanistan, devolve into a lawless tribal region where women will have their noses cut as per Holy Sharia!
AVictimofTerror 1 year ago
@AVictimofTerror: whatever J&K will become is NOT ur headache.. that decision rests with Kashmiris... how they want to rule & be ruled in their land.. One thing they do want for sure is END OF INDIAN OCCUPATION of their lands!
mystz1 1 year ago
Keep killing the innocent, you bloody Indian murderers!!
maverick7597 1 year ago
Be realistic India is a bigger power & it considers Kashmir as a part of its main territory. India never accepts the independence of kashmir as it will severly hurts its soveregnity.
So, to think that anyone can make kashmir independent by force is irrelevent .
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: No state's power is bigger than the power of the people.. India will be brought down to its knees by the power and will of the Kashmiris.. India cannot occupy a nation and its lands forever
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 for your information i would like to tell you that the state of jammu & kashmir is not limited to srinagar,baramula ,anantnaag & shopian where these protests takes place. It contains mainly three provinces Jammu,Kashmir valley & Laddakh.The majority population in jammu region is hindu & in Laddakh majority population is Buddhist the muslims of this regions feels themselves Indian as much as i do.The voting %age of this region is much higherthan any state of India.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: Yes I am aware of what makes up J&K.. This is an easy escape route taken by most Indians in an argument to separately talk about Jammu, Ladakh & Kashmir Valley.. The princely state of J&K which India occupied militarily consisted ALL three regions.. Muslims make up the overall majority no matter if other religious denominations are in majority in certain areas. At the end of the day, the argument remains, a 700,000 armed occupation force cannot subjugate another nation..
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 Secondly,the forces are there to tackle insurgents. The 70% of security forces is located near LOC which is a conflict zone not an international border,the no of army personnel incresed in large numbers after 1999 Kargil war to tackle any kind of repeated incident.So, the point subjugate is also meaningless as it is our territory not ' another nation'.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: According to Chidambram, there are only 100 active militants left in J&K.. so you're telling me you need 700,000 Indian troops in J&K for 100 militants? Maybe these lies work in India.. not outside your country.. Subjugating another nation through a military occupation is what Indian actions in J&K are.. whether you like it or not.. Your patriotism cant change facts on the ground.
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 Thirdly friend, I don't know from which religion you belongs to but i would like to tell you a fact that Kashmir is not a Islamic state but a Islamic majority state.Whenever an innocent died the whole Islamic world condemns the incident because they connect kashmir to islam but no one talks to thousands innocent kashmiri pandits killed brutally by millitants .The 400000 kashmiri pandits are forced to convert to Islam otherwise to leave kashmir,aren't they Kashmiri?
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: *yawn* what Kashmiri pundits went through was revenge for what Indian Army started doing to innocent Muslim youths in Kashmir.. You make it sound like Kashmiri pundits are so innocent.. perhaps many were.. But since Indian Army's occupation of Kashmir started.. the fact they were Hindus, Indian Army started using them as informants.. Whether Kashmir is Islamic or Islamic majority, according to rules of partition of subcontinent, India has NO legal position to keep occupying Kashmir
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 lol...........the way u r justifying the killing of kashmiri pandits clearly shows
your extremist mindset. Now how can you say that these muslim youth which you are talking are innocent ? Aren't they informants of millitants? I will not justfy the killing of innocent kashmiri boys because I am not extremist.You are suffering from typical pakistani Anti-India and Anti-Hindu ideology.Friend,This Ideology will not take
you anywhere. What you get from last 63 years from this ideology?
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: The same that you got from anti-Muslim ideology.. lets not forget what Golwalkar said.. the seeds that he had sown are now bearing fruit in Indian society's Hindu-fascist ideology.. in name & in paper India remains secular.. but everyone knows what goes on in the alleys away from the world's eyes as the gullible Western public is distracted by the facade of 'India shining'..
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 Friend, all fingers of a hand are not similar. This is your wrong perception
towards Indians. Yes, there are some people in India And Pakistan who like to go about the same old beaten path but it doesn't mean that every Indian is an Enemy of Pakistan.
70% Hindus (I am giving confined facts,but in reality it is more than 80% ) in India are are with Indian muslims. It was muslims who save me & my family from millitants in 1989 . Now ,How can I say that all muslims are Evil ?
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: Switching the topic from India as a whole to yourself as an individual is pointless.. Muslims across India are forced to sing Vande Mataram and Bhajans in schools.. Openly discriminated against.. Not freely allowed to buy properties in up-scale Hindu areas of residency.. Indian actions are defined by what India does in its neighborhood.. since 1947 nothing but hegemonic land-grab.
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 Another quite clear example that you are not aware of things on ground.The point is not of Individual or a whole country my friend but the point is of perception. I am quite aware what you are saying but unfortunatly u r not aware fully of your country. Non-Muslim citizens of Pakistan are treated as separate and unequal citizens in a form of religious apartheid. The Constitution and laws of the land are overwhelmingly preferential to Islam, the State Religion, and Muslims .
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: *yawn* Non-Muslim citizens of Pakistan are treated as first-rate citizens by Pakistanis.. Pakistan doesn't have a Babri Mosque style demolition of a Hindu temple case to speak of.. Pakistan doesn't have a Gujarat-type massacre to speak of.. What plagues Pakistan are laws enacted by a Islamist dictator Zia-ul-Haq under American support.. Prior to him, there was no 'preference' for Islam in state institutions per se.. Even then, Pakistan has leading non-Muslims
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 HA.........what a fake analysis? This is a biggest joke I have ever heared in my life.Pakistan doesn't have a Babri Mosque style demolition of Hindu Temples beacuse you didn't leave any temple to stand,so what is a need of demolition? You doesn't have Gujrat like massacre because you have very high standards for act like these. The population statistics from Bangladesh & US Govt publications PROVES that 80 percent of the 3 million people killed by your army in East Pakistan were Hindus.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: Pakistan doesn't have any Temples left? So where do 10000 Sikhs go to pray & have a festival each year in Pakistan? Ever heard of Nankana Sahib and Hassan Abdal? The freedom of worship, security & celebration is guaranteed by the Pakistani state. It is easier for ur one-celled brain to engage in rhetorical satire than actual facts on the ground. Since u have NO justification regarding Babri Mosque case. Apparently the only ppl thinking 3m Bengalis died are Bangladeshis n Indians
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 So what? This cannot justifies the demolition of Hundreds of Hindu Temples in Pakistan.You don't need to tell me where Nankana Sahib & Panja Sahib exist because these are world famous shrines for Sikh Pilgrims & I don't need give any kind of justification on Babri Demolition as It was an 'Condemnable Act'. You know why? Because I don't belive in 'Extremism' like Many people of India but unfortunately you does because 'Extremism' is a basic ingredient of your Ideology.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: Hahah! where is the evidence? please show us evidence of Hindu Temples being demolished in Pakistan! Infact,even the most conservative Islamic region of the Pakhtunkhwa province has Temples as well as Sikh areas. Many people of India watched silently as Babri Mosque was torn down by Hindu terrorists, many Indians kept quiet when Hindu-terrorists bombed Samjhota Express train and killed 65+ Pakistani families.. YOUR double-standards of playing 'holier than thou' are nonsense!
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 HA..........U need evidence of your own existance. The number of Hindus in pakistan is so tiny even if these kind of incidence happens on ground you their voice cannot be reaced to anyone because democracy is a virtual thing in Pakistan. Just remember when you govt denied that Ajmal Kasab is Pakistani National then your intellegence services cordon off that area where his family actually lives disappearing the family of Kasab so that world not get able to pickup ur 'WHITE LIE'.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: Number of Hindus in Pakistan has gradually risen.. Being 'tiny' compared to the Muslim population of India doesn't automatically translate into them being discriminated, persecuted, etc.. Most of Pakistan's Hindus left at time of partition.. when the first census was done in 1951, Hindus were under 2m, today there are over 3m.. Also remember that your great Indian intelligence agency RAW armed+financed Tamil Tigers, the worst terror group in South Asia.
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 And so are the number of muslims in India increasing by rate of 13% while Hindu population is increasing by rate of 10% (2001 census). You can't compare minorities of pakistan to minorities of India.On contrary, Indian Govt never support the demand of separate Tamil state in Sri Lanka as we have also a Tamil state. Yes there are some sympathizers are there in state of Tamil Nadu who urges central govt to support their cause but this was not in favour of Indian integrity in Long term.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: As far as statistics go.. Muslims in India have remained fairly constant.. 12% after partition.. today just over 13%.. As far as Indian govt not supporting Tamil state in Sri Lanka.. the evidence is clearly available here on youtube via IBN report as to how exclusively the Indian state govts under the nose of Congress/Rajiv Gandhi, etc supported LTTE from early '70s till early '80s.. financing, arming, training provided by Indian Army + RAW before turning their backs eventually.
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 Wow.....ur over dependence on youtube ,clearly describes the standards of Information given by you. First of all, I never say that there was no Indian support of Tamil Elam in Sri Lanka,I said that there was a massive involvement of state Govt of Tamil Nadu not Central Indian Govt. Secondly RAW works under Centarl Govt Not state Govt. Thirdly, Its a question of basic common sense that if Indian govt supported LTTE in past then, why did LTTE kill Rajiv Gandhi?
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: IBN is not a teenage kid making videos in his basement.. it is a vast news media organization which many Indians boast off.. the video on youtube is a clip from their Special Report on LTTE.. so instead of splitting hair & wasting my time, find something better to do. *yawn* do tell me why Rajiv Gandhi was killed by LTTE.. it was cuz Congress was try to double-deal with LTTE.. the fact that the IBN report shows LTTE leadership acknowledging RAW input leaves ur argument high n dry!
mystz1 1 year ago
indpendece is not a solution of backwardness and it is not possible in today's scenario.
The ordinary Kashmiri want peace,employment and development ,we know pakistan is bankrupt in all three dept . So, the realistic solution for kashmir is to make borders irrelevent ,giving kashmiris maximum authorities & providing employment for kashmiri youth.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: The ordinary Kashmiri wants Indian occupation troops out of their lands.. 2008, 2009 and now 2010.. anti-India protests are getting louder and louder
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 Secondly, in Kashmir valley where majority population is muslim contains 10 districts out of which there seperaterist movement is going on mainly in 5 districts. So, to say that the people of kashmir wants independence from India is not correct. there are some people of kashmir valley who have political concers and sympathy towards pakistans wants freedom.
I would like to tell you that i also belongs to kasmir valley and i am proud to be an Indian.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: *yawn* the same old argument 'oh I am Kashmiri n I love India' - that means NOTHING.. since its ur word against mine. The vote of the 'majority' counts and according to the recent survey conducted in Indian Occupied Kashmir, nearly 70% respondents wanted freedom from India.. Thats enough to hold a plebiscite or referendum in the democratic world.. But unfortunately India follows its own twisted form of democracy where Kashmiris can only have democratic rights if they choose India.
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 friend, your point of way is way beyond to the ground realities.Firstly, I don't know from where you get these figures but Let us assume for the Sake of Argument there figures are correct & as per your words 'majority' counts then those people who wanted feedom from India or to merger with pakistan are not comparable to 1.15 billion people of India, saying kashmir is Integral part of India.So the point of referendum is irrelevent.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: 1.15b people are Indians 'inside' India.. Kashmiris are NOT Indians.. Referendum and plebiscite has to take place inside Kashmir.. not inside India.. Your childish understanding of how international politics and referendums/plebiscites work is laughable.. I cant laughing at this nonsense logic you just put in ur comment
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 Secondly, I know the referendum is meant to take place inside Kashmir only not in India. But friend this is India, here no govt can go against the public opinion which is loud & clear that Kashmir is integral part of India which clearly shows that your understanding of democracy is childish not mine.The no 1.15b includes patriotic kashmiri people.Do you know Indian Army have 4 Infantry Regiments form J&K (J&K Rifles,J&K light Infantry,Dogra Regiment & Ladakh Scouts),aren't they Kashmiri?
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: Kashmir is only integral part of India for 'Indians'.. no one else sees it that way.. Indians are like Germans under Hitler.. they like to keep telling themselves a lie until they start believing it as the truth.. Out of the FOUR infantry regiments from J&K, how many Muslim soldiers are there? Hardly any! Its a HINDU army of occupation boasting their guns over Muslim sentiment of freedom from Hindu Raj. Keep telling urself Kashmir is integral part, its a bollywood drama u live in
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 You didn't get kashmir,your no issue is resolved yet & more issues has been arrising. If Indians are like Hitler then you Pakistanis are like an 'Ostrich' burying
their heads in ground you are simply neglecting the needs of your people which wants peace and economic development.For your information the no of muslim soldiers is only 3% in Indian Army but well above the no of hindus & sikhs in Pakistani Army.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: Pakistan does not beat its chest about being 'secular'.. so dont compare a secular country with one that is not.. This is the typical defeatist Indian mindset.. when cannot defend something, try to show that somehow two wrongs make a right.. The way Maoists are enjoying taking over large swathes of Indian territory & how Kashmir is imploding goes to show WHO exactly has been burying their heads in the ground & pretending 'all is well' in 'shining India'
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 I don't think those who kill innocent people are Muslims or Hindu by any means. In my opinion there are only two kinds of people exists in world 'Good' and 'Evil'. You cannot judge the Ideology of any person by his religion but you can judge it by his perception. Your perception is very clear that you think all Indians are Evil and enemies of muslims. The mindset of Indian and Pakistani people are more or less are same the only differece is " that We Live to Live & You Live to Survive".
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: On the contrary, I've dated Indian girls in the past.. one of the benefits of living for sometime in North America.. You continue to express how you judge people based on 'good' and 'evil' while not by religious or national affiliation, yet people like u are quiet when pathetic Indian media labels all Pakistanis as terrorists, ur leaders do the same.. The Muslim factor looms large in this equation.. You live to subjugate others.. We live to earn our rights.
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 On the other hand Indian constitution provides special conessions and rights to minority population,so it will better to keep quite if you are not aware of things on ground. Secondly, I don't think that Indian media have higher standards but pakistani media is more or less doing same when they blame India whenever a blast took place in pakistan ane Taliban takes responsibility. On the point of subjugation, It will better that you read some History and then analyze who were subjugators.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: We know how much concessions Muslims get from the Indian state. Muslims are denied to take out even a simple bank-loan by state banks to start a business or send their kid to college. Muslims are systematically denied purchase of properties in up-scale areas of Mumbai, Delhi, etc. I dont have to remind u of the amazing report on Muslims that came out of a investigative inquiry in India in 2008 which showed that Muslims fare worse than Dalits. Dont get me started on Indian media
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 The problem is that you never look yourself before saying anyone that ' u r Ugly'. Did I need to teach you that on what basis Loans are given to anyone? The bank loans are not given on the basis of religion but the ability to return it to bank with Interest. If one Muslim is denied to give a bank loan then 10 Hindus also get denied. You people become Blind,deaf & dumb when a muslim lives in Highest Posh area In India (The President House) as a First citizen of the Country.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: Yes, u do get rejected cuz u're a Muslims.. And apparently, when u're a Muslim and India and have a stack of cash to buy an upscale house in Delhi or Mumbai, you do get refused cuz of ur religion.. I didnt make all this up.. Investigative report by INDIAN panel of experts did.. President? President is a stooge of the governing party.. Congress is well known for its P.R stunts to display 'secular' image of India.. the only thing lacking from all this symbolism is.. SUBSTANCE.
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 The freedom of worship, security & celebration are which you are mentioning the basic Rights for any religion. Did 161 million Muslims of India goes to Pakistan to perform 'SALAH' on Eid? You can't even imagine in what numbers Muslims perform their prayed on the time of Eid at Jama Masjid Delhi. So.Please don't take this discussion to anywhere else.HA....Again you are showning me your
'DOUBLE STANDARDS' on killings of Innocents by saying these killings as an assumption.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: yeh unfortunately for those 161m Muslims of India.. the only thing they have left is their ability to pray in their historic Mosques... apart from that, they dont have much of a life in Hindu-India.. I dont need to take this discussion to anywhere else.. you seem to have lost the main point of the argument loong time ago!
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 This is your fake perception my friend not the perception of Muslims of India.
You never visit India, then how can you justify your traditional Muslim Tender analysis.The main point of dicussion was the solution not the confrontation. You start all this confrontaion because in your opinion this may give you the required psychological support for your emotions towards your country. But this will not get you anywhere nither u can change the ground reality nor the history.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: *yawn* I dont need to give myself any psychological support for my emotions for my country.. I've seen first hand what India did in 1971 and in the 1990s in Karachi's sectarian violence.. I tell it how it is.. your charade of being 'friendly' sprouts from your mindset that is based on sweeping problems under the rug and pretending everything is fine when its NOT. Denial is what you are living with; denial of justice, denial of freedom, denial of admission
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 I never deny anything,as i don't belive in denial. The point of contradiction is that you r pouring Whole of India into into one bucket ( ie, anti-muslim).This is a new world my friend, I don't need to pretend anything since u have such a kind of information access.I just want to clearify you that 'why India is not giving freedom to Kashmiris', because there are people in Kashmir who doesn't want Freedom since they consider themselves as Indian (acc to Chatham house survey).
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: Wrong yet again.. If India was soo confident of having Kashmiri hearts and minds on its side, given previous Indian actions, India would hold a plebiscite in J&K tomorrow.. but the complete U-turn on Nehru's commitment to the world is evidence enough of India's fear that it will SURELY lose J&K if it decided to hold a free & fair plebiscite under international supervision.. So if u really believe Chattham House or whoever, do hold a plebiscite, the truth will be for all to see then
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 As I said earlier many times 'Plebiscite is not a Possible Scenario',neither in present nor in future. Its a matter of few years from now when whole valley will connected through Indian Railway network which helps in massive development of whole J&K region. Nehru's commitment was a thing of Past, those who live in Past can never go ahead.From last two days a massive group of traders & shopkeepers turns against the seperatarists,How long will these people throw stones with empty stomachs?
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: it is not possible cuz u r scared.. afraid of the simple fact that Kashmiris will not opt for India.. so u prefer to brush ur dirty laundry underneath the rug as a 'matter of convenience'.. strange! I thought a citizen of the world's 'largest' democracy like u would prefer justice, fairplay n freedom of expression. Past is what Present is built upon and the foundations of Future are laid.. 3yrs and counting, the stones r still there, so are the protesters & they're growing
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1HA...Typical pakistani guesture..well it is of no use in todays world.Whatever u call it,Plebiscite is a thing of Past & this will not going to happen in all ur age.Its only 3yrs for u but every kashmiri knows that it is basic summer exercise of separaterists, so we got habbit of that. Freedom of expression cannot be compromised with soverignity & Integrity.These chanting Rhymes of 'GO India' is just an moral booster for people like u & not worthy enough to take India out from Kashmir.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488 chill down ur eggs.u dont have any right to discuss kasmiriyat sitting on a cozy couch some thousans of kilometers away.simply shut up.
adilmasoodi 1 year ago
@vimal190488: Yeh apparently, for all ur arrogance the Indian establishment is shaking in their boots; knowing full well that J&k is slipping out of Indian control gradually.. the same arrogant attitude u show here towards the Kashmiri cause is the same attitude that assures that Kashmiris will never consider themselves Indian.. in ur 'high & mighty' mode of conduct to belittle my argument, u fail to realize u r axing ur own foot.. have at it.. Kashmir continues to slip out of ur grasp.
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 I'll not deny these allegations because these things still exists in India. You are talking about Rajinder Sachar committee report. We have no hesitation to accept this because if we don't accept our wrong doings then how will it can be rectified? That is why we make this report in order to give justice to our Muslim brothers.Did Rajinder Sachar is a Muslim? NO, because majority of Indian Hindus have sympathy with Muslims Unfortunatly, You don't have this kind perception.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: Apparently, the majority of Indians and their politicians did not 'accept' the Sachar Committee report.. they denounced it as 'appeasement' to Muslims.. Unfortunately your thinking patterns are deluded since you seem to be making assertion after assertion that is NOT backed up by facts.
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 HA....Did you know the meaning of 'Majority' ? Majority runs govt and its the congress govt which starts all this. Then your point of 'Majority politicians, is just an baseless. Did you ever heard such kind of report on minority Regenration? My thinking pattern is Rational my friend but since you r filled with hatered against Indians then you can't think like a Rational .
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: 'majority' meant majority population in India.. the same majority population that will not support peace with Pakistan on the basis of mutual equality and letting Kashmiris decide their own fate without Indian guns to keep them in check.. The same Indians are inherently enemies of the region.. and of Muslims.. whether you admit it or not.. So, start being rational.. until u solve core issues, other gestures are meaningless.
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 As an Indian, I know what 'Majority' literally means. The majority of Hindus have no problems with Muslims since they r living with them from 1000 years from now.
Those who never consider them as their part r the people of extremist Ideology & there are many people exists of similar Ideology with diff religion in Pakistan. Secondly, the creation of 'Pakistan' irrigates the Ideology of these extremists,Since they considerd it as not a division of Land but the 'Division of Mother India'.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: The only reason Indians a.k.a Hindus live in peace with Muslims of India is cuz the Muslims live under the heel of their shoes.. a community with no real political voice, no real representation, etc.. Whenever 'change' is in the air, a Babri Mosque is demolished, a Gujarat-style massacre is carried out to remind Muslims who the 'boss' is.. in 'great' India.. Similary the Sikhs and Christians are cleansed once every few years in India to remind them who is in charge
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 Due to Idiotic vision of people who made Pakistan these Muslims become powerless in India and Hindus of Extremist Ideology got the leathal weapon to carve their Anti Muslim perception,sInce they consider partition as the Division of 'Mother India'. Now you can sing all day 'Raag Babri' &'Raag Gujrat' but it wil not help you out to get anything neither in present nor in future. Yes, you can comment anything because u r not living in Subcontinent but this attitude will take you nowhere ?
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: *yawn* yeh due to idiotic arrogance of Congress.. if Congress had accepted the Cabinet Mission Plan, u'd still have ur united India. Anyways, fact of the matter is, today Hindu-extremists have more power than you think, the RSS, VHP, ShivSena, BajrangDal, AbhinavBharat, all have massive grass roots pool of recruits for their cleansing of non-Hindus that they carry out every few yrs.. the rest of the 'moderate' Indians r too busy with bollywood n buying a Gucci or LV handbag to care
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 Wow .... Now u r telling me about the powers of RSS & VHP. You forget my friend, this is India not Pakistan.These groups are the topics of every pakistani discussion program but instead of wasting whole ur time on these ,if u just contribute half of your time to concentrate on Jihadi groups in pakistan then it would be a total different scenario today for pakistan.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: No Jihadi group in Pakistan kills thousands of non-Muslim Pakistanis once every few years as a ritual or demolishes historical places of worship of non-Muslims.. but apparently, in India, its an annual sport for RSS, VHP, ShivSena bhakts & goons
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 Thirdly, internationally no one is backing these seperatorists except Pakistan ( The Zero credibility Nation). So, they cant implement the UN resolutions as no one is with them internationally nor they are powerfull enough economically & militarily. Still thinking that Kashmir will be a independent nation one day....then take a big Yawn & Have a Sweet Dream of Independent Kashmir.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: Many states back Kashmiris not just Pakistan. Like I said, ur patriotism cant change facts or ground realities. You can continue to live inside your little bubble of Indian-ness. it works well for Kashmir cuz while u sleep in ur obliviousness. J&K continues to slip out of Indian hands underneath ur noses. As I said before, Kashmiris dont need any foreign help, whether from Pakistan or anyone else.. If India truly is a democracy, it will eventually lose to Kashmiri people's power
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 Friend,Unfortunately u r giving your opinion sitting other side of world. I am a resident of kashmir living in jammu city. So i know the ground realities better than you. It will be childish to go for referendum on behalf of 5 districts of kashmir valley. The majority kashmiri people are not in favour of independence (which you will never accept),they want development, peace and withdrawal of troops so that they can live their life comfortably.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: Suddenly every Indian starts saying, 'I am sitting in Jammu' when there is no other point left to defend their argument.. i dont have to believe you.. I have international surveys, opinion polls that are NOT tainted by pro-Indian patriotic sentiment of ppl like urself.. I dont have to live in Kashmir to know what goes on.. thousands of videos exist of Black flags and Pakistani flags flying on kashmiri houses on India's independence day.. that is the ugly truth you cannot hide from
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 Thirdly ,you are not complete aware of history. It was the 'Stupidity of Pakistani admn' due to which Kashmir fell into hands of India.This in not my word but it is the word of Rtd. Air Marshall Asghar Khan of your Air Force.At that time Maharaja choose India because your people attacked Kashmir instead of negotiating with maharaja. Which clearly shows that you people not learned from your mistakes. Now keep say that Kashmir will be Independent one day because u r living in imagination.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: Rules of partition dictate that the wishes of the inhabitants of princely states shall trump all other factors.. Maharaja's decision counts for zilch.. an alleged document he signed in secrecy which so far remains hidden.. Dont worry.. you keep saying that Kashmir is 'integral' part.. 63yrs and counting.. anti-India protests are only getting louder & stronger.. Times are changing.. even pro-Indian Kashmiris sitting in Delhi are writing about J&K slipping out of Indian hands!
mystz1 1 year ago
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vimal190488 1 year ago
@mystz1 Friend , I have lot to say & i don't need to defend my argument because i am
giving my opinion on the basis ground realities. Your Kashmir is confined Around the houses of separaterists and your opinion is on the based of video tubes way beyond the ground realities and reality is that Kashmir is well beyond your imagination.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: *yawn* you have nothing to say other than ill-informed nonsense based on your patriotic fervor of some self-imagined sense of entitlement of being handed J&K.. thousands of documentaries exist on the plight of J&K and its inhabitants who want nothing to do with India.. but ofcourse, an errant ignorant patriotic Indian will keep denyin till its too late to matter.
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 Due to this perception only you are not been able to stand on your own feet yet . You always neglect the needs of poor people of your country and serve weapons in their plates instead of food. I don't need to go further because I think you must quite aware of these things, If u r not then it is very unfortunate for your nation. Intead of blaming India if you starts to analysing yourself then half of problems will automatically get solved. But unfortunatly you r not in mood to do so.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: The same can be said about you.. 700m Indians live on under $2 a a day.. malnutrition is worse than in sub-Saharan Africa.. yet India has resources to fund an occupation army of 700000+ in J&K to enforce a gradual landgrab and denial of rights to those who want to do away with Indian hegemony.. The Chinese figured it out in time in 1962, kicked Indians out of their territory.. Thats the only way you learn to respect others.
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 Ha.........The situation is even worse in your country,the rate of people below poverty line is increasing in Pakistan while in India it decreased to 10% from 2001. The Indian Defence budget is only 2 % of GDP on the other hand Pakistan spend 3-4 % of GDP on defence.These facts are clear to show that who is snatching food from poor.What ever you call J&K, occupied territory or landgrab or anything, the fact is that you have to accept the truth that J&K is an Indian territory.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: Pakistan is in a state of war.. sucked in by WoT in Afg.. India is NOT in a state of war.. Perhaps it would serve u better to go figure out the economics of war.. Pakistan is battling for its survival from suicide bombers.. not India.. the inhabitants of J&K dont accept their land as 'Indian' territory.. why should I? Your denial works well to add fuel to the fire of secession in J&K.. have at it
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 But shouts whenever this kind of incidents takes place. You pretend yourself As the biggest Tender of Muslims , But did you ever thaught that what did you give to Muslims? You gave them a 'Failed State' where there is no security of life, no food to eat & no Education for children. I am not justifying Gujrat & Babri demolition because we don't live in DENIAL & we don't believe in burryng Heads into ground like you people. Those who kill innocents are not Humans by any means.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: Apparently, the only people who love to talk abt Pakistan as a failed state are 'Indians'.. fed by their insecurities that such a 'failed' state is able to have nuclear weapons.. dumb-founded by the fact that try as u may n want as u may, Pakistan exists and even in such harsh times such as the past few years.. carries on.. a state whose will to fight the odds is beyond the understanding of Indians.. but ofcourse how would u know what a failed state is? Go tour Somalia or Zimbabwe
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 HAHA..............lol. You r trying to say that you 'Failed-State Index' is 'Fake' ? HA......A Big round of applause for you. Again blaming India for your Failiure. A Traditional Pakistani Denial. Well Friend, this is Rediculous. Did you ever think how do you reach to such a 'Harsh Times'? If No, then it is very unfortunate for your country. These nuclear weapons will not give food, clothing & shelter to the poor people of your country.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: Again, go read what the people who publish the so-called 'Failed State Index' say.. the main reason Pakistan exists in that list is cuz of WoT and the havoc it has wrecked on Pakistan.. Exactly! Go tell your fellow Indians... sending Indians to the moon and building nuclear submarines will NOT feed the 500m malnourished Indians... Recent report published has given India the title of having the MOST hungry-mouths in the world.. So much for 'double-standards'!
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 Can you explain how you indulge in this 'WoT'? Did India brings you in this 'WoT'? Did India suggest you to feed those monsters ? We have other things to do my friend rather then taking on your nation. Yes, both things are correct about India we are going to send Indian on Moon and we have more than 500m hungry mouths as well. But atleast we have one positive thing,Unfortunatly U have only Hungry Mouths & struggle for own survival.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: American brought WoT to Pakistan.. And apparently, if u havent read ur morning paper, Indian state's integrity is seriously challenged by the Maoists/Naxalites as admitted by your Prime Minister.. step out of ur little comfy bubble of denial for a change.
mystz1 1 year ago
@mystz1 Friend, 'You can't clap with one Hand'.Pakistan always seeks for weapons & money from America to extend Jihad in Kashmir,Since the 'Tap' of Jihadis was closed by Musharraf in 2004 then these Jihadi Org becomes the enemy of Pakistani state & the result of 'Digging the Pit' for India is in front of u now. On the point of Maoists, first u need to get aware the Ideology of 'Mao Tse Sung'. Maoists are not Terrorists,their Ideology is againsts the Govt policies not against the India.
vimal190488 1 year ago
@vimal190488: Apparently the contradictory tone in Indian politics is there for all to witness.. one day Defence Ministry of India announces that there is NO infiltration from Pakistan.. the next day, Indian Army's HQ announces, infiltration is at its worst.. India is digging its own 'pit', others need not do much.. As for Maoists, go & tell the destitute villagers in India's 23 of 29 states where Maoists garner grass-roots level support.. but I guess for u, they're all 'terrorists'.. hahah
mystz1 1 year ago