lol it's just an expression. it is said when you start off watching videos that you searched for, then suddenly you find yourself watching videos of a totally different topic. i wouldn't remember what I was watching, but it led me here.
John 5:24 "whoever hears my words and believes Him who sent me HAS eternal life. He WILL NOT BE JUDGED but HAS ALREADY crossed from death to life eternal".
@lebo2196 Mohamed admired he had to repent. Jesus was sinless, virgin born, and did miracles, Mohammed did none of these. Jesus even created a bird from clay to demonstrate Hes the creator in the quran. By transferring our trust from what we do/our self righteousness to what He has done for us/His perfect righteousness this is how we can truly be put right with God and know for sure were going to heaven when we die BEFORE we get there.
@lebo2196 if God is perfect then everything about Him is perfect, including the standard He judges us with after we die. If His standard to get into heaven is perfection then to follow the scheme of Islam to trust and friend on what you do as the basis to get in heaven is futile and self defeating. Since only Isa lived the perfect life in our place which w couldn't live+ died to pay the debt our sins deserve, only He as the God-man can offerus the perfection we need to get into heaven.
But what I'm beginning to think is that you KNOW when your ready to die, when your going to be in a good place when you die, this week and last week I have just been perfectly fine to die at any time, I don't know how to explain it, I'm not depressed or anything, it's just that I know that I'm right with God, and that whenever I do happen to die I will be in a good position to be judged.
From what I've experienced this week and last week, (I've been constantly learning new amazing things every single week for several months now, I don't know how other then God has blessed me with an abundance of knowledge and wisdom).
I am a muslim and this video is true in regards to the fact that we will be judged after death, and Jesus did warn us of this. He warned us to believe in one God and only worship him, so that when we do die, God will be happy with us. Unfortunately most Christians have forgot this, and the message has been changed. Islam is the last true message remaining. There is only one God and we shall worship none but He.
I really cannot agree with a video that portrays facts and then just jumps right past them to make an unsubstantiated conclusion. Before jumping to the Conclusion that Jesus is the answer please research:
1. Who wrote the New Testament?
2. Is there any record of Jesus other than the new Testament?
3. Is there any evidence of the existence of a man called Jesus at all?
If you do actually look into this from a standpoint of reason then there is NO proof of his existence. Logic vs faith =Logic ftw
@corporatematt - Thanks for your thoughtful comment regarding "Jumping to conclusions."
Ironically, you've jumped to the conclusion that I've NOT researched NT authorship, extra-biblical sources, etc.
You're probably aware of written eyewitness testimony, extra-biblical sources, and the explosive social movement that has spread back and forth across the globe for 2,000 years.
But I'm not aware of any serious argument by any professional historian re: Jesus' nonexistence. Help me out.
@Zangomatic - There are many different scholars of Paleography that have documentation concerning the authenticity of the new testament. I would suggest Misquoting Jesus by Bart Ehrman as a good read on the subject. As far as I know there is only one mention of Jesus outside of the new testament (Josephus). As you mention "sources" could you let me know what they are?
re: "Misquoting Jesus" - Great book...if you're a skeptic looking for reasons to not believe and you've decided the bible is full of myths. David Wallace's review 'The Gospel According to Bart' provides another perspective and might help with objectivity and balance as you read Bart - although it may not be what tickles your ears.
BTW, Bart acknowledges, as every professional historian I know of does, that Jesus existed.
re: "Misquoting Jesus" - Great book...if you're a skeptic looking for reasons to not believe and you've decided the bible is full of myths. David Wallace's review 'The Gospel According to Bart' provides another perspective and might help with objectivity and balance as you read Bart - although it may not be what tickles your ears.
BTW, Bart acknowledges, as every professional historian I know of does, that Jesus existed.
re: "mention of Jesus outside the NT" google 'extrabiblical, non-christian witnesses to Jesus' - I find this to be a helpful overview.
The internet debate on the existence is not a debate that rages among serious professional historians. As you'll read in the article I just referenced, "We know far more about Jesus...than about any 1st or 2nd century Jewish or pagan religious teacher."
@corporatematt 1. Jesus' deciples wrote the New Testament
2. It would be of we had that kind of technology for about 2000 years ago, but we all know that we didn't
3. No, it's not there, but to be honest, it is logical, as you say, that he existed. Try to live with the thought that someone just came up with all this.
And then: I have to say that you can't try to make us Christians to stop believing in God. I'm not sayin' that you have to belive, but we who does, can do it without you complaining
@MissMariMiss 1. No they didn't. The oldest part of the new testament wasn't written until somewhere between 30-70 years after Jesus' death. They weren't written by his disciples. The closest you might get to it is Paul. Some of his letters may be authentic.. but he never met the man.
2. Yes, we did have that kind of technology. The Romans were very thorough in their writing and cataloging, as were the scribes of the time.
Btw. I am not trying to "make" you believe anything. Stating facts.
@Zangomatic Sorry maybe wasting your life is a bit strong. But would if you look into the fiction of the bible and find that it's all false would you carry on believing it? I can't understand that if someone tells you something has been proven to be fiction and you are basing your life on it you wouldn't want look into that? Promoting superstition such as this effects everyone in the world. Homosexuals not getting equal rights, none believers are persecuted, children's gentiles mutilated.
@BCollingwoodTV - You were somehow connecting this thought: "You allow yourself to believe in the bible" to this thought: "you are wasting your life." I wasn't following your reasoning.
I strongly agree "promoting superstition" has bad effects! (We just disagree on which view is superstitious.)
If after 2000 years of relentless attacks by critics, it was somehow demonstrated that the Bible is a work of fiction, I'd change my beliefs.
Admittedly, this concern doesn't keep me up nights...
@Zangomatic Ah yes my days in my days as a christian I found Mcdowell's evidence compelling yet, I then looked at the historic and archaeological evidence of Jesus and found them wanting. I always thought I had the fail safe of the bible but I challenge you to look at the accounts of the resurrection in the bible from each of the perspectives of Matthew Mark Luke and John each are different. Wrote by people that had never met anyone that had met anyone that met Jesus. Please read about Horus.
re: the "horus myth inspired the jesus myth" Yes, the copycat theory is still alive and well in some circles on the web. To consider another viewpoint, google Jesus & Horus parallels. And google Jesus a copycat savior.
re: "accounts of resurrection by NT writers differ from ea. other" - If they CONTRADICTED each other, that would be a challenge. But the fact that they DIFFER in details suggests they are authentic - google ordorise
@Zangomatic Yes I am saying that they are myths. I have and spoke with the archaeology and theology department at my university and the consensus is that the Jesus of the bible is a myth.
The resurrection stories do contradict each other! All the gospels contradict each other read the bible! It's your holy book you should read it! So the gospel writers when too the people that were there and said "ok what happened?" And they gave 4 different stories? No because they where dead for generations.
@BCollingwoodTV re: "Jesus is a myth theory" - Any specific evidence to support such a theory? Or do we just prefer it (along with the college professors...and the American Atheist's billboards...). I hardly know how to respond to such an idea - I've heard it before, but I've never heard it argued seriously by anybody.
re: "resurrection stories do contradict each other." - I'm looking forward to hearing specifics on this one. I've been looking for unresolvable contradictions - help me out.
@BCollingwoodTV The theology departments in Oxford and Cambridge would beg to differ. Yale would probably agree. An Islamic university would teach that Jesus existed but wasn't god. So choose a university to support your bias accordingly.
@Zangomatic Oh dear man. Really please read Matthew 1:1-17 Compared to Luke 3:23-28 the Genealogy of Jesus to his father Joseph (wait I thought Jesus was born of a virgin and Joseph had nothing to do with it) Resurrection: who saw it? Mark: 3 women, Matthew: 2 women, Luke: A number of women (:s), John: 1 women alone. So why would they get this wrong? You must admit that only one of these is right. Therefore, the rest or all of them are wrong. You must concede then the bible can be wrong.
re: Geneologies and women at the tomb (and don't forget the angels at the tomb: 1 or 2? standing or sitting?) - You mentioned you were familiar with McDowell - he covers these (as do Geisler, Habermas, etc).
John doesn't say that one woman went "alone" - you added that. Why? In the next verse (Jn 20:2) Mary says "We" - implying other unnamed women accompanied her.
@Zangomatic it's made up man. Read and good historical account of the time that isn't a forgery. I'm sorry I am done with this debate. You allow yourself to believe in the bible where snakes and donkeys and burning bushes can talk. People can live in big fish. The god you worship can kill entire cities, condones slavery, rape of virgins, child sacrifice, the eternal punishment of those that choose rationality and don't believe this madness that's fine but you are wasting your life.
@BCollingwoodTV - I can understand your desire to end a debate. Let's consider it over. In fact, let's assume that the Bible is a work of fiction - a collection of fairly tales for the ignorant.
How does it follow that I'm "wasting my life?" if I believe the Bible to be true? Does it also follow that if I DON'T believe the Bible that I'm NOT wasting my life?
Did Isaac Newton waste his life? How about Copernicus, Descartes, Pascal, Newton, Linnaeus, Maxwell, Mendel, Pasteur, Planck, etc?
I would point to the resurrection of Jesus Christ. (google: "evidence resurrection josh mcdowell leaderu" for a brief summary of the evidence.)
IF it is the case that Jesus overcame death and returned to life, then this would suggest that his claim to be God is supported. And if Jesus is God then his promise of life after death cannot be false or broken.
I haven't yet found convincing evidence to the contrary...
Again nice video. Just please call it post-mortem experience as life after death is a self contradictory statement. In the absence of evidence to the contrary I conclude that your first answer is correct: we all end as worms meat.
I like your term "post-mortem experience"! I guess we're currently in the pre-mortem phase of existence...
re: "In the absence of evidence to the contrary I conclude that your first answer is correct: we all end as worms meat." If I thought that there was an absence of evidence, I would draw the same conclusion.
this was a great video. well done, but i'm going to return to the atheist side of youtube.
RedSkyNord 1 week ago
Thanks for your kind words.
What's "the atheist side of youtube"?
Zangomatic 5 days ago
@Zangomatic
lol it's just an expression. it is said when you start off watching videos that you searched for, then suddenly you find yourself watching videos of a totally different topic. i wouldn't remember what I was watching, but it led me here.
RedSkyNord 5 days ago
@RedSkyNord - I watched the John Lennon Imagine video you posted.
I'd forgotten how much that song means to me. So good to listen to it again. Thanks.
Zangomatic 5 days ago
AMAZING VID!
inhalejesus 2 weeks ago
Mohammed admitted he had to repent even.
Dominick7 4 weeks ago
John 5:24 "whoever hears my words and believes Him who sent me HAS eternal life. He WILL NOT BE JUDGED but HAS ALREADY crossed from death to life eternal".
Dominick7 4 weeks ago
@lebo2196 Mohamed admired he had to repent. Jesus was sinless, virgin born, and did miracles, Mohammed did none of these. Jesus even created a bird from clay to demonstrate Hes the creator in the quran. By transferring our trust from what we do/our self righteousness to what He has done for us/His perfect righteousness this is how we can truly be put right with God and know for sure were going to heaven when we die BEFORE we get there.
Dominick7 4 weeks ago
@lebo2196 if God is perfect then everything about Him is perfect, including the standard He judges us with after we die. If His standard to get into heaven is perfection then to follow the scheme of Islam to trust and friend on what you do as the basis to get in heaven is futile and self defeating. Since only Isa lived the perfect life in our place which w couldn't live+ died to pay the debt our sins deserve, only He as the God-man can offerus the perfection we need to get into heaven.
Dominick7 4 weeks ago
But what I'm beginning to think is that you KNOW when your ready to die, when your going to be in a good place when you die, this week and last week I have just been perfectly fine to die at any time, I don't know how to explain it, I'm not depressed or anything, it's just that I know that I'm right with God, and that whenever I do happen to die I will be in a good position to be judged.
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From what I've experienced this week and last week, (I've been constantly learning new amazing things every single week for several months now, I don't know how other then God has blessed me with an abundance of knowledge and wisdom).
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thanks for your videos.. keep them coming!
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I am a muslim and this video is true in regards to the fact that we will be judged after death, and Jesus did warn us of this. He warned us to believe in one God and only worship him, so that when we do die, God will be happy with us. Unfortunately most Christians have forgot this, and the message has been changed. Islam is the last true message remaining. There is only one God and we shall worship none but He.
lebo2196 2 months ago
I really cannot agree with a video that portrays facts and then just jumps right past them to make an unsubstantiated conclusion. Before jumping to the Conclusion that Jesus is the answer please research:
1. Who wrote the New Testament?
2. Is there any record of Jesus other than the new Testament?
3. Is there any evidence of the existence of a man called Jesus at all?
If you do actually look into this from a standpoint of reason then there is NO proof of his existence. Logic vs faith =Logic ftw
corporatematt 3 months ago
@corporatematt - Thanks for your thoughtful comment regarding "Jumping to conclusions."
Ironically, you've jumped to the conclusion that I've NOT researched NT authorship, extra-biblical sources, etc.
You're probably aware of written eyewitness testimony, extra-biblical sources, and the explosive social movement that has spread back and forth across the globe for 2,000 years.
But I'm not aware of any serious argument by any professional historian re: Jesus' nonexistence. Help me out.
Zangomatic 3 months ago 8
@Zangomatic - There are many different scholars of Paleography that have documentation concerning the authenticity of the new testament. I would suggest Misquoting Jesus by Bart Ehrman as a good read on the subject. As far as I know there is only one mention of Jesus outside of the new testament (Josephus). As you mention "sources" could you let me know what they are?
corporatematt 4 days ago
re: "Misquoting Jesus" - Great book...if you're a skeptic looking for reasons to not believe and you've decided the bible is full of myths. David Wallace's review 'The Gospel According to Bart' provides another perspective and might help with objectivity and balance as you read Bart - although it may not be what tickles your ears.
BTW, Bart acknowledges, as every professional historian I know of does, that Jesus existed.
Zangomatic 4 days ago
re: "Misquoting Jesus" - Great book...if you're a skeptic looking for reasons to not believe and you've decided the bible is full of myths. David Wallace's review 'The Gospel According to Bart' provides another perspective and might help with objectivity and balance as you read Bart - although it may not be what tickles your ears.
BTW, Bart acknowledges, as every professional historian I know of does, that Jesus existed.
Zangomatic 4 days ago
re: "mention of Jesus outside the NT" google 'extrabiblical, non-christian witnesses to Jesus' - I find this to be a helpful overview.
The internet debate on the existence is not a debate that rages among serious professional historians. As you'll read in the article I just referenced, "We know far more about Jesus...than about any 1st or 2nd century Jewish or pagan religious teacher."
But it's definitely an interesting topic!
Zangomatic 4 days ago
@corporatematt 1. Jesus' deciples wrote the New Testament
2. It would be of we had that kind of technology for about 2000 years ago, but we all know that we didn't
3. No, it's not there, but to be honest, it is logical, as you say, that he existed. Try to live with the thought that someone just came up with all this.
And then: I have to say that you can't try to make us Christians to stop believing in God. I'm not sayin' that you have to belive, but we who does, can do it without you complaining
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@MissMariMiss 1. No they didn't. The oldest part of the new testament wasn't written until somewhere between 30-70 years after Jesus' death. They weren't written by his disciples. The closest you might get to it is Paul. Some of his letters may be authentic.. but he never met the man.
2. Yes, we did have that kind of technology. The Romans were very thorough in their writing and cataloging, as were the scribes of the time.
Btw. I am not trying to "make" you believe anything. Stating facts.
corporatematt 4 days ago
re: "Logic vs faith = Logic ftw"
"Logic versus faith" is an illogical comparison - it's represents a category error (like asking, "Which is better: Cabbage or Justice?")
Logic is proper reasoning - a tool for obtaining truth. Faith, on the other hand, is one's personal response to that truth.
Using LOGIC, one might conclude that Jesus is who he claimed to be. Repenting and submitting one's life to his authority would be a response of FAITH.
Zangomatic 4 days ago
@Zangomatic Sorry maybe wasting your life is a bit strong. But would if you look into the fiction of the bible and find that it's all false would you carry on believing it? I can't understand that if someone tells you something has been proven to be fiction and you are basing your life on it you wouldn't want look into that? Promoting superstition such as this effects everyone in the world. Homosexuals not getting equal rights, none believers are persecuted, children's gentiles mutilated.
BCollingwoodTV 3 months ago
@BCollingwoodTV - You were somehow connecting this thought: "You allow yourself to believe in the bible" to this thought: "you are wasting your life." I wasn't following your reasoning.
I strongly agree "promoting superstition" has bad effects! (We just disagree on which view is superstitious.)
If after 2000 years of relentless attacks by critics, it was somehow demonstrated that the Bible is a work of fiction, I'd change my beliefs.
Admittedly, this concern doesn't keep me up nights...
Zangomatic 3 months ago 3
Dang, Zang, you just keep gettin better and better!
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awesome!
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@Zangomatic Ah yes my days in my days as a christian I found Mcdowell's evidence compelling yet, I then looked at the historic and archaeological evidence of Jesus and found them wanting. I always thought I had the fail safe of the bible but I challenge you to look at the accounts of the resurrection in the bible from each of the perspectives of Matthew Mark Luke and John each are different. Wrote by people that had never met anyone that had met anyone that met Jesus. Please read about Horus.
BCollingwoodTV 3 months ago
@BCollingwoodTV
re: the "horus myth inspired the jesus myth" Yes, the copycat theory is still alive and well in some circles on the web. To consider another viewpoint, google Jesus & Horus parallels. And google Jesus a copycat savior.
re: "accounts of resurrection by NT writers differ from ea. other" - If they CONTRADICTED each other, that would be a challenge. But the fact that they DIFFER in details suggests they are authentic - google ordorise
Zangomatic 3 months ago
@Zangomatic Yes I am saying that they are myths. I have and spoke with the archaeology and theology department at my university and the consensus is that the Jesus of the bible is a myth.
The resurrection stories do contradict each other! All the gospels contradict each other read the bible! It's your holy book you should read it! So the gospel writers when too the people that were there and said "ok what happened?" And they gave 4 different stories? No because they where dead for generations.
BCollingwoodTV 3 months ago
@BCollingwoodTV re: "Jesus is a myth theory" - Any specific evidence to support such a theory? Or do we just prefer it (along with the college professors...and the American Atheist's billboards...). I hardly know how to respond to such an idea - I've heard it before, but I've never heard it argued seriously by anybody.
re: "resurrection stories do contradict each other." - I'm looking forward to hearing specifics on this one. I've been looking for unresolvable contradictions - help me out.
Zangomatic 3 months ago
@BCollingwoodTV If eyewitness testimonies were all exactly the same, that would suggest collusion-not a range of honest individual perspectives.
youtu33time 2 months ago
@BCollingwoodTV The theology departments in Oxford and Cambridge would beg to differ. Yale would probably agree. An Islamic university would teach that Jesus existed but wasn't god. So choose a university to support your bias accordingly.
youtu33time 2 months ago
@Zangomatic Oh dear man. Really please read Matthew 1:1-17 Compared to Luke 3:23-28 the Genealogy of Jesus to his father Joseph (wait I thought Jesus was born of a virgin and Joseph had nothing to do with it) Resurrection: who saw it? Mark: 3 women, Matthew: 2 women, Luke: A number of women (:s), John: 1 women alone. So why would they get this wrong? You must admit that only one of these is right. Therefore, the rest or all of them are wrong. You must concede then the bible can be wrong.
BCollingwoodTV 3 months ago
@BCollingwoodTV re: "Oh dear man" ... Huh? What's that?
re: Geneologies and women at the tomb (and don't forget the angels at the tomb: 1 or 2? standing or sitting?) - You mentioned you were familiar with McDowell - he covers these (as do Geisler, Habermas, etc).
John doesn't say that one woman went "alone" - you added that. Why? In the next verse (Jn 20:2) Mary says "We" - implying other unnamed women accompanied her.
But do you really want to understand the text?
Zangomatic 3 months ago
@Zangomatic it's made up man. Read and good historical account of the time that isn't a forgery. I'm sorry I am done with this debate. You allow yourself to believe in the bible where snakes and donkeys and burning bushes can talk. People can live in big fish. The god you worship can kill entire cities, condones slavery, rape of virgins, child sacrifice, the eternal punishment of those that choose rationality and don't believe this madness that's fine but you are wasting your life.
BCollingwoodTV 3 months ago
@BCollingwoodTV - I can understand your desire to end a debate. Let's consider it over. In fact, let's assume that the Bible is a work of fiction - a collection of fairly tales for the ignorant.
How does it follow that I'm "wasting my life?" if I believe the Bible to be true? Does it also follow that if I DON'T believe the Bible that I'm NOT wasting my life?
Did Isaac Newton waste his life? How about Copernicus, Descartes, Pascal, Newton, Linnaeus, Maxwell, Mendel, Pasteur, Planck, etc?
Zangomatic 3 months ago
@Zangomatic yeah why I like it too. Love the optimism. So what evidence do you have that there is such thing as post-mortem experience?
BCollingwoodTV 3 months ago
@BCollingwoodTV re: Evidence of life after death...
I would point to the resurrection of Jesus Christ. (google: "evidence resurrection josh mcdowell leaderu" for a brief summary of the evidence.)
IF it is the case that Jesus overcame death and returned to life, then this would suggest that his claim to be God is supported. And if Jesus is God then his promise of life after death cannot be false or broken.
I haven't yet found convincing evidence to the contrary...
Zangomatic 3 months ago
Again nice video. Just please call it post-mortem experience as life after death is a self contradictory statement. In the absence of evidence to the contrary I conclude that your first answer is correct: we all end as worms meat.
BCollingwoodTV 3 months ago
@BCollingwoodTV - Thanks for the thoughtful comments.
I like your term "post-mortem experience"! I guess we're currently in the pre-mortem phase of existence...
re: "In the absence of evidence to the contrary I conclude that your first answer is correct: we all end as worms meat." If I thought that there was an absence of evidence, I would draw the same conclusion.
I appreciate your thoughts, BCollingwoodTV.
Zangomatic 3 months ago
bro, again a great work, thnx also 2 Cornelia. :) +
ssuuddoo 4 months ago