This totally sucks eggs (a dutch saying for something that is real bad)! If you want to see an example of a real mass, see my account. Several Tridentine Masses from the Agneskerk, Amsterdam the Netherlands FSSP, in full communion with the Holy See and the local bishop, who gave this church to the FSSP.
Father, Could you at least make sure the music is on Key. Better not to have music if it going to be done poorly. I am not trying to be offensive, just truthful.
Father! I find myself in a precarious position because I agree with Karpov89's comment but my heart goes out to szqsk8 and I understand him fully. Why can there not be a provision for both of them when it comes to the sacred Liturgy. The old Rite was a special blessing to millions of Christians committed to our Lord Jesus. For many the New Rite is not an improvement and certainly fewer attend it. Of course the most important thing is a proper relationship with our Lord and I know you love Him.
I feel I must add I do not hope the mass is like this every Sunday, but on occassion I think it is just fine. It can not per se be non Catholic with modern music. About the Novus Ordo I think it is a little sad that the mass almost always is celebrated versus populum and that the communion often not is received kneeling and directly in the mouth although it is allowed.
Remember Christians, the will of God is no Catholic, Protestant,Orthodox, Penticostal, Adventist, JW, Etc. NO DIVISION, Only Christians, holy, helping and sharing instead of buying and selling.
"That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." (John 17:9-21)
Another guitar mass? I can't stand it any more!!! This is one of the biggest reasons I don't attend Mass any more. I have tried many a church but I want what I grew up with - incense, holy water, a choir and organ, etc. Not this jamboree stuff!
The majority of Catholics haven't heard real Roman Catholic music in so long they don't know what what they are fighting for because they don't know what's been missing.
The parish needs to use it's resources to invest in new members so the parish can grow long term and retain the members it has. POOR music like this damages the parish in every way and will only wilt in the future. INVEST today to grow tomorrow. INVEST in a pipe organ. Oh and some Latin free of charge to go along with it would be a bonus!
Its really quite interesting how very well meaning and good people become so attached to guitars and folksy music at Holy Mass, and will fight vehemently for it. Why for is this?
I can see both sides of the guitar thing. I personally just don't think the structure of the mass is really meant for that style of music, so it comes off sounding like we are trying, desperately and unsuccessfully, to be evangelicals...but thats a matter of aesthetic taste.
I feel like its a matter for the priests and bishops to decide about their own parishes and dioceses. Anyone that says they won't go to mass because they don't like the music is thinking of mass the wrong way.
Too bad you are not in attendance at these services. The people sing at the top of their voices! The sound bites only reflect the contemporary choir. The members of this choir have been serving our Lord for over four decades. All we ask is that people who want to judge, read the Bible.
Novus Ordo = the worst thing to ever happen to the Roman Catholic Church.
AnthonyBertolina 6 months ago
This totally sucks eggs (a dutch saying for something that is real bad)! If you want to see an example of a real mass, see my account. Several Tridentine Masses from the Agneskerk, Amsterdam the Netherlands FSSP, in full communion with the Holy See and the local bishop, who gave this church to the FSSP.
AndreasAntoniusMaria 1 year ago
Anathema sit.
WeepingStellaMaris 1 year ago
Father, Could you at least make sure the music is on Key. Better not to have music if it going to be done poorly. I am not trying to be offensive, just truthful.
srdb2331 1 year ago
Father! I find myself in a precarious position because I agree with Karpov89's comment but my heart goes out to szqsk8 and I understand him fully. Why can there not be a provision for both of them when it comes to the sacred Liturgy. The old Rite was a special blessing to millions of Christians committed to our Lord Jesus. For many the New Rite is not an improvement and certainly fewer attend it. Of course the most important thing is a proper relationship with our Lord and I know you love Him.
frbjoern 1 year ago
I feel I must add I do not hope the mass is like this every Sunday, but on occassion I think it is just fine. It can not per se be non Catholic with modern music. About the Novus Ordo I think it is a little sad that the mass almost always is celebrated versus populum and that the communion often not is received kneeling and directly in the mouth although it is allowed.
karpov89 1 year ago
Greetings Father Jeffrey! I do really enjoy your mass. Nothing wrong at all with modern music with guitars. Pax et bonum!
karpov89 2 years ago
@NolePaul2006 For some reason, I couldn't help reading your comment as "Whether the music is gay guitar, organ..."
LOL!!! (sorry)
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conceil8 2 years ago
Another guitar mass? I can't stand it any more!!! This is one of the biggest reasons I don't attend Mass any more. I have tried many a church but I want what I grew up with - incense, holy water, a choir and organ, etc. Not this jamboree stuff!
szqsk8 2 years ago
Try to find the traditional latin Mass in your area.
162ALAN162 2 years ago
The majority of Catholics haven't heard real Roman Catholic music in so long they don't know what what they are fighting for because they don't know what's been missing.
GymGuy817JasonEuless 2 years ago
The parish needs to use it's resources to invest in new members so the parish can grow long term and retain the members it has. POOR music like this damages the parish in every way and will only wilt in the future. INVEST today to grow tomorrow. INVEST in a pipe organ. Oh and some Latin free of charge to go along with it would be a bonus!
GymGuy817JasonEuless 2 years ago 2
Its really quite interesting how very well meaning and good people become so attached to guitars and folksy music at Holy Mass, and will fight vehemently for it. Why for is this?
DustBallBigD 2 years ago 2
Look here.
This is NOT a Lutheran service - this is a Catholic Mass.
Lutheran services are truthful, while this is nothing but a work - righteousness Mass...............this i Catholic through and through.
Sorry, but there is work - righteousness error in here - and this priest is another example of following the pope, who is a man.
KAMIKAZR 2 years ago
Uhhh... we all know the pope is a dude.
CBCadet02 2 years ago 2
As a Catholic, if I see one more guitar Mass I'm going to puke. Give me the organ, incense and holy water.
GymGuy817JasonEuless 2 years ago
The parish is going to use what resources they have. The Mass is about God, not instrument preference.
CBCadet02 2 years ago
Nice lutheran service! WTG!!!
wjweigand 3 years ago
It's a Catholic Mass.
GPhil72 2 years ago
Its the 3rd Sunday in Lent (as indicated by the rose vestments) not 4th, the music is boring and banal..
kevinmatthewlee 3 years ago
It is the 3rd Sunday of Advent that has rose clothes and the 4th sunday of lent. I looked it up on google. Good luck and don't forget to duck :)
madmysticwarrior 3 years ago
Ugh, that's not church mass, that's a pseudo rock concert, where's the ORGAN??
lostnyc2 3 years ago
Oooh, points added for rose vestments, points deducted for them being ugly.
lockerby 3 years ago
I'm not saying the guitars are bad or wrong, but Mass shouldn't be a concert. I actually go to the Mass whenever they use the guitars.
benotdismayed 4 years ago
I can see both sides of the guitar thing. I personally just don't think the structure of the mass is really meant for that style of music, so it comes off sounding like we are trying, desperately and unsuccessfully, to be evangelicals...but thats a matter of aesthetic taste.
I feel like its a matter for the priests and bishops to decide about their own parishes and dioceses. Anyone that says they won't go to mass because they don't like the music is thinking of mass the wrong way.
TrentonZero 3 years ago
Too bad you are not in attendance at these services. The people sing at the top of their voices! The sound bites only reflect the contemporary choir. The members of this choir have been serving our Lord for over four decades. All we ask is that people who want to judge, read the Bible.
TJPOP2007 3 years ago 2
Its guitars like that which draw some people to Mass and I can't blame them.
madmysticwarrior 4 years ago
It's guitars like that which drive people away from Mass, and I don't necessarily blame them.
benotdismayed 4 years ago
I disagree. Although I do not go to the liturgy for the music, I very much prefer guitars, as it makes Jesus feel much closer to me.
DBD1787 3 years ago