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  • Hoffenheim08, this is the only thing I will say to a disgusting p.o.s. like yourself but here it is: get a life. Quit spending nearly all your time posting rude, awful comments and picking fights for no reason. And by the way, Steffi Graf is the very definition of overrated.

  • C'mon Homohoffie, please post as GrafGirl!!!!!!!! I think it is so cute when you turn into a woman!

  • Insult me? How? As a girl this time sissy?

  • Yes you did, Sissy! THREE TIMES loser, on new years eve, homohoffie! You are clearly in love with me, but I don't feel the same way, my gay Kraut......lol, lol, lol,......

  • @artisking1

    Why would I e-mail you when I can insult you publicly here on YouTube, faggie boy?

  • Jesus, tennis fans must be the most obsessed sad cases going...........it gets so personal with this sport LMFAO

  • que buen nivel de tenis femenino por aquellos años.. ahora es pura fuerza y modelaje!!!

  • I don't know who is the *bestest* tennis player ever, but martina definitely had the most aesthetic play ever.

  • @Meskiagkasher

    Just watch the first 15 seconds of this video and then say that a again - with a straight face ...

  • @Hoffenheim08 I do say that again.

  • Awesome to see Martina in action. An old woman with an out of date playing style showing time and again that she can still play at the highest level. And despite the age difference their head to head remains at 9-9.

    She is simply the best player that ever lived imo.

  • @alin1975

    Despite the age difference Steffi is 10-1 against Capriati.

  • @Hoffenheim08

    Lol :D

    Whats up Hoff? Tired of arguing on one video, so you move to another?

    Do you really think good 'ol don't-bogart-that-joint-my-fri­end-Jennifer-Capriati is a viable player to throw in with the likes of Martina and Steffi? You know... with her 14 singles titles :)

    Hey Hoff, are you male or female?

  • @alin1975

    I'm posting in about a million videos each year. So sorry if I have overlooked an argument of yours somewhere.

    But wait - since when do you present any ARGUMENTS??

  • @Hoffenheim08

    Every argument we ever had more or less took the same format. You come out with some crap stats, I give you some counter facts, you make one or two more attempts to promote your little darling, and when that doesnt work you fuck off.

    The funny thing is you dont learn from it. You just ignore what you dont like and look for another opportunity to start over.

    You should seriously consider getting help.

  • @alin1975

    Why would I need help when you never come up with relevant "counter facts" which might put my stats into question?

  • @Hoffenheim08

    lol, I pulverised you in every discussion we had.

    But nonetheless, I meant mental help.  You honestly think its normal to sit on every Graf video and try to start an argument with anyone that doesn't share your point of view?

  • @alin1975

    It is a lot of fun to annoy Navratilova, Seles or Williams fans.

    Most of them are lower-class US citizens who simply can't stand that a German is GOAT plus more beautiful and more hetereosexual than those gals.

  • @Hoffenheim08

    YOU SOUND VERY UPSET, my little Fraulein!

    Just calm down, it's just a game!

  • @artisking1

    Oh my god, this fag again ...

  • @Hoffenheim08

    Calm down Sissy Fraulein!

    LOL, LOL, LOL.......

  • @alin1975

    He is male, but has 10 different screen names. Really, really sad. Those include McClernard (1 and 2, sadly....), Zephyr, fishnet, GrafGirl, and the list goes on and on and on.

  • @artisking1

    Ah, thanks for the info :)

    I have only had the "pleasure" of dealing with the Hoff...

    Too bad though. I would have cut him some slack if he was a hot chick :D

  • @alin1975

    No, sorry. But he does cross dress as Steffi Graf and perform in German drag clubs. If you ever have to travel to Germany on business and get totally fucked up drunk, you can go see him perform.

    On second thought, you would probably want to skip that......

  • @artisking1

    Hahaha :D

    No, no, I will be sure to check that out next time I am in Germany :)

  • @artisking1

    LOL, "aiien 1975 " travelling on business"!

    That was a good one!!!!

  • @Hoffenheim08

    No problem, and thanks, Sissy!

    PS ....Are you performing as Steffi tonight?

  • @alin1975

    Keep your wet lesbian dreams for yourself, please.

  • @artisking1

    Don't forget that Graf was a shadow of her former self in 1992 and Seles - even at her peak - was not one of the strongest #1 in women's tennis history.

    Graf of 88/89 took (a younger) Navratilova to the woodshed again and again and again.

  • @Hoffenheim08 That's a bit exaggerated. Graf's Tennis was improving again in 1992 after two weak years (1990/1991) and she played some very decent tennis in 1992. Think of the epic French Open Final, the Fed Cup win (especially her match in the final against Sanchez) and the amazing Wimbledon Final where she trashed Monica, one of the best matches of her career IMO.

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  • @artisking1 It wasn't at the same tournament.In Pan Pacific Open in Tokyo Martina won with Stefii 4:6,6:3,6:3(semifinal),then in final Gaz de France in Paris won with Monica 6:3,4:6,7:6

  • @uzytkownik1971

    Still, the only player at 35 to beat #1 and # 2, in a span of a few weeks. Graf and Seles were retired by 30, and there is no way Graf or Seles at 35 could compete with the Williams sisters. And in this match, Graf gets lucky when Martina pulls up lame.

  • @artisking1 Steffi Graf GOAT Steffi Graf GOAT Steffi Graf GOAT Steffi Graf GOAT Steffi Graf GOAT Steffi Graf GOAT Steffi Graf GOAT Steffi Graf GOAT Steffi Graf GOAT Steffi Graf GOAT Steffi Graf GOAT Steffi Graf GOAT Steffi Graf GOAT Steffi Graf GOAT Steffi Graf GOAT Steffi Graf GOAT Steffi Graf GOAT Steffi Graf GOAT... Accept the fact and get on with your "life" You lovesick Seles fan, lol lol lol

  • @tenniscollector steffi isnt the goat martina is, steffi even admited martina was the goat, and before you say anything i am a graf fan. youve got to take the years seles was off tour.

  • @idontsignin Yeah Steffi should give up her trophies in the period between 1993-1995 U.S. Open and prizemoney and give to Monica !!!

  • @tenniscollector i never said anything about giving her trophies up

  • @idontsignin My friend, It's sarcasim on my part. Well I should add that my GOAT comments was aimed at annoying artisking - an American Seles retard who totally loathes Graf and regularly posts stupid comments about her on YT . LOL Actually I'm more Chris Evert fan.

  • @tenniscollector

    yes, of course my silly asian nitwit......are you still posting about me roberta?......wow, you must be on love with me.......

  • @artisking1 Hahahaha it took 4 weeks to reply.  What a retard! Hahahahahahahaha

  • @tenniscollector

    You were too much of a Coward to post directly to me....so how would i have known?

    LOL, LOL, LOl........do us all a favor, if you want to post write about me, have the courage to do it directly to me, and not other screen names......

    Loser. LOL.

  • @artisking1 You really a retard aren't you. Re-read that post once more. It was a response to someone.

  • @tenniscollector

    Poor Sad nitwit. I have hurt your feelings so badly you keep posting about me to anyone who will listen....i knd of feel sorry for you......

    lol,lol,lol.......

  • @artisking1 yeah right whatever gives you mental security. Anything else nitwit lol lol lol

  • @tenniscollector

    thanks, dummy!

  • @artisking1 I completely agree Martina Navratilova was the best tennis player ever!!!I only wanted to give correct facts of matches you've mentioned and as you surely know Navratilova's victory over Seles was noticed in Guinness book as she was the eldest player to beat current number one.

    Her incredible serve-and-volley game was beautiful and it's a pity nowadays force rules only...

  • @uzytkownik1971

    100% Agree with you and thanks for the correction......:)

  • @uzytkownik1971

    It says a lot about the relative strength of Monica Seles as a #1 player that she holds this record.

    Same as her being the #1 player with the worst slam final loss ever.

  • @uzytkownik1971

    all Navratilova fans need to listen to that, i think :

    watch?v=IrqgD2UZhgU

  • @artisking1

    Graf turned 35 in spring 2004.

    Venus lost to #30 Raymond, to #29 Kuznetsova, to #30 Sprem, to #28 Pierce, to #21 Farina Elia, to #25 Golovin, to #98 Karatancheva, to #94 Pironkova, to #96 Radwanska in 2004-06.

    Serena lost to #73 Jidkova, to #24 Farina Elia, to #26 Schiavone, to #85 Craybas, to #127 Sun, to #50 Zvonareva in 2004-06.

    You don't want to tell me a 35-year-old Steffi would have lost these journeywomen????

    Serena

  • @Hoffenheim08

    Your point is irrelevant. Graf retired at 29, losing in straight sets to Davenport at Wimbledon. Martina? She got to the final of Wimby...at 38 YEARS OLD. No comparison.

    And you are entitled to your opinion, but could you please stop posting to me under several different screen names?

    I don't have any interest in you. You're a loser.

  • @artisking1

    Graf was 35 in 2004/05.

    Those years when Venus lost to Raymond, Sprem, Farina Elia, Karatancheva and Serena to Jidkova, Farina Elia, Craybas, Sun ...

    :) :) :)

  • @Hoffenheim08

    Graf was retired by 29, ducking the competition. Martina kept going til she was 37, and wasn't afraid of anyone......

    but what could anyone expect....? Graf always cowered when she didn't have outside help, whether it be from convenient timing or a madman's knife...........

  • @artisking1

    Graf wasn't retired by 29. She played Wimbledon 1999 at 30.

    But she wasn't gay and wanted to have a family. Had she been a lesbian she would have won 25+ slams. But how would you understand ...

  • @Hoffenheim08

    nonsense....she was a coward, just like you are......Graf had her competition removed for her, because she wasn't good enough to get the job done herself.....

    and you post under multiple screen names because you are a coward with no life.......

    I see why you two are compatible. Sad thing for you is, Graf thinks you are a total loser.

    LOL, LOL, LOl......

  • @artisking1

    Graf's toughest competition was Navratilova.

    Against these Sabatinis, Novotnas, Seleses, Hingises and Sanchezes she had far, far superior head-to-head stats.

  • @Hoffenheim08

    Wrong again, Dummy! Graf lost her number one ranking to Seles, as well as 3 out of 4 slam finals......

    I know this hurts, that you are dying to ignore these heartbreaking facts, but im here to remind you, constantly, the sad reality of Graf's failures to Seles.....

    LOL.

  • @artisking1

    That's nonsense of course.

    Graf won 3 out of 6 slam finals against Seles. The 3 more prestigious ones (Wimbledon & USO).

    And 3 of 4 other slam matches.

    Plus 4 of 5 non-slam matches.

    10-5 in Graf's favour on aggregate. Comparable to Graf-Coetzer ...

  • @Hoffenheim08

    Wrong again, Sissy! Graf LOST her number one ranking, as well as three of four slam finals, to Monica Seles....facts are facts bitch.....

    Graf had three years to regain her ranking and dominance...she FAILED......Sorry, Sissy!

  • @artisking1

    In 1995-99 when both competed again Graf won 7 slams and Seles only 1. Graf won 4 of 5 matches.

    In 1997-2003 almost every hacker won a slam (Hingis, Majoli, Davenport, Capriati, Pierce), but no Seles. Although Graf was not there most of the time ...

  • @Hoffenheim08

    Everyone agrees that Graf was better AFTER the stabbing, which is humiliating to Graf.

    After all, this clearly indicates that Steffi NEEDED a tragedy like the stabbing because she wasn't good enough to Stop Seles herself.....

    In a way, Parche did Graf a major disservice. He forever relegated her to second best, the player who benefitted from a stabbing and failed to return to the top because she wasn't good enough......you Germans are such dumb cowards.

  • @artisking1

    Yes, Graf won 81 of 83 matches in the 12 months after the stabbing.

    But only 65 of 73 in 1991.

    And, not, Seles had nothing to do with it, obviously.

  • @Hoffenheim08

    That makes no sense stupid. But thanks for pointing out that Graf's record was much better AFTER Seles got stabbed......

    You just proved my point ......stupid.

  • @artisking1

    And what had the Seles stabbing to do with the fact that Graf was 65-8 win/loss in 1991 but 81-2 in the twelve months after the stabbing?

  • @Hoffenheim08

    UM, Stupid, thank you for proving my point. Gd you are very dumb. With Seles out of the game, Graf's greatest obstacle was removed, she relaxed and totally dominated......

    But before the stabbing...? Losing her umber one, easily, and 3 out of 4 slam finals......

    Sorry, Sissy, you lose again.

  • @artisking1

    And in 1991 she didn't relax, lost 8 of 73 matches - but beat Seles in 2 of 2 matches .... ?

    Yeah, that's a true "artisking" (what a gaaaay name!).

  • @Hoffenheim08

    Sissy, the resuklt is the same.....AFTER Seles was stabbed, Graf's record improved enormously.

    THANK YOU, DUmmy....you proved my point.......NBow please take that Dress off and stop prancing around like Steffi in drag......

    Sissy Fraulein......LOL........

  • @artisking1

    But what has the Seles stabbing to do with the fact that Steffi was 65-8 win/loss in 1991 but 81-2 in the twelve months after the stabbing?

    After all Graf didn't lose to Seles in 1991.

  • @Hoffenheim08

    BUT.........she did LOSE her number one ranking to Seles, and then LOST 3-out of 4 slam Finals to Seles, and Graf admitted Seles was better in early 1993, after she was dominated by Seles in the Aussie Open Final....

    so the result is the same......as STEFFI ADMITTED, Seles was better pre stabbing, and Graf was better post stabbing.....

    Sorry Sissy......

  • @artisking1

    Seles was narrowly better than Steffi pre-stabbing because Steffi was considerably worse pre-stabbing than post-stabbing.

    Graf was 65-8 win/loss in 1991 (2-0 against Seles) but 81-2 in the twelve months after the stabbing.

    81-2, hat was a level Seles never reached.

    Peak Steffi was a class of her own, peak Seles was only 2nd class.

  • @Hoffenheim08

    Narrowly Better? So you SADMIT SELES WAS BETTER? Thanks you dumb SISSY!

    LOL, LOL, LOl........you dumb fraulein! you just admitted Seles was better!

  • @artisking1

    Of course Seles was better in 1991 until the stabbing. She won more slams although Steffi led the H2H.

    But Steffi was better from 1988 to 1990 and against in 1995-99.

    10-5 H2H says it all.

  • @Hoffenheim08

    Fine with me Sissy......Seles was better pre-stabbing. Graf better post stabbing.

    Works for me, Sissy.

  • @artisking1

    Graf was better in 1988-90.

    Seles was better in 1991/92 (although Steffi was 3-1 H2H against the Serb).

    Graf was better in 1995-99.

    Works for me, faggie boy.

  • @Hoffenheim08

    This form the GERMAN SISSY COWARD who had 14 different screen names, most of them posed as WOMEN, and likes.....Women's Figure Skating!

    Give it up Sissy! You practically have a d*ck in your mouth!

    And thnaks for admitting that Seles was BETTER!

    You dumb Fraulein!

    LOL, LOL, LOl......

  • @artisking1

    Is it my fault that you prefer men's figure skating? OK, to each their own - but I prefer the girls with their short, short skirts.

    Yes, Seles was more successful than Steffi in 1991/92. Same with Navratilova in 1985/86, Sanchez in 1994 and Hingis in 1997/98.

    So what?

    Steffi has won each slam at least 4 times. Seles each slam at least zero times. Doesn't this say everything?

  • @Hoffenheim08

    PLease, SISSY.....you want to dress like those skaters! Let me ask you:

    Do you Cross Dress, do you do Drag?

    Do you dress up like Steffii Graf and Katarina Witt and twirl around in the air in your sad living room, pretending you just won a gold medal?

    Steffi won alot of GS titles, but not when Seles was number one........forget it....Graf lost EVERYTHING except Wimbledon.....

    And you know it, my delicate flower......

  • @artisking1

    Er, what is a "cross dress" or a "Drag"?

    Even in her deepest slump (when she lost tons of matches against Sabatini/Novotna) she won the two most important tournaments on this planet - Wimbledon 1991 and Wimbledon 1992.

    Plus she won 3 of 4 matches against #1 Seles.

    Say, has a # player ever had a more dismal record?

  • @Hoffenheim08

    PLEASE SISSY......your dress is too tight! When Graf "won tons of matches"?

    LOL, Sissy.....read the following and weep:

    Graf LOST the following:

    1990, 1991, 1992 US OPEN

    1991, 1992, 1993 Aussie OPEN

    1990, 1991, 1992 French Open

    1990, 1991, 1992 WTA Championships.....

    Seles? SHE WON EIGHT OF THEM, beating Graf in 3 out of 4 slam finals......

    Now, Sissy, can you post as a woman again? You are much more charming when you pretend to be a woman.

  • @artisking1

    Er, where did I pretend to be a woman?

    BTW, Seles lost far more slams than Steffi. And don't forget that Seles started to win slams exactly three weeks (!) after the Graf blackmail scandal started. Coincidence?

    Yeah, sure ....

  • @artisking1 Hohhenheim08, GrafGirl,HohenHomo has a new handle: Maolseachlainn1 . God, this guy/girl/thing is so pathetic it almost makes you feel sorry for him/her/it (almost, I say). Poor, poor Steffi. I was never a big fan,but didn't she deserve better admirers than this?! Or maybe not. After all, she DID walk on the court in Hamburg the day after the stabbing and play the final against Sanchez.Somehow that makes her guilty after the fact.

  • @assindiastignani

    Many people like me had paid tickets to watch this final. And at this point no one could imagine that Seles would go on to milk this unfortunate incident to the extremel. Well, except Mary Carillo ...

  • @Hoffenheim08

    Its when a man pretends to a woman.....LIKE YOU have been doing on Youtube, Sissy, pretending to be a female fan of Graf named, "GrafGirl"?

    Got it Sissy! LOL, LOl, LOl.......

  • @artisking1

    You seem to know a lot about homosexuals.

    Wonder why ....

    Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!­!!

  • @Hoffenheim08

    Give us all a Break SISSY!

    YOu have STUPIDLY admitted to being "Grafgirl", pretending to be a woman who loves.......WOMEN"S ICE SKATING......!

    You even posted as HoffenHOMO to GrafGirl (to YOURSELF Dummy!)....essentially talking to yourself! Do you have any idea how SAD that is?

    You are a such a Sissy! Poor Steffi....she really attracts Losers!

  • @artisking1

    Why would I pretend to love women's ice skating? All those attractive girl in their skimpy skirts ...

    But it is OK that you prefer men's ice skating - to each their own ...

  • @Hoffenheim08

    My God, Sissy....did you email me THREE times on NEW YEARS EVE?

    Don't you have anything better to do, YOU TOTAL LOSER?

    Wow, I feel really sorry for you. On New Years Eve you were thinking about me......what a loser you must be!

  • @artisking1

    Er, I didn't even e-mail you ONCE, dickhead.

    Don't let your gay fantasies carry you away ...

  • Strange... I thought Martina had switched to a black Yonex raquet before the US Open this year. I see she's playing with the white one, which she'd been playing with since mid '88.  I think this match was played in Oct. 92?

  • Great match - both playing so well. Just a few points in it. And nice to see them smiling at the net at the end when it was so competitive.

  • martina does seem somewhat injured or is she just tired? but gosh it's still a very close match. Martina would have been had she felt better.

  • It is obvious Martina was injured, She is very professional to keep playing for the crowd and tournament.

  • Why is Martina walking so slowly between points?

  • @LobOverTheBackhand Looked like she had a bit of a back problem but that said the points were pretty tough. Great match thanks for uploading

  • You are the greatest Graf fan of all time.

  • OMG, I've always wanted to see this. geeva1979, you're the best!

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