Thanks; this was very useful! My friends and I like to do old raids and we are short on healers in our little circle as well; XT-002 is one of my favorite bosses and I'm glad we have a way to fight him now without wiping.
@blackdevilb No, it's to use a poorly balance between DPS and healers to take advantage of the encounter mechanics. Making the hearth face affecting how many abilites the boss is able to do to reduse deaths. Of course any good raid group will be able to counter this other ways but when you have more DPS than you would normaly bring then this could result more stable damage incomes for the raiders and make you able to complete the encounter without all the healers you would normaly need.
/console cameraDistanceMaxFactor 5 <--- that will bring your camera distance further and is very nice for a tank to see overall views of the raid, very useful for 3D.
The place where he tankis it isnt very good since then will get adds from all four piles in each corner off the room, if you tank it at the side of the room you will only get adds from 2 piles and that makes it easier to nuke boss and not that many adds to kill
When i wrote my comment about the positioning he was unable to spawn adds from two of the piles if you tanked him at the side, but that has been fixed so now they spawn from all four of them.
if you tank him between the junk piles on the left side in 25m it will actually make those two piles unable to spawn adds so ur entire raid only needs to focus on two corners and u get more dps time on the heart
Glad to see the Ulduar vids! Highest quality and user friendliness, as per tankspot's usual =) Keep up the fine work, because we'll need you when Icecrown opens o.o
wat we found was that we were burning the heart way too fast, and the 2nd phase came too closely to each other. This caused too many adds still up after the second phase, quickly overwhelming our hunters and other range dps.
wat we do now is we dps it to about 53% after first heart phase and have all dps go on adds before returning to boss, so we get no adds in the beginning of the second heart phase and all dps burn him down.
If your raid is having trouble with healing, we found that because the Tantrum is a % of health attack and not a specific damage attack, removing all stam buffs, and using wisdom or might instead of kings greatly increased our chance of survival because they healers didn't have to heal as much because your health pool 120% would be lowered, meaning less healing to keep people alive is required.
it is... now its nerfed a bit, at our yesterday kil, we pushed the first hearth, and the second came out almost emidiatly, and whe pushed taht one too, and the whole fight was around 3 min
This is a lie it is still 100% possible to avoid the tantrum 2 groups in my guild did it on Wed yes this Wed. So either you are lying or Blizz is wrong. I doubt Blizz is wrong
Its the same voice actor as ralf from the simpsons;D theres a few famous voice actors from games/films that aslo do voices for wow bosses, wowwiki any wow boss and it will tell you the voice actor and should have clickable name so you can see other work they have done, You knew Liquid snake's voice from MgS is also a wow boss?:D
I think the action bar is Bartender4 and where he can see all the ppl wich are in the raid group is called grid, all I know, not sure if he has prat wich is an addon for the party, raid and channel chat :)
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needs to be a bit harder...so far our guild has downed all up to Mimiron, leaving General Vazax and Yogg-Saron cant wait till next weeks hard more if we get yogg down :). and yes i do agree great job blizz, just wish they did not hype it so much
On both 10 and 25 man, there is an option on all the bosses to activate the hard mode, such as killing XT's heart or pushing the big red button on mimiron
nice think ill try this strat for the guild tonight, the whole instance server crashed (sylvanas EU) was soo shitty, at least we got down leviathan but doubt we get loot :(
Thanks; this was very useful! My friends and I like to do old raids and we are short on healers in our little circle as well; XT-002 is one of my favorite bosses and I'm glad we have a way to fight him now without wiping.
operaghostandkitty 1 year ago
0:47 hit a 1337
OnAiTe 1 year ago
The shitiest guide i ever saw .. .
What about adds, debuffs,positions etc?
point of this movie is -active hero nuke heart?
low low
blackdevilb 1 year ago
@blackdevilb No, it's to use a poorly balance between DPS and healers to take advantage of the encounter mechanics. Making the hearth face affecting how many abilites the boss is able to do to reduse deaths. Of course any good raid group will be able to counter this other ways but when you have more DPS than you would normaly bring then this could result more stable damage incomes for the raiders and make you able to complete the encounter without all the healers you would normaly need.
ToxenChannel 1 year ago
hey ciderhelm what addons do you use? I like your setup very much... great video btw
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I am looking for some mods - these are good mods - is there a link to where I can get this as a compilation or something?
hemek 2 years ago
you might be the tank... BUT DAMN DO YOU HIT HARD. hit like a truck. what sort of threat are you putting out?
Ostrum 2 years ago
wel considering that he has high hits and is a verry goood tank i conclude that his threat per second is LOTS lol
jamieovcymmer 2 years ago
hi, what ui are u using for the raid squares
golden1hk 2 years ago
Think its grid
elitelineman 2 years ago
It's Grid
domiz 2 years ago
Grid.
MrMentch 2 years ago
it's called Grid
darkstar1334 2 years ago
OH YA!
Trojanmagnus 2 years ago
yep =P
fspopshovit 2 years ago
yeah
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could some one send me a mesage explaining me all boss of ulduar
AlbaMusic1996 2 years ago
/console cameraDistanceMaxFactor 5 <--- that will bring your camera distance further and is very nice for a tank to see overall views of the raid, very useful for 3D.
koolmoedee11 2 years ago 9
so hey ive never played ally, is heroism the draenie form of a horde shaman's BloodLust?
murdera1234 2 years ago 5
yes it is
RoelofReen 2 years ago 3
thank ya sir :)
murdera1234 2 years ago
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rocleinad 2 years ago
Yes, Heroism is the Bloodlust equivalent.
basintwo 2 years ago
Yep
Linguisticz 2 years ago
aye
paul45277 2 years ago
Yeah, I play with my friends who are allies and I'm horde and they keep calling it heroism.
NorbergV6 2 years ago
ally shaman spell - heroism
horde shaman spell - bloodlust.
Bloomengns 2 years ago
The place where he tankis it isnt very good since then will get adds from all four piles in each corner off the room, if you tank it at the side of the room you will only get adds from 2 piles and that makes it easier to nuke boss and not that many adds to kill
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that only works on 10 man where only those 2 piles spawn adds
on 25 all 4 piles spawn adds no matter where he is
Asdferfjg 2 years ago
its exactly the same on 25man since if you tank him where i said 2piles will be unable to spawn adds, so you are actually wrong
fonziex1 2 years ago
Actually no you cannot they will still spawn adds. his positioning was perfect.
ZaganothofArathor 2 years ago
When i wrote my comment about the positioning he was unable to spawn adds from two of the piles if you tanked him at the side, but that has been fixed so now they spawn from all four of them.
fonziex1 2 years ago
:48
1337
Popinfresh1 2 years ago
200% lol? its +90%
kungfoopandaa 2 years ago
It's an additional 100% damage, which is the same as saying 200% damage. The other commenter was not incorrect..
Ciderhelm 2 years ago 5
@Ciderhelm i absolutely love your alls videos....plz make more for the rest of existance....
seetherfan232 1 year ago
heart =200% damage probly shield slam or revenge
wowrocks286 2 years ago
Pause as 1:23 Nice Crit for a Tank XXDXD
Fallenhero14 2 years ago 4
12k, niiice
hellshot8 2 years ago 3
if you tank him between the junk piles on the left side in 25m it will actually make those two piles unable to spawn adds so ur entire raid only needs to focus on two corners and u get more dps time on the heart
kungfoopandaa 2 years ago 6
does it work on 10man?
Klemardplusturtles 2 years ago
Yep
Ell2309 2 years ago
lol at :49 he did leet dmg. btw this video helped our guild down xt-002 our first week in ulduar. thanks ciderhelm & tankspot
riseofsock 2 years ago
I chuckled when I saw the 1337 damage, lol ^^
DomoLeader13 2 years ago
Glad to see the Ulduar vids! Highest quality and user friendliness, as per tankspot's usual =) Keep up the fine work, because we'll need you when Icecrown opens o.o
donaldTfox 2 years ago 3
Can someone tell me what addon ciderhelm uses for those healthbars ?..
Cmon someone must know ;-)...
Also how to costumise them like that in case that specific addon's defaults is not like that.
I would greatly appriciate some answers on this.
I've tried for so long to find out.
Thx in advance to people who would help me out.
umom1 2 years ago
If your on about the health bar once the heart comes out . . . press V
ImDavidHONEST 2 years ago
I'd say it looks like he's using Pitbull for the bars, just removed the 3D player icon and other information that's on them by default.
And way to be an ass ImDavid.
Andrews173 2 years ago
the abilities in the boxes is called x-perl or x-pearl or something like that i believe, no idea wich addon he uses for the health bars
RoelofReen 2 years ago
wat we found was that we were burning the heart way too fast, and the 2nd phase came too closely to each other. This caused too many adds still up after the second phase, quickly overwhelming our hunters and other range dps.
wat we do now is we dps it to about 53% after first heart phase and have all dps go on adds before returning to boss, so we get no adds in the beginning of the second heart phase and all dps burn him down.
neomasterc 2 years ago
If your raid is having trouble with healing, we found that because the Tantrum is a % of health attack and not a specific damage attack, removing all stam buffs, and using wisdom or might instead of kings greatly increased our chance of survival because they healers didn't have to heal as much because your health pool 120% would be lowered, meaning less healing to keep people alive is required.
zacharyyyskeet 2 years ago
Tantrum has now been nerfed to 60% total health, its nothing to worry about now - easier than Malygos' vortex.
DaBiggerDaddy 2 years ago
It's 80% now.
NeXuzBakaneesan 2 years ago
well we tried this tactic after the nerf,...:S we were killed by the adds, ( pummelers , 9) our OT couldnt hold em..
csecskristof 2 years ago
1:23 holy shit nice crit
Deadcombat 2 years ago
100% extra damage + shield slam crit = boom
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Schynthus 2 years ago
This is now no longer possible to avoid Tantrum as of this previous Tuesday = D
smokindank831 2 years ago
it is... now its nerfed a bit, at our yesterday kil, we pushed the first hearth, and the second came out almost emidiatly, and whe pushed taht one too, and the whole fight was around 3 min
csecskristof 2 years ago
This is a lie it is still 100% possible to avoid the tantrum 2 groups in my guild did it on Wed yes this Wed. So either you are lying or Blizz is wrong. I doubt Blizz is wrong
TheArcaneSanctum 2 years ago
But what do you do with the adds? Our guild is having trouble with the adds with this strat.
Ariant2007 2 years ago
its like gluth
joachimk93 2 years ago
genious
ulfderulfte 2 years ago
lol at 0:45 he hit a 1337... leet!!
kthxbai999 2 years ago
What addons are those in the middle?
koagz 2 years ago
looks like pitbull and bartender
Spazum888 2 years ago
grid and bartender?
RipRitual 2 years ago
looks like pitbull for the healbars above bartender, grid is on the left, and recount on the bottom right
Spazum888 2 years ago
what is the name of the addon that puts the enemy/self health bar right below the cener of the screen?
inflatin 2 years ago
0:48
1337 Damage.
randothepally 2 years ago
lolololololol nice
lukefacepizza 2 years ago
gah thats some impressive dps on the heart there :O it has 1600k hp :P
GTFOIMAO 2 years ago
The heart takes extra damage. I forgot exactly how much.. Maybe 200%?
intuit13 2 years ago 2
100% extra
omen831 2 years ago
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intuit13 2 years ago
yes, it TAKES 200% damage. So you hit twice as hard when you hit the heart.
intuit13 2 years ago
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klarum 2 years ago
If the boss takes 200% damage from all sources, then it's the exact same as +100%. Maybe you should have paid attention in English class?
baakss 2 years ago
*Maths.. o_O
Shallfull 2 years ago
Which is exactly what I meant when I said the heart takes 200% damage in my first post. Someone tried to correct me. :)
ppl are such twats on these youtube comments, lol.
intuit13 2 years ago
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all those add-ons piss me off
DaftAndrew 2 years ago
what mods are those? I love the raid frames and especially the mid-screen displays of the boss HP and tank HP
bobdonda 2 years ago
those frames are pitbull i beleive
josh2alterak 2 years ago
You got shitloads of buffs, wow.
Blast3x 2 years ago
they are required to have maximum number of flask/elixers/ and food buffs to be allowed to raid
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Fucking hilarious!!
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ibitchslappedagoat 2 years ago
Loved it!!! The video was fun and it was pretty informative. Its awesome how the video is high quality!
Chick6517 2 years ago
its also good for raids that have low dps... ( oh isgh, wipe, at 3% )
csecskristof 2 years ago
Nice computer u got running, shadow details all the way up and no lag :O
sangheili333 2 years ago
0:48 1337 DAMAGE!!! :D
RoundHouseFrenzy 2 years ago
12k sheild salm at around 1:23
csecskristof 2 years ago
XT has the BEST voice ever.
wowSLIDDwow 2 years ago
stil void reaver styl, even the kick/hits and even tentrump stillez-mode :)
csecskristof 2 years ago
Its the same voice actor as ralf from the simpsons;D theres a few famous voice actors from games/films that aslo do voices for wow bosses, wowwiki any wow boss and it will tell you the voice actor and should have clickable name so you can see other work they have done, You knew Liquid snake's voice from MgS is also a wow boss?:D
blakeney806 2 years ago
yea, he is maly
rorylott 2 years ago
Michael Dorn (Worf from Star Trek TNG and DS9) does voices for a number of characters, most notably, about half the tauren NPCs in the game.
lokilokiyeah 2 years ago
WTB addon names that are used in this video...plssss
tajikistanian 2 years ago
I think the action bar is Bartender4 and where he can see all the ppl wich are in the raid group is called grid, all I know, not sure if he has prat wich is an addon for the party, raid and channel chat :)
JosephMarino 2 years ago
Love this boss, so much fun and pretty easy if you know what your doing. Good job blizz on Ulduar =DD
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needs to be a bit harder...so far our guild has downed all up to Mimiron, leaving General Vazax and Yogg-Saron cant wait till next weeks hard more if we get yogg down :). and yes i do agree great job blizz, just wish they did not hype it so much
warddo120 2 years ago
whats the song
joejoe58 2 years ago
Damn Ciderhelm, you have a SICK computer!
Futil3 2 years ago 4
HP bar is Pitbull and buff addon is Buffalo
pstavola 2 years ago
i cant find lores utube can someone link it?
roflsteaksauce 2 years ago
Lore posts his videos off Ciderhelm's page.
KoryWB 2 years ago
wow great vid
Siege890 2 years ago
0:48 do you crit 1337 :P
Deeo134 2 years ago
Haha :P
steveMASSACRE 2 years ago
is that 42056 hp
oakshall 2 years ago
Yes. Welcome to T8. Enjoy your stay.
/wink
oldschewl 2 years ago 2
What Healtyhbar addon do you use on this video?
WoWXarraKWoW 2 years ago
I was wonder is there a HARD and EASY mode on ulduar or just Heroic and Normal????
pppooopppaa 2 years ago
On both 10 and 25 man, there is an option on all the bosses to activate the hard mode, such as killing XT's heart or pushing the big red button on mimiron
Sarriesfan08 2 years ago
Just heroic and normal, but you can choose to make some bosses harder, like Sartharion with 3 dragons up.
lamapwnzors 2 years ago
Ahhh wow, that's a great strategy ...
yesterday we managed to down him in his 6 min (10man btw) enrage timer ... But it was extremly ..tight^^
With this strat. it is probably much more easy! Great
enteee 2 years ago
cider, very nice overall dps for your guild.
keep it up!
xmitsuakix 2 years ago
these bosses were supposed to be hard but there are a few bosses in naxx that are harder
even 2 out of 3 of the drakes in OS are harder
gamerZANZUS 2 years ago
It's the 2nd boss of the instance, and it's in EASY MODE. E-A-S-Y M-O-D-E.
Go beat it on hard mode before you start crying about difficulty.
HoBoRaPeS 2 years ago
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lol fuckin nerd
iomithelegend 2 years ago
on my server (alleria) nothing was working youd go in and be stuck there until they were working
x77poison77x 2 years ago
nice think ill try this strat for the guild tonight, the whole instance server crashed (sylvanas EU) was soo shitty, at least we got down leviathan but doubt we get loot :(
narutofrakis 2 years ago
Sick dps!
Knapps8UK 2 years ago
at 0:48 u crit 1337 :D
daysmovies 2 years ago
rofl he crit for 13k a little after
uberpwnage94 2 years ago
he meant that 1337 is "leet" which i thnik is pretty cool too :P
seanthesheep4 2 years ago
great video again man
kevingavin4746 2 years ago
Where is the Killing Blow?? why is the video Cut....??? Did you manage to kill him with this strategy?
Vandarus 2 years ago
my brother got server first with his guild using this strat so yes it does work.
SXXXJ90 2 years ago
Agree with Badsenseofhumour :D, You make it look so easy :)
Piropyja 2 years ago
My guild managed to do this on 10man, it will be interesting to see how 25man is. =D
PersiaShrykull 2 years ago
This is very helpfull..
Qieth 2 years ago
you make it look so simple, lol
badsenseofhumour 2 years ago