Paru polskich szlachciców się nawaliło i na kacu zdobyli Moskwę ... i wielka smuta - i święta narodowe - całe szczęście że Husarii tam na prawdę nie było bo do Pekinu byśmy doszli :)
a film ... fajne science fiction - armata ze skóry mi się podobała hehehehe
Te filmy nie zdejmujo sie w rosje . Uraina tez robi filmy nu prosto jak kazdy Lwowiak i ten ktury tam mieszkal obok 2005 zna otym ze na wshodniej ukarinie nawet ukrainskiego nie znajo i tam zdejmujo filmy na rosyjskim jezyku Odessa.
Te filmy nie zdejmujo sie w rosje . Uraina tez robi filmy nu prosto jak kazdy Lwowiak i ten ktury tam mieszkal obok 2005 zna otym ze na wshodniej ukarinie nawet ukrainskiego nie znajo i tam zdejmujo filmy na rosyjskim jezyku Odessa.
@KWIN2011 Wiem mam dziewczynę z Krymu która tylko po rusku mówi bo ją w szkole nauczyli że Ukraińskim mówią tylko "głupi ludzie" jak się jej zapytałem dlaczego ona nie mówi po ukraińsku tylko cały czas po rusku.
@xXxPaulGhostxXx Koleś masz o sobie zajebiste zdanie co? No to uważaj by ci ktoś faktycznie korepetycji z szacunku do czyichś kobiet nie dał, bo jak byś mi to nie przez internet powiedział tylko w twarz koguciku, to bym ci ryj zrył tak że by cię mamusia rodzona nie poznała. Na nocne korki to chodź ze swoim partnerem z marszów równości.
@GregorMar a ty co? Też masz o sobie zajebiste zdanie, że uważasz, że zryłbyś mi ryj? Nie, to ja tobie, mordochlaście. ,,Na nocne korki to chodź ze swoim partnerem z marszów równości.'' ty hipokryto. Ale nie bój się, nie będę chodził z twoim. Wolę kobiety. Nawet takie puszczalskie penery, jak twoja ,,kobieta'', muahahahahahah.
Ludzie wesprzyjcie tego gościa co tłumaczy temu szwedzkiemu worowi spermy i cały czas łga. Ten Greg tłumaczy mu jak krowie na rowie a tamten hujozbiet jeszcze go znieważa! Ja niestety nie znam na tyle angielskiego by to zrobić ale jeśli wy znacie to wspomóżcie! Prawda i tak zwycieży.
Polish armies following Karl X to Denmark? Karl X spent half a year in Denmark. Had conquered everything except for the Danish Capital which he had put in Siege. The Poles waited for more allies to join because alone, They wouldnt have had a chance against the Battlehardened Swedish army. How ignorant are you?
Ludzie oglądacie ten bzdurny 1612 a to bujda na resorach bo w tej walce ŻADNEJ HUSARII NIE BYŁO!!! A Ruscy walczyli nie z Polakami tylko z 8000 KOZAKÓW (to ci z Ukrainy jak by ktoś nie kontaktował) 1500 jazdy pancernej LITEWSKIEJ Z WKL!!! I 1500 PIECHOTY NIEMIECKIEJ!!! na Kremlu też było jeszcze 3000 kozaków rejestrowych. Obie strony w walka straciły po 1500 żołnieży a jeden z ruskich dowódców został ciężko ranny my zaś przegraliśmy taktycznie ale tam Polaków nie było BUJDA NA RESORACH!!!!!!
@GregorMar Wchodzę żeby obejżeć ten film a tu mi wyskakuje ten twój infantylny post. Chciałbym zauważyć, że 1612 rok to już po unii lubelskiej która połączyła litwę i polskę w jedno państwo, więc "1500 jazdy pancernej LITEWSKIEJ Z WKL" jest jednocześnie polską jazdą. Ponadto Ukraina już wcześniej została włączona do polski, więc "8000 KOZAKÓW" też było polakami.
@tiar997 Wchodzę na pocztę a tu twój infantylny post na youtube. Otóz moja kochana biedroneczko, spieszę by cię poinformować że Unia lubelska nie połączyła Polski i Litwy w jedno państwo tylko przekształciła UNIĘ PERSONALNĄ W UNIĘ REALNĄ. A Litwa miała odrębną armię, budżet i system praw. Wspólna była POLITYKA ZAGRANICZNA, dopiero konstytucja 3 maja połączyła Polskę i Litwę w jedno państwo. Wróc lepiej do podstawówki i odświerz podstawy historii lub ewentualnie zapytaj doktora google.
@tiar997 Jazda litewska NIE JEST JEDNOCZEŚNIE POLSKĄ JAZDĄ bo jest JAZDĄ LITEWSKĄ! Nie wiem skąd biorą się takie baranki które nawet przed napisaniem swojej głupotki zwyczajnie najpierw nie sprawdzą i nie poczytają czy to cho chca wystukać jest prawdziwe czy nie. Litwini to Litwini Polska to KORONA. A nazwa Rzeczypospolitej po Unii lubelskiej to Rzeczypospolita obojga narodów a nie Polska. Ukraińcy nie byli Polakami tylko Rusinami. Serio wróc i napisz coś mądrego jak przeczytasz kilka książek.
@KWIN2011 W prawdziwej historii a nie w ruskich bajkach. Taka prawda przeczytaj sobie oryginalne opisy bitwy z 17 wieku, przeczytaj jakie wojska brały udział. WOJSKA LITEWSKIE pod dowództwem HETMANA LITEWSKIEGO - główną siłą tych wojsk czyli 2/3 stanu było ponad 8000 Kozaków, żadnej husarii bo husaria to była w wojskach koronnych a nie na Litwie. Wojska koronne w tej samej chwili były na terenie Korony pod dowództwem króla bo jednocześnie była wojna ze Szwecja mój drogi.
@madedd02 At least as soon as gas and oil sources deplete:). Sometimes I wonder, why the fuck Russians thinks that Poles are something worse than themselfs and why most of you think that Poland is way poorer than you. Russia is not only a wealthy Moscow or St. Petersburg.
@163linker Hmmm... Good point. But the fact is that in economical way Russians have kinda skewed point of view. We don't have oil, gas or that large, fertile agricultural areas and we still manage to have 1/3 of russian GDP having 1/4 of its population. Weird, huh? We don't hate Russians, but their changed by pathology of soviet era mentality, of mighty conquerors who saves the world form the worst evil, being this evil themselfs. You just have some problems with understanding sovereignty.
As we see on GDP level, "soviet occupants" never destoyed all Poland. You know, that`s Russian mentality: to help european "friends" more, than ourselves :) Btw, how`s Polish state obligations? And how much Polish enterprises in Poland belong to Poles?
>"We don't hate Russians"
I see it by youtube`s comments, and in Polish forums. So let`s not invent.
>"...mighty conquerors"
Conquerors? Interesting... Everybody`s normal, but only Russians are conquerors...
1It wasn't liberation. Ocupants just changed.For us this misery ended in 1989 when Peoples Republic felt. 2 In 1944 people of Warsaw were fighting for 2 months straight awaiting Soviet help from the other side of Vistula, where red army stood and were doing nothing. Stalin probably tought that if AK will bleed istself in an uprising it will be much easier to take over the country. Polish underground anti-comunist resistance fought with new establishment till early 1950's.
@163linker 1 I tought we were discussing why many Poles don't like Russians. 2 But you put your own brick in the wall. If Hitler didn't attack USSR you'd stand and look. And I think that Soviets needed more to exploit us economicaly than exterminate(for 50 years you were taking our coal, meat, grain almost for free-like from CSR, Hungary etc.). There was a joke in the 80's: How Polish-Soviet friendship looks like? We are giving them our meat, and they're in return are taking our coal:).
@wolfspider1986 >"If Hitler didn't attack USSR you'd stand and look." You`ve interesting point. 1) USSR = Germany, same occupant, even worse. 2) Standing and looking is bad. So do you wanna be liberated by Soviets earlier 1940? >"Soviets needed more to exploit us economicaly than exterminate" Are you healthy? >"for 50 years you were taking..." Yes, we bought. >"We are giving them our meat, and they're in return are taking our coal:)" Haha, I see it was invented by "intelligent" people.
@163linker This discussion is kind of pointless. I wish there, in Russia, would be a big bang!-something should happen to get rid of old communist elites, open communist archives and tell the people how it really was. It will change Russia, but it will change also whole former eastern block. Since then we have to stop this stupid argues and get back to normal lives. This endles row is tireing me. Cheers.
Get some literature in english from amazone or sth, and read a bit more about history. POV
@163linker 2 You said that soviets came to liberate us from nazi occupants so what kind of question is it anyway? 3 Between 1st of august and 3rd of october, when Warsaw uprising took place Red Army didn't moved for even one inch. They were standing for 2 months. Alied B-17 pilots were risking their life to drop some weapons and ammo carried from the northern Italy, and when the Polish runners sent by AK command crossed Vistula and begged Soviets for suplies, they were mostly refusing.
@163linker Yes. What the fuck is those 3 mln pieces of ammo. Where were weapons to shoot soviet ammo? Those delivieries was some kind of bad joke since AK used mainly 9 mm Para, british .303, .45 ACP and kraut 7.92 weapons. Few mossins or PPSh as an addition to this ammo, wouldn't be such a bad idea tho. They didn't wrote that in your history book, did they?
@163linker And Belarussian Front had sth about 200 km's along rivers Narew and Vistula in august '44 from Serock to Kazimierz Dln., and region of Warsaw was a small part of it. They were pushing to capture bridgeheads more to the south. And a 100 000 solidiers wasn't large (official)casualities like for a Soviet WW2 tactics(u nas lyudei mnoga, k berlina dostatochno).
>"London poles could not cooperate with Soviets "
I see. They moved 200 000 warsawians under german cannon`s, but cooperation with Red Army was bad for them. interesting. "they`re total evil, but they should help us".
And London`s Poles refused to build coalition government with Lublin`s commitee.
London poles could not cooperate with Soviets because they were only legal autorithy, and in 1944 Soviets established PKWN in Lublin-Polish Commite of National Liberation-that was a germ of Soviet administration in Poland.They established sth like new authorities and supremed it over Government on Exile.This was kinda fucked up, and none sane Government could agree to it. Second,London denied outbreak of Warsaw uprising but AK command in Poland tought it will be a good idea to start it
@163linker Polish solidiers were fighting with a bare hands, when elite of Soviet forces where sitting on their asses, farting in their stools. AK fighters were taken into captivity, civilians who stayed in the cit were mostly exterminated, and the city itself became a pile of rubble.
3Many Russians thinks that Poles are made of "worse kind of clay", and that we can't rule ourselfs without Russian patronate. If you doesn't think that way you'd be surprised how widespread this poisnt of view is among you fellow citizens.
It's not brainwashing. These are pure facts that you can't deny. And what about 1939? First USSR atacked us hand in hand wieth Nazi Genmany and 5 years later you came as liberators? What about stolen terrains after WW2, or massive repatriations?
Winned uprising could be even better for USSR, imho.
>"Russians thinks that Poles are made of "worse kind of clay"..."
What`s your sources of such knowledge about russian mind?
>"These are pure facts that you can't deny."
Sure.
>"First USSR atacked us hand in hand wieth Nazi Genmany"
What are you saying... USSR attacked Poland 1.09.39? Allies, Romania, Poland declared war USSR? League of Nations punished USSR? Alternative of 17.09 is German-Soviet border in 30 km of Minsk.
What about cold blooded murder of polish officers in Katyn? What about massive dispalacement of Poles to Siberia in early 1940's. And believe me, this list is much longer than that. I'm young and Russians didn't do anything bad to me, but for many people, expecialy elders, Russians will always seem as a thread.
Yes it was milions exactly, not figures. Most of Berlings and Anders armies were formed of Poles sent to Syberia in early 40s.Nazis, Poles, Russian foresic scientist in early 90s agreed that this was a crime commited by NKVD. It's even in your archives.
@163linker Yeltsin confessed, so i still dont understand why the fuck you dont want to acknowledge it. We dont want to punish you, but you are acting like a 8 years old who broke a glass and still claims that he didn't do it, despite that evidence is obvious.
@163linker Even in my family there are such persons. My grandpa imprisoned and tortured by NKVD for 2 weeks, because he found himself at the wrong time in the wrong place, or my grandma's sister raped by a "Glorious Liberator", the same day that grandpa was arrested. Massive thievery, vandalism, lack of smalest signs of respect to natives - that how most of Poles remembers as you call it"liberation".And between 1945-89 wasn't much better.So please, try to understand a Pole who dont like Russians
@glaxosmith123 since when? most? Władysław Jagiełło was Lithuanian, his son Władysław III Warneńczyk was half Polish, half Lithuanian. So was Kazimierz IV Jagiellończyk. His son, Jan I Olbracht was 1/4 Lithuanian (he had a Polish mother). 1+0.5+0.5+0.25 gives us about 2.25... of the total of 36. Which is about 6.25%.
@knezevic31 maybe but, if you wanna know Poles and Russians = old enemies you know, I'm not rasist but, Poles hate russians because of partition and komunizm, Russians hate Poles because of Age of turbulance (we took Moscow, only we, napolen too but he took burned moscow so what is this?) and thay hate us because of battle of warsaw (1920), because we made that ussr colapsed and komunizm in many countries collapsedl, and they hate us because of political situation
knezevic31 - and few milions german soldiers too - for hitler new europe... IMHO stalin was worse murder than hitler - incredible is love some russians for this devil.
FREE EUROP???!!! They sold as out by pact ribentrop-molotov attacked as in 17 september after german and you say they made free europ? and when they killed 20000 our polish officers in europ that was making free europ??? and when they made komunizm in countries like ussr, Czechosłowacja, Hungury, it was free Europ?! and when england, france, and usa sold as to stalin that was free europ???!!! thanks for russians our economy is backward FUCK uSSR (not russia but ussr, stalin and komunizm
@knezevic31 germany of course, but ribentrop-molotov was before, and russians attacked later because they was afraid what will be if Poland will win with german, they russians attacked when they could help, and before german attacked they did nothing with german, only attack of german made russians to fight with them, but Poles said to all world in 1936 "germany making army for attack on all world" and what? who helped as? nobody. and what is worse? russian gived as nife in back!
@kwamik I don't true is that they gived as nive in back and now they call themeselfes heroes, If germany didn't attack russians, russians never attacked germany, and that's it they retrait, and nothing more
@knezevic31 Communism is the same as fascism!!! You don't know this? One difference is that that fascist are nationalists and communism were internationalist. But everything was the same, that is why when Hitler dissolved communistic party in German all communists from this party were sing up to NSDAP. Pleas man write some books. You know I'm politologist I'm Polish so I know history of my country, two of my grandfathers fought in this war one was with Second Polish Army fighting for Berlin.
@knezevic31 Who attacked Poland first??? Hitler sing with Stalin: Hitler-Stalin pact and they divide Poland between IIIrd Reich and ZSRR before war started!!! And Hitler strike on 1st September and Russians put knife into our backs on 17th September! And we were still fighting but then against two invaders!!! And Russian murdered over 30 thousand Polish officers just bcoz they were Poles! That was they only crime! Bcoz they were Poles the get shot in the back of their head!
@knezevic31 Better learn history Russians together with Germans invaded Poland in 1939 Germans on the 1st September and Russians on the 17th September 1939. Start learning history
@knezevic31 But they didn't detain Germans in Poland! They detain them under Moscow and also bcoz us Poles bcoz it is us who broke down Enigma code! And we gave 2 Enigmas with their codes to Great Britain and British inform Russians where Germans will strike! We hade the biggest resistance in Europe! And what Russians did? At first they invade us hand by hand with Germans and then they stole half of my country! We lose over 12 million people in WWII 1/3 of our population!
Serbs killed 50000polish people (in serbia) why? because they have helped then Ustasas, why? one religion and Vatikans diabolical taktik in ww2! so ask me why was a Paps from Poland? Johannes Paul II in year 1978?? :) to chras cimmunism? for more hate against russian ppl?? this is not Poland ... sry for my bad english
@knezevic31 What stupid things you telling me? Hmmm? What 50.000 Poles Serbs were killed? From where Poles found themselves on Balkans???? Polish solders through Romania try to go to France and they fight there with Germans and then after evacuation to England they fought in battle of Narvik and in Battle of England. For God's sake stop telling such stupid things and learn history. Pope was from Poland bcoz God want this and he prepare such way for this great and holy man. And he free us. Hello
@knezevic31 Aaaaa... So if You are from Serbia then now everything is clear... I have no mo question why you are so fall in love with Russians... Hhahahaha... But the most funny thing is that that you love them so much but YOU DON'T KNOW THEM!!! Hahahahaha. Your Russians always plot with Germans against us and other nations in middle Europe. When they try to invade us alone then we always kick their asses for example in 1921. That is why the invade us in 1939 together with Germans!
@GregorMar the problem is poland hate russian how the croats hate the serbs
this is your religion man..
vatikan is the shit and i know why...
why is poland katholik? start from the begin! are Russians blame again? if Poland is stronger than Russia what make the Americans weapons in Poland :) or Poland must act this because German says it? ohh :(
and russians and serbs are brother during every war!
@knezevic31 I told You what is the problem! Russians always plot with Germans against us! They destroyed Poland together with Germans and Austrians in 18 century and then they invade us hand by hand with Hitler. What you say to me some craps about Vatican? Jesus are you sick or something? I don't care about any Vatican, for me the most important thing is Poland not any Vatican, I believe in God not in Vatican, do you have some mania on this issue?
@knezevic31 I'm serious and if you want to talk then be serious too and don't tell me such crap that here in Poland is some American weapon BCOZ THERE IS ANY AMERICAN WEAPON HERE! THERE IS NO AMERICANS HERE! And Polish military budget is 17 billion dollars and Russian budget is now 25 billion dollars and we have 120 thousand solders and they 900 thousand so you think that it is enough for so many solders? They HAVE NO MONEY FOR ARMY! Open your eyes! Stop watching Russian propaganda!
@knezevic31 You think that solders in Russia will be fighting for rise like Chinese solders? Russians have Chines on their head now, and China will care for Russia don't be worry. And as to solders we have 120 occupational solders and Russians still have their 18 year old boys... so... Did you watched movies from Grozny from the end of nineteen nineties? If not then you should see how many those young boys dead there in fights with Chechnyan solders fighting from years.
@knezevic31 Yehhhh you Serbs are their brother??? hahahahaha Rusuans HAVE NO BROTHERS there are ONLY RUSSIANS!!! This is te issue! You don't know Russians AT ALL! Ukrainians learn their lesson what is Russian rule where Russians killed over 10 millions Ukrainian people in the nineteen thirties. But if you Serbs love them so much then I wish you know them closer but don't cry after this hahahaha, we know them sine 500 years and you don't know them at all...
@knezevic31 And you want to know why Poland is Catholics? We were ALWAYS Catholics. Poland was baptised in the 966 from Czechs! And Germans and Vatican have nothing common with this! The more we accept Christianity from Czechs bcoz we didn't want to take it from Germans, those was our chose! And Rus was baptised in 988.
@knezevic31 And from where you have yours? From Greeks the SAME SHIT! They fuck themselves there guys fucks with guys and you accept Christianity from them, THE SAME SHIT, so now you happy? I can use also plenty such "sweet" words if you like. Or start talking seriously without rude words using arguments not "shit" words OK? And please remind me what Russians did in Afghanistan between 1980-98? They were there on vacations? Hmmmm? ...
@GregorMar but remind me what England and Spain did in America to the Indians and the west crusaders... its to deep man and we Slavc ppl hate the West countrys..
The Polenish king sent no help 1389 to the Serbians. But later to the German and Austria and what was with Polish kingdom after the victory in Vienna? Vatika said a thank you?The Serbians would have high celebrated Polish ppl like the Russians today... what the Russians have made in the Afgahnistan? is this a reason you copy? damn
@knezevic31 England and Spain have nothing common with this matter. keep straight int this issue don't jump here and there OK.And don't say "Slavic" ppl who hate West countries bcoz for example Poles have the highest amounts of SLAVIC genes R1a And Slaves are also Czechs, Slovakians, Croats, Slovenians not only Serbs and Russians my dear, If you wish I may send you sources where you will see who is "bigger" Slav.
@GregorMar my first comment was "damn brothe vs brother" You have what against it.. Me not... and just thin abut it why Poles Croats Slovenians Czechs hate Serbs Russians Bulgars Makedonians one thing religion :O???
@knezevic31 You thinking that we hate Russians bcoz religion? Hahahahaha NO!!! We hate them bcoz of they did to us over 200 years! They wanted to destroy us hand by hand with Germans and Austrians. NOT BCOZ OF RELIGION! For example my grandmother was born in Russia in small village near Moscow! my fathers family has roots on Ukraine and my mother father was born in Belarus!
@knezevic31 In Poland were many religions. We hate them bcoz they do everything to destroy Poland and killed Poles! I tell You Russians have no brothers and you telling this bcoz you don't know them.
@knezevic31 As for 1389 my dear we were fighting with Germanic Teutonic Knights! And Serbs didn't send no help also! So what argument is this???? And after Vienna as I remember Serbs also were so happy that we crushed Turks... But we shouldn't do this our King should strike not for Vienna but for Russia! If you don't remember what Russians did in Afghanistan then maybe you should watch again Rambo 3 there is all story about what they did there.
@GregorMar fighting with germans ohh and russians ok... :D
rambo 3 come on man this is an american film dont watch so much movis man xD
Serbians wanted aid of other Christian countries. We thought it goes around completely europa not only around Kosovo..., however, central issues Slaven died again more than German (what a destiny)
about Turk Russia wars we dont need to talk, they were bad..
@knezevic31 Listen don't make me laugh you want to tell me that you didn't heard in Serbia about Soviet invasion on Afghanistan 1980-89???? Hahahahah... Rambo 3 is telling about this war or maybe it is just movie? hahahahaha... Yeh you are really funny now. And did you watch Russian movie The 9th company? So what Soviets were there??? Please TELL ME :-))))
@knezevic31 Ooooo... And who were Soviets? What nation is this brothers of Nazi? Soviets=Russians and Nazists=Germans not only Soviets or Nazists those people originate from some nations not from Mars man. If you didn't watched this movie then you should try to find some samples on YouTube.
@GregorMar Soviet are the ppl from 15 repobliks in Soviet Union
Soviet is a Russian word it´s mean World or People Union of Socialist ppl not only russians... its like nato, american kill ppl in irak for oil and poland must do it to, its a union :) same s*** but Udssr is dead and NATO is now! year 2010 this is democracy... democracy is the cousin from nazism and communism...
@knezevic31 No my dear it is the biggest lie no one wanted to be in USSR it is Russia changed their name from Rusian Empire on USSR if we dint fought with then and won great Polish-Soviet war in 1920-1921 then Poland will be the 17th republic of USSR! There were Russian of course Stalin was half Georgian half Pole, Dzierżyński was Pole, Lenin was Jew but this was Russian country, and Russians were people who were the main strenght of USSR like Germans were main strenght of the IIIrd Reich.
@knezevic31 Nato was force of which should to stand against Warsaw Pact if there Cold war will changed on Hot war. You know what I don't love USA I love only Poland and I don't believe that USA will help us if there will be were between us and Russians but maybe they will give us some tanks and planes but they will not fight against Russians, also Germans and French will not help us, but every other allays Czechs, Hungarians, Croats, Norway, British will help us.
@knezevic31 I'm historian and politologist that is why I think that only respond should be Slavic federation: Poland, Balts, Belarusians, Ukrainians, Czechs, Slovenians, Croats, Slovenians, Hungarians, Moldavians, Romanians, Finis, Bulgarians. Even Serbs if they will want but nothing by force, if You will want then Yes if no then no. it's your choice. This would be the best way then it will be us Slavs people who will be rule them selves not Germans, Americans or Russians in this part of Europe.
@fellinian I didn't say that they are Slavs, read what I wrote. I wrote that they will be part of federation if they will want, and Hungarians like Poles very much as the same Balts, Romanians are also frendly.
@fellinian If You think so... But we don't think so we had our historic lessons about this. And I would like to have such middle European federation bcoz we don't want to be ruled by Germans and French or by Russians. I think other countries as Czechs, Slovakians, Balts, even Croats don't want to only listen what Germans and French will say or wait for Russians, You don't understand what we feel here when Germans and Russians conducts negotiations for example about Baltic pipe.
@fellinian And it's not out of history did You ever heard about Polish-Lithuanian-Ruthenian Commonwealth? Did You heard about Polish kings ruled in Sweden, Poland-Lithuania in Czechs and in Hungary? We all have historical commons here.
@Vessemir Tak się koleś składa że ty powinieneś postudiowac. Czytałeś ty kiedy pakcta conventa? Tam jednym z warunków stawianych królowi była budowa państwa składającego się z trzech Polski, Litwy i Rusi. A Rzeczypospolita trojga narodów została ustanowiona po powstaniach Chmielnickiego zawarto tzw. Unię Hadziacką! A potem raz jeszcze powrócono do tego podczas powstania Styczniowego zawierając tzw. II Unię Horodelską. So... Study, yes STUDY, but yourself!
@Vessemir Czy ty masz problemy z czytaniem czy tylko z rozumieniem tekstu czytanego? Oczywiście dokument to Unia Hadziacka – zawarta 16 września 1658 roku w Hadziaczu umowa między Rzeczpospolitą Obojga Narodów a Kozackim Wojskiem Zaporoskim, reprezentowanym przez hetmana kozackiego Iwana Wyhowskiego.
"cos takiego nigdy nie istniajo. To byl tylko pomysl."
zeby daleko nie szukac, wikipedia: PROJEKT polityczny przekształcenia federacji Korony Królestwa Polskiego i Wielkiego Księstwa Litewskiego tworzącej Rzeczpospolitą Obojga Narodów
Rzeczpospolita zgodziła się formalnie na powołanie, nowego, trzeciego członu unii, jakim miało być Księstwo Ruskie. W 1658 zawarto unię hadziacką.
BYLO JUZ JEDNAK ZA POZNO NA REALIZACJE TYCH PLANOW.
@Vessemir Facet powiedz mi ty się dobrze czujesz czy nie? To było ZREALIZOWANE bo umowę ZAWARTO! ZAWARTO! Kumasz czy może słowo zbyt trudne do zrozumienia? Jak coś zawarto to TO ISTNIAŁO! tak samo jak KONSTYTUCJA 3 MAJA. Tak na marginesie jestem prawnikiem z drugim fakultetem historyka i politologa więc na twoje nieszczęście drogie dziecko o ważności umów międzynarodowych oraz kiedy i jak umowa wchodzi w życie wiem lepiej od ciebie.
@Vessemir To że trwała wojna Polsko-Moskiewska a potem Moskwa zajeła większość Rusi wraz z Kijowem to inna para kaloszy. Umowa weszła w życie i obowiązywała tylko większość tego co miało być 3 członem RP został zajęty przez Rosję. Dotarło? Tak samo jak we wspomnianej już konstytucji 3 maja... Serio uwielbiam takie przemądrzałe ogóreczki jak ty które piszą tekst z wikipedii nie rozumiejąc nawet znaczenia przepisanych słów które mówią "w 1658 zawarto unię hadziacką"
Sam napisałeś "co miało byc"...zaprzeczasz sam sobie. To bylo, czy nie, ha?
"W 1658 zawarto unię hadziacką.
Było już jednak za późno na realizację tych planów."
I to niby ja nie czytam dokładnie. Zawarto, ale do realizacji nie doszło, proste. Istnial to projekt, a nie sama RP trojga narodow. A twoje wyksztalcenie malo mnie interesuje :]
@Vessemir Ręce opadają. Chłopie raz jeszcze może za 3 razem dotrze. Umowa ZOSTAŁA PODPISANA I STAŁA SIĘ FAKTEM. Trwało to tylko kilka miesięcy bo w wyniku wojny i pokoju Polska odstąpiła Moskwie na DWA LATA część ukrainy z Kijowem który miał być stolicą trzeciego członu. Za póżno było na realizację włąsnie w tym względzie bo ta część Ukrainy która miała być Wielkim Księstwem Ruskim ODPADŁA OD POLSKI! ALE UMOWA WESZŁA W ŻYCIE Z CHWILĄ PODPISANIA! Dotarło? jasniej już się nie da
@Vessemir Istniała i była faktem kilkanaście miesięcy, dłużej niż konstytucja 3 maja. nie ma znaczenia dla umowy czy trwała ona 1 dzień czy 100 lat. Zaistnienie jest faktem tak jak unia Polsko-Szwedzka, czy nawet Unia Polsko-Rosyjska. Tak na marginesie to istniał związek 3 państw już wcześniej gdy razem z polską i Litwą lennem był Nowogród Wielki. niestety o tym na wikipedii chyba nie ma to też się zdziwisz bo w szkole o tym nie uczą. Jak pójdziesz na studiach na historię to może coś powiedzą
@Vessemir Lenno to więcej niż sojusznik bo część podległa bezwarunkowo. A Nowogród i Nowogrodzianie nawet buntowali się przeciw rżadom władców z Moskwy chcąc powrócić do związku z Polską. niestety my nie wykazywaliśmy w tamtych czasach zbytniego zainteresowania. A Iwan IV groźny po buncie nowogrodu który błagał Polskę o pomoc spalił Nowogród i wymordował 100 tysięcy Nowogrodzian... A my na to pozwoliliśmy bo oni wzniecili bunt licząc że Polska im pomoże. Archeologia fajna rzecz gratuluję.
@Vessemir Tak do czasu potopu 1657 gdy Polska SAMA ZWOLNIŁA JE Z ZALEŻNOŚCI LENNEJ pod groźbą, że Brandeburgia przystąpi do wojny z Polską po stronie Szwedów. Głupio zrobiliśmy bo wojnę wtedy już wygrywaliśmy a Prusy nie mogły zagrozić Polsce, ale zgodzono się na rezygnację.
@GregorMar " Did You heard about Polish kings ruled in Sweden"
No i havent heard about that before, Why? Because there havent been any Polish kinds ruling Sweden! However, There was a Swedish King that ruled both Sweden and Poland for a short while before he was kicked out from Sweden because he was an chatolic, Sweden back then and today are protestantic.
@joonte1010 My dear at first Zygmunt III Waza was half Polish and half Swedish coz his father was Swedish king and his mother was daughter of Polish king that is why he could became POLISH KING. First know facts then talk. And I wrote that "Polish king who ruled in Sweden" coz FIRST HE BECAME KING OF POLAND IN 1587 and then IN 1592 his father - king of Sweden - Jan III died and then he became king of Sweden. So POLISH KING BECAME KING OF SWEDEN! Not king of Sweaden became king of Poland!
@GregorMar He was a Swedish king from a Swedish bloodline, The Vasa bloodline. That bloodline continued to rule Poland for a while after he was kicked out from Sweden. The reason why hes father married the daughter of a Polish King was because he wanted hes son to rule both Nations, But the people in Sweden didnt want chatolism and therefor kicked him out. He returned to Poland as a broken man and accourding to history books became weird and such.
@joonte1010 No my dear he had also POLISH Jagiellonian KINGS BLOOD, his mother was Katarzyna Jagiellonka daughter of Polish king Sigmunt Stary (Sigismund I the Old) do you have only blood of your father? LOL. And as I told You first he became POLISH KING so POLISH KING BECAME SWEDISH KING NOT INVERSELY, don't be a retard. It is a fact so take it or live it. His father Jan II wanted that Catholics and protestants be closer. In Poland it was possible but Swedish nobles were too shortsightedness.
@joonte1010 And you scare even to show your fucking face coz you're sucking negro's cock right now and swallowing his cum, you faggot. I'm more handsome then you will ever be. Now I talk with your language? You like this it turns you on???
@joonte1010 Uhahaha really funny and now go to school and tell this to your biology teacher he will have so great fun as me :-))) Write more about DNA and you will know that from all parent you have 50% of genes, in other case you are a mutant :-))) hahahaha
@GregorMar You look like a Mutant, And if you dont have any knowledge about genetics and DNA i suggest you to look it up instead and read about it instead of making yourself look stupid.
@joonte1010 ups sorry you were talking to mirror? You must be a mutant if you talking like this, it shows that you have any knowledge. You know you are strong in this show me your face, I see only empty old helmet I see it is your symbol? Uhahahaha Show me your real mug don't be shy :-) And go back to primary school for biology lessons UHAHAHAHAHAHA I just can't from laugh uhahahahahahha my GOD! I didn't laugh so much from so long time uhahahahaha
@joonte1010 ps sorry you were talking to mirror? You must be a mutant if you talking like this, it shows that you have any knowledge. You know you are strong in this show me your face, I see only empty old helmet I see it is your symbol? Uhahahaha Show me your real mug don't be shy :-) And go back to primary school for biology lessons UHAHA I just can't from laugh uhaha my GOD! I didn't laugh so much from so long time uhahaha
@joonte1010 ups sorry you must be talking to mirror? You must be a mutant if you talking like this, it shows that you have any knowledge. You know you are strong in this show me your face, I see only empty old helmet I see it is your symbol? Uhahahaha Show me your real mug don't be shy :-) And go back to primary school for biology lessons UHAHA I just can't from laugh uhahaha my GOD! I didn't laugh so much from so long time uhaha from such fannyboy as you.
@joonte1010 ups sorry you must be talking to mirror? You must be a mutant if you talking like this, it shows that you have any knowledge. You know you are strong in this show me your face, I see only empty old helmet I see it is your symbol? Uhahahaha Show me your real mug don't be shy :-) And go back to primary school for biology lessons UHAHA I just can't from laugh uhahaha my GOD! I didn't laugh so much from so long time uhaha from such fannyboy as you.
Ruskie gowbno.Jedyny pozytek z tego filmu jest taki ze mozna robic z urywkow tego "gowna" filmiki o Husarii:D
Akorg123 6 months ago 7
Paru polskich szlachciców się nawaliło i na kacu zdobyli Moskwę ... i wielka smuta - i święta narodowe - całe szczęście że Husarii tam na prawdę nie było bo do Pekinu byśmy doszli :)
a film ... fajne science fiction - armata ze skóry mi się podobała hehehehe
iwar666 8 months ago 29
@iwar666 buahahah najlepszy koment jaki widziałem na yt :D Ładny pojazd, pozdro :P
Flymanos 7 months ago
@Flymanos To znaczy że bardzo mało siedzisz i czytasz komentarze na yt.
Anakonda259 5 months ago
@iwar666 hehe zrobię sobie taką na psy sąsiada :D oczywiście wezmę kartacze :D
Sebastianek1990 3 months ago
I ta jakość filmu HD
konfigurator1 8 months ago
Czemu ja niemoge zetrzyc komentaz bo byl zmenczony to ponapisywal xD
KWIN2011 9 months ago
Jarema! wszystkich na pal!!
Brengmathew 9 months ago
Te filmy nie zdejmujo sie w rosje . Uraina tez robi filmy nu prosto jak kazdy Lwowiak i ten ktury tam mieszkal obok 2005 zna otym ze na wshodniej ukarinie nawet ukrainskiego nie znajo i tam zdejmujo filmy na rosyjskim jezyku Odessa.
GregorMar ty dlugo bedziesz krencic historie!?
KWIN2011 9 months ago
Te filmy nie zdejmujo sie w rosje . Uraina tez robi filmy nu prosto jak kazdy Lwowiak i ten ktury tam mieszkal obok 2005 zna otym ze na wshodniej ukarinie nawet ukrainskiego nie znajo i tam zdejmujo filmy na rosyjskim jezyku Odessa.
KWIN2011 9 months ago
@KWIN2011 Wiem mam dziewczynę z Krymu która tylko po rusku mówi bo ją w szkole nauczyli że Ukraińskim mówią tylko "głupi ludzie" jak się jej zapytałem dlaczego ona nie mówi po ukraińsku tylko cały czas po rusku.
GregorMar 9 months ago
@GregorMar fakt lepiej po rusku niż po ukraińsku, popieram. Podaj adres to wpadnę do niej na noc na ,,korepetycje'' :-)
xXxPaulGhostxXx 8 months ago
@xXxPaulGhostxXx Koleś masz o sobie zajebiste zdanie co? No to uważaj by ci ktoś faktycznie korepetycji z szacunku do czyichś kobiet nie dał, bo jak byś mi to nie przez internet powiedział tylko w twarz koguciku, to bym ci ryj zrył tak że by cię mamusia rodzona nie poznała. Na nocne korki to chodź ze swoim partnerem z marszów równości.
GregorMar 8 months ago
@GregorMar a ty co? Też masz o sobie zajebiste zdanie, że uważasz, że zryłbyś mi ryj? Nie, to ja tobie, mordochlaście. ,,Na nocne korki to chodź ze swoim partnerem z marszów równości.'' ty hipokryto. Ale nie bój się, nie będę chodził z twoim. Wolę kobiety. Nawet takie puszczalskie penery, jak twoja ,,kobieta'', muahahahahahah.
xXxPaulGhostxXx 8 months ago
RUSSIA PROPAGANDA MOVIE
lukasz103103 10 months ago
Kup czajnik z lepszą rozdzielczością xDDD
123timon1231 11 months ago
Ludzie wesprzyjcie tego gościa co tłumaczy temu szwedzkiemu worowi spermy i cały czas łga. Ten Greg tłumaczy mu jak krowie na rowie a tamten hujozbiet jeszcze go znieważa! Ja niestety nie znam na tyle angielskiego by to zrobić ale jeśli wy znacie to wspomóżcie! Prawda i tak zwycieży.
xMuratoRx 11 months ago
Polish armies following Karl X to Denmark? Karl X spent half a year in Denmark. Had conquered everything except for the Danish Capital which he had put in Siege. The Poles waited for more allies to join because alone, They wouldnt have had a chance against the Battlehardened Swedish army. How ignorant are you?
joonte1010 11 months ago
Co ty, deską klozetową to nagrywałeś?
Ocena2000Tube 1 year ago
czajnikiem nagrywałeś?
gucio919 1 year ago
@gucio919
raczej kalkulatorem
DanioNH 1 year ago
Widzę, że Twój toster ma kamerę
andrzejk1k 1 year ago 14
@andrzejk1k A ja widzę, że ty nie masz mózgu pisząc takie komentarze
BastingOwczar 9 months ago
a jaki to jest film ;p plis :p
ArEkk101 1 year ago
Bad movie! Spoil Russian-Polish relations! Respect Slavic Pride!
RusikSlavicMen 1 year ago 2
@RusikSlavicMen Read my comments at "Polska rok 1612". Greetings.
wladys678 1 year ago
@ArEkk101 Wersja reżyserska "300 spartan".
Olutek90 1 year ago
Ludzie oglądacie ten bzdurny 1612 a to bujda na resorach bo w tej walce ŻADNEJ HUSARII NIE BYŁO!!! A Ruscy walczyli nie z Polakami tylko z 8000 KOZAKÓW (to ci z Ukrainy jak by ktoś nie kontaktował) 1500 jazdy pancernej LITEWSKIEJ Z WKL!!! I 1500 PIECHOTY NIEMIECKIEJ!!! na Kremlu też było jeszcze 3000 kozaków rejestrowych. Obie strony w walka straciły po 1500 żołnieży a jeden z ruskich dowódców został ciężko ranny my zaś przegraliśmy taktycznie ale tam Polaków nie było BUJDA NA RESORACH!!!!!!
GregorMar 1 year ago 13
@GregorMar ty idiota jesteś widać że nie oglądałeś tego filmu więc się nie udzielaj
need111ful 11 months ago
@need111ful A o co ci pajacu chodzi?
GregorMar 11 months ago
@GregorMar Wchodzę żeby obejżeć ten film a tu mi wyskakuje ten twój infantylny post. Chciałbym zauważyć, że 1612 rok to już po unii lubelskiej która połączyła litwę i polskę w jedno państwo, więc "1500 jazdy pancernej LITEWSKIEJ Z WKL" jest jednocześnie polską jazdą. Ponadto Ukraina już wcześniej została włączona do polski, więc "8000 KOZAKÓW" też było polakami.
tiar997 11 months ago
@tiar997 Wchodzę na pocztę a tu twój infantylny post na youtube. Otóz moja kochana biedroneczko, spieszę by cię poinformować że Unia lubelska nie połączyła Polski i Litwy w jedno państwo tylko przekształciła UNIĘ PERSONALNĄ W UNIĘ REALNĄ. A Litwa miała odrębną armię, budżet i system praw. Wspólna była POLITYKA ZAGRANICZNA, dopiero konstytucja 3 maja połączyła Polskę i Litwę w jedno państwo. Wróc lepiej do podstawówki i odświerz podstawy historii lub ewentualnie zapytaj doktora google.
GregorMar 11 months ago
@tiar997 Jazda litewska NIE JEST JEDNOCZEŚNIE POLSKĄ JAZDĄ bo jest JAZDĄ LITEWSKĄ! Nie wiem skąd biorą się takie baranki które nawet przed napisaniem swojej głupotki zwyczajnie najpierw nie sprawdzą i nie poczytają czy to cho chca wystukać jest prawdziwe czy nie. Litwini to Litwini Polska to KORONA. A nazwa Rzeczypospolitej po Unii lubelskiej to Rzeczypospolita obojga narodów a nie Polska. Ukraińcy nie byli Polakami tylko Rusinami. Serio wróc i napisz coś mądrego jak przeczytasz kilka książek.
GregorMar 11 months ago
Zgadzam się , jak najbardziej...
panobiektywnyKielce1 10 months ago
@GregorMar niezapominaj że ruscy krecili ten film, jeszcze niewidziałem żadnego ruskiego filmu opartego na prawdziwych faktach
TheBartu1997 9 months ago
@GregorMar ta gzie ty takie znalal? W Historii Polski ktura wypuszczona 2018roku ?)
KWIN2011 9 months ago
@KWIN2011 W prawdziwej historii a nie w ruskich bajkach. Taka prawda przeczytaj sobie oryginalne opisy bitwy z 17 wieku, przeczytaj jakie wojska brały udział. WOJSKA LITEWSKIE pod dowództwem HETMANA LITEWSKIEGO - główną siłą tych wojsk czyli 2/3 stanu było ponad 8000 Kozaków, żadnej husarii bo husaria to była w wojskach koronnych a nie na Litwie. Wojska koronne w tej samej chwili były na terenie Korony pod dowództwem króla bo jednocześnie była wojna ze Szwecja mój drogi.
GregorMar 9 months ago
1612 это по сути закат польской империи.
0Russia0 1 year ago
to teraz Polacy będą mieli problem gdzie zakopać tych ruskich
hehe
POLAND 4-Ever
Bartoszw55 1 year ago 3
Twoje kanapka miała kamerę!
TheVerinen2 1 year ago
poland rocks <3
ryhu1000 1 year ago
Poland king .Polska Pany. XD
maciek1191 1 year ago
Revise, Russia, revise!
macpora 1 year ago
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163linker 1 year ago
Ten film jest nudny jak flaki z olejem.
pixxel67 1 year ago
Well, Poland is nothing now...But Russia is the biggest country on earth, with a great feature.
madedd02 1 year ago
@madedd02 At least as soon as gas and oil sources deplete:). Sometimes I wonder, why the fuck Russians thinks that Poles are something worse than themselfs and why most of you think that Poland is way poorer than you. Russia is not only a wealthy Moscow or St. Petersburg.
wolfspider1986 1 year ago
@wolfspider1986
>"At least as soon as gas and oil sources deplete:)"
It`ll be hard times. But will rest of the world be better without oil and gas?
>"why the fuck Russians thinks that Poles are something worse"
Same question for Poles about Russians. May I understand, that according you, Poles respects Russians as they respects theyselves? :)
163linker 1 year ago
@163linker Hmmm... Good point. But the fact is that in economical way Russians have kinda skewed point of view. We don't have oil, gas or that large, fertile agricultural areas and we still manage to have 1/3 of russian GDP having 1/4 of its population. Weird, huh? We don't hate Russians, but their changed by pathology of soviet era mentality, of mighty conquerors who saves the world form the worst evil, being this evil themselfs. You just have some problems with understanding sovereignty.
wolfspider1986 1 year ago
@wolfspider1986
As we see on GDP level, "soviet occupants" never destoyed all Poland. You know, that`s Russian mentality: to help european "friends" more, than ourselves :) Btw, how`s Polish state obligations? And how much Polish enterprises in Poland belong to Poles?
>"We don't hate Russians"
I see it by youtube`s comments, and in Polish forums. So let`s not invent.
>"...mighty conquerors"
Conquerors? Interesting... Everybody`s normal, but only Russians are conquerors...
163linker 1 year ago
@wolfspider1986
>"...who saves the world form the worst evil"
I see, many people in Poland so brainwashed, that they regret about liberation-1945. So, they`d choiced General Gouvernment.
>"being this evil themselfs"
Great, so we`re the worst evil. Interesting, why Warsaw waited "the worst evil" in 1944...
>"You just have some problems with understanding sovereignty. "
Who said it to you? Polish journalists? May be your Russian friends are so weird that you can concluse that? That`s propaganda.
163linker 1 year ago
1It wasn't liberation. Ocupants just changed.For us this misery ended in 1989 when Peoples Republic felt. 2 In 1944 people of Warsaw were fighting for 2 months straight awaiting Soviet help from the other side of Vistula, where red army stood and were doing nothing. Stalin probably tought that if AK will bleed istself in an uprising it will be much easier to take over the country. Polish underground anti-comunist resistance fought with new establishment till early 1950's.
wolfspider1986 1 year ago
@wolfspider1986
Very interesting, all historical conversations with Poles are changing to "standart": katyn, occupation, kick on back, syberia...
>"Ocupants just changed."
Are you sure, that if Germans had 44 years to build New Order - there could be 38 millions of Poles, like today? May be more?
>"awaiting Soviet help from the other side..."
So, as I said, they awaited help of The World Evil - USSR?
>"red army stood and were doing nothing"
100 000 losses of First Belorussian during august...
163linker 1 year ago
@163linker 1 I tought we were discussing why many Poles don't like Russians. 2 But you put your own brick in the wall. If Hitler didn't attack USSR you'd stand and look. And I think that Soviets needed more to exploit us economicaly than exterminate(for 50 years you were taking our coal, meat, grain almost for free-like from CSR, Hungary etc.). There was a joke in the 80's: How Polish-Soviet friendship looks like? We are giving them our meat, and they're in return are taking our coal:).
wolfspider1986 1 year ago
163linker 1 year ago
@163linker This discussion is kind of pointless. I wish there, in Russia, would be a big bang!-something should happen to get rid of old communist elites, open communist archives and tell the people how it really was. It will change Russia, but it will change also whole former eastern block. Since then we have to stop this stupid argues and get back to normal lives. This endles row is tireing me. Cheers.
Get some literature in english from amazone or sth, and read a bit more about history. POV
wolfspider1986 1 year ago
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163linker 1 year ago
@163linker 2 You said that soviets came to liberate us from nazi occupants so what kind of question is it anyway? 3 Between 1st of august and 3rd of october, when Warsaw uprising took place Red Army didn't moved for even one inch. They were standing for 2 months. Alied B-17 pilots were risking their life to drop some weapons and ammo carried from the northern Italy, and when the Polish runners sent by AK command crossed Vistula and begged Soviets for suplies, they were mostly refusing.
wolfspider1986 1 year ago
@wolfspider1986
>"You said that soviets came to liberate us from nazi occupants so what kind of question is it anyway?"
Yes, Soviets came. I don`t understand your question.
>"Red Army didn't moved for even one inch."
So, First Belorussian front fought with a spirits, so they lost 100 men during one august 1944?
3 millions of ammo, what AK received from Soviets - do you remember it?
And main conclusion: London`s Poles should cooperate with Red Army, before ordering to uprise.
163linker 1 year ago
@163linker Yes. What the fuck is those 3 mln pieces of ammo. Where were weapons to shoot soviet ammo? Those delivieries was some kind of bad joke since AK used mainly 9 mm Para, british .303, .45 ACP and kraut 7.92 weapons. Few mossins or PPSh as an addition to this ammo, wouldn't be such a bad idea tho. They didn't wrote that in your history book, did they?
wolfspider1986 1 year ago
@wolfspider198
>"What the fuck is those 3 mln pieces of ammo."
So, let`s count: We gave you 3 mln`s of ammo and 2 500 weapons. 1 200 ammo for one arm. Also, 1300 plane-flyings to bomb Germans in Warsaw.
>"And Belarussian Front had sth about 200 km's... and region of Warsaw was a small part of it"
Of course, Red Army command should do, as the best for strategy. 2 tank army, whitch was on Warsaw`s front part, lost 244 tanks during 20.07-8.08.
Brest was liberated only 30.07.
163linker 1 year ago
@163linker And Belarussian Front had sth about 200 km's along rivers Narew and Vistula in august '44 from Serock to Kazimierz Dln., and region of Warsaw was a small part of it. They were pushing to capture bridgeheads more to the south. And a 100 000 solidiers wasn't large (official)casualities like for a Soviet WW2 tactics(u nas lyudei mnoga, k berlina dostatochno).
wolfspider1986 1 year ago
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@wolfspider1986
>"u nas lyudei mnoga, k berlina dostatochno"
Ty durak?
>"London poles could not cooperate with Soviets "
I see. They moved 200 000 warsawians under german cannon`s, but cooperation with Red Army was bad for them. interesting. "they`re total evil, but they should help us".
And London`s Poles refused to build coalition government with Lublin`s commitee.
>"they were only legal autorithy"
In their London`s flats - of course :)
163linker 1 year ago
London poles could not cooperate with Soviets because they were only legal autorithy, and in 1944 Soviets established PKWN in Lublin-Polish Commite of National Liberation-that was a germ of Soviet administration in Poland.They established sth like new authorities and supremed it over Government on Exile.This was kinda fucked up, and none sane Government could agree to it. Second,London denied outbreak of Warsaw uprising but AK command in Poland tought it will be a good idea to start it
wolfspider1986 1 year ago
@163linker Polish solidiers were fighting with a bare hands, when elite of Soviet forces where sitting on their asses, farting in their stools. AK fighters were taken into captivity, civilians who stayed in the cit were mostly exterminated, and the city itself became a pile of rubble.
wolfspider1986 1 year ago
3Many Russians thinks that Poles are made of "worse kind of clay", and that we can't rule ourselfs without Russian patronate. If you doesn't think that way you'd be surprised how widespread this poisnt of view is among you fellow citizens.
It's not brainwashing. These are pure facts that you can't deny. And what about 1939? First USSR atacked us hand in hand wieth Nazi Genmany and 5 years later you came as liberators? What about stolen terrains after WW2, or massive repatriations?
wolfspider1986 1 year ago
@wolfspider1986
Winned uprising could be even better for USSR, imho.
>"Russians thinks that Poles are made of "worse kind of clay"..."
What`s your sources of such knowledge about russian mind?
>"These are pure facts that you can't deny."
Sure.
>"First USSR atacked us hand in hand wieth Nazi Genmany"
What are you saying... USSR attacked Poland 1.09.39? Allies, Romania, Poland declared war USSR? League of Nations punished USSR? Alternative of 17.09 is German-Soviet border in 30 km of Minsk.
163linker 1 year ago
What about cold blooded murder of polish officers in Katyn? What about massive dispalacement of Poles to Siberia in early 1940's. And believe me, this list is much longer than that. I'm young and Russians didn't do anything bad to me, but for many people, expecialy elders, Russians will always seem as a thread.
wolfspider1986 1 year ago
@wolfspider1986
>"What about stolen terrains after WW2"
180 000 km^2 with non-Polish majority for 108 000 km^2 for Poles only. And action "Wisła". Occupants, such occupants...
>"massive repatriations? "
It could be better to talk with figures, not "millions".
>"What about cold blooded murder of polish officers in Katyn?"
I`m sorry, dude, but I`m sure on 95%, that Katyn is German job.
163linker 1 year ago
Yes it was milions exactly, not figures. Most of Berlings and Anders armies were formed of Poles sent to Syberia in early 40s.Nazis, Poles, Russian foresic scientist in early 90s agreed that this was a crime commited by NKVD. It's even in your archives.
wolfspider1986 1 year ago
@wolfspider1986
>"Yes it was milions exactly, not figures"
Milliards, milliards :)
Interesting, Memorial counted 300 000 deportated in 1939-41, and 50 000 - after 1944.
>"...scientist in early 90s agreed that this was a crime commited by NKVD.I t's even in your archives."
That`s not proofs about murdering. Only one proof of soviet responcibility is folder №1, where`s 43 fake`s properties.
>"Yeltsin confessed"
Hyhy, everybody respects Yeltsyn :D Allways_drunken is not believeable person.
163linker 1 year ago
@163linker Yeltsin confessed, so i still dont understand why the fuck you dont want to acknowledge it. We dont want to punish you, but you are acting like a 8 years old who broke a glass and still claims that he didn't do it, despite that evidence is obvious.
wolfspider1986 1 year ago
@wolfspider1986
>"i still dont understand why the fuck you dont want to acknowledge it."
Because modern Katyn version is faked. In first - by Goebbels and Poles in 1943, in second - in 1985-95 years.
>"open communist archives and tell the people how it really was."
I agree. But everybody should ALSO open their archives. We studied it from western world.
Sooo, we`ll be like jentlemen, only after you :)
>"Get some literature in english from amazone"
We have all your literature, don`t worry.
163linker 1 year ago
@163linker Even in my family there are such persons. My grandpa imprisoned and tortured by NKVD for 2 weeks, because he found himself at the wrong time in the wrong place, or my grandma's sister raped by a "Glorious Liberator", the same day that grandpa was arrested. Massive thievery, vandalism, lack of smalest signs of respect to natives - that how most of Poles remembers as you call it"liberation".And between 1945-89 wasn't much better.So please, try to understand a Pole who dont like Russians
wolfspider1986 1 year ago
Polish kings ruled east europe.
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glaxosmith123 1 year ago
@glaxosmith123 since when? most? Władysław Jagiełło was Lithuanian, his son Władysław III Warneńczyk was half Polish, half Lithuanian. So was Kazimierz IV Jagiellończyk. His son, Jan I Olbracht was 1/4 Lithuanian (he had a Polish mother). 1+0.5+0.5+0.25 gives us about 2.25... of the total of 36. Which is about 6.25%.
You think that 6.2% is "most"? I don't think so!
blizniack 1 year ago
Lekka jazda przeciwko husarii....Ten film to istna bzdura..Inne sceny sa jeszcze bardziej idiotyczne jak chociażby husaria szturmująca miasto!
riker74a 1 year ago
co to za zryp wstawia nagrania w takiej jakości ...
zozol000vp 1 year ago
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marcoss330 1 year ago
@marcoss330
SZACUNEK!!!
hussarcompl 1 year ago
czytaj!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
marcoss330 1 year ago
This film is bullshit....
GERO303 1 year ago 2
Интересно, а в Польше ещё остались славяне ?
lCACl 1 year ago
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ksendzsurala 1 year ago
Co to za arabskie hieroglify? Ktoś wie co ten pacjent chce?
GregorMar 1 year ago
biedroneczko leć do nieba przynieś mi kawałek chleba rotfl xD pozdro 5/5 oczywiście
Groncik05 1 year ago
this film is fiction... many things didn't happen at all or they are overinterpretation of the director..
We all should learn history ! not watch films like this.
avenger884 1 year ago
brother vs brother
damn :´(
knezevic31 1 year ago
@knezevic31 what? brothers vs brothers? It was Poles vs Russians, why you said brothers vs brothers?
R4D01234 1 year ago
one blood man
knezevic31 1 year ago
@knezevic31 maybe but, if you wanna know Poles and Russians = old enemies you know, I'm not rasist but, Poles hate russians because of partition and komunizm, Russians hate Poles because of Age of turbulance (we took Moscow, only we, napolen too but he took burned moscow so what is this?) and thay hate us because of battle of warsaw (1920), because we made that ussr colapsed and komunizm in many countries collapsedl, and they hate us because of political situation
R4D01234 1 year ago
this is ok
but 16 millions russian soldiers gave her life for a "free" Europe (WW2)
knezevic31 1 year ago
knezevic31 - and few milions german soldiers too - for hitler new europe... IMHO stalin was worse murder than hitler - incredible is love some russians for this devil.
MrRembel 1 year ago
FREE EUROP???!!! They sold as out by pact ribentrop-molotov attacked as in 17 september after german and you say they made free europ? and when they killed 20000 our polish officers in europ that was making free europ??? and when they made komunizm in countries like ussr, Czechosłowacja, Hungury, it was free Europ?! and when england, france, and usa sold as to stalin that was free europ???!!! thanks for russians our economy is backward FUCK uSSR (not russia but ussr, stalin and komunizm
R4D01234 1 year ago
what is better? komunizam or fashizam????
who attacked Poland first? Garmany or ussr?
knezevic31 1 year ago
@knezevic31 germany of course, but ribentrop-molotov was before, and russians attacked later because they was afraid what will be if Poland will win with german, they russians attacked when they could help, and before german attacked they did nothing with german, only attack of german made russians to fight with them, but Poles said to all world in 1936 "germany making army for attack on all world" and what? who helped as? nobody. and what is worse? russian gived as nife in back!
R4D01234 1 year ago
just kidding?
Germany 1.09.39 Russia 17.09.39
Do you watching ,, Soviet Story``??
kwamik 1 year ago
@kwamik I don't true is that they gived as nive in back and now they call themeselfes heroes, If germany didn't attack russians, russians never attacked germany, and that's it they retrait, and nothing more
R4D01234 1 year ago
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kwamik 1 year ago
ok . dobra robota. To było do knezevic31
kwamik 1 year ago
@knezevic31 Communism is the same as fascism!!! You don't know this? One difference is that that fascist are nationalists and communism were internationalist. But everything was the same, that is why when Hitler dissolved communistic party in German all communists from this party were sing up to NSDAP. Pleas man write some books. You know I'm politologist I'm Polish so I know history of my country, two of my grandfathers fought in this war one was with Second Polish Army fighting for Berlin.
GregorMar 1 year ago
@knezevic31 Who attacked Poland first??? Hitler sing with Stalin: Hitler-Stalin pact and they divide Poland between IIIrd Reich and ZSRR before war started!!! And Hitler strike on 1st September and Russians put knife into our backs on 17th September! And we were still fighting but then against two invaders!!! And Russian murdered over 30 thousand Polish officers just bcoz they were Poles! That was they only crime! Bcoz they were Poles the get shot in the back of their head!
GregorMar 1 year ago
@knezevic31 16 millions russian soldiers give there life for enslavement the Midden Europe (Poland Hungary, Czechs, and others).
Skorpion841 1 year ago
no russian dont started the ww2
knezevic31 1 year ago
@knezevic31 Better learn history Russians together with Germans invaded Poland in 1939 Germans on the 1st September and Russians on the 17th September 1939. Start learning history
GregorMar 1 year ago
@GregorMar sure.. it´s better to detain the Germans in Poland than in Moscow...
knezevic31 1 year ago
@knezevic31 But they didn't detain Germans in Poland! They detain them under Moscow and also bcoz us Poles bcoz it is us who broke down Enigma code! And we gave 2 Enigmas with their codes to Great Britain and British inform Russians where Germans will strike! We hade the biggest resistance in Europe! And what Russians did? At first they invade us hand by hand with Germans and then they stole half of my country! We lose over 12 million people in WWII 1/3 of our population!
GregorMar 1 year ago
@GregorMar
i´m from Serbia and know who helped my country...
Serbs killed 50000polish people (in serbia) why? because they have helped then Ustasas, why? one religion and Vatikans diabolical taktik in ww2! so ask me why was a Paps from Poland? Johannes Paul II in year 1978?? :) to chras cimmunism? for more hate against russian ppl?? this is not Poland ... sry for my bad english
knezevic31 1 year ago
@knezevic31 What stupid things you telling me? Hmmm? What 50.000 Poles Serbs were killed? From where Poles found themselves on Balkans???? Polish solders through Romania try to go to France and they fight there with Germans and then after evacuation to England they fought in battle of Narvik and in Battle of England. For God's sake stop telling such stupid things and learn history. Pope was from Poland bcoz God want this and he prepare such way for this great and holy man. And he free us. Hello
GregorMar 1 year ago
@knezevic31 Aaaaa... So if You are from Serbia then now everything is clear... I have no mo question why you are so fall in love with Russians... Hhahahaha... But the most funny thing is that that you love them so much but YOU DON'T KNOW THEM!!! Hahahahaha. Your Russians always plot with Germans against us and other nations in middle Europe. When they try to invade us alone then we always kick their asses for example in 1921. That is why the invade us in 1939 together with Germans!
GregorMar 1 year ago
@GregorMar the problem is poland hate russian how the croats hate the serbs
this is your religion man..
vatikan is the shit and i know why...
why is poland katholik? start from the begin! are Russians blame again? if Poland is stronger than Russia what make the Americans weapons in Poland :) or Poland must act this because German says it? ohh :(
and russians and serbs are brother during every war!
knezevic31 1 year ago
@knezevic31 I told You what is the problem! Russians always plot with Germans against us! They destroyed Poland together with Germans and Austrians in 18 century and then they invade us hand by hand with Hitler. What you say to me some craps about Vatican? Jesus are you sick or something? I don't care about any Vatican, for me the most important thing is Poland not any Vatican, I believe in God not in Vatican, do you have some mania on this issue?
GregorMar 1 year ago
@knezevic31 I'm serious and if you want to talk then be serious too and don't tell me such crap that here in Poland is some American weapon BCOZ THERE IS ANY AMERICAN WEAPON HERE! THERE IS NO AMERICANS HERE! And Polish military budget is 17 billion dollars and Russian budget is now 25 billion dollars and we have 120 thousand solders and they 900 thousand so you think that it is enough for so many solders? They HAVE NO MONEY FOR ARMY! Open your eyes! Stop watching Russian propaganda!
GregorMar 1 year ago
@GregorMar how much does a Russian soldier earn? Not so much like one in the west. But for the relations in Russia this totally reaches
knezevic31 1 year ago
@knezevic31 You think that solders in Russia will be fighting for rise like Chinese solders? Russians have Chines on their head now, and China will care for Russia don't be worry. And as to solders we have 120 occupational solders and Russians still have their 18 year old boys... so... Did you watched movies from Grozny from the end of nineteen nineties? If not then you should see how many those young boys dead there in fights with Chechnyan solders fighting from years.
GregorMar 1 year ago
@knezevic31 Yehhhh you Serbs are their brother??? hahahahaha Rusuans HAVE NO BROTHERS there are ONLY RUSSIANS!!! This is te issue! You don't know Russians AT ALL! Ukrainians learn their lesson what is Russian rule where Russians killed over 10 millions Ukrainian people in the nineteen thirties. But if you Serbs love them so much then I wish you know them closer but don't cry after this hahahaha, we know them sine 500 years and you don't know them at all...
GregorMar 1 year ago
@knezevic31 And you want to know why Poland is Catholics? We were ALWAYS Catholics. Poland was baptised in the 966 from Czechs! And Germans and Vatican have nothing common with this! The more we accept Christianity from Czechs bcoz we didn't want to take it from Germans, those was our chose! And Rus was baptised in 988.
GregorMar 1 year ago
@GregorMar yeah but the Czechs have it from the Germans same shit...
russian have no money for army? hahah it´s ok
I wish you lot of fun in NATO maybe in Iran or Afganistan :D hope your ppl enjoy it to kill for america ^^ and oil... peace i´m out
knezevic31 1 year ago
@knezevic31 And from where you have yours? From Greeks the SAME SHIT! They fuck themselves there guys fucks with guys and you accept Christianity from them, THE SAME SHIT, so now you happy? I can use also plenty such "sweet" words if you like. Or start talking seriously without rude words using arguments not "shit" words OK? And please remind me what Russians did in Afghanistan between 1980-98? They were there on vacations? Hmmmm? ...
GregorMar 1 year ago
@GregorMar but remind me what England and Spain did in America to the Indians and the west crusaders... its to deep man and we Slavc ppl hate the West countrys..
The Polenish king sent no help 1389 to the Serbians. But later to the German and Austria and what was with Polish kingdom after the victory in Vienna? Vatika said a thank you?The Serbians would have high celebrated Polish ppl like the Russians today... what the Russians have made in the Afgahnistan? is this a reason you copy? damn
knezevic31 1 year ago
@knezevic31 England and Spain have nothing common with this matter. keep straight int this issue don't jump here and there OK.And don't say "Slavic" ppl who hate West countries bcoz for example Poles have the highest amounts of SLAVIC genes R1a And Slaves are also Czechs, Slovakians, Croats, Slovenians not only Serbs and Russians my dear, If you wish I may send you sources where you will see who is "bigger" Slav.
GregorMar 1 year ago
@GregorMar my first comment was "damn brothe vs brother" You have what against it.. Me not... and just thin abut it why Poles Croats Slovenians Czechs hate Serbs Russians Bulgars Makedonians one thing religion :O???
knezevic31 1 year ago
@knezevic31 You thinking that we hate Russians bcoz religion? Hahahahaha NO!!! We hate them bcoz of they did to us over 200 years! They wanted to destroy us hand by hand with Germans and Austrians. NOT BCOZ OF RELIGION! For example my grandmother was born in Russia in small village near Moscow! my fathers family has roots on Ukraine and my mother father was born in Belarus!
GregorMar 1 year ago
@knezevic31 In Poland were many religions. We hate them bcoz they do everything to destroy Poland and killed Poles! I tell You Russians have no brothers and you telling this bcoz you don't know them.
GregorMar 1 year ago
@knezevic31 As for 1389 my dear we were fighting with Germanic Teutonic Knights! And Serbs didn't send no help also! So what argument is this???? And after Vienna as I remember Serbs also were so happy that we crushed Turks... But we shouldn't do this our King should strike not for Vienna but for Russia! If you don't remember what Russians did in Afghanistan then maybe you should watch again Rambo 3 there is all story about what they did there.
GregorMar 1 year ago
@GregorMar fighting with germans ohh and russians ok... :D
rambo 3 come on man this is an american film dont watch so much movis man xD
Serbians wanted aid of other Christian countries. We thought it goes around completely europa not only around Kosovo..., however, central issues Slaven died again more than German (what a destiny)
about Turk Russia wars we dont need to talk, they were bad..
knezevic31 1 year ago
@knezevic31 Listen don't make me laugh you want to tell me that you didn't heard in Serbia about Soviet invasion on Afghanistan 1980-89???? Hahahahah... Rambo 3 is telling about this war or maybe it is just movie? hahahahaha... Yeh you are really funny now. And did you watch Russian movie The 9th company? So what Soviets were there??? Please TELL ME :-))))
GregorMar 1 year ago
@GregorMar yo Soviet not Russian invasion :( The 9th company hmm i dont watch movies man :) its not good this is like median crap
knezevic31 1 year ago
@knezevic31 Ooooo... And who were Soviets? What nation is this brothers of Nazi? Soviets=Russians and Nazists=Germans not only Soviets or Nazists those people originate from some nations not from Mars man. If you didn't watched this movie then you should try to find some samples on YouTube.
GregorMar 1 year ago
@GregorMar Soviet are the ppl from 15 repobliks in Soviet Union
Soviet is a Russian word it´s mean World or People Union of Socialist ppl not only russians... its like nato, american kill ppl in irak for oil and poland must do it to, its a union :) same s*** but Udssr is dead and NATO is now! year 2010 this is democracy... democracy is the cousin from nazism and communism...
knezevic31 1 year ago
@knezevic31 No my dear it is the biggest lie no one wanted to be in USSR it is Russia changed their name from Rusian Empire on USSR if we dint fought with then and won great Polish-Soviet war in 1920-1921 then Poland will be the 17th republic of USSR! There were Russian of course Stalin was half Georgian half Pole, Dzierżyński was Pole, Lenin was Jew but this was Russian country, and Russians were people who were the main strenght of USSR like Germans were main strenght of the IIIrd Reich.
GregorMar 1 year ago
@knezevic31 Nato was force of which should to stand against Warsaw Pact if there Cold war will changed on Hot war. You know what I don't love USA I love only Poland and I don't believe that USA will help us if there will be were between us and Russians but maybe they will give us some tanks and planes but they will not fight against Russians, also Germans and French will not help us, but every other allays Czechs, Hungarians, Croats, Norway, British will help us.
GregorMar 1 year ago
@knezevic31 I'm historian and politologist that is why I think that only respond should be Slavic federation: Poland, Balts, Belarusians, Ukrainians, Czechs, Slovenians, Croats, Slovenians, Hungarians, Moldavians, Romanians, Finis, Bulgarians. Even Serbs if they will want but nothing by force, if You will want then Yes if no then no. it's your choice. This would be the best way then it will be us Slavs people who will be rule them selves not Germans, Americans or Russians in this part of Europe.
GregorMar 1 year ago
@GregorMar
Hungarians, Balts and Romanians aren't slavs.
fellinian 1 year ago
@fellinian I didn't say that they are Slavs, read what I wrote. I wrote that they will be part of federation if they will want, and Hungarians like Poles very much as the same Balts, Romanians are also frendly.
GregorMar 1 year ago
@GregorMar
Well, all europeans countries are frendly, fortunelly, I can't understand why you need this federation, it is out of history.
fellinian 1 year ago
@fellinian If You think so... But we don't think so we had our historic lessons about this. And I would like to have such middle European federation bcoz we don't want to be ruled by Germans and French or by Russians. I think other countries as Czechs, Slovakians, Balts, even Croats don't want to only listen what Germans and French will say or wait for Russians, You don't understand what we feel here when Germans and Russians conducts negotiations for example about Baltic pipe.
GregorMar 1 year ago
@fellinian And it's not out of history did You ever heard about Polish-Lithuanian-Ruthenian Commonwealth? Did You heard about Polish kings ruled in Sweden, Poland-Lithuania in Czechs and in Hungary? We all have historical commons here.
GregorMar 1 year ago 16
how the fuck did u come up with polish lithuanian -ruthenian commonwealth. Study...
Vessemir 1 year ago
@Vessemir Tak się koleś składa że ty powinieneś postudiowac. Czytałeś ty kiedy pakcta conventa? Tam jednym z warunków stawianych królowi była budowa państwa składającego się z trzech Polski, Litwy i Rusi. A Rzeczypospolita trojga narodów została ustanowiona po powstaniach Chmielnickiego zawarto tzw. Unię Hadziacką! A potem raz jeszcze powrócono do tego podczas powstania Styczniowego zawierając tzw. II Unię Horodelską. So... Study, yes STUDY, but yourself!
GregorMar 1 year ago
Pokaz mi jeden dokument gdzie bylaby mowa o istnieniu rp trojga narodow... cos takiego nigdy nie istniajo. To byl tylko pomysl.
Vessemir 1 year ago
@Vessemir Czy ty masz problemy z czytaniem czy tylko z rozumieniem tekstu czytanego? Oczywiście dokument to Unia Hadziacka – zawarta 16 września 1658 roku w Hadziaczu umowa między Rzeczpospolitą Obojga Narodów a Kozackim Wojskiem Zaporoskim, reprezentowanym przez hetmana kozackiego Iwana Wyhowskiego.
GregorMar 1 year ago
Boze Swiety ogarnij sie czlowieku.
"cos takiego nigdy nie istniajo. To byl tylko pomysl."
zeby daleko nie szukac, wikipedia: PROJEKT polityczny przekształcenia federacji Korony Królestwa Polskiego i Wielkiego Księstwa Litewskiego tworzącej Rzeczpospolitą Obojga Narodów
Rzeczpospolita zgodziła się formalnie na powołanie, nowego, trzeciego członu unii, jakim miało być Księstwo Ruskie. W 1658 zawarto unię hadziacką.
BYLO JUZ JEDNAK ZA POZNO NA REALIZACJE TYCH PLANOW.
koncze ta dyskusje.
Vessemir 1 year ago
@Vessemir Facet powiedz mi ty się dobrze czujesz czy nie? To było ZREALIZOWANE bo umowę ZAWARTO! ZAWARTO! Kumasz czy może słowo zbyt trudne do zrozumienia? Jak coś zawarto to TO ISTNIAŁO! tak samo jak KONSTYTUCJA 3 MAJA. Tak na marginesie jestem prawnikiem z drugim fakultetem historyka i politologa więc na twoje nieszczęście drogie dziecko o ważności umów międzynarodowych oraz kiedy i jak umowa wchodzi w życie wiem lepiej od ciebie.
GregorMar 1 year ago
@Vessemir To że trwała wojna Polsko-Moskiewska a potem Moskwa zajeła większość Rusi wraz z Kijowem to inna para kaloszy. Umowa weszła w życie i obowiązywała tylko większość tego co miało być 3 członem RP został zajęty przez Rosję. Dotarło? Tak samo jak we wspomnianej już konstytucji 3 maja... Serio uwielbiam takie przemądrzałe ogóreczki jak ty które piszą tekst z wikipedii nie rozumiejąc nawet znaczenia przepisanych słów które mówią "w 1658 zawarto unię hadziacką"
GregorMar 1 year ago
Sam napisałeś "co miało byc"...zaprzeczasz sam sobie. To bylo, czy nie, ha?
"W 1658 zawarto unię hadziacką.
Było już jednak za późno na realizację tych planów."
I to niby ja nie czytam dokładnie. Zawarto, ale do realizacji nie doszło, proste. Istnial to projekt, a nie sama RP trojga narodow. A twoje wyksztalcenie malo mnie interesuje :]
Vessemir 1 year ago
@Vessemir Ręce opadają. Chłopie raz jeszcze może za 3 razem dotrze. Umowa ZOSTAŁA PODPISANA I STAŁA SIĘ FAKTEM. Trwało to tylko kilka miesięcy bo w wyniku wojny i pokoju Polska odstąpiła Moskwie na DWA LATA część ukrainy z Kijowem który miał być stolicą trzeciego członu. Za póżno było na realizację włąsnie w tym względzie bo ta część Ukrainy która miała być Wielkim Księstwem Ruskim ODPADŁA OD POLSKI! ALE UMOWA WESZŁA W ŻYCIE Z CHWILĄ PODPISANIA! Dotarło? jasniej już się nie da
GregorMar 1 year ago
No to tak, teoretycznie była, praktycznie nie!
Vessemir 1 year ago
@Vessemir Istniała i była faktem kilkanaście miesięcy, dłużej niż konstytucja 3 maja. nie ma znaczenia dla umowy czy trwała ona 1 dzień czy 100 lat. Zaistnienie jest faktem tak jak unia Polsko-Szwedzka, czy nawet Unia Polsko-Rosyjska. Tak na marginesie to istniał związek 3 państw już wcześniej gdy razem z polską i Litwą lennem był Nowogród Wielki. niestety o tym na wikipedii chyba nie ma to też się zdziwisz bo w szkole o tym nie uczą. Jak pójdziesz na studiach na historię to może coś powiedzą
GregorMar 1 year ago
Lenno to jednak nie "pelnoprawny sojusznik".
A co do studiow. Wybieram sie na Archeologie. Imo ciekawsza od historii. Dzieki dobranoc.
Vessemir 1 year ago
@Vessemir Lenno to więcej niż sojusznik bo część podległa bezwarunkowo. A Nowogród i Nowogrodzianie nawet buntowali się przeciw rżadom władców z Moskwy chcąc powrócić do związku z Polską. niestety my nie wykazywaliśmy w tamtych czasach zbytniego zainteresowania. A Iwan IV groźny po buncie nowogrodu który błagał Polskę o pomoc spalił Nowogród i wymordował 100 tysięcy Nowogrodzian... A my na to pozwoliliśmy bo oni wzniecili bunt licząc że Polska im pomoże. Archeologia fajna rzecz gratuluję.
GregorMar 1 year ago
Em Prusy Ksiazece tez byly polskim lennem.
Vessemir 1 year ago
@Vessemir Tak do czasu potopu 1657 gdy Polska SAMA ZWOLNIŁA JE Z ZALEŻNOŚCI LENNEJ pod groźbą, że Brandeburgia przystąpi do wojny z Polską po stronie Szwedów. Głupio zrobiliśmy bo wojnę wtedy już wygrywaliśmy a Prusy nie mogły zagrozić Polsce, ale zgodzono się na rezygnację.
GregorMar 1 year ago
@Vessemir Fajniejsza jest historia,ale archeologia też może być.Te dwie dziedziny się uzupełniają.
ginterka381996 1 year ago
@GregorMar " Did You heard about Polish kings ruled in Sweden"
No i havent heard about that before, Why? Because there havent been any Polish kinds ruling Sweden! However, There was a Swedish King that ruled both Sweden and Poland for a short while before he was kicked out from Sweden because he was an chatolic, Sweden back then and today are protestantic.
joonte1010 11 months ago
@joonte1010 My dear at first Zygmunt III Waza was half Polish and half Swedish coz his father was Swedish king and his mother was daughter of Polish king that is why he could became POLISH KING. First know facts then talk. And I wrote that "Polish king who ruled in Sweden" coz FIRST HE BECAME KING OF POLAND IN 1587 and then IN 1592 his father - king of Sweden - Jan III died and then he became king of Sweden. So POLISH KING BECAME KING OF SWEDEN! Not king of Sweaden became king of Poland!
GregorMar 11 months ago
@GregorMar He was a Swedish king from a Swedish bloodline, The Vasa bloodline. That bloodline continued to rule Poland for a while after he was kicked out from Sweden. The reason why hes father married the daughter of a Polish King was because he wanted hes son to rule both Nations, But the people in Sweden didnt want chatolism and therefor kicked him out. He returned to Poland as a broken man and accourding to history books became weird and such.
joonte1010 11 months ago
@joonte1010 No my dear he had also POLISH Jagiellonian KINGS BLOOD, his mother was Katarzyna Jagiellonka daughter of Polish king Sigmunt Stary (Sigismund I the Old) do you have only blood of your father? LOL. And as I told You first he became POLISH KING so POLISH KING BECAME SWEDISH KING NOT INVERSELY, don't be a retard. It is a fact so take it or live it. His father Jan II wanted that Catholics and protestants be closer. In Poland it was possible but Swedish nobles were too shortsightedness.
GregorMar 11 months ago
@GregorMar Dont call me dear, You faggot.
joonte1010 11 months ago
@joonte1010 You are fucking faggot YOU FUCKING RETARD!
GregorMar 11 months ago
@GregorMar And you look like a fucking Pig, No wonder why your homosexual.
joonte1010 11 months ago
@joonte1010 And you scare even to show your fucking face coz you're sucking negro's cock right now and swallowing his cum, you faggot. I'm more handsome then you will ever be. Now I talk with your language? You like this it turns you on???
GregorMar 11 months ago
@GregorMar You look like a chubby little whale, How in hell can you look more "handsome" then a Scandinavian?
joonte1010 11 months ago
@joonte1010 Uhahaha really funny and now go to school and tell this to your biology teacher he will have so great fun as me :-))) Write more about DNA and you will know that from all parent you have 50% of genes, in other case you are a mutant :-))) hahahaha
GregorMar 11 months ago
@GregorMar You look like a Mutant, And if you dont have any knowledge about genetics and DNA i suggest you to look it up instead and read about it instead of making yourself look stupid.
joonte1010 11 months ago
@joonte1010 ups sorry you were talking to mirror? You must be a mutant if you talking like this, it shows that you have any knowledge. You know you are strong in this show me your face, I see only empty old helmet I see it is your symbol? Uhahahaha Show me your real mug don't be shy :-) And go back to primary school for biology lessons UHAHAHAHAHAHA I just can't from laugh uhahahahahahha my GOD! I didn't laugh so much from so long time uhahahahaha
GregorMar 11 months ago
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@joonte1010 ps sorry you were talking to mirror? You must be a mutant if you talking like this, it shows that you have any knowledge. You know you are strong in this show me your face, I see only empty old helmet I see it is your symbol? Uhahahaha Show me your real mug don't be shy :-) And go back to primary school for biology lessons UHAHA I just can't from laugh uhaha my GOD! I didn't laugh so much from so long time uhahaha
GregorMar 11 months ago
@joonte1010 ups sorry you must be talking to mirror? You must be a mutant if you talking like this, it shows that you have any knowledge. You know you are strong in this show me your face, I see only empty old helmet I see it is your symbol? Uhahahaha Show me your real mug don't be shy :-) And go back to primary school for biology lessons UHAHA I just can't from laugh uhahaha my GOD! I didn't laugh so much from so long time uhaha from such fannyboy as you.
GregorMar 11 months ago
@joonte1010 ups sorry you must be talking to mirror? You must be a mutant if you talking like this, it shows that you have any knowledge. You know you are strong in this show me your face, I see only empty old helmet I see it is your symbol? Uhahahaha Show me your real mug don't be shy :-) And go back to primary school for biology lessons UHAHA I just can't from laugh uhahaha my GOD! I didn't laugh so much from so long time uhaha from such fannyboy as you.
GregorMar 11 months ago