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  • Am I the only one who defends abortion?

  • 14 idiots are pro lifers who paid for an abortion.

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  • @GameICY If you strongly oppose abortion, then don't have one.

  • Look at the comment by "AddictiveDisease" below. She says she watched (via ultrasound) an unborn baby trying to pull away while being torn apart by a "pro-choice" abortion. "AddictiveDisease" says she is "still pro-choice".  This is the type of conscience hardening that "pro-choice" groups want to see in everyone. Once you can witness such human barbarism and no longer care, the conscience is difficult to repair. That is a victory for the "pro-choice" groups.

  • This guy also apparently used some charity to fly to Cuba and spend six days going to bars, strip clubs, and the Havana Cigar Festival. He "donated" medical supplies worth 9 grand. Thing is, that's disputed by evidence and witnesses. Once again, the evidence is overwhelming. In that case, the medical center he says he visited in Cuba didn't exist. Also, the claimed donation was never made according to witnesses. Class act. He's run for Congress four times and lost four times.

    -Joe E Dangerously

  • For fuck sakem save the stuff about killing a life. Sure abortion wouldb't be a choice for me but they can't force women to have kids against their will! And even if they ban it, women will still get abortions uding coat hangers! At least have proper medical facilities. It's more about women's rights to decide what to do with their bodies! If they don't want abortion fucking promote condoms.

  • Guess what? I'm pro-life and none of my girlfriends have ever had an abortion! If a person is responsible, then they don't have to even consider abortion in the first place. This wouldn't even be an issue.

  • typical conservative hypocrasy! It only matters when it benefits them!

  • in the video "silent scream" they fail to tell the viewer that the fetus at the time had no full neural development and was incapable of feeling pain at all. the jerking action was a combination of the tool being used and spinal reflexes.

    the line between abortion and murder is birth. this is how we define it, this is how it applies moraly. the difference between theft and purchasing is the exchange of money, yet they are completely different. same thing here.

  • "we dont need to kill our unborns. we want them to grow up and fight our wars."

  • excuse my grammatical errors there- it's just such nonsense that only certain types of murder are legal. Draw a fucking line.

  • Uhm are you retarded, do you actually think something being illegal means it goes away?

  • No one reading this knows, first hand, how much pain the human fetus feels while being aborted...because none of us were aborted. But if you are "pro-choice", take time to watch a sonogram of an actual abortion. (They are rare to view. But one, from the 1980s, is on YouTube: "Silent Scream part 3".) You see the fetus respond to touch as the abortionist begins to kill her. You see how her body is crushed up by the

    pro-choice abortion machine. How much pain did she feel? Judge for yourself.

  • @kweer58

    My Body.

    My Life.

    My Uterus.

    My Choice.

    I watched it. I'm still pro-choice. Have a nice day.

  • does he like make these stories up?? i mean he just randomly talks about someone and makes it news...where does he get these stories from...stupid

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  • you wanna talk about hypocrisy?

    how about when liberals tell me not to drink bottled water or eat at mcdonalds but yet somehow support killing babies?

  • huh?

  • ABORTION:

    is an ILLEGAL HOMICIDE of INNOCENT BABIES

    by KILLERS and CRAZY people

  • One standard for ouselves and another for everyone else is a common theme with people today. Don't blast him for not being man enough to escort her into the clinic. He should have been man enough to admit he had contributed to the creation of another life and taken responsibilty for that life. Better yet, he should have been responsible enough to have never caused a pregnancy he didn't want to be a part of.

    CG

  • I am pro life and i save all my sperms in a can and put it in the freezer for latter use. life is cool

  • MrRightAllTime - Be very careful - don't come home drunk one night and tuck into the that "Icecream" in the freezer by mistake.

  • Why bother? Sperm aren't human.

  • pro life is a public stunt covering for religious propaganda.

  • How so?

  • These pro-life people are bullshit. If you think contraception should be legal, you're not pro-life. Why would you want abortion to be illegal, but not contraception?

    Still, being wrong on one issue doesn't mean the Republicans are wrong on all issues, or the main issues, like this "jesuslovejudah" seems to think. Regardless of his position on abortion, please vote for McCain 2008!

  • it is the main reason to vote for him. without life we dont have anything, and we will never have peace in the world if we cant even have peace in the womb.

  • Regardless of what the main reason to vote on McCain may been for you, my main reason to vote for McCain would have been the economical opinions he claims to represent. However, to support him is not the same as to agree with him in every opinion. Why do not Christian conservatives want to criminalize contraception while they're fighting to keep abortion illegal? Isn't contraception also sinful - at least as far as the Vatican is concerned?

  • first of all, pro-life isnt necessarily a christian doctrine. christopher hitchens, nat hentoff and james matthew wallace are all pro-life atheists. and it's not that its a sin, it's murder, whether or not god existed. life beginning at conception has been a fact for the last 20 years of embryology. My gay and agnostic friend studied it as part of his undergrad of molecular biology. You dont have to believe in God to be against the abortion holocaust.

  • Even though not expressed in my text, the target of my criticism was exclusively those of Christian pro-life advocates, who say they condemn both abortion and contraception, but do not see a contradiction in legally allowing one of them and criminalizing the other.

  • And though we agree that it is murder, unconditionally criminalizing all murder is not legally that simple. One of the inevitable consequences of unconditionally criminalizing murder is to criminalize murder of oneself - suicide. Then again, justifying this consequence is all you need to convince me.

  • you're talking about roman catholics. and i dont know the answer. maybe its because a prohibition on contraception has to do with private religious dogma, where as pro-life is just common sense and already proven in non-religious terms, so there's much more at stake.

  • In that case, it's far from obvious to me why prohibition of contraception is not included into this common sense. Also, their common sense is not necessarily the same as my common sense, and as I interpret "proven", that's nothing more than a matter of valid inference. Unless we allow accept a legal prohibition for all murder including suicide, murder alone is not a sufficient condition for legal prohibition.

  • suicide is against the law, only the circumstances surrounding it make it hard to punish anyone for it. what are you gonna do? give them the death penalty?

  • If suicide is against the law, then it's not clear to me which law you're referring to. It's not at least the law of my country that you're talking about.

    You're not acknowledging laws which prohibit attempts of murder. If these laws do not extend to suicide, then the law does not treat suicide equally to murder.

  • suicide isnt murder. its suicide. murder is homicide, when someone murders another person, by euthanasia, abortion or any other means

  • If suicide isn't murder, then your previous post about the legal status of suicide was unnecessary. Either way, the reason why murder would only apply to another person is far from clear to me. If we spoke in my native language, Swedish, then it would surely not be helpful to know that in Swedish, suicide is "självmord" - that is, self-murder.

  • okay, for us, its sui-cide = self killing and homi- cide = killing of another. the latter being murder, the former being its own category

  • Even so, the aforementioned conclusion of yours is still far from clear to me.

  • republicans are fucking liars and are anti-christ muthafuckas who lie about god to make them feel more superior than others. god gave us common sense and the freedom to do whatever we want as long as we are caring towards each other.

  • man, politicians are such liars!!

  • you are clearly pro-food

  • I think YouTube is a better venue for them... it's also CHEAPER!!! Muahahahahahahahaha!!!

  • Discusting, and she went woth him after that? Wow, her self esteem must me like 30 feet below.

  • yeah. her self esteem hangs out with your IQ.

  • learn tolerance hughster, learn tolerance!

    what 1 does in 1's bedroom is none of your damned business, unless of course you're curious & want a piece of the action. you haven't the courage to come out of your closet that's your problem.

    i have to laugh at your attempt to justify hate & bigotry. the more you write, the less i have to say little about who you are!

    unlike good christians, i'd never pray you go to heaven. hell is your just reward!

    stop hating, you'll feel better!

  • hughster, i have no fued with you, the world does. i'd advise everyone to look at your profile (unless you've deleted it) to see just who the real hater is here.

    your comments display ignorance, bigotry, hate and an inability for tolerance. those are traits so called "christians" display.

    why do you hate so much? why does homosexuality bother you? who the hell do you think you are to pass judgement on people you know nothing about?

    again, you're a self loathing closeted gay!

  • 1st hughster, many have commented re. your demented views on everyone not in agreement with you. you've as hateful a person there is in this country without being part of the ayrian nation.

    2nd i don't bash christians & you're not a person who really understands written english that takes brains. go back & check what i've said. take time to read properly!

    you don't just have issues with me! you have them with EVERYONE. just look at your profile with the hate & ignorance you display!

  • You have been exposed for the insane misgynoist you are. I doubt you even know what that word means. You are an insane person who hates women and wants us all to die of coathanger abortions. If you do not want me to respond to you and your stupid unintelligent insulting ways then do not write back. You have to use swear words to get your point across how sad.

  • " Misogynist" the hatred of women, you spelled it wrong! I only used 1 cuse word and you really are a monster to think of children that way!

  • You spelled "cuse" wrong. I do not think of children that way. I think of fetii that way. You insulted me and you were a straight up jerk. You insulted gays and made a fool of yourself hughster.

  • There is something even wronger with your way of thinking my dear.

  • Your the scared one! lol!

  • There is nothing wrong with being gay but there is obviously something wrong with you.

  • First of all who are we to put someone to death? The fetus is invading the mothers body and she has the right to remove it. The fetus is not innocent it is using the mothers body against her will. You obviously hate women if you want abortion to be illegal. You want us all to stab ourselves to death with coat hangers don't you? Give me a straight answer!

  • Maybe your mother should of aborted you. Very pro-life of you!

  • Maybe. But she didn't. In your case though, there are no maybes about it, your mother DEFINITELY should have aborted your retarded conservative ass.

  • We can't post links here. Try searching for Washington post Iraq civilian death toll for example. Or maybe do a search for Iraq million refugees. After you read up on the facts you can apologize for wasting our time with your pointless comments.

  • Hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children are dead and millions more are refugees with no jobs or homes. Mothers and young daughters (some as young as single digits) work in the sex trade to stay alive. Last time I checked, that's not what I'd call "freedom".

  • "Don't try to justify abortion you liberal fuck" - Wow...that's classy, even for a conservative.

  • He's a republican. Don't they mostly lie anyway? Remember republican larry craig having homosexual sex in a public washroom.

  • Morals? LOL Oh, its wrong to have an abortion but right to kill unborn Iraquies, Iraqui children, and their parents, because the civilians are just collateral damage? Jesus would say that you are wrong. Murder is murder. If you are going to be a Christian then live it instead of just talking it. Pray in the closet and not in public as Jesus told.

  • Most Republicans are two faced. How could anyone not know this. When a Replican is speaking you sit there and say BLAH BLAH BLAH. They do not even believe the words that comes out of their mouths.

  • ha, hughster, i love you comment. it's so typical of intolerant, bigoted "christians".

    you so eloquently demonstrated the truth behind disgusting "christians".

    keep it up, you just expose yourself for what you truly are, white trash scum. i sit high above you and use you for my personal toilet!

  • Did you listen to what he was saying? He is talking about sinners who don't pray in their closet but in the public square and then commit the sins they preach against.

  • He didn't get her pregnant, he just has a wide stance

  • That is so funny.

  • Love your heart, Cenk. I mean...just BE there; hold her hand. This is really very sad.

  • I'm sure that he represents some White Trash stronghold in Oregon.

  • Well come on, he is a pro person.....pro liar....so repuglican, is he not?

  • Ted Haggard NEVER HAD SEX WITH THAT MAN !

    ....er, actually, sex drugs and rock n' roll is the norm. for Haggard and his republican associates ( Bush included)

  • Bwa ha ha ha ha ha !

    Hypocrit Republican turds.

  • what a low life he is! he is 50% responsible for the pregnancy, and sounds like he was at least 50% responsible for the abortion. i don't care whether they were officially boyfriend and girlfriend or not-irrelevant.

  • Filthy, Stinking Nazi Bastards. They are opposed to abortion but they are also opposed to sex education, freely available contraceptives, sex before marriage, sex during marriage except for the purpose of procreation - in fact they are opposed to sex all together and the only weapon they have to wield is the threat to anyone who has sex that WE WILL DAMN WELL FORCE YOU TO BEAR ANY PREGNANCY THAT MIGHT RESULT. (But once that child is born we will deny it and you any medical care you might need)

  • Every single person who self identifies as a "Republican" is a lying, cheating, murdering, genocidal, torturing, greedy, selfish, ignorant, treasonous, bastard. Every single one of them. Civilization and progress and peace and justice will come to the USA when the last Republican is strangled with the entrails of the last fundamentalist [insert any/all religion(s) here].

  • bushisthedevil, i would amend the party's name from "republican" to "christian"republican.

    many former good republicans left the party in disgust when this bunch of lying, hating, ignorant bigots hyjacked it for their own purposes based on two issues, anti-abortion & gay rights. now remember no where in the bible does it specifically mention these issues, mostly the bible asks humanity to love and care for each other...something these bastards completely ignore. they prefer to spread hate!

  • wait a minute - she goes into a crack house and he gives her money - just to help her out she was having financial difficulties....both sides lie so much.....

  • LOL That's hilarious

  • Bob Barr (libertarian nominee) did the same thing

  • what an effing hypocrite!!

  • Sounds like a real stand-up guy......dick munch!

  • Why is it the puritans are always the one's that get cought with their pants down.

  • They're pro-life until THEY are confronted with an unwanted pregnancy.

    They're all for the free market and "rugged individualism and Social Darwinism" until THEY are hit with hard times.

  • Further proof that repulicans lack intelligence

  • If this guy were smart, he would have used the abortion as a platform for his stance. Something like, "It's precisely because of this personal situation and confronting my own actions that brought me to a pro-life stance. I have personally been effected by 'pro-choice' and I want to help others not repeat my mistakes." Surely that would have been MUCH better than some BS transparent lies. He missed a great chance to strengthen his argument. I'm wondering... am I evil?

  • REPIGZ murder over a million Iraqis, and steal over $3 TRILLION.

    Giveaway over $12 TRILLION in Tax rebates, and increase the National Debt by $6 TRILLION.

  • fuck the repigz!!

  • Even though abortion is basically infanticide, the US Supreme Court deemed abortion rights as "constitutional". So I think that it's best if the right-wing get off this abortion kick, and focus on fiscal and governmental responsibility...like they USED to do advocate.

    "Render unto Caesar Caesar's, render unto God God's" can be translated as "Worry about your own damn self, jack!"

  • Being part of any organized religion is participation in ignorance.

  • And being a part of the so-called secular progressive movement breeds elite arrogance.

  • Nah, it just seems like arrogance when we don't take ridiculous, falacious, and uninformed arguments and people seriously. To you it seems arrogant, to us it seems natural.

  • No, it's just makes you a bigot...and a ridiculous one at that. If I were to say that synaptic activity is the definition of "life", and that this occurs shortly after conception, people like you would make up ridiculous, dialectical nonsense to justify the continuous of abortion due to being emotional tied to the issue. So, secular progressive can be arrogant because they THINK they are. Sad.

  • What's sad is people who watch Bill O'Reilly and use his right wing buzz phrase "secular progressive".

  • Yeah we THINK is an important point that you make. Bacteria don't have any synapses or neurological system at all but educated people still say they are alive. I think fetuses are alive too. Sperm and egg cells are alive before conception. I wouldn't advocate an abortion personally but we live in a democracy and most people agree that it should not be criminalized by the states.

    Secular progressives can be arrogant because they think they are? That doesn't make sense.

  • the only elite arrogance i see here dswynne is the likes of you lying, hating, ignorant bigots trying to impose your demented beliefs on otherwise good people.

    it's you people, and you people alone who have been giving christianity a bad name.

    keep your goddamned demented religious beliefs in your heart, home and church, and for fucking sure keep it out of my government!

    try hard to remember, your religion IS NOT MY GOVERNMENT!

  • Child, go to the little table; the adults are speaking now. :P

  • i expected such an answer only from ignorant bigots and haters dswynne!

  • One more thing. Not taking ridiculous, falacious, and uninformed arguments and people seriously makes me a ridiculous bigot? How exactly the fuck is that? If my child thinks his imaginary friend stole his cookie am I a ridiculous bigot when I don't immediately go out and try to find his friend and get his cookie back? You have absolutely no business trying to argue your views here. You don't understand the meaning of the words you use and you have no capacity for critical thought.

  • #1 Why are you guys talking about Jesus?? Who cares about your religious preference?

    #2 If this man is Christian he has some explaining to do to his maker because the last time I checked murder is against the commandments.

    Why is it OK for people who are right-wing Christians to go against what they preach and then go rub everyones face in it like they know whats best?? Hypocrites!!

  • He is not pro-life. He has been pro-choice for many years until changing this election cycle. He is a secular, non-Christian Republican with a business background. Several GOP leaders have refused to support him.

  • You got this story wrong. He has been pro-life for a while and rumors about this story have been around for a while.

    The main point is Erickson's hypocrisy and his lying about this whole event. Kevin Mannix, the challenger of Erickson in the Republican primary and first class slimeball, brought this story to full fruition by sending out a mailer concerning this whole event. Happily, this whole event put a possible Republican gain in the US House into a probable Democratic keep.

  • John McCain: "I want to reverse Roe Vs Wade".

    John McCain: "I don't want to reverse Roe vs Wade".

    Straight talk.

  • Jesus was not a bleeding heart liberal. He was the Son of God who came to restore the life of faith to His people Israel. The love of God He demonstrated toward all who came to Him, but He never compromised the Holiness of God. He came to call sinners to repentance, does that sound like a bleeding heart liberal? Liberals allow people to continue in sin while not calling them to repent. They say God accepts you just as you are. Matter of fact God is neither conservative or liberal. He is Holy.

  • To start with, I believe it's the libertarians who insist strictly on live and let live, but you also need to know that your view is one very particular view of Jesus that is NOT shared by many Christians.

  • Most Christians believe that Jesus was and is the Son of God! To believe anything else about Jesus is simply put anti-Christ and they have not been inspired by the Holy Spirit of God! To conclude that Jesus was a bleeding heart liberal is ludicris, and I am not talking about the rapper. Jesus was both tender and tough. Matter of fact, since Jesus has been exalted into heaven He is not some weak looking hyppie. He is compassionate but also brings judgment.

  • fothgt, for goddamned sure jesus was not a lying, hating, ignorant, intolerant bigot. that sir is an appropriate description of you fandamentalist so called "christians" and the closest description of "christian"republicans i have ever seen.

    again, go sell your bullshit to other stupid or ignorant southern bigots. the rest of the world is on to you and tired of your lies, hate and bullshit.

  • How do you know what Jesus is?Are you one of those voice hearing fools that talk to him.

  • At 2:35 is my favorite Cenk spontaneous laugh yet.

  • why is it the "Moral Majority" (for lack of a better term) filled with people who don't practice what they "preach"

    against gay rights=are closet homosexuals

    pro-life=abort the mistress' baby

    it's just hilarious that they will lobby for things that they don't believe in or anything that affects them

  • Agreed. The man can have whatever position he wants - it's a free country. But he's bound by that position then - End Of Story.

    And props to you for humanizing this, Cenk. It's not just political points being scored here, on a personal level this guy was just a creep to his girlfriend. There's nothing illegal about it, but he sure as shit should be called on it. The voters should expect the same treatment his girlfriend got.

  • Who soever points in judgment with a finger, has three times that many fingers pointing right back at themselves

    You know I'm right - every time

  • Bush forced his girlfriend to have an abortion.

  • Cenk, telling it like it is. God what I would give for politicians to be like Cenk.

  • Great video, but just like yesterday, why are you jumping to the conclusion that all Christians are Pro-life? Once again as a progressive Christian I gotta say, I agree with you on almost every issue Cenk, but I don't like being lumped in with fundamentalists.

    Sorry to go off like that, maybe I'm still raw from your Bill O'Reilly like intolerance of Christianity yesterday. We're not all conservatives you know... after all Jesus was a liberal.

  • Then maybe it's time you found your voice.

    You know why folks think all Muslims are crazy and violent? Because when we see riots over a Danish cartoon, or a stuffed toy named Mohammed, the moderates stay quiet.

    Silence is assent, in this case. If decent, moderate Christians don't start loudly claiming the public perception of their faith back from the fundamentalist whack jobs, you will all be viewed the same way in this country.

  • Who are these decent moderate Christians? Christians should be moderate, but at what cost? Christians led the Civil Rights Movement, then they were put on the back seat of the bus for feminism, gay rights, the sexual revolution. Evangelicals became the Empire Strikes Back. They are simply saying, we have a stake in this nations legacy. They have been able to prove the "wells of Democracy stem from our Judeo/Christian past." Have their been extremes, yes. But the cost may have been worth it.

  • southern fundamentalists foth, didn't lead the civil rights movement, they prevented it at every opportunity.

    after relegating blacks to the back of the bus for 150 years, for my money you bigots deserved those seats, not just behind blacks and women but far behind gays.

    the fundamentalist belief is to promote hate, ignorance, intolerance and bigotry. that's what they've done since their inception.

    go bullshit other ignorant southerners, not those aware of your past, you damned bigot!

  • So call shristians like foulwill,robertson,etc all fought against civil rights.Get your damn facts straight.

  • we jump to the conclusion, tmcroissant, that all christians are pro-life cause you've allowed the "christian"republican party to own the subject & speak for you.

    i haven't seen any of you speak up and tell this group of lying, bigoted, ignorant haters that they don't represent all christians.

    you've been sitting there mute for the past 14 years, letting them do all the talking for you. shame on you if you don't agree with them...shame on you!

  • Wow!! Rpublicans are so blatantly hypocritical. And how the hell can these right wing voters support douchebags like this guy?

    Like the whole Support the Troops thing they do. We MUST support the troops. So lets give 80238 gajillion dollars to KBR so they can build military barracks that are so horrible that homeless people wouldn't want to sleep in them.

  • Awesome clip Cenk, I love it. This is the worst kind of hypocrite. The people who yell the loudest about how we need to behave in our personal lives are the first to do the opposite in theirs.

  • what? why? he's just pointing out that whoever this dude was is a hypocrite.

  • And nothing of value was lost...

  • hehe so right

  • you calm down now little spazz jroberts no one really gives a fine fiddles fuck what ya do cause no one knows you so you go unsub and cry in a corner now alright bye bye

  • i won't cry...just maybe pout a little when my subscription page isn't so full anymore.

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