Stonehenge and the Druids: Stonehenge and Bluestonehenge

[markandrach]

stonehenge has no connection to druids

its just new age bullshit that connects it

[rusalkadust]

@markandrach And what makes you say that exactly? A lot of history concerning this sort of thing is purely speculation as a lot of it has been lost... but there are still some writings and word-of-mouth stories passed down through the ages, as well as a little common sense, that this was connected to Druids and/or a Pagan belief system. Most things from that age could be connected to it, seeing as our ancestors from back then were almost all Pagans, of some derivative or another.

[molometer]

Thanks for a great explanation.

[molometer]

Thanks for a great explaination.

[MyShadowkat]

this druid knows what he taliking about, and bu the way not all druids are fat, and i should know i am one, and so it my mother.

[MyShadowkat]

this druid knows what he taliking about.

[SummernlightningUSA]

Just out of curiosity, what kind of spell do you 35 year old druids use to get your mother to drive you home when you are done playing dungeons and dragons? Is there another spell you can cast to find a girlfriend who is not ugly or 200 pounds? judging by this video, You guys need to find that spell!

[loolfactorie]

@SummernlightningUSA

Judging by this comment you need that spell too, guess your dad didnt find it...

[Vladmirr456]

@RichieEastside what's the problem with you? You can't study history and your own heritage just by being Christian? Christians are now lunatics?

[freddygoldstein]

Flakey wannabe wizards running through the hills with Jethro Tull blaring in the background.

[RichieEastside]

This is interesting. I'm a Christian but I do enjoy learning about my heritage and what my culture was like in ancient times. 

[MirLjudima]

@RichieEastside If you are English you will have to look to east in Germania.

[RichieEastside]

@MirLjudima I was born in the US but my family lingeage is Welsh and English. To be honest I don't know much about it, like most American whites lol But it is a fairly interesting thing to research. I wish I felt more of a connection to Europeans on a cultural level, but I really don't. I guess you can't forget your roots, but at the same time where you are is more important than where you're from I think.

[MirLjudima]

@RichieEastside My opinion is that if you don't know the past you can't go to the future.

I'm glad for you and I wish you luck in your research,I found many interesting things about my family past when I did.

[sonofherne]

@RichieEastside I think it's the opposite.Where you're from is everything! Never deny your roots, it's in your core being. Your present surroundings/roots may have changed you on the surface & you may feel settled,that's all well & good. Blood is thicker than water. As for feeling no connection, the US culture is all dominant, it's all about starting new & cutting ties. That said many Americans claim they are Irish when it's been 200yrs since they had any contact with Ireland.

[RichieEastside]

@sonofherne Well the Irish thing is kind of a new phenomenon. Ever since the Dropkick Murphys got popular and "The Departed" came out every young kid in the entire country has been claiming to be Irish and supporting the IRA and all that. I'm from Boston (the most Irish city in the country) and nobody even cared about it until about 10 or so years ago lol

[sonofherne]

@MirLjudima What?! Sorry but history has moved on a lot since you must have been at school, The english are not anglo saxons! At least half of english are celtic, having ancestry back 5000yrs to this land. Our language may have come from Germania but not our genes. We're more related to the Welsh and Irish than many believed, but good old Victorian emperialism and racial bigotry conspired to falsify who we are. There's actually more saxon dna in Scotland.

[MirLjudima]

@sonofherne One thing that you've said is correct,you do have celtic blood in you but not so much as germanic.

I'm just interested where did you learn that history and geneology.

[sonofherne]

@MirLjudima This is the latest dna research here in the British Isles. The last paper came out last year and done by an irish company who stated the amount of germanic ancestry in england may be as low as 20 percent. There never were hoardes of saxon settlers in comparison to upset the native gene pool of this land. You're look at saxons, 20,000 maximum where there were 2 million aboriginal in England. Read Brian Sykes and Stephen Openheimer. Cultural domicance doesn't mean genetic dominance.

[MirLjudima]

@sonofherne okay so,2 million celts decided to let 20 000 conquer them? spare me.

[sonofherne]

I'm being lectured about my own history by a Serbian! What about the Norman/Roman invasion? Both took over with military might without replacing the population. You cant argue with dna! If there was this huge exodus, where are the bodies? There are very few people,archaeologists/historia­ns who believe your. To a certain extent the male dna has dwindled, but that is only the male. Spare me your uneducated, dogmatic opinion. In your own logic the vikings then should have replaced the saxons! Lmao

[sonofherne]

@MirLjudima People in Devon and parts of Wiltshire were still speaking a form of celtic in the Middle ages. They wouldn't have been able to do this if the indigenous people had been killed off! Many English towns still retain their celtic names, England is very different from the West of England. The Saxons didn't even encroach into many parts. Sorry but you are badly informed here, either that or you are racist and are taking this as an opportunity to bash the English.

[MirLjudima]

@sonofherne dude,devon and wiltshire are both in west.

west is the part of britain where celts moved when saxons conquered them.

there is no surprise that the people in Devon spoke gaelic in the middle ages..it's almost part of Cornwall.

and about that racist part.I don't have nothing against English or any other nation.

I just write facts which are not politicaly influenced like yours.Of course English want to make Stonehenge a part of their national history..who wouldn't.

[sonofherne]

You're quoting what was considered fact 40 years ago! Yes, those counties are considered in the west but last I checked they are still in England, which by your logic was conquered by saxons,yes? If you say the east is saxon and the west is not, I won't disagree there, but, you're still grossly misinformed & need to study your dna evidence & gain practical anthropological experience before quoting as absolute fact. If everyone had gone to Wales it would be heavily populated today. It's not!

[sonofherne]

@MirLjudima To answer why 20,000 or even 200,000 could conquer a nation with two million, this has happened with the romans and normans. Celts fought each other, they couldn't pull together to fight the saxons. Lets not forget the celts invited the saxons. They were too busy fighting other celts. As for the romans, the celts began to like the roman way of life. Britain was open to invasion after they left and this is why they got the saxons to come in. The saxons liked it and stayed.

[MirLjudima]

@sonofherne still,they would be in minority and celtic language would dominate over the germanic one.

that isn't the case and there it is a fact that saxons,jutes and angles settled britain with their wife's and children just like vikings did but in much much bigger scale.

Again,I do not advise you to believe in every fact Oppenheimer and his kind put in front of you.

English folk-Germanic with LITTLE celtic genes in it.

[sonofherne]

@MirLjudima There's a lot more fact in Oppenheimer's research than outdated material which there is no evidence for. It appears there were more saxon men than women. The fact is the type of dna found in Germany are not found in British women. These men took native brides explaining the mixed ancestry. An early saxon village excavated here, half were born in Britain. Surely they should be from Germany?! Cerdic and Cynric were early saxon kings of England. Names are celtic NOT saxon.

[sonofherne]

@MirLjudima We can agree to disagree, there's lots of evidence for migration but NOT violent invasion leading to complete genocide of the natives! I wonder exactly what you are trying to prove here. I'm not going to admit I'm saxon because I've had my dna done on both sides. I can PROVE my ancestors lived here over 6,000 years ago & came from Iberia. I'm not going to sit here and waste any more time on someone who, whilst clearly intelligent, has his information so wrong it's not amusing.

[MirLjudima]

@sonofherne by DNA you and I are related.

so that pretty much sums it up.

glad we had this "discussion"

cheers

[loolfactorie]

@sonofherne

Roman eventually left because of germanics, picts and other celts destroying their strongeholds in western europe, also the celts did pull together to fight the saxons and were successful in putting them off for decades after a huge victory to the celts which you can find out for yourself.

[sonofherne]

@loolfactorie You're very mixed up there. The romans pulled out to protect their main interest - Rome! Before they left, they hired saxon mercenaries to fight for them against the picts.

[Steeleperfect]

@MirLjudima Stonehenge is in England. It is part of English national history. You'll just have to live with it.

Britain is the result of many thousands of years of immigration. All our ancestors came from somewhere else. What is wonderful about Britain is that every layer contributed something. We should celebrate that, not dabble in the dark waters of racial purity. Archaeology has shown that Stonehenge was of international importance long ago.

[MsOrangeication]

thnks druid....!!!! Got an A* in my stonehenge presentation coz of the video !!!!!!! WOOOOOOO

[toddissofullysick]

Druidism deserves the same respect as Christianity and Atheism

and no, i'm agnostic.

[scraderz20]

where do you get them capes/robes ?

[MagicOak]

There's not a Druid robe shop unfortunately, its a case of finding some naturally white material, preferably wool based, and get stitching. If you are not Druid its probably best not to wear white as people will ask you some fairly heavy questions and expect you to be able to cope in any number of circumstances. Shops in Glastonbury sell very nice coloured pagan robes that will keep you warm and dry on a windy equinox.

[scraderz20]

@MagicOak thanks for your feedback,i got a robe from america shipped over few month ago its great,expensive but well worth it , thankyou

[camlpg]

Was there a Bronze Age, really? Hint, Hint check out bible Genesis 5:16-24 (particularly verse 22 which says "...Tubal-Cain, an instructor of every craftsman in BRONZE AND IRON. " Or Neo-lithic? Hmmm neolithic means newrock age sort of sounds oxymoronic to me. The one about the burial grounds; certainly they must have found some bones there so why all the silence about the graves.

[sonofherne]

@camlpg Um, why do you think talks of burials are silenced? This is ridiculous. The burials at SH have been known about publically for years. It's actually the largest prehistoric cremation cemetery in Western Europe. I guess if you haven't read anything about Stonehenge it's possible to not realise that is was used as a burial ground for almost the entirety of its life, but come on, there's no conspiracy.

[willejp]

i met that bloke yesterday in his yellow van after the solstice. good guy :D lots of great ideas.

[Ragna74]

Oh this is quite interesting. I'm also related to Frank Somers.

[ruiseartalcorn]

Excellent!!!

Tapadh leat! (Thank you),

Ruiseart,

Chief of the Gaelic Druid Order,

Scotland.

[hereticking1]

Great serious insight into the meaning of stonehenge for druids

[Films4You]

Take a look at the German Bell it looks like this

[AlexBramen]

yet again....I love you Heritage Key!

[sylvanhart]

Good video. Very exciting to hear of early iron age discoveries at Bluehenge.

[jimthebard]

excellent production.

[MalcolmJHK]

Wow, that guy's full of facts - really interesting stuff. Just goes to show you should never judge a druid by his wacky getup.

[heritagekeymedia]

Great video. That druid knows his stuff!