In terms of the debates going on here; both will get good jobs. The stuff about Business school requiring no work is nonsense, and the stuff about grades being completely unimportant is nonsense. Any field, whether it's law or business, will require hard work to do well.
as a university law student studying criminal law, this video has kind of offended me. this is not true what is shown in the video. if a person wants to become a doctor, lawyer or business man u have to go through a lot of hard work. at the beginning its hard, but at the end all the hard work pays off very well
It's sort of funny how many people (lawyers) are offended by this video. haha it was made by COLUMBIA BUSINESS SCHOOL students. if it were made by law school students it would be the other way around ... duh!!
I bet B-School guy and all his classmates are busy occupying Wall Street right now while us Law School Guys (excluding the ones who went to Tier 4 schools and graduated at the middle of their class without participating in law revue or moot court) are too busy working to stand around on the street and complain about how they got scammed by the system. By the way if you business school losers ever DO get a job interview, the appropriate tie knot is a full windor, not a 4 in 1.
@BrotherDaniel1 "if you business school losers ever DO get a job interview, the appropriate tie knot is a full windor, not a 4 in 1." -- Most people would WANT to believe you're a smart guy, given the most lawyers are pretty intelligent people, but you're working really hard to undermine that.
Take a look at credentials of the top brass in big business, and I think you B-School guys will be surprised at how many have Esq. after their names. Lawyers are at least as likely to be highly qualified as executives as M.B.As.
Like open and shut cases that are mediated? If you can still sue in America for attempted murder, kidnapping, invasion of privacy, misuse of NSLs, misuse of the Patriot Act, terrorist threatening, illegal interception of emails and phone calls, denial of attorney, police harassment, and emotional distress search ElectNoMoreSpys.blogspot
@yangi19910604 I did that at Yale. Now, I pwn my own law practice. I make 100 million, my wife is a ginger with 42HH cups & a nice ass. We have two kids, live in a mansion in Greenwich, Connecticut, & drive a Range Rover classic. We go on tropical vacations & have summer houses.
Calling shananigans. We law students, as compared to MBA candidates, do substantially more work, have more on the line if we don't perform well, and most significantly, have far more difficult subject matter to master. Yet we still manage to party harder and get laid more often in what little free time we are afforded than you yuppie-wannabe business drones. Enjoy spending the rest of your lives as corporate shills, B School Guys.
There is a well known genius who has an MBA from Harvard- George W. Bush. Must be a difficult degree to get, otherwise-"What is our childrens learning at B-Schools?"
I'm not sure that I agree with the first commercial. I am doing both my JD and my MBA and I think that law school work is far more difficult, but I have more MBA work by volume.
do yourselves a favor and go to med school, nursing school. Get an engineering degree or study computer science.....produce something valuable; do something worthwhile.
Deep down, does anyone want to slave away for corporations? I mean, i know that's defined as success, and that's why i worked hard to get into a good university, but when i realised that everyone just want to earn money, i feel as we've lost a sense of what it is to be completely fulfilled.
the problem is....most of the famed company today were set up by people who never had any MBA degree ....and their CEOs are basically their children >.>
and well a sh!t ton of lawyers have turned into politicians and presidents.
so an mba student might some day may play with millions of dollars..the law student is gonna play with trillions of dollars x.x
(but both are bunch of wankers who drain our money soo any way, we r fcked T_T)
@bhimz2 There are also a ton of business people in politics as well. More career politicians are coming up as well.
Also if you still think that law students being president plays with the most, you don't realize that the Federal Reserve and other central banks play with more than anyone!
I don't understand everyone. Business school and law school both make sense depending on what you want to do. But please don't sound like an idiot and say business school is a paper diploma and a joke. I personally can't stand law. And the thought of going through thousands upon thousands of pages of meaningless boring text makes me want to throw up. Nonetheless, can't argue with making 2 mil a year working at Skadden. (business is still better : ) )
it's cute that people in "B-school," which sounds perjorative enough in itself, need to create these pithy little videos to convince themselves that their degree is valid and in some way comparable to having a law degree and passing the bar.
The videos dont even make any valid points. A guy gets tackled, a guy gets an erection, there's some inbalance in promotion. There's neither purpose nor insight to the work, much like B-School itself and the B-students who attend their overpriced Devry.
an mba is a complete waste of time and money unless you are at harvard or yale. a jd ain't much better, but at least it allows you to sit for the bar.
I'm sure he's not going to be as cocky when he realizes he just spent so much time/effort getting an MBA just so that he can work for someone else for the rest of his life.
@IrrationalAGent we are not comparing phd because any phd can teach betten than a non-phd we are talking about jd and masters as an accounting undergrad, I still stand that a jd is better. I can do all the jobs a mba and a jd does. I have no need or use for a phd .
@nina090991 Saying a PhD in economics can do every non-legal job a JD can do is like saying a nurse can do everything a M.D can do except diagnose. The whole purpose of a Ph.D is to research and teach.
@nina090991 You're comparison is a straw man because the medical field is very different than the relevant market job searchers (the econ PhDs) compete in (due to the legal barriers to entry in many medical ventures, which mandate particular degrees, similar to a lawyer or CPA). Private firms that recruit fresh econ PhDs each year know who they are getting and know how to transition academics.
Signed,
A senior consultant w/ a PhD in economics. I tell MBAs what to do. Enjoy your debt.
@IrrationalAgent You are the one grasping at straws , since my original post was about MBA and JD. My opinion still stands, because you have done nothing to prove it otherwise than talks about a PhD who nobody even mention. I don't care if you tell MBA what to do , since I'm not a MBA and I was not making a case infavor of them. The JD can do everything an MBA can do and they still can teach since you only need the JD to teach law.
@nina090991 The PhD in Economics is the most flexible degree of them all. Economics PhDs can get almost any job an MBA and Business PhD can get, and any non-lawyer job a JD can get, including academics if you just focus most of your research on the field of Law & Economics. Law schools hire Economics PhDs because they know how to teach, whereas JDs are just robots who get trained to memorize things. Such little substance to the JD other than filling the demand for lawyers.
@Riickk And? JD's can do it because a MBA is just a title ,you could have taken all the classes in UG. I consider getting and MBA but theres not point in getting one if you already have a business B.A because it would be useless. If a company is paying for the MBA and you get in to the top program thats great and go for it , but if they are not don't waste your money. Because the name of the university in your MBA and contacts you make in class is the real thing you gain from the MBA.
@nina090991 I couldn't agree more that the value in the MBA lies in contacts and brand recognition... but then again those two things matter far more in real life than any techinical skills you may get in MBA/JD/PhD. I am an engineer undergrad and my firm (MBB) will sponsor my MBA so that's why I'm gonna do it. But I would never get a JD if I want to do business... no point in getting a JD if you don't want to work with law.
@Riickk Thats a great combo, I'm accounting/Human Resources double major , I think is important to know what your plans in the future to decide what education you need. I plan to get my cpa before going for the JD, my intention is to practice law but focus in Business . While I have no need for business classes , I want to learn and experience the legal side of Business and at some point transition whether is by counseling/etc or opening my own business. I want to combine the two things I like.
@WarrenAch Oh, OK, thanks for that wonderful and life-changin advice...I'll shy away from a CPA now and strive for a top-14 law school while avoiding starbucks and looking for a fellowship! Oh boy, the yellow brick road to success and to think, it's the synegy of JD-MBA that's taken me there! Goo-dee!!
@zemilideias The point is, to do Business Law, you need a JD, or a JD/MBA, the CPA won't even give you the right to sit for the Bar and Law Firms don't give a flying fuck if you know accounting.
To be a fucking boring Accountant, you need a CPA, not a JD, and Accounting Firms don't give a flying fuck if you know the Law.
To be an Investment Banker, you can get a JD, CPA, or MBA and still get in, even though JDs are the only Non-MBAs that have it easier than the rest to get in besides MBAs...
@WarrenAch You fools don't get it do you? Do you want to be a Grad A scuzzbucket and be an investment banker or a Grade B lawyer or a Grade D CPA? They all smoke donkey and they're all ignoble, boring, selfish stupid professions that screw up the world as you all admit in your dorky little skits and sexual innuendos through which highly unattractive people throw bills so as to seem attractive, or at least smart. All your kinds blow. Why don't you go work at Starbucks and DO SOMETHING?
@WarrenAch So now "BIGLAW," IB, and Consultant all get capitalized? Is that a way of underscoring how BIG they are and how much money they make or because you're a moron who knows nothing about the English lang?
@resipsa1999 I am fairly sure that the richest people in the world are not lawyers. See, the most profitable business is indeed business itself. And business people need lawyers. This is why lawyers get to make so much, MBA's pay the LLM's. I can't wait to finish my MBA. ; )
Most lawyers don't make "so much" there are too many lawyers. A T3 or 4 law degree is basically a piece of toilet paper you took out student loans to get.
@resipsa1999 Cannot really beat that income with such a low work load in business, but there is no real ceiling with what you can do in investment banking with enough input, but I am definitely going to be working over twice as much as you lol. My BA is in Finance and I am currently in my last year working on my masters in Management Science.
@resipsa1999 I know a MBA who makes $500 ~ $900 million a year. Works probably around 80~100 hours a week. His name is Henry Kravis. He's from CBS. Sounds better than being a partner at WLRK.
@s900203 You personally know Henry Kravis? wow, impressive. Jeez, I can write something like, "I know a university dropout worth billions ... his name is Bill Gates, and you should also drop out to make the billions.' FYI, I know a JD who is also worth hundreds of millions ... his name is Lloyd Blankfein (CEO of GS). Ps I'm not a lawyer, I just hate retarded logic.
if u want a a capitalist point of view, basically the same money in both jobs as long as u dont be an idiot and become a management accounts and actually become CA or CPA depending on what country you live in... 1st yr out is more as law but u r 2 yrs older so if u become an accountant in a charted firm u will have surpassed law by the time u reach their age....either way do what u want but more or less they get paid the same
Too bad Business Schools have an unwritten rule that people without a minimum of 2 years office job experience aren't allowed admission no matter how far above the Harvard average their GPA and GMAT are. Wish I had known that before I gave COLUMBIA BUSINESS among others my nonrefundable application fee. So now I'm in law school, which is all about creating indebted suicidal suckers, but Business Schools and Law Schools are all about stealing poor suckers' money.
Im in my last year of law at a top school. I worked as auditor for a big 4 in NYC and let me tell you, the business world overall is much more interesting and varied than law. Plus if you don't get into biglaw you pretty much wasted your time. I'm now hoping to break into investment banking, if not I'll go into consulting. And another thing if you have to choose between trusting your CPA or your attorney, go with your CPA every time. CPA's are more knowledgable and less arrogant.
@adallhard I agree 1000%. Iit is hard for me to think of ANY kind of professional that is less trustworthy and knowledgable than an attorney. From what I've seen, CPAs get the best entry/mid level jobs. Finance MBAs, CFAs, and similar graduates have the best skill set for the top jobs. Only thing is you can't get those top jobs without VERY high quality work experience. Law is worthless for all except the losers of college with worthless degrees. An MS in tax is better than an LLM too.
@bigrobdeezey The intention of a top MBA is not to teach you much. They expect you to already have been trained at the graduate level and have had massive work experience. Its goal is to function as an elite job placement agency, not a school. If your MBA functions as a school and not a job placement agency, it isn't a top MBA.
@scottj19x89 Perhaps, but many inside and outside directors on corporate boards also have law degrees -- hard to say which one played a bigger role over the other. Also, the amount of people on corporate boards of F500 companies who feel their position is a result of their MBA is minuscule compared to the # of people attending B school to obtain an MBA.
@bawhite125 this video is like frick and frack--you wanna be a courtesan by reading or by using spreadsheets? That's the real diff between you self-serving tools who screw up the world, and the economy while you're at it.
@bawhite125 you disassociated yourself from the JD too? Sorry, I'm not sucha skilled hermeneut.I simply thought you were dissing MBAs. Maybe, as a lawyer, I could make up arguments from between the lies/ thin air. I guess you're right, though, that's better than making up value or even lives from spreadsheets...Oh, maybe not, now I'm confused. All i can surmise isMBAs and JDs with but a few exceptions (and given comments here I see no excetions) are equal parts courtesan and crash test dummy.
Half of the "B-school" guys don't have jobs though cuz there's to freakin many of them, and there isn't that much to learn about business that you get from a classroom. Historically the great businessmen were innovators and you can't teach someone how to innovate, not even at Columbia.
@kbrazeal90 I disagree. It is work experience and other advanced credentials. Grades are almost worthless in fact. I say that with a 3.9. Who the hell wants to work for you in the first place. Maybe you should get a job first before worrying about hiring me or not.
@kbrazeal90 Grades really are not THAT important in business. There are so many credentials to earn that are respected in business that nobody really cares about such a narrow little thing. Earning your CPA, CFA, MS, and MBA is what matters, not your idiotic 3.9 in your BS in economics. Although, it doesn't hurt. The truth is though, the world prefers a lower gpa with legit work experience to a 4.0. I learned the hard way. I had a 3.9 and can't get a single interview.
I think I will take Law School and my professional doctorate and US Tax, State and Fed. Licenses. When the CEO freaks out because he just committed an SEC violation or an export compliance reg. I, the GC A/K/A corporate God, can tell him I told you so! Read your memos; then, I will tell him I wish I could help out but my private practice is always thriving, I am never unemployed. Oh! But, better place all that on hold because I am going to accept a judicial appointment, congress or president.
@Lifeandlaws YOU ARE A RETARD. What tax licenses idiot? Law degrees are not tax licenses. You are DEFINITELY a retard who fell for the law racket. Good luck chump.
Oh, and i'm not sure but i think a "business degree" in the states is a bullshit artsy degree, am i right? Up in Canada, we have business schools but you get degrees in finance/accounting/etc.
@bencoats2000 Contacts, scholarships, sponsors, many ways to ensure your education.
If you work hard, you CAN get into a Top School and get a scholarship.
If you're not a hardworker, don't even bother getting into a Law School as you will get raped once you start competing against Yale grads for a Big firm job.
terrible imaging!!! awful advertising!!! message is built up for total idiots ... if you've got those people graduating CBS im very very sorry to you guys =D
@illuminatus2885 Yeah...ex-lawyers turned politicians didn't fuck up our debt or fannie/freddie right? That 250k law school tuition of yours definitely didn't go to waste...dumbass lol.
Can you imagine what the people who earned their way into Harvard Business thought when they saw that stooge?
I guess it's good that business school is easy... Law school would've left him in disgrace unless his daddy had doled out some oil money to the professors.
Actually, our problem with the economy is mostly attributed to the economists that are lying for their big paychecks. MBA's count the money-economists decide what to do with it :-)
In terms of the debates going on here; both will get good jobs. The stuff about Business school requiring no work is nonsense, and the stuff about grades being completely unimportant is nonsense. Any field, whether it's law or business, will require hard work to do well.
FlashFire40 2 weeks ago
I want to kick B school guy in the teeth
XTINAsianlatinA 1 month ago
part 2, the after college version:
Hi, I'm an attorney guy.
Hi, I'm in the unemployment line guy.
iamchevyman5 1 month ago 2
these guys clearly don't know shit about law school. "Civil procedures" @1:21 lol...
74501a 2 months ago
The B-school guy seems to be guy on the rugby team with a GPA of 0.7 :D
from27to32 2 months ago
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Mjames8765 2 months ago
This is not funny PLEASE STOP MAKING VIDEOS!
MrNolanryan11 3 months ago
lol I'm an engineering student... and i'm studying both law and economy XD
Zwe190 3 months ago
I wanted to thank you for this
virgenruz 3 months ago
as a university law student studying criminal law, this video has kind of offended me. this is not true what is shown in the video. if a person wants to become a doctor, lawyer or business man u have to go through a lot of hard work. at the beginning its hard, but at the end all the hard work pays off very well
sah8000 3 months ago 2
lol @ the super lame arguments back and forth. Don't even have to look thoroughly, vids like this always make insecure morons lash out on both sides.
TripN3 4 months ago
It's sort of funny how many people (lawyers) are offended by this video. haha it was made by COLUMBIA BUSINESS SCHOOL students. if it were made by law school students it would be the other way around ... duh!!
WowzaGuy 4 months ago
Dislikes vs Likes = Law School Guys vs Business School Guys :DDD
bizbite2 4 months ago
Harvard Business School made this commercial as part of a smear campaign.
TjtheTrapper 4 months ago
It's civil procedure. Not procedures.
niceshot209 4 months ago
I bet B-School guy and all his classmates are busy occupying Wall Street right now while us Law School Guys (excluding the ones who went to Tier 4 schools and graduated at the middle of their class without participating in law revue or moot court) are too busy working to stand around on the street and complain about how they got scammed by the system. By the way if you business school losers ever DO get a job interview, the appropriate tie knot is a full windor, not a 4 in 1.
BrotherDaniel1 4 months ago
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@BrotherDaniel1 "if you business school losers ever DO get a job interview, the appropriate tie knot is a full windor, not a 4 in 1." -- Most people would WANT to believe you're a smart guy, given the most lawyers are pretty intelligent people, but you're working really hard to undermine that.
WowzaGuy 4 months ago
Take a look at credentials of the top brass in big business, and I think you B-School guys will be surprised at how many have Esq. after their names. Lawyers are at least as likely to be highly qualified as executives as M.B.As.
nicky2coats 5 months ago 2
in this day and age, I know you can do a better green screen job for nothing...
KRSchannel 5 months ago
Lame.
TheCdsport 5 months ago
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EliLillyInnovation 5 months ago
This is lame beyond belief.
EliLillyInnovation 5 months ago
hahaha clearly all the law school guys disliked this video. myself excluded, LIKE!!
UltraMagnus3786 6 months ago
I think Law School Guy and B School Guy need a Film School Guy
mee243 7 months ago 38
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MillionDollarSuit 7 months ago
I wonder how Columbia Law feels about this?
MelvinThe42 7 months ago
this is so shit
redgreenpaper 7 months ago
You're both soulless agents of the undead. Love, Masters of Accounting Guy
hammertime0101 7 months ago
this is kinda like the mac commercials.
it tries to mock law school, but we all know that it's really the other way around
lusteraliaszero 7 months ago
ahaha i'm doing a com/law double degree which makes me both these guys
yangi19910604 7 months ago
@yangi19910604 I did that at Yale. Now, I pwn my own law practice. I make 100 million, my wife is a ginger with 42HH cups & a nice ass. We have two kids, live in a mansion in Greenwich, Connecticut, & drive a Range Rover classic. We go on tropical vacations & have summer houses.
MelvinThe42 7 months ago
Who the fuck wrote these skits? lol
theacousticanarchy 7 months ago 2
...Terrible tackling technique.
Cardgamesordie 7 months ago
Nice racism in the video. :) Racism is cool when it is directed at white people and favours black ones.
GudsSkyfall 8 months ago
@GudsSkyfall
I think it's a brown guy coz of the facial features. Probably Sri Lankan or something.
Cphari 8 months ago
@GudsSkyfall .. I am not seeing the racism.
maybe it's racism because the black guy is taking the education that'll make less money and doesn't require a brain?
lusteraliaszero 7 months ago
"Groooss! I felt his dick on my leg!"
Okay, dyke calm the fuck down.
Batosai420 9 months ago 2
Lots more unemployed business grads then law grads!
starswitch 9 months ago 2
125 people are law school students
economienda 9 months ago
... going to any school is all about meeting people ... so basically "hooking up" and "hooking up" .. understand?... BTW they are not the same.
48memorex 9 months ago
go Columbia!
YoungIvyScholar 9 months ago
wtf? haha
This just makes Colombia look really stupied haha
MUF230 9 months ago
@MUF230 it makes u really stupid for not knowing how to spell "stupid"
ExKon3 7 months ago
Calling shananigans. We law students, as compared to MBA candidates, do substantially more work, have more on the line if we don't perform well, and most significantly, have far more difficult subject matter to master. Yet we still manage to party harder and get laid more often in what little free time we are afforded than you yuppie-wannabe business drones. Enjoy spending the rest of your lives as corporate shills, B School Guys.
nicky2coats 10 months ago
@nicky2coats No need to get your knickers in a twist. Someone having fun on youtube.
krysroman 9 months ago
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nicky2coats 10 months ago
There is a well known genius who has an MBA from Harvard- George W. Bush. Must be a difficult degree to get, otherwise-"What is our childrens learning at B-Schools?"
LomLom333 10 months ago 2
I'm not sure that I agree with the first commercial. I am doing both my JD and my MBA and I think that law school work is far more difficult, but I have more MBA work by volume.
JagdPanther101 10 months ago
do yourselves a favor and go to med school, nursing school. Get an engineering degree or study computer science.....produce something valuable; do something worthwhile.
superchode11 10 months ago 2
@superchode11 Are you saying both law school and business school are useless? Harsh buddy.
FlashFire40 2 weeks ago
If this is supposed to make MBA look good: fail.
"B School" students didn't get into law school... at least that's how it works in Canada...
Anyone can get an MBA, we have 14 Law Schools in the entire country, from the Atlantic to the Pacific.
EgoNamahaNemoRex 10 months ago
The top comments are crap. My Columbia MBA quadrupled my salary and has continued to serve me well. It was worth every penny
cbsmba 11 months ago 2
Deep down, does anyone want to slave away for corporations? I mean, i know that's defined as success, and that's why i worked hard to get into a good university, but when i realised that everyone just want to earn money, i feel as we've lost a sense of what it is to be completely fulfilled.
eidothea 11 months ago
the problem is....most of the famed company today were set up by people who never had any MBA degree ....and their CEOs are basically their children >.>
and well a sh!t ton of lawyers have turned into politicians and presidents.
so an mba student might some day may play with millions of dollars..the law student is gonna play with trillions of dollars x.x
(but both are bunch of wankers who drain our money soo any way, we r fcked T_T)
bhimz2 1 year ago
@bhimz2 There are also a ton of business people in politics as well. More career politicians are coming up as well.
Also if you still think that law students being president plays with the most, you don't realize that the Federal Reserve and other central banks play with more than anyone!
Exus11 11 months ago
I don't understand everyone. Business school and law school both make sense depending on what you want to do. But please don't sound like an idiot and say business school is a paper diploma and a joke. I personally can't stand law. And the thought of going through thousands upon thousands of pages of meaningless boring text makes me want to throw up. Nonetheless, can't argue with making 2 mil a year working at Skadden. (business is still better : ) )
MrChickenpants 1 year ago 2
it's cute that people in "B-school," which sounds perjorative enough in itself, need to create these pithy little videos to convince themselves that their degree is valid and in some way comparable to having a law degree and passing the bar.
The videos dont even make any valid points. A guy gets tackled, a guy gets an erection, there's some inbalance in promotion. There's neither purpose nor insight to the work, much like B-School itself and the B-students who attend their overpriced Devry.
burntheory 1 year ago
Very interesting, thanks for the video!
Windinmysails71 1 year ago
an mba is a complete waste of time and money unless you are at harvard or yale. a jd ain't much better, but at least it allows you to sit for the bar.
hespelledyalewitha6 1 year ago
Yes, the guy on the right just oozes success.
I'm sure he's not going to be as cocky when he realizes he just spent so much time/effort getting an MBA just so that he can work for someone else for the rest of his life.
MrJamilaslam 1 year ago
@zidane583 My ass.
WarrenAch 1 year ago
0:44-0:45
LOL!
NYerintransit 1 year ago
I want my 3:16 back!!!!
jwbroyles1 1 year ago
@IrrationalAGent we are not comparing phd because any phd can teach betten than a non-phd we are talking about jd and masters as an accounting undergrad, I still stand that a jd is better. I can do all the jobs a mba and a jd does. I have no need or use for a phd .
nina090991 1 year ago
@nina090991 Saying a PhD in economics can do every non-legal job a JD can do is like saying a nurse can do everything a M.D can do except diagnose. The whole purpose of a Ph.D is to research and teach.
nina090991 1 year ago
@nina090991 You're comparison is a straw man because the medical field is very different than the relevant market job searchers (the econ PhDs) compete in (due to the legal barriers to entry in many medical ventures, which mandate particular degrees, similar to a lawyer or CPA). Private firms that recruit fresh econ PhDs each year know who they are getting and know how to transition academics.
Signed,
A senior consultant w/ a PhD in economics. I tell MBAs what to do. Enjoy your debt.
IrrationalAgent 1 year ago
@IrrationalAgent You are the one grasping at straws , since my original post was about MBA and JD. My opinion still stands, because you have done nothing to prove it otherwise than talks about a PhD who nobody even mention. I don't care if you tell MBA what to do , since I'm not a MBA and I was not making a case infavor of them. The JD can do everything an MBA can do and they still can teach since you only need the JD to teach law.
Signed,
Person with common sense and 0 debt .
nina090991 1 year ago
fuck med school, fuck b school, definitely fuck law school...
this is theoretical physics guy..!
sinnerscrusade 1 year ago
med school ftw!
5sn7ya 1 year ago
@5sn7ya so i herd law scool iz 4 guyz who dint get nto med scool
@ OT no but seriously I found it amusing ^^
wyrmguard 1 year ago
At the end of the day a person with a JD can be a banker or business men but someone with a MBA can't be a lawyer.
nina090991 1 year ago
@nina090991 The PhD in Economics is the most flexible degree of them all. Economics PhDs can get almost any job an MBA and Business PhD can get, and any non-lawyer job a JD can get, including academics if you just focus most of your research on the field of Law & Economics. Law schools hire Economics PhDs because they know how to teach, whereas JDs are just robots who get trained to memorize things. Such little substance to the JD other than filling the demand for lawyers.
IrrationalAgent 1 year ago
@nina090991 why the real someone with a MBA would want to be a lawyer... all JDs wanna do business.
Riickk 1 year ago
@Riickk And? JD's can do it because a MBA is just a title ,you could have taken all the classes in UG. I consider getting and MBA but theres not point in getting one if you already have a business B.A because it would be useless. If a company is paying for the MBA and you get in to the top program thats great and go for it , but if they are not don't waste your money. Because the name of the university in your MBA and contacts you make in class is the real thing you gain from the MBA.
nina090991 1 year ago
@nina090991 I couldn't agree more that the value in the MBA lies in contacts and brand recognition... but then again those two things matter far more in real life than any techinical skills you may get in MBA/JD/PhD. I am an engineer undergrad and my firm (MBB) will sponsor my MBA so that's why I'm gonna do it. But I would never get a JD if I want to do business... no point in getting a JD if you don't want to work with law.
Riickk 1 year ago
@Riickk Thats a great combo, I'm accounting/Human Resources double major , I think is important to know what your plans in the future to decide what education you need. I plan to get my cpa before going for the JD, my intention is to practice law but focus in Business . While I have no need for business classes , I want to learn and experience the legal side of Business and at some point transition whether is by counseling/etc or opening my own business. I want to combine the two things I like.
nina090991 1 year ago
@nina090991 Business Law doesn't require the CPA, CFA, Bloomberg or any other useless certification.
It's even useless for Investment Banking and Management Consulting.
Unless you like Accounting, don't think the CPA will open you any more doors, especially if you want to practice Law afterwards.
+ Make sure you make it into a Top - 14 Law School, or your J.D. will land you a job at Starbucks.
Last but not least, do everything at your disposal to get a Scholarship there, less debts.
WarrenAch 1 year ago
@WarrenAch Oh, OK, thanks for that wonderful and life-changin advice...I'll shy away from a CPA now and strive for a top-14 law school while avoiding starbucks and looking for a fellowship! Oh boy, the yellow brick road to success and to think, it's the synegy of JD-MBA that's taken me there! Goo-dee!!
zemilideias 1 year ago
@zemilideias The point is, to do Business Law, you need a JD, or a JD/MBA, the CPA won't even give you the right to sit for the Bar and Law Firms don't give a flying fuck if you know accounting.
To be a fucking boring Accountant, you need a CPA, not a JD, and Accounting Firms don't give a flying fuck if you know the Law.
To be an Investment Banker, you can get a JD, CPA, or MBA and still get in, even though JDs are the only Non-MBAs that have it easier than the rest to get in besides MBAs...
WarrenAch 1 year ago
@WarrenAch You fools don't get it do you? Do you want to be a Grad A scuzzbucket and be an investment banker or a Grade B lawyer or a Grade D CPA? They all smoke donkey and they're all ignoble, boring, selfish stupid professions that screw up the world as you all admit in your dorky little skits and sexual innuendos through which highly unattractive people throw bills so as to seem attractive, or at least smart. All your kinds blow. Why don't you go work at Starbucks and DO SOMETHING?
zemilideias 1 year ago
@zemilideias Because Starbucks doesn't pay a fraction of what a BigLaw Attorney, IB or Consultant makes a year, suck on mine.
WarrenAch 1 year ago
@WarrenAch So now "BIGLAW," IB, and Consultant all get capitalized? Is that a way of underscoring how BIG they are and how much money they make or because you're a moron who knows nothing about the English lang?
zemilideias 1 year ago
@zemilideias BigLaw = Big Law Firm = More than 100 Lawyers working there = Big Salaries = Big Working Hours = Big Clients = Big Bonuses. Bro.
WarrenAch 1 year ago 4
way to play on nerd / jock stereotypes lol
dayjun 1 year ago
way to play on nerd / jock stereotypes lol
dayjun 1 year ago
I thought these ads were a comment on our economy, now that I find out they're real it's speaks even louder, what a joke
nsolcis 1 year ago
This advertising is truly dense. I'm awefully surprised that this is from Columbia University.
idontgivafcuk 1 year ago
lawyers earn more money...and they get the bitches
economienda 1 year ago
This makes me think that Columbia Business School must be awful.
ml497 1 year ago 62
@ml497 watch inside job
ndjo7189 1 year ago
@ndjo7189 inside job is left wing shit for idiots that can't read books
mcbooze 11 months ago
@ml497 Yea too bad Warren Buffet went to Columbia.
penit15 11 months ago 6
I've got a law degree and I make $165K a year owning my own law practice and work about 30 hours a week.
How's that MBA compare...?
resipsa1999 1 year ago 22
@resipsa1999 How long have you been working before starting your own practice?
IIoWoII 1 year ago
@resipsa1999 I am fairly sure that the richest people in the world are not lawyers. See, the most profitable business is indeed business itself. And business people need lawyers. This is why lawyers get to make so much, MBA's pay the LLM's. I can't wait to finish my MBA. ; )
cannaman1115 1 year ago 3
@cannaman1115
Most lawyers don't make "so much" there are too many lawyers. A T3 or 4 law degree is basically a piece of toilet paper you took out student loans to get.
Rockynurse 1 year ago
@cannaman1115 The richest people drop out of school. Ironically
solomizor1988 1 year ago
@resipsa1999
You are either lying or are high re: the number of hours. Bankers makes 200K first year out of school. Beat that.
Cphari 8 months ago
@resipsa1999
Not much, MBA From UVA Darden, Financial Consultant, I make $185K a year + Bonuses and work less than 30 hours a week.
Azndragon533 7 months ago
@resipsa1999 Cannot really beat that income with such a low work load in business, but there is no real ceiling with what you can do in investment banking with enough input, but I am definitely going to be working over twice as much as you lol. My BA is in Finance and I am currently in my last year working on my masters in Management Science.
isaiah352 6 months ago
@resipsa1999 I know a MBA who makes $500 ~ $900 million a year. Works probably around 80~100 hours a week. His name is Henry Kravis. He's from CBS. Sounds better than being a partner at WLRK.
s900203 5 months ago
@s900203 You personally know Henry Kravis? wow, impressive. Jeez, I can write something like, "I know a university dropout worth billions ... his name is Bill Gates, and you should also drop out to make the billions.' FYI, I know a JD who is also worth hundreds of millions ... his name is Lloyd Blankfein (CEO of GS). Ps I'm not a lawyer, I just hate retarded logic.
EliLillyInnovation 5 months ago
@resipsa1999 165. hahahahaha. that is all :)
donmeswimee 5 months ago
if u want a a capitalist point of view, basically the same money in both jobs as long as u dont be an idiot and become a management accounts and actually become CA or CPA depending on what country you live in... 1st yr out is more as law but u r 2 yrs older so if u become an accountant in a charted firm u will have surpassed law by the time u reach their age....either way do what u want but more or less they get paid the same
grk2nv100 1 year ago
So basically a dick is going to be your boss, and he took the easy road in school and life? Son of a bitch!
gutsyt123 1 year ago
Business schools are for mediocrities who can't make it on their own. Sam Walton never had an MBA.
GregHuismans 1 year ago
Too bad Business Schools have an unwritten rule that people without a minimum of 2 years office job experience aren't allowed admission no matter how far above the Harvard average their GPA and GMAT are. Wish I had known that before I gave COLUMBIA BUSINESS among others my nonrefundable application fee. So now I'm in law school, which is all about creating indebted suicidal suckers, but Business Schools and Law Schools are all about stealing poor suckers' money.
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asheralexandersmith 1 year ago
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FUNNIEST VIDEO EVER!!!
xTRAPJAWx 1 year ago
If I were hiring manager, and I saw these "cute" little vids, I would not hire Columbia business school grads.
henhun 1 year ago
@1dgg --- law sucks ass? but then why didnt you stick with your finance degree? cuz it's meaningless
edsoninc 1 year ago
Im in my last year of law at a top school. I worked as auditor for a big 4 in NYC and let me tell you, the business world overall is much more interesting and varied than law. Plus if you don't get into biglaw you pretty much wasted your time. I'm now hoping to break into investment banking, if not I'll go into consulting. And another thing if you have to choose between trusting your CPA or your attorney, go with your CPA every time. CPA's are more knowledgable and less arrogant.
adallhard 1 year ago
@adallhard I agree 1000%. Iit is hard for me to think of ANY kind of professional that is less trustworthy and knowledgable than an attorney. From what I've seen, CPAs get the best entry/mid level jobs. Finance MBAs, CFAs, and similar graduates have the best skill set for the top jobs. Only thing is you can't get those top jobs without VERY high quality work experience. Law is worthless for all except the losers of college with worthless degrees. An MS in tax is better than an LLM too.
1dgg9h4dr6ppp8 1 year ago
Anyone saying grades don't matter is a retard.
1dgg9h4dr6ppp8, have fun being the only Business Degree Holder at McD's.
The guy working his ass off in Law School will be in BigLaw working his way up to Partner.
WarrenAch 1 year ago
Good to know you can do well in B-school and f**k off all day. I'm seriously reconsidering my future now.
bigrobdeezey 1 year ago
@bigrobdeezey The intention of a top MBA is not to teach you much. They expect you to already have been trained at the graduate level and have had massive work experience. Its goal is to function as an elite job placement agency, not a school. If your MBA functions as a school and not a job placement agency, it isn't a top MBA.
1dgg9h4dr6ppp8 1 year ago
Don't business courses have a focus on developing innovation? These videos severely lack originality and creativity.
Veneratio10 1 year ago 2
Lmao
ItsSnottyBee 1 year ago
too bad that a MBA is the most useless degree in the world.
bawhite125 1 year ago 56
@bawhite125 Nope.
speedvaxer 1 year ago
@bawhite125 only if you didnt come from a top 20 school. it's the same for law school though.
testingtesting44106 1 year ago
@bawhite125 if it's from a non-top MBA program... try telling that to all the CEOs/CFOs/COOs etc. in the f500 and they'll laugh in your face
scottj19x89 1 year ago
@scottj19x89 Perhaps, but many inside and outside directors on corporate boards also have law degrees -- hard to say which one played a bigger role over the other. Also, the amount of people on corporate boards of F500 companies who feel their position is a result of their MBA is minuscule compared to the # of people attending B school to obtain an MBA.
bawhite125 1 year ago
@bawhite125: Too bad you must be an eternal underachiever.
Hey, ring up my Slurpee and Doritos. Thanks.
Sexxistentialist 1 year ago
@Sexxistentialist What kind of trash still consumes Slurpee's and Doritos? Besides, you couldn't afford me.
bawhite125 1 year ago
@bawhite125 this video is like frick and frack--you wanna be a courtesan by reading or by using spreadsheets? That's the real diff between you self-serving tools who screw up the world, and the economy while you're at it.
zemilideias 1 year ago
@zemilideias Who are you speaking to with your blanket statements? I disassociated myself with what I said.
bawhite125 1 year ago
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@bawhite125 you disassociated yourself from the JD too? Sorry, I'm not sucha skilled hermeneut.I simply thought you were dissing MBAs. Maybe, as a lawyer, I could make up arguments from between the lies/ thin air. I guess you're right, though, that's better than making up value or even lives from spreadsheets...Oh, maybe not, now I'm confused. All i can surmise isMBAs and JDs with but a few exceptions (and given comments here I see no excetions) are equal parts courtesan and crash test dummy.
zemilideias 1 year ago
@bawhite125 an MBA*
limak917 9 months ago
Half of the "B-school" guys don't have jobs though cuz there's to freakin many of them, and there isn't that much to learn about business that you get from a classroom. Historically the great businessmen were innovators and you can't teach someone how to innovate, not even at Columbia.
drewe51 1 year ago 2
@drewe51 Exactly
Dante31 1 year ago
@kbrazeal90 I disagree. It is work experience and other advanced credentials. Grades are almost worthless in fact. I say that with a 3.9. Who the hell wants to work for you in the first place. Maybe you should get a job first before worrying about hiring me or not.
1dgg9h4dr6ppp8 1 year ago
@kbrazeal90 Grades really are not THAT important in business. There are so many credentials to earn that are respected in business that nobody really cares about such a narrow little thing. Earning your CPA, CFA, MS, and MBA is what matters, not your idiotic 3.9 in your BS in economics. Although, it doesn't hurt. The truth is though, the world prefers a lower gpa with legit work experience to a 4.0. I learned the hard way. I had a 3.9 and can't get a single interview.
1dgg9h4dr6ppp8 1 year ago
@1dgg9h4dr6ppp8 your grades arent the reason you didnt get an interview....
edsoninc 1 year ago
Lets see engineering school guy VS med school guy.
Vinetia 1 year ago
I hate how misleading this video is.
hilg2654 1 year ago
@hilg2654 Misleading? It is the most accurate video of created. You must be at some point in your life that is cloudy, so you can't see that.
1dgg9h4dr6ppp8 1 year ago
I think I will take Law School and my professional doctorate and US Tax, State and Fed. Licenses. When the CEO freaks out because he just committed an SEC violation or an export compliance reg. I, the GC A/K/A corporate God, can tell him I told you so! Read your memos; then, I will tell him I wish I could help out but my private practice is always thriving, I am never unemployed. Oh! But, better place all that on hold because I am going to accept a judicial appointment, congress or president.
Lifeandlaws 1 year ago 3
@Lifeandlaws YOU ARE A RETARD. What tax licenses idiot? Law degrees are not tax licenses. You are DEFINITELY a retard who fell for the law racket. Good luck chump.
1dgg9h4dr6ppp8 1 year ago
Oh, and i'm not sure but i think a "business degree" in the states is a bullshit artsy degree, am i right? Up in Canada, we have business schools but you get degrees in finance/accounting/etc.
missedagain 1 year ago 2
Anyone who thinks that grades don't matter in B-school is a fucking retard.
Who the fuck thinks that a firm is going to hire an analyst that doesn't know his shit to the best of his ability.
I hate shit like this, it makes all b-school people like like lazy retards.
missedagain 1 year ago
how about engineering school guy?
wisestfoolalive 1 year ago
"Actually grades don't really matter for me",For B-School?My ass.
Unless you take Accounting,good luck finding a job after B-School.
Law School has better chances of advancement,if you already have the money and almost no debt,it will definitely be easier finding good jobs.
Firms hate graduate students in debts,just saying.
WarrenAch 1 year ago
@WarrenAch
Who the F graduates from law school with no debt? If you have enough money to do that why are you bothering wasting time at school.
bencoats2000 1 year ago
@bencoats2000 Contacts, scholarships, sponsors, many ways to ensure your education.
If you work hard, you CAN get into a Top School and get a scholarship.
If you're not a hardworker, don't even bother getting into a Law School as you will get raped once you start competing against Yale grads for a Big firm job.
WarrenAch 1 year ago
lawls /b
HonorableTheft 1 year ago
Columbia B-School is barely in the top 10 while the law school is always top 5.
sunil481 1 year ago
personally i eel businbss school is a joke.MBAS ARE NOT WORTH THE money.SPEAKING AS SOMEONE WHO WENT TO BOTH LAW AND BUSINES SCHOOL..
hisholyhoviness 1 year ago
Business School is a load of shit. A business degree sounds good but its like an arts degree. Its still up to you to get of your arse.
apacheslim 1 year ago
wow this is totally fitting the stereotypes of every business student I've ever met- and those idiots haven't even gotten into graduate school yet.
psychology335 1 year ago
I think this video was made by a business school student...
baigandine 1 year ago
Having both a JD and a MBA I can attest that while this video is humorous it is actually a pretty accurate depiction of the 2 degrees.
spykeize 1 year ago
were these guys real students there??
abhi5a 1 year ago
Damn It Feels Good To Be A Banka B-School;p
tezauryzator 1 year ago
what's the H grade?
abhi5a 1 year ago 2
does nate archibald from gossip girl really go to columbia?
if he does, then i will accept my acceptance to columbia instead of U of Pen
hackingtime88 1 year ago
terrible imaging!!! awful advertising!!! message is built up for total idiots ... if you've got those people graduating CBS im very very sorry to you guys =D
mstoliarov 1 year ago 16
cute
puma21puma21 1 year ago
meh, they're both idiots. M(ed)-school girl, that's the place to be :)
dblndaisy 1 year ago
Yeah you MBA's have done great work with the economy.
illuminatus2885 1 year ago
@illuminatus2885 Yeah...ex-lawyers turned politicians didn't fuck up our debt or fannie/freddie right? That 250k law school tuition of yours definitely didn't go to waste...dumbass lol.
rgrmatt69 1 year ago
Wasn't our good President Bush an MBA from Harvard Business school, guess he's not so good with the numbers either.
illuminatus2885 1 year ago
@illuminatus2885 Good point. I was talking about the legislative branch though...
rgrmatt69 1 year ago
@illuminatus2885 Yeah, it's a joke.
Can you imagine what the people who earned their way into Harvard Business thought when they saw that stooge?
I guess it's good that business school is easy... Law school would've left him in disgrace unless his daddy had doled out some oil money to the professors.
marcusaurelius1221 1 year ago
@illuminatus2885
Actually, our problem with the economy is mostly attributed to the economists that are lying for their big paychecks. MBA's count the money-economists decide what to do with it :-)
marinesGIRL01 1 year ago
@marinesGIRL01 Huh? Do you even know what economists do? lol....
rgrmatt69 1 year ago
forget both and go engineering
PrinceJimbo01 1 year ago