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  • you know the ira are hardly terrorist. if anything the sas is more of a terrorist group. the fight for their freedom just like every other at some point

  • proud to say my great great grand daddy killed a britt by cuting his throat.

  • "they got the shock 'f the' lives " and what a long one it was after that ..nice work lads ;)

  • Fuck yourselves your fuck bastard fascists!

  • Tiocfaidh ar lá

  • William your scum.... -_- IRA are freedom fighters not terrorists....

  • @MegaAntar they are called terrorist

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  • i was in ireland 1 year after 9 11, the only cocks singing ira songs in the pubs were stupid fat yanks, make me sick, got quiet there only after clinton agreed to stop the flow of money and arms, and you lot talk about solidarity against terrorists, you must feel so proud of them hitler supporting scum, and i was born in dublin you fucking yank cunts

  • @paranoidnutter Born in Dublin but now in Australia. Whatever. Real Irish are in the West and South anyway. God you're a twat.

  • what a believable story

  • wtf is wrong with all u people arguing on youtube...thats sad people....just watch the vid and hear the facts.end of

  • Ever noticed how Ireland always had relied on Foreign cash to keep it afloat? British Cash from 1690-1922, Marshal aid in 1946 (Even though Ireland supported Hitler and his Jew killing ideas - simply by being cowards and not Figting ww2) and Now Ireland - untill 2008 had lived on E.U handouts. Since Ireland lost their handouts to eastern Europe the Irish got upset and gave in to EU bullying and voted yes to the E.U constitution - now we're all one and the same - Ireland and Britain are dead!

  • I hope SAS carry on wiping the floor with fucking cum like that, im glad their on our side.

  • i think i speak for all of ireland when i say: fuck the fat ugly queen!!!

  • unionist traitors make me wanna kill!!

  • Nice one boys

  • Id of love to heard their dying IRA screams as the bullets tore them up :D That would of been amazing :)

  • Proud British :D

    THE IRA CAN SUCK MY DICK YOU SCUMMY FUCKING PRICKS.

    The Irish Republican Arseholes will never take their shitty country back.

  • Sadly, some innocent people died in this one too, if I remember right?

  • wrong only scum died

  • Err....That would be who cares who wins.

    Still get payed.

  • Yessahh Geordie Speaking, Ceemon. TOON TOON BLACK N WHiTE ARMY !!

  • Aye, KY. The vast majority of British Special Forces are Scots and Geordies. Hardest Cunts out. Products of their environments, Loyal to their Queen. End of.

  • lol these fuckers are still being tracked by the IRA sure only 4 years ago they got a SAS sniper,

  • why so defensive over an organisation which gives your couuntry a bad name?

  • stupid boy!!!

  • wat r u on bout wi teams im talkin bout freedom

  • fuk u u cunt IRA ALL DA WAY IF U JUST LEFT IRELAND 4DA IRISH IT WUD ALL END ND WE WUD STOP KILLIN ENGLISH DAT DESERVE IT

  • Rule Britannia!

  • Republic of Ireland are neutral and refuse to fight/ peacekeep in any foreign wars i thought? No surrender

  • bastards got what they deserved .same as gibarltar .loughall. haha rot in hell bobby sands .

  • yea and we fucked England up with a few bombs u fuckin retard

  • durkah durkah?

    LOL

  • You're an excuse for a man. And an excuse for a Scot. Have some self-respect.

    Can I ask you, if both sides were armed equally, who do you think would win? Those defending their soil, or those just paid a wage defending a place that even they think is Ireland, albeit a part of the UK?

    Wake up. Decent young men are dying in Afghanistan for making the same mistake. They are fighting tribes that were once armed by CIA to fight Russia. And now they have more invaders. Poor people have no friends.

  • He named 'children'. Do yiu think in any circumstance that its ok to describe the shooting dead of children in that way? LIve by the sword, die by the sword. I admire any nation and any soldier of any nation, but if you are oppressing a people, you deserve to be shot at. You are, after all, carrying a gun and better armed and supported. That is war. Look at Stalingrad.

    Because you have no sympathy, the rotten cycle will continue. I admire my British armed force cousins. Not on my soil though

  • The flag of the Republic of Ireland has an orange stripe, not yellow. Just how thick are you?

    The orange is there to represent the followers of William of Orange, in a combined Republican ideal that so many great Protestants (Wolfe Tone) and others fought for. A right for people to rule themselves. Why cling to something you're not and disparage something you are? That's very sad.

  • The Republic's troops serve abroad constantly actively helping people in peacekeeping and peace enforcement. Why don't you know that?

    Should they instead be killing the very people they armed and fought beside, like the British currently do in Afghanistan? Nothing wrong with being proud of being British. But when your pride involves disrespecting others (who your armed forces admired as adversaries in the past), then you are doing your own armed forces much disrespect. The mark of a child

  • SAS ha ha .Check the stats u unionist cunts. S.Armagh brigade kicked all sorts of british armed forces in the ass.The I.R.A are in government now think about it everyday ur grip on ireland loosins.british occupation of ireland will end.32

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  • Actually little fish the whole delta force thing is crap the SAS are the best trained soldiers in the world. As a matter of fact I was watching an american show the other day ultimate warrior and the yanks went up against the spetsnaz (russian special forces) and the americans lost ! Oh great vid 3 more gone and the SAS move on .

  • you probably right but there is something that feels like i just like the US delta force though i not saying they better than sas it just i kinda like us delta force they do do a good job though and so do the sas

  • War is War. IRA men die. Brit SAS men die. The difference is the IRA were killed on their own soil by the SAS. And the other time, in a foreign country. But that's the history of Britain, isn't it?

    Of course the IRA have committed atrocities. But if you ask yourself why they stood up as men and were counted in 1919-21 and in 1969-71, you will know that innocent people were being hurt. Ordinary decent people, just like ordinary decent Brits.

  • Yeh sure there training is based on SAS training dickhead. Delta Force are never trained in guerilla or counter revolutionary warfare. SAS are the basis for how all special forces should be.

  • well done lads. I hope the ra cunts rot in hell

  • Did that soilder discribe how there chiled killers?

  • the SAS don't mess about. Funny the IRA gave up soon after they got involved

  • sas were as bad as ira

    "tough interrogations" usually on the wrong left many innocent catholica with broken limbs and at least 1 in a coma

    turned out he was innocent

  • Francis Hughes showed these 'special' forces, ambush went to shite when Hughes returened fire eh?

  • @BhearnaBhaoil What? The one who was shot and surrenderd?

  • Lol its funny. The brits oppressed us for 800 years. 30 odd years of an IRA campaign and the whole world knows about it cause they WHINGED SO FUCKING MUCH!

  • fuck you, you sick fuck. the IRA put bombs in prams n murder woman and children. the sas dont do that ONLY TERRORISTS do that. The SAS are soldiers anc they wont shoot unarmed BOYS collecting a pizza.

  • Ever hear of bloody sunday? Ever hear of the SAS giving IRA names (usually wrong) to loyalist paramilitaries to assist in assasinations? When did the IRA put bombs in prams? The British army created the IRA by oppressing catholics in the north. Do a bit of reading on this and you will be surprised to hear that your government has stood by while the catholics in NI were oppressed, not allowed in government, not allowed to work, murdered, beaten, had no rights. Erin go bragh!!!!!!!!!!

  • the IRA are the best u ass hole

  • All informer lead intell,any monkey couldve pulled those triggers,when it came to actual combat they were decidedly average.19 fuckin 80,still goin on about it,a few chimps slide down a rope,smash a window,toss a few grenades then murder a couple of amateur "terrorists",big fuckin deal.What about the wholesale rape of Argentine conscripts in the Port Stanley Primary School in Malvinas,a tactic employed to "demoralise" them.Ther were plenty of vols for that duty.Dirty,dick lovin homo SAS.FACT.

  • No surrender to the IRA scum

    You'll never have one Ireland!!! HAHAHAHA

  • ira are cowards kill fathers in front of kids and kill men unarmed only way they can get some kills in before they get raped

  • and what did the brits do to normal people?

    walk the people around?

    help them across the streeet?

    u know nothing

  • And what do you know you shit for brains idiot?

    Half the IRA's stupid attempts to blow us up in ireland blew up their own people instead?

    Fucking Idiot.

  • da british started dis nd da IRA r gonna finish it da only way ye no hw 2 is kill everyone of ye till ye r ou of da north

  • No you mean the more terrorists we kill the more innocent N.irish and English, Scottish and Welsh coppers or soldiers you'll cowardly kill even when off duty and un-armed when they are civillians. Up Britain, Up the Irish republic and death to the Ira.

  • Rough justice, but justice nonetheless. Nicely done, lads.

  • yeah so you think justice is killing soliders like robert neraq well done to the RA for stiffing a british SAS spy hope the pigs ate well that night

  • No, justice is killing terrorists like the three who were cleaned from Northern Ireland in the incident this video represents.

  • well you do know that the only terrerists in the world are the english not one country like you if you can tell me one ill take it all back also tell me one culteral thing england has apart from invading and slaughtering innocents

  • sas simply the best, the ira shit there selfs, when thatcher let her boys loose. the guiness runing through them, had nothing to do with the shitty pants, that were clean, before the slightest mention that the regiment were given a license to go kick the arse off these civillian murdering scumbags.

  • Tiocfáidh Ár Lá

  • Actually

    'your day wont come'

    cus we'll just kill all you fuckers if you try again

    scumbags

  • Fuck Off Do One Ya Slong We Will Be Free Ya ill Rared Cuntface

  • bullshit man!

    bullshit

  • Dead On Do 1 Mate

  • Kill all of us?You had 800 years to do it and you could'nt.What makes you so confident now?I would love to see your shithole of a country try invade Eire.You would get raped.Cant beat us on home soil....EVER.

  • 800 is bullshit. Even as late as 1600 the only part of Irleland we controlled was Dublin otherwise known as the pake of Dublin. Rest of Ireland was still owned by celtic tribes. We only consolidated Brit rule in Ireland at battle of Boyne with Prod soliders of Charles 1 against catholic British soldiers of Catholic former king James 1

  • I agree. Until 1607, the Flight of the Earls. Or even 1641, the confederate war. There was no administrative English control in th 100% sense until mid 1600's.

    And Ireland unfortunately became a battleground for European wars, much as The Spanish Republic did, pre_WW2. It is weak & disingenuous to harp back 800 years in our history and claim that the Normans were English. As a Republican who believes in truth, I refute hamfisted arguments that simplify the precious complex lives of our ancestors

  • religion, gots to love it.

  • any of them members that shot them raa men should never haft to pay for anything again.lol

  • Reality Check! IRA Monuments all over Northern Ireland+IRA Still call the Shots politically,SAS ?(FRU)check up online,old men telling taller tales as time goes bye, swallow the propaganda those who are too young to have lived through it, in my experience making deliveries across Armagh & Tyrone I was stopped more often by IRA than any Security force foot patrols,re SAS,anyone interested research the case of the SAS captain captured & killed by the IRA near Drunimtee,his body never recovered

  • Get the fuck over it, no matter what reason did Britian invaded Ireland, we still give you's a good thrashing... Simple. Can't argue with that. And about all these starving the Irish, we suffered in in world war 2 so don't give 'us that bollocks.

  • all irish suffered protestants and catholics, the irish just cant get over it.

    deport all IRA supporters ot Ireland

  • I've gotten over it. If you go to Ireland you'll realise that people are living in the present not the past.

  • oh really?

    what about the ardoyne riots, and sinn fein defending the rioters sayiung the police shouldnt have "wound them up"

    im gald i dont live in belfast because they are still living in 1930

  • The only reason there are still IRA supporters in Ireland and elsewhere is because the UK still occupies NI. The IRA will always exist as long as the UK owns NI. I personally think its a good thing that NI is the UK cuz everythings cheaper there and all I've to do is drive across the border instead of taking the ferry.

  • get over, its all right for u sayin that but u obvisiouly know fuck all about the shit that went on in the north, its ok for u in fuckin england suckin ur mother tits while people imn the north could hardly go for a shit without trouble startin all around them so stom commentin on somethin u know absolutly fuck all about

  • I live outside belfast ye cunt!

  • More British Walter Mitty Fantasy. The IRA walked the streets while the great british army hid in helicopters and fortified bases afraid of the dark.

  • Well, yes, its called common sense, why would they patrol the streets at dark? the perfect time for ambushes? And the IRA could walk the streets anytime as you cant tell if they are IRA or not, they never wore a uniform constantly to show who they are, so who was afraid of who? As they knew direct warfare with the British would absolutely destroy them. And while the ordianry soldiers stayed at bases the SAS used the cover of night to hunt down IRA leaders or figure heads, check it up online.

  • sas vs ira is like brazil vs san marino. the ira have no chance

  • well said bamo

  • sorry I belive the spetnatz are the most feared buddy and plus I think that ira is a little beatter then sas because there knowledge of explosives and how they work

  • Please say you are joking,the IRA are better because of their knowledge of explosives? The SAS use explosives constantly, they are explosive experts, setting traps, serving in highly confidential missions, they have gone through agonising training, can operate in any condition espacilly desert terrain, you drop a squad of IRA in the middle of the desert or warzone along with a squad of SAS, see who comes out alive and better, as my money is highly rolling on the SAS.You cannot compare IRA to SAS

  • Comapring the IRA to the SAS is like comparing a child in a fight to mike tyson, now comparing the IRA to an ordianry soldier is a little more realistic, but still not better. The IRA dont have the training and experties to make a better comaprison out of them to an average soldier.Pitted in an open fight they would lose, why do you think they use Gurialla warfare? Why do you think the modern IRA are classed as terroists? Because they use terror tactics as a 1 v 1 fight clean out, they will lose

  • The RA do have lots of training but in certain areas like guns and bombs. They wouldn't have hand to hand combat and all sorts of special training that the SAS do. They don't need it. In a real war the IRA wouldn't stand a chance. Geurilla warfare shows that a small group with limited resources can take on a whole army.

    I heard a story about the Finnish fighting the Russians and they beat them cuz they drove them outta Finland cuz they used geurilla tactics. Can't remember what war it was.

  • I agree completely, take the North Vietnamese for example, such a small guerrilla force armed with WW2 guns against the American war machine, they drove them into surrender, to be quite honest, its impossible to defeat a guerrilla force without inflicting horrific civilian casualties, as guerrilla's rely on civilian support. But the modern day IRA i disagree with, they are modern day terrorists, targeting civilian targets such as police stations, its disgusting.

  • you should all just fuck off, you have no idea what ur talkn about especially the americans

  • haha its funny the brittish government prolly pays a big sum of money to train sas men yet IRA men still caused more damage eventhough there just ordinary men with a cause. OH ya oand the only terroristsis the british government but ye ordinary brits are too thick to see that!

  • haha u sumb fuck i bet your american lol go get 1 off your buildings blowin up again from a black basdad your countrie get blown up bey muslems LOL

  • So Instead of arresting them, Like a Civil being They decided to murder them they knew it was there car they could of stopped them but no wait till they pass 4 times dont stop them no wait for them to click yes heroes!!! heroes !!

    What next? set a mines in a school sandpit?

  • The IRA had to be caught in the act to be arrested. British Intellegence knew who they were, but couldnt catch them in the act most of the time. So the SAS set traps and sorted them out. Problem solved.

  • scum doesnt deserve to be arrested,only wish there were more in the car for the sas to put down.sas all the way

  • are you really that retarded!!! they waited for them to react first, which they did, who fired the first shots!!? the ira, who protected themselves and got rid of 3 dirty fucking terrorists that were and are no better than the taliban! anyone that supports the ira or feels they did nothing wrong deserves to be hung as they themselves are terrorists, i suppose you guys think that the taliban are nice people and want to invite bin laden around for dinner!!

  • God loves the freedom fighters of the IRA!!!

  • Three terrorists cleaned from the streets of the United Kingdom, nice and quick. Thanks, lads.

  • BOOO!, IRA FTW! Both Special operatives are pretty much equal RudikRus1 (S.A.S and Spetsnaz).But on the other I would love to See an S.A.S member fight a Marine raider or more so Delta,S.A.S not a contender. Reason why we support the IRA is because, the Fucking UK has held a piece of Ireland for a merely 800 hundred years They wanted it back. As for the ARAB "Scum", they have nuclear armaments in some cases,seems to be more of a potential threat.Other various reasons why we attacked the ME.

  • another yank supporting the IRA, lol. dont like the arabs killing your people though, do you? How many countries has the US repressed? As for delta, they are shit! General Schwarzkopff who led the coalitiion during Gulf War 1, didnt trust special forces until he seen the SBS and SAS in action.

  • Oh Bullshit man!!

    How come its always the fucking states who wants the SAS to do the tough shit that their own boys can't eh?

    Shit, Man!

    How come the only American people who really appreciate how great British Soldiers are, are American Soldiers themselves? Fucks Sake!

  • because they are whimps

    dont spam ur useless comments undefeated army

  • @droid98756 I love British troops. They are well respect in the US. Don't believe watch the Video British troops land a DFW.

  • fuck sas they lucky every now and then besides they cant kill the ira in the long run, and aside from that and fucking england and britain stayed in their own goddam country we wouldnt be in this fucking mess your the invading cunts fuck off

  • The SAS were happily wiping out the IRA in the 80s, its only because of the US poking their nose in they stopped. I like the Irish and would love to see a peaceful united Ireland. But you yanks dont have clue. Look at what your government is doing before you criticise others. If Irish Americans are so proud of their roots, why did their ancestors leave for America instaed of fighting for their homeland?

  • If Irish Americans are so proud of their roots, why did their ancestors leave for America instaed of fighting for their homeland? Beacause Brit wankers Starved ireland to death caused poverty for hundreds of years so yes if they didnt go to the US they would of proberbly starved

  • So what your saying then, is they ran to the US rather than fight for their homeland? And dont forget, the Irish werent welcome in America at first. I agree Ireland should be united and Britain has no business there. But rather that negotiate peace and independence the IRA was formed. Fair enough, every country has its freedom fighters, but dont complain when our special forces give you a bit of pay back.

  • to late now pal, part of ireland is ours

  • Special Assination Service. Fucking awesome!

    Although I do agree Ireland should be one, think of the tax money we would save!

  • Awesome, send the SAS back into Ulster now!

  • I Dont think that the SAS should go to Ireland fuck sake there an Elite Force. they should get summat like the army or summat no SAS there too fukin good to be out there

  • Agreed, a few fucktard republican chavs hardly merit the attention of elite special forces. A dozen Millwall fans would probably deal with them quite adequately.

  • Yea m8 Millwall fans Lol

  • lol, The only "Americans" in America are the Red Indians, hence why the politically correct term is NATIVE Americans.

  • Shame the SAS had to waste their impressive talent for killing on pikey scum like the IRA. Still, all the same, props to the real warriors, the SAS.

  • More like real oppresors.

  • Yes because shooting terrorist scum who blow up people for their pathetic "causes" (read:excuse to kill people) is oh so oppressive.

    Youre from the States I see. Tell me, would shooting those Arab scumbags who flew those planes into the world trade center be ""oppressive"?

    I always did say I bet yank scum support for IRA through shit like NORAID hit rock bottom when those towers came crashing down. Not so righteous when its your people being murdered, is it?

  • I would like to see Spetsnaz go against the SAS.

  • They aready have

  • UP THE RA!

  • You from scotland mogroov

  • Fuck those sons of bitches and all you cowardly assholes who support them We didn't come into your goddamn country and murder your people so get the fuck out of ours And for all you who want to talk about the IRA bombs in England, consider it long overdue after oliver cromwell's campaign, forming a naval blockade to stop aid from reaching us during the famine, and all the murders, attrocities, and human rights violations committed by the british army during it's hostile occupation of our country

  • love hearin about the scum gettin blown away. NO SURRENDER!!

  • war, any kind of warfare is not about doing what makes you 'a real man' that will get you killed. it is about doing what you can to win, the SAS had a better tactic and knew they were cooming. the IRA were simply doing a driveby which is hardly courageous, especially against an unarmed lorry driver. and in terms of military training the SAS are better. the IRA are citizen soldiers, that doesnt mean thier dumb but it does mean that the majority are untrained men with a gun.

  • the brave shoot you in the back sas,if the ira were that afraid of the sas theyd never join,hiding in bushes then shooting people from behindthats real hard men and they think theyre better than the ira,another british myth,and by the way i dont support the ira but it annoys me how they drive people into it,plenty of sas killed in n ire no plaqes or comms for them ira guys remembered for ever who is the loser then and who is the hero

  • So I guess the British army are retarded and lack common sense for not letting the Germans invade in the 40's? Resistance to invasion seems pretty sensible to me.

  • resistance to invasion is a common function, but i fail to see this as an invasion. perhaps back in the days of william of orange, but not the 20th cent.

  • I am retorting to your comment because you called the men "low lives" and "retarded", it is clearly evident the men weren't, you appear to fall for the stereoptype that all ira members were unemployed 'yobs'. There is a reason that these men gave there lives for their beliefs, they did not have to get involved but they chose to, i realise that it is futile to explain why these men did what they did but you should not be so quick to prejudge these men without knowing them

  • Harte was a retard? the man was an architect with a third level education, what qualifications do you have yourself?

  • The point of that retarded statement was? like I said.. MAYBE YOU SHOULD READ ARMY REPORTS.. oh yes, British army reports ;)

  • Invading a country to rape it's oil supplies is an act of terrorism.. fact ;)

  • FACT? Prove it then?

  • prove that invading a country for economical gain is an act of terrorism? LMFAO! discussion over come back when u have a brain..

  • 'prove that invading a country for economical gain is an act of terrorism? '?Yeah, discussion over boy, plastic paddy not knowing what he's gobbibg off about, ye cant beat it? Go home ya tit

  • nice comeback :)) u lose

  • ?Eh, aye, good one Boy, British at that!

  • Any sneaky cunt (UVR or IRA - both the same)can shoot a soldier standing on a street corner ..but when the SAS come knocking for you better run for yer mamy !!

    the SAS, SBS have done thousands of professional deployments with tougher ppl that these weekend wannabe's

  • weekend wannabes? maybe you should read army reports lol

    It describes the IRA as "a professional, dedicated, highly skilled and resilient force", while loyalist paramilitaries and other republican groups are described as "little more than a collection of gangsters".

    Source - The BBC ;)

  • SAS Could Invade Ireland

  • yeah, forcing an outnumbered enemy that you never managed to defeat to a lasting ceasefire and peace agreement and then invade their country... that sounds like a typical british idea, absolutely.

    by the way, no they couldn't and that for many reasons you know that!

  • lol

  • nah executed 38 IRA..

  • What can you do when you have moronic people stuck in the past?... The IRA... Their not an Army their a Terrorist Organisation they fight for nothing but terror and making the world a worse place and thats plain and simple FACT!.

  • So what do you call invading Iraq? I call that terrorism, and what about afghanistan? I mean, at least with Iraq there was the old "tyrant running the country" excuse.. :)

  • Afghanistan? Nothing to do wi the fact it was harbouring Bin Laden and refused to give him up. I mean he was only responsible for the biggest single act of terror in the world, think that might've had something to do wi it, possibly? Oh wait, dont tell me, the US government done it?

  • Who harbored and refused to give him up? There's not even a shred of HARD evidence Bin Laden was in Afghanistan.. Surely if he was your mighty British army would have found him by now...

  • So he WASN'T in Afghan? Christ forget it then ya tarrier fuckwit! Can see your minds made up!

  • UP THE RA

  • The IRA can go pound dirt. SAS rocks!

  • I think both are wrong.

  • HA - I find the title of this video somewhat fictional - considering that the BRITISH ARMY publically announced in 2007 that they were UNABLE to defeat the IRA!

  • They had a treaty, which has now been broken by the IRA.

  • Ask yourself WHY...!

  • Who had a treaty? The real IRA never signed it.

    The UDA didnt declare a cease fire until 2007 and still have not turned over any weapons.

    So what treaty is there? The Provos signed on, the UDA didnt.

    The RIRA, LVF, UFF, CIRA all failed to sign on. And there have been killings over the years you fuckin Hypocrite.

    So please, do yourself and all of us a favor and shut the fuck up.

  • sas were monsters back then

  • I confess, I was once a dog of war for a tyrannical force, just like those who've succumbed to the "authority" of the SAS...

    I hope those awful dogs of war learn the same lesson I did- that fighting against a freedom loving people, for the sake of subjegation and tyranny... well, it's just an opportunity to lose mates in a never-ending fray.

    Let Ireland be free! Let Scotland be free! Fuck the Queen... she is just some broad anyway!

  • brockal ,subjegation and tyranny...what the fuck are you on about...are you on drugs....bet you have never been in ireland/n.ireland(uk)

  • Who's the one never been in NI? I feel "subjegation and tyranny" goes quite well with the reality. See that's the problem you guys never understand your wrongs and have nothing better than justifying something that can't be justified!