Politically Incorrect, Tim McVeigh's Death Part 2

[jarell19]

KRS-one is good for a minute until some secrets guys try and get him. Remember what happened to Micheal Todd. It is said but true.

[thedailyblazer]

krs one is a "philosopher". good tag!

[djansen151]

Take Thomas Jefferson at his word, " The tree of liberty needs refreshed time to time with the blood of tyrants and patriots" Timothy McVeigh was a patriot. People argue he is an animal because he killed 20 children. Our government killed 17-25 kids at Waco, and a 14 year old at Ruby Ridge. No one goes on the news and condemns them or calls them animals. It just becomes a "tragic event" that they blame on the victims. One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

[djansen151]

So Mahr is a freedom hating libertarian?? We do have the right to "stockpile weapons"... in the case of David Koresh, who sold guns, his "stockpile" might also be called an inventory. We all need to remember that the 2nd amendment isn't about hunting. It's your right to stockpile weapons and have the means to protect yourself against a tyrannical government. They don't teach that shit in High School Government.

[STONRUNNIT]

Krs1 was the brightest on the panel!! He closed the show with..

" the death penalty teaches our children that revenge through violence is wrong. The government has taught our children that compassion and forvgiveness is not the ultimate virtue but violence is"- Krs1

[STONRUNNIT]

KRS1 FOR PRESIDENT!!

[GunRyd3r]

Killing doesn't bring "closure" it all comes down to the simplest word "sorry". True Rehabilitation, not just saying I'm sorry. Lowering yourself to their level and taking vengeance doesn't make you better than them. No one won when we killed Bin Laden. The worst pain you can put them through is to make them understand what they did, the horror they caused. Then you don't release them from that pain by killing them you make them live with it.

[Mandalore863]

@GunRyd3r only problem is some people will just simply never understand no matter how hard to try to make them. . . that argument does not always work.

[grands1am]

Maher shilling hard here, just not listening

[TXejas19]

ayesha taylor sounds level headed, the guy with dreads contridicts himself to the point i shut him out

[TXejas19]

they all SOUND wrong simply because they use extreme situations or ideals for the general law...gross

[BigJCPatten21]

Im white and I liked the black guy lol. He made lots of sense, granted yes his first statement sounded pretty unenlightened but the rest showed much insight

[wertn09]

its funny to watch niggers argue

[wpfairbanks]

Why are people ripping Maher? The black guy and the jew were nuts. Especially the former. He wasn't even coherent.

[mmeditatio]

@wpfairbanks Everyone on this video was dumb, including Maher.

[Yerizzo]

Is Maher this dumb?

[MrWorldsEnemy]

4:45 and shortly there after makes me think of A FEW GOOD MEN! " You want me on that wall, you need me on that wall".

[sydgrimes]

bill act like he don't know!

[bajoverga]

Hey Bill, how's that global warming treating us now? It's currently -21 in Minnesota.

[LiBlub1]

@bajoverga Do you know the difference between climate and weather?

[slickbtk]

@bajoverga lol right on brother

[louiscfc93]

@bajoverga idiot

[11KmPerSec]

Bravo KRS-ONE. Beautifully done.

[EllaBelle18]

That black guy sounds like an anarchist.

[louiscfc93]

@EllaBelle18 the big guy is the only one with a brain and doesnt think like a fuckin moronic american

[slickbtk]

@louiscfc93 He makes those two woman and especially maher look like the ignorant dumb fools that they are

[DjHopies07]

KRS Should Of Said - Why do we kill people who kill people to show people that killing people is wrong?

[bwc3821]

I'm against the death penalty but Bill has it right. IF we are going to impose the death penalty, let's at least be honest about it. The ONY purpose it serves is vengeance.

[CMob09]

USA is mad, killing is bad glad UK don't have the death penalty. Life in prison is a good punishment because sometimes innocent people are later to be found innocent over here.

[Churchx77]

Goddamn I love me some Aisha Tyler. She's so fucking right everytime.

[2edsajdmsa]

If the state takes the position that killing is morally corrupt and therefore punishable accordingly, that sate shouldn't then turn around and make itself guilty of the same crime its punishing.

I'm an Atheist and I think Bill Mahers position is 100% indefensible. and I agree with him on 90% of the issues.

[FungusMossGnosis]

7:53 : title under KRS-One reads: "Philosopher"! Hehe. Why not?

Bill's title should read: "Host / Received Opinion Stooge".

Hey, librarien - I really don't know how you could agree with Aisha Taylor here. What a nitwit she is. At least Jean Smart (good actress btw) looked like she was trying to listen, and kept her mouth shut when she had nothing worthwhile to give.

[grands1am]

Shut up, Bill. Shut up, Aisha.

[ernstashcane]

This program should have been called "Shouting competition" -_-

[ChelskiBonjourino]

The men are speaking sense here and everytime they try to put across their argument across, they get shouted down. This is wrong.

[FungusMossGnosis]

@ChelskiBonjourino

So you agree, that Bill is not a man?

[n0s1r]

5:08 notice how KRS makes the point that "democracy is mob rule" and the others try to combat him on that point, so he states "we don't know how the vote would have went" and THEN Bill turns to crowd for a vote!

Bill made KRS's point FOR HIM. There was no vote, there was no democracy, the only place where the matter was DEMOCRATICALLY decided was on the set of Politically Incorrect, AFTER THE FACT.

[n0s1r]

They do not get what KRS is saying at all... The simple question he is asking them is "If it's not right for YOU to do it, what makes it right for the GOVERNMENT to do it?"

I'll illustrate this point even further, we are supposedly a representative democracy, yes? So the government is supposed to represent US, so if that is the case, how can the GOVERNMENT be representing US by doing something that WE are not allowed to do? Do you get it?

[RivaWitch]

Civilization is not Civil!

[homonecan]

can't someone tell that black bitch to shut the fuck up for a while? if someone told her that just because she is pretty whatever she says must be accepted as an axiom then he was wrong.

SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU CUNT!

[MERCURHILLMANIAC]

maher is the biggest asshole ive ever seen..i would personally love to slap the shit right out of him...FRIGGIN BOOT LICKER!

[costasra]

You could kill an innocent person!

That's the best argument against the death-penalty and I never hear it in discussions about it.

[painxtreme]

KRS One is a brilliant man. Every time he tried to posit an argument, he was shouted down. Even Real Time is getting to be this way. Yet another Crossfire. God help Maher if John Stewart is ever on his panel.

[TheFieldOfWeed]

Then again, I can see the death penalty as being barbaric, I'm really conflicted in my opinion of this issue.

[whato1986]

I love these old politically incorrect clips! they're very interesting, thanks for uploading!

[bigdogrg12]

wow that black dude is dumb

[danimal2888]

I thought Terry Nichols went down for the Oklahoma City bombing too and he's rotting in jail right now.

[cartfu11]

i dont think the death penalty should exist

its the easy way out for criminals

i think he should have gotten raped in the ass

just like every other criminal in prison

[Chslosers]

He didn't though. He was held in high respect.

[TheFieldOfWeed]

@cartfu11 I used to think the death penalty was the easy way out, too. Freedom from any guilt a criminal may feel. But at the same time, some criminals are remorseless, and all we're doing is wasting money keeping them alive, and even giving them free opportunities, like schooling, that honest citizens have to work their asses off for. In some cases, like with paedophiles, we should torture the foul motherfuckers and destroy them, as slowly and as agonisingly as possible.

[dolganthecute]

@TheFieldOfWeed exactly honest people have to pay for theyr incarseration, wile buisness men reap the profit. how sick is it that people can make money of putting people to jail? modern slavery imo.. the 3 strikes rule is sick you basicly can get life in prison for smoking weed.

[TheFieldOfWeed]

@dolganthecute It's even more sickening that in Canada, psychopaths like Karla Homolka are let free after very little time served. My father's friend ventured down to Texas in the 1970's, was caught with a roach in his car, and sentenced to fifteen years in prison. He served the entire sentence in Texas. The law is so fucked. In all countries, really.

[DobermansRock]

I will never watch this ignorant asshole again.....

[Desmund20]

KRS-One Hip-hop hero, philisophical legend!!!

[DebbyNJ]

Aisha's dress is bugging me. The left shoulder looks ripped. Ruins the look.

[FIGHTFANNERD3]

glad to see your thinking

[fan0frammstein88]

Bill Mayer is such an asshole

[mike7743]

it's Maher, get it right!

[siiruz13]

we aren't a democracy. we are a representative democrasy!

[michaelcjordan]

@siiruz13 No, we live in an oligarchy, We're supposed to live in a democracy, not a direct democracy, but a democracy none the less.

[KillPyrite]

@siiruz13 Representative democracy, and yes.

[siiruz13]

self defense?! it's called vigilanteism!

[jilbafaron]

This is a horrible show. Real Time so much better.

[FIGHTFANNERD3]

its same thing

[Jasonstarwalker]

I heartily agree with the Rapper. Respect for the black guy! All others are bullshitting!

[Jasonstarwalker]

Except the white guest too.

[xgs724]

the white guy and the black guy are right, the white woman and the black woman are wrong

[Gunnariffic]

This KRS-One guy does make alot of sense and his ideas are not crazy he just fails to elaborate on them enough for the rest to understand what he's trying to say.

[toxzen]

I agree with Bill Mayer and Aisha here except for the death penalty. I don't believe in an eye for an eye. The whole wild west idea that KRS-One and the bald guy propose is just ludicrous to me.

I'd also like to add that as an atheist I find it funny that America, a country where the pop. is majority christian would advocate the death penalty. Christianity, a religion that the adherents claim to be about love and forgiveness. All I see is hate and vengeance with these people. Sad really.

[Darkydrago]

What's wrong with the belief that a person should be punished with the same amount of pain that they dish out upon others? Can you honestly say McVeigh deserved to live?

[toxzen]

I see people gleeing with pleasure at Tim's death. The same sadistic glee that he had when he bombed that building. To me, that makes those people no different than him. And I'm sure you'll say that those people deserve to live. So yes, I believe that he deserves to live. Albeit in the prison system.

I'd also like to add that it is to my knowledge that amongst western 1st world countries the US is the only one that still imposes the death penalty. Correct me if I am wrong there.

[LiBlub1]

@toxzen You aren't! Canada nor any country in europe still has the death penalty, and if any one would reinstate it they wouldn't be civilized enough to be counted as a 1st world country!

[Mandalore863]

@toxzen uh. . . yes it does make them different!! Hate and malice can be virtuous!! Think about it. Tim bombed a building and caused major harm, what reason is there not to despise this man?? Those people who want him dead?? Their anger is completely justified.

[AsherSax]

Well, if you think about it, more people have died in the history of mankind for God (or whatever they worship in their religion) thank for any other reason. So maybe that's just the good old hypocritical way of Christianity: "Love and forgive one another, but if you don't believe in our God, you're gonna burn forever!!!"

Gotta love it. lol

[IamCanadian3333]

I have to disagree with part of your statement. The religion itself says love and forgive, just some of the people that claim to follow it are the hypocrites.

[102102020]

People who trust the government are either sheep or gullible

[SteveStap1]

The audiences applause was nearly half. !!That says a lot . Mathematics determines that the handing out of death by anyone other than god is wrong. In math, two negatives being multiplied equal a positive. Life is different, what is considered a multiple sign in life? Until that can be established-The death penalty is wrong. Societies are still very early in evolutionary developement. Looking back, The unwise and wise clash, a single string can make many tunes.

[ilove1994]

Tim is my hero so shut up ya Goverment .

[MrMidwest]

I don't understand what the KRS guy is saying. He says that people should be able to carry out the death penalty themselves, but then he says we don't value forgiveness anymore.

[SteveStap1]

what don't you understand?

[MrMidwest]

It sounds like he's contradicting himself.

[soul416]

No America is a DEMOCRACY - what century are you living in? Really? We have representatives - no shit. But republic has the people in the country, not the reps that IMPACT the Government. When have regular people in this country actually IMPACTED the Government, not never. The plan from the beginning was to steal the land off of original settlers and then control everyone. Welcome to how things are now.

[dingotamer]

Right, America is a republic, that's what the founding fathers said. I think that what KRS-One is talking about is the idea of the people's voice, and that voice is no longer heard. At least he has the integrity to say that we can't expect a government to look out for us; especially when pitted against what clearly seem to be federalist shills. Isn't that a fundamental part of our country in the first place?

[standardspacedf]

KRS-One got it wrong...America is a republic, not a majority rules democracy. We are supposed to have representatives representing us so we don't have mob rule. That was the plan from the beginning.

[eminemlovexx]

krs-one's face scares me

[SteveStap1]

Actually, The United States of America is considered a Democracy. Check mate!

[tw3900]

when is this discussion taken? i mean the date?is this this year?

[aardvarkbilly]

Tim McVeigh was executed in June 2001.

[killyoufilmsinc]

mate no they faked his death hes alive .

[busherbee]

republikans always have to SPIN their policies by extensive b.s.ing can't get a direct answer to a completely neutral question