Worms Reloaded sucks. I have it on Steam and never play it. To be honest, I wish that I had never paid for it. I play W:A regularly (I'm skunk3) and the only "advantages" that WR has is better graphics and the ability to wear hats. Anyone that thinks Reloaded is a better game has obviously not played Armageddon online with the newest updates. Reloaded is a fun game in its own right, but compared to W:A it just sucks.
@clankbolt222 Good Graphics can never make a game Better than another. Yes things look cooler but i'd rather be able to do cooler things than do things which are lamer than what they actually are.
Stop fighting, they are both decent games, yeah they each have cons, but they have pros too. (If you ask me I do prefer Armageddon, but just because I like the graphics. I think it looks better.) I prefer W4M over these both though.
Worms Reloaded is an upgrade of the first one for the PSP, that's the reason of many of the things you mention (specially the UI)... But what about the new physics engine?? It's so fucking amazing I don't wanna play WA anymore. And there is f-key grouping btw
worms reloaded looks like a downgrade of worms armageddon :P and the multiplayer suck so bad, cause it takes almost 2 minutes to switch turns, in wa it is almost instant... oh, yeah, the rope, jumps and schemmes sux
So on the one hand you say "The editors lack so many options the Worms 2 editors offered" concerning the WA editor, but defend the WR Editor, which doesnt even deserve to be called and the controls are too consolish because its a complete consoleport. Menues can be definitly done better for a PC because u have a mouse and a keyboard and not a controller.
And I almost find no online games even on worldwide seeking range!!
"To get it across to you" why some people prefer WA
es cierto lo de las pantallas grandes. Pero en el worms armageddon hay objetos que facilitan demasiado la partida y eso no creo que sea una ventaja del juego. WA es mas facil, y eso hace que el jugador que empiece primero tenga una ventaja casi definitiva. Worms Reloaded es mas dificil y no por ello es una desventaja, creo que se hace mas uso de la estrategia y la habilidad, y que el primer turno no da tanta ventaja. Worms 4ever!
They should have sticked to the original schema......They changed way to much around...when on the rope it feels like you weigh one hundred pounds......and why the hell would they get rid of 3 of the 5 jumps. And the weapon selection menu.....do i even need to elaborate?.............
Lol what a fool you are. Everything, EVERY SINGLE THING that can be done in WA with the rope can also be done in WR. You cannot just try to "import" your WA rope skills to a whole different game and expect it to work, you IDIOT.
@cueshark First, stop jargonizing, please, that's just annoying. And second that wasn't my point. The rope works different and thus you OF COURSE have to think of different tricks. Also "Worms Reloaded vs Worms Armageddon" is a retarded title considering the vid mainly compares the respective ropes to each other.
"Worms" isn't a slowed down, turn based racing game, folks. Well, Worms Armageddon may is, but not Worms Reloaded.
@scjuttoh Ok. Well show me any trick with the WR rope then? Worms is kinda what you want it to be. I play all sorts of schemes. I wouldn't care to engage in an argument about wa vs wr generally. My response is purely to do with the ninja rope in WR. I think it's a tragedy. My opinion that's all. You can't really pull of tricks with it because it totally lacks useability beyond basic functions.
@cueshark Guess you are right. However, as for deathmatches the rope's on the perfect. Not too difficult but also not too overpowered. I mean, if I remember Worms United... the rope is meant to be a moving tool that lets you pass far distances and shoot in the same turn, but therefore requires skill, unlike the teleporter.
@cueshark Also sorry for raging. But see, this clip is called "W:A vs W:R", and half of the issues shown relate to the rope, proving again how many people play W:A almost just for it, which is just said. It's simply not Worms.
The gameplay related issues are rather insignificant, too, and the author lies about it. For example, roping vertically is not difficult, he just didn't put any effort on it. As well as you can enhance speed by wall bouncing, use the chute and f-keys, chat between turns..
@scjuttoh the whole weapon system is a pain in the ass not just the roping, not to mention the lobby that after half a year still looks consolish because Reloaded is a pure Consoleport.
Creating Shemes didnt try that one now but i suppose its still like it was half a year ago, a tremendous pain in the ass. The Old WA Editor >>>>>>>>>>> new Editor. (not enough bigger as signs)
Btw I logged into WA about 100 Players online 10 games constantly open, WR one single game on World Wide Option
@Durayne 9/10 of the games hosted are freaking shoppa/rope races. That's mainly what drives me away from Armageddon. I never really liked Armageddon much anyway. The editors lack so many options the Worms 2 editors offered, and World Party was much better, actually. I find it pretty silly Armageddon got updated instead of World Party, but what are all these updates REALLY used for? For playing shoppa and rope races. That's not even Worms. Armageddon sucks a d*ck imo.
@scjuttoh I dont want to deny that the Worms 2 Editor was Awesome and much more powerful than the WA editor (never posessed W2 but a friend had it and i saw what you could do).
As far as I remember in W2 you could even set the number of clusters and the explosionstrengt of the main object and its clusters seperate (e.g. banana bomb ), but okay in contrast the WA Editor was much easier to handle and it was much faster to create a scheme.
WR editor in Contrast has nothing neither comfort nor customization, u need to scroll through every single weapon in order to adjust ist, you sometimes need to click 30 times till you even reach the weapon you want to change, and then as far as I remember the only thing you can change is the round it is available and the count.
So Compared to the WR editor the WA Editor is quite powerful
Editors Power: W2 >>>>>WA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>WR
Comfort: WA >> W2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>WR
@Durayne Why would you need to adjust schemes in WR? They're perfectly balanced. So what about WA? They are ridiculous. Let's take "pro" for example, which offers you unlimited firearms, close combat weapons and also a banana bomb?!?
I've been perfectly pleased with all of the schemes in Reloaded. But for WA I spent days, if not weeks to puzzle out a pleasing scheme. I don't need tons of options, just give me a working and well balanced game!
(To get it across to you why some people enjoy WR)
I loved Worms 2 on the PC, I made my own levels and weapon sets, my friends recorded their own voice and we could just put it in the folder to use em... It rocked.
Roping in W:A was a god tool, you could cross entire maps and reach secret corners in seconds, It NEEDED a nerf, Worms is not a ninja rope simulator, but due to the OP rope in WA thats what it has become. 40% of games in WA in 2010 are rope based. Thats not what the game is about. Plus, barely touching a wall not above you to go flying across the map was the most ridiculous thing ever.
The rope in W:R is STILL AMAZING FOR WHAT IT WAS MEANT TO DO!
You can still get to any corner you need to, drop and retreat, or make tactical moves, all while being realistic. The rope is very balanced now.
Hovever, everything else you said is 100% true. The menus are pieces of crap, very bad placement and grouping, and not meant for a mouse. Worst menu job ever.
2 things more tho
A: HUGE LAG BETWEEN TURNS. Half the game is lag... nuff said
B: RANDOM WORM PLACEMENT! makes the game too much luck, especially when 3 worms start on a cliff
@hyperqhopper No your wrong. The rope isnt a "god" tool. The rope is only overpwered in ROPING SCHEMES. In non roping schemes played online THE ROPE IS LIMITED IN BOTH AMMO AND POWER. You cannot traverse acros the landscape as you say you can... In a game of elite for example, you only have 2 ropes and 2 shots per rope. ROPING IS A SMALL FACTOR IN THE EQUATION WHEN IT COMES TO DEFAULT SCHEMES.
good game
worms882 1 month ago
You are playing very bad with rope in WR... U have no train, that's all
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MrGmodlol61 1 month ago
worms armageddon baby!! (L)
yuurepoer 1 month ago
Worms Reloaded sucks. I have it on Steam and never play it. To be honest, I wish that I had never paid for it. I play W:A regularly (I'm skunk3) and the only "advantages" that WR has is better graphics and the ability to wear hats. Anyone that thinks Reloaded is a better game has obviously not played Armageddon online with the newest updates. Reloaded is a fun game in its own right, but compared to W:A it just sucks.
VincentsVideoVisions 2 months ago
Both have good sides and bad sides.
TheMarja1967 3 months ago
amazing video man. this should have way more views.
costybarbu 3 months ago
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apple32ization 4 months ago
WA > WR
NotRummy44 4 months ago
@clankbot222 I know which ones better
WR
hello111222100 4 months ago
Also WA has no bunkerbusters or any cool new weapons or utilities like steal and wisdom
hello111222100 4 months ago
Worms reloaded has much leess crappy graphics than worms armageddon
hello111222100 4 months ago
armagedon wins
FunnyGamePlay2 4 months ago
yes armageedon is better than WR [SUX]
GrenadeX8800 5 months ago
Worms Armageddon wins!
ArielCostaGoulart 5 months ago
Worms Reloaded SUX.... Worms Armageddon is much better
CaSs093 6 months ago
worms armageddon wins 999999999-0
theprojecthp 6 months ago
u forgot the graphics
clankbolt222 6 months ago
@clankbolt222 i think WR worms look ugly, other gfx are nice.
imtryingtowatchvids 4 months ago
@clankbolt222 Good Graphics can never make a game Better than another. Yes things look cooler but i'd rather be able to do cooler things than do things which are lamer than what they actually are.
DyaSlayer 4 months ago
Stop fighting, they are both decent games, yeah they each have cons, but they have pros too. (If you ask me I do prefer Armageddon, but just because I like the graphics. I think it looks better.) I prefer W4M over these both though.
NinjaChicken911 6 months ago
Worms Reloaded is an upgrade of the first one for the PSP, that's the reason of many of the things you mention (specially the UI)... But what about the new physics engine?? It's so fucking amazing I don't wanna play WA anymore. And there is f-key grouping btw
Croketas 7 months ago
worms reloaded looks like a downgrade of worms armageddon :P and the multiplayer suck so bad, cause it takes almost 2 minutes to switch turns, in wa it is almost instant... oh, yeah, the rope, jumps and schemmes sux
LoucoDoTarot 7 months ago
So on the one hand you say "The editors lack so many options the Worms 2 editors offered" concerning the WA editor, but defend the WR Editor, which doesnt even deserve to be called and the controls are too consolish because its a complete consoleport. Menues can be definitly done better for a PC because u have a mouse and a keyboard and not a controller.
And I almost find no online games even on worldwide seeking range!!
"To get it across to you" why some people prefer WA
Durayne 9 months ago
I bought it the day it was released and was disappointed cause i was awaiting something amazing like WA.
What is keeping WA alive even after 12 years!!!!
Its the Customization, the Variety of Possibilities to play it!
The Roper Scene is keeping it alive, (though some normal games are still played as well)
Durayne 10 months ago
Worms armageddon rules!
MultiKibol 11 months ago
Rope in W:R is epic fail.
But this game is cool. i like hats. :)
kacperNFS 1 year ago
es cierto lo de las pantallas grandes. Pero en el worms armageddon hay objetos que facilitan demasiado la partida y eso no creo que sea una ventaja del juego. WA es mas facil, y eso hace que el jugador que empiece primero tenga una ventaja casi definitiva. Worms Reloaded es mas dificil y no por ello es una desventaja, creo que se hace mas uso de la estrategia y la habilidad, y que el primer turno no da tanta ventaja. Worms 4ever!
Cantautor 1 year ago
they shud have just put the ps1 version of worms armageddon on psn, wud have been better, still have armageddon for pc it's awesome!!
DaRkLoRd1061 1 year ago
They should have sticked to the original schema......They changed way to much around...when on the rope it feels like you weigh one hundred pounds......and why the hell would they get rid of 3 of the 5 jumps. And the weapon selection menu.....do i even need to elaborate?.............
WR=======EPIC FAIL...........
Ionewolf48 1 year ago
The Rope its the only bad point on WR... for me
Both games still awesome... and WR its a bit more harder, but thats cool :D
DiegoFox4 1 year ago
Please perform all of the tricks at RRKit (Google: RRkit Worms2D) in WR and post a video reply to prove me wrong.
PsyUK1991 1 year ago
@PsyUK1991 what platform is relaoded on
EPICcodTIMES 3 months ago
Lol what a fool you are. Everything, EVERY SINGLE THING that can be done in WA with the rope can also be done in WR. You cannot just try to "import" your WA rope skills to a whole different game and expect it to work, you IDIOT.
scjuttoh 1 year ago
@scjuttoh Show me a shadow, dragon, warlock or pump with the WR rope please.
cueshark 1 year ago
@cueshark First, stop jargonizing, please, that's just annoying. And second that wasn't my point. The rope works different and thus you OF COURSE have to think of different tricks. Also "Worms Reloaded vs Worms Armageddon" is a retarded title considering the vid mainly compares the respective ropes to each other.
"Worms" isn't a slowed down, turn based racing game, folks. Well, Worms Armageddon may is, but not Worms Reloaded.
scjuttoh 11 months ago
@scjuttoh Ok. Well show me any trick with the WR rope then? Worms is kinda what you want it to be. I play all sorts of schemes. I wouldn't care to engage in an argument about wa vs wr generally. My response is purely to do with the ninja rope in WR. I think it's a tragedy. My opinion that's all. You can't really pull of tricks with it because it totally lacks useability beyond basic functions.
cueshark 11 months ago
@cueshark Guess you are right. However, as for deathmatches the rope's on the perfect. Not too difficult but also not too overpowered. I mean, if I remember Worms United... the rope is meant to be a moving tool that lets you pass far distances and shoot in the same turn, but therefore requires skill, unlike the teleporter.
scjuttoh 11 months ago
@cueshark Also sorry for raging. But see, this clip is called "W:A vs W:R", and half of the issues shown relate to the rope, proving again how many people play W:A almost just for it, which is just said. It's simply not Worms.
The gameplay related issues are rather insignificant, too, and the author lies about it. For example, roping vertically is not difficult, he just didn't put any effort on it. As well as you can enhance speed by wall bouncing, use the chute and f-keys, chat between turns..
scjuttoh 11 months ago
@scjuttoh the whole weapon system is a pain in the ass not just the roping, not to mention the lobby that after half a year still looks consolish because Reloaded is a pure Consoleport.
Creating Shemes didnt try that one now but i suppose its still like it was half a year ago, a tremendous pain in the ass. The Old WA Editor >>>>>>>>>>> new Editor. (not enough bigger as signs)
Btw I logged into WA about 100 Players online 10 games constantly open, WR one single game on World Wide Option
Durayne 10 months ago
@Durayne 9/10 of the games hosted are freaking shoppa/rope races. That's mainly what drives me away from Armageddon. I never really liked Armageddon much anyway. The editors lack so many options the Worms 2 editors offered, and World Party was much better, actually. I find it pretty silly Armageddon got updated instead of World Party, but what are all these updates REALLY used for? For playing shoppa and rope races. That's not even Worms. Armageddon sucks a d*ck imo.
scjuttoh 10 months ago
@scjuttoh I dont want to deny that the Worms 2 Editor was Awesome and much more powerful than the WA editor (never posessed W2 but a friend had it and i saw what you could do).
As far as I remember in W2 you could even set the number of clusters and the explosionstrengt of the main object and its clusters seperate (e.g. banana bomb ), but okay in contrast the WA Editor was much easier to handle and it was much faster to create a scheme.
So WA editor sacrifized customization to comfort.
Durayne 10 months ago
@scjuttoh
WR editor in Contrast has nothing neither comfort nor customization, u need to scroll through every single weapon in order to adjust ist, you sometimes need to click 30 times till you even reach the weapon you want to change, and then as far as I remember the only thing you can change is the round it is available and the count.
So Compared to the WR editor the WA Editor is quite powerful
Editors Power: W2 >>>>>WA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>WR
Comfort: WA >> W2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>WR
Durayne 10 months ago
@Durayne Why would you need to adjust schemes in WR? They're perfectly balanced. So what about WA? They are ridiculous. Let's take "pro" for example, which offers you unlimited firearms, close combat weapons and also a banana bomb?!?
I've been perfectly pleased with all of the schemes in Reloaded. But for WA I spent days, if not weeks to puzzle out a pleasing scheme. I don't need tons of options, just give me a working and well balanced game!
(To get it across to you why some people enjoy WR)
scjuttoh 9 months ago
great videom good points
FRIENDLYMEXICANBOY 1 year ago
I loved Worms 2 on the PC, I made my own levels and weapon sets, my friends recorded their own voice and we could just put it in the folder to use em... It rocked.
Snegenad1 1 year ago
Great video. aside from roping.
Roping in W:A was a god tool, you could cross entire maps and reach secret corners in seconds, It NEEDED a nerf, Worms is not a ninja rope simulator, but due to the OP rope in WA thats what it has become. 40% of games in WA in 2010 are rope based. Thats not what the game is about. Plus, barely touching a wall not above you to go flying across the map was the most ridiculous thing ever.
The rope in W:R is STILL AMAZING FOR WHAT IT WAS MEANT TO DO!
hyperqhopper 1 year ago
You can still get to any corner you need to, drop and retreat, or make tactical moves, all while being realistic. The rope is very balanced now.
Hovever, everything else you said is 100% true. The menus are pieces of crap, very bad placement and grouping, and not meant for a mouse. Worst menu job ever.
2 things more tho
A: HUGE LAG BETWEEN TURNS. Half the game is lag... nuff said
B: RANDOM WORM PLACEMENT! makes the game too much luck, especially when 3 worms start on a cliff
hyperqhopper 1 year ago
@hyperqhopper No your wrong. The rope isnt a "god" tool. The rope is only overpwered in ROPING SCHEMES. In non roping schemes played online THE ROPE IS LIMITED IN BOTH AMMO AND POWER. You cannot traverse acros the landscape as you say you can... In a game of elite for example, you only have 2 ropes and 2 shots per rope. ROPING IS A SMALL FACTOR IN THE EQUATION WHEN IT COMES TO DEFAULT SCHEMES.
FRIENDLYMEXICANBOY 1 year ago
@FRIENDLYMEXICANBOY No. ONE WALL BOUNCE CAN SEND YOU AS FAR AS A JET PACK, BUT IN MUCH MORE VERSITAL WAYS!
hyperqhopper 1 year ago
good conclusion
mat5b 1 year ago