No personal offense meant, but the more I read about the hidden audio and symbolism in Kubrick's films, particularly this one, the more I'm convinced that both Kubrick and many of his fans were obsessed nutters.
This just doesn't work. The frame timings depend on which cut of the film you are viewing (144mins or 113mins). Furthermore, claiming several different meanings for their placement (looks to camera, frame timing, thematic subtext, etc) makes it implausible. You claim shone 3 has a temporal placement, but also matches Jack Nicholson's look into camera. If both are significant Kubrick would've had to edit the entire movie to match these audio cues rather than for dramatic pacing. Unlikely.
@RENCHER It may seem unlikely to you, but that is exactly what he did.
Kubrick edited his 144 minute cut to be the MASTER cut incorporating all of the deeply embedded subtext. The 113 minute cut is just a movie. The 144 minute version is cut to present the movie AND the coded labyrinthine subtext in numerically precise.patterns. There are places in the film where DOZENS of subtextual layers come together. These overlaps that you say are "implausible" are par for the course.
@RENCHER Furthermore, I didn't, as you say, "...claim several meanings for their placement."
I merely mapped the Shone Report occurrences and measured their temporal positions.
And then I made some observations as to what is occurring in the proximity of each Shone Report.
The only "claims" I made in this are of the accuracy of my measurements and the overall significance of the Shone Report as a doorway into Kubrick's labyrinth.
@shawnfella Fair enough. I do find it interesting; interesting enough that I checked the DVD to listen to the "shone" sounds in detail. I'm not yet convinced that there's some intricate structure underlying the entire film, but if there is and you've found more of it then I'll gladly watch your follow up vids.
@HayduMan1 ALL of the discontinuity, "mistakes" and apparent holes in Kubrick's films, particularly THE Shining, are deliberate. They are connected numerically and placed strategically. The purpose is to spell out a subtext that will only be comprehensible when you have figured out the number code that connects it all together.
Obce you do, the entire system is completely self referential, verifiable and undeniable.
4:58 I agree that Kubrick may have intended some symbolism through these audio markers; but the 2,3.5 aspect is a little skewed because, at 7:34 in the movie, he looks directly into the camera as he's pronouncing "ject" as in "I'm outlining a new writing project." Now, the word "project" can be interpreted as a mental operation, As in a "mental projection." However, the Shone marker is not heard at that time. It seems that he had to limit the # of Shone markers to get the math to work out.
@HayduMan1 Some istinctions that need to be made regarding the "glance" you speak of at 7;34 in the movie. 1) It is not 7;34 but 7:34:18 that the glance is initiated.2) He is NOT looking into the camera on that glance but about 3 inches to the left. It is not a direct stare. 3) Jack looks into the camera 11 times during the interview sequence. Each glance is part of a numerically connected code snippet that is running elsewhere in the movie. Only 3 of them pertain to The Shone Report.
@ shawnfella I posted on a Rob Ager video that he should comment on his opinions of the Shone Report. I don't believe he ever responded to that request though, unfortunately.
@HayduMan1 Funny thing... Mr. Agar hates me, partially because I call him Mr. Agar (possibly) but mostly because of Subliminal Bears (definitely). He's not really into things-Kubrick that defy or contradict his published theories on the same topic.
He's going to have fun ignoring what I am about to release. :)
@shawnfella Glad to hear it. I'm trying to post an observation about the film too. I don't think anybody's ever noticed it before. It's a seven minute video. It's just not uploading though. It's really annoying. I look forward to yours.
@shawnfella Im not sure. I would assume he would have been sitting up in achair at the time, more likely so if it was a formal interview. But who knows.
@jkb81 One really has nothing to do with the other. And its not just reused ambient room tone audio because of its precise and calculated placement. Now if you want to say all of that is just coincidence, well, I just don't think that's a very reasonable assessment, to put it mildly.
Kubrick is my favorite film maker, i can confirm that the audio is authentic, i've checked on the dvd. man this is a great discovery, my compliments!!
@TheKillerklown3331 Thanks for the independent verification. I was hoping someone would do that.
Once you realize, fully grok, understand and believe that it is there.... and once you get the idea that it is strategically placed to underwrite several different layers of subtext simultaneously... THEN you begin to get an idea of the implications.
Kubrick didn't make films in the normal sense of the word. He made ENCODED DOCUMENTS.
Soon we will learn that all of his films share the same code.
@shawnfella yes, there's sure something behind, and you know what, i don't know if that was just a feeling i had, but when i listened to those SHONE in my mind i felt a sensation as i've always heard that words in the movie , as a flash back, so Kubrick put them to be listened by the audience, and no one ever notice that before, is a weird sensation. look i don't really know the message behind this "code" but i love Kubrick and always will, is the most great contemporary genious.
Assuming that the audio is authentic (I don't have the DVD to compare), this is an interesting find. Could it have been some kind of cue that was either intentionally left in the audio track or left alone because they thought no-one would pick up on it?
@DarkAmbient93 Did you even watch the video? How could something that is so precisely timed, and so intricately woven into the proceedings, be something that somebody ACCIDENTALLY left behind?
It's like you are looking at a house made of bricks, and you are wondering if somebody accidentally dropped a pile of bricks there. Can't you see the fucking house, dude?
You are the guy that just posted on the Subliminal Bears video saying you can't see them. Are you deaf as well as blind?
@shawnfella Yes, I watched the entire video. If you stopped being a jerk long enough, you'd see that I did not state "accidental" in my post. I said:
"Could it have been some kind of cue that was either intentionally left in the audio track or left alone because they thought no-one would pick up on it?"
Either way it was intentional. I think it was merely a cue for either the actors, the audience or both. Moments where either Danny or Dick were "shining" if meant for the audience.
@DarkAmbient93 It IS meant for the audience an it IS a cue. It's "a breadcrumb" and its purpose is to mark out a trail. The trail that it marks out is as subliminal and subtle as the actual breadcrumb... but also just as undeniable.
It's not meant for the actors because it seems that it was added in POST. The actors never heard it.
@DarkAmbient93 its definitely in the film ... very faint but totally audible and noticeable .. but it could just be audible sounds being made in the hotel by someone moving something
is there validation that is actually kubricks voice? not sure ... waiting for the other shoe to drop and see more
Interesting,but I'm not sure if this was all done on purpose. This really looks like forced symbolism too me. No offense. I'm still really interested in your stuff and I hope you will release more soon.
I think one thing that would make it just as convincing is if you reran all the sequences again, this time without turning the volume up -- since we would know what to listen for.
@RedVynil Yes... by watching the time clock. It is part of Kubrick's intended mise en scene. I mean the time clock you see running on your video (or dvd) player that tells where and when you are in the film. That is the most important aspect of any Kubrick film.
@shawnfella Not quite sure I understand what you mean, but I was talking about the clock on the wall in the movie. Also, what do you mean by "mise en"?
By the way, I just watched another explanation of the movie last night and it's nearly completely different from yours and, I think, more accurate as to what he was trying to say. But, both your's and the one I saw last night are VERY interesting and could possibly be mixed together in some way to make an even more compelling explanation.
@shawnfella Also, in one of clips in the other version, they showed one of the Shone report bits and I DID hear it, even though the person doing the explanation never once mentioned or even remotely pointed out any of the shones. By the way, don't you think it should be "shown" and not "shone"? Although, as it's called, "The Shining", I guess Shone (past-tense of Shine) is correct, too. Did you mention that? I don't remember.
@deppgurl150 Wait until you see what is coming up. This Shone Report business is really just a tidbit. The stuff I am about to release will blow your mind. Stanley Kubrick was up to something as a film Director and that something was not simply making movies. I've spent five years on this full time. I'm pretty sure I have cracked the Kubrick puzzle. Keep your eyes open for "Inside Out: What Everyone Missed In Stanley Kubrick's The Shining".... coming soon to an internet near you.
@matooli There a many clues throughout the film that that is the voice of Stanley Kubrick. Apart from those.... I recognize his voice. It is clearly Stanley Kubrick.
@shawnfella - don't take this the wrong way, that just sounds synchronistic to me that you wrote "i recognise his voice" cause that line in 12 Monkey's is a persistent clue to the whole thing this stuff is all about also...have you seen the Kurbick-Floyd site?, maybe you wrote some of it, if not there's a lot of thinking around the same themes - note what it says about silent movies in The Shining article (Hell's Angels probably). this timeline & missing energy from it, aethers & more besides.
it`s almost impossible to say what the word/sound is or whose voice it belongs to. nevertheless, great find...i`ve seen the film countless times and never noticed it even once.
shawn, no need to be so condescending when answering a question from rotwei, i too have no idea, what this is about,try not to be so condescending,and try writing a better intro, we arent all as clever as you(obviously)
@cheyennebritbrat What's not to get? I don't get why you don't get. Forgive the condescension (if that's what it is I am doing). Feels more like exasperation to me.
There are these 16 audio inserts in The Shining and it is obvious they are inserted because of the strange and interesting ways they interconnect. That's it. That is all the video is about. The answers to the "whys" and the "what does it all mean" are clearly meant for another video... coming sometime soon.
hey did u get my film yet? also on your 1st title 16 shones in the 1st 48 minutes thats a number pattern 48 divide by 16 is 3 wonder what the purpose of that is?? dude love your work email me
@rotwei What has happened to the young people of Sweden? Confused? Desperate? If you don't understand this video, even after reading the comments, then god help you.
@shawnfella Oh please, you cant judge me of that and especially not generalizing the whole population. I dont consider myself stupid, im just merely interested of knowing whats going on. People who brag about their intellect, looks more like the prisoner whos proud of his big cell. I say theres no shame in asking, because how else are you supposed to learn anything?. But enough of my rant, obviously you know the answer and therefore you can explain :)
@rotwei I didn't "judge" you. I didn't call you "stupid." And I didn't "brag" (or in any way qualify) my own intellect. You ask me to explain "what the video is about." Isn't it self-explanatory? Isn't "what the video is about" in the title? Isn't the video itself a labored dissertation on "what it is about?
I don't know what to tell you other than the video is about an audio insert that Kubrick put into The Shining that is numerically and subtextually referential.
This is Amazing The shining is a movie about the extermination of native Americans and Kubrick's Nasa fake moonlanding this movie is just a masterpiece of secret's
One of the more fascinating analysis of the film I have seen lately. I did hear some of the 'shone's when first watching it and thouht it was people in the background moving trolleys and furniture as they were moving out. But when aligned altogether all the shone's here sound the same! It is interesting that Kubrick breaks the 4th wall rule, by having his actors look directly into the camera, and that is purposeful as we shine. It is strange that the 'shone's stop when the last 'bye' is heard.
Is it possible that, during audio prodcution/editing, they repeatedly used a loop of 'big hall sound' audio - to give more ambience? And that this repeated loop just happened to have that background voice snippet? You know, Occam's Razor and all that : )
@psybinetic Well, that doesn't explain the timing. That doesn't explain it sounding exactly as Jack looks at the camera. That doesn't explain it sounding out over (or under) the radio transmission on the 16th Shone Report. The "ambiance" (and locations) surrounding it do not match on all reports. That doesn't explain all of the other "coincidences" that occur with it in recurring subtext. Kubrick wouldn't have "missed" it and included it "accidentally." Absolutely no way. Numbers don't lie.
@matrat57 Shot 237 comes when Danny is in the hallway confronting the "twin" girls, the blue-dressed creepy sisters. They say to him - "Come and stay with us... for ever, and ever, and ever." As they repeat the word "ever", the camera steps in to closer and closer shots of the twins alternating with reaction shots of Danny. Shot 237 occurs on the second, or middle "ever." It is a medium shot of the sisters holding hands in the hallway saying... "...and ever." They are also saying "endeavor."
@GusTTShowbiz23 I heard that sound and ruled it out as a "shone report." If you listen at 28:20 you will hear another sound that is virtually identical to the 29:13 sound. But at 28:20 you can see Jack move his foot ever so slightly, sliding his shoe sole across the floor, thus making the sound. I think the 29:13 sound is the same as that one... someone (on the crew probably) sliding their shoe across the floor. It lacks the percussive nature of the 14th "shone" heard 6 seconds later.
shone or scone? schone is how it is pronounced by a "certain" class. Stewart Ullman, the House of Stewart and Ullman signifying Teutonic heraldry . winnie or freddy, see Poohs adventures of Freddy.
@shawnfella OK, here's another stab at it to justify my "untenable assertion" assertion. Like Pink Floyd having synched their DarkSOTM album with the first 45 minutes of The Wizard of Oz, the technology & precision required did not in exist when TS was made. That Kubrick numerically linked any Single Frame in a 8 reel film print with another is hugely problematic from a technical standpoint. This feat, like a hit team on Kennedy, would minimally require an intensive, precise collaboration.
@orkneyrd Quote from a biographer... "Editing The Shining took 18 months, largely due to Kubrick's method of demarking the celluloid strips (by hand, in a system only he understood). Assistant editors were pulling their hair out."
All tolled it was 500 days to put the film "in the can." Kubrick did most of the chopping by himself. "The technology and precision required" (as you say) most certainly DID exist (at the time).
shawnfella; Reconsider defending the frame count aspects of your theory & concentrate on the strange, ineffable aspects of the sound, set dressing, camera setups & dialogue. with mysteries yet to unfold. The 24fps back-conversion from the 24fps to NTSC conversion is not a tenable assertion shawnfella, for technical reasons we can get into. Projectionists would also routinely 'cut to picture' at reel ends when making prints up, converting intended sound & picture fadeouts to jump cuts.
@orkneyrd Isn't that exactly what I am doing, as well as providing a numerical analog that guides the mise en scene. Give me a break with your "untenable assertions"... you don't know what you are talking about.
I think it's necessary to look at this from the pov of a film student or pro which is what Shawn appears to be. Now that I've shifted to my right brain and stopped looking for logic I see a mysterious symmetry from a master mind. Why he did this is one of the many questions that will crop up. He has left that for us to figure out I suppose and is for those that love a mystery and who doesn't. Quite a remarkable discovery now that I've reviewed it. Yes, there was a maze in the final scene...
Film exhibition of "The Shining", Pt. 3 Although the frame count issues undermine a good deal of this Shown analysis, i want to commend the fanatical approach to decoding this chilling, Kubrick masterpiece, I agree with some earlier posts that this film in particular is densely encoded in an extraordinary manner with planned, interrelated links and patterns throughout. I can't fully get into "The Shining", however, until I grok what's up with Jupiter's moons, & that French furniture.
@orkneyrd The Shining and 2001 are fully cross-pollinated. The "frame count issues" are accounted for and incorporated. It's the first thing you've got to do... with all of the films. Kubrick is drawing numeric maps. Precision is key.
@THAWK3 It rolls over every four hours. If you are seeing a number, it's not you. It's someone a few hours before. Still, though, of all the numbers it could have been, that is definitely a "coincidental" roll over digit.
Film exhibition of "The Shining" Pt. 2. I must be the reluctant debunker of the numerical / math / arithmetic exercise of this otherwise intriguing examination of "The Shining". A primary flaw in the numbered-frame analysis sections, apart from the basic timing & arrangements of scenes, is that Kubrick's complex edits had no modern equivalent of specifically frame-numbered work print to encode intensional numerical relationships between the modern digital frames, numbered
@orkneyrd That's why, to micro-analyze the time code in this film, you have to convert your digital copy back to 24 frames a second from its DVD frame rate. And you have to do it in such a way as to minimize frame blending artifacts. Elements of Kubrick's Code revolve around the 24 frame rate and its reverse the number 42. Many of Kubrick's metaphor layers are wrapped in the dynamics of a film projector.
This spooky take & analysis is new to me, although I presented the majority of Kubrick's brilliant films in the 35mm and 70mm format- over a 35-year period, on a large, curved screen of a 900-seat historic theatre, with state-of-the-art optics & sound. "The Shining" was initially presented in 35mm, & (I believe) Dolby [SR?] Stereo 4-track optical sound with subwoofers cranked up. Lot's of 'sub'-liminal stuff packed in there alright, and weird sound transients on scene changes etc.
@orkneyrd A film print of any one of his films is the way to go. I presently saw the Shining in a big theater but it was digital, they were projecting Blue Ray. It completely sucked.
So what is the point of all this? So Kubric was a post production nerd arranging all this in mathematical symmetry... how does that add to the theme and flavor of the film? This is all grist for the sub conscious... Why did Kubrick do this? No answer yet to that from this treatment... but who cares? Aren't there more important things to do?
@shawnfella Honey bees don't talk or write but you do. Just tell me why you think it's important. That's all. I'd appreciate anything you have to share. I really love this film too.
@Misstorys No. He seeded the answer to "what it all means" throughout 12 movies. The answer is clear enough once you grok the language. Kubrick is the actor wielding the language. We must understand what "part" he is playing. Kubrick inserted HIM SELF into his movies in ways that Hitchcock couldn't imagine. For example, go to 35:53 in the long cut. There's Kubrick, plain as day, reflected in the Shining of the chrome-top dish cover, center screen, first third up from the bottom. He reflects.
Arithmetic is adding, subtraction, multiplication and division. Numerology is using all the preceding to arrive at some hidden message or meaning. Numerology is EXACTLY what you are doing, and it is a fool's errand. But I know Kubrick was up to something! It's just not what is explained in this vid.
I don't even hear the word 'shone' spoken. I've viewed this twice now and I still can't make out any word at all. If there is anything there at all is was a waste of Kubrick's time; unless his point was to make a movie that subliminally made viewers tell their friends not to go see it.
I can't hear anything that sounds remotely like a word either. It sounds like a dresser being dragged over a rough floor to me, or a piece of metal being struck with a blunt instrument, etc. etc. If you played it and asked people to submit words or sounds they thought it might be you'd get all sorts of entries. Too bad you front loaded it with your desired result. You get low marks for your research technique.
@mscir The extremity of your negation gives you away. Remotely, you say? A sharp SSHH sound followed by a vowelization that is AHHH followed by a descending consonant pinch that concludes as NNNN. I'm familiar enough with the sound. It's my name. Shawn. Only it's not my name. It's that other word that sounds like my name Shone.
If you go to the film, and listen there, you can even here it is intoned with Kubrick's Bronx accent and its tonality matches the ambiance and reverb of the set.
Haha, apparently you hear what you want to hear. The 'extremity of your negation'?! If anyone is being extreme here... oh well, I'll stop trying to reason with you, my first post was clear enough. I guess I'll agree to disagree and say we all hear what we want to hear hey!
Any boob can find any message anywhere using numerology. There is NO POINT to the numbers "decoded" by the creator of this vid. It's all hullabaloo. Just like the bible code weirdos and Jim Garrison the DA that thought he decoded the Kennedy assassination. I find the idea that Kubrick encoded something about the Apollo moon landings in the film much more credible. I think the "shone" tracks could be about something entirely different.
I watched this movie once when it first came out on pay TV and it creeped me out. Really disturbing and never could watch it again nor would I as it is too disturbing. I don't care what message trip this guy was into, the less exposure to it the better.
Who is Mr. Kubrick speaking to when he says "shone"? I am wondering if he is speaking to the machine, following its directions. Evil must have a free will and by saying shone, he is making the watcher aware. The machine speaks numerologically as it is a computer, correct? I find it difficult to believe Kubrick is showing us anything as he is working for the machine/computer, not us.
@regardingme1 He is speaking to you, the film analyst. The Shone Report is the sound of Kubrick taunting you to engage his method. It's a big footprint on a long trail in a holographic maze language of uncanny coincidence. Once you hear it, you can't NOT hear it. Once you measure it, you can't ignore it. Numbers don't lie. The Shone Report is more than a footprint - it's one of many doorways into the maze. The point is not the maze, but what you see while trying to get out.
The Duality of Man. Conscious and Sub-Conscious. Left and Right. Ying and Yang. Light and Darkness. Good and Bad. Positive and Negative. Up and Down. And, everyone's favorite....in and out!
"The single most insulting thing you can tell a creative person is, upon viewing their creation, "you have too much free time". Every time you say somebody has "too much free time," the part of you that used to love making things for pure joy dies a little"
@dgl1962 I disagree with your assessment of my work, and of Kubrick's subliminal maze, the likes of which you will probably never see. What are "the first Shining coincidences?
@shawnfella I may have been too coarse in criticizing your work, youtube anonymity can do that, sorry...
I'm not certain where I saw the other analysis of the Shining, but it went over the extensive use of the Apollo moon program using many different symbols to hint about it, such as; the flag on the man's desk, the way that the kid stood up wearing some special shirt which depicted the launch, etc.
It's been a few months since I saw it so it's fading from my mind.
@dgl1962 My point is that I have something quit amazing to show you but it is so completely unorthodox and labyrinthine that it will take you a good while to absorb it. I know this for a certainty because I know what's next, and what's after that, and so on. I'm showing you what I think are good gates into Kubrick's Maze: Sub Bears and this Shone Report. I've been in the maze, and I'm just trying to show you a good way through to the center where you are will understand what I'm on about.
@imasexiemonster The point is, Kubrick created a movie out of a subliminal image maze in alignment with a subliminal number maze. It is a film language that has never been observed, let alone analyzed. It is a coded rendition of the untellable tale that Kubrick has extended throughout his career. The "point" is, finding out WHY he did this. Before you do that you have to know WHAT he did. What's the point of the Shone Report? It's one word in a language Kubrick is speaking. There's much more.
i'm slow. is kubrick trying to tell us something about what the plan is to enslave the population with his movies? i know he's trying to say something with eyes wide shut.
@watchman001 Your conclusion (about enslavement) does not sound at all "slow" to me, watchman.
Everybody "Shines" to one degree or another. As Dick Hallorann says at exactly 30 minutes into the film: '...but there ARE other folks (who can Shine) though mostly they don't know it, or don't believe it."
@watchman001 I don't think it is why he isn't here anymore. I think it is ABOUT why he isn't here anymore.
There's an excised scene at the end of The Shining that maybe a few thousand people saw before it was excised (post release). Reportedly, Ullman tells of the police looking everywhere at the Overlook for Jack's body and finding it missing. Why was it cut in a panic? Second Thoughts, or, Kubrick Theater? Most likely both. Kubrick Second Thoughts Theater. Isn't that The Shining?
Wouldn't it make more sense if the word Shone being muttered means that its showing you the sequences of how things will move along? Sorta like events to look for ... ie the phones all being down for the winter and not being turned back on till spring/summer... maybe means all comms will stop during the engineered winter till we are dealt with and then comms will resume from those that are left. The idea that shone means mind reading doesn't fit to me. u must have alot of free time... :)
@bellerian1 If Shone is the past tense of Shine, and if the film is called The Shining, and if Shining means a form of psi (as explained in the film)... then how doesn't it "fit" (to you)?
Sounds to me like you are simply engaging in contrariety.
@shawnfella It seems you want to take the words literally. What if Shone is meant to be Shown? and the Shining means "I am shining the light on whats coming" and thus the parts where he utters Shone in the film perhaps link up to Events that must occur in the process of the world change that is planned to occur over a period of time.
I don't care one way or the other if you are right or wrong. I was just trying to add another potential idea around what is attempted to be "shown".
@bellerian1 If you decide it says Shown instead of Shone, your subsequent "read" on it still takes the word literally. This is a maze. There are many turns, many linking passages, many forks. It could be both.
@shawnfella It very well could be both. Let me ask you this. What insight do you think Kubrick had into the Elite plans for the world? What circles was he in that makes you think he would have access to information to be able to embed it into this movie? I don't know the guy very well but depending on his circle of influence it might help draw some conclusions or put new ideas in play. Take care!
@bellerian1 Good question. And I think, key. Kirk Douglas did a movie, The Final Countdown, that was released in France 39 days after the Shining in America, He did another called Saturn 3, released in France on the same day as The Shining in America. And Douglas did another one, DePalma's, "Home Movies" a couple of weeks before The Shining. Final Countdown is about Time Travel. I think definitely Kirk Douglas, of Spartacus and Paths of Glory, was an early Kubrick source. Him and Life Magazine.
@shawnfella Can you point me to the "DePalma" home movies? Is that in reference to Bruce DePalma? The same guy that did the N machine version of a homopolar generator and who worked with Tewari in india to advance the same into a large scale device? That might be an interesting link. That guy, Bruce, died at 53 from cancer. He was an MIT graduate that ran this site thats still up in memory of him:
@shawnfella Home Movies was about a guy named "The Maestro" (Douglas) who was mentoring another on how to make a movie. Saturn 3 is about a rampaging horny Robot that is of "two minds" at an isolated "food" plantation near Saturn. The thematic mirroring of Kubrick's etymology is precise.
Not going to support or discredit this so... Hurry up with the conclusions in part 2, 15 minutes of theory applications and no ending... Thx for nothing.
So what is it you're actually showing? That you can make up a bunch of numerical jargon to support your ideas of Kubrick trying to tell his audience that there are mysterious powers that subvert the pineal gland and hinder human telekinetic evolution?
@writtenwrath I didn't make the "numerical jargon" as you call it. Kubrick did. I am merely trying to illuminate it. The Shining is a virtual encyclopedia of "numerical jargon"... and this video is just the tip of a very large and very dense numerical iceberg.
No personal offense meant, but the more I read about the hidden audio and symbolism in Kubrick's films, particularly this one, the more I'm convinced that both Kubrick and many of his fans were obsessed nutters.
acidjack73 4 days ago
Will you be posting a follow up video to this soon?....Please do!
jmurff 6 days ago
Fascinating, thank you. Checked the Dvd's it's there perfectly audible. And i have to admit, a bit frightening in its implications..
Birdland11 1 week ago
hopefully those flashes arent in the real film
zambot3 3 weeks ago
part of the music
zambot3 3 weeks ago
I bet Stephen King didn't intend this when he wrote "The Shining."
JudioRusoII 3 weeks ago
Shone , this is quite a story
mariovicencio1965 3 weeks ago
It shines.
It Shone.
Its' Cresent.
BrodyLuv2 4 weeks ago
This just doesn't work. The frame timings depend on which cut of the film you are viewing (144mins or 113mins). Furthermore, claiming several different meanings for their placement (looks to camera, frame timing, thematic subtext, etc) makes it implausible. You claim shone 3 has a temporal placement, but also matches Jack Nicholson's look into camera. If both are significant Kubrick would've had to edit the entire movie to match these audio cues rather than for dramatic pacing. Unlikely.
RENCHER 4 weeks ago
@RENCHER It may seem unlikely to you, but that is exactly what he did.
Kubrick edited his 144 minute cut to be the MASTER cut incorporating all of the deeply embedded subtext. The 113 minute cut is just a movie. The 144 minute version is cut to present the movie AND the coded labyrinthine subtext in numerically precise.patterns. There are places in the film where DOZENS of subtextual layers come together. These overlaps that you say are "implausible" are par for the course.
shawnfella 4 weeks ago
@RENCHER Furthermore, I didn't, as you say, "...claim several meanings for their placement."
I merely mapped the Shone Report occurrences and measured their temporal positions.
And then I made some observations as to what is occurring in the proximity of each Shone Report.
The only "claims" I made in this are of the accuracy of my measurements and the overall significance of the Shone Report as a doorway into Kubrick's labyrinth.
I 'm claiming there is much more to come.
So hang on.
shawnfella 4 weeks ago
@shawnfella Fair enough. I do find it interesting; interesting enough that I checked the DVD to listen to the "shone" sounds in detail. I'm not yet convinced that there's some intricate structure underlying the entire film, but if there is and you've found more of it then I'll gladly watch your follow up vids.
RENCHER 4 weeks ago
@HayduMan1 ALL of the discontinuity, "mistakes" and apparent holes in Kubrick's films, particularly THE Shining, are deliberate. They are connected numerically and placed strategically. The purpose is to spell out a subtext that will only be comprehensible when you have figured out the number code that connects it all together.
Obce you do, the entire system is completely self referential, verifiable and undeniable.
You'll see.
shawnfella 1 month ago
4:58 I agree that Kubrick may have intended some symbolism through these audio markers; but the 2,3.5 aspect is a little skewed because, at 7:34 in the movie, he looks directly into the camera as he's pronouncing "ject" as in "I'm outlining a new writing project." Now, the word "project" can be interpreted as a mental operation, As in a "mental projection." However, the Shone marker is not heard at that time. It seems that he had to limit the # of Shone markers to get the math to work out.
HayduMan1 1 month ago
@HayduMan1 Some istinctions that need to be made regarding the "glance" you speak of at 7;34 in the movie. 1) It is not 7;34 but 7:34:18 that the glance is initiated.2) He is NOT looking into the camera on that glance but about 3 inches to the left. It is not a direct stare. 3) Jack looks into the camera 11 times during the interview sequence. Each glance is part of a numerically connected code snippet that is running elsewhere in the movie. Only 3 of them pertain to The Shone Report.
shawnfella 1 month ago
@ shawnfella I posted on a Rob Ager video that he should comment on his opinions of the Shone Report. I don't believe he ever responded to that request though, unfortunately.
HayduMan1 2 months ago
@HayduMan1 Funny thing... Mr. Agar hates me, partially because I call him Mr. Agar (possibly) but mostly because of Subliminal Bears (definitely). He's not really into things-Kubrick that defy or contradict his published theories on the same topic.
He's going to have fun ignoring what I am about to release. :)
shawnfella 2 months ago
@shawnfella Glad to hear it. I'm trying to post an observation about the film too. I don't think anybody's ever noticed it before. It's a seven minute video. It's just not uploading though. It's really annoying. I look forward to yours.
HayduMan1 2 months ago
I read in an interview with Kubrick that he was interested in number patterns and symmetry.
infinitesimotel 2 months ago
@infinitesimotel Yes, I saw that. Clearly he wasn't lying.
shawnfella 2 months ago
@shawnfella Im not sure. I would assume he would have been sitting up in achair at the time, more likely so if it was a formal interview. But who knows.
infinitesimotel 2 months ago
It is never heard in scenes where they are alone, it's likely just reused ambient/room tone audio.
jkb81 2 months ago
@jkb81 One really has nothing to do with the other. And its not just reused ambient room tone audio because of its precise and calculated placement. Now if you want to say all of that is just coincidence, well, I just don't think that's a very reasonable assessment, to put it mildly.
shawnfella 2 months ago
Very well done. Looking forward to seeing more from you.
gateshoup 2 months ago
Kubrick is my favorite film maker, i can confirm that the audio is authentic, i've checked on the dvd. man this is a great discovery, my compliments!!
TheKillerklown3331 3 months ago
@TheKillerklown3331 Thanks for the independent verification. I was hoping someone would do that.
Once you realize, fully grok, understand and believe that it is there.... and once you get the idea that it is strategically placed to underwrite several different layers of subtext simultaneously... THEN you begin to get an idea of the implications.
Kubrick didn't make films in the normal sense of the word. He made ENCODED DOCUMENTS.
Soon we will learn that all of his films share the same code.
shawnfella 3 months ago 3
@shawnfella yes, there's sure something behind, and you know what, i don't know if that was just a feeling i had, but when i listened to those SHONE in my mind i felt a sensation as i've always heard that words in the movie , as a flash back, so Kubrick put them to be listened by the audience, and no one ever notice that before, is a weird sensation. look i don't really know the message behind this "code" but i love Kubrick and always will, is the most great contemporary genious.
TheKillerklown3331 3 months ago
@shawnfella amazing research
AlanWattParrot 3 weeks ago
Assuming that the audio is authentic (I don't have the DVD to compare), this is an interesting find. Could it have been some kind of cue that was either intentionally left in the audio track or left alone because they thought no-one would pick up on it?
DarkAmbient93 3 months ago
@DarkAmbient93 Did you even watch the video? How could something that is so precisely timed, and so intricately woven into the proceedings, be something that somebody ACCIDENTALLY left behind?
It's like you are looking at a house made of bricks, and you are wondering if somebody accidentally dropped a pile of bricks there. Can't you see the fucking house, dude?
You are the guy that just posted on the Subliminal Bears video saying you can't see them. Are you deaf as well as blind?
shawnfella 3 months ago
@shawnfella Yes, I watched the entire video. If you stopped being a jerk long enough, you'd see that I did not state "accidental" in my post. I said:
"Could it have been some kind of cue that was either intentionally left in the audio track or left alone because they thought no-one would pick up on it?"
Either way it was intentional. I think it was merely a cue for either the actors, the audience or both. Moments where either Danny or Dick were "shining" if meant for the audience.
DarkAmbient93 3 months ago
@DarkAmbient93 It IS meant for the audience an it IS a cue. It's "a breadcrumb" and its purpose is to mark out a trail. The trail that it marks out is as subliminal and subtle as the actual breadcrumb... but also just as undeniable.
It's not meant for the actors because it seems that it was added in POST. The actors never heard it.
shawnfella 3 months ago
@DarkAmbient93 its definitely in the film ... very faint but totally audible and noticeable .. but it could just be audible sounds being made in the hotel by someone moving something
is there validation that is actually kubricks voice? not sure ... waiting for the other shoe to drop and see more
rdecredico 3 months ago 3
looking forward the the sounds of the next shoe dropping on this one
rdecredico 3 months ago
Did anyone else notice that he said "Story" Room instead of "Storage" Room At 6:37 or am I just hearing things? Cos' it sure sounds similar. :)
~ Nice Vid. <:)
iActivist 4 months ago 2
@iActivist He's saying, "Now this is the store room."
shawnfella 4 months ago
Interesting,but I'm not sure if this was all done on purpose. This really looks like forced symbolism too me. No offense. I'm still really interested in your stuff and I hope you will release more soon.
Shyreenify 4 months ago
@Shyreenify It sure looks like it was done on purpose to me.
shawnfella 4 months ago
I have absolutely zero understanding of what you are talking about. When there is a flash, am I supposed to hear something?
thedude72 4 months ago
@thedude72 Wow
shawnfella 4 months ago
I think one thing that would make it just as convincing is if you reran all the sequences again, this time without turning the volume up -- since we would know what to listen for.
jakesbrain 4 months ago
@jakesbrain That's probably a good idea. I'll play it out in the sequel.
shawnfella 4 months ago
The clock in the background of shots 116 & 117 (Shone Reports 11 & 12) shows 1:06. 16.
RedVynil 4 months ago
@RedVynil A double flipped 19! Watching the clock in a Kubrick film is the number one most important consideration. It is how the maze is negotiated,
shawnfella 4 months ago
@shawnfella By watching a clock?
RedVynil 4 months ago
@RedVynil Yes... by watching the time clock. It is part of Kubrick's intended mise en scene. I mean the time clock you see running on your video (or dvd) player that tells where and when you are in the film. That is the most important aspect of any Kubrick film.
shawnfella 4 months ago
@shawnfella Not quite sure I understand what you mean, but I was talking about the clock on the wall in the movie. Also, what do you mean by "mise en"?
By the way, I just watched another explanation of the movie last night and it's nearly completely different from yours and, I think, more accurate as to what he was trying to say. But, both your's and the one I saw last night are VERY interesting and could possibly be mixed together in some way to make an even more compelling explanation.
RedVynil 4 months ago
@shawnfella Also, in one of clips in the other version, they showed one of the Shone report bits and I DID hear it, even though the person doing the explanation never once mentioned or even remotely pointed out any of the shones. By the way, don't you think it should be "shown" and not "shone"? Although, as it's called, "The Shining", I guess Shone (past-tense of Shine) is correct, too. Did you mention that? I don't remember.
RedVynil 4 months ago
@shawnfella
I've got stacks of time code info etc for 2001:ASO, amonst other things....imo, you're spot on about Kubrick & timing within his body of work.
Keep going shawnfella....this is valuable work imo, sod the detractors.
roachy333 4 months ago
Fascinating! I'm not sure if all these things were on purpose, but this is very interesting. Great find, and I like how you really looked into it.
deppgurl150 4 months ago
@deppgurl150 Wait until you see what is coming up. This Shone Report business is really just a tidbit. The stuff I am about to release will blow your mind. Stanley Kubrick was up to something as a film Director and that something was not simply making movies. I've spent five years on this full time. I'm pretty sure I have cracked the Kubrick puzzle. Keep your eyes open for "Inside Out: What Everyone Missed In Stanley Kubrick's The Shining".... coming soon to an internet near you.
shawnfella 4 months ago 2
Fascinating! I'm not sure if all these things were on purpose, but this is very interesting. Great find, and I like how you really looked into it.
deppgurl150 4 months ago
It's spelled "separated", not "seperated".
pyenapple 5 months ago
It's spelled "separated", not "seperated".
pyenapple 5 months ago
Interesting, although I'm not sure why you think it's Kubrick himself calling out "shone"?
matooli 5 months ago
@matooli There a many clues throughout the film that that is the voice of Stanley Kubrick. Apart from those.... I recognize his voice. It is clearly Stanley Kubrick.
I'll ask this one question: Who else would it be?
shawnfella 5 months ago
@shawnfella - don't take this the wrong way, that just sounds synchronistic to me that you wrote "i recognise his voice" cause that line in 12 Monkey's is a persistent clue to the whole thing this stuff is all about also...have you seen the Kurbick-Floyd site?, maybe you wrote some of it, if not there's a lot of thinking around the same themes - note what it says about silent movies in The Shining article (Hell's Angels probably). this timeline & missing energy from it, aethers & more besides.
JustSomePerson888 4 months ago
"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar" - Sigmund Freud
Gravyballs2011 5 months ago
OMG, I do sound sampling, hip-hop etc... it definitely IS the same sound, woooow, the film gets creepier and creepier...
Fucking..hell!!
Btw, check out my vids. Peace.
MediaPlusCulture 5 months ago
it`s almost impossible to say what the word/sound is or whose voice it belongs to. nevertheless, great find...i`ve seen the film countless times and never noticed it even once.
toomuchpetrol 5 months ago
@shawnfella for what it's worth i didn't find you condescending at all
arlobrubaker 5 months ago
I must ask, how did you find these markers in the first place? Were they embedded in the audio track somehow?
raizumichin 6 months ago
Interesting stuff, no wonder Kubrick spent so much time on his films.
mexicanhobos 6 months ago
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heroehat 6 months ago
shawn, no need to be so condescending when answering a question from rotwei, i too have no idea, what this is about,try not to be so condescending,and try writing a better intro, we arent all as clever as you(obviously)
cheyennebritbrat 7 months ago
@cheyennebritbrat What's not to get? I don't get why you don't get. Forgive the condescension (if that's what it is I am doing). Feels more like exasperation to me.
There are these 16 audio inserts in The Shining and it is obvious they are inserted because of the strange and interesting ways they interconnect. That's it. That is all the video is about. The answers to the "whys" and the "what does it all mean" are clearly meant for another video... coming sometime soon.
shawnfella 7 months ago
@cheyennebritbrat ah, see, you answered nicely, i wait in a state anticipation for the next vid!
cheyennebritbrat 7 months ago
hey did u get my film yet? also on your 1st title 16 shones in the 1st 48 minutes thats a number pattern 48 divide by 16 is 3 wonder what the purpose of that is?? dude love your work email me
lightningscream 8 months ago
Remarkable find-Kubrick left NOTHING to chance.
liveecarbme 8 months ago
Can someone explain what the video is about because im really confused and im desperatly trying to understand it by reading the comments.
rotwei 8 months ago
@rotwei What has happened to the young people of Sweden? Confused? Desperate? If you don't understand this video, even after reading the comments, then god help you.
shawnfella 8 months ago
@shawnfella Oh please, you cant judge me of that and especially not generalizing the whole population. I dont consider myself stupid, im just merely interested of knowing whats going on. People who brag about their intellect, looks more like the prisoner whos proud of his big cell. I say theres no shame in asking, because how else are you supposed to learn anything?. But enough of my rant, obviously you know the answer and therefore you can explain :)
rotwei 8 months ago
@rotwei I didn't "judge" you. I didn't call you "stupid." And I didn't "brag" (or in any way qualify) my own intellect. You ask me to explain "what the video is about." Isn't it self-explanatory? Isn't "what the video is about" in the title? Isn't the video itself a labored dissertation on "what it is about?
I don't know what to tell you other than the video is about an audio insert that Kubrick put into The Shining that is numerically and subtextually referential.
shawnfella 8 months ago
This is Amazing The shining is a movie about the extermination of native Americans and Kubrick's Nasa fake moonlanding this movie is just a masterpiece of secret's
F1brawfa 8 months ago
One of the more fascinating analysis of the film I have seen lately. I did hear some of the 'shone's when first watching it and thouht it was people in the background moving trolleys and furniture as they were moving out. But when aligned altogether all the shone's here sound the same! It is interesting that Kubrick breaks the 4th wall rule, by having his actors look directly into the camera, and that is purposeful as we shine. It is strange that the 'shone's stop when the last 'bye' is heard.
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lightningscream 9 months ago
I don't really hear "Shone" anywhere in this, I only hear "Shawn"
narson 9 months ago
Is it possible that, during audio prodcution/editing, they repeatedly used a loop of 'big hall sound' audio - to give more ambience? And that this repeated loop just happened to have that background voice snippet? You know, Occam's Razor and all that : )
psybinetic 11 months ago
@psybinetic Well, that doesn't explain the timing. That doesn't explain it sounding exactly as Jack looks at the camera. That doesn't explain it sounding out over (or under) the radio transmission on the 16th Shone Report. The "ambiance" (and locations) surrounding it do not match on all reports. That doesn't explain all of the other "coincidences" that occur with it in recurring subtext. Kubrick wouldn't have "missed" it and included it "accidentally." Absolutely no way. Numbers don't lie.
shawnfella 11 months ago
@shawnfella I'm wondering... what is shot 237? maybe I should not go there...
matrat57 11 months ago
@matrat57 Shot 237 comes when Danny is in the hallway confronting the "twin" girls, the blue-dressed creepy sisters. They say to him - "Come and stay with us... for ever, and ever, and ever." As they repeat the word "ever", the camera steps in to closer and closer shots of the twins alternating with reaction shots of Danny. Shot 237 occurs on the second, or middle "ever." It is a medium shot of the sisters holding hands in the hallway saying... "...and ever." They are also saying "endeavor."
shawnfella 11 months ago
@shawnfella You missed a Shone at 29:13, which makes that the true 14th Shone.
Didn't mean to double post.
GusTTShowbiz23 1 year ago
@GusTTShowbiz23 I heard that sound and ruled it out as a "shone report." If you listen at 28:20 you will hear another sound that is virtually identical to the 29:13 sound. But at 28:20 you can see Jack move his foot ever so slightly, sliding his shoe sole across the floor, thus making the sound. I think the 29:13 sound is the same as that one... someone (on the crew probably) sliding their shoe across the floor. It lacks the percussive nature of the 14th "shone" heard 6 seconds later.
shawnfella 1 year ago
Did you realize your name is Shawn? You know... Shawn, shawn, shone... :)
nessuno2001italy 1 year ago
@nessuno2001italy Of course I realize it. I stated as much below in this comment section. An odd coincidence.
Kind of freaky actually.
shawnfella 1 year ago
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stripes5150 1 year ago
shone or scone? schone is how it is pronounced by a "certain" class. Stewart Ullman, the House of Stewart and Ullman signifying Teutonic heraldry . winnie or freddy, see Poohs adventures of Freddy.
BoogaBoogaSmith 1 year ago
What would happen in you put the video side-by-side while one is playing forward and the other is playing backwards with the hashes lined up?
Backtrace1970 1 year ago
@Backtrace1970 I've actually tried that with certain sections of the film. There are "line ups" all over the place.
shawnfella 1 year ago
@shawnfella OK, here's another stab at it to justify my "untenable assertion" assertion. Like Pink Floyd having synched their DarkSOTM album with the first 45 minutes of The Wizard of Oz, the technology & precision required did not in exist when TS was made. That Kubrick numerically linked any Single Frame in a 8 reel film print with another is hugely problematic from a technical standpoint. This feat, like a hit team on Kennedy, would minimally require an intensive, precise collaboration.
orkneyrd 1 year ago
@orkneyrd Quote from a biographer... "Editing The Shining took 18 months, largely due to Kubrick's method of demarking the celluloid strips (by hand, in a system only he understood). Assistant editors were pulling their hair out."
All tolled it was 500 days to put the film "in the can." Kubrick did most of the chopping by himself. "The technology and precision required" (as you say) most certainly DID exist (at the time).
shawnfella 1 year ago
shawnfella; Reconsider defending the frame count aspects of your theory & concentrate on the strange, ineffable aspects of the sound, set dressing, camera setups & dialogue. with mysteries yet to unfold. The 24fps back-conversion from the 24fps to NTSC conversion is not a tenable assertion shawnfella, for technical reasons we can get into. Projectionists would also routinely 'cut to picture' at reel ends when making prints up, converting intended sound & picture fadeouts to jump cuts.
orkneyrd 1 year ago
@orkneyrd Isn't that exactly what I am doing, as well as providing a numerical analog that guides the mise en scene. Give me a break with your "untenable assertions"... you don't know what you are talking about.
shawnfella 1 year ago
I think it's necessary to look at this from the pov of a film student or pro which is what Shawn appears to be. Now that I've shifted to my right brain and stopped looking for logic I see a mysterious symmetry from a master mind. Why he did this is one of the many questions that will crop up. He has left that for us to figure out I suppose and is for those that love a mystery and who doesn't. Quite a remarkable discovery now that I've reviewed it. Yes, there was a maze in the final scene...
alto100 1 year ago
Film exhibition of "The Shining", Pt. 3 Although the frame count issues undermine a good deal of this Shown analysis, i want to commend the fanatical approach to decoding this chilling, Kubrick masterpiece, I agree with some earlier posts that this film in particular is densely encoded in an extraordinary manner with planned, interrelated links and patterns throughout. I can't fully get into "The Shining", however, until I grok what's up with Jupiter's moons, & that French furniture.
orkneyrd 1 year ago
@orkneyrd The Shining and 2001 are fully cross-pollinated. The "frame count issues" are accounted for and incorporated. It's the first thing you've got to do... with all of the films. Kubrick is drawing numeric maps. Precision is key.
shawnfella 1 year ago
I just counted my self as the 6,666 viewer-Spooky!
THAWK3 1 year ago
@THAWK3 It rolls over every four hours. If you are seeing a number, it's not you. It's someone a few hours before. Still, though, of all the numbers it could have been, that is definitely a "coincidental" roll over digit.
shawnfella 1 year ago
Film exhibition of "The Shining" Pt. 2. I must be the reluctant debunker of the numerical / math / arithmetic exercise of this otherwise intriguing examination of "The Shining". A primary flaw in the numbered-frame analysis sections, apart from the basic timing & arrangements of scenes, is that Kubrick's complex edits had no modern equivalent of specifically frame-numbered work print to encode intensional numerical relationships between the modern digital frames, numbered
at a later date.
orkneyrd 1 year ago
@orkneyrd That's why, to micro-analyze the time code in this film, you have to convert your digital copy back to 24 frames a second from its DVD frame rate. And you have to do it in such a way as to minimize frame blending artifacts. Elements of Kubrick's Code revolve around the 24 frame rate and its reverse the number 42. Many of Kubrick's metaphor layers are wrapped in the dynamics of a film projector.
shawnfella 1 year ago
This spooky take & analysis is new to me, although I presented the majority of Kubrick's brilliant films in the 35mm and 70mm format- over a 35-year period, on a large, curved screen of a 900-seat historic theatre, with state-of-the-art optics & sound. "The Shining" was initially presented in 35mm, & (I believe) Dolby [SR?] Stereo 4-track optical sound with subwoofers cranked up. Lot's of 'sub'-liminal stuff packed in there alright, and weird sound transients on scene changes etc.
orkneyrd 1 year ago
@orkneyrd A film print of any one of his films is the way to go. I presently saw the Shining in a big theater but it was digital, they were projecting Blue Ray. It completely sucked.
shawnfella 1 year ago
So what is the point of all this? So Kubric was a post production nerd arranging all this in mathematical symmetry... how does that add to the theme and flavor of the film? This is all grist for the sub conscious... Why did Kubrick do this? No answer yet to that from this treatment... but who cares? Aren't there more important things to do?
alto100 1 year ago
@alto100 I think this is important. Other people think honey bees are important. Do you ask them snidely what their point is?
shawnfella 1 year ago
@shawnfella Honey bees don't talk or write but you do. Just tell me why you think it's important. That's all. I'd appreciate anything you have to share. I really love this film too.
alto100 1 year ago
@alto100 Read the comments section. I've answered that question about six times already.
shawnfella 1 year ago
Does this have something to do with the NWO ?
sparksilence 1 year ago
@sparksilence What's the NWO spelled backwards. That should answer your question.
shawnfella 1 year ago
Great analysis but what it all means only Kubrick knows it I presume.
Misstorys 1 year ago
@Misstorys No. He seeded the answer to "what it all means" throughout 12 movies. The answer is clear enough once you grok the language. Kubrick is the actor wielding the language. We must understand what "part" he is playing. Kubrick inserted HIM SELF into his movies in ways that Hitchcock couldn't imagine. For example, go to 35:53 in the long cut. There's Kubrick, plain as day, reflected in the Shining of the chrome-top dish cover, center screen, first third up from the bottom. He reflects.
shawnfella 1 year ago
Arithmetic is adding, subtraction, multiplication and division. Numerology is using all the preceding to arrive at some hidden message or meaning. Numerology is EXACTLY what you are doing, and it is a fool's errand. But I know Kubrick was up to something! It's just not what is explained in this vid.
nitemareman1 1 year ago
@nitemareman1 If you say so.
shawnfella 1 year ago
I don't even hear the word 'shone' spoken. I've viewed this twice now and I still can't make out any word at all. If there is anything there at all is was a waste of Kubrick's time; unless his point was to make a movie that subliminally made viewers tell their friends not to go see it.
evergreen433 1 year ago 2
@evergreen433 I guess if you can't hear it you can't here it. There's no accounting for wax.
shawnfella 1 year ago
@shawnfella
I can't hear anything that sounds remotely like a word either. It sounds like a dresser being dragged over a rough floor to me, or a piece of metal being struck with a blunt instrument, etc. etc. If you played it and asked people to submit words or sounds they thought it might be you'd get all sorts of entries. Too bad you front loaded it with your desired result. You get low marks for your research technique.
mscir 1 year ago
@mscir The extremity of your negation gives you away. Remotely, you say? A sharp SSHH sound followed by a vowelization that is AHHH followed by a descending consonant pinch that concludes as NNNN. I'm familiar enough with the sound. It's my name. Shawn. Only it's not my name. It's that other word that sounds like my name Shone.
If you go to the film, and listen there, you can even here it is intoned with Kubrick's Bronx accent and its tonality matches the ambiance and reverb of the set.
shawnfella 1 year ago
@shawnfella
Haha, apparently you hear what you want to hear. The 'extremity of your negation'?! If anyone is being extreme here... oh well, I'll stop trying to reason with you, my first post was clear enough. I guess I'll agree to disagree and say we all hear what we want to hear hey!
mscir 1 year ago
@mscir You said "I can't hear anything that sounds remotely like a word,"
That sounds extreme to me... as in, you are extremely deaf and/or insensitive to the sound of a human voice.
YOU are hearing what you "want" to hear. I'm hearing what's in the audio track.
shawnfella 1 year ago
@evergreen433 So, what you are saying is that you are basically deaf, AND dumb.
shawnfella 4 months ago
Any boob can find any message anywhere using numerology. There is NO POINT to the numbers "decoded" by the creator of this vid. It's all hullabaloo. Just like the bible code weirdos and Jim Garrison the DA that thought he decoded the Kennedy assassination. I find the idea that Kubrick encoded something about the Apollo moon landings in the film much more credible. I think the "shone" tracks could be about something entirely different.
nitemareman1 1 year ago
@nitemareman1 I'm not using numerology. I am using arithmetic.
shawnfella 1 year ago 3
I watched this movie once when it first came out on pay TV and it creeped me out. Really disturbing and never could watch it again nor would I as it is too disturbing. I don't care what message trip this guy was into, the less exposure to it the better.
LibertyTreeBud 1 year ago
@LibertyTreeBud I have to admit, I totally understand your point of view.
shawnfella 1 year ago
Who is Mr. Kubrick speaking to when he says "shone"? I am wondering if he is speaking to the machine, following its directions. Evil must have a free will and by saying shone, he is making the watcher aware. The machine speaks numerologically as it is a computer, correct? I find it difficult to believe Kubrick is showing us anything as he is working for the machine/computer, not us.
regardingme1 1 year ago
@regardingme1 He is speaking to you, the film analyst. The Shone Report is the sound of Kubrick taunting you to engage his method. It's a big footprint on a long trail in a holographic maze language of uncanny coincidence. Once you hear it, you can't NOT hear it. Once you measure it, you can't ignore it. Numbers don't lie. The Shone Report is more than a footprint - it's one of many doorways into the maze. The point is not the maze, but what you see while trying to get out.
shawnfella 1 year ago
The Duality of Man. Conscious and Sub-Conscious. Left and Right. Ying and Yang. Light and Darkness. Good and Bad. Positive and Negative. Up and Down. And, everyone's favorite....in and out!
tribexa 1 year ago
@tribexa That's very 2 dimensional. What about forwards and back along with left and right?
MrSmibby 1 year ago
Amazing work! Great finds.
"The single most insulting thing you can tell a creative person is, upon viewing their creation, "you have too much free time". Every time you say somebody has "too much free time," the part of you that used to love making things for pure joy dies a little"
RavenCK 1 year ago 19
@RavenCK I totally agree... these are the words of an almost dead man talking to you
matrat57 11 months ago
Sorry, but this is horseshit, the first Shining coincidences were impressive though.
dgl1962 1 year ago
@dgl1962 I disagree with your assessment of my work, and of Kubrick's subliminal maze, the likes of which you will probably never see. What are "the first Shining coincidences?
shawnfella 1 year ago
@shawnfella I may have been too coarse in criticizing your work, youtube anonymity can do that, sorry...
I'm not certain where I saw the other analysis of the Shining, but it went over the extensive use of the Apollo moon program using many different symbols to hint about it, such as; the flag on the man's desk, the way that the kid stood up wearing some special shirt which depicted the launch, etc.
It's been a few months since I saw it so it's fading from my mind.
I just don't see much w/ this
dgl1962 1 year ago
@dgl1962 So what's your point?
shawnfella 1 year ago
@shawnfella My point is so what if "shone" is mentioned so many times at certain intervals?
What is your point?
dgl1962 1 year ago
@dgl1962 My point is that I have something quit amazing to show you but it is so completely unorthodox and labyrinthine that it will take you a good while to absorb it. I know this for a certainty because I know what's next, and what's after that, and so on. I'm showing you what I think are good gates into Kubrick's Maze: Sub Bears and this Shone Report. I've been in the maze, and I'm just trying to show you a good way through to the center where you are will understand what I'm on about.
shawnfella 1 year ago
@shawnfella Alright, fair enough, I'll give it another look.
dgl1962 1 year ago
I am trying to understand what the point is to any of this?
imasexiemonster 1 year ago 4
@imasexiemonster The point is, Kubrick created a movie out of a subliminal image maze in alignment with a subliminal number maze. It is a film language that has never been observed, let alone analyzed. It is a coded rendition of the untellable tale that Kubrick has extended throughout his career. The "point" is, finding out WHY he did this. Before you do that you have to know WHAT he did. What's the point of the Shone Report? It's one word in a language Kubrick is speaking. There's much more.
shawnfella 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Pretty neat stuff !!
txrasputin 1 year ago
Some people just have way too much time on their hands.
JOHNHBYK 1 year ago
@JOHNHBYK Some people just have way too much cliche' on their tongues.
shawnfella 1 year ago 6
I think Kubrick laid paper trails in all of his work. His last film , "Eyes Wide Shut" is crawling with clues.
I applaud your sterling efforts in trying to unravel the mind of an undoubted genius.
He was the greatest of them all !
charliemctruth 1 year ago 2
i'm slow. is kubrick trying to tell us something about what the plan is to enslave the population with his movies? i know he's trying to say something with eyes wide shut.
there are people who shine
watchman001 1 year ago
@watchman001 Your conclusion (about enslavement) does not sound at all "slow" to me, watchman.
Everybody "Shines" to one degree or another. As Dick Hallorann says at exactly 30 minutes into the film: '...but there ARE other folks (who can Shine) though mostly they don't know it, or don't believe it."
Absolutely true.
shawnfella 1 year ago
@shawnfella you think that's why kubrick isn't here anymore?
watchman001 1 year ago
@watchman001 I don't think it is why he isn't here anymore. I think it is ABOUT why he isn't here anymore.
There's an excised scene at the end of The Shining that maybe a few thousand people saw before it was excised (post release). Reportedly, Ullman tells of the police looking everywhere at the Overlook for Jack's body and finding it missing. Why was it cut in a panic? Second Thoughts, or, Kubrick Theater? Most likely both. Kubrick Second Thoughts Theater. Isn't that The Shining?
shawnfella 1 year ago
@7:59 its like someone comes to take the wife and kid away and they go willingly...
@9:40 it says they brought a decorator in from chicago... huh... would that be Obama? Mr. Decorator at the white house?
bellerian1 1 year ago
Wouldn't it make more sense if the word Shone being muttered means that its showing you the sequences of how things will move along? Sorta like events to look for ... ie the phones all being down for the winter and not being turned back on till spring/summer... maybe means all comms will stop during the engineered winter till we are dealt with and then comms will resume from those that are left. The idea that shone means mind reading doesn't fit to me. u must have alot of free time... :)
bellerian1 1 year ago
@bellerian1 If Shone is the past tense of Shine, and if the film is called The Shining, and if Shining means a form of psi (as explained in the film)... then how doesn't it "fit" (to you)?
Sounds to me like you are simply engaging in contrariety.
shawnfella 1 year ago
@shawnfella It seems you want to take the words literally. What if Shone is meant to be Shown? and the Shining means "I am shining the light on whats coming" and thus the parts where he utters Shone in the film perhaps link up to Events that must occur in the process of the world change that is planned to occur over a period of time.
I don't care one way or the other if you are right or wrong. I was just trying to add another potential idea around what is attempted to be "shown".
bellerian1 1 year ago
@bellerian1 If you decide it says Shown instead of Shone, your subsequent "read" on it still takes the word literally. This is a maze. There are many turns, many linking passages, many forks. It could be both.
shawnfella 1 year ago
@shawnfella It very well could be both. Let me ask you this. What insight do you think Kubrick had into the Elite plans for the world? What circles was he in that makes you think he would have access to information to be able to embed it into this movie? I don't know the guy very well but depending on his circle of influence it might help draw some conclusions or put new ideas in play. Take care!
bellerian1 1 year ago
@bellerian1 Good question. And I think, key. Kirk Douglas did a movie, The Final Countdown, that was released in France 39 days after the Shining in America, He did another called Saturn 3, released in France on the same day as The Shining in America. And Douglas did another one, DePalma's, "Home Movies" a couple of weeks before The Shining. Final Countdown is about Time Travel. I think definitely Kirk Douglas, of Spartacus and Paths of Glory, was an early Kubrick source. Him and Life Magazine.
shawnfella 1 year ago
@shawnfella I mean LOOK Magazine.
shawnfella 1 year ago
@shawnfella Can you point me to the "DePalma" home movies? Is that in reference to Bruce DePalma? The same guy that did the N machine version of a homopolar generator and who worked with Tewari in india to advance the same into a large scale device? That might be an interesting link. That guy, Bruce, died at 53 from cancer. He was an MIT graduate that ran this site thats still up in memory of him:
depalma.pair.com
Great articles on there.
bellerian1 1 year ago
@bellerian1 Brian and Bruce DePalma are brothers.
shawnfella 1 year ago
@shawnfella Home Movies was about a guy named "The Maestro" (Douglas) who was mentoring another on how to make a movie. Saturn 3 is about a rampaging horny Robot that is of "two minds" at an isolated "food" plantation near Saturn. The thematic mirroring of Kubrick's etymology is precise.
shawnfella 1 year ago
He also directed the Apollo Films.
UNTC321 1 year ago
Not going to support or discredit this so... Hurry up with the conclusions in part 2, 15 minutes of theory applications and no ending... Thx for nothing.
writtenwrath 1 year ago
@writtenwrath There is no "theory" presented. I am merely showing what is there.
shawnfella 1 year ago
@shawnfella
So what is it you're actually showing? That you can make up a bunch of numerical jargon to support your ideas of Kubrick trying to tell his audience that there are mysterious powers that subvert the pineal gland and hinder human telekinetic evolution?
Cuz if so, good video.
If not... you should make it about that.
writtenwrath 1 year ago
@writtenwrath I didn't make the "numerical jargon" as you call it. Kubrick did. I am merely trying to illuminate it. The Shining is a virtual encyclopedia of "numerical jargon"... and this video is just the tip of a very large and very dense numerical iceberg.
shawnfella 1 year ago
Nice one....will have to check out the film again to see if I can hear them!
jonjo220 1 year ago