i've danced ballet and played a few instruments to some level of competence, so with those caveats I just want to say that this playing of 'Chopin' has a near ethereal quality I find missing in so many intrepetations. At this level, true artists are different, doesn't mean better or worse, just different, why they are true artists? But this 'Chopin' - this one here- has got to be my favorite, the musicality and interpretation are divine. if I ever choreograph again,.. this is it...
My favourite romantic composer is too Chopin, but I am in disagree with you about germans, and I think that your words are unfair. The "german" spirit is one of the most romantic of all, and it was caught in the movement of Sturm und Drang, that had very important personalities like Goethe. The music of Schumann and Brahms has all of that. Listen for instance The concert for piano of Schumann of the 2º concert for piano of Brahms...
@astronomo16 I totally agree with Chopin. Chopin´s kingdom was / is pretty small, but in his kingdom he is the king. His kingdom is called The Piano. Somehow this piece of Schumann is nice, but there is one thing missing - the beauty: Tschaikowsky ,after he met Brahms in Leipzig, said the same about Brahms. Maybe Schumanns and also Brahms were just too "german" - hard to explain, but can´t find no other words. Well, I understand why Chopin said that´s no music, he loved Bach, Mozart, Hummel...
The comment about Arrau being the greatest pianist of the 20th century was certainly not my comment, although it seems to be attributed to me. I would have said that he was one of the greatest of all pianists - but saying that he is the greatest, is an exaggeration which i would never make, since there were so many great pianists too numerous to name in the 20th century. Among them are, of course, Rachmaninoff, Horowitz, Kapell, Lipatti, Schnabel, Rubinstein, Serkin, Gieseking, Cortot, etc.
3 weeks ago, I was at a recital by Hamelin, where he played the Carnaval - as it was the first time I heard this piece, my memories are somewhat vague, but I especially remember how he played the "reconnaissance" part (with the repetitions in the right), and BOY was it great.
Playful, fresh, dancy, sprinkling... just awesome. Nothing to complain about Arrau's more straightforward rendition here, but I so prefer H's on that one :D
@wuyiying425 I agree with you, artistically speaking Arrau was the greatest of the great pianists from the last and actual century and the more complete of all of them...
goose bumps everywhere. beautifully interpreted. i guess chopin must not have liked schumann's composition style or something, because it's impossible not to acknowledge a talent as wonderful as that of schumann's.
Una extraordinaria sensibilidad expresada en esta interpretación. Arrau como siempre logra una interpretación madura llena de vitalismo y belleza. Gracias a you tube por brindarnos acceso a este material invaluable.
Just too many clunkers. I guess he is "one" of the greatest pianists of all time, but maybe 50th or 60th on the list. Today's standards are impossibly demanding; Arrau fits a lost era. I prefer Rubinstein, a contemporary.
@nearenough3 For me and some critics too is the first of the list... no one other pianist put same nouances, fidelity to the composer and sensitivity on his interpretation like Claudio Arrau. In many aspects is above other artists of the keyboard. Claudio Arrau was always special and different from the rest, since his extraordinary technique till his personal qualities ... his humanism (reflected greatly on his performances), humility, etc ... resuming his philosophy of life.
When one has the temerity to criticize supremely great legendary artists such as Arrau, Horowitz, Cortot, or, indeed, even Rubinstein, at times for occasionally hitting a wrong note, here or there, instead of realizing and appreciating wholly their magisterial playing and interpretative genius is, as the great violinist, Nathan Milstein, once said to me, " like criticizing Niagara Falls." He was commenting about criticism of Horowitz. That comment should apply to all of the above.
@nearenough3 Today, many pianists, especially young ones, worry only about occasional wrong notes, as if that is the most important flaw one should be concerned about as a performer instead of realizing that being boring and having a lack of interpretative imagination is far worse than playing occasional wrong notes. It's better to temper criticism and instead learn from great masters, like Arrau, Horowitz, and other past piano legends who contributed to setting for us the highest standards.
What exactly are "today's standards", I may ask? Marc-Andre Hamelin is a "today's" pianist, and is "considered" to be one of the leading technicians of "today", and he sure does have make his share of "clunkers" on stage.
@twooffour N: I was referring to the open competition brought about by "modern" recordings, LPs, VHS, CDs, You Tube and Blu-Ray exposing performers to more exacting critiques and standards that didn't exist decades ago. Add to that communications, the internet, blogs, instant news and it's a wonder any dare to even play in a public forum. Arrau is OK. It's my opinion that he is not that all exciting. Horowitz was peculiarly shocking. Arrau is a nice player. OK? Hamelin is good but a savant.
Yes, and with all these new media and the internet, pianists can still flub up notes on stage. And it seemed to me you called Arrau mediocre for doing exactly that, flubbing up occasional notes, as opposed to "today's pianists" or whatever. Correct me if I'm wrong?
"Just too many clunkers. Today's standards are impossibly demanding; Arrau fits a lost era."
Translation: Arrau was good for his old era where the standards for ACCURACY (or what did you mean by "clunkerS" again?) were lower due to the lack of modern media, but mediocre for today's standards. Which is completely fallacious.
Then you go on to call Rubinstein a "contemporary". Really? That guy had some nice "clunkers" in some of his recitals, as well :D
I've always wanted to know who was the genius that decided to show the score at the beginning of each piece for such long periods of time, instead of showing Arrau's complete performance. What a mistake.
@monicapianista Credo anche io che Arrau, assieme a Benedetti Michelangeli e a Rubinstei, siano stati pianisti "ammazza Carnaval", nel senso che dopo le loro registrazioni è difficile inserirlo nei programmi pianistici; in effetti, il pezzo sembra non essere più così eseguito ... Di recente, solo Kissin si è cimentato in una registrazione e lo inserisce spesso nei suoi recitals
A brief segment of "Chopin" is played (somewhat amateurishly-possibly by Paul McCartney)at the beginning of The Beatles eerie sound collage "Revolution 9".
I remember the first time I heard chiarina, I was laying in bed and listening to kamien's compilation for music:an appreciation of. I've loved shumann and arrau ever since.
wHAT HE HAS THAT SO MANY PIANISTS OF THE PAST 50 YEARS LACK....... is an individually non-mechanistically tailored phrasing that brings an intellectual,spiritual,& psychological depth to the piece that so many others have eschewed in favor of relentless tonal beauty in a mechanistically predictable & unlyrical phrasing rhythm.
Arrau was and will always remain 1 of the biggest geniouses wich the piano had to encounter, lucky piano... If we could all play hafl as gooe as the maestro... Unbelievable!
Chile is a country of many great artists. This is an outstanding video of the Schumann Carnaval. There is another great performance of this piece by the Chilean Patricio Molina, you guys should hear it!
yes, i like those three the best too. after hearing this i got so distracted by them that i couldn't make myself play anything else for days, even though i'm not even supposed to be working on them at all.
i've danced ballet and played a few instruments to some level of competence, so with those caveats I just want to say that this playing of 'Chopin' has a near ethereal quality I find missing in so many intrepetations. At this level, true artists are different, doesn't mean better or worse, just different, why they are true artists? But this 'Chopin' - this one here- has got to be my favorite, the musicality and interpretation are divine. if I ever choreograph again,.. this is it...
CosmosNut 1 month ago
Favorite part of the peice
SDxEagle 2 months ago
I love the way that the Paganini movement suggests all the diabolism of that famed violinists virtuosity.
RWinkley02124 3 months ago
My favourite romantic composer is too Chopin, but I am in disagree with you about germans, and I think that your words are unfair. The "german" spirit is one of the most romantic of all, and it was caught in the movement of Sturm und Drang, that had very important personalities like Goethe. The music of Schumann and Brahms has all of that. Listen for instance The concert for piano of Schumann of the 2º concert for piano of Brahms...
astronomo16 6 months ago
Chopin hated this dedication of Schumann to him. Chopin even said that this composition had no music. I am in disagree with Chopin hehe
astronomo16 9 months ago
@astronomo16 I totally agree with Chopin. Chopin´s kingdom was / is pretty small, but in his kingdom he is the king. His kingdom is called The Piano. Somehow this piece of Schumann is nice, but there is one thing missing - the beauty: Tschaikowsky ,after he met Brahms in Leipzig, said the same about Brahms. Maybe Schumanns and also Brahms were just too "german" - hard to explain, but can´t find no other words. Well, I understand why Chopin said that´s no music, he loved Bach, Mozart, Hummel...
junghesse 6 months ago
I chuckled when I saw "Chopin"...
keetner 9 months ago
The comment about Arrau being the greatest pianist of the 20th century was certainly not my comment, although it seems to be attributed to me. I would have said that he was one of the greatest of all pianists - but saying that he is the greatest, is an exaggeration which i would never make, since there were so many great pianists too numerous to name in the 20th century. Among them are, of course, Rachmaninoff, Horowitz, Kapell, Lipatti, Schnabel, Rubinstein, Serkin, Gieseking, Cortot, etc.
grobbinspiano 11 months ago
3 weeks ago, I was at a recital by Hamelin, where he played the Carnaval - as it was the first time I heard this piece, my memories are somewhat vague, but I especially remember how he played the "reconnaissance" part (with the repetitions in the right), and BOY was it great.
Playful, fresh, dancy, sprinkling... just awesome. Nothing to complain about Arrau's more straightforward rendition here, but I so prefer H's on that one :D
twooffour 11 months ago
Can't even see his hands
7Saburo 1 year ago
hard Paganini!!
Ray0X0 1 year ago
Chiarina = Clara Wieck
newFranzFerencLiszt 1 year ago
¡Qué maravilla!
Ray0X0 1 year ago
@grobbinspiano I can not aggre with you more
In my opinion, Arrau is not only the gratest pinist in 20th, but all tine
As far as I know, better than any pianist in present time.
wuyiying425 1 year ago
@wuyiying425 I agree with you, artistically speaking Arrau was the greatest of the great pianists from the last and actual century and the more complete of all of them...
Ray0X0 1 year ago
@wuyiying425 what a pity he is DEAD
newFranzFerencLiszt 1 year ago
AMAZING!!!
TheBzjuuuTakashima 1 year ago
goose bumps everywhere. beautifully interpreted. i guess chopin must not have liked schumann's composition style or something, because it's impossible not to acknowledge a talent as wonderful as that of schumann's.
fuchion15 1 year ago
Arrau¨s chiarina simply perfect.
deadlyloop 1 year ago
Bravo!
richclayderman 1 year ago
Thank you very much for posting !
Sincerely
Avec reconnaissance ineffable
xanglat 1 year ago
Una extraordinaria sensibilidad expresada en esta interpretación. Arrau como siempre logra una interpretación madura llena de vitalismo y belleza. Gracias a you tube por brindarnos acceso a este material invaluable.
jesusangeleditor 1 year ago
Simply a genius of the interpretation...
Ray0X0 1 year ago
Just too many clunkers. I guess he is "one" of the greatest pianists of all time, but maybe 50th or 60th on the list. Today's standards are impossibly demanding; Arrau fits a lost era. I prefer Rubinstein, a contemporary.
nearenough3 1 year ago
@nearenough3 For me and some critics too is the first of the list... no one other pianist put same nouances, fidelity to the composer and sensitivity on his interpretation like Claudio Arrau. In many aspects is above other artists of the keyboard. Claudio Arrau was always special and different from the rest, since his extraordinary technique till his personal qualities ... his humanism (reflected greatly on his performances), humility, etc ... resuming his philosophy of life.
Ray0X0 1 year ago 2
@nearenough3
When one has the temerity to criticize supremely great legendary artists such as Arrau, Horowitz, Cortot, or, indeed, even Rubinstein, at times for occasionally hitting a wrong note, here or there, instead of realizing and appreciating wholly their magisterial playing and interpretative genius is, as the great violinist, Nathan Milstein, once said to me, " like criticizing Niagara Falls." He was commenting about criticism of Horowitz. That comment should apply to all of the above.
grobbinspiano 1 year ago
@grobbinspiano
N: Gee, I was only expressing an opinion, not pulling a 220 volt switch!
nearenough3 1 year ago
@nearenough3 Today, many pianists, especially young ones, worry only about occasional wrong notes, as if that is the most important flaw one should be concerned about as a performer instead of realizing that being boring and having a lack of interpretative imagination is far worse than playing occasional wrong notes. It's better to temper criticism and instead learn from great masters, like Arrau, Horowitz, and other past piano legends who contributed to setting for us the highest standards.
grobbinspiano 1 year ago
@grobbinspiano
How about criticizing Horowith for MAJORLY FLUBBING UP at some of the (later) live performances?
twooffour 11 months ago
@nearenough3
What exactly are "today's standards", I may ask? Marc-Andre Hamelin is a "today's" pianist, and is "considered" to be one of the leading technicians of "today", and he sure does have make his share of "clunkers" on stage.
twooffour 11 months ago
@twooffour N: I was referring to the open competition brought about by "modern" recordings, LPs, VHS, CDs, You Tube and Blu-Ray exposing performers to more exacting critiques and standards that didn't exist decades ago. Add to that communications, the internet, blogs, instant news and it's a wonder any dare to even play in a public forum. Arrau is OK. It's my opinion that he is not that all exciting. Horowitz was peculiarly shocking. Arrau is a nice player. OK? Hamelin is good but a savant.
nearenough3 11 months ago
@nearenough3
Yes, and with all these new media and the internet, pianists can still flub up notes on stage. And it seemed to me you called Arrau mediocre for doing exactly that, flubbing up occasional notes, as opposed to "today's pianists" or whatever. Correct me if I'm wrong?
twooffour 11 months ago
@twooffour I said he was mediocre, OK and nice. These don't mean bad, Now you can consign me to my punishment.
nearenough3 11 months ago
@nearenough3
No, you said:
"Just too many clunkers. Today's standards are impossibly demanding; Arrau fits a lost era."
Translation: Arrau was good for his old era where the standards for ACCURACY (or what did you mean by "clunkerS" again?) were lower due to the lack of modern media, but mediocre for today's standards. Which is completely fallacious.
Then you go on to call Rubinstein a "contemporary". Really? That guy had some nice "clunkers" in some of his recitals, as well :D
twooffour 11 months ago
hey, dont worry. the genius that shows the score at the beginning have already died, probably...kkkkkk
dukedome 1 year ago
Great weight technique....
bersa888 2 years ago
I've always wanted to know who was the genius that decided to show the score at the beginning of each piece for such long periods of time, instead of showing Arrau's complete performance. What a mistake.
psabatm 2 years ago
5:19
moonstruckdorian 2 years ago
Fino ad ora non ho mai sentino un Carnaval così... ci arrivani vicino Michelangeli e Rubinstein ma non sono alla pari...
Bravo!
monicapianista 2 years ago
e be' claudio arrau un maestro nel senso piu' buono del termine grande sempre :)
1LUPENZO 2 years ago
@monicapianista Credo anche io che Arrau, assieme a Benedetti Michelangeli e a Rubinstei, siano stati pianisti "ammazza Carnaval", nel senso che dopo le loro registrazioni è difficile inserirlo nei programmi pianistici; in effetti, il pezzo sembra non essere più così eseguito ... Di recente, solo Kissin si è cimentato in una registrazione e lo inserisce spesso nei suoi recitals
cinquepaolo 1 year ago
wow his fingers are a blurr....
Beauty12870 2 years ago
so lovely i enjoy listenning to it
ksarah15 2 years ago
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Chiarina too fast, Chopin too fast, in others doesnt make pauses where he should
jewish1972 2 years ago
Too fast ? The score says "passionato" for Chiarina and "agitato" for Chopin...
AgnesPerditaNitt 2 years ago
With Michelangeli's version this is the best recording ever.Arrau is an other legend of pianoplayng.
Ellinidara 2 years ago
How lovely he playing "chopin".................
kempff95 2 years ago 25
Relaxation technique at it's finest!
darkkerrigan 2 years ago 3
muy bueno
Elcomunisto 2 years ago
Interesting performance of considerable historical merit
firebreathone2 2 years ago
A brief segment of "Chopin" is played (somewhat amateurishly-possibly by Paul McCartney)at the beginning of The Beatles eerie sound collage "Revolution 9".
SEQUINS74 3 years ago 2
i didnt know that. good information!
magugreech 2 years ago
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SEQUINS74 3 years ago
El pasaje referido a Chopin (1:15") es delicioso.
Coque019 3 years ago
love the chiarina :D
cCrazyBee 3 years ago
i love Clara Wieck! (-:
musicallo 3 years ago
Fantastic performance! But synchronization is off. What video is this from?
sll10 3 years ago
oh you every time touch my heart shumman
brandix30000 3 years ago
I remember the first time I heard chiarina, I was laying in bed and listening to kamien's compilation for music:an appreciation of. I've loved shumann and arrau ever since.
JohnnyYugoslavia 3 years ago
I love "Chopin", so beautiful! I decide to learn it!!
felix0911176727 3 years ago
Paganini is one of the most difficult pieces to study I've ever seen :O
raptor0985 4 years ago
this part is great!
diaswsw10 4 years ago
wHAT HE HAS THAT SO MANY PIANISTS OF THE PAST 50 YEARS LACK....... is an individually non-mechanistically tailored phrasing that brings an intellectual,spiritual,& psychological depth to the piece that so many others have eschewed in favor of relentless tonal beauty in a mechanistically predictable & unlyrical phrasing rhythm.
smithsherman 4 years ago 5
well said.
pianogirl714 4 years ago
I don't even know if this is correct, carnaval, freely translated stands for "carnival"?
This song depicts to me the unseriosity of life, a long life...
CB1000a 4 years ago
Arrau was and will always remain 1 of the biggest geniouses wich the piano had to encounter, lucky piano... If we could all play hafl as gooe as the maestro... Unbelievable!
VincentVA87 4 years ago
Chile is a country of many great artists. This is an outstanding video of the Schumann Carnaval. There is another great performance of this piece by the Chilean Patricio Molina, you guys should hear it!
chilean100 4 years ago
It makes you want to go to the bust erected in his honor on Américo Vespucio and leave a flower.
billinrio 4 years ago
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Woukd you tell me the name of those "many great artists, so piece of chauvinist?
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ytpiano7 4 years ago
oh,very beautiful....I love Chiarina and Estrella; when I listen they my heart explode
FabioThePianist 4 years ago
honestly, listening to this is one of the most pleasant things that ever happened to me! Thanks for posting. I love you!
omarfarahat 4 years ago
oh, i looove chiarina!!
pianogirl714 4 years ago
I love the whole Carnaval...but Chiarina,Chopin and Estrella are extremely beautiful..
EilisErina 4 years ago
yes, i like those three the best too. after hearing this i got so distracted by them that i couldn't make myself play anything else for days, even though i'm not even supposed to be working on them at all.
pianogirl714 4 years ago
Chiarina is what got me into Schumann.
subpolarity 4 years ago
Excelente
jp147wizard 4 years ago
I agree with mlkn79, is absolutely the best Chiarina!, Arrau is a genius
citlalliguevara 4 years ago
The best Chiarina I have ever heard.
mlkn79 5 years ago
Same here!!
soami2u 3 years ago
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que buen video...gracias por subirlo!
anblanco333 5 years ago