My first thought was: "Staccato HERE?! Really?" Bur I had to admitt this interpretation has its charm. Mr Gould is supremely original and brilliant, as always!
@Evilunderthesun Good catch. Actually, if you listen carefully and have good earphones, you might hear that he played the first trill very very quietly. :D
@LittleLulubee I used to play this when I used to play the piano many years ago..this piece was a challenge to say the least, as most of Bach's works are. However after you hard work and practicing, and intepretating, it is an exhiliarting feeling to play this ! Enjoy it.... :)
In the baroque era, trills and other ornaments where added by the performer, often quasi-improvised. Bach rarely added such ornaments on the score. Any ornaments you find in your edition are probably derived from his students.
1. Those trills sound better on harpsichord than on a piano.
2. A piano can sustain a note longer, so even though a harpsichord would need that trill to sustain the note for 3 measures, it's audible on the piano for 3 measures at that speed.
And as long as it doesn't take away people's willingness to listen to him, it's ultimately up to the performer to decide what should be played and how it should be played.
@evilunderthesun91 he changes things constantly in everything he played, It was his idea of composing, or giving new life to the pieces bach and other composers wrote.
The purpose of the trill was to provide a sort of sostenuto effect, which otherwise couldn't be easily managed on a harpsichord (or other instruments of Bach's time). Since Gould is using a piano, he doesn't need to use the trill, as the piano sustains the note just by holding down the key (so the strings remain undamped). It's interesting that he plays the second (left-hard) trill, though. I always find that one the more difficult!
@amylNRG Considero que esa es una explicación bastante honesta y amable con respecto al trino. Lo triste es que en la perfecta ejecución solo se haya preocupado por un adorno. Bueno...gracias a ti por la muy aceptable aclaración. He esuchado muchas versiones pero no logro comprender la manera en que Gould aún a esa velocidad lo hace sonar tan perfecto...
@evilunderthesun91 Personally I was delighted to see that trill consigned to oblivion. This lovely piece to my mind is ruined on the piano by those two trills. On the harpischord that trill is less obtrusive. And Baroque music by and large permitted great latitude in choosing the ornaments .... a perfomer might omit or even add his own as he felt appropriate. More disturbing are bars 11 and 13 ... played as triplets. And virtually everyone does this. No triplets in the score anywhere.
Whenever I listen to Bach I always imagine my favorite quote from him: "The aim and final end of all music should be none other than the glory of God and the refreshment of the soul." Therefore I think at the end of each piece he played, I see him saying "Behold!" either from the technical difficulty or emotional expression.
Now, pieces such as airs and sarabandes should be played with much emotion, but inventions are made to show off skill, specifically. Which is why I like Goulds performance.
Very, very fast. The faster and faster the inventions are played, the more and more schizophrenic they appear. This effect is magnified my this minor and particularly frenetic invention and by Gould's intense dynamic coloring. Ouch, ouch, ouch. O, how I like it though.
That's the best you can come up with? You're fat? You need to post some videos of yourself playing videos. You can't even play piano. we=me? you're an idiot. hehehe
Ever hear the Greek saying: The Italian will kill his father for money. hahahaha
I had never seen a whale playing piano, you're the first, bigfattheman ahauhau. It's funny to see how you shake the sausages you have instead of fingers ahahahah never laughed so much ahaha
You are disgusting. seansotheman knows how to play piano and you don't. Going to youtube forums and writing insults doesn't mean you know anything. It means you don't know anything. Go to hell.
It's true... he doesn't respect the original score. He adds some ornaments, and remove some others. There was a tremolo at 0:15 that has been removed, just like the trills at 0:30 and 0:42. In the end, that is from 0:43 to 0:45 he adds some notes that in the original score don't exist.
In my opinion, adding or ignoring ornaments is one thing, not respecting the score is a very different one. Ornaments are embellishments, and the performer can invent, change or ignore them to suit his own taste or just to play the piece differently every time. The most important things in music are those which are not in the score.
Where can I find this "original score"? Unless you're reading off of the nearly illegible photocopy of the original score, there is no original score. Also, ornaments are subjective and interpretive.
Oh good, so everyone can play Bach as he likes... right?
The on sale scores are the result of a philological and scientific work of many and many important scholars and musicians. Do you think their work isn't the most accurate? do you think to be better? Play as you like, but don't come and say that everything is relative because it is not.
Science? hehe, ok here's your sceientific experiment today. Look at the youtube user, "Bachscholar"'s interpretation of the piece compared to Gould's. They're both musicians/scholars. Why are their interpretations different, when, by your rational, all should be the same. You're all hyperbole, hehe.
Ahaha funny... you would me to comparate Gould with a youtube pianist.
I didn't say that the way Gould play Bach is bad. I think his one is the best interpretation ever. I simply said that probably it's not the way Bach intended to play that sheet. Also Michelangeli probably played the Galuppi sonatine better than Galuppi himself. But we're talking about scores, not about interpretation. This interpretation of Bach is, without any doubts, one of the best.
Your english is poor. "you would me to comparate"...?; "the way Gould play Bach is bad"...?
Your interpretation of the english language is equally poor. 'You' never said Gould was bad, 'I' never said Gould was bad, 'NOBODY' said Gould was bad. What are you talking about?
You say he's wrong on the tremolos and trills, when those are the very points that are open to interpretation in the score itself.
'you would me to comparate'... hahaha, now 'that's' funny!
Sorry, but I'm Italian, not English. We can speak italian, if you can.
I never said that Gould is wrong, I said he doesn't respect the commonly accepted score. I never said he plays it bad. His way is simply different from what is commonly supposed to be written by Bach. It's unusual, not wrong.
hahaha, you call yourself "we"? "we" is plural, it means more than one. Are you more than one person. This is the english service version of youtube. Don't the Italian's have youtube in their country? This is an English forum, hehe
you never said Gould was wrong, I never said Gould was wrong. You never said he plays it bad. I never said he plays it bad. You're making things up for the sake of argument, hahahaha!
I said: "We can speak Italian (each other), if you can (speak italian)"... We = Me and you... What's wrong? Are you kidding me? I think there's nothing to laugh. My english isn't perfect, I know, but I usually have dealings with people intelligent enough to understand.
BachScholar actually studied Bach to understand the tempos Bach intended for these to play at. Gould simply played his own interpretation. One is not better than the other, though I prefer Gould because he uses feeling rather than studies
Well, I can tell you for sure exactly if this is correct or not, what you people say. However, I won't be able to play this for a day or so, because I'm a busy bee lately.
username! I'm not criticizing Gould at all! I'm just stating that he is unconventional, and that can be good or bad. In this case, I think he actually accentuates the piece with his own flair.... I didn't mean to sound as if I was criticizing gould... haha
While composer's like Czerny and Cramer wrote finger dexterity studies Bach wrote harmony studies. No famous composer after Bach was able to compose harmonies without studying Bach first.
You're definitely right! :) I think I had two videos playing in two different windows at the same time. My bad :) Sorry it took so long to respond, but I've not logged on for a while. Cheers.
:..)
dasingingpengroup 2 weeks ago
The first trill is so quiet but If you listen you can hear it :-p--/---
poojacow101 1 month ago
@poojacow101 I managed to hear it two seconds after reading your comment. It's pretty short, eh?
apalmalarrain 2 weeks ago
Hi! This piece is from two or three voices invention?
90Canale 2 months ago
@90Canale Bach called them Two-Part Inventions and Three-Part Sinfonias. If it is an invention, it's two.
smitty01209 2 months ago
@90Canale two voice invention
noelsafont 1 month ago
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In my piano lesson they say no more "O My God!!'' when something unbelievable happens but
''O My Gould!!''
StephanePleyel 2 months ago
BACH avait écrit (on peut rêver), ce morceau pour G.GOULD !
MrTIRILLY 2 months ago
You are here Glenn...
gregorvet 4 months ago
I LOVE THIS PIECE!!! BACH FOREVER
ELFAN71 4 months ago
Lol that's Barrock n' Roll - Yngwie Malmsteen :D
Cobhc951 7 months ago
he is really the king of Bach!I could listen to him all day and night!!
vakiP3 7 months ago
If you liked this, look up "Bach 2 Part Invention" by Gordon Goodwin. :)
SheRicoSuave 7 months ago
i started learning this invention today :333
HawtCookiex3 7 months ago
My first thought was: "Staccato HERE?! Really?" Bur I had to admitt this interpretation has its charm. Mr Gould is supremely original and brilliant, as always!
Borysculus 8 months ago
@Evilunderthesun Good catch. Actually, if you listen carefully and have good earphones, you might hear that he played the first trill very very quietly. :D
DaveFer 8 months ago
I think it sounds better without the trill although I'm sure that if Glenn had decided to play it, It would have sounded very good regardless.
johnyprestige 8 months ago
prefiro batera
Felipe21223 8 months ago
I love his trill on his left hand
popsilverg 9 months ago
Good old Glenn Gould. The best.
UriAg 9 months ago
Yeah sure. I'd like to see him improvise a piece like that. THEN I'd be really impressed!
jakiner 9 months ago
wow
Jamie7466 9 months ago
I will play this piece for my exam in the National univercity of Colombia (Basic program), it is very beautyfull!!! B-)
GeekAndreus98 9 months ago
Verry well exellent
GeekAndreus98 9 months ago
Great job man! You do the inventions justice. Great color of sound
MrSpid3rFingers 10 months ago
i love how you play the inventions, its the best!!!!
ArleenZaensi 10 months ago
its just Glenn:)
goldenuniverses 10 months ago
I'll never play it like thiss dammit
carlotajoaquinaporra 10 months ago
i like how bach makes it sound like 3/4-handed pieces playing....
bolawarrior 1 year ago
He's great !!!
Ste86Horus 1 year ago
It's that nice light snack. That wonderful detached touch. Playing above the music.
drivenhome 1 year ago
fast but in a good way!
doodles636 1 year ago
I love you always Glenn Gould:)
7658724 1 year ago
I'm learning this right now, without a teacher. The hard part for me is figuring out the best fingering.
LittleLulubee 1 year ago
@LittleLulubee I used to play this when I used to play the piano many years ago..this piece was a challenge to say the least, as most of Bach's works are. However after you hard work and practicing, and intepretating, it is an exhiliarting feeling to play this ! Enjoy it.... :)
MVR326 1 year ago
Omg so fast thrills...
Is this human? xD
Iamrunescapemember 1 year ago
Fantastic.
bhinderbinder 1 year ago
he's magnific!!
lizzart26 1 year ago
it's so fast!!
Timotheedle 1 year ago
This one's my favorite :)
JasonTchavarria 1 year ago
Comment pourait-on, ne pas aimer ?
MrTIRILLY 1 year ago
Comment pourait-on, ne pas aimer ?
MrTIRILLY 1 year ago
my favorite invention of all!
pianoandpercussion 1 year ago
Awesome! Glen gould is very FAST and CORRECT
alexethanhoward 1 year ago
I have this on my sax scores. Can't play it as fast on the sax...
1001014 1 year ago
@1001014 lol thats intense!
quadginger 1 year ago
My favorite invention and the best performance of this invention in my opinion.
TheSecretPhantom 2 years ago 3
Glenn Gould is the Bach King. though 13 is better than 4
cjdrey 2 years ago 14
@cjdrey He's the Bach King, bbut he doesn't play 13 better than 4. Absolutely not.
Jarnobh 1 month ago
@cjdrey Do you think?
Jarnobh 1 month ago
incredible....big respect....
pezinokStreet 2 years ago 5
i wish i could play that left hand trino like him e.e
luahaceboo 2 years ago 3
hmm if i would start to learn an invention it would probably be this one.
Calamaistr 2 years ago
Ok, one question... where the hell did the first trill in the right hand go? (mesures 19-21) did he just remove it?? Great interpretation btw!
evilunderthesun91 2 years ago 49
In the baroque era, trills and other ornaments where added by the performer, often quasi-improvised. Bach rarely added such ornaments on the score. Any ornaments you find in your edition are probably derived from his students.
gr0mithtimon 2 years ago 6
1. Those trills sound better on harpsichord than on a piano.
2. A piano can sustain a note longer, so even though a harpsichord would need that trill to sustain the note for 3 measures, it's audible on the piano for 3 measures at that speed.
And as long as it doesn't take away people's willingness to listen to him, it's ultimately up to the performer to decide what should be played and how it should be played.
ThunderbirdEnema 2 years ago 4
he's just chuck norris at the piano, he does what he wants
fagottist 2 years ago 5
I also noticed it. But it still sounds great :)
frankyfunny 2 years ago
@evilunderthesun91
I was wondering the same thing, but I kind of like it without it.
Jmorgan721 1 year ago
trills not appear in the original edition, the trills are just ornaments to beautify, not are essential for the structure of the piece
Heyder1391 1 year ago
@evilunderthesun91
How DARE you question Glenn Gould's performance!! Actually, yes, I was wondering the same thing.
gutadolf 1 year ago
@gutadolf LOL
evilunderthesun91 1 year ago
@evilunderthesun91 he omitted the first trill in the right hand =P
bumromance 1 year ago
@evilunderthesun91 Well, the firsti trill is short, but the second is very long.
DZAUDZI69 1 year ago
@evilunderthesun91 Yes, and the 2nd does not sound quite right
pierolivier111 1 year ago
@evilunderthesun91 he changes things constantly in everything he played, It was his idea of composing, or giving new life to the pieces bach and other composers wrote.
TheSingingCello 1 year ago
@evilunderthesun91
The purpose of the trill was to provide a sort of sostenuto effect, which otherwise couldn't be easily managed on a harpsichord (or other instruments of Bach's time). Since Gould is using a piano, he doesn't need to use the trill, as the piano sustains the note just by holding down the key (so the strings remain undamped). It's interesting that he plays the second (left-hard) trill, though. I always find that one the more difficult!
amylNRG 10 months ago
@amylNRG Considero que esa es una explicación bastante honesta y amable con respecto al trino. Lo triste es que en la perfecta ejecución solo se haya preocupado por un adorno. Bueno...gracias a ti por la muy aceptable aclaración. He esuchado muchas versiones pero no logro comprender la manera en que Gould aún a esa velocidad lo hace sonar tan perfecto...
erandi1680 10 months ago
@evilunderthesun91 This is just my opinion.. but a lot of things that GG did, he did them just out of whim.
fernandofariajunior 9 months ago
@evilunderthesun91 - when you're as good as Gould, you can do whatever you want with the song.
No I'm just kidding lol, but yeah...it's not there for some reason. haha.
goodcommentguy 7 months ago
@evilunderthesun91 He sang it.
pianoulpiano 6 months ago 2
@evilunderthesun91 Personally I was delighted to see that trill consigned to oblivion. This lovely piece to my mind is ruined on the piano by those two trills. On the harpischord that trill is less obtrusive. And Baroque music by and large permitted great latitude in choosing the ornaments .... a perfomer might omit or even add his own as he felt appropriate. More disturbing are bars 11 and 13 ... played as triplets. And virtually everyone does this. No triplets in the score anywhere.
nikkitytom 5 months ago
Whenever I listen to Bach I always imagine my favorite quote from him: "The aim and final end of all music should be none other than the glory of God and the refreshment of the soul." Therefore I think at the end of each piece he played, I see him saying "Behold!" either from the technical difficulty or emotional expression.
Now, pieces such as airs and sarabandes should be played with much emotion, but inventions are made to show off skill, specifically. Which is why I like Goulds performance.
C33Four 2 years ago 5
you are wrong, inventions are made to practice. for show off = toccata
Stehnz 2 years ago 3
bravo!
Kraviotho 2 years ago 3
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chilldave73 2 years ago
Very, very fast. The faster and faster the inventions are played, the more and more schizophrenic they appear. This effect is magnified my this minor and particularly frenetic invention and by Gould's intense dynamic coloring. Ouch, ouch, ouch. O, how I like it though.
MrMucas 2 years ago 4
A bit like the inventio 13 in A minor, hectic !
aurelienpk 2 years ago
so fast, so precisely, so good, oh bach, I love u.
bobtang1 2 years ago 7
pasado de yo... jeje
naitsirclemat 2 years ago
stfu seansotheman
trying to win an argument by mocking someone because of his minor language mistakes is weak
needforweed2 2 years ago
Thanks needforweed2, that's the reason why I started to talk about him and not more about the video.
perzichello 2 years ago
That's the best you can come up with? You're fat? You need to post some videos of yourself playing videos. You can't even play piano. we=me? you're an idiot. hehehe
Ever hear the Greek saying: The Italian will kill his father for money. hahahaha
seansotheman 2 years ago
I had never seen a whale playing piano, you're the first, bigfattheman ahauhau. It's funny to see how you shake the sausages you have instead of fingers ahahahah never laughed so much ahaha
perzichello 2 years ago
huh? You're an Italian, making fun of fat people?! hahaha, your whole country is full of fat, fascist, pasta-eating Super Marios, hehehe.
seansotheman 2 years ago
You are disgusting. seansotheman knows how to play piano and you don't. Going to youtube forums and writing insults doesn't mean you know anything. It means you don't know anything. Go to hell.
MsPapertiger 2 years ago
It's true... he doesn't respect the original score. He adds some ornaments, and remove some others. There was a tremolo at 0:15 that has been removed, just like the trills at 0:30 and 0:42. In the end, that is from 0:43 to 0:45 he adds some notes that in the original score don't exist.
perzichello 2 years ago
In my opinion, adding or ignoring ornaments is one thing, not respecting the score is a very different one. Ornaments are embellishments, and the performer can invent, change or ignore them to suit his own taste or just to play the piece differently every time. The most important things in music are those which are not in the score.
tocalpianix 2 years ago 2
Where can I find this "original score"? Unless you're reading off of the nearly illegible photocopy of the original score, there is no original score. Also, ornaments are subjective and interpretive.
seansotheman 2 years ago
Oh good, so everyone can play Bach as he likes... right?
The on sale scores are the result of a philological and scientific work of many and many important scholars and musicians. Do you think their work isn't the most accurate? do you think to be better? Play as you like, but don't come and say that everything is relative because it is not.
perzichello 2 years ago
Science? hehe, ok here's your sceientific experiment today. Look at the youtube user, "Bachscholar"'s interpretation of the piece compared to Gould's. They're both musicians/scholars. Why are their interpretations different, when, by your rational, all should be the same. You're all hyperbole, hehe.
seansotheman 2 years ago
Ahaha funny... you would me to comparate Gould with a youtube pianist.
I didn't say that the way Gould play Bach is bad. I think his one is the best interpretation ever. I simply said that probably it's not the way Bach intended to play that sheet. Also Michelangeli probably played the Galuppi sonatine better than Galuppi himself. But we're talking about scores, not about interpretation. This interpretation of Bach is, without any doubts, one of the best.
perzichello 2 years ago
Your english is poor. "you would me to comparate"...?; "the way Gould play Bach is bad"...?
Your interpretation of the english language is equally poor. 'You' never said Gould was bad, 'I' never said Gould was bad, 'NOBODY' said Gould was bad. What are you talking about?
You say he's wrong on the tremolos and trills, when those are the very points that are open to interpretation in the score itself.
'you would me to comparate'... hahaha, now 'that's' funny!
seansotheman 2 years ago
Sorry, but I'm Italian, not English. We can speak italian, if you can.
I never said that Gould is wrong, I said he doesn't respect the commonly accepted score. I never said he plays it bad. His way is simply different from what is commonly supposed to be written by Bach. It's unusual, not wrong.
perzichello 2 years ago
hahaha, you call yourself "we"? "we" is plural, it means more than one. Are you more than one person. This is the english service version of youtube. Don't the Italian's have youtube in their country? This is an English forum, hehe
you never said Gould was wrong, I never said Gould was wrong. You never said he plays it bad. I never said he plays it bad. You're making things up for the sake of argument, hahahaha!
seansotheman 2 years ago
I said: "We can speak Italian (each other), if you can (speak italian)"... We = Me and you... What's wrong? Are you kidding me? I think there's nothing to laugh. My english isn't perfect, I know, but I usually have dealings with people intelligent enough to understand.
perzichello 2 years ago
we=me? You have a long way to go, hahahaha!
seansotheman 2 years ago
Oh My GOD... WE = "ME AND YOU"... are you able to read?
It's incredible... XD
perzichello 2 years ago
Watch your fat... I think it's going to your head ahaahah
perzichello 2 years ago
BachScholar actually studied Bach to understand the tempos Bach intended for these to play at. Gould simply played his own interpretation. One is not better than the other, though I prefer Gould because he uses feeling rather than studies
itstristanyo 2 years ago 6
Well, I can tell you for sure exactly if this is correct or not, what you people say. However, I won't be able to play this for a day or so, because I'm a busy bee lately.
username1p 2 years ago
I will exam this piece thouroughly and get back to you in 24 hours, with the slur argument. I will settle this once and for all.
username1p 2 years ago
this guy is very unconventional... he doesn't observe the slurs for anything!
iridethewave 2 years ago 2
What are talking about, you criticizing Gould, ha! Your funny. D:)
username1p 2 years ago
a lot of ppl say he is awesome, and he really is, but his comment up here was not wrong. He didn't execute some slurs that are written in the score.
DaGuittarMan 2 years ago
username! I'm not criticizing Gould at all! I'm just stating that he is unconventional, and that can be good or bad. In this case, I think he actually accentuates the piece with his own flair.... I didn't mean to sound as if I was criticizing gould... haha
iridethewave 2 years ago
mmmm theres a first thrino he doesnt play thats weird
maybe another edition
sekayujora 2 years ago
Try with more volume... I think i hear the trill... it's very very quiet, but as if it was there... "
tuberman91kills 2 years ago
Oh man, he's terrific.
helenagothicangel13 2 years ago
two letters : GG ^^
Rapoutch 2 years ago
Incredible...that sound is impossible for the human race :) ...i tried for ages lol
thelonious76 2 years ago 2
very Staccato.
username1p 2 years ago 4
Why didn't he play the trill at 0:15?
44Bigs 2 years ago 2
maybe he likes it better that way
ronaldo4ever95 2 years ago 2
He is amazing !!! <3
GlennGo0uld 2 years ago
wow......fantastic
dlatpgml 2 years ago
wow.....
jusjoshinaroun 3 years ago
It is just wonderful.
yikou 3 years ago
ohgott is das geil gespielt o____OOO
Franci110 3 years ago 3
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Too slow.
4isawesome 3 years ago
Glenn Gould, le pape du monde classique, le représentant de Bach sur terre (malgré sa disparition :( ).
decloc 3 years ago
Amazing O_____o'
LightandLight 3 years ago
It's Invention 4 in D Minor.
LazyBastard69 3 years ago
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this is not invention 4, it is invention #13
notbluenotbrown 3 years ago
it is invention #4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jastermereel18 3 years ago 26
ya, this is not invention 13. its bach's two part invention 4.
are you supposed to play this fast?!?!?!?!?! I'll have to practice A LOT! :)
monkeyelow102 3 years ago
VERY fast!
all of bach's inventions are studies, so they're supposed to be flighty and flawless :P
helenagothicangel13 3 years ago
While composer's like Czerny and Cramer wrote finger dexterity studies Bach wrote harmony studies. No famous composer after Bach was able to compose harmonies without studying Bach first.
templedread 3 years ago 3
LOL @ Notbluenotbrown
13 and 4 are both my favorite inventions, and this is most definitely #4
LegitCritic 3 years ago 2
You're definitely right! :) I think I had two videos playing in two different windows at the same time. My bad :) Sorry it took so long to respond, but I've not logged on for a while. Cheers.
notbluenotbrown 2 years ago
mine too :DD
GlennGo0uld 2 years ago