And some wisdom words like "Good is a point of view" or "All who gain power are afraid to lose it". Sidious was in a evil secret society and also into the occult when says the Sith are into things some consider unnatural where the Jedi just says death is a part of life.
And throughout SW, it was all about fear. Fear of separatists, stormtroopers, fear of technological terror like the Death Star.
The regional governors were dissolved. Like FEMA regions, Super Congress..
You forgot that Sidious also staged false flags, controlled the opposition, used problem-reaction-solution to exploited invented crises and was part of a secret society (Sith). The Naboo blockade, the attack on Coruscant, Dooku, Grievous, Trade Federation, and the Separatist threat of war.
And that once he had all the powers, the true patriots and defenders of the republic (Jedi) were crushed by the army.
It took a galactic war to create his new order, just like the League of Nations and UN
No offense, but to say that in making the Star Wars saga, Lucas (like every other film maker in history) consciously or subconsciously made ties with the real world isn't exactly groundbreaking. For instance, making parralels with the Third Reich made it easier to understand just how evil the Galactic Empire was. There is no better way to do things like that than to incorporate elements of reality.
@TJ347 he never said it was groundbreaking he just documented it in detail. I know caesar won the civil war but I still watch documentaries and read books about it
@Bugenhagenification I never said he said it was groundbreaking. I was just making the point that incorporating elements of history as the masses know it helped to make it clear to all and sundry how evil the Empire was in just the first film in the original trilogy. With a series of books, it's easier to go into all of that, but Lucas had to convey that in the limited time span allowed by a film. Job done.
America was never going to be a Republic.All nations played their part and Americas part was to be groomed as the military might of the Galactic Empire...or New World Order if you will.The only difference is that people in other nations are more aware of it and have tried to fight tyranny.But 80% of the United States population have been sipping the govt/media Kool-Aid and bought "The American Dream" for far too long.Now people are starting to take notice,but I think it's a little too late.
You bring up some interesting points. There was a week-long series on the history channel dedicated to searching for historical parallels in Star Wars, and as anchorman pointed out, Lucas made no attempt to hide the fact that the saga contained such parallels.
@Princepsmaximus: Julius Caesar won the hearts of the people with a military and defeated the former emperor that exiled him, he fought for the people by making just laws, he was assassinated by the senate before he could finish.
"Caesar´s grand son was scared of the senators and did what they said"...
Then you don´t know much about ancient and especially augustan history. Octavian/Augustus was much more cruel to the senate than Caesar. He was responsible for the death of about 120 senators and many of his opponents were excluded from the senate. Okay, he knew Caesar´s bad ending and so - after he haid gained power - he tried to win the senate for his system.
But the senate was to weak to say what has to happen, the true leadership had gone to the "princeps". Rather the senate had to do what Augustus wanted than Augustus had to do what the senate wanted. The senate maybe was responsible for the downfall of the republic, but not the downfall of the empire. That´s much more complicated. The role of the senate became smaller and smaller during the history of the empire. At the end it was nothing more than a city parliament.
Once more: The ending should not show ideological parallels, it should just show the similiarity of the endings of "Star Wars Episode IV" and "Triumph of the Will".
@IbanezRG7321 the nazi celebration was compared with the rebel celebration.Of course everyone who has watched starwars will know that the rebels were not like hitler in any way
How do you place the rebles with the nazi? the rebles were fighting for freedom from fascism. Nazis simply brought fascism closer to home.
btw to this American the galactic republic looks a lot like the Roman Republic, but we are hanging by a thread. "They who give up liberty to obtain safety derserve neither." Benjamin Franklin
I will simply say, those who give up freedoms and rights for safety will live in danger.
Lucas knew history: check what's in "Star Wars" - the rise of: Julius Caesar, Napoleon, Hitler, Mao Tse-Tung, Huey Long, even George Wallace [and many others]..plus a bit of a rip-off of Tolkien of course with a parallel to Saruman...
Same "play book"!! You'd think we'd have learned by now......
Check out the "Leni Riefenstal Berlin 1936 Olympics" refs in both Saruman's Uruk-Hai rally in "Return of the King", and the "Awards ceremony and the end of the original "Star Wars"..LOTSA 'quotes' of history and other things in these films [Like Avatar]..If you KNOW your history, then you know that Palpatine's depicted rise is also very similar to Hitler's, Mao Tse-Tung's, Huey Long's, even George Wallace's, and Robert Moses' ..you name it, same "play book"..you'd think people would know by now
Check out the "Leni Riefenstal Berlin 1936 Olympics" refs in both Saruman's Uruk-Hai rally in "Return of the King", and the "Awards ceremony and the end of the original "Star Wars"..LOTSA 'quotes' of history and other things in these films [Like Avatar]..If you KNOW your history, then you know that Palpatine's depicted rise is also very similar to Hitler's, Mao Tse-Tung's, Huey Long's, even George Wallace's, and Robert Moses' ...you name it, same "play book"..you'd think people would know by now
@shrimpmummy -- I know, I KNOW...THE TWO TOWERS!! sorry, I was a bit rushed...anyway, let's not leave out Josef Stalin, the Tammany Hall Ring, Sloban Milosivec [or however his name is spelled] and SCAR from "THE LION KING" which is from "HAMLET" which is also from history....Whew...these guys all took "HOW TO SEIZE POWER BY BEFRIENDING 'THE PEOPLE' AND TURN INTO A TYRANT AND GET RID OF ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HELPED YOU 101" in school......
I've never really seen a comparison to the Soviet Union and Star Wars since the Empire was created by a politician taking advantage of a civil war while the USSR was created by the overthrow of an already autocratic government. Rome, Napoleon, and Hitler are better examples.
palpatine=hitler beacause of his autoproclamation as cancellor in an emergency case after the terrorist attack on the reichstag that he himself organised, like palpatine with his support to his ennemies in both case they were senator before. and his fabrication of the ennemies, as historic revenge the jedi=jew or communist or liberals but specially the christian church. i could continu during hours, the third reich is the biggest inspiration for the galactic empire,
sith= nazi by their philosophy, and the philosophy of the shintoism who can be associate both to jedi and sith, beacause of the lightsaber=shintoism dark vador armor who look like a samurai armor or third reich cask. the color of the third reich=black white red and gray, and galactic empire too
The Trade Federation was based on the East India Trading Company. They were major traders with a navy and army, and even colonized areas of the world (Blockade and Occupation of Naboo). They had a representative in the British Parliament, just like the Trade Federation.
Strictly organized marching and military parades are nearly as old as humanity itself. Every single army does that on Earth. For the SW designers, it was the only way to visualize a strong army. to say on that the galactic empire is like the soviet union or the third reich or the roman empire is just stupid.
In Germany today you will never see such giant parades. And in the USA - i propose - it is the same. It has something to do with the fact which value we give military. In western society military is mostly in the background - especially in Europe - in Soviet Union and socialist countries uniforms and soldiers were omnipresent.
@Princepsmaximus Ever see a tea party rally with all the different homemade signs in contrast to an Obama rally with everyone holding the same uniform,pre-made sign, makes for good propaganda. Did you know the Nazi's learned the effective use of propaganda and control of the media, from the American Progressive party. Obama being a progressive himself, sure does put on a good rally.
@Princepsmaximus That's right. In the UK, we have the odd parade from soldiers coming back from the war, and the guards at the palace playing funny music, but the scale on which the Romans, Nazis, and Soviets did it were to serve the nationalistic purpose: that the army is strong and powerful. That you should be proud of your country's soldiers, AND afraid of them! And like you said, in modern Germany, they've taken such big measures to disassociate the country from Nazism.
Funny thoughts.^^ I propose that everyone today would and will set roles as it is serves his intentions. Of course so everyone thinks himself to be a Jedi and his opponents to be the Empire. An American maybe would say El-Kaida or China are the Empire, others would say the NWO is the Empire.
@Princepsmaximus yea, this is exactly what I want to say. Star Wars is not, just simple story about sciencefiction hero's. This story contain sth more.
@Mietus27 Actually, the US probably represents the Republic more, which I do agree that the Catholic Church does have it's moments that is shared with the Jedi, but then I think it's the same with any established religion. Oh, and the Democrats seem to use deception, bribery, and intimidation, as shown with the recent Health Care reform bill, which seems more in line with the Sith.
Quite right. Just what i said it, it´s all a question of your point of view. That´s the same with for example "300": Americans could say they are the Spartans and the terrorists the Persians, the Muslims could say that they are the Spartans who defend their homeland against the decadent imperialists represented by the Persians as the Americans.
@Princepsmaximus Wait, what? That makes absolutely no sense. Last I checked, the Muslim terrorists attacked us first. Twin towers, 9/11, September attacks, ring any bells?
@Princepsmaximus accept The US has traditionally been liberty or less government. It is only recently that the socialists have taken over America under obama bin ladin!
@Mietus27 You have to be kidding me if you believe Democrats to be the Jedi Order. Your right about Sith being Communists, Democrats are the Senate that have been used and twisted by the Sith (Progressives) to more towards a Totalitarian Communist state, only thing that's fighting against them is Rebels-Republicans being led by the Jedi Order - the Tea Party movement, moving away from Big government control and oppression towards Liberty, as given to us by our founding fathers.
Excellent video. i noticed all these little facts in the movies, and this video just put it all together. Thank you very much. Once again, excellent vid.
Too bad you didn't bring up the connectons between the American civil war and the galactic civil war! And the beginning with the trade federation could also be compared to Japan in the league of nations in the 30's!
totally get your point I've always noticed a stark resemblance between the prequels and the Roman Republic turned Empire
but not just that Anakin is kind of a Pompey character doing the bidding of others in the hopes of bringing his good intentions to bear and in both cases it just corrupts them so that they cant stand themself and what they've done
in Pompey's case he wanted the reward due to his men and had to join with Crassus and Caesar to get it and well Ani just wanted to save his wife
I really enjoyed this. That musta been a lota work. But are you also saying that Luke Skywalker and the rebels also resemble Hitler , the Nazis and the Socalist Oder? Because they had a celebratory celemony?
These are not the only parallels. You could also see - especially in episode III - parallels to the situation of the United States nowadays. Palpatine = US President, Senate = UNO, Separatists = Terrorists, Empire = New World Order?
Empire can be interpreted as New World Order? Oookay. What does the USA understand as New World Order? Is there a comparison between China and the Empire?^^ The Separatists are Islamic Terrorists - or newly European Terrorists. My God, these are Lucas films! Especially stup...notably is the comparison between the conferring scene and a Nazi event. Sorry, only Amis can be so blue-eyed and don't understand their own movies.^^
I think i remember that Lucas himself said he was inspired by "Triumph of the Will" in that scene. Furthermore Natalie Portman 2005 in an interview remarked Episode III is very political and with connections to reality in our (!) time. For example Hitler never pretended to fight for republic and democracy, but Palpatine did. He was within the system of the democracy while Hitler was oppositional. So Palpatine could have been much more like Bush - or today - Obama.
Antagonist Palpantine didn't fight for the old republik and democracy. He's a fascistic autocrat and not interessted in democratic structures. He wants to design the galaxy to his own ideas. That's often mentioned in the movies and in the idiotic "Extended Universe". His empire has no moral concepts for alien peoples. The empirials wished they could destroy them all. So Palpantine has nothing to with a marionette like Bush. That doesn't work.
Everyone knows Bush is a loser and that he has failed politically. But in 2005 some people may have thought he himself would have autocratic aims. It is right what you say but that has not to do with what i said. The senate and the jedis don´t know Palpatine hates the republic because he always ensured he would defend republic and democracy. So he could come to power. He was within the system although he didn´t like it. That was his private opinion he hided from the galaxy.
And isn´t it possible that a president like Obama personally favours a dictatorship, an autocratic system? We don´t know it as the jedis didn´t know how Palpatine thought. There are indications: "Patriot Act", censorship, health care reforms, etc. Maybe an oligarchy prepares the installation of a dictatorship, maybe they will accumulate power until they are powerful enough to show their real face.
What is so anti-demorcatic to giving health coverage to those who need it? That's ULTRA democratic! And don't give me all that anti-vaccine conspiracy BS, I've had it.
when he wrote all 6 films, 30+ years ago, he was basing it on the situation in vietnam. That is all. Other paralells are purely because vietnam parallels other events in history.
I know that Lucas often tells the story about having the idea for all 6 films inside his head over 30 years ago...My God, you have seen the new trilogie. That's a 30 years later written story for the today's mobile phone generation. He had no ideas for the prehistory when he started the procduction of the first movie in 1977. He's only a unconvincible big head.
I think it's very well put together, and clearly exhibits thought and merit, however I find the analogy comparing Hitler addressing Germany to an award ceremony in which rebels are being awarded for their heroism against the tyrannical empire a little farfetched. I am speaking in archetypes mind you, not actually concerned whether or not it's luke we're talking about.
Shouldn't the but what's that remark at the end be a British Flag and spitfires and all conquering Anglo-saxon peoples against the Germanic tribes and evil of this world? no one takes into account that Britain is always there sorting out the worlds problems ? strange that :D
george lucas himself states that star wars was based on the "US empire".
the blindness to fight vietnam despite the fact that the "communist" were really fighting against the "imperialist" of france. what what got him to write about it.
history is doom to repeated for those who do not study it. needless to say, by the slacker: bush jr.
@lagrangewei uh no he diddn't. If you listen to his commentary for episode 4 he clearly states he based the empire off of rome. That and the US is a republic not an empire.
I have made many connections to the Empire being based of of Nazi Germany, Palpatine being Hitler obviously, but some of the events to: such as, Order 66 (at least for me) makes a connection to "The night of the long knives" in which the SS killed almost all of the SA leaders (which in Starwars would be Jedi). As well as the fact the Palpaitine, like Hitler was betreyed by his highest officers (Vader in Starwars). When I was younger I never noticed these connections, now its very interesting.
The ending is ridiculous -a parallel to Hitler would be Darth Vader, not Skywalker and Solo. But the comparison of the Republic Senate to the UN is spot on, both seem powerless and ultimtely useless.
Hitler is not compared to Skywalker, only the sequences are compared to each other. It is evident that Lucas has been inspired by the final scene of "triumph of the will". The similiarity is clear.
Also may I add that the Soviets were a threat to America and her allies because it wished for a communistic world and to do so tortured and kill millions upon millions of innocent civilians because they didn't agree with the Soviet Dictatorship of the Proletariat. And, communism would see the end of all major things the US fought for, including freedoms, democratic elections, and free trade. Sure us Americans don't like communists, but its not just because what the government is telling us.
"The well-ordered masses of soldiers remind of chinese, north-corean or third-reich military parades"...
"Indeed the empire seems to be a mixture of Roman Empire, Third Reich and Soviet Union"...
1) Nazis and Communist are the exact opposites. One cannot make a comparision between those fractions.
2) All this anti-communism from America pisses me off! Are most americans really THAT stupid to believe everything they are told from their conservative government?
That might be true when spoken of China or USSR, but a real communistic country (which was not founded yet) wouldn't be a dictatorship or a totalitaristic regime.
communism is the eradication of all property in which there is no country, and the thing is that once people have power they tend to be shy of getting rid of it. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. I know Communism itself is not totalitarian, but the marxist way to achieve it is very much so. Marx believed through the "re-educating" of the people you achieve a classless society with no property but you can not re-teach people that there are no classes. You can not change common sense.
No communism is stupid and killed milions of people long passing National Socialism and Fascism isnt just thing that goverment tells them in fact most of americans arent anti communists they simply dont care about politics
while I agree with you in seeing how communism as it existed under Stalinism, even Lenin, and in Red China, resulted in catastrophic things, I wouldn't say communism is stupid. Sure it's idealogically different than a free-market driven democracy, and sure it's not, or at least has never proven to be functional, but I don't think there's anything inherently stupid in it. (just want to say I disagree with communism, to clarify)
I am like so , glad to have come across your site, this is so real . I have never been a political person, but i am now spirtually intuned to the political world and all that is going on world wide has too much in common with star wars, I dont think people realize Lucas as the Prophet he is,right now there is a satelite in space tht Bill Gates and othes are paying billions for to look into space to see other planets AND FATHER INTO OTHER DIMENSIONS, Now what dose that tell you.
alright, well I just wanted to point out that it seemed like you were comparing Jedi to Nazis.
Of course, the do Jedi have issues of hypocrisy; Mace Windu attempted to kill palpatine without trial, and Obi Wan himself deals in absolutes, despite criticizing Anakin for doing so.
Star Wars is just the story of WWII set in a galaxy far, far away. Very unimaginative, to say the least. Hitler and the Nazis are much more impressive and scary than the cartoonish Darth Vader and the storm troopers in their silly white bunny suits.
haha KarldGr! ich kannte das zwar schon, aber trotzdem gute arbeit. wie es schein ist es den meisten hier ja noch nicht bekannt. besonders das wookiegrunzen als hitler redet war super :D. nuja, machet jut!
ist doch klar dass das alles ähnlich ist, das deutsch-national-sozialistische und russisch-sozialistische waren die ersten beiden bei denen so gute propaganda-aufzeichnungen gemacht wurden, diese hatten beide das römische reich als vorbild, zumindest propagandistisch gesehen, dieses war mit den griechischen "stadtreichen" unter den ersten propagandistischen "stadtstaaten"/-reichen, ist ja klar dass wenn man einen Film macht sich daran orientiert, nicht nur star wars sonder auch "doom" ;)
Ich glaube nicht, dass du im Mittelalter oder in der Frühen Neuzeit ähnliche Bilder hättest machen können, selbst wenn es Fernsehen gegeben hätte. Liegt einfach an der Wiederentdeckung des antiken Egalitarismus.
Könnte gut hinkommen,..ich glaube dass sich dieser "Paradismus" aus jeder gewonnenen Schlacht für jedes Volk, jede Kultur entwickelte, wenn du dir bspw die mongolischen Horden anschaust welche vom Khan und Oberschamanen geweiht wurden vor und nach Schlachten, eventuell auch irgendwo vergleichbar, ich glaube dass allerdings "architektonisch" gesehen so etwas bei den Römern und dann erst wieder bei Sozialisten und Nationalsozialisten auftrat :) Gruß
Wobei ich glaube, dass das bei den ostasiatischen Völkern nochmal etwas spezielles ist. Diese Aufmärsche wie in Pjöngjang sind irgendwie anders als im Dritten Reich.
Whats this new country in the video @ 2:11? North Corea? When was this discovered?
Beatties6942 2 months ago
And some wisdom words like "Good is a point of view" or "All who gain power are afraid to lose it". Sidious was in a evil secret society and also into the occult when says the Sith are into things some consider unnatural where the Jedi just says death is a part of life.
And throughout SW, it was all about fear. Fear of separatists, stormtroopers, fear of technological terror like the Death Star.
The regional governors were dissolved. Like FEMA regions, Super Congress..
Art imitates life.
FortitudeOfHeaven 2 months ago
You forgot that Sidious also staged false flags, controlled the opposition, used problem-reaction-solution to exploited invented crises and was part of a secret society (Sith). The Naboo blockade, the attack on Coruscant, Dooku, Grievous, Trade Federation, and the Separatist threat of war.
And that once he had all the powers, the true patriots and defenders of the republic (Jedi) were crushed by the army.
It took a galactic war to create his new order, just like the League of Nations and UN
FortitudeOfHeaven 2 months ago
Have fun tackling the Yuzhang Vong with a a galaxy in civil war, with no mass fleets and committed leadership...
Scientisticsoviet 2 months ago
LOOK AT THE USA NOW. DO YOU NOT SEE WHAT HAS HAPPENED?!?!?!
RIVR2319 3 months ago 2
I hate rebels i love the empire
TheMatthew5678 3 months ago
No offense, but to say that in making the Star Wars saga, Lucas (like every other film maker in history) consciously or subconsciously made ties with the real world isn't exactly groundbreaking. For instance, making parralels with the Third Reich made it easier to understand just how evil the Galactic Empire was. There is no better way to do things like that than to incorporate elements of reality.
TJ347 6 months ago
@TJ347 he never said it was groundbreaking he just documented it in detail. I know caesar won the civil war but I still watch documentaries and read books about it
Bugenhagenification 3 months ago
@Bugenhagenification I never said he said it was groundbreaking. I was just making the point that incorporating elements of history as the masses know it helped to make it clear to all and sundry how evil the Empire was in just the first film in the original trilogy. With a series of books, it's easier to go into all of that, but Lucas had to convey that in the limited time span allowed by a film. Job done.
TJ347 3 months ago
i noticed all these before watching this, and planned to make a video about it myself....but DOH! this guy beat me to it :(
KaminoProductions 6 months ago
Why can't I play this vid on my iPhone but don't have problems playing other vids on the same device?
nicollaney 7 months ago
America was never going to be a Republic.All nations played their part and Americas part was to be groomed as the military might of the Galactic Empire...or New World Order if you will.The only difference is that people in other nations are more aware of it and have tried to fight tyranny.But 80% of the United States population have been sipping the govt/media Kool-Aid and bought "The American Dream" for far too long.Now people are starting to take notice,but I think it's a little too late.
kenchun24 8 months ago
How about the "American Empire"? How many times do we have to listen to the whole "safety and security" bit from the news?
PeoplesGeneral 9 months ago
You bring up some interesting points. There was a week-long series on the history channel dedicated to searching for historical parallels in Star Wars, and as anchorman pointed out, Lucas made no attempt to hide the fact that the saga contained such parallels.
braccheus1 10 months ago
ummm Lucas has pretty much stated that alot of the movie is based on history and politics, no suprises
anchorman87 11 months ago
Hearing the imperial March matched with footage from the Triumph of the Will seems so appropriate lol. Excellent video. The parallels are striking.
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@Princepsmaximus: Julius Caesar won the hearts of the people with a military and defeated the former emperor that exiled him, he fought for the people by making just laws, he was assassinated by the senate before he could finish.
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"Caesar´s grand son was scared of the senators and did what they said"...
Then you don´t know much about ancient and especially augustan history. Octavian/Augustus was much more cruel to the senate than Caesar. He was responsible for the death of about 120 senators and many of his opponents were excluded from the senate. Okay, he knew Caesar´s bad ending and so - after he haid gained power - he tried to win the senate for his system.
Princepsmaximus 1 year ago
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But the senate was to weak to say what has to happen, the true leadership had gone to the "princeps". Rather the senate had to do what Augustus wanted than Augustus had to do what the senate wanted. The senate maybe was responsible for the downfall of the republic, but not the downfall of the empire. That´s much more complicated. The role of the senate became smaller and smaller during the history of the empire. At the end it was nothing more than a city parliament.
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ZetOpal 1 year ago
Well, money controls a lot of politics. It's the best way to manipulate any government body.
So, it becomes especially chilling when the Chancellor declares himself Emperor and the Senate cheers him on.
umbrella0326 1 year ago
wtf with the end. The rebels were nothing like Hitler's regime.
IbanezRG7321 1 year ago 7
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Once more: The ending should not show ideological parallels, it should just show the similiarity of the endings of "Star Wars Episode IV" and "Triumph of the Will".
Princepsmaximus 1 year ago 4
@Princepsmaximus I know, I just found it unfitting to have the heroic music synced with Hitler :P
IbanezRG7321 1 year ago
@IbanezRG7321 unfourtunatly George Lucas thought the flm artist Leni Refensthal poltics should not be held against her great film making
LeighMet 1 year ago
@IbanezRG7321 Sadly, as is always the case in politics and war, it's all a matter of perspective.
iankable 7 months ago
@IbanezRG7321 Endor Holocaust Deiner
360Nomad 6 months ago
@IbanezRG7321 the nazi celebration was compared with the rebel celebration.Of course everyone who has watched starwars will know that the rebels were not like hitler in any way
IsengardMordor 4 months ago
Senator Palpatine attacks his very own city of Naboo=America attacks its very own city of New York
Phony "Clone Wars" to gain power=Phony "War on Terror" to gain power
2012isnear 1 year ago
How do you place the rebles with the nazi? the rebles were fighting for freedom from fascism. Nazis simply brought fascism closer to home.
btw to this American the galactic republic looks a lot like the Roman Republic, but we are hanging by a thread. "They who give up liberty to obtain safety derserve neither." Benjamin Franklin
I will simply say, those who give up freedoms and rights for safety will live in danger.
TravistheHuman 1 year ago
Lucas knew history: check what's in "Star Wars" - the rise of: Julius Caesar, Napoleon, Hitler, Mao Tse-Tung, Huey Long, even George Wallace [and many others]..plus a bit of a rip-off of Tolkien of course with a parallel to Saruman...
Same "play book"!! You'd think we'd have learned by now......
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Check out the "Leni Riefenstal Berlin 1936 Olympics" refs in both Saruman's Uruk-Hai rally in "Return of the King", and the "Awards ceremony and the end of the original "Star Wars"..LOTSA 'quotes' of history and other things in these films [Like Avatar]..If you KNOW your history, then you know that Palpatine's depicted rise is also very similar to Hitler's, Mao Tse-Tung's, Huey Long's, even George Wallace's, and Robert Moses' ..you name it, same "play book"..you'd think people would know by now
shrimpmummy 1 year ago
Check out the "Leni Riefenstal Berlin 1936 Olympics" refs in both Saruman's Uruk-Hai rally in "Return of the King", and the "Awards ceremony and the end of the original "Star Wars"..LOTSA 'quotes' of history and other things in these films [Like Avatar]..If you KNOW your history, then you know that Palpatine's depicted rise is also very similar to Hitler's, Mao Tse-Tung's, Huey Long's, even George Wallace's, and Robert Moses' ...you name it, same "play book"..you'd think people would know by now
shrimpmummy 1 year ago
@shrimpmummy -- I know, I KNOW...THE TWO TOWERS!! sorry, I was a bit rushed...anyway, let's not leave out Josef Stalin, the Tammany Hall Ring, Sloban Milosivec [or however his name is spelled] and SCAR from "THE LION KING" which is from "HAMLET" which is also from history....Whew...these guys all took "HOW TO SEIZE POWER BY BEFRIENDING 'THE PEOPLE' AND TURN INTO A TYRANT AND GET RID OF ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HELPED YOU 101" in school......
shrimpmummy 1 year ago
Obama is like Palpatine, I think to shudder to think that this could be possible, if we don't vote out Obama's supporters in November!
Gregourii 1 year ago
u spelt korean wrong
stevonz333 1 year ago
Palpatine's speech = David Cameron outside No 10
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TheFifthColumn1 1 year ago
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TheFifthColumn1 1 year ago
I've never really seen a comparison to the Soviet Union and Star Wars since the Empire was created by a politician taking advantage of a civil war while the USSR was created by the overthrow of an already autocratic government. Rome, Napoleon, and Hitler are better examples.
FreiherrvonTersch 1 year ago
palpatine=hitler beacause of his autoproclamation as cancellor in an emergency case after the terrorist attack on the reichstag that he himself organised, like palpatine with his support to his ennemies in both case they were senator before. and his fabrication of the ennemies, as historic revenge the jedi=jew or communist or liberals but specially the christian church. i could continu during hours, the third reich is the biggest inspiration for the galactic empire,
GJGJ654 1 year ago
sith= nazi by their philosophy, and the philosophy of the shintoism who can be associate both to jedi and sith, beacause of the lightsaber=shintoism dark vador armor who look like a samurai armor or third reich cask. the color of the third reich=black white red and gray, and galactic empire too
GJGJ654 1 year ago
You Rebel Scum!! Grrrr!!!
alvisc2002 1 year ago
awesome, but you slipped up! You should have left in the part with Amidala going : So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause. =]
kardentyrell 1 year ago
You guys, don't forget the Trade Federation.
The Trade Federation was based on the East India Trading Company. They were major traders with a navy and army, and even colonized areas of the world (Blockade and Occupation of Naboo). They had a representative in the British Parliament, just like the Trade Federation.
hotelhi 1 year ago
@JDogDrums Are you bored or something that was about a month ago, who gives a shit?
Well apperently you do.
And don't dude me, I'm not a stoner anymore... not sense....
CountMandarin 1 year ago
Strictly organized marching and military parades are nearly as old as humanity itself. Every single army does that on Earth. For the SW designers, it was the only way to visualize a strong army. to say on that the galactic empire is like the soviet union or the third reich or the roman empire is just stupid.
bromine80 2 years ago 2
@bromine80
In Germany today you will never see such giant parades. And in the USA - i propose - it is the same. It has something to do with the fact which value we give military. In western society military is mostly in the background - especially in Europe - in Soviet Union and socialist countries uniforms and soldiers were omnipresent.
Princepsmaximus 2 years ago
Yes because we send our marines abroad in order to maintain our empire.
Empire - Capitalism and its "communists" allies (UK,usa, stalin, mao, hitler etc)
Rebels - ALL died in action (La Commune de Paris, Lenin,"che" Guevara,Luther king etc)
in the middle the rest of us, with out knowing crap about WTF is going on.
sinmina 1 year ago
@Princepsmaximus Ever see a tea party rally with all the different homemade signs in contrast to an Obama rally with everyone holding the same uniform,pre-made sign, makes for good propaganda. Did you know the Nazi's learned the effective use of propaganda and control of the media, from the American Progressive party. Obama being a progressive himself, sure does put on a good rally.
LuckyTHlRT33N 1 year ago
@Princepsmaximus That's right. In the UK, we have the odd parade from soldiers coming back from the war, and the guards at the palace playing funny music, but the scale on which the Romans, Nazis, and Soviets did it were to serve the nationalistic purpose: that the army is strong and powerful. That you should be proud of your country's soldiers, AND afraid of them! And like you said, in modern Germany, they've taken such big measures to disassociate the country from Nazism.
SnakeOnAPlane 1 year ago
@bromine80
This is like the European Parliament in Brussels. Tony Blair is like Palpatine, he seeks total control of a European Empire.
pluto4847 1 year ago
Jedi Order - Catholic Church
Sith - Masons, or other group with power
Empire - USA
Rebels - ?
^^ this is today, and then:
Jedi Order - Democrats
Sith - Komunnist
Empire - USSR
Rebels - USA
Mietus27 2 years ago
@Mietus27
Funny thoughts.^^ I propose that everyone today would and will set roles as it is serves his intentions. Of course so everyone thinks himself to be a Jedi and his opponents to be the Empire. An American maybe would say El-Kaida or China are the Empire, others would say the NWO is the Empire.
Princepsmaximus 2 years ago
@Princepsmaximus yea, this is exactly what I want to say. Star Wars is not, just simple story about sciencefiction hero's. This story contain sth more.
Mietus27 2 years ago
@Mietus27 Actually, the US probably represents the Republic more, which I do agree that the Catholic Church does have it's moments that is shared with the Jedi, but then I think it's the same with any established religion. Oh, and the Democrats seem to use deception, bribery, and intimidation, as shown with the recent Health Care reform bill, which seems more in line with the Sith.
Meyosan 1 year ago
@Mietus27 Jedi-Buddhists
Sith-Fascists
Republic-Liberal USA
CIS-East India Trading Company
Empire-Conservative USA
Rebels-Vietnam
TheFifthColumn1 1 year ago
@Mietus27
The USA could just as easily be depicted as an oppressive Empire.
Dekuscrubby 1 year ago
@Dekuscrubby
Quite right. Just what i said it, it´s all a question of your point of view. That´s the same with for example "300": Americans could say they are the Spartans and the terrorists the Persians, the Muslims could say that they are the Spartans who defend their homeland against the decadent imperialists represented by the Persians as the Americans.
Princepsmaximus 1 year ago
@Princepsmaximus Wait, what? That makes absolutely no sense. Last I checked, the Muslim terrorists attacked us first. Twin towers, 9/11, September attacks, ring any bells?
dvader001 1 year ago
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2012isnear 1 year ago
@Princepsmaximus accept The US has traditionally been liberty or less government. It is only recently that the socialists have taken over America under obama bin ladin!
DK0526 1 year ago
@Mietus27 You have to be kidding me if you believe Democrats to be the Jedi Order. Your right about Sith being Communists, Democrats are the Senate that have been used and twisted by the Sith (Progressives) to more towards a Totalitarian Communist state, only thing that's fighting against them is Rebels-Republicans being led by the Jedi Order - the Tea Party movement, moving away from Big government control and oppression towards Liberty, as given to us by our founding fathers.
LuckyTHlRT33N 1 year ago
@Mietus27 the jedi order couldn't be the catholic church. the jedi don't condemn you for not subscribing to their beliefs
VoDKaVicious 1 year ago
I noticed the color of all imperial troops were either red, black, or white most likely the Nazi flag when Hitler was in power.
CountMandarin 2 years ago
And history, :P
agreeableviews816 2 years ago
It's not about the history, it's about the present and future.
agreeableviews816 2 years ago
Excellent video. i noticed all these little facts in the movies, and this video just put it all together. Thank you very much. Once again, excellent vid.
lorenzofalchi 2 years ago 5
Great clip! :D
Too bad you didn't bring up the connectons between the American civil war and the galactic civil war! And the beginning with the trade federation could also be compared to Japan in the league of nations in the 30's!
MrDavetz 2 years ago 9
totally get your point I've always noticed a stark resemblance between the prequels and the Roman Republic turned Empire
but not just that Anakin is kind of a Pompey character doing the bidding of others in the hopes of bringing his good intentions to bear and in both cases it just corrupts them so that they cant stand themself and what they've done
in Pompey's case he wanted the reward due to his men and had to join with Crassus and Caesar to get it and well Ani just wanted to save his wife
JediXWingQueen 2 years ago
Obviously George Lucas took several chapters from the history and created his "saga".
mkreisel 2 years ago 2
@mkreisel
.. and he made well ;)
Sonostatonominato 2 years ago
"Lord Vader , yes . . . Master . . . . . .Rise!"
jayce79 2 years ago
your feeble skills are no match for the power of the dark side....
starvinmarvins1 2 years ago
I really enjoyed this. That musta been a lota work. But are you also saying that Luke Skywalker and the rebels also resemble Hitler , the Nazis and the Socalist Oder? Because they had a celebratory celemony?
jayce79 2 years ago 2
It was just to show the optical parallels between those two scenes.
Princepsmaximus 2 years ago
Senator Palpatine looks strikingly similar to new EU president Herman Van Rompuy!
CharmingLordSausage 2 years ago
North Coreans? Other than that, good job. Where did you get all the stock footage, by the way?
Kyle2themax 2 years ago
North Korean spelled wrong
Faxisi 2 years ago
Star Wars is nothing more than the scifi version of the Second World War. Useless to look for other parallels. :P
IlluminationGlobal 2 years ago
idiot...
Zoozio 2 years ago
you can recognize this at the first view, dumbass. especially by looking at the design. :P
IlluminationGlobal 2 years ago
and i am barack obama
Zoozio 2 years ago
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really? you poor thing.
IlluminationGlobal 2 years ago
These are not the only parallels. You could also see - especially in episode III - parallels to the situation of the United States nowadays. Palpatine = US President, Senate = UNO, Separatists = Terrorists, Empire = New World Order?
Princepsmaximus 2 years ago
Empire can be interpreted as New World Order? Oookay. What does the USA understand as New World Order? Is there a comparison between China and the Empire?^^ The Separatists are Islamic Terrorists - or newly European Terrorists. My God, these are Lucas films! Especially stup...notably is the comparison between the conferring scene and a Nazi event. Sorry, only Amis can be so blue-eyed and don't understand their own movies.^^
IlluminationGlobal 2 years ago
I think i remember that Lucas himself said he was inspired by "Triumph of the Will" in that scene. Furthermore Natalie Portman 2005 in an interview remarked Episode III is very political and with connections to reality in our (!) time. For example Hitler never pretended to fight for republic and democracy, but Palpatine did. He was within the system of the democracy while Hitler was oppositional. So Palpatine could have been much more like Bush - or today - Obama.
Princepsmaximus 2 years ago
Antagonist Palpantine didn't fight for the old republik and democracy. He's a fascistic autocrat and not interessted in democratic structures. He wants to design the galaxy to his own ideas. That's often mentioned in the movies and in the idiotic "Extended Universe". His empire has no moral concepts for alien peoples. The empirials wished they could destroy them all. So Palpantine has nothing to with a marionette like Bush. That doesn't work.
IlluminationGlobal 2 years ago
Everyone knows Bush is a loser and that he has failed politically. But in 2005 some people may have thought he himself would have autocratic aims. It is right what you say but that has not to do with what i said. The senate and the jedis don´t know Palpatine hates the republic because he always ensured he would defend republic and democracy. So he could come to power. He was within the system although he didn´t like it. That was his private opinion he hided from the galaxy.
Princepsmaximus 2 years ago
And isn´t it possible that a president like Obama personally favours a dictatorship, an autocratic system? We don´t know it as the jedis didn´t know how Palpatine thought. There are indications: "Patriot Act", censorship, health care reforms, etc. Maybe an oligarchy prepares the installation of a dictatorship, maybe they will accumulate power until they are powerful enough to show their real face.
Princepsmaximus 2 years ago
@Princepsmaximus
What is so anti-demorcatic to giving health coverage to those who need it? That's ULTRA democratic! And don't give me all that anti-vaccine conspiracy BS, I've had it.
LouistheHedgehog 2 years ago
when he wrote all 6 films, 30+ years ago, he was basing it on the situation in vietnam. That is all. Other paralells are purely because vietnam parallels other events in history.
hey134 2 years ago
I know that Lucas often tells the story about having the idea for all 6 films inside his head over 30 years ago...My God, you have seen the new trilogie. That's a 30 years later written story for the today's mobile phone generation. He had no ideas for the prehistory when he started the procduction of the first movie in 1977. He's only a unconvincible big head.
IlluminationGlobal 2 years ago
I think it's very well put together, and clearly exhibits thought and merit, however I find the analogy comparing Hitler addressing Germany to an award ceremony in which rebels are being awarded for their heroism against the tyrannical empire a little farfetched. I am speaking in archetypes mind you, not actually concerned whether or not it's luke we're talking about.
Ficks2 2 years ago
Hitler fighting Hitler? It makes perfect sense.
amerasianmom 2 years ago
It should just show that the ending scene of episode IV is very similiar to the ending scene of triumph of the will.
Princepsmaximus 2 years ago
...And would be useful in a cinematic and not a political comparison.^^
IlluminationGlobal 2 years ago
lmao
hey134 2 years ago
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Palpatine is George Bush
gregg451 2 years ago
But George Bush has given away his power after the two prescribed periods of office - Palpatine not.
Princepsmaximus 2 years ago
Shouldn't the but what's that remark at the end be a British Flag and spitfires and all conquering Anglo-saxon peoples against the Germanic tribes and evil of this world? no one takes into account that Britain is always there sorting out the worlds problems ? strange that :D
psweep 2 years ago 2
I absolutely love this movie! I can actually say, then of the 16 000 movies I have seen here on youtube...
This is one of the three best...
Long live the Empire!
ThrawnDuGard2 2 years ago 2
george lucas himself states that star wars was based on the "US empire".
the blindness to fight vietnam despite the fact that the "communist" were really fighting against the "imperialist" of france. what what got him to write about it.
history is doom to repeated for those who do not study it. needless to say, by the slacker: bush jr.
so pls, learn your history.
lagrangewei 2 years ago
@lagrangewei uh no he diddn't. If you listen to his commentary for episode 4 he clearly states he based the empire off of rome. That and the US is a republic not an empire.
Ameer18 1 year ago
I have made many connections to the Empire being based of of Nazi Germany, Palpatine being Hitler obviously, but some of the events to: such as, Order 66 (at least for me) makes a connection to "The night of the long knives" in which the SS killed almost all of the SA leaders (which in Starwars would be Jedi). As well as the fact the Palpaitine, like Hitler was betreyed by his highest officers (Vader in Starwars). When I was younger I never noticed these connections, now its very interesting.
rdvd7 2 years ago
HMM is inspired but not the same
ImperialGuard9001 2 years ago
you miss spelled "Korean"!
jj061295 2 years ago
The ending is ridiculous -a parallel to Hitler would be Darth Vader, not Skywalker and Solo. But the comparison of the Republic Senate to the UN is spot on, both seem powerless and ultimtely useless.
pastrami1945 2 years ago
Hitler is not compared to Skywalker, only the sequences are compared to each other. It is evident that Lucas has been inspired by the final scene of "triumph of the will". The similiarity is clear.
Princepsmaximus 2 years ago
Also may I add that the Soviets were a threat to America and her allies because it wished for a communistic world and to do so tortured and kill millions upon millions of innocent civilians because they didn't agree with the Soviet Dictatorship of the Proletariat. And, communism would see the end of all major things the US fought for, including freedoms, democratic elections, and free trade. Sure us Americans don't like communists, but its not just because what the government is telling us.
jodakid15 3 years ago
"The well-ordered masses of soldiers remind of chinese, north-corean or third-reich military parades"...
"Indeed the empire seems to be a mixture of Roman Empire, Third Reich and Soviet Union"...
1) Nazis and Communist are the exact opposites. One cannot make a comparision between those fractions.
2) All this anti-communism from America pisses me off! Are most americans really THAT stupid to believe everything they are told from their conservative government?
DraculaCronqvist 3 years ago
There are some parallels between Communists and National-socialists or fascists. It is spoken of totalitarism.
Princepsmaximus 3 years ago
That might be true when spoken of China or USSR, but a real communistic country (which was not founded yet) wouldn't be a dictatorship or a totalitaristic regime.
DraculaCronqvist 3 years ago
That are saying the communists. But indeed communismus always would lead to hell.
Princepsmaximus 3 years ago
No, communism would save the world...
We are on the road to hell... capitalism destroys the world.
DraculaCronqvist 3 years ago
That´s right, but communism is not the way out.
Princepsmaximus 3 years ago
And which way out would you suggest?
Facism, capitalism... it's all garbage...
Anarchism is horrible too, since the people do need a few rules to live at.
So Communism/Marxism is the best way.
I don't mean to offend somebody.
It's just my opinion.
DraculaCronqvist 3 years ago
You thoughts are too linear. Why there shouldn´t be a third way between two materialistic societys? A way closer to human nature and belief?
Princepsmaximus 3 years ago
Communism isn't really that materialistic. But okay, a third way would be to abandon all technology... that would help too.
DraculaCronqvist 3 years ago
communism is the eradication of all property in which there is no country, and the thing is that once people have power they tend to be shy of getting rid of it. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. I know Communism itself is not totalitarian, but the marxist way to achieve it is very much so. Marx believed through the "re-educating" of the people you achieve a classless society with no property but you can not re-teach people that there are no classes. You can not change common sense.
jodakid15 3 years ago
But there is! The 3-rd way! Hitler said that his system is 3-rd way. Be very carefull, when you make a wish - it can come a truth... Good luck
Ssmoku80 2 years ago
@DraculaCronqvist communism toppled the soviet empire so i would disagree.
Ameer18 1 year ago
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@DraculaCronqvist communism toppled the soviet empire so i would disagree.
Ameer18 1 year ago
No communism is stupid and killed milions of people long passing National Socialism and Fascism isnt just thing that goverment tells them in fact most of americans arent anti communists they simply dont care about politics
ImperialGuard9001 2 years ago
while I agree with you in seeing how communism as it existed under Stalinism, even Lenin, and in Red China, resulted in catastrophic things, I wouldn't say communism is stupid. Sure it's idealogically different than a free-market driven democracy, and sure it's not, or at least has never proven to be functional, but I don't think there's anything inherently stupid in it. (just want to say I disagree with communism, to clarify)
Ficks2 2 years ago
Darth Sidious=jew....
Blackhawk11X 3 years ago
I am like so , glad to have come across your site, this is so real . I have never been a political person, but i am now spirtually intuned to the political world and all that is going on world wide has too much in common with star wars, I dont think people realize Lucas as the Prophet he is,right now there is a satelite in space tht Bill Gates and othes are paying billions for to look into space to see other planets AND FATHER INTO OTHER DIMENSIONS, Now what dose that tell you.
clevermisses4 3 years ago
Great vid... but I'm wondering what you intended to show with your comparison of the rebel victory to a Nazi rally...
Captain42x 3 years ago
I wanted to show what inspired Lucas to make this scene. The similiarities cannot be denied.
Princepsmaximus 3 years ago
A good point, Princepsmaximus, but the rebels are portrayed as valiant heroes in Star Wars. Do you disagree with this portrayal?
Captain42x 3 years ago
No, but the jedi order seems sometimes a bit buddhistic to me.
Princepsmaximus 3 years ago
alright, well I just wanted to point out that it seemed like you were comparing Jedi to Nazis.
Of course, the do Jedi have issues of hypocrisy; Mace Windu attempted to kill palpatine without trial, and Obi Wan himself deals in absolutes, despite criticizing Anakin for doing so.
Captain42x 3 years ago
Interesting kinda funny how a fictional movie actualy compares whith our political lives.
mchobo12 3 years ago
Star Wars is just the story of WWII set in a galaxy far, far away. Very unimaginative, to say the least. Hitler and the Nazis are much more impressive and scary than the cartoonish Darth Vader and the storm troopers in their silly white bunny suits.
rziegler60 3 years ago
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Okay. Good for you? Ridiculous comment. Apparently the white bunny suits gave George Lucas a boat to float on in a sea of cash.
This video was great, thanks a bunch PrincepsMaximus.
XaviersSecretary 3 years ago
So when nukes will start falling ? You know WWIII & staff, I want to see Fallout in real ftw
ss4456 3 years ago
careful what you wish for
nicko978 3 years ago
Bei 5:05 sind die Ruinen von Tikal. ;)
Bierkiller87 3 years ago
haha KarldGr! ich kannte das zwar schon, aber trotzdem gute arbeit. wie es schein ist es den meisten hier ja noch nicht bekannt. besonders das wookiegrunzen als hitler redet war super :D. nuja, machet jut!
FritzHohlstein 3 years ago
Death at the rebel ! Glory at the Empire !
Grimgor2a 3 years ago
Rebels are nazis lol xD
ImperialGuard9001 3 years ago
Ich find das Imperium cool! Scheiß Rebellen!!! xD
Fliegertruppe 3 years ago 2
ist doch klar dass das alles ähnlich ist, das deutsch-national-sozialistische und russisch-sozialistische waren die ersten beiden bei denen so gute propaganda-aufzeichnungen gemacht wurden, diese hatten beide das römische reich als vorbild, zumindest propagandistisch gesehen, dieses war mit den griechischen "stadtreichen" unter den ersten propagandistischen "stadtstaaten"/-reichen, ist ja klar dass wenn man einen Film macht sich daran orientiert, nicht nur star wars sonder auch "doom" ;)
ORTHODOXPRIDE 3 years ago
Ich glaube nicht, dass du im Mittelalter oder in der Frühen Neuzeit ähnliche Bilder hättest machen können, selbst wenn es Fernsehen gegeben hätte. Liegt einfach an der Wiederentdeckung des antiken Egalitarismus.
Princepsmaximus 3 years ago
Könnte gut hinkommen,..ich glaube dass sich dieser "Paradismus" aus jeder gewonnenen Schlacht für jedes Volk, jede Kultur entwickelte, wenn du dir bspw die mongolischen Horden anschaust welche vom Khan und Oberschamanen geweiht wurden vor und nach Schlachten, eventuell auch irgendwo vergleichbar, ich glaube dass allerdings "architektonisch" gesehen so etwas bei den Römern und dann erst wieder bei Sozialisten und Nationalsozialisten auftrat :) Gruß
ORTHODOXPRIDE 3 years ago
Wobei ich glaube, dass das bei den ostasiatischen Völkern nochmal etwas spezielles ist. Diese Aufmärsche wie in Pjöngjang sind irgendwie anders als im Dritten Reich.
Princepsmaximus 3 years ago
Ist mir noch nie aufgefallen wie ehnlich das allis ist. Gut gemacht
alofelge12 3 years ago
nice
ThePatrioticPotatos 3 years ago 2