@VitoPossilipo No. After he has eaten something from a package looking as a cereal-box he finds at the journeys end, he lies down on a bed and falls to sleep "for the last time". Then he is transformed to some kind of energy-being with unlimited powers and travels all the way back to Earth where "what man calls history is about to come to an end".
Imagine being this guy at that moment. You'd be so totally lost being propelled far through the universe like that only to wake up in that room... pretty deep scene if u imagine being there urself. The whole coming back as a giant baby thing is pretty lame though
The higher powers that initially set down (as) the monolith on Earth guide Dave past heavenly wonders, through a star gate, then recreate Earth for him partially to keep him comfortably alive, to let him live out his full life span, and to allow him to sleep. Then he is transformed into a higher being. He is the singular culmination of the cultivation process started with the ape-men.
it is esoteric in the extreme - the planets are astrological houses, and like the Sephiroth of the Qabalah - - going out to saturn is crossing the abyss into Binah - the weight of time and all existence upon. It ends with the Child - which is like the return to the cosmic womb but also the awakening of the next stage of consciousness - thelemically we are present in the Aeon of the Child
What always amazes me about this film is that the people strike me as acting like robots and "hal" who has the most common human reaction to the situation (act first and think later) is seen as monsterous, when we behave much like hal everyday. Using all our technology and intellegence for better answers but some how that power pushes us further into destruction.
@pjf222 seems creepy to me too--but stanley kubrick saw 40 years ago that computers would take over our world. i had a out of body experience several years ago--and i saw those lights but not pulling me toward them but pulling me back. i think that whatever you believe in is what you see. it's called homeostasis--whatever we believe in is what we see--that makes us feel peaceful when the end is near
Personally I see it vis a vis the existential themes of eternal repetition and evoultion contra decadence. In that way the monolith here is like an abyss or void (sunyata) that you stare into.
It's so chilling---so haunting---so enigmatic. Would any one happen to know what the painting above his head at 3:34 is? Or the one at 1:16? I would figure they have some significance.
Try not to think of Daves eyes as his eyes. Methaphorically speaking, there our eyes, almost like on this psychadelic journey, were seeing the world differently for the first time, if only we can tap into a higher level of understanding, which is what Kubrick was try to tell us.
The meaning to Kubrick’s ending is simple: in relative terms, in context to a species confined within the boundaries of our planet, the evolutionary path we have thus far followed can essentially have us deemed to be an old species in its evolutionary cycle, that is, more or less, in the twilight of our existence, still struggling to deal with the same issues that have afflicted our species from the very beginning, war, conflict, famine, poverty etc - effectively, progress itself;
however, when rationalised in context to the universe, we are less than an incubating child – a foetus - still yet to evolve. All of which represents the next big step for our species - hence the monolith at the end of the bed.
Decode the sequences of images at the very end and you will see it. The monolith is symbolic it is not actual.
Honestly, I think Kubrick just put this in to fuck with us. I don't think he really meant anything. He just sat there and laughed at our pathetic attempts to understand it, when in reality, it means nothing.
Best movie ever. No other one ever reached the philosophical meaning that Kubrick and Clarke set up here.
I get the goosebumps everytime again and nearly feel the awareness of every single atom surrounding me just at the edge of my conscience every time I watch this unique movie. All of our sorrow will end, if one day, one of us may be blessed to get to this next, advanced state of being.
Outerspace and the monolith is the picture/screen that your looking at which in return gives you ideas that give you knowledge. It is until you do something until you do anything. The monolith gave the Apes ideas, They where looking at the big picture. [Monolith] And the humans were looking at the bigger picture[space]. The picture in which you decide to do something before you proceed with an idea.
you can watch life pass you by, or it will pass without you.
It's pretty simple as to what this ending means....the Monolith has propelled Dave so FAR deep into the universe at an incredible speed that he has actually gone past the edge of the universe in some dimension where space and time are all muddled into one moment...the monolith then appears before Dave once more to evolve him as it did with the apes, he becomes the next step in evolution - The Star Child, a watcher of planets.......I'm just kidding, I haven't a clue as to what's going on >.>
Übermensch. Yes, this story quite remarkably explains the whole concept behind Nietzsches overhuman. A man who has evolved past the human morality, we cannot see "him" because "he" is in all terms a step above us. Neither can we understand "him", "he" doesn't speak the same way we do. In fact, we cannot say "he" speaks. So, Dave here is our newborn Zarathustra, the first overhuman while Hal represents the world we live in today, science and Platonic Idealism which is "incapable of error"
Nietzsche was deeply motivated by Arthur Schopenhauer who proved that by following the ideals of platonic idealism ( basis of abstractions, for example: one knows what a perfect triangle is but he cannot draw a perfect triangle ) life ends up meaningless. There is no hope since human has a desire to be happy, meanwhile happiness actually is not to desire anything, impossible equation.
@VeteranofIntranetz Nietzsche got deeply motivated by this and actually critiziced the way we process information ( principles of Platonic Idealism ) and managed the broke the chain that leads to the meaningless life according to mr. Schopenhauer. So, Dave here has managed to reach the step which is above us normal humans.
I laughed at the ending back in 1969 and I am still laughing today. I think it's pretentious and mind-numbing. I think Kubrick had to think of something to end it with so he came up with a monolith, meaning really nothing at all but making you think that you should "get it."
@mee323 What is actually funny is that it's always so easy to gauge the cynicism and stupidity of an individual simply by their reaction to the ending of 2001. You sir are the stereotypical moron who thinks anything meaningful in art is pretentious and anything not spelled out in a movie for you is nonexistent or not even worth thinking about....as if you'd be capable of coming to a conclusion on your own at all. Take your snide remarks elsewhere.
I didn't know what 2001 a space odyssey was until reading wikipedia, made me curious to see the effects and how the editing of the end was and I must say that that was one of the most nightmare inducing scenes I've ever. That being said I thought that the fact that he saw himself at different stages in life was cool representation for a place in which time doesn't exist or apply, all stages existing at the same time... whether or not that was intended by the movie maker
BUT don't forget the overall story is indeed of alien technology which brings enlightenment to it's subjects
The noise/singing is it interacting, just like in the psychedelic scenes in which WE are the subjects
The APES experience enlightenment to make weapons
The HUMANS in the crater experience unknown enlightenment when they travel to discover the final location of the "radio-waves" given off, one of their kind (Dave) "evolving" into a new form of enlightened human
Showing a new, higher form of human being born with greater understanding is a criticism of CURRENT man, who used to enlightenment to make weapons
The monolith was a vertical slab of black
But when rotated horizontally as told to by all the alignment clues in the film, it represents a cinema screen where the VIEWER can then experience the true meaning of the film themselves
This was also a great novel by Arthur C. Clarke. If you enjoyed this you should read the rest of the series: 2010, 2061, and 3001. They also made a movie for 2010.
@gtenshi The song you're talking about doesn't "come from" the movie, it was actually composed by Richard Strauss sometime in the late 1880s, 1890ish. It's called Also Sprach Zarathustra, translated as Thus Spoke Zarathustra. The part they play in the movie is just the first couple of minutes of the piece, the whole thing is much, much longer.
@gtenshi The song you're talking about doesn't "come from" the movie, it was actually composed by Richard Strauss sometime in the late 1880s, 1890ish. It's called Also Sprach Zarathustra, translated as Thus Spoke Zarathustra. The part they play in the movie is just the first couple of minutes of the piece, the whole thing is much, much longer.
@kraznot fuck the nothing.,.. fuck he bizness ... fuck the masons.. fuck the nsa... its not there job to push these little tricks on us to program us for their deeds, nothing is just mindless banter for people who couldnt use their brains to think
The monolith was the key to enlightenment for the film characters
The apes learned to make weapons, humans to make spacecrafts
The black screens with the same music that played during the enlightenment sequences, was us looking directly at the monolith surface
The dreamscape sequence with all the colours is THE VIEWER finally undergoing this enlightenment, where we see the birth of a new human form, of greater understanding
@ehmazin Unforetunately, when I was a kid, I couldn't watch it all the way though. Because it just freaked me out too much. Just the way Kubrick shot it and HAL's cold voice, and his chilling score. In a way I was kind of ignorant, like I didnt want to understand it.
Like, the dreamscape sequence used to terrify me because of the flash frames of Dave in space.
I hope you undertsnad what I mean, and not think I'm ignorant now.
@ehmazin But why has Bowman to become an old man first before he evolve, whilst the primates in the beginning only take minutes for their evolution leap?
@VitoPossilipo The most probably reason that Bowman becomes an old man before he makes the evolutionary leap is probably because the monolith shows Bowman the malleability of space-time. This can be assumed because the monolith draws Bowman towards itself and acts as a gate to transport him back to earth.
@ehmazin Bowman looked like he was having a kriya experience in the pod, eyes pointed to the third eye chakra and shaking from the power of rising kundalini energy. The colors of the pod trip suggest something akin to a psychedelic LSD trip--a mind expanding experience.
@johnnyjayramone You gotta read the whole series to see it. The monoliths were artifacts left in our solar system by an advanced alien race. Each time we uncover one, it sends a message to the aliens alerting them to our technological progress and also the state of humanity when we uncovered it ie. war, peace, etc. It's been forever since I read the series, but I think in the last book they find out that the aliens have been so discouraged with our progress that they decide we shouldn't
be allowed to expand beyond the solar system, and they decide to destroy us. There's a whole bunch of other stuff that happens, but that's the gist of it. Like I said, it's been awhile since I read it.
@jabberwolf it was the weak learning how to team up against the strong... fuck the masons,.. fuck the bizness... fuck the cults... and fuck the intelligence agencys who push this shit on us to divide and conquer
If we lived in a 2 dimensional world and saw a sphere pass through it. We would only see a circle appear, grow and shrink then disappear. We could not see all points of the sphere to comprehend its a sphere - because we could only see things in 2 dimensions.
Dave is seeing all points of time of his life passing before him. He's trying to comprehend seeing all points of time... at the same time. Seeing and comprehending things in the 4th dimension: time.
Secretly, when Arthur C. Clarke saw this for the first time, all he could think was 'Shitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshit. Shit. Shit. How the hell am I supposed to explain that?!'
I haven't researched enough of A.C. Clarkes philosophies and studies yet, but I get a sense from his "fiction" and other scientist(s) commentary about black holes and string theory that Man is incapable of deliberately comprehending the "bridge" to enlightenment. Mystics and other pseudo-science types say it requires an intervention from "others" This sci-fi arc and the "Langoliers" idea give me an idea for a story for a universal theory
I don't know if it's because I read the novel before I saw the movie, but "2001: A Space Odyssey" never confused me. I seriously don't get Clarke's comment about how the movie is supposed to raise more questions than it answers. It seems pretty straight forward to me: some sort of alien device is helping humans evolve so they can eventually travel to outer space and reach enlightenment.
@krumovies26 What's interesting with the movie is not the alien plot, which is pretty basic, but the hundreds of symbols that can be found throughout the film and reveal several hidden metaphorical narratives, which contain drastically different subliminal messages, very often unrelated to the alien plot. I suggest you go to the website collativelearning . com, it has a very well researched in-depth analaysis of the film that will help make you realize the true potential of that masterpiece.
Interesting to see the interview( on the special edition of the film..) of the actor who plays Dave Bowman is as old now as he was shown in the film (eating dinner..) 2001..
One of the greatest things about this scene is probably the music. I love how it builds up and then ends like it's announcing something incredibly monumental while showing Dave becoming the most highly evolved being imaginable. I really wish there were more movies like this film. It truly establishes movies as a form of art.
I think the beauty of this scene and the movie as a whole is that it is puzzling and could be interpreted in many ways. Dont be frustrated if you dont "get it", in my opinion the only thing we should understand from this movie is that time and space cannont be understood
@JohnDefy the oldman eating his dinner and the old man dying in the bed was Daves older selves , then after the death of the very older self , we see dave reborn as the Star Child , a supernatural being with the ability to travel through space and alternate dimensions.
This is Kubrick and Clarke's concept The Starchild. It's Bowman perfected; as he has passed through 'Beyond the Infinite'. I should know: I spoke with Stanley last month at our weekly seance. Der Fuehrer confirmed that this was the fulfillment of his ideal Uebermenschkind. Notice the perfect Aryan features. But I'm seriously. No one before or since has mastered the art of meaning through imagery the way Kubrick did. Decades before advanced CGI, he captured something timeless and beyond words.
Is the end meant that Bowman spends the rest of his life in this room? But wouldn´t that be pretty boring?
VitoPossilipo 10 months ago
@VitoPossilipo I suggest You read the novel by Arthur C Clarke. There everything is much better explained.
YDDES 9 months ago
@YDDES Thank you. I´ve read it. But I can´t remember everything. Is Bowman in the novel also for such a long time in the room?
VitoPossilipo 9 months ago
@VitoPossilipo No. After he has eaten something from a package looking as a cereal-box he finds at the journeys end, he lies down on a bed and falls to sleep "for the last time". Then he is transformed to some kind of energy-being with unlimited powers and travels all the way back to Earth where "what man calls history is about to come to an end".
YDDES 9 months ago
If you'll notice, that the look of the baby inside of the bubble looks dramatically similar to what the common perception of an alien looks like.
iTrollPhorPhun 10 months ago
i just love the ending song:O
rsjuulrs 10 months ago
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im so pissed
Gtitspank 10 months ago
Am I really the only person who was at least a bit disturbed by the whole "baby-in-a-bubble" thing? I mean, really...
ILiveForCommenting 10 months ago
monolith gets into apes and later gets into Hal the next step
theeasybeats 10 months ago
first: OMG thats soooooooo scary!!!
then,,, wth?
teriafun 10 months ago
What does the space baby think of all this?
Leatherbubba 10 months ago
Imagine being this guy at that moment. You'd be so totally lost being propelled far through the universe like that only to wake up in that room... pretty deep scene if u imagine being there urself. The whole coming back as a giant baby thing is pretty lame though
CrazyEurazion 10 months ago
INTERGALACTIC URANIUM! Alas...
MayaMayiim 10 months ago
by far craziest movie I have ever witnessed high on drugs.
juggernaut0701 10 months ago
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@juggernaut0701 That is so cool that you were on drugs.
ohNo231 10 months ago
The higher powers that initially set down (as) the monolith on Earth guide Dave past heavenly wonders, through a star gate, then recreate Earth for him partially to keep him comfortably alive, to let him live out his full life span, and to allow him to sleep. Then he is transformed into a higher being. He is the singular culmination of the cultivation process started with the ape-men.
MrSaulgravy 10 months ago
it is esoteric in the extreme - the planets are astrological houses, and like the Sephiroth of the Qabalah - - going out to saturn is crossing the abyss into Binah - the weight of time and all existence upon. It ends with the Child - which is like the return to the cosmic womb but also the awakening of the next stage of consciousness - thelemically we are present in the Aeon of the Child
buechnerstod 10 months ago
Nonsense.
leeham991 10 months ago
Is it just me, or this the most epic moment I have ever seen?
haydos271 10 months ago
ok i think i am one of those monkeys. I DO NOT GET THIS MOVIE. Oh well i did not loose anything. Lets watch avatar.
alextkachev962 10 months ago
What always amazes me about this film is that the people strike me as acting like robots and "hal" who has the most common human reaction to the situation (act first and think later) is seen as monsterous, when we behave much like hal everyday. Using all our technology and intellegence for better answers but some how that power pushes us further into destruction.
fatcheeks87 10 months ago
I have a a giant black fridge in my kitchen. Sometimes when I see it, I think about this movie LOL
PsalmsNmyrrh 10 months ago
What is the song in the ending, i want to know.
Imahdum666 10 months ago
@Imahdum666 "Also Spake Zarathustra" 1896 by Richard Strauss 1864-1949
mamadeus081 10 months ago
my question is in he final scene why does the fetus have 1 eye open and 1 shut?
moneybags1972 10 months ago
gives me the chills each time...great ending to a masterpiece
awesomeguy234564 10 months ago
WHEN IS THIS MASTERPICE TECHNOLOGICALY MOVIE COMING OUT????????????? DID HE USE CAMERONS "AVATAR" TEAM?
MrPutsa 10 months ago
@MrPutsa 1968.
DevilDog016 10 months ago
Call me what you will, but can someone be kind enough to describe this at a level an idiot like me can understand...
deathlyfruitloops 10 months ago
@deathlyfruitloops
It's pretentious nonsense.
leeham991 10 months ago
WAAHHHHHHH?
Giles4200 10 months ago
How the hell did they make this film in 1968????
Genius
popjoeandco 10 months ago
@popjoeandco i wonder it myself, cant believe it is made 1968. It was decades ahead of its time!
aure232 10 months ago
Read the book, then you will understand the movie
yomamasapeach 10 months ago
this movie blows ? i don't think so
unknonvato 10 months ago
I think the message is that you shouldn't eat expired salsa or you will have some crazy freakin' hallucinations.
SavedByGraceAdam 10 months ago 4
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
streetcarjay 10 months ago
I never understood the ending, but I'll give it one thing, I found it creepy as all hell.
pjf222 11 months ago
@pjf222
1pupblacky 10 months ago
@pjf222 seems creepy to me too--but stanley kubrick saw 40 years ago that computers would take over our world. i had a out of body experience several years ago--and i saw those lights but not pulling me toward them but pulling me back. i think that whatever you believe in is what you see. it's called homeostasis--whatever we believe in is what we see--that makes us feel peaceful when the end is near
1pupblacky 10 months ago
What sick men sends babies to spaceflight?
oniichandrawings 11 months ago
Personally I see it vis a vis the existential themes of eternal repetition and evoultion contra decadence. In that way the monolith here is like an abyss or void (sunyata) that you stare into.
cbos7 11 months ago
I don't get it.
MasterNacho94 11 months ago
@MasterNacho94 Than u r a stupid and unintelegent monkey!
oskarscaikovskis 11 months ago
@oskarscaikovskis good job spelling unintelligent incorrectly.
supermegaawesomestud 10 months ago
Time is relative...
shiftymorgan 11 months ago
kubrick use drugs
darkanel666 11 months ago
It's so chilling---so haunting---so enigmatic. Would any one happen to know what the painting above his head at 3:34 is? Or the one at 1:16? I would figure they have some significance.
moolovett 11 months ago
but why did he choose a house like that?? what he meant with those symbols???
blefusku 11 months ago
The mystery of this sequence is haunting.
Skibsie 11 months ago
In the end, theres only death. The third monolith is an evil one,
it messes the mind.
just like the rock in Dead Space. See Dead Space 1 and 2 :)
Kurusame 11 months ago
I was nearly moved to tears by how epic this ending was when i first watched it at the ripe age of 14
underbightdog23 11 months ago
Powerful ending!
eaglepilot2006 11 months ago
Try not to think of Daves eyes as his eyes. Methaphorically speaking, there our eyes, almost like on this psychadelic journey, were seeing the world differently for the first time, if only we can tap into a higher level of understanding, which is what Kubrick was try to tell us.
At least, thats my 2 cents anyhow.
Smithereen1 11 months ago
Most hopeful movie ending ever
jockohomo84 11 months ago
The Ending with the sound is just amazing!
TheGhunter2001 11 months ago
PART 1:
The meaning to Kubrick’s ending is simple: in relative terms, in context to a species confined within the boundaries of our planet, the evolutionary path we have thus far followed can essentially have us deemed to be an old species in its evolutionary cycle, that is, more or less, in the twilight of our existence, still struggling to deal with the same issues that have afflicted our species from the very beginning, war, conflict, famine, poverty etc - effectively, progress itself;
octopius 11 months ago
Part II:
however, when rationalised in context to the universe, we are less than an incubating child – a foetus - still yet to evolve. All of which represents the next big step for our species - hence the monolith at the end of the bed.
Decode the sequences of images at the very end and you will see it. The monolith is symbolic it is not actual.
octopius 11 months ago
Honestly, I think Kubrick just put this in to fuck with us. I don't think he really meant anything. He just sat there and laughed at our pathetic attempts to understand it, when in reality, it means nothing.
ryanmshepard92 11 months ago
Best movie ever. No other one ever reached the philosophical meaning that Kubrick and Clarke set up here.
I get the goosebumps everytime again and nearly feel the awareness of every single atom surrounding me just at the edge of my conscience every time I watch this unique movie. All of our sorrow will end, if one day, one of us may be blessed to get to this next, advanced state of being.
LeutholdJR 11 months ago
Incredible. Life goes on. We dont know wherer we came from, and we dont know where we are going.
Mistery of life.
Boldrooooo 11 months ago
The Monolith evolves Bowman into a superhuman protector of Earth.From what? Stay tuned-- (it's so simple, I can't believe you guys didn't GET this)--
cosmicdingo 11 months ago
this makes me feel peaceful
boogiebuddy01 11 months ago
Is it just me that thinks the star child doesn´t look like a baby in the final shot but more like a a adult with a big head and small body?
TastyPie95 11 months ago
All Kubrick's films have something to do with Nietzsche
isaacmartin94 11 months ago
@isaacmartin94 Explain
kleban10 11 months ago
@kleban10 Nietzsche's superman idea
isaacmartin94 11 months ago
This is pretty much what happens when you smoke DMT. Epiphany and all.
cerelilqt 11 months ago
Best film ever not for retards
gunay205 11 months ago
I don't get a thing...
6qrents 11 months ago
hey thats me!
crallex 11 months ago
just wikipedia it people, it's all explained in the novel also
untiltheend22 11 months ago
this film sent me to sleep. WAS SO F.IN BORING!
clock work was brilliant though
arcz10 11 months ago
this film sent me to sleep. WAS SO F.IN BORING!
arcz10 11 months ago
0:30 he is watching things go by
1:19 hes wondering how he got to this point in time
2:00 he sees a painting of a tree/ trees represent life
2:45 hes watching how his life went by so fast,
3:18 tree of life again, with himself at a desk
4:33 he gets up looking for his youth/younger self that was at the door
5:53 he realises, how life can be shatterd like the glass
7:01 he finally looks at the big picture. which is not to let life pass you hes looking at the monoliths meaning. big picture
TheLobsterOfFate 11 months ago 5
I have come to an conclusion.
Outerspace and the monolith is the picture/screen that your looking at which in return gives you ideas that give you knowledge. It is until you do something until you do anything. The monolith gave the Apes ideas, They where looking at the big picture. [Monolith] And the humans were looking at the bigger picture[space]. The picture in which you decide to do something before you proceed with an idea.
you can watch life pass you by, or it will pass without you.
TheLobsterOfFate 11 months ago
It's pretty simple as to what this ending means....the Monolith has propelled Dave so FAR deep into the universe at an incredible speed that he has actually gone past the edge of the universe in some dimension where space and time are all muddled into one moment...the monolith then appears before Dave once more to evolve him as it did with the apes, he becomes the next step in evolution - The Star Child, a watcher of planets.......I'm just kidding, I haven't a clue as to what's going on >.>
TheCONTINUE 1 year ago 21
@TheCONTINUE cool idea
rayblack2004 11 months ago
Übermensch. Yes, this story quite remarkably explains the whole concept behind Nietzsches overhuman. A man who has evolved past the human morality, we cannot see "him" because "he" is in all terms a step above us. Neither can we understand "him", "he" doesn't speak the same way we do. In fact, we cannot say "he" speaks. So, Dave here is our newborn Zarathustra, the first overhuman while Hal represents the world we live in today, science and Platonic Idealism which is "incapable of error"
VeteranofIntranetz 1 year ago 2
@VeteranofIntranetz
Nietzsche was deeply motivated by Arthur Schopenhauer who proved that by following the ideals of platonic idealism ( basis of abstractions, for example: one knows what a perfect triangle is but he cannot draw a perfect triangle ) life ends up meaningless. There is no hope since human has a desire to be happy, meanwhile happiness actually is not to desire anything, impossible equation.
VeteranofIntranetz 1 year ago
@VeteranofIntranetz Nietzsche got deeply motivated by this and actually critiziced the way we process information ( principles of Platonic Idealism ) and managed the broke the chain that leads to the meaningless life according to mr. Schopenhauer. So, Dave here has managed to reach the step which is above us normal humans.
VeteranofIntranetz 1 year ago
I laughed at the ending back in 1969 and I am still laughing today. I think it's pretentious and mind-numbing. I think Kubrick had to think of something to end it with so he came up with a monolith, meaning really nothing at all but making you think that you should "get it."
mee323 1 year ago
@mee323 What is actually funny is that it's always so easy to gauge the cynicism and stupidity of an individual simply by their reaction to the ending of 2001. You sir are the stereotypical moron who thinks anything meaningful in art is pretentious and anything not spelled out in a movie for you is nonexistent or not even worth thinking about....as if you'd be capable of coming to a conclusion on your own at all. Take your snide remarks elsewhere.
mburke000 1 year ago 2
I didn't know what 2001 a space odyssey was until reading wikipedia, made me curious to see the effects and how the editing of the end was and I must say that that was one of the most nightmare inducing scenes I've ever. That being said I thought that the fact that he saw himself at different stages in life was cool representation for a place in which time doesn't exist or apply, all stages existing at the same time... whether or not that was intended by the movie maker
veggiet2009 1 year ago
BUT don't forget the overall story is indeed of alien technology which brings enlightenment to it's subjects
The noise/singing is it interacting, just like in the psychedelic scenes in which WE are the subjects
The APES experience enlightenment to make weapons
The HUMANS in the crater experience unknown enlightenment when they travel to discover the final location of the "radio-waves" given off, one of their kind (Dave) "evolving" into a new form of enlightened human
ehmazin 1 year ago
Showing a new, higher form of human being born with greater understanding is a criticism of CURRENT man, who used to enlightenment to make weapons
The monolith was a vertical slab of black
But when rotated horizontally as told to by all the alignment clues in the film, it represents a cinema screen where the VIEWER can then experience the true meaning of the film themselves
ehmazin 1 year ago
however much id like to think this is a good film, i really dont. amazing quality on blu-ray though
marctheshark101 1 year ago
someone please explain what happens here. i cant get my head around it.
marctheshark101 1 year ago
If you see it as a higher form of human being born at the end, then it can seem a bit pretentious
But for me, it's an attack on current man
Half-way between ape and this civilised man, as Kubrick mentioned
ehmazin 1 year ago
great movie
scheme90 1 year ago
This was also a great novel by Arthur C. Clarke. If you enjoyed this you should read the rest of the series: 2010, 2061, and 3001. They also made a movie for 2010.
whiteguy774 1 year ago
What a mind fuck...
Oh, and this is where that song comes from? Interesting.
gtenshi 1 year ago
@gtenshi The song you're talking about doesn't "come from" the movie, it was actually composed by Richard Strauss sometime in the late 1880s, 1890ish. It's called Also Sprach Zarathustra, translated as Thus Spoke Zarathustra. The part they play in the movie is just the first couple of minutes of the piece, the whole thing is much, much longer.
whiteguy774 1 year ago
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@gtenshi The song you're talking about doesn't "come from" the movie, it was actually composed by Richard Strauss sometime in the late 1880s, 1890ish. It's called Also Sprach Zarathustra, translated as Thus Spoke Zarathustra. The part they play in the movie is just the first couple of minutes of the piece, the whole thing is much, much longer.
whiteguy774 1 year ago
what the fuuuuck?
KappaEffect 1 year ago
I can understand why people say this movie is frustrating. It really requires multiple viewings to fully appreciate the genius of this masterpiece.
funkyflea89 1 year ago
I got goosebumps.
jenxx06 1 year ago
whats so scary about this
carlosperezvidal 1 year ago
@carlosperezvidal nothing, u retard
kraznot 1 year ago
@kraznot fuck the nothing.,.. fuck he bizness ... fuck the masons.. fuck the nsa... its not there job to push these little tricks on us to program us for their deeds, nothing is just mindless banter for people who couldnt use their brains to think
bobbyjohnson111 1 year ago
I really liked on dvd how after the ending it went back to the Blue Danube for the credits.
FireHax0rd 1 year ago
Kubrick is one of our best filmmakers of all time. I remember when MST3K did a parody of this scene in one of their episodes. Pretty hilarious.
cocosilk 1 year ago
There is so much debate about this film, it's unreal. I doubt even Kubrick himself knew what it truly meant.
TheEditingShop 1 year ago 38
@TheEditingShop Well, then he was just tripping balls. XD
RobLucci3 1 year ago
@TheEditingShop
Ofcourse Kubrick knew what it meant
The monolith was the key to enlightenment for the film characters
The apes learned to make weapons, humans to make spacecrafts
The black screens with the same music that played during the enlightenment sequences, was us looking directly at the monolith surface
The dreamscape sequence with all the colours is THE VIEWER finally undergoing this enlightenment, where we see the birth of a new human form, of greater understanding
ehmazin 1 year ago 60
@ehmazin So, in short, Dave now understands the meaning of life.
Big12189 11 months ago
@ehmazin Unforetunately, when I was a kid, I couldn't watch it all the way though. Because it just freaked me out too much. Just the way Kubrick shot it and HAL's cold voice, and his chilling score. In a way I was kind of ignorant, like I didnt want to understand it.
Like, the dreamscape sequence used to terrify me because of the flash frames of Dave in space.
I hope you undertsnad what I mean, and not think I'm ignorant now.
Smithereen1 11 months ago
@ehmazin yes, but knowing what it is, isn't the same as knowing what it means
sSketcha 11 months ago
@ehmazin Too bad this movie blows.
Albavenger 11 months ago
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RastislavNew 10 months ago
@ehmazin But why has Bowman to become an old man first before he evolve, whilst the primates in the beginning only take minutes for their evolution leap?
VitoPossilipo 10 months ago
@VitoPossilipo The most probably reason that Bowman becomes an old man before he makes the evolutionary leap is probably because the monolith shows Bowman the malleability of space-time. This can be assumed because the monolith draws Bowman towards itself and acts as a gate to transport him back to earth.
iTrollPhorPhun 10 months ago
@iTrollPhorPhun But why should the monolith show that to Bowman?
VitoPossilipo 10 months ago
@ehmazin Bowman looked like he was having a kriya experience in the pod, eyes pointed to the third eye chakra and shaking from the power of rising kundalini energy. The colors of the pod trip suggest something akin to a psychedelic LSD trip--a mind expanding experience.
BrokenAeroVT 10 months ago
@TheEditingShop thats a bad thing in a movie!
monkeyman9119 1 year ago
Monolit is metafore for cloning technique.
That man at the end of film can master it, other people can not, nothing happend when they touch monolit.
That man at the end is tipe V human, don't make mistakes.
When his body betray him due to age, and he start making mistakes (smash glas), then he clone himself.
RastislavNew 10 months ago
Reptylian Propaganda!
gkusnierewicz 1 year ago
The movie looks awesome on Blu-ray.
southport97 1 year ago
Man, I dont get it
johnnyjayramone 1 year ago
@johnnyjayramone You gotta read the whole series to see it. The monoliths were artifacts left in our solar system by an advanced alien race. Each time we uncover one, it sends a message to the aliens alerting them to our technological progress and also the state of humanity when we uncovered it ie. war, peace, etc. It's been forever since I read the series, but I think in the last book they find out that the aliens have been so discouraged with our progress that they decide we shouldn't
whiteguy774 1 year ago
@whiteguy774 ahhh. thanks thats the best explanation ive heard so far :0)
johnnyjayramone 1 year ago
be allowed to expand beyond the solar system, and they decide to destroy us. There's a whole bunch of other stuff that happens, but that's the gist of it. Like I said, it's been awhile since I read it.
whiteguy774 1 year ago
Sooooo.....is this supposed to be literary or metaphorical? Or something? I don't get it.
SonofAbel 1 year ago
1) The sound effects are creepy. 2) I wish my bathroom was that spotless!
LivingMindfully1975 1 year ago
So basically it would be a quantum leap in a new way of thinking - understanding.
This is why they had the scene of the apes learning to use a bone as a tool and weapon at the beginning.
It was a leap in evolution in a new understanding.. something that changed the course of humanity forever.
jabberwolf 1 year ago
@jabberwolf it was the weak learning how to team up against the strong... fuck the masons,.. fuck the bizness... fuck the cults... and fuck the intelligence agencys who push this shit on us to divide and conquer
bobbyjohnson111 1 year ago
Read the story "flatland" to understand.
If we lived in a 2 dimensional world and saw a sphere pass through it. We would only see a circle appear, grow and shrink then disappear. We could not see all points of the sphere to comprehend its a sphere - because we could only see things in 2 dimensions.
Dave is seeing all points of time of his life passing before him. He's trying to comprehend seeing all points of time... at the same time. Seeing and comprehending things in the 4th dimension: time.
jabberwolf 1 year ago 3
OMG GIANT SPACE BABY ALL THE WAY!!!! WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?!?!?!?!?
Dukeobelding 1 year ago
@Dukeobelding Dave becomes space-baby, basically
notslowpoke 1 year ago
Secretly, when Arthur C. Clarke saw this for the first time, all he could think was 'Shitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshit. Shit. Shit. How the hell am I supposed to explain that?!'
hotelmario510 1 year ago 3
mindfucking movie but still good
TotalGameMaster 1 year ago
Stanley Kubrick and Ian Anderson, 2 of the 10 greatest visionaries in arts of our time.
Stormwatch153 1 year ago
Easily the best movie ever made.
In my opinion of course.
DaAntnee 1 year ago
I haven't researched enough of A.C. Clarkes philosophies and studies yet, but I get a sense from his "fiction" and other scientist(s) commentary about black holes and string theory that Man is incapable of deliberately comprehending the "bridge" to enlightenment. Mystics and other pseudo-science types say it requires an intervention from "others" This sci-fi arc and the "Langoliers" idea give me an idea for a story for a universal theory
TheEleventhIndian 1 year ago
Who believes I cam become the next Kubrick,because I know I have potential and I haven't even started film school.
lrcdert2010 1 year ago
No one honey. . .No one
partysoco 1 year ago
@lrcdert2010 dont think anyone can become the next kubrick mate, film school or no film school.
filmgeek22 1 year ago
@filmgeek22 - anyone can become the next Kubrick, just please people, try harder...
xyster7 1 year ago
I don't know if it's because I read the novel before I saw the movie, but "2001: A Space Odyssey" never confused me. I seriously don't get Clarke's comment about how the movie is supposed to raise more questions than it answers. It seems pretty straight forward to me: some sort of alien device is helping humans evolve so they can eventually travel to outer space and reach enlightenment.
krumovies26 1 year ago
@krumovies26 What's interesting with the movie is not the alien plot, which is pretty basic, but the hundreds of symbols that can be found throughout the film and reveal several hidden metaphorical narratives, which contain drastically different subliminal messages, very often unrelated to the alien plot. I suggest you go to the website collativelearning . com, it has a very well researched in-depth analaysis of the film that will help make you realize the true potential of that masterpiece.
Saruman38 1 year ago
Stanley Kubrick <3
ManlySlut 1 year ago
Now, i'd rather get a monolith in my bedroom than a tv, just for the epicness of when I die.
ACDCJCUSMC 1 year ago 3
A masterpiece. I think at this point it was unquestionable that cinema is art.
captainpanic08 1 year ago
Impressionnant. Quel cinéma!
TravoltaNewtonJohn 1 year ago
EEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPPPIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MrBeatleboy96 1 year ago
There is a way to make the wonderful film even more thought provoking.
Read Arthur Clarke's book.
Clarke explains his & Kubrick's vision, and it looses NON of it's breath taking awe.
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If possible read Clarke's "CHILDHOODS END"
it's about the next step in our evolution, & I think more of the overall inspiration for '2001' than the short story "THE SENTINEL" was.
lifeseeker1 1 year ago
because all of this is perfectly understandable........
Mrlutsfer 1 year ago
LSD is one hell of a drug.
overusedwords 1 year ago 2
Interesting to see the interview( on the special edition of the film..) of the actor who plays Dave Bowman is as old now as he was shown in the film (eating dinner..) 2001..
davisgreen2020 1 year ago
the eureka moment that lets dave become the starchild is the wine glass breaking
leothegreat3 1 year ago
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hameed 1 year ago
One of the greatest things about this scene is probably the music. I love how it builds up and then ends like it's announcing something incredibly monumental while showing Dave becoming the most highly evolved being imaginable. I really wish there were more movies like this film. It truly establishes movies as a form of art.
alienisuntverus 1 year ago
I know the secret of the Universe lay within this film.
herrwest 1 year ago
I think the beauty of this scene and the movie as a whole is that it is puzzling and could be interpreted in many ways. Dont be frustrated if you dont "get it", in my opinion the only thing we should understand from this movie is that time and space cannont be understood
bombtom512 1 year ago
I saw this for the very first time when I was home with a fever.
littlecavallino 1 year ago
very deep
alnilam66 1 year ago
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What a masterpiece. I saw this when I was 8, my mother took me to see it. I just went "woah" and became an instant Strauss fan.
neocoders 1 year ago
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neocoders 1 year ago
Bowman has just terrible taste in interior decoration.
neocoders 1 year ago
When I first saw the movie, I was creeped out by the baby. Now that I understand the whole movie, he seems kinda cute :P
chris4268 1 year ago
i didnt understand the end of the film...why did he found an old man eating his dinner?!
JohnDefy 1 year ago
@JohnDefy the oldman eating his dinner and the old man dying in the bed was Daves older selves , then after the death of the very older self , we see dave reborn as the Star Child , a supernatural being with the ability to travel through space and alternate dimensions.
romas1995 1 year ago 3
@romas1995 thank you:-)
JohnDefy 1 year ago
fuckin difficult film ever saw
Aerosmissive 1 year ago
do i have to watch the whole thing to get the baby and earth scene
remydog21 1 year ago
@remydog21 go watch little gay boy edwart sucking jacob's dick !
romas1995 1 year ago
@romas1995 dude this movie is to great to have kids that watch that crap like you commenting on it
remydog21 1 year ago
Re @WhatsCheeze
Yep.
bescheidenheit1 1 year ago
This is so incredible!
xMyReflection 1 year ago
This is Kubrick and Clarke's concept The Starchild. It's Bowman perfected; as he has passed through 'Beyond the Infinite'. I should know: I spoke with Stanley last month at our weekly seance. Der Fuehrer confirmed that this was the fulfillment of his ideal Uebermenschkind. Notice the perfect Aryan features. But I'm seriously. No one before or since has mastered the art of meaning through imagery the way Kubrick did. Decades before advanced CGI, he captured something timeless and beyond words.
bescheidenheit1 1 year ago
Timeless
mikeengelen 1 year ago
im sorry.....wat?
seanogcarey 1 year ago
love the shot where the camera tracks in towards the monolith...
therealdjcammONUTUBE 1 year ago
I still dont get the fetus baby bit X_X
WhatsCheeze 1 year ago
@WhatsCheeze its supposed to be the rebirth of a human, questioning our afterlives
Wheatwill 1 year ago
@WhatsCheeze
the baby is the next setp in mankind's evolution.
ottol808 1 year ago 3
can someone explain me the ending?
Aerodynamic14 1 year ago
I Just got done watching 2001 A space Odyssey like a long time ago and it is a great movie 5 star.
twocooljoe87 1 year ago